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This is SUPERMAN!

Hey folks, Harry here - I can not fucking wait to see the rest of this shot. I'm dying to see more of this film. I want more of this movie. I want weekly production diaries, I want new pics weekly. I'm a Superman super freak. Here ya go...






Mr. Headgeek sir!

I saw this picture from the new Premiere magazine, and for the first time since the footage at comic con I didn't see Brandon Routh. I saw Superman. Not just Superman though, Superman holding the freakin' Daily Planet globe over his head.

June 30th can't come fast enough.

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  • Dec. 23, 2005, 3:04 a.m. CST

    sweet

    by jasher78

    that looks great. first shot i've seen that i've genuinely loved.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 3:05 a.m. CST

    He looks sexy

    by one-with-gun

    I like a man in red tights.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 3:05 a.m. CST

    He's got a stiffy!!

    by The True Priapic

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 3:06 a.m. CST

    Outside of the taxi, this almost looks like B&W shot from the 50

    by Alonzo Mosely

    Which could be a good or a bad thing...

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 3:07 a.m. CST

    Meah...

    by Drworm2002

    It looks ok...not great...just ok

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 3:11 a.m. CST

    metropolis must be destroyed

    by whatyoufear

    metropolis isn't beyond saving

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 3:19 a.m. CST

    Lookin' fresh yo!

    by Fugazi32

    I'm looking foward to this film.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 3:21 a.m. CST

    sweet

    by BALTIMOREJACK

    simply...fucking...sublime. and yes, whatyoufear, here come all the tools with their gay jokes. who cares? they are all gonna see it anyway. i personally can't wait til june.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 3:28 a.m. CST

    I don't care how cool the pic may be, if it ain't Tom We

    by Shermdawg

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 3:28 a.m. CST

    i'm there

    by whatyoufear

    i wasn't thrilled at first about the idea of a new superman but batman begins changed my "faith in DC" tune- speaking of which, where is moviemack? this movie is entirely too blue!

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 3:30 a.m. CST

    shermdawg

    by whatyoufear

    you can get your tom-welling-on-the-big-screen-fix RIGHT THIS SECOND: it's called "stinker by the dozen 2"!!

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 3:31 a.m. CST

    This movie looks so straight

    by andrew coleman

    Seriously only guys who were hiding the fact they are gay would say this looks gay. Why is it so scary for people for him to be wearing tights, are you afraid your eyes will slip to the bulge? Are you gay for looking at King Kong? He's naked and running around New York a lot worse than a guy in tights flying around Metropolis.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 3:41 a.m. CST

    Cue the REAL Superman fans' responses...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...the know, the ones where they say how THEIR take on a guy in blue tights with underwear on the outside, red boots, and a cape isn't at all gay in any way. Face it, folks -- you either leave such foolish cultural filters at home or you concede to the idea that there is NO such thing as a non-gay Superman. Up, up, and away, bitches.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 3:46 a.m. CST

    i hope brian singer doesnt focus on the comedic-romance aspects

    by Spacesheik

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 3:53 a.m. CST

    Hmmm...

    by Johnny Wishbone

    I've never liked Superman, always thought he was the lamest superhero in comic book land. That said, I hope this film works because we've had a lot of cruddy superhero flick lately. Oh yeah, and he looks gay. Ha ha...

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 4:21 a.m. CST

    TOM WELLING would make a horrible SUPERMAN!

    by Darth Bono Jr.

    He always has that dopey smile, and he comes from the "aw, shucks" school of acting. He can't convincingly convey ANY real emotion. I mean, in the course of the SMALLVILLE series, this kid has been discovering that he is not human...and yet he takes it all in with the non-emoting intensity of a FELICITY episode! I understand WHY they cast him for the role--the WB wants teen-idol types in their shows. But on the big screen he would just be a snore!

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 4:28 a.m. CST

    Tom Welling can't act

    by judderman

    Smallville is only worth watching when the writers get their acts together, which only happens about four times a year. Besides, he's said on numerous occasions that he wouldn't touch that costume with a bargepole, and never wanted to become Superman.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 4:29 a.m. CST

    hope away, Spaceshiek

    by half vader

    This is Bryan Singer, remember. Although you may get your action courtesy of the second unit director. Although there are a few action sequences, SInger does keep saying it's a love story.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 4:40 a.m. CST

    GO SILVER-AGE SUPERMAN! GO!

    by LordEnigma

    Look, as a person who has thrown down with the Smallville debate towards this movie more than once. I have come to this conclusion; Tom Welling represents MODERN-AGE Supes and Brandon Routh represents SILVER-AGE Supes. They are two different versions of Supes, but not the dicky Earth-2 Supes. No need to compare the two because they are from two different times, sort, kind, yeah.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 4:41 a.m. CST

    Why, it's Brandon Routh.

    by SalvatoreGravano

    Unfortunately, that costume still looks like something from a "sew it yourself" shop. But at least the saturation is better than in the first few photos... or so it seems.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 4:44 a.m. CST

    A very special Felicity with Tom Welling

    by half vader

    That's such an appropriate link, Darth Bono! I know it's all very subjective, but Welling puts me to sleep almost as much as David Boringanaz from Angel. Possibly the most boring boring boring guy on the face of the planet. Did I mention I thought he was boring?

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 4:44 a.m. CST

    Superplasticman?

    by indivisibleman

    Has anyone else noticed that the images in the trailer and the stills that have been released so far have a very cheap, contrasty and muddy look? The flesh tones are very unnatural and plastic looking. Superman Returns was shot with the new Panavision digital camera. I'm a proponent of digital cinema, but there's something very unflattering and cheap-looking about this imagery that is not right for the subject matter. Hopefully the finished product will be much improved.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 4:49 a.m. CST

    But he did sew it himself

    by board shitlez

    or his mum did. For 10 points. who says this (or words to the effect): "This one you won't believe Clark. My greatest trick..."

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 4:51 a.m. CST

    But he did sew it himself

    by board shitlez

    or his mum did. For 10 points. who says this (or words to the effect): "This one you won't believe Clark. My greatest trick..."

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 5:14 a.m. CST

    sheesh

    by ILK

    Could you guys get any more wrong about Tom Welling? Seriously, everyone is way too harsh on his acting skills. He does fine, pretty damned good even. I want to be wrong, but I think it was a mistake NOT casting him for supes returns.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 5:15 a.m. CST

    Not quite as bad as beast, but close

    by ChorleyFM

    And Welling would have been even worse.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 5:19 a.m. CST

    Whats with that "Blue Steel" look on his face?

    by Mr. Profit

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 5:28 a.m. CST

    Too skinny, too aquiline

    by DrManhattansUnit

    and Welling looks 15. I wonder if there's an actor alive who could convincingly play Superman. Wait 10 years and it will all be done with computers.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 5:42 a.m. CST

    pic is cool still don't like the movie premise

    by Aves

    I just can't get over this being a "sequel" to Superman 2. Supes leaves for five years and comes back looking ten years younger, and hey Lois reverted back in time as well. Also I know this has been beat into the ground but Superman told the president at the end of 2 that he would never let him down again. "I know I told you I'd never let you down again Mr. President but I had to go into space for five years, what's that, oh yea you're not the last guy, sorry I have been gone for five years, so um do you have that guy's number? Never mind I'll just track him down with my X-ray vision. I really wish they would have restarted the franchise like they did with Batman. That was a great movie, I'll be surprised if this is even good.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 5:57 a.m. CST

    Tom Welling SUCKS!!!

    by zillabeast

    He ain't no Superman!

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 5:58 a.m. CST

    WELLING IS SUPERMAN! DON'T DENY IT! HE'S THE BOMB! JUST

    by Shermdawg

    Plus, Welling wouldn't use a whole fucking can of Aquanet, just to get that stupid gawd damn curl Routh is sportin. And while we are on the subject, Welling would have made a kick ass Anakin.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 6:02 a.m. CST

    MICHAEL ROSENBAUM IS LEX LUTHOR! DON'T DENY IT! HE'S THE

    by Shermdawg

    Plus, Rosenbaum wouldn't use a whole fucking can of shaving cream to shave his gawd damn head like Kevin Spacey. And while we are on the subject, Rosenbaum would have made a kick ass Cyclops.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 6:05 a.m. CST

    ERICA DURANCE IS NOT LOIS LANE! DON'T DENY IT! SHE SUCKS! JU

    by Shermdawg

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 6:09 a.m. CST

    KRISTIN KREUK IS HOT! DON'T DENY IT! SHES SMOKIN! JUST WAIT,

    by Shermdawg

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 6:20 a.m. CST

    Forget Kong, this is the only film I've been antisipating in

    by BendersShinyAss

    It's such a sub standard and boring photograph. Sincerely hope that it's not an official shot, but more of a pic that someone got hold of. It looks like SUPERBOY. I'm not sure this has been cast very well. And Tom Welling IS NOT THE MAN OF STEEL. He's the teenage Clark Kent. That is all. Damit, My body is buffer than Superman's!! Just got this little pot belly issue. hehe. pot.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 6:22 a.m. CST

    that is a nice dog

    by kuryakin

    Krypto I mean, not Erica Durance. As far as the picture goes - a not-very-colourful picture of a guy dressed as Superman.Underwhelming. Mr Profit - good call on the "Blue Steel" thing - my guess is we'll be seeing a lot of that look from Mr Routh

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 6:23 a.m. CST

    anyone see the dvd extra's?

    by BendersShinyAss

    Margot kidder talking about the producers "He either has a very big one, or nothing" I see they went with the nothing this time out. pussies.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 6:25 a.m. CST

    JOHN SCHNEIDER IS BO DUKE! DON'T DENY IT! HE'S THE BOMB!

    by Shermdawg

  • Exactly what I thought, and definitely a good thing. As for being too slim, he's got a better physique than Chris Reeves had in the first movie. Anyway, as a baby he picked up a car- Superman's strong whether he's musclebound or not. I think this film is looking really good.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 6:26 a.m. CST

    UP"

    by Shermdawg

    Wow, now we know just how much we can put in the subject!

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 6:29 a.m. CST

    Oh, and re: board shitlez

    by Lone Fox

    Bruce Wayne, right?

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 6:29 a.m. CST

    I also would like to see Supes fight someone other than Lex for

    by Shermdawg

    And no, Nuclear Man, and Robert Vaughn doesn't count.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 6:32 a.m. CST

    If Welling never gets to be Supes, Rock should get a crack at it

    by Shermdawg

    ROCK IS SUPERMAN! DON'T DENY IT!...I think you know the rest by now. :P

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 6:41 a.m. CST

    Wierd

    by Aves

    Is it just me or from that side view does Routh look like Chris Noth from Law and Order?

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 6:44 a.m. CST

    looking good!

    by jrbarker

    I likey

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 6:48 a.m. CST

    See, John Williams thought I was right also! Sing this to his cl

    by Shermdawg

    Tom Welling is SU-PER-MAN. Tom Welling is SUPERMAN! Tom Welling is SU-PER-MAN. SUPEMAN, SUPERMAN, SUPER-MAN! I rest my case.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 6:52 a.m. CST

    Shermdawg you are one wierd dude.

    by Aves

    but I love your posts, freaking hilarious.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 6:57 a.m. CST

    Why does every Metropolis extra or regular dress like preppies ?

    by Monkey_King

    At least there are no street scum with hoodies and baggy pants hanging halfway off their asses and selling rocks or more on the corners or in front of stores in Metropolis. I guess everyone in Metropolis shops at J. Crew or Abercrombe.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 7:14 a.m. CST

    by BigDogg

    the new issue of Wizard magazine that came out this week at comic shops has this movie on the cover and has 28 pages of coverage for it. I'm kinda iffy on certain aspects of the movie though (especially Lois being a single mom) but with his work on the X-Men franchise, I'm willing to give Brian Singer the benefit of the doubt and try to go into this with an open mind even though I'm a major Superman geek and have been reading the comics for over half my life.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 7:26 a.m. CST

    Is it just me - or does he look like Kirk Alyn ?

    by RobinP

    That's the best shot I've seen so far. The cape, boots & trunks seem to be the right color. That profile makes him look a bit like Kirk Alyn, which would probably work in his favor. In all the previous shots, he's looked like Superboy.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 7:49 a.m. CST

    Awesome.

    by Evil Chicken

    Nuff said.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 7:55 a.m. CST

    STFU SHERMDOG

    by Krangelus

    ur like insane.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 7:56 a.m. CST

    Would someone get Shermdawg a fucking sedative...

    by Uncooked_Meat

    ... he seems to have snapped his leash today. Anyway, pic looks cool. I like that much like Reeve in the original, he isn't super cut and muscular in the suit. And all the pics, etc, I've seen of Spacey look awesome, so I'm still verrry excited. I have faith in Singer. DC seems to be making a comeback, for which I am grateful.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 7:58 a.m. CST

    That "S" on his belt keeps drawing my attention to his crotch!

    by Rolling_Stone

    Not where I want to keep looking.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 7:58 a.m. CST

    Daily News

    by blessedsloth

    Did anyone else catch that article in the NY Daily News (or possibly the Post) which said studio execs who had screed some of the flick were absolutely stunned by the enormous size of Brandon Routh's... ahem... package, and have asked that it be digitally shrunk down so as not to make audiences uncomfortable. It was in the paper, can anyone confirm it?

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 8:13 a.m. CST

    Bulge...

    by Rcamacho2278

    PBS had this show for kids where it involved a magical playhouse and these weird people dressed as toys doing ballet. Well the toy soldier always had this huge bulge, I mean that thing could hurt people, and I always said, Damn honey, little kids are gonna be like "mom, whats that?!?!" So eventually they toned down the bulge, which makes me wonder, how they do that??

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 8:13 a.m. CST

    Superman's bulge worries movie bosses

    by jrbarker

    http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_1644219.html?menu=news.quirkies Check that article. Funny.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 8:40 a.m. CST

    I like the retro look...

    by EyeofPolyphemus

    ...but I think the "S" logo ought to be bigger.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 8:43 a.m. CST

    hmmmmm.....

    by CrimsonGhost

    he just doesn't look Super enough. Supes should be a big man - over 6 feet tall and with the muscles and whanot. You know, like Chris Reeves was. This Superman looks to be maybe 5'8" and not very built. Disappointing.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 8:46 a.m. CST

    They tone down the bulge...

    by Childe Roland

    ...by showing the actor that Paris Hilton sex tape. There are few thigs in the world unsexier than that. This guy looks all right as Supes. I bought into him as Clark right away, but had reservations about him in the suit doing super things. This takes care of that nicely.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 8:56 a.m. CST

    I think the "bulge" story was planted,

    by cookylamoo

    Either by a press agent or by Tom Cruise.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 8:56 a.m. CST

    That's Thuper

    by Hate_Speech

    Big Gay Al is already camped out in line for hte 1st showing.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 9:04 a.m. CST

    Did everyone see the same Donner Superman film as me?

    by Bass Ackwards

    I understand the complaint that Supes needs to look like a bodybuilder, I don't at all agree with it (cause comics are silly in the physicality of just about everyone), but I get it. But I never get it when people start going on about how buff Reeve was, I mean, really? I dug Reeve as Supes don't get me wrong, and he was in great shape, but muscular? No, not really. I think he may have had a bigger frame than Routh, but I actually don't see a terrible lot of difference between them muscle wise (well maybe a lil, look at that pic, Reeve never had lats like that). Routh is 6'4" btw, same height as Reeve.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 9:06 a.m. CST

    Bryan Singer is gay

    by Kentucky Colonel

    And really, that's OK as long as he keeps pumpin' out killer movies. I hope he finds his own personal Super-Man. As for myself, I'm a pussy-eating cunt-basher from waaaaayyyy back. But I can't make a film for shit.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 9:16 a.m. CST

    Off Subject Observation....

    by Kentucky Colonel

    Just looking at my Burger King bag my breakfast biscuit came in (not proud, but true) and at the bottom is the Universal Picture logo. It looks strikingly like the logo worn by the ISS Enterprise crew in the "Mirror" universe (TOS). Now back to my biscuit...

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 9:19 a.m. CST

    Where's Krypto ?

    by ProfHeff

    ...just askin'......

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 9:27 a.m. CST

    GLENN_THE_TOOL, I'm fairly certain Shermdawg was kidding...

    by Uncooked_Meat

    ... so relax. Though I agree with you (and others) about Routh not needing to look all muscle-bound. That's a comic book concept that will not (and should not) make it's way onto the screen. For God's sake, the suit is gay enough, any more musculature and it'll look like a Miami nightclub act.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 9:33 a.m. CST

    Action Comics #1

    by blessedsloth

    Anyone other than me notice a resemblence between the Supes pic above and the first glimpse the world ever got of him, tossing that car on the cover on Action Comics #1? Kudos to Singer, I think he may be on the right track.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 9:34 a.m. CST

    Action Comics #1

    by blessedsloth

    here's the pic: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fe/Action1.JPG/180px-Action1.JPG

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 9:37 a.m. CST

    I've thought the images have been OK so far, but now I'm

    by FluffyUnbound

    Is it just the angle of the photo? How tall is Routh in real life? It would suck if the film turned into SuperLittleMan [Syndrome].

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 9:38 a.m. CST

    Enough with Welling

    by NeoAngelus

    That is a great image. -n/a

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 9:39 a.m. CST

    I really hate to say it because I hate the premise of this movie

    by the maven

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 9:42 a.m. CST

    The problem with the guy from Smallville playing the role...

    by Citizen Arcane

    ...is that Smallville is a fucked up, Dawson's Creek meets X-Files take on the Superman myth and wouldn't stand up to the scrutiny that a feature film would endure. As for this film itself, well, Brokeback Mountain broke a lot of ground in gay filmmaking so these kids might just make it.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 9:48 a.m. CST

    What the hell is up with his hands?!

    by theoneofblood

    He looks like Super-Gumby.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 9:54 a.m. CST

    Looks cheesy. I was down with Routh as Supes, but after seeing h

    by The Founder

    We don't always get what we want. This movie looks hokey.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 9:55 a.m. CST

    I know we should reserve judgement until the film hits, but noth

    by The Founder

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 9:57 a.m. CST

    RobinP good call!

    by Blue_Demon

    There was something deja vu about this picture for me and I couldn't place it. But there it is. Kirk Alyn from the original serials. Not a bad thing too. I love Superman and the trailer in the theater was great with the music by John Williams and narration by Marlon "Jor-El" Brando. My only complaint ( I know, it's nit picking but dammit, it BUGS me! ) is that smallish "S" on his chest. I don't mind that it's a plate, I just wish it was a little bigger. I have faith in Singer though. I bet this movie will be awesome.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 10:04 a.m. CST

    God, I HATE that costume...

    by JohnAdcox

    The boots are too low. The emblem too small. The belt buckle? Please. The neckline is wrong, although I admit that looks better than I thought it would. Sadly, this is enough of a mess to make me want to pass on seeing this, thanks. Sigh. I'm a huge Superman fan, too.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 10:05 a.m. CST

    I actually WAS serious about The Rock,

    by Shermdawg

    and Welling still rules. While we're at it, Denis Leary as the next Joker, Josh Holloway as Solid Snake, and the "Bug Boy" from the second episode of Smallville to replace Bale as Batman, if he ever leave. And Glenn, your name suits you.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 10:14 a.m. CST

    And Smallville is flawed, but a great launching pad for a kickas

    by Shermdawg

    You know you secretly love it, but won't admit it, because your fellow geeks will make fun of you, when in fact they also watch it. Go drink yer haterade you haters!!!!

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 10:15 a.m. CST

    Brokeback Mountain is looking better and better with every new p

    by TheBaxter

    just one question, is that Ennis or Jack Twist in the pic?

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 10:20 a.m. CST

    I dunno, i'm still not into this guy playing superman. He lo

    by Orionsangels

    The other superman's by that I mean anyone before superman in the 90s, look like a man. This guy doesn't even look tall and he has a boyish face, get some more definition in the face kid and maybe you'll grow into superman.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 10:32 a.m. CST

    That's supposedly the Daily Planet globe he's holding up

    by IAmJack'sUserID

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 10:33 a.m. CST

    It Was His Voice That Sold Me

    by Sean38

    They say that 80% of video is audio and that being the case, go back and watch the clip where you get to hear Brandon Routh speak. He may LOOK like Superboy, but he SOUNDS like Superman. I think that's going to go a long way toward selling it.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 10:34 a.m. CST

    This movie will rock!!

    by Wormie

    Obviously, Tom Welling wouldn't want to play Clark as Superman - appearing in the Cheaper by the Dozen movies is clearly a much smarter career move :-) A bit like Sarah Michelle Gellar's reluctance to play Buffy again while starring in those super-acclaimed Scooby-Doo epics. Brandon Routh certainly looks like Superman - don't deny it. I'd have liked Erica Durrance as Lois in the movie though.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 10:39 a.m. CST

    Somebody saaaaaave me...(sing with me people, you know ya wanna!

    by Shermdawg

    let your warm hands break right through, Somebody saaaaaave me, don't care how you do it, just stay, stay, c'mon, I've waiting for you to (stay with me-e) I made this whole world shine for you, just stay, stay, c'mon.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 10:43 a.m. CST

    Besides Smallville being really cheesy, even for a Superman film

    by Citizen Arcane

    Bryan Singer likes his boys young. I hope this movie does well, considering what Routh must have had to do to star in it.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 10:59 a.m. CST

    Superman?

    by wessmith1966

    Is it just me, or does that pose, where he's obviously doing something "Supermanish," just not look impressive? He doesn't look imposing, like he could punch a whole in the moon. As Superman, Christopher Reeve had a kind of quite power about him (remember when he morphed into Superman through body posture in Superman II during the scene in the hotel room?). Brandon just looks like an underwear model. I will see this movie, and will probably still love seeing big blue on the big screen, but so far nothing I've seen has excited me all that much.

  • The movie looks too stylistic, every damn thing in this film looks shiny ass hell, like stainless steel. It looks like the fake sets are going to fall down and kill someone. Thanks Singer, for screwing the pooch on X-Men, now Superman and soon Star Trek. Someone get this guy away from SciFi/Fantasy films...he reeks of ass!

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 11:36 a.m. CST

    Brokeback Krypton

    by Rant Breath

    Watch Superman's secret identity become an allegory for gays in the closet. Singer turns every superhero movie into a gay pride parade. When Singer has a tent-pole release it's literal.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 12:05 p.m. CST

    So he caught a grand piano that was dropped out of a window?

    by Regis Travolta

    He's going to throw that piano a mile and a half easy! But who dropped the piano?

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 12:07 p.m. CST

    Supes continuity and Brett Ratner as Wolverine

    by oisin5199

    If you want to laugh, check out Ratner's X-Men3 Christmas card: http://tinyurl.com/8vczo Interestingly, he seems to be more like the comics Wolverine's build than Hugh. Anyway, for people who have continuity issues with this this whole 'sequel' thing, you can't take it literally as a sequel. Think of it as a comic book. When comic books continue stories, it might be years later and the characters don't age or get younger! I mean, wasn't Kitty Pryde 13 for 20 years? And there's different artists that change the look all the time, so it's like a different actor playing the role. A note on Welling: I think he's quite a good actor for the show, but that's the show. Different universe. He probably wouldn't have the gravitas (yes, I said it) for the full on Supes, but we'll never know. Let it go. And I don't mean to diss your 'wife,' Shermdawg, but Lana (the character)needs to die now! I've never gotten the appeal with her. I loved that Clark was with Chloe in that Lex fantasy sequence. They belong together. Supes on!

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 12:07 p.m. CST

    Tom fucking Welling.

    by TequilaMocking

    He's one of the worst actors working today. Did anyone see The Fog? Have you ever watched one episode of Smallville? Why are big TV fans such out-of-the-loop-motherfuckers when it comes to the talent of their favorite lead actor/actress. There's a huge pile of internet geeks that think David Boreanez, Welling, and a league of other mildly competent TV only actors are worthy of the big screen. If Warner Bros. put this half assed douchebag at the front of a 200+ million dollar movie they'd be the laughing stock of the industry.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 12:11 p.m. CST

    and Rant Breath, you're a dumbass

    by oisin5199

    every superhero movie, all of two that you've seen so far? If there was a gay pride parade in the X-Men films I must have missed it. Sure, the metaphor's a possible interpretation, but that was already in the comics and Singer didn't 'turn it into' an allegory. I swear to God, if people didn't know Singer was gay, they'd never make the stupid comments they do about the supposed 'gay' elements of his films.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 12:27 p.m. CST

    Uhm, no he isn't.

    by lynxpro

    Tom Welling is Superman. This movie will not get my $9.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 12:30 p.m. CST

    Routh better be able to act, otherwise it's a real dumb cast

    by performingmonkey

    You never doubted Superman's strength and powers with Reeve playing him. But now he's a pussy model in a suit that actually looks dumber than the suit from 30 years ago. Also, the shot looks CG'd up on the suit. They should have done Supes as a 100% CG character based on Reeve.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 12:35 p.m. CST

    I like how no one pays attention that Welling didn't want to

    by Bass Ackwards

    The guy has said he doesn't want to do it, he's also said he's not even a big fan of the comic, he barely even wanted to do Smallville (he turned the role down a few times before finally saying yes). I imagine Smallville's only interest to him is that he's not really playing the comic character. Welling simply isn't a fan of Superman and has no interest in character or role, no amount of hoping or complaining is gonna change that.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 12:43 p.m. CST

    WHAT ABOUT JAMES MARSTERS..AKA..BRANIAC

    by zathras34

    This would be so cool if they gave hime a very short cameo...as braniac (or the proffesor fine)..just to say he's made it to the big screen...now where's the slayer....lol

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 12:50 p.m. CST

    It looks...fake

    by quentintarantado

    It looks like a previsualition. Or a photo with some Photoshop touch-up. I read that the cape is animated like a marionette sometimes or even done completely in CG. Maybe this is one of those photos? Also I think the reason why he looks effeminate in this shot is his posture, though it kind of makes sense when you're carrying something heavy and bulky yet you don't want to damage it (assuming that is the Daily Planet globe).

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 1:25 p.m. CST

    Why they didn't use Tom Welling

    by Bryan

    Little known fact: Tom Welling is not Superman. He's some guy who plays him on a WB tv show for teens. Warner Brothers has spent many years trying to bring Superman back to the screen. I don't blame them for wanting it to be a huge event and not just a spinoff of some crappy tv show that apparently some people on the internet watch. Let's use myself as an example. I am excited to see a Superman movie. But I definitely would not watch a Smallville spinoff movie, probably not even on video. And I'm a nerd, so multiply that by ten for the normal non-nerds that they are probably hoping will pay money to watch their Superman movie. In other words, they are hoping for a cultural event like the first Batman movie rather than a comic book convention like, say, Serenity. (Sorry for bringing it up, I liked the movie a lot, but it's an appropriate example.)

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 1:52 p.m. CST

    I AM SPARTI... I mean... SUPERMAN!!!!

    by Johnno

    Pic is m'eh... Someone should give me a bazillion dollars and let me make a 'Kingdom Come' movie... after reading that everything else looks tame by comparison...

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 1:58 p.m. CST

    Welling didn't want the part?

    by TequilaMocking

    You're a GID. Geek in denial. A guy that took a two dollar paycheck to star in a movie (so bad Uve Boll can justifiably criticize it) would turn down Superman? What?! Do you think he's a fucking communist? Everyone likes money. That's why they call it money.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 1:59 p.m. CST

    Brokeback Superman

    by Hugh Jass

    This movie is going to suck. The continuity is screwed up - its a sequel to Superman 2, but everyone is younger, and we pretend that 3 and 4 never happened. The movie should have starred the Smallville cast as Clark transitions from Superboy to Superman. Routh looks like a model they put in the super suit but I dont believe him as Superman. Welling brings his character alive for me. He isn't just a pretty boy stuffed into a costume. I want the movie to be good but its going to suck like the Star Wars prequels. Maybe worse.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 2:07 p.m. CST

    I was hoping for much gayer.

    by Cabron

    Should've hired Schumacher.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 2:19 p.m. CST

    the bulge story was cooked up by the publicity dept

    by twitaman

    How can I be sure? Because I'm old enough to remember when the first Superman movie was being made and that SAME exact story about how the studio was fretting over the size of Superman's junk was floated. Almost word for word. It's like the publicity and marketing depts. just went through the archives and ripped off one of the old dumbass plant stories.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 2:26 p.m. CST

    God, half this talkback is retarded

    by Rindain

    Tom Welling would absolutely suck as Superman--he a crappy actor and way too effeminate. And this pic is great--almost like a living Alex Ross painting. You haters are just bitter Smallville fans.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 2:44 p.m. CST

    He looks short.

    by zekmoe

    I prefer the look of superman on justice league. Bigger than life.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 3:05 p.m. CST

    FUCK YEAH!!!

    by God-Man

    This movie is going to be awesome! NERDGASM

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 3:11 p.m. CST

    crappy actor, Rindain?

    by lynxpro

    Uhm, Routh was fired from a soap opera supposedly due to acting deficiencies. That's right, a soap opera, for poor acting. Soap opera. And with that in mind, you have the audacity to criticize the performance capabilities of Tom Welling?

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 3:16 p.m. CST

    To all you so-called Superman fans....

    by Shaz_bot80

    1. If you really love the Superman myth, he'd be in a pink tutu and you should still want to see it. 2. Tom Welling is too scrawny and represents Clark Kent in a different time period than what the filmmakers want. Anyhow this is a SUPERMAN movie and NOT A SMALLVILLE MOVIE! 3. The story line still sounds better than Superman 3 and 4 combined. 4. You put any man in a blue leotard and he will look gay. You goofy fan boys need to get a girlfriend, or pony up the money for a realdoll.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 3:18 p.m. CST

    Looks okay to me

    by Ribbons

    Classic superhero pose; Routh pulls it off nicely too. I'm starting to see where the complaints about the shield on his chest being too small make sense, though.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 3:18 p.m. CST

    The Suit

    by Surf Ninja

    Too bulky, man. The Cast Too young. Kevin Spacey Beyond The Sea was shit.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 3:21 p.m. CST

    trailer's been up a while.

    by holoholojoe

    at http://www.apple.com/trailer way more pics, a nice cool shot of the dude in space looking at earth. nice..

  • Bryan, if you wouldn

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 3:28 p.m. CST

    he looks way too young.

    by iamnicksaicnsn

    Still skeptical.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 3:29 p.m. CST

    EVERYBODY ALREADY KNOWS THE ORIGIN STORY

    by Voice O. Reason

    There's no reason to retell Sueprman's origin for the 10th time, especially when there's already a retelling of it airing weekly on TV every week. It'd not only just take time away from telling a new story, but it'd just be redundant.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 3:35 p.m. CST

    voice of reason is the voice of retardation

    by Rcamacho2278

    It's not an origin story like batman begins was. Much of what they show is flashback scenes. It's a continuing story line and pushes the stage set from superman 1 and 2 forward. YOU FOOL!

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 3:35 p.m. CST

    lynxpro...

    by Rindain

    I'm just sick and tired of all the Routh criticism from the Smallville fans--that's the main reason I lashed out at him as a crappy actor. I have never seen so much venom spewed toward a movie project as I have seen from the Welling fans towards this film. I've only seen a few episodes of the show, and Welling was alright, but he's definitely too young looking to be SuperMAN. Routh looks kind of young too, but not as young as Welling. Welling also just doesn't seem *right* as Clark/Superman--he just doesn't have the right presence/mannerisms--Reeve seemed right, and so far Routh does too. Singer saw something in Routh, and from the footage I saw at Comic-Con, Routh at the very least nailed Clark Kent. I just wish all the Smallville fans would accept that their precious Welling did not get cast as the movie version of Superman.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 3:37 p.m. CST

    Still looks like Superboy.

    by superninja

    I admit its not atrocious, but so what?

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 4:06 p.m. CST

    Welling too young?

    by HonestAbe

    I keep hearing people say that Welling would have been too young to play adult Clark/Superman. According to IMDB Welling=28 years old, Routh=26 years old. That said, I think Routh is too young. And skinny, but I have faith in Singer.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 4:25 p.m. CST

    Shermdawg, you are just too funny!

    by tjrmusic

    KRISTIN KREUK IS HOT! BUT YOU ARE NOT MARRYING HER! DON'T DENY IT! SHES SMOKIN! BUT JUST WAIT, IN ABOUT FIVE YEARS YOU'LL WAKE UP FROM THIS MAD DELUSION, AND BE SAYING "HOLY SHIT! THIS IS NOT MY BEAUTIFULL WIFE, THIS IS NOT MY BEAUTIFULL HOUSE...WELL..., HOW DID I GET HERE? (Cue the Talking Heads)

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 4:46 p.m. CST

    "Tom fucking Welling" *for whomever posted that*

    by nomad202

    TV actors can't act?! Tom Welling cant be superman cause he sucks at acting?!! Did you ever see a little movie called "Serenity"? Yea, its a movie that was based off of the "firefly" tv series and IT KICKED ASS. Sure the acting was a little choppy here and there but it still did REALLY good. Welling would be better off in Smallville (WB's #1 show might I add) and hopefully in the future Smallville made-for-tv superman movies. You can keep Singer's Panty-fied SUPERBOY.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 4:51 p.m. CST

    This pic reminds me of both the 30's and 60's superman

    by tjrmusic

    I still think the neckline is to high though...but it's a great shot. I didn't like the cosutme in Batman Begins, but the movie was great! I don't think that Bryan Singer has ever said that this is a direct sequel to Superman II. I beleive that he said that he is using the original Christopher Reeve's movies as a vague back history (Interpret that how you will). Welling has been great in the role of the Young Clark Kent. You can look at him and see the Man he will become. Smallville has had it's bad episodes but I have enjoyed the majority of the show but the best part has been watching the development (and Michael Rosenbaum's portrayal of said development) of Lex Luthor's character. Even really crappy episodes of Smallville have had their bright spots thanks to Lex's character moments. We wont know if this movie is good or bad untill we actually see it, but I'm certainly curious.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 5:03 p.m. CST

    nomad you are wrong wrong wrong

    by Rcamacho2278

    how dare you compare firefly to superman. How DARE you. First off the actors who were playing their characters in firefly played the very same characters in the movie. Tom welling hasn't been playing superman. He's been playing some goofy ass WB pretty boy with powers with little spits of superman legend thrown in. The writers have tried giving tom welling certain scenes like when his girlfriend died and he screamed NOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooo like reeve did in superman 1 and it fell FLAT. Tom welling hasn't played the confident superman, he's not even playing clark kent. He's playing a kid. so gimme a break with that example.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 5:08 p.m. CST

    Captain Marvel would cream that pansy!

    by Daredevil

    Just sayin'it like it is. Logically speaking: CM=Earth's Mightiest Mortal. SM=Mortal. Thus CM=mighter than SM. Don't be bringing up any weak arguments like, "But Superman's not FROM Earth!" He's been adopted by Earth. He was on Earth when Cap was created. Thus, when Cap is called Earth's Mightiest Mortal...they was includin' Superman too. Besides, that's one wimpy-looking Superman. Superman's supposed to be beefy and brawny. Think Brad Johnson or Patrick Warburton. Not skinny as Spider-Man. But don't read this post like I'm not going to be right there watching this movie opening night like everyone else. I'll just know Captain Marvel woulda done it better.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 5:19 p.m. CST

    superman was never beefy, that was the cartoons

    by Rcamacho2278

    When superman was asked his weight in superman 1, he was less than 240 pounds. Superman didnt have to be beefy and strong, it was his kryptonian blood that flowed through his veins heated up by our sun that made him invulnerable. the only man who can beat superman is jesus

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 5:24 p.m. CST

    Harry Potter is built better! Pee Wee, too!

    by Tony Crawley

    Aw c'mon Harry, put ya glasses on. This isn't Superman, this is Superboy. Look at those spindly arms. If he's lifting a car, shouldn't there be some visible muscle defintion. Or is that gonna be CGI?

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 5:38 p.m. CST

    Captain Whitebread has already beat the tar out of Supes on occa

    by Negative Man

    But, as true geeks know, Supes is vulnerable to magic and the Big Red Cheese's powers are magig based. So that even adds more to how Cap can bury Supes in a slugfest. I'm looking forward to a Captain Marvel movie someday... Would be big screen Saturday matinee fun if done right.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 5:53 p.m. CST

    acting?

    by cybertrent

    I love how the haters piss all over Welling's supposed bad acting. As if an unknown soap opera-reject (ie, Routh) is a young Anthony Hopkins or something. By the way guys, Welling initially turned down the role of Clark because the producers wouldn't show him a script or even tell him which part he was being offered. All they told him was that it was a Superman project. He declined auditioning until they told him more about the show... and then he gleefully auditioned. As far as not wanting to do the Superman thing, I thought he was just being coy. If all you read is a quote, it may sound like he has no interest, but seeing him deny it on video, he's got a huge smile on his face and he's being all sarcastic. He would've gone for it if offered. Hell, when Ratner was trying to make the movie, he was talking to Welling almost nonstop. As for me, I admit I'm not dreading this movie as much as I once was, but it's still a sucky sequel to the mediocre Superman II. As someone else wrote, it's the Silver Age Superman up there, not the Modern Age... and the Silver Age comics sucked. But fanboys (and apparently Singer) can't be expected to think outside the box. Our loss.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 6:03 p.m. CST

    A REAL SUPERMAN SUPERFAN

    by liljuniorbrown

    I swear i'm in the fortress of solitude right now, well it's my fortress anyway.Really though, i am a HUGE Supes fan,anything with him on or about him i would watch.Welling's show is awesome and it has gotten better each year. Borenaz or how ever you spell Angels real name,the guy can act and so can Welling and one day they will get a chance to do something better than TV. As far as this movie is concerned,as long as BS concentrates more on Superman and less on Clark Kents romantic comedy delimma,it will be gold.The cast looks better than it sounded when first announced.I havn't seen the trailer yet...my computer is shit,but that day will be the greatest in my life.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 6:11 p.m. CST

    THE ONLY REASON WELLING SAID HE WOULDN'T DO A MOVIE IS BECAU

    by Shermdawg

    It's just like how Bronsnan was when speculation for a new Bond came up. If they wanted Welling, you can bet your ass he would do the shit in a heartbeat! And given the rising popularity of Smallville, that is a strong possibility. SMALLVILLE WILL OWN YOUR ASS, YOU FUCKING HATERS!!!!

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 6:14 p.m. CST

    SMALLVILLE WILL OWN YOUR ASS!!!

    by Shermdawg

    Sorry jesuschrist, but I'm claiming that line. Viva la Revolution!

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 7:43 p.m. CST

    This Is Stupid, Man

    by BlueMax

    C'mon, fools! There are actually people believing this is "cool?" He looks ridiculous. Expect another Fantastic 4 debacle. Anyway, Superman has already been done right... via Justice League and the animated series before it.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 11:30 p.m. CST

    Superboytoy to the rescue

    by Ricky Retardo

    "Look up in the sky! It's a turd! And, it's lame! It's Superskinnyman!" What's next? Pee Wee Herman as Hercules?

  • Dec. 24, 2005, 12:12 a.m. CST

    Simply awful

    by Ivan_Mtl

    There are several reasons why I am not excited about this upcoming Superman movie. 1) The casting is horrible. With the possible exception of Kevin Spacey, every character has been completely miscast in their roles - especially the lead (who simply does not have the proper body type for the character, and certainly not the charisma of Christopher Reeve... or even Tom Welling, for that matter.). 2) The story is lame. We have already seen Lex Luthor in three theatrical versions of Superman, so I think it's time to move on. Been there, done that. 3) The costume is distractingly horrible. The crest, the boots, the colours... they managed to get everything wrong. Why fix it if it ain't broke? 4) A director with a gay agenda. See Batman Forever and Batman and Robin. 5) Superman: The Animated Series. A pretty tough act to follow. 6) Include me among the many fans who are disappointed that Tom Welling did not make the leap to the big screen version of Superman. I mean, seriously... this guy had Christopher Reeve's endorsement - what better reference do you need? How about Margot Kidder? Annette O'Toole?

  • Dec. 24, 2005, 1:05 a.m. CST

    regularcalifragilisticexpialidocious not good enough for you?

    by Napoleon Park

    Superman beat Captain Marvel on JLU and Superduperman beat Captain Marbles in Mad Comix.***If this is a sequel to S2 where Supes bones Lois, then hits her with his Kryptonian Amnesia Kiss, and now Lois is an unwed mother, does that mean Supes is the deadbeat daddy? Who plays Superbaby? So if Luthor's in five and Brainiac's in six, who plays Mxyzptlk in seven? And really, who else is there, that purple assed Parasite? For a superhero who's been around for over 65 years, shouldn't Superman have more than three memorable arch enemies? If both franchises stick around a while, why would it be impossible to get Routh and Bale to do a World's Finest movie?

  • Dec. 24, 2005, 1:12 a.m. CST

    This is what Superman looks like for real.

    by Hexus

    Alex Ross understands the iconography of superheroes. His description in Mythology (A good book, BTW.) Paraphrased, "Powerful, but not like a bodybuilder." I think this piece is as close as you can get to a real life Superman. http://members.aye.net/~gharris/Grafix/superman-alex%20ross.jpg And he most certainly does NOT look gay. Even in tights.

  • Dec. 24, 2005, 1:38 a.m. CST

    Great link to history of the attempts to get a new S-man movie o

    by Gordon Bombay

    This link tells the 18 year history of trying to get a new Superman movie off the ground, very interesting reading. Also paints ole' Harry as a sellout to the studios. http://www.agonybooth.com/forum/topic2730.htm

  • Dec. 24, 2005, 1:42 a.m. CST

    Kind of puny looking but we'll see...

    by droids22

    Remember what body builders of the 60's looked like? That's what this physique reminds me of. Even Tobey looks better than this. I have not seen Brandon act as Superman or Clark Kent yet so there may still be hope. But as it is now he'd have to act his ass off to make us forget about the other things. I still don't think he's gonna have that Christopher Reeve magic but I will wait for the trailer before I make up my mind.

  • Dec. 24, 2005, 1:48 a.m. CST

    UUM

    by TEST_ME_BUB!!!

    Um, fill me in on the movies storyline please. Cause I've heard very little. I guess I missed soemthing.

  • Dec. 24, 2005, 2:10 a.m. CST

    wow the costume's colors finally look good

    by HavocZer0

    Down in an urban enviroment they look a lot brighter and more like the classic costume. Cool.

  • Dec. 24, 2005, 2:28 a.m. CST

    Uh, so?

    by the_pissboy1

    WTF, this is news? Still don't get the attraction of an all-powerful boy scout.

  • Dec. 24, 2005, 7:14 a.m. CST

    Storyline...They need to tell more

    by liljuniorbrown

    All they have released so far is Superman has been gone for a few years and the world has moved on without him,Clark Kent has been on "Assignment" in a foriegn country during this time.Superman comes back to find that the world might not really need him anymore,they are bitter for him leaving,and Lex Luthor has an evil plot.Lois has a kid and is dating Cylops or the second love intrest from "The Notebook". Like i said in the above post, all i want is an honest to God halfway serious Superman movie.Comical moments are ok but we need a real villan. I agree with who ever said Lex has been in four movies,lets move on.Everyone love Zod and his bad ass friends,but thats been done too.Superman has a huge gallery of villans,and all of them are dying to make it to the big screen.I would kiss Bryan Singers gay ass if he would break out Bizzaro ,Metallo,Braniac,Doomsday or even Intergang. I always thought the whole DarkSide bit was lame and a rip off of Star Wars,but other than that it would be too awesome for words to see the Man of Steel going toe to toe with a real hardcore Supervillan.Spacey as Luthor will be good, i wanted Malkovich,but he would rule as just about any super villan. The writers and even the director need to read websites like this,sit down and rewatch Superman 2, XMen ,Spiderman and Spiderman 2.Watch Superman and Batman the Animated series along with some Justice League and maybe even some pre Wonder Twins Superfriends, and talk to some damn fans.Singer can do this,but it has to be on the scale of what Peter Jackson did with LOTR.and what Rami did with Spiderman. I can't stress it enough,more supervillan battles,inner turmoil,but no comedy bull shit and or bad CGI,just good story telling with eye popping visuals.I no i did a long ass rant but I NEED THIS MOVIE TO WORK.

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  • Dec. 24, 2005, 9:12 a.m. CST

    liljuniorbrown... Star Wars "ripped off" New Gods

    by Ivan_Mtl

    We are in complete agreement about Superman needing to battle other villians. Bizarro, Metallo, and Braniac (a no-brainer) are great suggestions. You could probably throw in Mr. Mxyztplk, Toyman and Titano (although I think Peter Jackson's KING KONG may have been the last word on giant apes for a while). Then there is the ultimate DC Comics badass - DARKSEID. Incidentally, you should know that Jack "King" Kirby created him and the entire Fourth World mythos before Lucas' original Star Wars trilogy. In fact, there is a section in SKYWALKING (the George Lucas autobiography) where is former wife relates the story of how he was having difficulty writing the Star Wars screenplay, and finally when to a local convenience store and came back with an armful of comic books. He then proceeded to knock out the finished script. This was in the early 70's, so Kirby's books were on the newstands. A mystical quasi-religious energy called "The Source"... a hero (Orion, wielder of the "astroFORCE") who is unaware that his greatest villian is, in fact, his own father... the visual similarities between Apocolypse/Death Star, Highfather/Obi-wan, Desaad/Palpatine, etc. You can also draw comparisons between Darkseid's Parademons and the empire's Stormtroopers. There is also the connection between a New God and his Mother Box with that of a Jedi Knight and his lightsaber (the emphasis being that being able to build one is a sign of mastery of the Source/Force). Anyway, Lucas certainly did draw from other wells too (most notably Flash Gordon), and the end result was something truly original and special in its own way. Just remember though... the "King" was FIRST (and on this site, that holds special significance... lol).

  • Dec. 24, 2005, 9:47 a.m. CST

    OK, let's get this straight (so to speak)

    by the maven

    If a bunch of redneck bigoted homophobic mini minds can learn how to use a computer well enough to post on a website, why can't a guy who is gay put together a great movie that has nothing to do with homosexuality? Geez, since when is talent tied to sexuality? Nuff said.

  • Dec. 24, 2005, 10:27 a.m. CST

    Pic looks impressive. Face it. We're all going to see the

    by R.C. the "Wise"

    Jeremy Irons, Hugh Laurie, or Jason Issacs.

  • Dec. 24, 2005, 11:33 a.m. CST

    Superman

    by emeraldboy

    This is one franchise they need to remake for one reason. The effects in the old superman franchise look antiquated by what they can do now. I hate cgi as much as the next person. I saw the trailer again last week. on the big screen this movie looks amazing. I am really looking forward to this film. 2006 will be between Superman and the davinci code. no question.

  • Dec. 24, 2005, 11:40 a.m. CST

    Nice to see all the homophobes critiquing Routh's physique.

    by Barry Egan

  • Dec. 24, 2005, 11:48 a.m. CST

    Superman the second post

    by emeraldboy

    although I havent seen smallville in a while. when I do catch it, tom welling reminds me of a character in Zoolander. All he does in pout and look good in front of the camera. There is no way this guy caould carry off the goofiness needed to play adult Clark Kent. When I saw Brandon Routh as Clark Kent I immediately though of Christopher Revees, Tom Welling looks nothing like him. The whole trick about superman is that when he is Clark kent is he bumbling cub reporter. you would never believe that this man could ever rescue anyone but we know that he is really superman, Tom welling is not convincing enough.

  • Dec. 24, 2005, 11:56 a.m. CST

    My thoughts on this new Film: READ UP MOTHERFUCKERS! :)

    by LargoJr

    I have no basis to criticis Rouths acting ability, as I've not seen him do anything EVER. Christopher Reeves was FRIGHTFULLY skinny when he first got the part of Superman (his screen test was included in the special edition release). People can bulk up, its a simple matter of effort. My worries are with the costume, and how it translates into individual representation.*** The Chest Emblem, when it was/is silk-screened onto the suit, indicates identity, fate, a destiny he was born to. With it being changed to a raised/relief, it becomes a badge. It is reduced to an assumed rank, or accepted responsibility... a job or position. A position is granted, or asumed, and while for story sake can be abandoned... that's not what Superman is... Superman does what he does, because he CAN, because it's it's the RIGHT thing to do. Anything less becomes a sad and tarnished reduction of the ideal Superman is meant to represent.

  • Dec. 24, 2005, 11:59 a.m. CST

    My thoughts continued

    by LargoJr

    Tom Welling's teeth are fucked up.. and I HATE HIS GODAMN HAIR!!

  • Dec. 24, 2005, 12:14 p.m. CST

    I accept Routh... But he's not the best choice.

    by ZeroCorpse

    He looks OK... But so far I've never seen a SuperMAN that looks like Superman. The Ross paintings are exactly what I picture- A big, strong (though not necessarily toned) man with a lantern jaw, some age lines (he's over 30, not in his early 20s) and a stoic, strong look to his eyes and face. He needs to look like an AUTHORITY FIGURE, like a leader, like a real man, not a pretty-boy model with baby soft skin. He needs to look like he could give an order and you'd feel compelled to follow it, super powers or not.

  • Dec. 24, 2005, 12:39 p.m. CST

    most common complaints

    by drave117

    Let me see if I've got this straight. (Heh. Straight.) We've got people complaining that Routh doesn't look like enough of a rippling muscular Greek god. We've got people complaining about the fashion design of the costume. We've got people complaining that Tom Welling plays a much better Superman in Smallville. And we've got people complaining that the movie looks gay. Anybody else seeing the irony here? (For the record, I am heterosexual, I freaking love Smallville, but I freely admit that it is one of the most homoerotic shows that has ever been filmed, and I think Welling would make an awful adult Superman.)

  • Dec. 24, 2005, 12:43 p.m. CST

    Half Vader- you suck

    by Neaera

    How dare you compare The Boreanaz's acting to "that plank of wood in the corner" a.k.a Tom Welling. Boreanaz freaking ruled as Angelus in season 2 of Buffy, don't deny it. And he ruled for 5 years of Angel. Welling is the lead, but the BLATENTLY weakest link is SV, he has utterly emotionless eyes. and he's often annoying... Routh reminds me of John Barrowman, the dude in the last series of Doctor Who.

  • Dec. 24, 2005, 1:34 p.m. CST

    Just for the record...

    by Ivan_Mtl

    I don't recall Clark Kent ever being a "bumbling reporter" in any of the comic books. In fact, the only time he was portrayed as such was in the Richard Donner 70's Superman theatrical series. George Reeves' Clark Kent was much more in keeping with the comic book version and was frequently shown scooping Lois Lane on a news story. Dean Caine's version in LOIS AND CLARK played him as the ultimate yuppie. While Christopher Reeves did deliver the definite portrayal of Superman, his alter-ego was portaryed as a buffoon (more Lorenzo Semple Jr. than Mario Puzo). Also, you can try to be as politically correct as you like, but the fact is Brandon Routh does not look like SuperMAN. Chris Reeve looked the part because he was an Ectomorph that managed to pack on enough muscle to resemble a Neal Adams/Jose Garcia Lopez Superman. Routh is a Mesomorph and has a very "squat" muscled look which I suppose makes him look more like a Mike Sekowsky drawing (don't get me wrong, I love Sekowsky's art, but he was never considered a very good super-hero artist). His legs are too short and chubby, and his face is simply much too boyish. As someone once said on this board, I thought they were making Superman not Superboy. Despite what some of you may think of Tom Welling, he is absolutely perfect for the part. Christopher (Superman) Reeves thinks so... Margot (Lois Lane) Kidder thinks so... Annette (Lana Lang) O'Toole thinks so... Terence (General Zod) Stamp thinks so... and even Alex Ross seems to agree (see his magnificent paintings of Tom Welling as Superman which he did entirely on his own and without commission for Wizard magazine). http://www.alexrossart.com/rossreport/april2004/rossreport.html

  • Dec. 24, 2005, 1:44 p.m. CST

    I've been waiting for this movie for years and I'm glad

    by super Cucaracha

    ...but I think the Super Logo on his chest is too small. Cool picture though.

  • Dec. 24, 2005, 1:50 p.m. CST

    welling cant even steal a scene from steve martin

    by flamingrunt

    in cheaper by the dozen let alone carry the weight of a superman movie

  • Dec. 24, 2005, 1:57 p.m. CST

    Re: Ivan_Mtl

    by LargoJr

    Sorry... but you either never read a Silver Age Superman comic, or you simply don't know what you're talking about. Kal-El's "Clark" alter-ego was a CONSTANT target of pranks and nonsence, which Clark willingly allowed himself to subjected to, to help build his personality while Lois watched it all. I think the character who tormented him was named 'Steve'. It happened most often while Clark worked for Morgan Edge of 'Galaxy Broadcasting', who had purchased the Daily Planet and made him a TV reporter. It went on for decades, along with the introduction of TONS of crappy new powers. next time.. do some research before you make a claim like Donner being responsible for Clark's 'bumbling'

  • Dec. 24, 2005, 2:48 p.m. CST

    look at those people in the back, espesially that guy in the swe

    by calami-shami

    They're all like "You are so gay" and "Tom Welling could kick yer ass." All the while Supes is saving they're dumbo asses. HA

  • Dec. 24, 2005, 2:53 p.m. CST

    Largo Jr

    by Ivan_Mtl

    Well, the funny thing is that I used to own a comic book store for a number of years and have read them my entire life. Your memory of Superman is completely flawed. I would suggest that you pick up the Superman in the 70's trade paperback or any individual comic book from that era and you will see that Clark Kent was played very straight (no pun intended). Steve Lombard was the name of the character that you couldn't seem to remember, but it was Clark that always turned the tables on his would-be tormentor whenever he attempted to play a practical joke on him. I invite you to post any sequence from any Superman comic book that portrays him as the bumbling buffoon we saw in the Donner film and its subsequent sequels. When it comes to comic books of the past, I would like to think I know what I am talking about (but I have no problem admitting when I am wrong). Go ahead... show me a panel of a stumbling, stuttering, nerdish Clark Kent from any era of the comic books.

  • Dec. 24, 2005, 3:01 p.m. CST

    He looks strangely like Will of Will and Grace fame in that shot

    by Terry_1978

    And I don't mean it in that way, I mean he seriously looks like him.

  • Dec. 24, 2005, 6:57 p.m. CST

    WELLING IS THE BOMB, DON'T DENY IT! and btw...MERRY CHRISTMA

    by Shermdawg

  • Dec. 24, 2005, 7:46 p.m. CST

    maven, "why can't a guy who is gay put together a great movi

    by Immortal_Fish

    Because Bryan Singer is the director and that would be a first for him.

  • Dec. 24, 2005, 7:49 p.m. CST

    Routh looks like Ken Wahl and Chris Noth.

    by JUSTICE41

    In this flick Luthor is still trying to acquire Real Estate. Supes goes back to Krypton to find out about his past and returns in that Black costume from the comics with the silver S. Read this awhile back on Latinoreview. Could be true could be all tall tales. If Routh had thickened up his neck he wouldn't look so skinny. Reeve had a thick neck. Do a side by side comparison.

  • Dec. 24, 2005, 9:15 p.m. CST

    I DON'T BLAME SUPERMAN FOR BEING ANGRY. WHEN THE SODA MACHI

    by JDanielP

  • Dec. 24, 2005, 9:24 p.m. CST

    Who cares about the costume?

    by Novaman5000

    Are you really going to let an emblem that is too small by 3 millimeters or light blue tights instead of sky blue tights ruin the movie for you? You people are crazy. CRAZY. There, I said it, and I don't regret a word of it.

  • Dec. 24, 2005, 9:54 p.m. CST

    Well said novaman

    by tjrmusic

  • Dec. 24, 2005, 10:05 p.m. CST

    WHO GIVES A SHIT IF SUPERMAN LOOKS GAY?

    by God-Man

    Who cares if the director is gay? What the fuck is wrong with you people? This movie is going to be fucking amazing. Botton line.

  • Dec. 25, 2005, 12:05 a.m. CST

    Man O'Steel

    by Capt. Spaulding

    You know he's a hero because he has giant kneecaps.

  • Dec. 25, 2005, 8:03 a.m. CST

    by rabban

    i would have given the blue portions of his outfit a tint of red.

  • Dec. 25, 2005, 10:55 a.m. CST

    Shermdawg?! More like teh Shermdoodoo!

    by J-Dizzle

    M I ryte?

  • Dec. 25, 2005, 11:12 a.m. CST

    J-Dizzle? More like teh D-JIZZle!

    by Shermdawg

    And Merry Christmas to you too!

  • Dec. 25, 2005, 12:01 p.m. CST

    I need the sequel to Superman 2 thing explained to me

    by Citizen Arcane

    At the end of Superman 2, Superman apologizes for flaking out and promises that he'll never leave again. So then he leaves for 5 years? And Superman 3 never happend? How did the guys from Office Space get the idea for their computer scam? Answer me that, you fruity bastard!

  • Dec. 25, 2005, 12:01 p.m. CST

    LOOKS A LOT LIKE SUPERMAN!

    by thot

    I have been pretty critical of the Singer suit (and still am) but I gotta say that the last two released photos ("arms crossed" and "holding the globe") are good. Routh is looking like Superman in these shots. I am becoming (guardedly) hopeful!

  • Dec. 25, 2005, 12:40 p.m. CST

    yeah this is starting to look cool

    by calami-shami

    i think its funny though that he has a symbol on his belt buckle. "So what's the deal with that Supes?" "Well I figured everyone might be distracted by my huge package, or batch if you prefer. So I put my S down there just so theyd know who's pumpkin patch it was they were gaping at."

  • Dec. 25, 2005, 2:34 p.m. CST

    Maybe I'm crazy.

    by dr_dreadlocks

    But Routh looks like the kind of guy you could slap around, and all he could do is weep and look sad. I mean, we're supposed to root for Supes, right? How do we root for a guy who looks like he's doing model work for some futuristic Calvin Klein spandex outfit? Frankly, I don't much care. It just feels too superficial. Reeve was an actor. Routh is a model. The problem rests with the fact that he'll flail around on screen with his lines. Oh, well, he has the look! Yeah, big deal, so do a shitload of other actors. You know, real actors? Those are cool. Whatever. Pretty boy Supes is just that. Funny part is, I don't expect anyone else to give a shit either.

  • Dec. 25, 2005, 2:50 p.m. CST

    Kneel Before Zod!

    by Evil Chicken

    I'm with Father Geek; this movie can't come fast enough for me. I can't wait. Singer Rocks.

  • Dec. 25, 2005, 2:53 p.m. CST

    Gay:

    by Jack Parsons

    If he sleeps with women, or he wants to, he's straight. If Supes wants Aquaman, he's gay. "Gay", you 13 year old future RNC members, is a sexual orientation, not a word meaning "funny looking" or "someone I want to beat up when the teachers aren't looking". I don't like the use of the word "homophobe" in connection with simply joking about over-the-top aspects of gay culture, but it IS homophobic to simply call everything that appeals to your repressed homosexual yearnings "gay". That's just so gay.

  • Dec. 25, 2005, 3:25 p.m. CST

    huh???

    by rabban

    then what the HELL do we call the village people!!??

  • Dec. 25, 2005, 8:21 p.m. CST

    Actually gay means festive and joyous.

    by JUSTICE41

    Homosexuals took over the word and changed it's meaning. But hey if your a homo don't worry about it. Don't know why being called what you are is so offensive. Breath deep, pick the pubic hair from your teeth and calm down.

  • Dec. 25, 2005, 10:16 p.m. CST

    so gay

    by smackfu

    "Gay", you 13 year old future RNC members, is a sexual orientation, not a word meaning "funny looking" or "someone I want to beat up when the teachers aren't looking"--------------------actually it's commonly used to equate lameness, I've even heard it used by gays in that context. It's a commonly accepted use of the word, regardless of whether it offends anyone.

  • Dec. 25, 2005, 11:21 p.m. CST

    The 2

    by Darth Maui

    "The continuity is screwed up - its a sequel to Superman 2, but everyone is younger, and we pretend that 3 and 4 never happened." So what? I don't have a problem with that and I'm not even knocking parts 3 and 4. They're always having to revise the continuity in the comics anyway.

  • Dec. 26, 2005, 1:02 a.m. CST

    Since everyone is throwing "gay" around, I might as well share m

    by Shermdawg

    Whoever plays Supes, whether its Routh, Welling, or whoever, they should be required to buff up a bit. Instead of the tired and severly outdated spandex getup, have the actor wear wrestling trunks and boots along with the cape(not leather!) and belt, a glued on chest emblem, and everything that is blue would be a body paint/rubber prosthetic sorta like Rebecca Romaijn's in the X flicks. This way, it would show off his muscle definition, and it would be closer to the look of the comics. Go ahead, start complaining. -_-

  • Dec. 26, 2005, 2:40 a.m. CST

    Immortal Fish

    by Ribbons

    Orly? What about 'Usual Suspects' and 'Apt Pupil?' What about the odd episode of "House?" I know from dealing with you in the past that you're a Marvel guy, so I don't know if you're just pissed about what he did to your X-Men or what, but please don't sell the guy short because of some offense that half-exists in your mind. Like other people have said, no one would complain about how much he "gayed up" the X-Men if they didn't know he were gay in the first place. Ditto with Superman. Superman's costume, basically, always looks like this. Maroon boots, a leather cape and a smaller shield across the chest do not suddenly transform him from a paragon of heterosexual virility into a homosexual icon. I can't believe how much bad buzz has been generated against this movie just because the costume is slightly different. Just goes to show how many Superman fans there are, I guess (as well as how many of them are completely certifiable).

  • Dec. 26, 2005, 6:06 a.m. CST

    Here Comes Super-Gay...To Save the Day!!!!

    by chien_sale

    Am I the only one picturing Elton John signing the Superman theme Song? "Can`t you feel the loooove toooonight! It`s the way WE aaaaare! It`s a love for Queens and Vagabons to be able to wear shinny outfiiiits!".

  • Dec. 26, 2005, 10:05 a.m. CST

    Hey, chien_sale: A little FYI for you.

    by Barry Egan

    Elton John didn't write the lyrics to that song. Tim Rice did.

  • Dec. 26, 2005, 12:05 p.m. CST

    GEORGE TAKEI IS EVERYBODY IN THE MOVIE AND HE IS COMING TO OWN Y

    by jesuschrist

    Owned.

  • Dec. 26, 2005, 12:58 p.m. CST

    Superman Returns Bitches!

    by Lost Skeleton

    Like Harry...I cannot wait to see this damn movie!

  • Dec. 26, 2005, 1:43 p.m. CST

    Routh is 6'4"

    by drewcaster

    According to IMDB. Same height as Christopher Reeves and taller than Welling...

  • Dec. 26, 2005, 4:55 p.m. CST

    You morons.

    by Shaz_bot80

    The costume is more of a retro look for the big blue boy scout. Look at the cover of Action Comics #1 or go an look up the Max Fleischer cartoons and you will find a smaller symbol on the chest. The larger emblem didn't come to be until John Byrne in the 80's. Also, the costume design looks like Superman. In earlier versions of the script, Supes wore a metalic-robot suit and a matrix black leather suit (not to mention that he wasn't flying either!). And as far as Routh goes, Tom Welling would be cool to see on screen as Supes, no doubt, but If Welling were to play Supes it would be the end of Smallville. His TV schedule was too much and wouldn't allow Welling the time to make it. Also considering all the names that were considered to put on the tights such as Nic Cage, Will Smith, Josh Hartnett, Ashton Kutcher, Orlando Bloom, Paul Walker, Jude Law and Jerry O'Connel you should be damn lucky that some one who actually resembles the character was cast! Nouth is fit and is also very athletic. As far as the age issue goes, Christopher Reeve was 25 when he took the role of Superman too. And on top of that Brian Singer said that he casted them younger so that when the sequels gat made, you won't get a wrinkled and gery Superman! On a further note, I don't hate Smallville. Its a great show and gives depth to the myth of Superman. But when it comes to the movie, I'd rather see Superman than Smallville on the big screen.

  • Dec. 26, 2005, 10:40 p.m. CST

    How much you wanna make a bet I can throw this globe over them m

    by IAmJack'sUserID

  • Dec. 27, 2005, 2:15 a.m. CST

    The 2

    by Darth Maui

    For all that can be said about them or against them or whatever Superman III and IV each had one very good scene . . . and they were both focused on the Clark Kent/Superman relationship.

  • Dec. 27, 2005, 7:57 a.m. CST

    Superman returns

    by emeraldboy

    You are wrong by the way. In feb issue of Empire(200th by the way harry also features). They have an exclusive on Superman Returns. Empire talked to singer about what it as all about and they revealed some aspects of the movie. First: story. Kal el/clark/superman has been away. The world has moved on without and he wants to get back with lois, only to find she has a kid and is married to someone else. second You all remember Gene Hackman's Lex luthor. well forget that. Kevin Spaceys Lex is a powerful powerhungary villain(hes 100% a bad mothafucker)at one point lex tortures superman with some krypton. Superman has a ship to take himself to to earth and krypton, but being a bad driver he crashs into his backyard. This film does borrow alot from the first two films. we see young clark in high school(nod to smallville) but to counter homewreckers point about no continuity. In superman returns he has to battle three kryptonians(superman 2). Empire noted that this was going to be a lush film and that according to empire singer said his inspiration was hitchcocks rebecca. Empire also scothed rumours of a reeves like clark kent. The decor and the style of the movie has a 1940s ring.

  • Dec. 27, 2005, 9:34 a.m. CST

    SHERMDAWG IS ANNOYING AS HELL, DON'T DENY IT!!!

    by Capt. Murphy

    He's right about one thing tho: MICHAEL ROSENBAUM IS LEX LUTHOR! DON'T DENY IT!

  • Dec. 27, 2005, 2:08 p.m. CST

    He's too scrawny!!!! Why not just cast the reanimated corpse

    by Borgnine JR

    Or Don Knotts to you non-UnderDog fans.

  • Dec. 27, 2005, 4:49 p.m. CST

    moviemack

    by calami-shami

    yeah me too, and a musical number.

  • Dec. 27, 2005, 4:51 p.m. CST

    the november issue of GAME INFORMER featured the SUPERMAN RETURN

    by calami-shami

  • Dec. 27, 2005, 4:53 p.m. CST

    damnable "enter" key

    by calami-shami

    teh cover showed supes flying away from a giant Brainiac robot. Is that in the movie?

  • The S is way too small for that.

  • Dec. 27, 2005, 10:11 p.m. CST

    Are those three Kryptonians named Tod, Burtha, and Ron?

    by IAmJack'sUserID

  • Dec. 27, 2005, 10:30 p.m. CST

    A quick question.

    by The_Countess

    If Supes isn't wearing his red Speedos, is he going Commando? Just wondering.

  • Dec. 28, 2005, 5:15 p.m. CST

    so luthor's the villain again?

    by calami-shami

    and appearently he uses genetically engineered corn to fight superman.

  • Dec. 28, 2005, 8:42 p.m. CST

    As far as the SMALLVILLE flick goes...

    by Shermdawg

    I don't know how they are gonna get from where they are now, to Clark having a secret identity as a Daily Planet reporter. Possibly a new take on the look of Supes? Sort of like the different colored "energy" versions of him from the late 90's? Or maybe they will ditch the alter ego all together. That right there would be interesting. Have everyone know who he is, and countless people suing him over property damage and whatnot. He would be percieved as a menace, even the government would be after him when Kal refuses to be their whipping boy. Martha, and his friends would be targeted, he rescues them and takes them back to the fortress of solitude, thus setting up the military surrounding it, and him eventually giving up. Then Darkseid or someone shows up, raises hell, and Supes is the only one that can stop 'em, thus redeeming himself in the eye of the public. Lex however, now a powerful senator, remains the person leading the anti-Supes crusade.

  • Dec. 29, 2005, 2:52 a.m. CST

    The extra powers in Superman II

    by ZeroCorpse

    I've thought about this (really!) and I've come to a conclusion: Those weren't Superman's powers. They were high-tech tricks performed by the Fortress of Solitude. The "S" wrap was a Kryptonian law enforcement tool for holding criminals, similar to the hardening foam we're starting to use in some cities in America. The "multiplier" was just a holographic trick. Obviously, Superman arrived there well before Luthor and Zod's crew, and he rigged the place to deal with the fact that he was outnumbered. He knew Luthor would bring them there (because the Fortress recorded Luthor's earlier visit) and he knew that they wouldn't use their brains due to Zod's supreme overconfidence, Ursa's blinding hatred of men, and Non's being a half lobotomized ogre. The only power I can't explain is the telekinesis displayed by Zod earlier in the movie, but perhaps it's not a "Yellow Sun" power, but a true telekinesis that Zod possessed even before he was banished to the neutral zone? Hard to say, but there's a way to logic it out, I'm sure.

  • Dec. 29, 2005, 6:54 a.m. CST

    Re: Superman's extra powers

    by eg4190

    Okay, maybe he rigged the Fortress. I'll certainly buy that with the three holographic Supermen. But come on, the chest shield? It's almost as ridiculous as anything in Batman and Robin. If it was some kind of Kryptonian law enforcement tool, then why is it shaped like a Superman shield? The clear implication is that Superman is using one of his powers to pull the shield off. Even if it is Kryptonian (I guess it's possible since Movie Superman's shield is actually a family crest) how come he never uses it in any of the other movies? It's a pathetic looking rabbit-out-of-a-hat bit of hack writing and directing. You can't just invent powers that are only used once and seem uniquely suited to one specific unrepeatable situation. Never had a problem with Zod's telekinesis though, maybe everyone who comes from a Red Sun planet gets slightly different superpowers.

  • Dec. 29, 2005, 7:36 a.m. CST

    And you call SMALLVILLE retarded, at least its 100% saran wrap

    by Shermdawg

  • Dec. 29, 2005, 9:11 a.m. CST

    You cannot compare SMALLVILLE's ratings to Lois and Clark.

    by Shermdawg

    The internet hadn't really taken off, and videogames weren't as big. Ratings as a whole have dropped considerably in the last ten years. Also, it's on the WB, you have to have cable or sattelite to watch it in my neck of the woods, and I'm guessing its the same way in other parts of the country, so that also plays a major role in its ratings. And last time I checked, none of the WB's shows were huge ratings successes. It's the networks fault, not the quality of the shows. Get it straight. If you're gonna hate on it, at least make a credible argument.

  • Dec. 29, 2005, 11:54 a.m. CST

    Smallville ratings

    by Turd Furgusen

    I'll admit that Smallville has its problems but it has come a long way. This was in Entertainment Weekly, "Viewers

  • Dec. 29, 2005, 12:42 p.m. CST

    You can almost sense what he's thinking...

    by scrumdiddly

    "Come on, girdle...hold!" If it's better than the old 2, 3 and 4, it'll be just fine.

  • Dec. 29, 2005, 3:41 p.m. CST

    If you all dont like this film then

    by emeraldboy

    dont'go. This film inst even open yet not other trailer has been produced for this film and yet your all bitch, bitch, bitch. a lot of people will go to this film to be entertained. and that is all. I will go and see this film, I was huge fan of the superman series and have seen all the movies. I like all movies. I have been going since I was child and since 1996 I have seen one film a weekend. there have been some exceptions. like family man and the arthouse movies in the IFI. For the record I didnt like lois and clark: all that much. I always though dean cain was so smug, but I liked the whole elvis perry white thing.

  • Dec. 29, 2005, 8:51 p.m. CST

    I never said the shows on the WB sucked.

    by Shermdawg

    If you would have read my post I stated the WB isn't available without cable or sattelite in some markets, like mine. (And it's just stupid comparing something like The Sopranos to anything on the WB, or any other network for that matter.) Take Gilmore Girls, a critically acclaimed show and doing well for a WB show, if it was on one of the big four, it would most certainly have better ratings, the same goes for Smallville. I swear you guys are such haters you can't even face the facts that even though the show has its problems here and there, it's quite decent and a hell of a lot more popular than you realize, or will admit. And another factor in the ratings is the people that watch the dvd's instead of it on tv. And one day the fans of that show will get a bigscreen spinoff. Now don't get me wrong, I've never said flat out Superman Returns will suck. As a matter of fact, I've been watching the mini-docs on bluetights.net (.com?) and I'm warming up to Routh, at least as far as his voice is concerned (someone mentioned it earlier) but his look is just wrong.

  • Dec. 30, 2005, 6:59 a.m. CST

    moviemack? um... (ahem)

    by LargoJr

    Why do you keep refering to them as 'The Donner Movies'? Donner had virtually nothing to do with what was released as Superman II, and the first Superman was a mishmash of nearly half of what he had intended for the 2nd film. Don't blame him for the absolute crapfest of 'New Powers' that got foisted onto the audience. Thank Dick Lester for that.

  • Dec. 30, 2005, 9:25 a.m. CST

    Shermdawg and Largo Jr

    by Turd Furgusen

    Well said.

  • Dec. 31, 2005, 9:11 p.m. CST

    SMALLVILLE WILL STILL OWN YOUR ASS IN 2006!!!

    by Shermdawg

    Happy New Years, you haters!!!

  • Jan. 1, 2006, 5:56 a.m. CST

    Superman 3 > Rooth`s Gay Superboy

    by chien_sale

    that`s right

  • Jan. 1, 2006, 10:43 a.m. CST

    Rcamacho2278-hiding the bulge

    by leesheri

    One of my best friends is a transvestite, and he uses a well placed maxi pad to hide the bulge. Not doing this is considered trashy and tacky. You wanted to know

  • Sept. 12, 2006, 9 a.m. CST

    Ok, heres what my classic posts said...

    by Shermdawg

    before they were butchered...<br><br>WELLING IS SUPERMAN! DON'T DENY IT! HE'S THE BOMB! JUST WAIT, THEY'LL MAKE A KICKASS FLICK IN ABOUT FIVE YEARS, AND YOU'LL ALL BE SAYING "YOU KNOW WHAT? THAT SHERMDAWG WAS RIGHT!"<br>Plus, Welling wouldn't use a whole fucking can of Aquanet, just to get that stupid gawd damn curl Routh is sportin. And while we are on the subject, Welling would have made a kick ass Anakin<br><br>MICHAEL ROSENBAUM IS LEX LUTHOR! DON'T DENY IT! HE'S THE BOMB! JUST WAIT, THEY'LL MAKE A KICKASS FLICK IN ABOUT FIVE YEARS, AND YOU'LL ALL BE SAYING "YOU KNOW WHAT? THAT SHERMDAWG WAS RIGHT!"<br>Plus, Rosenbaum wouldn't use a whole fucking can of shaving cream to shave his gawd damn head like Kevin Spacey. And while we are on the subject, Rosenbaum would have made a kick ass Cyclops<br><br>ERICA DURANCE IS NOT LOIS LANE! DON'T DENY IT! SHE SUCKS! JUST WAIT, THEY'LL MAKE A KICKASS FLICK IN ABOUT FIVE YEARS, AND YOU'LL ALL BE SAYING "YOU KNOW WHAT? THAT ERICA DURANCE REALLY SUCKS."<br><br>KRISTIN KREUK IS HOT! DON'T DENY IT! SHES SMOKIN! JUST WAIT, WE'LL GET MARRIED IN ABOUT FIVE YEARS, AND YOU'LL ALL BE SAYING "HOLY SHIT! HOW THE HELL DID THAT HAPPEN???"<br><br>JOHN SCHNEIDER IS BO DUKE! DON'T DENY IT! HE'S THE BOMB! JUST WAIT, THEY'LL MAKE A REAL DUKES FLICK IN ABOUT FIVE YEARS WITH THE REANIMATED CORPSES OF UNCLE JESSE AND BOSS HOG, AND YOU'LL ALL BE SAYING "OK, NOW THAT'S JUST FUCKED UP!"<br><br><br>responses:<br><br>THAT DOG IS KRYPTO! DON'T DENY IT HE'S THE BOMB! JUST WAIT, THEY'LL MAKE A KICKASS FLICK IN ABOUT FIVE YEARS! WHAT? THE DOG WILL BE PUT DOWN BY THEN? OK NEVER MIND!<br><br>KRISTIN KREUK IS HOT! BUT YOU ARE NOT MARRYING HER! DON'T DENY IT! SHES SMOKIN! BUT JUST WAIT, IN ABOUT FIVE YEARS YOU'LL WAKE UP FROM THIS MAD DELUSION, AND BE SAYING "HOLY SHIT! THIS IS NOT MY BEAUTIFULL WIFE, THIS IS NOT MY BEAUTIFULL HOUSE...WELL..., HOW DID I GET HERE? (Cue the Talking Heads)

  • Sept. 16, 2006, 4:17 a.m. CST

    Ok, heres what my classic posts said...

    by Shermdawg

    WELLING IS SUPERMAN! DON'T DENY IT! HE'S THE BOMB! JUST WAIT, THEY'LL MAKE A KICKASS FLICK IN ABOUT FIVE YEARS, AND YOU'LL ALL BE SAYING "YOU KNOW WHAT? THAT SHERMDAWG WAS RIGHT!"<br>Plus, Welling wouldn't use a whole fucking can of Aquanet, just to get that stupid gawd damn curl Routh is sportin. And while we are on the subject, Welling would have made a kick ass Anakin<br><br>MICHAEL ROSENBAUM IS LEX LUTHOR! DON'T DENY IT! HE'S THE BOMB! JUST WAIT, THEY'LL MAKE A KICKASS FLICK IN ABOUT FIVE YEARS, AND YOU'LL ALL BE SAYING "YOU KNOW WHAT? THAT SHERMDAWG WAS RIGHT!"<br>Plus, Rosenbaum wouldn't use a whole fucking can of shaving cream to shave his gawd damn head like Kevin Spacey. And while we are on the subject, Rosenbaum would have made a kick ass Cyclops<br><br>ERICA DURANCE IS NOT LOIS LANE! DON'T DENY IT! SHE SUCKS! JUST WAIT, THEY'LL MAKE A KICKASS FLICK IN ABOUT FIVE YEARS, AND YOU'LL ALL BE SAYING "YOU KNOW WHAT? THAT ERICA DURANCE REALLY SUCKS."<br><br>KRISTIN KREUK IS HOT! DON'T DENY IT! SHES SMOKIN! JUST WAIT, WE'LL GET MARRIED IN ABOUT FIVE YEARS, AND YOU'LL ALL BE SAYING "HOLY SHIT! HOW THE HELL DID THAT HAPPEN???"<br><br>JOHN SCHNEIDER IS BO DUKE! DON'T DENY IT! HE'S THE BOMB! JUST WAIT, THEY'LL MAKE A REAL DUKES FLICK IN ABOUT FIVE YEARS WITH THE REANIMATED CORPSES OF UNCLE JESSE AND BOSS HOG, AND YOU'LL ALL BE SAYING "OK, NOW THAT'S JUST FUCKED UP!"<br><br><br>responses:<br><br>THAT DOG IS KRYPTO! DON'T DENY IT HE'S THE BOMB! JUST WAIT, THEY'LL MAKE A KICKASS FLICK IN ABOUT FIVE YEARS! WHAT? THE DOG WILL BE PUT DOWN BY THEN? OK NEVER MIND!<br><br>KRISTIN KREUK IS HOT! BUT YOU ARE NOT MARRYING HER! DON'T DENY IT! SHES SMOKIN! BUT JUST WAIT, IN ABOUT FIVE YEARS YOU'LL WAKE UP FROM THIS MAD DELUSION, AND BE SAYING "HOLY SHIT! THIS IS NOT MY BEAUTIFULL WIFE, THIS IS NOT MY BEAUTIFULL HOUSE...WELL..., HOW DID I GET HERE? (Cue the Talking Heads)

  • Sept. 23, 2006, 8:58 p.m. CST

    lol, it took forever for that first post to go through.

    by Shermdawg

    So I tried again, hence the double post. >_<