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Moriarty Visits Skull Island And Brings KONG Back Alive!!

Hi, everyone. "Moriarty" here with some Rumblings From The Lab...

By the time you read this, KING KONG should be letting out of midnight screenings around the country, and many of you will finally have had the chance to see it. I’ve seen it twice already now, and I was still tempted to go out tonight to see it again. It’s that kind of movie crack, compulsively watchable, rewarding in different ways on each of the viewings so far.

Which is not to say it’s perfect, because it’s really, really not. In some ways, this is wildly undisciplined filmmaking, self-indulgent even, and I’m willing to be that six more months of post-production would have resulted in a radically different cut of the film, a tighter cut, one without quite so many narrative dead ends. Having said that, I’m happier with an uneven KONG than I have been with most other movies this year, and I suspect that most viewers will be, too.

My favorite thing about the movie is how clearly this is the work of pre-LORD OF THE RINGS Peter Jackson. For most of the mainstream, Jackson didn’t exist before the epic trilogy that won him his Academy Award. That was their introduction to him, and as much as I like those films, they’re absolutely atypical of his prior work. The Peter Jackson who won me over was the guy who made BAD TASTE, the excessive lunatic behind DEAD ALIVE, the diseased mind that created MEET THE FEEBLES. There was never any indication that subtlety was even part of his filmmaking vocabulary until HEAVENLY CREATURES, which I think I’d still call his best overall film. Still, that’s the exception, not the rule. The real Peter Jackson came out to play again with THE FRIGHTENERS, arguably the most important film to his overall development as a filmmaker. That’s the movie where WETA first stepped up to produce a large-budget FX show, mixing digital and practical on the same scale as a big Hollywood feature without ever leaving Wellington. It also got Jackson working in the studio system for the first time, which laid the groundwork for everything that’s happened since.

In many ways, KING KONG is a summation of everything that Peter Jackson has done so far as a filmmaker, his master’s thesis. Whatever he does next, he can’t possibly top the spectacle of KONG. He’s finally made the film he’s been revving up to for his whole career, stuffed full of ever fetish he’s ever hoped to indulge. Most importantly, all the technical wizardry he’s been learning over the course of his last four or five movies has been brought to bear in the creation of Kong as a character, and there’s one thing about the film that seems inarguable to me: Kong himself is the single most successful special effect in the history of cinema. He exists. He is real. You look in his eyes, you’ll see a soul, a genuine intelligence staring back out at you. Kong is a triumph, even when KONG is not.

Let’s discuss the already hotly-debated first act of the movie, everything before Skull Island. This is the most difficult stretch of the film, but it’s a mistake to dismiss it outright or to call it a chore. There are plenty of highlights here, starting with the opening scenes that introduce us to New York. Even if Jackson had an actual time machine, he could not have done a better job at transporting us back to a bygone era. His New York is amazing. I’m also a big fan of the way Jackson (along with his co-screenwriters Fran Walsh and Philippa Boyens) reimagined Carl Denham, and Jack Black perfectly inhabits the character. He’s a filmmaker whose ambition outstrips his ability, and at the start of the film, it’s finally catching up with him. He’s got a vision for how to make an epic adventure film, and he’s got a great location chosen that no one’s ever used. He just doesn’t have the money or the movie stars to pull it off. He has to leave New York in a hurry, one step ahead of the law, which forces him to abduct his screenwriter Jack Driscoll (Adrien Brody) and scramble to find a last-minute leading lady, Ann Darrow (Naomi Watts). The way the three of them are introduced all works for me, but I was far less interested in the crew of the Venture, the tramp steamer that Denham hires to take them to Skull Island. In particular, there’s a bizarre amount of attention paid to Jimmy (Jamie Bell) and Mr. Hayes (Evan Parke), attention that never pays off. None of their scenes further the plot or the film’s themes, and neither of them emerges as anything like a fully fleshed-out character. When people complain about the film’s first act, chances are, it’s these two characters that are at the heart of those complaints.

That’s not to say I hated everything on the Venture; I didn’t. I like the way Lumpy the Cook (Andy Serkis) and some of the other crew guys are etched with just a few lines here and there, and the same with the guys working for Denham. None of them seem overwritten, but they make enough of an impression to make us give a shit about them on the island. There’s also some decent comedy at the expense of Bruce Baxter (Kyle Chandler), the egotistic star of Denham’s movie, and one great scene that pokes some gentle fun at the original KONG by quoting some dialogue from it. Overall, though, I don’t buy a lot of what happens on the boat, and that’s a problem.

Of course, once they get to the island, not a bit of that matters anymore, because this is where Jackson cuts loose. From the moment the landing party hits the shore, the film rocks and rolls. The natives of the island are genuinely scary, and I love the way they’re revealed. Their first big scene is one of many in the film that are too intense for younger children, and I’m happy to see Jackson push the outer envelope of the PG-13 in a way that recalls the glory days of early ‘80s Spielberg and Lucas. Even better is the abduction of Ann and the introduction of Kong. You know that feeling you get when you saw a film one time as a kid and you loved it but for whatever reason you haven’t seen it since and then suddenly you see it again and it’s nothing like you remembered? Childhood’s eyes are the kindest for any fantasy film, and our memories do a lot of work on a film if we haven’t seen it for twenty years or so. Well, Peter Jackson’s KING KONG feels like he somehow reached into his head and put the film that he saw as a nine-year-old up onscreen intact, and being able to direct with that child’s eye is a gift that very few filmmakers are able to tap. It’s what makes Spielberg’s best movies so potent, and you’ll probably flash on the same sort of pure cinema joy you felt when you first saw RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK or (depending how old you are) JURASSIC PARK when you see the way Jackson’s built some of the film’s biggest set pieces. The dino stampede, the bug pit, Kong’s battle with the V-Rexes... these are classically built and executed sequences that leave you worn out by the end of them in the best possible way. They’re exhilaratingly inventive, and the energy is one of the things that makes KONG stand out from most of what we see at the movies.

But what really seals the deal is the way Jackson allows us to care about Kong without ruining him as one of the great movie monsters. He’s intimidating, ferocious, the best fighter on the island. He’s also almost childlike in the way he bonds with Ann, laughing and playing, throwing tantrums, getting moody or sullen over the smallest things. Kong’s the last of his kind, as we learn in a haunting sequence where we see the remains of the rest of his species. He’s alone. He connects with Ann not because of any sort of creepy inter-species love or lust. He connects with her because he finally has a purpose, something that drives him beyond pure instinct or survival. He has to protect Ann. He has to take care of her. And that drive seems to rekindle something vital in the brooding beast. Jackson knows that he’s stacking the deck, too. By making us care deeply about Kong, it hurts when he finally gets taken down by Denham and his crew. It hurts even more when he’s displayed in New York. It’s not about what they’ve done to him physically, it’s about the fact that they’ve broken his spirit. Denham emerges as the villain of the film in a way that he never did in the ’33 original, and it’s an interesting twist. He’s a liar, an opportunist, and ultimately, he seems willing to crawl over anyone’s body to get what he wants. The film’s final act, everything in New York, is marked with a tragic undercurrent that makes it difficult to watch. Many people have mentioned the moment that Ann and Kong share on the ice of Central Park, and the reason it stands out as one of this year’s best moments for me is because of what it does to the ending. We all know he’s going up the Empire State Building, and we all know how he’s coming back down. But that quiet moment of happiness that Kong enjoys just before the climb makes it even worse. Naomi Watts deserves praise for the way she seems to have invested in Kong completely. She makes you believe in him with her work, and Andy Serkis does such great performance capture work that you stop wondering how it was done. You’re too busy reacting to Kong on an emotional level to consider the technical accomplishment behind what you’re watching, a testament to the craft that WETA is capable of at the moment. One of my favorite scenes takes place as Kong is trying to escape from the theater. He recognizes Driscoll standing in the balcony, and a look of pure fury crosses his face. He leaps, and his weight begins to tear the balcony apart as he struggles to get to Driscoll. It’s a brilliant image, and a nice reminder that Kong may have a heart, but he’s still capable of real damage.

Not every single composite in the film works, and not ever single bit of CGI is outstanding. Again, another six months of post-production time might have made all the difference. As with MUNICH, this film was still being tweaked up to the very last moment before it started screening, and when you’re trying to finish this many FX shots, some things are bound to fall through the cracks. It’s precisely because so much of the work is so outstanding that the moments that don’t work stand out. It’s obvious that time is the culprit here, not ability, so it seems ungenerous to nitpick WETA too much. The film is beautifully designed, and Andrew Lesnie’s photography is excellent. I even liked James Newton Howard’s score, which I know was rushed, but which doesn’t feel like it. He uses quiet just as effectively as he uses music, and moments like the bug pit surprised me with some strong and unusual choices.

I referred to NARNIA as a pretty box with no present inside in my review of it, and KONG strikes me as the exact opposite. It’s a box that is splitting at the seams, falling apart because of everything that’s been crammed into it. If you can look past the places where it doesn’t hang together, KONG is a tremendous entertainment, as passionate a movie as any little self-financed indie film you want to name this year. I hope this is the end of giant-budget Jackson for a while, because I want to see what else he’s capable of. For now, though, he emerges as the eighth wonder of the film world, thumping his chest and howling with justified pride.

I’ve got a lot more coming this week, so I’ll see you with reviews of V FOR VENDETTA, SYMPATHY FOR LADY VENGEANCE, MATCH POINT, THE PRODUCERS, and MUNICH in the next few days, as well as a big catch-up column where I’ll review some recent releases that I missed before they opened. Until then...

"Moriarty" out.





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Great review
by cyanide christ
Dec 14th, 2005
06:51:17 AM
Oh I almost forgot..
by cyanide christ
Dec 14th, 2005
06:52:51 AM
I'll see it at some point. Also...
by The Wrong Guy
Dec 14th, 2005
07:02:22 AM
Seeing this at 2:30 today
by Bean_
Dec 14th, 2005
07:02:44 AM
I just saw the midnight show...and I'm still reeling
by jrbarker
Dec 14th, 2005
07:03:16 AM
TheWrongGuy
by TheRealMoriarty
Dec 14th, 2005
07:10:15 AM
New King
by Wellesian
Dec 14th, 2005
07:11:37 AM
I just need to read Mori's reviews and I know ...
by MajorOcelot
Dec 14th, 2005
07:15:59 AM
So would the film had have been better off being pushed to Summe
by xavier masterson
Dec 14th, 2005
07:19:52 AM

by jaxnnux
Dec 14th, 2005
07:20:55 AM
Agree Wellesian ...
by MajorOcelot
Dec 14th, 2005
07:21:49 AM
No. No, I Didn't.
by TheRealMoriarty
Dec 14th, 2005
07:35:05 AM
Do you think Jackson will finish the incomplete effects for the
by Rindain
Dec 14th, 2005
07:46:27 AM
Giant-budget Mori?
by half vader
Dec 14th, 2005
07:48:31 AM
'fun, pure and simple'
by The Wrong Guy
Dec 14th, 2005
07:56:59 AM
I still want Giant-budget Jackson...
by MemBirdman
Dec 14th, 2005
07:59:11 AM
Finally someone said it
by dewijnboer
Dec 14th, 2005
08:06:22 AM
Mori - do you realize that what PJ made was Kong in structure, b
by genro
Dec 14th, 2005
08:34:35 AM
The "Fun" of Kong
by Bones
Dec 14th, 2005
08:37:44 AM
Great review
by wackynephews
Dec 14th, 2005
08:59:27 AM
Opening on Friday
by judderman
Dec 14th, 2005
09:04:09 AM
Bones - nice summary...
by genro
Dec 14th, 2005
09:23:26 AM
Fun, yes, at times, but PJ fails in one important element...
by Chishu_Ryu
Dec 14th, 2005
09:27:52 AM
Peter Jackson's next...
by Tar Heel
Dec 14th, 2005
09:39:21 AM
watched both king kong originals last nite...
by jig98
Dec 14th, 2005
09:39:31 AM
CRAP REVIEW
by 69DUDE
Dec 14th, 2005
09:40:27 AM
well done, Mori. while i didn't care for it, your review di
by HypeEndsHere
Dec 14th, 2005
09:56:40 AM
Finally, a review without all the hyperbole. Not the "masterpie
by Atticus Finch
Dec 14th, 2005
10:04:57 AM
You have NO idea the trouble I went to...
by RobinP
Dec 14th, 2005
10:16:34 AM
Good point, Chisu_Ryu
by zinc_chameleon
Dec 14th, 2005
10:49:37 AM
"No, really, it's not that bad..." This all sounds like an a
by Mecandes
Dec 14th, 2005
11:02:01 AM
can't wait to see this...
by vinceklortho
Dec 14th, 2005
11:16:35 AM
I have to disagree with the statement that Kong is the greatest
by Doc_Strange
Dec 14th, 2005
11:18:26 AM
So why rush a 'masterpiece'?
by Doc_McCoy
Dec 14th, 2005
11:25:22 AM
Kong
by Knightsong
Dec 14th, 2005
11:45:36 AM
Mori, thanks for the review, got a couple of quick questions if
by YackBacker
Dec 14th, 2005
11:51:14 AM
The Adventures of Jimmy Cowperthwaite aboard the tramp steamer V
by JAGUART
Dec 14th, 2005
12:01:06 PM
Fay mention
by RenoNevada2000
Dec 14th, 2005
12:14:28 PM
Chrysler Building?
by RenoNevada2000
Dec 14th, 2005
12:19:55 PM
Hey there ah, Moviemuck
by Mr Nice Gaius
Dec 14th, 2005
12:23:33 PM
Adrian Brody looks like the type of guy that should sound like a
by Terry_1978
Dec 14th, 2005
12:24:38 PM
Forget PJ's Kong......
by Shaner Jedi
Dec 14th, 2005
12:31:26 PM
still needing six months of post...
by Silver Shamrock
Dec 14th, 2005
12:48:28 PM
Nice one, Mori
by moviemaniac-7
Dec 14th, 2005
01:10:30 PM
The guy who said great review stole my thunder
by hamo455
Dec 14th, 2005
01:32:12 PM
Does Anyone else
by Wellesian
Dec 14th, 2005
01:37:17 PM
WHERE IS HARRY'S REVIEW?
by CrimsonGhost
Dec 14th, 2005
01:45:32 PM
This is the best review yet.
by Thirteen 13
Dec 14th, 2005
01:59:55 PM
Saw it last night...
by kintar0
Dec 14th, 2005
02:16:28 PM
"Batman Begins sucked."
by Mr Nice Gaius
Dec 14th, 2005
02:19:21 PM
Can we expect a KING KONG 2.5 hour, Anti-Extended Edition on DVD
by George Newman
Dec 14th, 2005
02:39:12 PM
Not really, Gaius...
by kintar0
Dec 14th, 2005
02:41:39 PM
sounded like an 8/10
by mikey mike
Dec 14th, 2005
02:46:23 PM
Thanks Moriarty
by monorail77
Dec 14th, 2005
02:48:23 PM
RE: Not really, Gaius
by Mr Nice Gaius
Dec 14th, 2005
02:56:11 PM
F*ck Peter Jackson...
by El Scorcho
Dec 14th, 2005
02:56:17 PM
Ringbearer, Kong, and the Sound of Inevitability Pt.II
by Mr Nice Gaius
Dec 14th, 2005
02:58:20 PM
Ringbearer9
by cyanide christ
Dec 14th, 2005
03:02:42 PM
I just love
by Bass Ackwards
Dec 14th, 2005
03:10:51 PM
Or you could just read. . .
by YouInRawbIns?
Dec 14th, 2005
03:10:53 PM
Its a difficult business, this "rushing through post-production
by ol' painless
Dec 14th, 2005
03:11:26 PM
OK Ringbearer
by cyanide christ
Dec 14th, 2005
03:20:27 PM
Gus Van Rant
by cyanide christ
Dec 14th, 2005
03:24:25 PM
The look in Naomi Watts' eyes when she's looking at Kong
by brokentusk
Dec 14th, 2005
03:24:30 PM
Ringbearer9, dude...
by Nordling
Dec 14th, 2005
03:27:49 PM
ugh
by MisterCynic
Dec 14th, 2005
03:29:26 PM
Okay, then, Ringbearer9...
by Nordling
Dec 14th, 2005
03:40:05 PM
Did you read Mori's earlier post in this TB?
by Gheorghe Zamfir
Dec 14th, 2005
03:41:20 PM
MORIARTY
by Mr Nice Gaius
Dec 14th, 2005
03:43:21 PM
Hey Ringbearer9, what are your 3 favourite movies?
by ol' painless
Dec 14th, 2005
03:44:21 PM
Ringbearer...
by TheRealMoriarty
Dec 14th, 2005
03:46:29 PM
Ringsucker
by dewijnboer
Dec 14th, 2005
03:53:54 PM
Moriarty
by Knightsong
Dec 14th, 2005
03:57:34 PM
The movie is simply great.
by L.H.Puttgrass
Dec 14th, 2005
03:59:14 PM
KOOOOONNNGG!
by zikade zarathos
Dec 14th, 2005
03:59:40 PM
My God... it's full of stars...
by DocPazuzu
Dec 14th, 2005
04:01:04 PM
Doc Pazuzu
by Mr Nice Gaius
Dec 14th, 2005
04:04:26 PM
????
by CrimsonGhost
Dec 14th, 2005
04:06:52 PM
Ringbearer9
by Knightsong
Dec 14th, 2005
04:07:31 PM
Hey Knightsong
by dewijnboer
Dec 14th, 2005
04:10:35 PM
Thanks for the heads-up =p
by Knightsong
Dec 14th, 2005
04:11:58 PM
secretivily
by dewijnboer
Dec 14th, 2005
04:13:45 PM
Ringbearer, I'm finding it difficult to follow your logic .
by ol' painless
Dec 14th, 2005
04:14:19 PM
Its one thing to point out things in the review
by Bass Ackwards
Dec 14th, 2005
04:15:56 PM
"guy who made BAD TASTE, the excessive lunatic behind DEAD ALIVE
by www.valiens.com
Dec 14th, 2005
04:17:10 PM
Gus Van Rant
by Bass Ackwards
Dec 14th, 2005
04:18:02 PM
Anger leads to hate ...
by Chaka
Dec 14th, 2005
04:19:31 PM
Van Rant Follower
by jagger
Dec 14th, 2005
04:20:36 PM
Good point Chaka
by dewijnboer
Dec 14th, 2005
04:21:00 PM
jagger
by dewijnboer
Dec 14th, 2005
04:23:32 PM
If you hadn't been a megalomaniac, Ringbearer9...
by DocPazuzu
Dec 14th, 2005
04:23:35 PM
Gus...
by Mr Nice Gaius
Dec 14th, 2005
04:23:38 PM
absolutely!!!
by dewijnboer
Dec 14th, 2005
04:27:38 PM
Just got back from seeing it.....
by KongMonkey
Dec 14th, 2005
04:29:13 PM
Ringbearer...
by DoctorWho?
Dec 14th, 2005
04:30:58 PM
Holy shit...
by DocPazuzu
Dec 14th, 2005
04:34:55 PM
It's Not About Agreeing Or Disagreeing
by TheRealMoriarty
Dec 14th, 2005
04:37:27 PM
I've been looking forward to this one all year, but watching
by Shermdawg
Dec 14th, 2005
04:37:34 PM
Ringbearer
by dewijnboer
Dec 14th, 2005
04:39:31 PM
Harry = runs the site Hairy = has lots of hair
by Gheorghe Zamfir
Dec 14th, 2005
04:42:59 PM
Uhm...
by dewijnboer
Dec 14th, 2005
04:44:10 PM
"He's found the wall now, and he's been warned."
by IAmLegolas
Dec 14th, 2005
04:44:59 PM
No he won't, IAm Legolas
by dewijnboer
Dec 14th, 2005
04:49:04 PM
moriarty is a little touchy...
by mocky_puppet
Dec 14th, 2005
04:52:21 PM
Doc Paz...
by Mr Nice Gaius
Dec 14th, 2005
04:52:52 PM
I don't agree, mocky
by dewijnboer
Dec 14th, 2005
04:53:45 PM
Ringbearer
by Bass Ackwards
Dec 14th, 2005
04:54:06 PM
And thanks...
by Mr Nice Gaius
Dec 14th, 2005
04:58:50 PM
Thanks, Mr Nice Gaius
by dewijnboer
Dec 14th, 2005
05:04:42 PM
The finest 12 yr. Single-Malt AICN Scotch you can find.
by Mr Nice Gaius
Dec 14th, 2005
05:06:47 PM
good riddence
by Peven
Dec 14th, 2005
05:07:07 PM
I suggest...
by dewijnboer
Dec 14th, 2005
05:08:49 PM
If it can be poured into a glass, I'm there.
by Mr Nice Gaius
Dec 14th, 2005
05:11:32 PM
It can be
by dewijnboer
Dec 14th, 2005
05:14:56 PM
It's pretty simple, actually...
by sundancekeed
Dec 14th, 2005
05:31:09 PM
Semen, too, Gais?
by kintar0
Dec 14th, 2005
05:32:08 PM
dewijnboer
by mocky_puppet
Dec 14th, 2005
05:32:38 PM
kintarO
by Mr Nice Gaius
Dec 14th, 2005
05:37:16 PM
I think it's time I put Mori in his place!!!
by Orionsangels
Dec 14th, 2005
05:53:20 PM
I am a Holocaust denier!
by performingmonkey
Dec 14th, 2005
05:53:51 PM
Does anyone else remember the great fettastic?
by DocPazuzu
Dec 14th, 2005
06:08:26 PM
a talkback tip for moriarity
by haiku tunnel
Dec 14th, 2005
06:08:59 PM
As much as I hate censorship...
by Tony Mike Hall
Dec 14th, 2005
06:29:34 PM
As annoying as he is...
by DocPazuzu
Dec 14th, 2005
06:41:31 PM
Man Oh Man! I thought he was NEVER going to shut up . . .
by ol' painless
Dec 14th, 2005
06:45:27 PM
Ringy and the "real"
by DocPazuzu
Dec 14th, 2005
06:48:26 PM
"T'was beauty that killed the beast..."
by HypeEndsHere
Dec 14th, 2005
06:49:35 PM
Oh my...
by Mr Nice Gaius
Dec 14th, 2005
06:51:06 PM
Well, now that you say it... No, no, he still should be banned
by Tony Mike Hall
Dec 14th, 2005
06:51:18 PM
Oh, I'm sorry, let me be more clear...
by Tony Mike Hall
Dec 14th, 2005
07:01:01 PM
Hey everyone! This is my impression of Ringy
by ol' painless
Dec 14th, 2005
07:04:27 PM
Holy Moley!
by sundancekeed
Dec 14th, 2005
07:06:06 PM
"But isn't one of the tricks to conveying the "fantasy" to t
by DocPazuzu
Dec 14th, 2005
07:07:38 PM
Sorry, Ringbearer. You lost this one. Jackson 4, Ringbearer 0.
by FluffyUnbound
Dec 14th, 2005
07:09:31 PM
Hey Ringbearer...
by Mr Nice Gaius
Dec 14th, 2005
07:11:20 PM
"Except for DocPazuzu, who is would be a tool no matter what."
by DocPazuzu
Dec 14th, 2005
07:13:17 PM
Unless of course I change my mind.
by Mr Nice Gaius
Dec 14th, 2005
07:14:28 PM
That's right, Ringby I was quakin' in mah boots till She
by ol' painless
Dec 14th, 2005
07:17:47 PM
And I'll repeat myself for you as well.
by DocPazuzu
Dec 14th, 2005
07:19:15 PM
Oh...
by DocPazuzu
Dec 14th, 2005
07:21:24 PM
Wrong Ringbearer
by Mr Nice Gaius
Dec 14th, 2005
07:21:53 PM
I don't "hate" you, Ringbearer
by sundancekeed
Dec 14th, 2005
07:24:18 PM
No, Sherm, you didn't like it?
by vinceklortho
Dec 14th, 2005
07:24:18 PM
The guy writes two thousand words complaining about minutiae of
by FluffyUnbound
Dec 14th, 2005
07:26:11 PM
Which means you better not start looking like Poland to me, Her
by ol' painless
Dec 14th, 2005
07:34:04 PM
The bloody awful screenwriting team
by Boru999
Dec 14th, 2005
07:42:45 PM
don't ban ringbearer9
by slappy jones
Dec 14th, 2005
07:52:48 PM
Your 'weird ecology' argument is just bewildering, Ringy
by ol' painless
Dec 14th, 2005
07:56:44 PM
Just watch the fucking movie
by Nesskid
Dec 14th, 2005
08:02:49 PM
What's that over there? Its a man in a Nautilus submarine su
by ol' painless
Dec 14th, 2005
08:05:12 PM
I guarantee the DVD for this movie will come out this summer, th
by Ted Striker
Dec 14th, 2005
08:16:11 PM
don't waste your time Mori...
by Samuel Steamer
Dec 14th, 2005
08:28:23 PM
Ringbearer 9 is concerned with "animal behavior" and " shipping
by DoctorWho?
Dec 14th, 2005
08:28:35 PM
WHY THE FUCK are people mistaking this for a great movie????????
by El Scorcho
Dec 14th, 2005
08:44:20 PM
How did I know Kong's death would be drawn out?
by Citizen Arcane
Dec 14th, 2005
08:59:43 PM
A 'Director's Cut' that trims the original by a subt
by workshed
Dec 14th, 2005
09:03:31 PM
The first hour is great, except for Jackson's kid's appe
by FluffyUnbound
Dec 14th, 2005
09:04:33 PM
Boru999, what have you written?
by aikimoe
Dec 14th, 2005
09:12:22 PM
KONG! LONG?
by ZombieSolutions
Dec 14th, 2005
09:13:39 PM
KONG! WRONG?
by ZombieSolutions
Dec 14th, 2005
09:20:09 PM
KONG SONG!
by ZombieSolutions
Dec 14th, 2005
09:20:54 PM
Believe the Hype.
by Evil Chicken
Dec 14th, 2005
09:23:36 PM
HONG... KONG?
by ZombieSolutions
Dec 14th, 2005
09:24:18 PM
Just to show it's not like I can't criticize any part of
by FluffyUnbound
Dec 14th, 2005
09:27:31 PM
I'm seeing this on Saturday
by Juggernaut125
Dec 14th, 2005
09:28:16 PM
Ringbearer9 Has Made Unassailable Points---Probably why no one a
by Thunderballs
Dec 14th, 2005
09:28:30 PM
WTF
by MaguaSynfield
Dec 14th, 2005
09:33:51 PM
interesting review mo...
by obi-bear
Dec 14th, 2005
09:35:29 PM
WTF
by MaguaSynfield
Dec 14th, 2005
09:35:36 PM
KING KONG... LONG DONG?
by ZombieSolutions
Dec 14th, 2005
09:36:20 PM
It doesn't have to be a classic film...
by DoctorWho?
Dec 14th, 2005
09:38:42 PM
I wanted to love this movie but Jackson asked us to suspend beli
by Retrace
Dec 14th, 2005
09:39:12 PM
Blow me, Thunderballs.
by FluffyUnbound
Dec 14th, 2005
09:40:23 PM
Is there such a thing as a perfect movie?
by kintar0
Dec 14th, 2005
09:44:38 PM
More things that are stupid about CLOSE ENCOUNTERS
by FluffyUnbound
Dec 14th, 2005
09:53:23 PM
Ringbearer9 Has Made Unassailable Points---Probably why no one a
by Thunderballs
Dec 14th, 2005
09:57:17 PM
Perfect movie?
by MaguaSynfield
Dec 14th, 2005
10:00:27 PM
holy shit, Ringbearer9, that was a fucking hate fest
by jrbarker
Dec 14th, 2005
10:02:07 PM
Why is this movie 3 hours long?
by BigTuna
Dec 14th, 2005
10:02:12 PM
If you think JAWS is cool because the shark is supernatural, you
by FluffyUnbound
Dec 14th, 2005
10:04:38 PM
Fluffy Unbound Smackdown!
by Captain Gorn
Dec 14th, 2005
10:04:48 PM
This is Quite Possibly my favorite Film Ever.
by Atomica
Dec 14th, 2005
10:07:43 PM
the submarine didn't submerge because...
by kintar0
Dec 14th, 2005
10:12:03 PM
Well the sub ddn't submerge, MaguaSynfield
by Citizen Arcane
Dec 14th, 2005
10:15:35 PM
the perfect movie HAS been made ...
by Lou C.
Dec 14th, 2005
10:15:49 PM
IN MY OPINION: 7/10 for effort, writing was weak, Peter Jackson&
by Psalmolive
Dec 14th, 2005
10:18:38 PM
Yeah, I might have been dissapointed with the film, but I will a
by Shermdawg
Dec 14th, 2005
10:19:54 PM
You had me at "Ringbearer9 makes Unassailable Points", Thunderte
by ol' painless
Dec 14th, 2005
10:20:04 PM
You people are sad.
by Batutta
Dec 14th, 2005
10:22:07 PM
People like, FluffyUnbound shouldn't watch movies
by Orionsangels
Dec 14th, 2005
10:28:17 PM
Psalmolive's plotholes
by Citizen Arcane
Dec 14th, 2005
10:28:41 PM
IN MY OPINION: Actually, I really think for the first time ever,
by Psalmolive
Dec 14th, 2005
10:32:06 PM
"Driscoll found anne because kong leaves a big ass trail."
by Shermdawg
Dec 14th, 2005
10:35:56 PM
Well considering the ass raping Vern gave Ringbearer9 earlier to
by I Dunno
Dec 14th, 2005
10:41:09 PM
I don't think I will ever see this movie again
by YackBacker
Dec 14th, 2005
10:45:15 PM
Actually, Black says "Beauty killed the Beast."
by Shermdawg
Dec 14th, 2005
10:50:55 PM
Of course I could be mistaken because the kid that was complaini
by Shermdawg
Dec 14th, 2005
10:52:49 PM
Well, its no Kieslowski
by Psalmolive
Dec 14th, 2005
10:55:28 PM
Oh, and one more thing...
by Shermdawg
Dec 14th, 2005
10:57:59 PM
Ringbearer9, it's cool that you didn't like it
by YackBacker
Dec 14th, 2005
11:00:56 PM
For the record, I wasn't hyped about this movie going in.
by YackBacker
Dec 14th, 2005
11:08:51 PM
hehe... I said "Khan and Ann"
by YackBacker
Dec 14th, 2005
11:10:31 PM
Liked the movie, but "It was Beauty that killed the beast?" Good
by George Newman
Dec 14th, 2005
11:20:36 PM
'ol painless---you just apologized and excused every bad mov
by Thunderballs
Dec 14th, 2005
11:46:19 PM
"Beauty killed the Beast"
by Citizen Arcane
Dec 15th, 2005
12:00:59 AM
This is not the Greatest Kong in the Wor-orld.
by Shermdawg
Dec 15th, 2005
12:07:45 AM
King KoKo
by MajorMajor
Dec 15th, 2005
12:12:53 AM
I'll save you 10 dollars!
by jodocus
Dec 15th, 2005
12:16:16 AM
speaking of ban threats...
by Lavaman
Dec 15th, 2005
12:17:59 AM
King Kong II
by jodocus
Dec 15th, 2005
12:23:13 AM
Well, crap, I could have saved my $6.25 and got the JP Triple pa
by Shermdawg
Dec 15th, 2005
12:25:40 AM
KONG owns your asses, muddafukkassssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!
by zillabeast
Dec 15th, 2005
12:37:36 AM
Cunts
by performingmonkey
Dec 15th, 2005
12:38:35 AM
MORIARTY I'm sure you caught an obvious throwback to RotK
by white owl
Dec 15th, 2005
01:02:22 AM
I JUST saw it. My 2 cents...
by uberman
Dec 15th, 2005
01:05:17 AM
"Probably why no one actually substantively responded to his "RE
by DoctorWho?
Dec 15th, 2005
01:05:43 AM
I have to reserve my hate for real substantial pieces of shit li
by DoctorWho?
Dec 15th, 2005
01:11:40 AM
ringbearer9..everything you posted was telegraphed months ago
by slappy jones
Dec 15th, 2005
01:30:00 AM
Breeding? Ringy?
by dewijnboer
Dec 15th, 2005
01:49:27 AM
Finally saw it
by RowanM
Dec 15th, 2005
01:58:50 AM
I neither love nor hate the KING KONG franchise, and I just saw
by white owl
Dec 15th, 2005
02:20:37 AM
I beg to differ.
by DocPazuzu
Dec 15th, 2005
03:06:29 AM
Kong was great!
by Jon E Cin
Dec 15th, 2005
03:37:07 AM
DocPazuzu is his eloquent self, as ever.
by dewijnboer
Dec 15th, 2005
04:01:59 AM
Loved the movie!! I thought the Ratmonkey(brainbead) was to be f
by Windowlicker74
Dec 15th, 2005
04:43:28 AM
"Forget about convictions! Forget about art!"
by ol' painless
Dec 15th, 2005
05:43:32 AM
Ringbearer9, you're trying to do what Kevin Smith did and be
by brokentusk
Dec 15th, 2005
06:19:44 AM
My Kong review
by Drexl
Dec 15th, 2005
06:35:06 AM
thwack thwack thwack
by dewijnboer
Dec 15th, 2005
06:39:35 AM
What time is it, is anyone still here?
by BendersShinyAss
Dec 15th, 2005
07:22:49 AM
Hey Bender
by dewijnboer
Dec 15th, 2005
07:27:50 AM
Ringbearer - you're a fucking prick
by horsemouth
Dec 15th, 2005
07:30:09 AM
where's Harrys Review of KONG??
by MinasTirithII
Dec 15th, 2005
07:30:21 AM
Drexl - Same Here
by MinasTirithII
Dec 15th, 2005
07:47:43 AM
My God this has been some pathetic talkback readin'
by BendersShinyAss
Dec 15th, 2005
07:49:31 AM
A list of bad movies, over hyped and loved by so many
by BendersShinyAss
Dec 15th, 2005
08:05:21 AM
Nice review, Mori. And I have to admit, I wouldn't mind see
by minderbinder
Dec 15th, 2005
08:31:33 AM
there's this construction site....
by BendersShinyAss
Dec 15th, 2005
08:37:39 AM
Don't ban Ringbearer, perish the thought.
by FluffyUnbound
Dec 15th, 2005
08:54:00 AM
I Agree 100% On The KONG vs. HITLER Movie!
by ZombieSolutions
Dec 15th, 2005
08:56:08 AM
People complaing about 3 hours
by MinasTirithII
Dec 15th, 2005
09:22:01 AM
The difference is...
by BendersShinyAss
Dec 15th, 2005
09:24:47 AM
You know...
by Mr Nice Gaius
Dec 15th, 2005
09:33:55 AM
And?
by Gheorghe Zamfir
Dec 15th, 2005
09:45:29 AM
Anyone read Richard Schickel's review in Time Magazine?...
by Kid Z
Dec 15th, 2005
09:47:49 AM
"Will there be boobies?"
by Miami Mofo
Dec 15th, 2005
09:47:52 AM
RE: All you Kong lovers think about this...
by Mr Nice Gaius
Dec 15th, 2005
09:48:07 AM
Sorry Gus, but it had to be said.
by Mr Nice Gaius
Dec 15th, 2005
09:48:58 AM
Vern may be the funniest, but Moriarity is clearly the BEST revi
by Dagan
Dec 15th, 2005
09:57:10 AM
Kid Z - Time is a liberal rag - Trust me, not many Republicans r
by Dagan
Dec 15th, 2005
09:58:09 AM
Way more fun than LOTR
by thegreenvortex
Dec 15th, 2005
10:24:23 AM
"Any movie that features white people sailing off to the Third W
by aikimoe
Dec 15th, 2005
10:31:39 AM
I don't think I've ever seen anything quite as sad as Ri
by devil0509
Dec 15th, 2005
10:31:58 AM
Yo, Ringbearer
by Tenenbaum
Dec 15th, 2005
10:35:48 AM
Attn: Ringbearer9
by Mr Nice Gaius
Dec 15th, 2005
10:38:02 AM
BIG NEWS!!! Peter Jackson's To Remake Disney's Classic S
by ZombieSolutions
Dec 15th, 2005
10:46:52 AM
It's an old, baseless argument, Gus...
by aikimoe
Dec 15th, 2005
10:47:28 AM
A good movie with three big flaws
by Movietool
Dec 15th, 2005
10:48:05 AM
Why Kong works...
by Batutta
Dec 15th, 2005
11:02:12 AM
BAD TASTE OWNS YOUR ASS PINCHE JURAS
by Uncle_Les
Dec 15th, 2005
11:07:05 AM
The racism claim is only partially valid in the original, and it
by FluffyUnbound
Dec 15th, 2005
11:07:47 AM
Gus Van Rant
by Mr Nice Gaius
Dec 15th, 2005
11:10:23 AM
Wow, I have been reading a bit of this thread and I am amazed! M
by anchorite
Dec 15th, 2005
11:14:53 AM
another reason KK2k5 "fixes" the racism of the original.
by minderbinder
Dec 15th, 2005
11:22:35 AM
GUS VAN RANT and DRUDGE
by Mr Nice Gaius
Dec 15th, 2005
11:23:11 AM
Having not seen it
by BendersShinyAss
Dec 15th, 2005
11:23:25 AM
KING KONG: The HUBRIS Edition DVD
by ZombieSolutions
Dec 15th, 2005
11:24:16 AM
Agreed
by PeterPeterPeter
Dec 15th, 2005
11:39:20 AM
I don't know, Mack. Wouldn't Denham saying "Greed kille
by FluffyUnbound
Dec 15th, 2005
11:46:40 AM
I was expecting Kong to kill Denham at the theater.
by George Newman
Dec 15th, 2005
12:09:02 PM
Racism claims for this film are racist themselves
by Dagan
Dec 15th, 2005
12:27:57 PM
Loved it!
by beelkay
Dec 15th, 2005
12:31:35 PM
Well, Drudge certainly doesn't credit you as the source, Gus
by Mr Nice Gaius
Dec 15th, 2005
12:36:42 PM

by drjones
Dec 15th, 2005
12:47:50 PM
Please Gus, don't insult my intelligence.
by Mr Nice Gaius
Dec 15th, 2005
12:51:36 PM
Beauty DID and NEEDS to kill the beast.
by Batutta
Dec 15th, 2005
01:03:09 PM
Gus Van Rant = Plagiarizer
by Mr Nice Gaius
Dec 15th, 2005
01:04:38 PM
The beast was brought to the modern world
by MinasTirithII
Dec 15th, 2005
01:05:56 PM
"modern world sucks in comparison" - Uhhhh, sure...
by Dagan
Dec 15th, 2005
01:12:03 PM
ol' painless----still waiting for a response....oh wait, tha
by Thunderballs
Dec 15th, 2005
01:12:07 PM

by drjones
Dec 15th, 2005
01:15:45 PM
Dagan, we are talking about a movis
by MinasTirithII
Dec 15th, 2005
01:20:14 PM
Kong Wednesday Box Office
by Tenenbaum
Dec 15th, 2005
01:21:13 PM
the reason people attack ringbearer9 is
by slappy jones
Dec 15th, 2005
01:28:20 PM
and not only that but my post if stuffed full with errors...sorr
by slappy jones
Dec 15th, 2005
01:29:41 PM
Saw it...Loved it. It certainly lives up to the hype.
by vinceklortho
Dec 15th, 2005
01:32:16 PM
Wait... KONG DIES?!?!
by ZombieSolutions
Dec 15th, 2005
01:34:05 PM
hasn't had a great opening day at the old box office
by slappy jones
Dec 15th, 2005
01:41:32 PM
Just a movie.....
by MinasTirithII
Dec 15th, 2005
02:05:24 PM
But what would I know about the
by MinasTirithII
Dec 15th, 2005
02:13:15 PM
Ringbearer, was there anything good about it?
by MontyPigeon
Dec 15th, 2005
02:41:52 PM
ringbear9 - the anti-plant
by MinasTirithII
Dec 15th, 2005
02:43:04 PM
Moriarty is ALWAYS suspect because of his hatred for John Wayne.
by Borgnine JR
Dec 15th, 2005
02:50:53 PM
Right !!! With a few minor exceptions...
by ipfgodfather
Dec 15th, 2005
03:21:54 PM
Bender, I liked your joke
by Juggernaut125
Dec 15th, 2005
03:32:21 PM
Pokemon: The Movie had a bigger opening day than King Kong 2005.
by Atticus Finch
Dec 15th, 2005
03:43:58 PM
Ok thanks Ringbearer
by MontyPigeon
Dec 15th, 2005
04:03:18 PM
Bones notes up top
by 7Cal
Dec 15th, 2005
04:45:23 PM
OT (ha!) - want to look at Keira for a few?
by ikkyu
Dec 15th, 2005
05:11:54 PM
Moriarty is gonna be on, Attack of the show?
by Orionsangels
Dec 15th, 2005
06:08:11 PM
why has nobody mentioned
by Mr Brownstone
Dec 15th, 2005
06:09:03 PM
Anyone who thinks the beginning has no bearing on the themes...
by funkydipshit
Dec 16th, 2005
04:54:20 AM
Anyone Who Thinks The Beginning Has Any Bearing On The Themes...
by TheRealMoriarty
Dec 16th, 2005
05:05:46 AM
Thunderballsack
by ol' painless
Dec 16th, 2005
05:38:16 AM
Art vs Mass Entertainment
by Thunderballs
Dec 16th, 2005
11:47:53 AM
RINGY, you sound like a pretentious HATER
by Drexl
Dec 16th, 2005
12:47:08 PM
I can dig it, Thunderballs
by ol' painless
Dec 16th, 2005
04:07:04 PM
ol' painless---touche
by Thunderballs
Dec 16th, 2005
07:27:57 PM
Hey does anyone here know of a movie that ringbearer9 actually l
by Thirteen 13
Dec 16th, 2005
07:31:15 PM
Thirteen 13 - Badlands
by Thunderballs
Dec 16th, 2005
09:15:04 PM
happyhappyjoyjoy, you humorless twit
by devil0509
Dec 17th, 2005
03:54:29 PM
GREAT REVIEW
by WoodyStiffer
Dec 17th, 2005
11:53:29 PM
Liked the movie...it could have gone from good to great though
by Lezbo Milk
Dec 18th, 2005
07:37:30 AM
Well so far at the box office
by Thirteen 13
Dec 18th, 2005
02:19:17 PM
Hey Moviemack - "that movies - especially the ones discussed on
by Thirteen 13
Dec 18th, 2005
02:26:19 PM
Bo don't know action
by 900LBGorilla
Dec 18th, 2005
02:48:09 PM
BOXOFFICE
by WoodyStiffer
Dec 18th, 2005
03:57:24 PM
moviemack's dissertation (albeit brief) on the postmodern ni
by YackBacker
Dec 18th, 2005
06:26:40 PM
Moviemack and the neverending smackdown
by 900LBGorilla
Dec 19th, 2005
10:03:11 PM
Something was missing...
by elric666
Dec 20th, 2005
11:41:42 AM
Moviemack
by 900LBGorilla
Dec 21st, 2005
08:51:33 PM
Call 1-800 dumbass! Because some of you are full a monkey shit
by Orionsangels
Dec 21st, 2005
09:59:37 PM
Moviemack
by 900LBGorilla
Dec 22nd, 2005
07:11:00 PM
Orion & nutsy comments
by 900LBGorilla
Dec 22nd, 2005
07:20:03 PM
That's why I went to see the movie for, good special effects
by Orionsangels
Dec 23rd, 2005
09:39:49 PM

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