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Ahoy, squirts! Quint here with the second trailer for V FOR VENDETTA. You know that movie... I know you haven't heard about this movie much recently here on AICN... hehe... Now, although I am linking to this trailer and think it's well cut I really don't advise watching it if you haven't read Moore's book... This trailer is essentially a 2 and a half minute long version fo the movie, complete with the big ending and all the big action set pieces. Like I said, it's well cut, but if you want this movie to be a surprise at all you might want to hold off until March. You've been warned!
PEOPLE SHOULD NOT BE AFRAID OF THEIR TRAILERS... TRAILERS SHOULD BE AFRAID OF THEIR PEOPLE...
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I have fallen. I promised if I ever got the chance I would not post first..now look at me...shame SHAME (shaking fists at sky) POR QUE!!!
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V kicks more ass the more I see of it. Can't wait for March 17th. And Maceox - many of us have been first posters and didn't actually feel the need to comment on it. You can do it, buddy. I believe in you. Try harder next time.
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...except for that whole dressing in drag phase during PRICILLA, QUEEN OF THE DESERT, I'd really like to have Hugo Weaving's career. The guy has been a part of some cool shit. Say what you will about the MATRIX sequels.
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No wonder Harry liked it better than King Kong.
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Fifth. Roman numerals. Get it. Ahhh...fuck it. Looks great, though.
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Ya screwed me!
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That mask and hair still look really aweward and stupid. He looks like a retarded musketeer
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it could be good but it could also be weak. i can't tell from that trailer.
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Guess I can sort of figure out what the ending is retroactively. Oh, poopie. Oh well, no big.
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That clip nails down what I hope to be a fun cinematic ride. I'm there.
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I know everyone is raving about the movie and this new trailer but it has the same problems that were apparent before. Everyone dressed as V (Guy Fawkes) and the magic spinning bullet-time blades. I read one review where they said despite some changes the spirit of the book remains...I get that from the trailer but the stuff they altered looks like ass. BTW learn more about your friendly local terrorist here http://www.britannia.com/history/g-fawkes.html
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...that he has removed his name from it altogether? I knew he was "disassociating" himself from the project, but "based on the graphic novel illustrated by David Lloyd?"
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Wary because the Wachowski's can fuck up good stories. Also, there's gotta be a reason Moore backing away. Haven't read the book, but as a trailer looks interesting. Should piss off Ann Coulter and the O'Reilly Nation, and that's a good thing.
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Basically the problem is back when shooting of the film started Joel Silver said Alan Moore approved of it, which wasn't true. Alan Moore didn't really know anything about it. He wanted the statement no longer used (which it was used in a bunch of places) and then a new one stating how the first one wasn't true. Well, the quote was taken down but it was never fully explained. Alan Moore then fought to get his name taken off. I don't think he's even seen the film or plans to, his name was taken off out of principle, that's it.
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...is because he's overcritical of his adapted works. That's probably what it boils down to. I'm sure this movie isn't flawless, but with so many people enthused it's got to be at least decent. If somebody made a decent-yet-flawed adaptation of a story I wrote I wouldn't be outraged enough to take my name off the project, and not just because I like money, but because it's ridiculously melodramatic. And this is coming from someone who likes a lot of Moore's work.
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Thanks for the info, boomstick.
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he looks like Guy Fawkes. Are you going to whine when Spielberg finally does his Lincoln biopic and Lincoln has a beard and moles? If you really care to understand why Moore distances himself from film adaptations of his works, read Moore's "Writing For Comics Volume 1."
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will become so embroiled in the right vs left ballyhoo in this country that it wont get a fair shake from either side an the message will be lost. If hat be the case, then the movie will fail if it does not capture the action film crowd. From what I've read this is not an action film, so it really is going to come down to wether or not the film going audiences are willing to sit and have a story told to them that doesnt involve an explosion every five minutes.
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Awesomeness, this is gonna be one of those films where you just love to randomly quote the character...
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People keep calling Moore a dick for hating on the film (has he actually hated on the actual film yet or was it just the script the stupid comments made by the producer????) when it's had so many positive reviews from people at BNAT.
BNATers who'd been up for 24 hours and love these kind of anti-Hollywood type films. You know, it's cool to be different...I know for a fact how many script review changes are still in the film and I'm sorry, but they're unsubtle and shit. This bullshit about explaining who Guy Fawkes was??? WTF....I'm pretty sure Moore explains the whole Guy Fawkes thing in the prologue for one of the V editions. Did he really want to make a strong connection to Guy??? I know a film can be a separate entity from the book, but without the book it wouldn't have an existence and therefore, why bash the author without restraint? An author who, as far as I'm aware HASN'T EVEN FUCKING BASHED THE FINISHED PRODUCT YET. SO FUCK YOU ASSHOLES. -
It must be such a fucking demoralising experience for a writer to be lambasted like that. I mean are people so fucking shallow that the moment a work is filtered through a different medium (a medium which could be seen as less intellectual or less challenging in essence i.e. letting the images wash over you) we have to shit on the source. It's like babies in a pram or retarded teenagers. Do they want to have to concentrate on words on a page or do they just like how the pretty images move infront of their eyes....
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What the fuck is up with these trailers? "Some language" Jesus Christ what the fuck do they think that means? Anyway after the first second or so, the trailer looks pretty good - Stephen Rea is always worth watching, I take it he's the policeman who wanders around out his mind on acid to figure out who V is? Natalie Portman's accent is shit to be honest but at least it isn't that same accent that American actresses all try to do so bravo for trying a Cockney one. I like Weaving but the problem with him is his voice is so distinctive that I keep expecting him to talk about casting the bad guys into the FERY PIT FROM WHENCE THEY CAME. And the symbol that the bad guys use as a logo is bollocks too. Apart from those minor niggles, it looks really good.
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It seems that this second trailer has been cut to be more provocative than the first. I seem to recall the first also showing V with bombs strapped to him but I don't remember if it was right at the start like here. Plus, he is referred to as the "terrorist" V immediately afterwards. And goddamn it I meant to write "FIERY" in that post above. Fiery pit, not fery pit. Fery pit sounds like a Scouse eupemism for vagina.
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Kuryakin, at 7:25am here on the East Coast I shouldn't be laughing coffee through my nose. That comment did it, though. As someone who's from the Liverpool area, that was damn funny. Qustion, though: do you think any Scouser knows what a euphemism is? :-)
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Yes, I was hesitant about this movie at first, especially how it's being marketed. Yes, I am now more excited for it as I've been reading the positive reviews, but dammit I will be pissed if they do not include V's wicked cabaret sequence from the graphic novel in the movie. It was probably my favorite part, and to waste such an opportunity would be terrible. Has anyone seen it and can confirm or deny? Hell it would even work playing over the opening credits.
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and if I'm not mistaken a euphemism is a large brass musical instrument reminiscent of a tuba.
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...the film sucks because they explain who Guy Fawkes was? Wow, I didn't know they explained who Guy Fawkes was. What a fucking travesty of an adaptation. Give me a break. And I'm not "cannibalizing" Moore because his work has made the leap from book to film. I genuinely think that, if his reasons for disliking this film (I MEAN THE SCRIPT, NOT THE FINAL PRODUCT, which he'll probably never even see because he's already decided he hates it, by the by) are purely because they're a group of protesters dressed like V and because the Wachowskis used the phrase "eggy-in-a-basket," then he's being overly harsh. You ask why no allegiance to Moore. I respect the guy, but I'm not going to hate on the film simply because he does, which is what you seem to have decided to do, Danny. Because, you know, that's not ridiculous or anything.
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Cause if I'm the government, I would've taken the Guy Fawkes masks off the store shelves immediately. So where are they getting them from? ... I hope they remove it, because otherwise it ruins one of the major points of the book (in my mind, anyway)
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As I read your comments I thought you must be a genius by TB standards as you can actually string words together in some coherent way....And then I read the bit where you said I hated the film..Damn so close. Where exactly did I say I hated the film??? I hate the bits that I know have been included, which btw are, IMO, unsubtle. What I do hate, is the almost irrational backlash at Moore who, after seeing two diabolical adaptations of his work, stated that he didn't like the script and was seriously pissed when someone misquoted him (How the fuck would you feel Ribbon if someone did that to you???). Most of the people who've been screaming at Moore have assumed that he will hate the film as well and won't watch it. How do you know he won't? Oh, and please be careful in replying Ribbon; only quote me and don't fucking assume that you know for sure how I feel about the actual film.
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I still don't like the army of Vs. That's what I'm talking about when I say unsubtle. But if you can explain the inclusion Ribbons, then by all means hit me with your best explanation.
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Hollywood shows it has balls after all with this flick and Syriana, a necessary and overdue counterblast to the Bush administration. That scene of V rigged up in a suicide vest is shocking at this point in time when we are conditioned to think that suicide bombers are all mindless drones who "hate us for our freedom". I like the fact that Natalie's character has a real London accent instead of that plummy "English" accent which hardly exists outside Hollywood movies. I can't wait to see this.
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Dec 16, 2005 8:13:54 AM CST
"a necessary and overdue counterblast to the Bush administration
by chrth
Ignoring the fact that both the oil industry and V for Vendetta existed long before W became President, if you need Hollywood to fight your political battles, you're in sorry shape.
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Dec 16, 2005 8:19:08 AM CST
I'm not screaming at Moore, but it's precisely the fact
by fluffyunbound
If the film version of V FOR VENDETTA is even merely serviceable, that will make it approximately 1000x better than FROM HELL or LEAGUE. That would mean that I would expect to hear 1/1000th as many author complaints about the adaptation. It's this little thing reasonable people refer to as "proportionate response".
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OH I love reading the talkbackers say this is "anti-Bush" because it shows a "human" side to "terrorism" but last I checked V never blew up a group of women or kids at a toy giveaway. http://christmaschebacca.ytmnd.com/
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I saw the league of extraordianry gentleman. I didnt read the graphic novel. Neither did I read Moores from Hell. I saw the some of the movie on tv there recently. Put I was so put off by Depp and company's mangling of cockney accents that the movie for me became a trunoff although there was one scene which was very well done ripper lure one woman to her death tempting her with drink and silently creeping up behind her and butchering her to death, as scene it was very tense, menacing and dangerous. When a studio gets a project like this it has to decide whether it is commercially viable or not. the leagure of extraordiany gentle was a box office failure and the movie was a mess while it was in production notably down to Connery's Ego. I liked the visuall look of the film. I also liked the visual look of From hell and V looks like being a great action film. As the irish film critic Dave Fanning would say its just a movie get a life(chuckle Chuckle). But then dave doesnt like comic book movies. Harry reminds of that guy in the simpsons who owns the comic book store.
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Dave does not read or like comic books.
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...you sure told all of us. And especially Ribbins. What you told us and why you bothered remain something of a mystery, though. I mean...you're typing in English, but you're all over the fucking place in terms of message. You come out with a broad generalization about people who like the movie not understanding (implicitly, not being able to understand as well as you do) the book and then jump on Ribbons' cock for drawing the natural conclusion (based on your initial statement and your ensuing rant) that you disapprove of the adaptation. But wait! That apparently wasn't the point of your post at all. Instead, you really just wanted to sound condescending (toward someone, please god, anyone!) for the sake of making yourself feel smart. How's that working out for you right about now?
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Oh, I'm terribly sorry. A great number (I don't want to say all as I haven't read every single review and I'm sure you'll be able to find one that doesn't) of the 'loving' it reviews have included some comment on Moore and how he could possibly hate the film. It seems the rabid love they felt for the film prevented them from actually finding out what Moore said.
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Dec 16, 2005 9:29:27 AM CST
Is it just me, or does this just look like Future Zorro?
by minderbinder
It looks interesting, but that mask looks really stupid.
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I'm speechless. I'll quote Scar: "Run away ... run away and never return"
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Enlighten yourself:
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"But if you can explain the inclusion Ribbons, then by all means hit me with your best explanation." -------------- I never said all the changes were good, if you're going to respond quote me and don't fucking assume things, etc.
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If Guy Fawkes put on a retarded looking white musketeer mask with the hair of a 9 yr old girl. Then you're right, it's historically accurate.
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'I genuinely think that, if his reasons for disliking this film (I MEAN THE SCRIPT, NOT THE FINAL PRODUCT, which he'll probably never even see because he's already decided he hates it, by the by) are purely because they're a group of protesters dressed like V and because the Wachowskis used the phrase "eggy-in-a-basket," then he's being overly harsh.'
Those are your words Ribbon. And as for your own comment saying that by me asking you to explain the inclusion I was stating you liked the film, where did I say that? I just wanted you to see if you could explain why they needed to have all these little Vs lined up at the end. As you say above, you think Moore could be being harsh. So explain why he might be being harsh if that's still in the movie??? Okay...I quoted you and everything -
A smaller government could mean less protection from outside threats. The government doesn't bother me. Crazy wackos who wanna bring down this country do.
This whole thing about being against government has only escalated in the last years because the far left hates the Bush Administration with a passion. They see it as a dictatorship. So naturally they rebel. The idea is to make the curent Administration look so crazy and insane. That the whole country turns on itself and we give the country back to the Liberals. You wait and see, when a democrat gets elected president. Suddenly government won't be that big of a deal.
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Don't watch this trailer... it tells you what happens at the end of Brokeback Mountain. Seriously though, why can't anyone make a trailer these days that doesn't give away the whole movie? I haven't read the comic but I am interested in the movie. I want to watch the trailer bad, but now I can't. Is everyone in Hollywood too dumb to figure out how to sell a movie without telling you exactly how everything goes down? Oh well, at least now I know to close my eyes, plug my ears and scream "la la la la la" when the trailer comes on in the theater.
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...won't be that big of a deal when a Democrat is elected president again, at least to the majority of people complaining about it now. That has less to do with the validity of the complaints than it does with different people's state of agreement (or disagreement) with the policies and practices of the current administration, which has unquestionably changed the way the government governs from the previous presidency, just as that one changed the policies and practices of the presidency before it. You seem to be looking for hypocrisy where there is none, Orionsangels. It makes perfect sense for a malcontent to quiet down if he or she sees change which he or she perceives as being for the better. Your prediction might as well be that the sun will rise int he east tomorrow, just as the Religous right and big business will no doubt do their fair share of complaining once the balance of political power shifts in the U.S. It's the cyclical nature of the inbred beast that is American politics. The only thing keeping that beast even remotely honest - regardless of how corrupt or amoral the individual in the oval office might be during any given administration - is the freedom of people who do not agree with what's going on to speak their minds.
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This movie had a screening for the cast that blew everyone away.
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Yeah, okay. Well why the fuck did you ask me to explain it for you in the first place? Because I was there? By the way, when I say Moore is being overly harsh, that doesn't mean I think using the term 'eggy-in-a-basket' is an awesome idea. I just think Moore is being hyper-critical. So yeah, "those are my words," Danny Ocea, but I have no idea what they have to do with what you're talking about.
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...since you were wondering earlier, now that someone's misquoted me, I have to say that it's rather annoying.
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I guess if they really wanted to hide who was behind the mask, they should have distorted his SIGNATURE voice, eh?
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It's not like they're going to rip off the mask and find Elrond or Agent Smith behind it. In fact, unless the movie has done it wrong, they're not going to rip off his mask at all. What's wrong with having a distinctive voice, then? It's not like Hugo Weaving plays another character and there's a twist involved.
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We have a clear mental picture of Hugo Weaving.
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Its not that he dissaproves with THIS particular movie. He doesn't care LESS about the movies that are made of his books. He wont give dissaproval nor approval of any of the works. Moore in general does not think his works should be made into a movie...and is generally dissapointed in any translations. Moore hasn't taken any money for Leauge of Extrodinary Gentlemen, the money went to the other creators. Joe Silver was going around claiming that Moore LOVED the script and was enthusiastic about the movie. Moore HATES it when people either lie about him or threaten him. Alan requested that Silver publicly acknowlege that Moore did not give his enthusiastic approval. When Silver refused- Moore finished up his contract at Wildstorm/DC and took his ball and went elsewhere.
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Well the reason Moore has such trouble with all of this is basically because he's a writer and doesn't want to see his babies get hurt. It's understandable even though I disagree with it. To change a comic book into a film, you're gonna change portions of the original that the writer doesn't want to see go; most writers have to accept that. Then again, Moore's been burned before, badly -- I mean LXG -- plus you got Joel Silver going around trying to pretend Moore is all happy -- which I also understand considering the producer's largely in charge of damage control. Personally I think Moore should lighten up, but I still understand him.
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Thank you for the mega-spoiler warning; I usually get f'd over by the conflict between my love of trailers and my absolute hatred of spoilers. I will hold out for an untarnished viewing experience. Must.. resist.. trailer... Arg...
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Not knowing about Guy Fawkes is just one of those American things; you guys just don't know about anything that isn't a partt of your everyday lives; in another world it'd be like not knowing what Hallowe'en was, or Dracula. Secondly; hating the mask is like saying that the swastika looks dumb in a movie about the Nazis; stupid stupid; and the mask is designed to evoke, not only Fawkes, but Shakespeare, Don Quixote, Christ and Shakespeare. Which it does, making perfect sense when you understand V's value system; the defence of western culture and all that wonderful stuff that the US right wing discount as intellectual elitist. And this is, I might point out VERY pro-gay and pro multicultural; a broadside against Thatcher and all her toxic offspring; Tony Blair being the most emollient, Bush being the grossest.
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sorry about the Shakepeare repetition; it's late and I feel shitty. The other thing was that the first trailer was better; pacier and less revealing; I like the fireworks explosion in this one but I miss the line that gave me goosebumps in the first: "There is more than a face behind this mask, Mr Creed; there is an idea...and ideas are bulletproof." Lovely.
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Might I suggest those of you that are unaware do a Google search on 'Guy Fawkes'. It'll all make alot more sense.
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Part of the thing that's nice about teaser trailers is that it's more difficult for them to give away the whole movie.
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That mask is "VERY pro-gay". I might change my mind after I see the movie, but the mask looks silly in everything but the poster art.
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Don't be dumb. I don't NEED Hollywood to "fight my battles" but it's good to see art reflecting the times in which we live and taking a critical line. The fact that V is being made now and not 20 years ago is no accident.
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most eloquent thing written in response to the above 'tards settling in their trench of hate, all ready to hate this film before they even comprehend its most obvious themes and symbolisms....but i ask of you, with a big apology about the way my country acts and bush and the whole imperialist global policing and all...please don't lump all the yanks together. there are a few good folks here.
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From the creator of LXG and From Hell...
Alan Moore may have written some brilliant graphic novels but his adventures in Hollywood always end badly. I hope V For Vendetta will be different; everything I have seen so far looks great.
Remember, Anne Rice was also whining about her movie project until Interview With The Vampire was finished and she changed her mind. -
As of about three days ago, I am in the USA, visiting my in-laws for Chrimbo. I am well-aware that you are not all alike; this house is a hissing nest of anti-Bush sentiment in the middle of the heartland. And as for you guys being the lumpers, that's true enough. The fact is thay virtually nobosy that I have me here, or elsewhere, particularly anybody under the age of 50, knows who Guy Fawkes was. This is not a conservative/ leftist thing; even the leftists and anarchists haven't got a clue. So this generalisation is based on the very best of actual first-hand experience. For once.
And Jesus, is it hard to get some exercise here in the winter! Walking about outside is virtually illegal and I can't get a short term gym membership to save my life. I'm full of egg-nog and getting stir crazy as hell. -
Dec 19, 2005 11:25:11 PM CST
Tis a shame they missed (or lost...w/e) the November 5th date.
by iamjack'suserid
That would have been SWEET. I still like the last trailer and how it ended. "Remember, remember, the fifth of November..." Damn, Weaving is freakin awesome. Oh, and I'm actually reading the book now and it too is awesome!
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Doesn't it bother you that for all your talk of how terrorists have 'human sides', their actions contradict everything you say? Such as when they blow up crowds and children. Maybe you think condemning people who do such things is going to turn you into a Republican pod person and you definitely don't want to give any 'right-winger' the satisfaction of thinking they're right, but goddamn, you're looking for something that just isn't there. Terrorist's 'humanity'.
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anybody thinks of rounding up racial minorities, gays, lesbians or jews in MY country and sending them to concentration camps, censoring and destroying art and information, burning books and repressing women; I hope I have the courage to kill them in any way I can, blow up their buuldings, destroying their infrastructure and thwarting them in any way I can.
Read Thoreau on disobedience; hell; read the Declaration of Independence: 'But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.' -
I just wanted to agree with Noeland about Hugo Weaving and the voice; it's gonna be pretty damn distracting. Hell, even as I watch the trailer I can't stop imagining Hugo Weaving's smug face behind the mask. In a sense, V is no longer as mysterious as he should be, and that pisses me off a little.
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i think the 2 who have mentioned the voice are right when i hear it i just thinking of Hugo which isnt good as you arent supposed to picture anyone. i always imagined V's voice to be softer and less menacing seeing as he is IMO a flaming homosexual.
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http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr/reviews/review_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001701281
HR has a review which explains (partly) the army of V's
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