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Father Geek's Top Films Seen In 2005

Well, it's that time of the year again. A time when we all think back over the last 365 days of movie going and try to decide if it was worth all the lines, traffic, noisy audience members, security checks, and skyrocketing prices (at the pump as well as at the ticket office and snack bar). I don't know about you... buuut for me, a 60 year old admitted Movie Addict, it was a very good year (not the best ever, but far far from the worse). After viewing 350+ feature length motion pictures theatrically with audiences in 2005 I found it difficult to cut the list of favorites down to just 25. Believe me I've been working on it for a couple of weeks now. There were just alot of films I really enjoyed this year.

First off, the list that follows is not necessarily the BEST MADE films of 2005, although many are. These are the movies that pushed MY buttons, that turned ME on, that made ME laugh and cry, sweat and shiver, that took me out of my life and put me somewhere else, in someone else's shoes. They are movies that made me blowoff my problems, or shoulder the weight of the world. Some required me to leave my brain at home and just leave the driving to others... and some (the best) made me think, not only about myself and my family and country, but about the human race in general. Where are we headed? How will we get there? Will we? Is it worth it?

I believe the primary, up front, goal of a theatrical motion picture should be to entertain. If it does that, well, good it's done it's job, but that's all. It's done it's job. I'd say about half the movies I viewed on the big screen this year did their bare to the bones jobs and collected their boxoffice paychecks, buuuut I give extra points for literacy, artful design and photography, lots of extra points. Boxoffice proceeds are not what my list is about, it helps, some of the films below have and will make tons of cash, but to me that is not the "end all", the ultimate yardstick of the success or failure of a motion picture, nor does that alone condemn a flick, buuut to make MY list there must be multiple extras. Not the least of which is thought. Not just intelligent design on the part of the filmmakers, but the actual implanting of thought processes into the minds of the audience. Now I'm not saying that every film on my list has deep thought enriching premises, but the closer you get to the top the more of that you'll find. That said, I do like rolicking, mindless mayhem when its called for, remember above I did say some of this years favorites required me to leave my brain in the trunk of the car.

So here we go... 25 motion pictures seen (but not necessarily released) in 2005 that Father Geek feels you can't go wrong with, the top of my heap, films that should leave you feeling something deep inside, films easily worth the price of admission. These are in reverse order... with repeated viewings and depending on my mood this order could change... but not radically. One more thing... while I've seen a hell of alot of movies this past year, I haven't seen all of them, soooo if your fave isn't here maybe it just fell through the cracks in my incomplete film viewing...


rank......title......viewing date


24. AEON FLUX 12-2





19. HOOLIGANS 3-18

18. WOLFCREEK 10-8

17. HOSTEL 10-9

16. DANNY THE DOG 2-23

15. WALK THE LINE 11-17

14. SIN CITY 3-21

13. SYRIANA 12-5


11. MATCHPOINT 12-21

10. NOBELITY 8-15




6. HUSTLE & FLOW 3-17

5. MUNICH 12-20


3. KING KONG 12-10


1. V...FOR VENDETTA 12-11

There you have it... I don't make a worse list. I don't enjoy revisiting them, and especialy don't really want to think further about them. Out of sight... out of mind... that where they belong.

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  • Dec. 22, 2005, 1:51 p.m. CST


    by andymc

    Batman behind kong!!! kiss kiss behing danny the dog and hooligans you sir are a fool

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 2:07 p.m. CST

    What is wrong with Father Geek?

    by chrth

    Didn't he get the memo that any mention of V for Vendetta requires a diatribe against the current state of the nation?

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 2:13 p.m. CST

    V for Vendetta

    by SnowMann

    In the last week I've gone from nearly dreading this film to wanting to see it more than any other film next year. Good job AICN.

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 2:13 p.m. CST

    Kiss Kiss Bang Bang Rules

    by allfunandgames

    Nice list, except for Aeon Flux

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 2:19 p.m. CST

    Filmmakers are using Intelligent Design?

    by SickPuppy

    Doesn't that fly in the face of what this nice leberal website is all about?

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 2:20 p.m. CST

    SnowMann, I agree

    by DanielKurland

    I thoguht this was gonig to be terrible, but lately I've been hearing nothing but good things. I'm actually excited now. As long as they don't remove the "vicious cabaret" song/scene, I'll be content. That bit is far too amazing to remove.

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 2:23 p.m. CST

    no sith

    by Colonel_Blimp

    but hitchiker is represented...adieu credibility.

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 2:24 p.m. CST

    Never saw a lot of films in theatres this year...

    by Johnno

    For me the highlights were... 1. Batman Begins 2.Howl's Moving Castle 3. Harry Potter and the goblet of fire. Anything else was just M'eh... But I've yet to see King Kong Or Narnia or Syriana

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 2:24 p.m. CST

    Fine, I'll be the Lucas geek and mention Star Wars

    by Citizen Arcane

    You can be as too-cool-for-the-room as you want but Revenge of the Sith kicked ass and I'm not ashamed to say it.

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 2:25 p.m. CST

    Oh yeah #4 for me...

    by Johnno

    how could I forget Revenge of the Sith?

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 2:25 p.m. CST

    and #5

    by Johnno

    ONg Bak... or was that last year?

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 2:29 p.m. CST

    I know it's hard to remember...

    by Pimbully

    i mean, that tiny little star wars movie, anyone??? c'mon, are you serious?

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 2:31 p.m. CST

    ong bak?

    by SnowMann

    Cool movie. Doesn't belong anywhere on the list. Cool stunts can't hide the fact the story is lame as hell.

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 2:36 p.m. CST

    sorry harry, i couldn't resist

    by Pimbully

    sorry harry, i couldn't resist

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 2:37 p.m. CST

    Guys, read the post title

    by chrth

    "Top Films SEEN in 2005" ... FG has always rated them based on when he saw them, not their year of release.

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 2:43 p.m. CST

    no obscure asian films this year?

    by JudgeNXcutioner

    guess that just might be the big guy's list

  • Munich I have yet to see. Hooligans I am waiting for on dvd as it was in our arthouse theater for 1 week only. Syriana was slow and an overall letdown. 7 of those top ten movies are either not playing or were pretty limited releases (with a couple exceptions. Saw Hustle & Flow on a flight to London. Good movie. On a side note: Terrance Malick fans need to find the 1967 movie Beach Red on dvd. It was obviously ripped off for The Thin Red Line. I hate to say it, but scene for scene there are amazing similarities. Even Saving Private Ryan is guilty of stealing from this film (a dazed soldier walking around the beach without an arm). I just saw it and am AMAZED at how much material was stolen from Beach Red (soldiers flashing back to loved ones during combat.The camera pushing through tall blades of grass. Nature surviving during battle. Soldiers thoughts during combat. Eerie breathing and slowed down sounds in some scenes). Some other AICN movie fan PLEASE get this movie and tell me if you agree. Unbelievable amount of theft from Beach Red. I know Spielberg and Malick were young up and coming filmmakers in the late 60's, so I would bet it's more than a coincidence.......

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 2:53 p.m. CST

    Aeon Flux?????

    by Spaz Medicine

    I stopped reading the second I saw that on the list.

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 2:53 p.m. CST

    Yeah where is Ong Bak?

    by Mits777

    Give Tony Jaa the living legend his props. Also how is Sin City and Hostel not ranked any higher? Yes im one of the lucky few who saw Hostel already. I semi-liked Cabin Fever but Hostel is all that and a bag of chips.

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 2:56 p.m. CST

    When will you people stop convincing yourself that Episode 3 was

    by barrettw

    George Lucas has pulled the wool over your eyes! Just because the first two episodes were so terrible is the only way episode 3 is good! Compared to other movies, its downright lacking. Sheesh.

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 2:57 p.m. CST

    How the hell can you make this list before...

    by Strabo

    The New World comes out? Bah. Also, I guess JudgeNXcutioner failed to notice the #2 spot with Sympathy for Lady Vengeance. Also, what the hell is "Nobelity"? Finally, everyone talking about Sith can STFU. Sith was a middling coda to an atrocious series. The Star Wars prequel trilogy is no better than the Matrix trilogy. The sad part is that the rod up Lucas' ass is too stiff for him to allow criticsm commentary tracks like the Wachowski's did for the big boxed set.

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 2:59 p.m. CST

    SITH 2005

    by RaulMonkey

    chrth, would you have us believe that Father *GEEK* didn't see ROTS? No way he saw it five months early in 2004; the Lucas clampdown is too mighty for that. Nope, looks like he genuinely regards these 25 films as better than SITH.

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 3:02 p.m. CST

    Allright what the hell. Since no one asked, I'll expand on y

    by Citizen Arcane

    Yes there were moments of silly dialogue. You could argue that the characters themselves aren't exactly poets and that the dialogue was accurate or you could just say that Lucas sucks at writing dialogue, which seems to be the popular opinion. Ok, fine. Getting past that, the movie was incredible. Shall we compare it to the other big movie, King Kong? there's absolutly no reason to but let's do it anyway. The much as Kong tried to hold me down and force me to care about Kong, sorry, I just didn't. It was a brilliantly rendered special effect and very accuratly acted ape but in the end I cared more about the poor natives and New York blondes he mutilated than the ape himself. Carl Denham? No character arc. He started out a dick, ended the movie with a nonsensical dick line. Anne? I felt a little for her but all things ebing equal I'd be more interested in seeing her in the burlesque show she almost did. And that hook nosed guy was just sort of there. In Revenge of the Sith, there was pathos all over the place. I felt for Obi Wan and the burden he carried, I felt for Padme and her sweet little confused and helpless ass and I felt for Anakin who got roped into turning to the Dark Side but was really just looking for an excuse anyway. And Palpatine....I don't want to turn this into a political thread but I'll just say that if our president started shooting lighting out of his hands, I wouldn't bat an eye. So to sum up, action, better. Special effect, a LOT better. For what it was, Revenge of the Sith was twice the film King Kong was. Although I didn't see Aeon Flux so maybe that kicked both their ass but somehow I doubt it.

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 3:05 p.m. CST

    Citizen Arcane

    by Strabo

    Wait, better special effects in Sith? Do you mean the bland, boring, CGI backgrounds with no texture or depth? Just wanted to confirm. Thanks.

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 3:07 p.m. CST

    also, while I'm here...

    by Strabo

    Take a look at the work Portman did in Leon, then look at the entire Prequel trilogy. Pathos? Bullshit. She had nothing to work with, and it's blatantly obvious. Or do you really expect us to believe she was a better actress at 13 than she is now?

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 3:07 p.m. CST

    Whats a moviephile round table...

    by fathergeek

    never been there or done that. As for internet cafes... never been in one. I did attend film school and spent 30 years selling vintage film collectibles in person to fans, talking extensively about what makes films good, bad, or ugly and desireable 50 years later. As for Sith it was # 28 on my list right behind RENT which was right behind NARNIA. Damn I just plain forgot HOWL'S MOVING CASTLE best anime I saw in 2005, annnnnd shit I also forgot STRINGS an outstandingly beautiful puppet film, well, I never said I was perfect. If those go on then War of the Worlds and Flux drop off and SITH drops to #30. As for my Trendy Independant Hollywood Statis, well I give a shit, a big wet greasy one about what anyone thinks of my statis, especially people hiding behind faux trendy names. This list was written to please no one, but myself... you either agree or disagree. If you disagree, well that's your misfortune, certainly NOT mine! Also this is not a USA Release date list... its Motion Pictures (not screener discs) that I have seen in 2005 with audiences in theaters. That's what it is about... the films I've seen in 2005.

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 3:10 p.m. CST

    and arcane, get your political parallels right:

    by mocky_puppet

    palpatine is dick cheney, ani is george bush. that's the silly comparison george is making, and it's an annoying element which contributes to the annoying whole. the movie was terrible, made worse by the few, faint glimmers of what the whole stupid six picture mess could have been. other than that, i have no opinion on this issue.

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 3:11 p.m. CST

    I don't know who else is willing to go there with me, but Gr

    by charliechaplin

    You are a movie star. You are a super hero. You are one with the animals. You are good. You fight for the innocence of the animals against those who would hurt them. What a fucking head trip this movie was. I saw an advanced screening and had no idea what I was in for. I thought it would be a nature documentary about bears. It is. But it is also one of the most revealing documentaries about human mind that I have seen. How we bundle ourselves in delusions and blind ourselves from what we do not want to see, in how we percieve ourselves and the true nature of the world. Absolutely horrifying. The Grizzley Man is a whacko, but to dissmiss this film as such is to deny that we also suffer from self-delusions and tell ourselves stories in which we are the heroes, excluding from our self-awareness the true nature of the world and ourselves. Think about the whole "Catcher in the Rye" phenomenon. I have much more to say about it, but don't want to bore everyone more than I am already. In a year of forgetable CGI spectacles, this is the one I will remember.

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 3:15 p.m. CST


    by Strabo

    Any chance you saw Capote, Kung Fu Hustle, Pride and Prejudice, 2046, or Broken Flowers? Also...what's "Nobelity"? Oh, I get to start the real flame war....NO SERENITY?

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 3:16 p.m. CST

    sith did have this one line of dialogue going for it:

    by mocky_puppet

    sam jackson: "Master Yoda should take a detachment of clone troopers to assist the Wookiees on Kashyyyk." I laughed so hard that the rental price was justified right there. It almost sounds like a haiku. So terrible.

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 3:23 p.m. CST

    Citizen Arcane

    by one9deuce

    I have a crisp $100 bill to send you if Revenge of the Sith wins the Academy Award for Best Visual Effects over King Kong. It WILL NOT HAPPEN. There is not one thing in ROTS that looked real to me. Not one backround, not one character (Yoda almost on the Tantive IV), not one vehicle, not one creature. Nothing. It looked like an animated film. King Kong himself looked as real as possible. This has nothing to do with my preference of either film. ROTS is just as horrible as the other two prequels, and I think KK was disappointing. Best Achievment in Visual Effects 2005 goes to.......envelope please, KING KONG! You know it's true.

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 3:25 p.m. CST

    Sympathy For Lady Vengeance not exactly too obscure...

    by JudgeNXcutioner

    if they had showed it at BNAT and something most likely gonna be stamped with QT's name when released stateside. was referring to something maybe like that korean war movie that topped or was near top of the list last year. Oh and i'm guessing Father Geek didn't see Old Boy in the theatre either

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 3:31 p.m. CST

    Episode !!! was a terrible movie, deal with it

    by IndustryKiller

    It was and will be remembered as awful along with the rest of the prequels, and this is coming from a hardcore fan.

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 3:36 p.m. CST

    In Order! (FUCK)

    by johnhawks

    1) Me and You And Everyone We Know 2) Thumbsucker 3) Crash 4) The Squid and The Whale 5) Jarhead 6) Cache 7) Lord Of War 8) Capote 9) Downfall 10) Cinderella Man I guess I'm just the kind of person that disagrees with Father Geek on every level.

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 3:40 p.m. CST

    Did anyone else stop reading as soon as they saw AEON FLUX liste

    by zikade zarathos

    There's no accounting for taste. YEEEASSSHH! My own list? Oh, certainly.... 1) NEW WORLD 2) KING KONG 3) MINDGAME 4) a buncha others.

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 3:41 p.m. CST

    the last hour of SITH.......

    by sparticusmaximus

    is more emotional than the cloud city scenes in EMPIRE. Yep, I said it.

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 3:42 p.m. CST

    Me You and Etc.

    by potvsktl

    Holy crap was that a retarded movie.

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 3:43 p.m. CST

    Old Boy, Ong Bak, Kung Fu Hustle...

    by fathergeek

    They are all on previous years lists... I saw Old Boy 2 years before it was ever released here, saw it before it was released in Korea or at Cannes. Haven't seen Capote, New World, Broken Flowers, or Memoirs yet... when I do they may well push things off the list resulting in Sith ending up even further from top 10 statis. Note LADY VENGENCE is by the director of OLD BOY

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 3:51 p.m. CST

    AEON FLUX better than SITH?

    by Krinkle

    Doubt it.

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 3:52 p.m. CST

    is V for Vendetta really that good fathergeek?

    by William Cutting

    the trailers didnt make it look anything special. interesting...

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 3:53 p.m. CST

    Doesn't matter when you saw it. Movie is considered by the y

    by Orionsangels

    Just because you got lucky and got to see it in 2005. Don't act like it's a 2005 film. When we haven't even seen it. How dare you mr. geek. Take back your number 1. V for Vendetta is a 2006 film! I have spoken, not very well, but I have spoken nonetheless

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 3:54 p.m. CST

    What's "statis?

    by Spaz Medicine

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 3:55 p.m. CST


    by fathergeek

    is a documentry, they finally have a distributer sooooo look for it near college campuses and on the arthouse circut. Dont miss it, its a real eye-opener.

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 3:55 p.m. CST

    Father Geek, how bout a review of V for Vendetta

    by Killgore

    Come on, you know we are dieing for it.

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 3:55 p.m. CST

    Good call on "Good Night..." GODDAMIT I WANT TO SEE V!!

    by IAmJack'sUserID

    Remember, remember the 17th of March.

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 4:01 p.m. CST

    worst film of the year=sith

    by wildingb

    Can people stop saying that the sith was in any way a good film. It would come at the bottom of my list of films, it was laughably bad. In fact, the audience in my theatre were in hysterics every time there was 'romantic' dialogue. So bad It would have been better had boll directed and rob schneider played anakin.

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 4:03 p.m. CST

    Sorry Sparticus Maximus but

    by castaway

    The only time ROTS showed good emotion was Obi-Wan's improptu requiem....THAT WAS ALL. I still love Star Wars like a fat kid loves cake but Padme turning into a pussy little piss-ant (sp) with her whole you're breaking my heart line. You want a better version? How about this, Padme raises a gun to shoot at Anakin with tears in her eyes, Anakin feels her turns around a locks eyes with her. After a few words are exchanged Anakin uses the Force to psychically force her to put the gun to her own head (he just figures he can save the baby, and he kills her because he feels betrayed). What else, the opening space battle was the fakest-looking in the entire series, the depth thing that was used was neat but that's it. Oh yeah, and The Matrix, while being about as derivative as Star Wars is, was INFINITELY more imaginative (or maybe I'm thinking clever) than the prequel trilogy could ever hope to be. General Grievous was a wasted opportunity, most of the deaths were contrived and most of the characters that died went out like punks. Ultimately, I preferred AOTC as the best of the prequels.

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 4:04 p.m. CST

    He picked a movie as the best movie of 2005 that won't come

    by Orionsangels

    What are you gonna pick next year as your top film. The same movie? I guess you can do this because you're ahead of the game, whateva

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 4:06 p.m. CST

    Sympathy for Lady-V


    I can't wait to own this. Man this movie screws with you.

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 4:07 p.m. CST

    How could you not like Sith??? Mark my words - One day you will

    by Orionsangels

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 4:12 p.m. CST

    Question: Was Sith a good movie?

    by spikeandjezebel

    Answer: "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!"

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 4:18 p.m. CST

    More to say...

    by castaway

    Usually, when a movie goes through 10 or 11 scriptwriters there's a good chance it will suck. Not so with George Lucus. The original trilogy is proof positive that it is not always the case. Plus, people quit bitching about release dates. Most of the Oscar whore movies that come out in December don't get released to the general public till January or February of the next year. If you have that much of a problem with it, then consider the next movie after V that came out this year to be his pick for the best. I have similar experience, technically The Virgin Suicides came out in 1999 at a film festival but I like where it is on my 2000 list (#2 behind Requiem For A Dream). Oh yeah, loved the War of the Worlds remake, and kinda liked Aeon Flux outside of certain slow scenes and that spinal implant thing she uses to talk to her friend in her head near the end of the movie (it just felt like a gdaget that was thrown in at the absolute last second). Kong was so easily better than ROTS. Kong I can forgive because he is a dumb animal, Anakin on the other the character but he deserves more than just getting turned into a human charcoal briquette (sp).

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 4:19 p.m. CST


    by Strabo

    Thanks for the update!

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 4:20 p.m. CST

    Danny The Dog = Unleased

    by kentrel

    I'm surprised to see Unleashed score so highly on your list. It never really got much love from the people I know, but they're not martial arts fans like me. I liked it a lot. Its Jet Li's strongest English language film. I know that's not saying much, since they've all sucked until now. Maybe one day he'll do a US\UK film that is as strong as Fist of Legend, Hero or Once Upon A Time In China. This isn't it.. It's pretty damn good for a western martial arts movie, and the fights in it are fantastic to watch. Hopefully, this is a step forward for Li. Glad you liked it

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 4:23 p.m. CST

    Chan-wook Park owns my ass

    by CuervoJones

    Lady Vengeance rules

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 4:34 p.m. CST

    one9deuce, you're basing your opinion of FX based on what wi

    by Citizen Arcane

    Well then yeah, Titanic and Forrest Gump were the best films of their year. I'll readily admit that Kong himself looked great. If everything else didn't suck ass then I'd concede tht it had better FX than ROTS, which actually created 4 or 5 new worlds and made them look real.

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 4:35 p.m. CST

    Sith doesn't even deserve to be in the 30's

    by rivercb

    I couldn't even bother to see it in theaters, caught it on dvd. My last Prequel theater memory will be when Attack of the Clones ended and one guy clapped to awkward silence. Bravo

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 4:35 p.m. CST

    The Devil's Rejects

    by zooch

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 4:39 p.m. CST

    Sith was a good movie, just because you've programed yoursel

    by Orionsangels

    I programed myself to like SW? If that was true I'd be bored when watching the prequels, but i'm not because I'm an imaginative thinker while watching the SW prequels. I think the movie through logically. I accept the way the galaxy was then, with monotone sounding jedi's and the colorful rich world that'll become the junky world of the original films. Why can't anyone else do this? What do you gain by hating these films? They're actually good if you see them in the right context, but you won't dp that. You want great storytelling and acting. Well we can't have everything we want can we? Who wasn't excited during Sith when they kill all the jedi, from then on the movie rocked. it was so moving, but the bandwagon of naysayers have put a blacklabel on the prequels. So they're taboo to like, wtf people. It won't hurt you to like the SW prequels. Accept them and stop hurting yourselves!

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 4:44 p.m. CST

    What's the - Bravo - for? YES! SW sucks, my dream has come

    by Orionsangels

    Does it feel good to hate SW? I can't imagine that. Do you think by now liking the new SW you hurt Lucas in some way? Because you don't. You only hurt yourself. This late 90's early 21st century SW Backlash is wrong! I ran out of things to say, so repond and feed me! feed me bitches! give me the fuel baby!

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 4:44 p.m. CST

    I'm so fucking glad i genuinely loved rots.

    by Colonel_Blimp

    and nothing you tossers say can change that. why is it so inconcieveable to imagine someone liking something you didnt? you guys are pathetic for still going on about how much you hated it. the cgi was flat! the opening battle was the worst ever! the entire audience laughed! (there's the winner of objective tb statement of the year award...) boohoo. and father geek: how was hitchiker's guide one of the best films of last year?

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 4:46 p.m. CST

    now = not

    by Orionsangels

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 4:46 p.m. CST

    The point is that anyone who puts Aeon Flux and Land of the Dead

    by Citizen Arcane

    Hate on Lucas and Star Wars all you want but come on.

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 4:46 p.m. CST

    Kong was good Flippy!

    by Orionsangels

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 4:49 p.m. CST

    Aeon Flux??? A Woman had hands for feet in that movie, people! T

    by Orionsangels

  • Truer words have never been spoken by a prequel fan.

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 5:06 p.m. CST

    My top movies I've seen in 2005

    by chrth

    1. Serenity 2. Return of the Sith 3. Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire. Ok, so I'm a DVD bitch and avoid paying the usurious movie chains. Sue me.

  • Funny, the original trilogy did that in spades, why couldn't the prequels? Oh and by the way they do have medication for those with delusional problems.

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 5:07 p.m. CST

    "why is it so inconcieveable to imagine someone liking something

    by Bass Ackwards

    Well I think this question should go the other way around, since the reason we're talking about Ep III is cause of the people who can't seem to allow for the possibility that someone doesn't like Star Wars as much as them.

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 5:11 p.m. CST

    ROTS - Top Ten Of 2005

    by Mako

    Kiss that statement you wankers. Sith was awesome. Only the mold in your butter agrees with you. Or the other SW haters that waste their time bitching about a movie they can only dream of making. So sad for you.

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 5:13 p.m. CST

    Twilight Zone

    by Rock Icon

    I can't imagine the world where Aeon Flux was better than Revenge of the Sith (or War of the Worlds for that matter).

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 5:17 p.m. CST

    I can't believe the anti-HG venom

    by chrth

    I trust his judgement over the lot of a bunch of anonymous talkbackers. P.S. Apologies for saying Return instead of Revenge.

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 5:18 p.m. CST

    "Funny, the original trilogy did that in spades"

    by Ingeld

    But I was going to the Toshi Station to pick up some power converters! Do I even have to mention the Ewoks?

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 5:18 p.m. CST

    Ack, and of course I meant anti-FG, not HG

    by chrth

    *sigh* not a good day for the Human Machine Interface

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 5:35 p.m. CST



    All three of the prequel's were shit end of story and sith is really no better than the other two in any way. Grevious whilst looking the bollocks spoilt it every time he opened his trap, he sounded a right cock. Same for the hard core looking battle droids who sounded an awful lot like Daffy Duck, come on man they look mean but all creditbility was completely lost. What's with the two Jedi's who turn up with Mace to arrest Palpatine, I could have put up a better fight and my Midiwhater the fuck it is level is near non existant. It's woeful direlouge is painful. It's so unrealistic, I mean how could any woman put up with such a whiny little prick and your telling me he becomes vader the most powerful man in the galaxy, blowing up planets and shit cos he got jealous over some bird, please i ask you. Then of course the laugh out loud moment where Ani is in bits after the duel and the best he can come out with is "I Hate you" I'd expect worse from a kid being sent to his room. Awful Awful Awful. It's best that if you love the originals that you pretend episodes 1 2 & 3 don't exist. Father Geek was right to exclude this rubbish from his list of the years best. Kong is a far superior movie in every way, but i expect this from a superior film maker. Kong was a movie made with love and had heart. Star wars is a gravy train and nothing more for Lucus and it gave true fans nothing. What really hurts is this is the best he could deliver after having us wait some 20 odd years for it. Other best films this year were sin city, kiss kiss bang bang, war of the worlds, Batman, sideways, Serenity (A Real Space Movie), World police, Green Street & Mr & Mrs Smith. Unfortunately Living in England we are yet to get certain movies, yet I'm sure brokeback and Jarhead are worthy contenders. Kong is King & Play Up Pompey. xxxx

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 5:50 p.m. CST

    Ignore ME? Why?

    by Krinkle

    My little post gets flamed? Jeez. For what it's worth, here's my top ten for '05 1) GRIZZLY MAN 2) HISTORY OF VIOLENCE 3) REVENGE OF THE SITH 4) MATCH POINT 5) THE NEW WORLD 6) NO DIRECTION HOME 7) CORPSE BRIDE 8) BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN 9) CINDERELLA MAN 10) DUMA

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 6:02 p.m. CST


    by Turd Furgeson

    Come on, The fucking Dukes Of Hazzard was better than ROTS!!! If that movie were a continuation to any other franchise, it wouldn't have made a nickel. It sucked that bad! Lucas made another terrible movie, here's my surprised face..... BTW, Nice list Harry.

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 6:10 p.m. CST


    by BannedOnTheRun

    Someone tell Vern he's allowed to carry nail clippers on a commercial flight again.

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 6:18 p.m. CST


    by Uncle_Les

    Asshats. It made two people I was with cry, one of which a very fucking cynical prequel-hater. And yeah, it ain't perfect: when Anakin and Padm

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 6:22 p.m. CST

    Yikes, Castaway!!

    by monorail77

    You think having Padme pull a gun and then having Anakin force her to shoot herself would have been an IMPROVEMENT?? Um, we'll agree to diagree on that suggestion. I'm pleased that you were not involved with ROTS script or story development. That said, I agree Grievous was a wasted opportunity. He should have been kickass, and just wasn't. At all.

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 6:31 p.m. CST

    how/why is Gus Van Rant still posting?

    by Chief Redcock

    didn't he get banned? is this like the second coming of christ or something? dammit. i thought all of the tony danza/blumpkin jokes were mine now...

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 6:31 p.m. CST

    Poopflingerzaius, on "A History of Violence"

    by monorail77

    You are exactly, exactly right about "A History of Violence". It was so somber in tone, and the acting so serious. The angst by the son, and the heart wrenching the wife goes through. Its like Chronenberg was asking us to take what happens to the characters seriously, like it would illuminate the human condition, or something. But the whole premise was just so ass-stupid. The whole thing was so unlikely that treating it so seriously was just a big mis-step. It should have been a gritty, revenge style movie. One of theose "ya, I got out, but ya never really get out, gotta go back for one more time" kinda things. Like "Sext Beast" or something, ya know?

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 6:40 p.m. CST

    BADBOYBROM, when you learn to speak our language, then you will

    by Citizen Arcane

    But thankfully you're free to do so now, even if your opinion is bullshit.

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 6:47 p.m. CST


    by fiester

    When that movie first came out you were raving, calling it one of the best movies you've ever seen. Now it barely cracks the top 25. What changed, eh?

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 6:56 p.m. CST

    Oh my!

    by Incomplete Gamer

    Sorry, but I completely lost interest the moment I saw Aeon Flux on the list. Good god.

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 6:57 p.m. CST

    Batman Begins was the best film of 2005 (in MY humble opinion)

    by Judas Booth

    There were many good films, including some that are out now that I assume are good (they've got enough good press that I'd probably like them), but the best that I actually SAW was Batman Begins. It was so amazing to see Batman finally done exactly right. I've recommended it to countless people who had no intention of seeing it but trusted my advice on it...and they've all been surprised at just how good it is. This is a movie that will truly stand the test of time and will only get better. So there.

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 7:13 p.m. CST

    Moviemack - Contrary to Your Contrariness

    by The Colonel

    Crash is the most overrated movie of the year. Aside, perhaps, from King Kong.

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 7:52 p.m. CST

    It's so cool not to like "Star Wars"

    by Sro100

    Thank God Harry and his fucking Father Geek can never praise "Star Wars" but get wet over "Brokeback Mountain." How cool.

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 8:02 p.m. CST

    OMG. I've only seen 7 of those so far.

    by RowanM

    Still waiting on some of the others. Kiss Kiss Bang Bang is one of my favourites for this year so far. I missed a chance to see Danny The Dog/Unleashed. Eagerly awaiting V for Vendetta, Munich and Good Night and Good Luck. I found Hitchhikers to be very boring.

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 8:11 p.m. CST

    Yo monorail77

    by castaway

    Thanks for the critique, I just felt that I should have at least suggested something instead of just constantly saying it sucks. Like I would have even been let near the script. Part of the reason the prequels mostly suck is because Lucus wanted to do it all himself. He did say in the past that he had asked Ron Howard to do Ep 2 and Steven Speilberg to do Ep 3 but they both refused because they were intimidated by what they felt was the sheer enormity (sp) of the request. Still though, that whole line Lucus fed reviewers ("this has all been in my head for the past 20 years! I swear!")was pure unadulterated bullshit. He might have had the blueprint but he didn't have the4 feeling.

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 8:15 p.m. CST

    Moviemack - I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on Batma

    by Judas Booth

    Everybody gets something different out of every movie. Sorry you didn't care for Batman...Me, I think the most overrated movies of all time are the Shrek movies...I CAN'T FUCKING STAND THEM, yet everyone thinks they're just awesome. Please, shoot me in the head before you force me to watch a Shrek 3.

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 8:25 p.m. CST

    Interesting That Serenity And ROTS Are Not On The List

    by Captain Sulu

    Can this be what finally unites the Star Wars and Whedon fans?

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 8:27 p.m. CST

    Hey Ingeld

    by castaway

    Yeah Ingeld, 2 lines of semi-crappy dialogue compared to most of the rest which is gold and the 80 percent suckage factor of the prequels' dialogue. Oh and as for the Ewoks, I'll gladly take unintelligible gibbering of an alien species over the stupid wisecracks of the super battledroids. Makes me want to buy 2 bumper stickers for my car. One would say "Super Battledroids Do Not Wisecrack." The other one would be "Just Say No To Bullet Time Knives" (from V For Vendetta).

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 8:32 p.m. CST

    When I learn the Language?


    I Think Star Wars Episode 3 sucks shit in any Language in any Galaxy far far away as well as this one. Thank good we don't need to endure anymore of this garbage, as they were totally bogus dude. Just leave me with the original 3 movies without the tinkering and I will be happy. Should apply to most true star wars fans to. x

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 8:43 p.m. CST

    Regarding the Star Wars bashing

    by Judas Booth

    I don't have the hatred for Ep III that alot of you seem to have. It was ok...far better than the absolute shit that were eps I and II. I'm just sad that the prequels have tainted the cult that was Star Wars. Since 1983, Star Wars has had a special place in our culture. Since 1999, that place has disintegrated to the point that nobody really cares about Star Wars anymore. It's a shame that what was once revered has now become 'just another series of movies.' The mystique is gone. For me, the mystique left when those robots in Ep I started saying 'Roger Roger' all the time...I knew we were in fucking trouble.

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 8:52 p.m. CST

    episode three sarked balls

    by 81666

    and i have an open mind about shitty movies, it seems there's no inbetween with fans according to the die hard lucas cockguzzlers. ah well. the movie was flat, that shit needs to be a miniseries, not a movie, because it suffers from the cutting, and the acting, just bad. not horrendous, but still a pile of steaming shit. and a history of violence ws a b movie with good actors, it was fucking dumb. the only savior was the evil brother at the end, he redeemed that film for being so pointless.

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 9:16 p.m. CST

    Revenge Of The Sith

    by Lavaman

    Cut down Lucas's dialogue all you want, but anybody who says that the Visual Effects of Revenge Of The Sith is subpar, is being pretensious at best. Crawl out of your basements and seek fresh air.

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 9:16 p.m. CST

    Wish I could make a list like this

    by barryap

    But I'm trapped going to school in the hellhole that is North Philadelphia, so I don't get opportunities to see things in theaters that often. My list of movies I saw in theaters this year: 1. War of the Worlds. 2. Star Wars. 3. 40-year-old Virgin. And that's all I saw.

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 9:33 p.m. CST

    BB not even in the top 10?

    by Jack_Bauer

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 9:35 p.m. CST

    Judas Booth

    by Lavaman

    You say nobody cares about Star Wars anymore? ROTS made 900 million Worldwide. I would say people still care.

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 10:09 p.m. CST


    by Judas Booth

    People care enough to go out and see it once or twice...but will it stand the test of time the way that the original trilogy did? Those lasted from 1983 until 1997 untouched...14 years where they resonated culturally and took on a life of their own. Then, he tweaked them in 1997 and nobody could get past Greedo shooting first. Little did we know that Greedo shooting first would be the least of our worries. Sure, ROTS made money. I put down 17 bucks to see it twice. And I bought the dvd. That doesn't change the fact that the level of quality went down, tainting the whole saga.

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 10:14 p.m. CST

    The worst part in Ep III

    by Judas Booth

    You guys may complain about Vader's 'NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO', but the single worst part of Ep III is that fucking midwife robot at the end when Luke and Leia are getting keeps going 'ooooba, ooooba' while cuddling the babies. Please, kill me now. That's worse than any crappy piece of robot dialog. End of rant...I still enjoyed the movie for what it was.

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 10:18 p.m. CST

    If you knew anything about SW ,BADBOYBROM. You'd know the re

    by Orionsangels

    He clouded their minds with the darkside. Leaving them in a trance like state for a second or two. Enough time for Palps to strike. You have to remember these Jedi are good, but have never encountered a Sith Lord. They're not ready for this battle. Although they have intelligent superior Jedi minds. To a Sith Lord like Palpatine. They're weak minded. Easy to control. Except Mace Windu of course, who goes far beyond the normal Jedi. Same with Yoda. It also explains why Dooku can defeat Obi-Wan more easily than Anakin. Obi-Wan fought Darth Maul, but he was no where near the level of Palpatine and Dooku. Obi-Wan is not ready to battle a Sith like Dooku. A Sith like Dooku can easily cloud Obi-Wan's mind. Anakin on the other hand has a lot of hate flowing thru him. Rather then be taken by the darkside. He unknowingly embraces the darkside. Dooku can feel it, thats why he gets that scared look towards the end. Palpatine also senses the hate in Anakin. So he exploits that to benefit his cause. Which is the Sith getting Revenge. See, if you haters knew all this. You'd understand that everything in SW can be explained.

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 10:46 p.m. CST

    I have a solution to Vaders 'NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO'

    by Orionsangels

    When you'rewatching the DVD right before Vader screams 'NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO'switch to Spanish or French Audio. Spanish guy does it good, but French guy says 'NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO' the best. It's how it should have sounded in the movie.

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 10:50 p.m. CST

    Star Wars lives

    by Lavaman

    I agree that the Prequels do not stand up to the Original Trilogy, but I still enjoyed them. Star Wars is alive and doing quite well.

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 10:53 p.m. CST


    by one9deuce

    You wrote: "See, if you haters knew all this. You'd understand that everything in SW can be explained." I think the word you are looking for is "defended".

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 11:02 p.m. CST

    I have no problem with the Noooooo! line

    by Lavaman

    It is fucking laughable how people keep obsessing how bad the Noooooo! line supposedly was. The detractors were just desperate to find something negative in ROTS, just like Jar Jar in TPM, and the couch scene in AOTC. This is the best they can come up with to say ROTS sucks?

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 11:03 p.m. CST

    4 of the top 5 in the past 2 weeks?!

    by Cletus Van Damme

    I think someone just lacks long-term memory.

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 11:27 p.m. CST

    I'm ok with fooling myself that the prequels were good. I ac

    by Orionsangels

    No matter how many wooden actors occupy it. It's unconditional love

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 11:38 p.m. CST

    I think the moment when most people realized that the Star Wars

    by Thirteen 13

    And the prequel apologists began their long road of denial, was that scene back at the beginning of Phantom Menace...the moment where Ben and Qai Gon and Jar Jar arrived at that lake in the Naboo forest. And that dumber than dogshit Jar Jar dived in the water...but he didn't just dive in. Oh no no no. Lucas would have none of that. Jar Jar had to jump up, do 5 twirly twirls, 4 back flips, 3 front flips and a half gainer all in mid-air along with some stupid happy noise before finally splashing into the water. It was at that moment where I, and many others , groaned and just knew that these prequels are really going to suck and suck hard. I wish anybody but Lucas would have made those prequels.

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 11:41 p.m. CST


    by Lavaman

    I hear ya Orionsangels. I agree.

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 11:47 p.m. CST

    I really envy that some of you guys can enjoy it so much

    by rivercb

    I wish I could just wish away my feelings, but I can't. Sorry, I couldn't resist that. I'm still keeping my millenium falcon ship though.

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 11:52 p.m. CST

    The 2

    by Darth Maui

    The only people I know who didn't like Sith are AICN talkbackers. Every person I know outside of AICN who saw it liked it.

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 11:52 p.m. CST

    I really envy that some of you guys can enjoy it so much

    by rivercb

    I wish I could just wish away my feelings, but I can't. Sorry, I couldn't resist that. I'm still keeping my millenium falcon though. Han, I love you so much I could even watch you make out with Jake Gyllenhaal on a horse.

  • Dec. 22, 2005, 11:57 p.m. CST

    If I'm in denial I don't wanna not be in denial. If it m

    by Orionsangels

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 12:02 a.m. CST

    Since we're doing the list thing...

    by Serious Black

    ...1. SERENITY. 2. BATMAN BEGINS. 3. ROTS. Nothing else I saw this year really stuck with me, including BORE OF THE WORLDS. MR. AND MRS. SMITH was okay but I was expecting to see more orangutan sex. I agree with whoever said A HISTORY OF VIOLENCE is decent but overrated and too ridiculous at the end. And I agree with whoever said HITCHHIKER'S GUIDE stinks worse than a dripping bag of post-Mexican diarrhea. Still waiting to find out what 'statis' is.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 12:02 a.m. CST

    as time goes on, epIII will have less and less of a good standin

    by Freakemovie

    We all might as well face the fact that it sucked right off the bat. It was the least bad of the prequels, but c'mon. The early reviews for EpII said the same thing: Lucas had fixed his mistakes and gone back to making great sci-fi adventures again. No, sorry. All three prequels were disappointments. Lucas has turned into a special-effects whore hack. It's one of the saddest things to ever happen to a filmmaker, but it's true. I mean the guy went on the fuckin' sets of both Gangs of New York and Narnia and all he could do was complain that they should've used CGI. Repeat viewings of EpIII, like II and I before it, will reveal it to be in the same exact league as those films. The original trilogy -- don't give me that i-hate-ewoks-blah-blah sob story about how Sith is supposedly better than Jedi -- are so much ridiculously better than the new trilogy.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 12:14 a.m. CST

    Actually the prequels will be liked more as time goes on. Becaus

    by Orionsangels

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 12:17 a.m. CST

    Still no love for Grannies and Trannies 7?

    by Alonzo Mosely

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 12:22 a.m. CST


    by bib fortuna

    I like the language idea. On my copy of 1989's Batman, I watch the first scene in French. Nothing funnier than seeing Bats grab that thug by the neck and say "Je suis Batman!" classic. BTW, for all the people with too much free time, there's no point trying to tell me that ROTS sucked, and I won't try to tell you it was good. Leave it alone already.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 12:24 a.m. CST

    I'm not sure where people get that those of us who didn'

    by IndustryKiller

    I love Star Wars. The original trilogy are my favorite films of all time. The prequels are bad films. Bad dialogue, acting, editing, directing, space battles, and fight sequences (disclaimer: the Darth Maul fight is amazing, the Yoda Ep2 fight is arguable, the rest are atrocious like Palpatine vs. Windu, or boring and uninspired like Anakin vs. Obi Wan) If you like the prequels, I'm hapy that you are easily entertained. I tried to like them but I don't. I've given it a lot of thought and have very credible arguments for my position. And since the prequels are universally known as horrible films I know I'm not off base.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 12:26 a.m. CST

    OrionsAngel typically no matter what the fan base terrible films

    by IndustryKiller

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 12:32 a.m. CST

    Ep III sucks from the point

    by DinoBass

    when the droid backtalks Grievous (sp?). Way to try and insert a joke that is 1) stupid and 2) sells out your villain. Also, did anyone else get a jolt from the REAL set of the interior of Organa's ship, that served to drive home the point of how cartoony all the digital sets looked?

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 12:45 a.m. CST


    by Lavaman

    Speaking for all of us now, are you IndustryKiller!? I was there at the beginning, in 1977 bub. I can speak for my self.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 12:50 a.m. CST

    The prize for SW Fan trying to reconcile the prequels and the OT

    by DinoBass

    Obi-Swan. It's not really an apology or a defense of the prequels, but more of a way to create continuity. Still, the fact that he spent the time to think this up cracks me up. Anyway, Obi-Swan said that to explain how Yoda is CGI in the prequels and a puppet in the OT, the Emperor should have hit CGI Yoda with a force lightning blast so powerful it turns him into the puppet. That scene would have been the funniest shit ever! Especially because I imagine Lucas thinking "Great, that continuity problem solved". Maybe it's just me, but God Bless Obi-Swan and hardcore SW fans everywhere!

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 12:53 a.m. CST

    The List

    by uberman

    WAR OF THE WORLDW, for me, is still number 1 of all the films I saw this year, but THIS YEAR IS NOT YET OVER. I still have to see Syrianna and Munich. You know what doesnt make myt list? HISTORY OF VIOLENCE- SUCKED ASS! and was sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo stttttuuuuuuuuuuuupppppppppppppppiiiiiiiiiiiiddddddddddddddd. It really really was bad all around, predictable and man, if 'married' people act like the Ozzy and Harriet of this film...the director must never have been married. I could do a whole review on that-I was expecting big things, but boy was I wrong. You know what I knew would blow chunks but ended up being pretty damn impressive, fresh and totally rocked? HOUSE OF WAX. Dont believe the hype-rent it, even with skanky Hilton, rent it. REVENGE OF THE SITH? Shit fest to the Nth degree-worst of the lot cause even the stupid movies have people acting and not just reading truly cringe inspiring dialog. BATMAN BEGINS? Pretty decent entertainment. FANTASTIC FOUR? Not as bad as you have heard-a mild amusement. SKELETON KEY? Great movie, great plot twist. Rent it. LAND OF THE DEAD? Shit Fest to the Nth degree.SIN CITY? Pretty decent flick. Rent it. THE DEVILS REJECTS? Great filmaking, gross more than anything and not in a gory way, but in a snotty, dirty, grimy kinda way. Rent it. What else was there? KING KONG-great flick. Go see it.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 12:59 a.m. CST

    my list... for anyone who gives 2 shits.

    by MaulRat

    I know this is sort of a pussies way to do it, but here's a top 25 in no particular order... Batman Begins, Sin City, Syriana, Narnia, Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, the 40 Yo virgin, Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire, King Kong, Corpse Bride, History of Violence, Matchpoint, SW:ROTS, Serenity, Revolver, Memois of a Geisha, Kung Fu Hustle, Elizabethtown, Walk the Line, the Interpreter, Goodnight and Goodluck, Constantine, the Brothers Grimm, the constant gardener, Hitchhikers guide to the galaxy, Red Eye..... huh... I guess it is sort of in order now that I look at it... well that was fun... lets do this again next year.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 1:04 a.m. CST

    the Internet

    by Lavaman

    Of course we didn't have the Internet back in the late 70's/early 80's, to tell us that the Original Trilogy actually sucked. Happy times those days were.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 1:32 a.m. CST

    The best thing you can say about most talkbackers?

    by IndustryKiller

    Is that there is no accounting for taste. God I remember when this site wasn't filled with apologists who attempted to explain away all the unexplainable bullshit awful movies contain with one ridiculous leap of logic after the next. Happy times those days were.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 2:32 a.m. CST

    Excellent list, Father Geek!

    by Robogeek

    Thanks for taking the time to do this. (I think your top ten/fifteen in particular is a really, really solid list.) Have a very merry Christmas!

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 2:37 a.m. CST

    no SITH?

    by Hideo Kojima

    I call shenanigans...

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 2:39 a.m. CST

    FX Oscar

    by Darth Twoface

    King Kong himself was awesome, I agree, but the Compositing in King Kong looked so fake, it destroyed the Movie.... That's why Ep3 looked more believable..

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 2:58 a.m. CST

    Hey Moviemack - "It's possible that SUPERMAN RETURNS will en

    by Thirteen 13

    Not likely?. Superman Returns has had a shorter teaser trailer than both Batman Begins and Kong put together for there teaser trailers, and your already saying "not likely". No bias there huh. Just make sure your buddies -Hypeendshere- and -Ringbearer 9- don't read your post. They are counting on you to join them and follow the schedule to start bashing Superman in early Feburary and call every single good review it gets a plant.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 3:54 a.m. CST

    aeon flux and war of the worlds?!!! wtf

    by Spacesheik

    father geek im shocked!!!! did you enjoy when tom threw the peanut butter sandwich at the wall also? war of the worlds was abysmal mate - a bastard child of 'mars attacks' and 'the day after tommorow' with a cliched terrible last 1/3.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 5:09 a.m. CST

    K O N G

    by board shitlez

    Is a dreadful film. Bloated, self indulgent drivel - with an impressive special effect ape. Tired. The fetish for effects can be seen in that Naomi Watts appears to have special powers when she juggles. Is it beyond the realms of possibility that one scene could exist without a digital effect? All it served to do was make me not believe she was a struggling actress. It reminded me I was watching that lazy film again. I've got a special effect for you - it's called pace.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 6:01 a.m. CST

    My thoughts take them or leave them.

    by Aves

    Hey to you all you pretentious, idiotic, movie critic wannabe nerds. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A PERFECT MOVIE!!!!! Revenge of the Sith was a great movie that was thought well enough of by the viewing public to be the top-grossing movie of the year. I saw it twice. I thought some of the dialogue was weak, but all in all a great movie. You freaks nitpick and whine because you have nothing better to do with your pathetic lives. Batman Begins? a great movie, my personal favorite of 2005, but I didn't like some of the edits in the fight scenes and Alfred calling Bruce "sir" every five minutes got on my nerves, but hey I still loved the flick. I could down the list of every movie I saw this year and nitpick what I did and didn't like, but the post is long enough as it is. Personally I only saw about five or six movies in Father Geek's list that I even agree with, but it's his list not mine. On another note, if you found out you killed your wife and you woke up in a metal suit with fake legs how would you respond? "Oh dear she's dead whatever shall I do?" Hell no you'd do the exact same thing Darth did. What many of you fail to realize is that he had been wearing the suit for like five seconds, and he had yet to become the evil, unfeeling, bad-ass that we all love to hate. He was still dealing with the conflict, the evil he had accepted, and inside that suit he was angry, scared, and in agony from the death of his wife, the death he caused, so tell me what should have said? You jerks think you know it all, so please enlighten me.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 6:31 a.m. CST

    Here's an idea Moviemack

    by Aves

    Shut the hell up until you see the freaking movie!!!!!!!!!! I admit I don't have high hopes for Superman Returns myself, but I am willing to reserve final judgement until I see it. Your posts are the most useless crap on this website and trust me that is saying something because there is a lot of useless crap on this site.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 8:06 a.m. CST


    by Evil Chicken

    ROTS. I was infatuated with it. I was in love with the idea of loving it, caught up in the moment. It is the strongest in the prequel trilogy but it is not a great story. Oh sure the stunts and lightsabers are wonderful but it is really not a great film. Am I saddened that there will be no more Star Wars on the big screen?

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 8:30 a.m. CST

    Kudos Harry...

    by Cat_Corporation

    ...for putting Lady Vengeance at number 2. I saw it at the London Film Festival (and reviewed it for this site!) and now, after a couple of months distance, I've decided it really is a great, tragic movie. As for the inclusion of Aeon must be a Charlize thing, right?

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 8:39 a.m. CST

    me like this is an honest list

    by BDT

    But I haven't seen a few on this list... however, here are two I would have put on here in place of the one's I haven't seen: Everything is Illuminated and Millions. (I loved House of Flying Daggers, too, but cannot remember if that was this year or last year). Anyway, I am kind of disappointed that there was very little on this site about Everything is Illuminated and Millions. They are similar films in that they are storytelling films. They are not fast-paced action films. They let the facts unfold and you get pieces of the story as the protagonists do. They are both films that use the quirkiness of human nature to speak about loss and hope and add whimisical and funny moments. These films are gems and deserve a second look for anyone who missed them in the theaters. I also love the music for both movies and have the Everything is Illuminated CD and bought the Muse CD and other songs from the Millions Soundtrack. Other than that, I love the sincerity of Fathergeek's list and some of the additions (in black), especially Strings, on the talkback...

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 9:20 a.m. CST

    HAHAHA I love the Sith apologists

    by IndustryKiller

    Watching them make these arcane associations to convince themselves that it was a good movie (it is in fact not even the best of the prequels) is the best show in town. I've never actually heard anyone try to justify the "NOOOOOOOO" though. That's comedy gold. Oh and anyone who hates the prequels "hates Star Wars" riiiiiight. Hahaha what a bunch of cards.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 9:24 a.m. CST

    Moviemack: "Overrated" Clarification

    by The Colonel

    The only place Batman Begins is truly overrated is in the FanBoy world. You won't see it on any, or more than a handful, of critics Best Of lists. And fanboys overrate EVERYTHING, it's the nature of the beast. But Kong and Crash (which, I took from your post above, you admire) will both be on a ton of Top Ten lists, and that is a load of nonsense. The amount of praise Kong is getting is understandable due to the pedigree of its creators and the subject matter, but it's overdone and bloated and tiresome. And the source of Crash's adoration is also obvious, since no liberal critic (read: 95% of all critics) in his right mind would be caught dead not singing the praises of a movie decrying racism, even though the movie is heavy-handed, insultingly blunt and has little or no relation to real life and the behavior of actual human beings whatsoever. Your opinion of Begins is well-documented, but I thought it was pretty good, minus: Katie Holmes, Ra's Al Ghul, the car chase and the last half hour. But it's not a top ten movie for anyone except the Geek Contingent. Those other movies will be praised up and down in the critical mainstream for the next 2 months and THAT is crap.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 9:54 a.m. CST


    by ashhole

    it's finally over. let the rest of the world get back to enjoying movies without you clowns bitching at each other about george fucking lucas. geezer geek gives a a personal opinion, gives you 25 OTHER movies to talk about, and you still can't leave it alone. fuck every single one of you on both sides, go cram your lightsabers far, far up your asses.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 10:37 a.m. CST

    Why 2005 was a bad year.

    by hallmitchell

    Box office was down. An absolute glut of bad movies. Stealth, Honeymooners, list goes on. Alot of sequels and remakes even if I did enjoy a few of them. Want to see some risk taking, ball grabbing movies. Nothing really went boom. Like a fareneheit 911 or a blair witch or Saw. Something that comes out of nowhere and is a hit. 40 year old virgin was good, not alot of comedy.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 10:42 a.m. CST


    by Spacesheik

    most of the crap was from sony belive it or not

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 11:09 a.m. CST



  • Dec. 23, 2005, 11:11 a.m. CST


    by challabuck

    Hey Daddy Geek: The fact that Serenity is not on there (and Flucks is) means only one thing -- you haven't seen it. Do yourself a flavor and see it so it can be properly placed in the top ten. You have 8 days to amend it. Here's another list you can reference:

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 11:29 a.m. CST



    I'm sorry orionsangel but that don't cut the mustard for me. So am I to love highlander 2 etc or Police Academy 6 cos I loved the originals. Lucus spoilt star wars, is any true fan (which I am by the way) really happy with the new films, I doubt it. As for the Palpatine fight I dare say your clutching at straws but believe what you will. Your be telling me that Obi Wan got his memory wiped too as he can't recall the two droids who joined him on countless missions for some 15+ years. Hey don't you remember the droid who hung out with us who was built by Vader and saved our lives numerous times. Maybe I have got some facts wrong but I can't be arsed to watch the thing a second time. Another gripe is why did Lucus make the Star Wars Universe so god damn small. Duelling lightsabres, more like duelling Banjo's given the galaxy is so incesterous, has nobodies path not crossed before. I loved Star Wars all the way up to 1983 and that was that. The new ones were monsterous disappointments, get over it. This film doesn't belong on any best of list.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 12:17 p.m. CST

    _2046_ and _broken flowers_

    by duanejones

    take it from me, papa g. -- these were both better than _zyklon fux_ and _land of the lost_. i'd say waterboarding and do-it-yourself colostomies are better than these wearisome offerings, moreover. precisely where would anyone, uh, "go right" while watching mr. romero's worst film ever? (ok, second, after _two evil short films_) -- right on, ubermensch, on this point in particular. and, good lord, j.hawks, _miranda and you and everyone we despise for their cutesy preciousness_? that would be my #1 atrocity for the '05, just sneaking past the war on terror. we'll be seeing that on the, uh, bottom of a double bill with _showgirls_ for all eternity, or at least for as long as we have the courage to face their unbridled horror in the face of everything that's good, decent and markedly less self-absorbed. meanwhile, i remain haunted by both films noted in the subject, _2046_ being SO much superior to _in the mood for love_. and i walked out the theater feeling that _broken flowers_ was kinda anti-climatic, until i recalled that i felt that way about every jarmusch film since _dead man_, and all of those films remain lingering in my consciousness like a brief love affair i can't shake. _flowers_ continues this trend. reading pere geek's list does remind me, though, that '05 was not that bad a year for films, on balance.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 1:29 p.m. CST

    If you hated ROTS, you're not a Star Wars fan

    by darthflagg

    And that's a fact. The lengths some people go to bash the prequels (writing a 1000 word essay on every plot hole they've discovered) while giving a free pass to all the ridiculousness in films like King Kong (it was goood, but shooting bugs off someone's face with a tommy gun? Come on!) is hilarious. It just funny how sad the prequel bashers are. They hate Lucas and the films, but they can't stop obsessing over them.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 1:45 p.m. CST

    Wheres the love for Four Brothers?

    by Mits777

    That was easily fun and entertaining enough to be somewhere in the top 25. Sin City should win some kind of make up , costume, or set design award.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 2:57 p.m. CST

    "is any true fan (which I am by the way) really happy with the n

    by Colonel_Blimp

    That's a fucking arrogant statement. I can honestly say I truly, madly, deeply love RotS. It is so good, it gives added pathos to both the OT and the rest of the PT. Am I lying, badboybrom? Just because you're incapable of liking it doesnt mean everyone else is. btw, all my non-geek friends enjoyed it too. really. And while I dug Kong, and find Jackson an excellent filmmaker, he is not the god you guys make him out to be. Its just that he, unlike lucas, hides his sometimes flat direction behind slo-mo and a constantly moving camera. you amateurs just cant see past that. "oh, a tracking shot. what a brilliantly directed scene". and speaking of bad dialogue: the lines from the theater owner to ann in the beginning of kong was probably some of the worst exposition I've ever heard. And I've heard a lot. kong was still great though, despite its flaws.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 3:20 p.m. CST

    ROTS and Jackson

    by The Colonel

    Sith, as entertaining and enjoyable as many found it, doesn't belong anywhere near a Top Ten list. I liked it for what it was: the best prequel but not particularly good, even in the context of the OT, let alone film in general. As for Peter Jackson, I find the LOTR trilogy to be enjoyable but quite overrated and Kong to be bloated and tiresome even tho some sequences are undeniably enjoyable. I think some of the Jackson/Lucas comparisons are valid but nothing in Lucas' pre-Star Wars output compares to Jackson's best film, Heavenly Creatures, which shows his potential and ability as a non-blockbuster type director.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 3:53 p.m. CST

    Objectivly, the only good SW films were eps. 4 &5

    by LeFlambeur

    Everything else was weak. And this is coming from someone who LOVED episode III. Star Wars is really just a children's film everyone took way too seriously. That was what really killed Star Wars. Jar Jar didn't kill Star Wars, CGI didnt kill star wars, greedo shooting first didn't kill star wars, what killed star wars was the fact that people took it so seriously.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 5:47 p.m. CST


    by CJA

    I can never, ever, watch Batman Begins again simply because the ending has got to be up there with the worst 20 minutes of cinema I have ever seen. The climax was so messy that they obviously had to insert those two guys in the monitoring tower (or whatever it was, I was busy pounding my head on the seat in front of me) to narrate what exactly was going on: "oh no, a train is headed right to the heart of the city! if that hits the XXX we're all done for!". Don't even get me started on the utter stupidity of the big bad's motives. This film was on par with Doom for me.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 9:28 p.m. CST

    I Don't hate Ep 3, but.....


    Look the prequels could have been a thing of wonder but they were nothing more than below average movies, which really is a sin given the material and time Lucus had to give us something Fantastic. I'm just saying that all the things wrong with these movies leaves such a bitter taste that I can't take anything good from them. Exactly what is so wonderful about them, what is there to cherish. You say non geeks loved them but I don't know anyone who cares for them. I took a girl friend to see Ep 3 who hated it so much I couldn't get her to watch the original trilogy, and that hurt. The film is so lazy and I can't for the life of me just flow with it. I just can't buy the whole anakin going bad and just killing everyone at the click of the finger. Maybe the whole thing is for kids and the fact that I'm no longer 8 years of age means that sadly the whole thing is wasted on me. I simply can't like it by default. A shame, so very sad but alas so very true.

  • least Lucas takes risks. He creates his own Movie Universe, and then comes back years later(knowing that countless Star Wars fans have created their version of the Prequels in their heads), and gives us a Trilogy that has a different mood and Characters. Even though he knew fans would bitch because there was no Han Solo, or because there was too much Political intrigue. Say what you want about Lucas, but he is a true Story Teller.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 11:28 p.m. CST

    ROTS - Great Star Wars Film

    by Mako

    Let's focus less on the dorks thinking the people who like ROTS are all apologists... and on those who can't sit back and enjoy a serial adventure that's well done. I actually feel a bit of pity for the losers who love to hate just to get the attention. Boo hoo... so sad for you... but not for me... and countless millions who loved the movie.

  • Dec. 23, 2005, 11:28 p.m. CST


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  • Dec. 23, 2005, 11:47 p.m. CST

    Batman Begins

    by NiceMarmot

    Nice to see I'm not the only one who though this movie completely shit itself in the last 20 minutes, when it turned into every other pea-brained comic book movie made. I still give it a high grade overall. And count me in the camp that thinks History of Violence was overrated also. Viggo's character seemed too cliched, and William Hurt as a crime boss?!? Was Hugh Grant and Jeremy Davies too busy or something? And finally, I'm gonna throw out a little love for The Great Raid.

  • Dec. 24, 2005, midnight CST

    King Kong and the Probiscus Monkey

    by NiceMarmot

    Was I the only one who, upon seeing Adrian Brody in vaudeville-era NYC, thought to himself "Jimmy Durante biopic"? But since ol' Jimmy never had to battle drugs or alcohol, or fight racial injustice, we'll never get to see it.

  • Dec. 24, 2005, 12:57 a.m. CST


    by Lavaman

    No, you STFU!

  • Dec. 27, 2005, 8:59 a.m. CST

    Tired of top ten lists

    by Philaspenser

    So here we have another top ten list no more of less interesting than the million others out there. What I'd like to see is a truly subversive top ten list, like maybe the top ten sexy scenes in MAINSTREAM movies (not porn) to masturbate to. That would make for an interesting list. Myself, I'd put that first Naomi Watts / Laura Haring sex scene in "Molholland Drive" right at the top of the list. Any other suggestions?

  • Dec. 28, 2005, 3:03 a.m. CST

    Aeon Flux

    by ElGuapo1978

    admittedly I havent seen it but this has to be the only top 25 list ever with aeon flux on it

  • Jan. 1, 2006, 9:18 a.m. CST

    My 10 Favorite Movies of 2005

    by DarthKoshi

    I was mostly disappointed with movies this year. Several of the "big" ones I anticipated really let me down, such as "Sith" and "Batman Begins." And next year looks even more bleak. That being said, here are my ten favorites: 1. Serenity (Easily #1-- not even close-- the only "great" movie I saw this year, IMO) 2. Sin City 3. Walk the Line 4. Syriana 5. The Transporter 2 6. Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion the Whatever the Whogivesacrap 7. War of the Worlds 8. King Kong 9. Aeon Flux 10. Charlie and the Chocolate Factory