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Rumor Du Jour: The Return of Captain Kirk!

Hey folks, Harry here - this makes me giggle like my robotic animatronic living chimpanzee bust sitting upon the snow fox pelt from Little Big Horn. I love the idea of Mirror Mirror KIRK kicking ass like Edmond O'Brien in the WILD BUNCH, in space. Just a delicious rumor for now - but - Patrick Stewart recently commented that he was ready to do another Trek into the Stars. Could be... could be...

WILLIAM SHATNER to return for new "STAR TREK" movie? reports that Captain Kirk might be returning to the bridge of the Enterprise for the next "Star Trek" film. Not only that - he'll be joined by Patrick Stewart's Captain Picard and Scott Bakula's Johnathan Archer, of "The Next Generation" and "Enterprise", respectively.

The site claims that the idea to set the next "Trek" movie as a prequel, with the action centering on the students of the Starfleet Academy, has been trashed. Instead, they're considering doing a sequel that will be set in the "Mirror" Universe - which we've seen in both "Star Trek" and "Enterprise" before - which will make it possible for several of the 'captains' to team up. (After all, there's no rules/no continuity restrictions in the 'Mirror' universe).

"Apparently Shatner was in talks to do a guest role on Enterprise, but it didn’t work out. Why? Apparently he wanted a) more money b) would rather do Trek films. Solution? The ideas for the episode of the “Enterprise” episode he was going to do will now be incorporated into a movie. Yep, Captain kirk’s back", says the site. "It’ll be Shatner, Captain Picard and maybe Archer".

Let's just hope this new "Trek" movie is better than the last one - "Star Trek : Nemesis"!


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  • Dec. 13, 2005, 5:23 p.m. CST

    Sounds stupid


  • Dec. 13, 2005, 5:24 p.m. CST

    oh, star trek.

    by mocky_puppet

    "let's get all three captains together in the mirror universe and they can fight a threat together!" ugh. what about captain janeway and the indian with the head tattoo? why not bring them in? this movie will make eight dollars.

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 5:25 p.m. CST

    Yay! Er, I mean..."yawwwnnnn"

    by superhero

    Pooh on Star Trek...Pooh on it!

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 5:28 p.m. CST

    To bad to be true

    by MajorOcelot

    Nuff Said

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 5:28 p.m. CST

    Kirk is The Shat

    by HypeEndsHere

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 5:31 p.m. CST

    great rumour, but no

    by monorail77

    this will not happen. Picard is way too fat. He needs to ose a bunch of weight to look as good as Shatner

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 5:31 p.m. CST

    Wow... #5...

    by The Beast

    I finally made it to number 5, and I don't care at all. I mean, I liked generations, but dude, I"m no trekkie, and Shatner ain't no spring chicken. This is a lst ditch effort to save a dead franchise

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 5:31 p.m. CST

    Better be a musical...

    by bigj3rk

    Shat's CD rules.

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 5:32 p.m. CST

    Oh dear lord

    by Aves

    Why can't we please just leave this ALONE? Star Trek is dead. It had its last great moment in First Contact. It was on life support in Insurrection and it went comatose in Nemesis. Enterprise was just the delusional family member who didn't want to pull the plug. The entire idea just seems absurd. Shatner should do what he does best now. "Denny Crane." I swear if they do this and he says "Captain Kirk," in that tone I'll lose it.

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 5:33 p.m. CST

    Not that I'm excited about the idea anyway, but if Rick Berm

    by kdraines

    I swear it's like he deliberately set out to kill the Star Trek franchise.

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 5:37 p.m. CST


    by jesuschrist

    To hell with Shatner. Takei, baby Takei!!! Your ass owned, by his powerful Georgeness. Feel it. Know it. Accept it. OWNED and operated by Takei Inc.

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 5:38 p.m. CST

    Ummm, no...

    by Childe Roland

    ...thank you all the same. Seriously, why not just dig up Bones and Scotty and sodomize their corpses. Let the damn franchise rest in peace, already, and with a shred of dignity.

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 5:39 p.m. CST

    If Patrick Stewart really is interested, can we assume that Prof

    by Lance Rock

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 5:44 p.m. CST

    What a shock

    by optimus122

    The complete assholes who inhabit the AICN talkbacks are taking a negative tone to this great news. This premise would be awesome if done correctly , please all of you just die already.

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 5:52 p.m. CST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    by Doom II

    Star Trek need s aloooong break. Shows like Galactica and Farscape run circles around Trek. Shit, any given episode of Battlestar Galactica looks better and has stronger performances than 3/4 of the Trek movie to date. Why bother. Take the money that this movie will cost, go to a film school and just drop it in the lap of a "promising young student" who has a script and a vision.

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 5:54 p.m. CST

    Singer should helm this one, if it's true

    by Sir Loin

    That would seriously rock. A murderous, unhinged Mirror Kirk fighting Picard & company? Oh yes. As for you insta-haters, go back to your little LOTR figurine collection and shut up. Contrary to your bloated self-importance, nobody cares what you think.

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 5:57 p.m. CST

    Goatees for all!

    by zombieslayer

    This actually gets me really excited. Kirk owns my ass, although Sulu will probably demand a reach around...

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 5:58 p.m. CST

    Evil Kirk will PWN ALL YOUR ASSES!!! This is great news!!

    by Godzilla2004

    If this movie was about an old evil kirk from the mirror mirror universe that somehow was in our universe just blowing shit up.. it would be awesome!! Make the movie like wrath of khan.. but with an evil kirk.. and have him go out in a blaze of crazy glory.. I also want a scene in it where the evil kirks strangles spock with his hands while yelling "I'll.... kill.. yOU!!!!" over and over!!!! YEAHH!H!

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 6:01 p.m. CST


    by jorson2

    It's a cheap, desperate idea, but the Trekkie in me hopes it's true. I'd love to see the aggressive Kirk butt heads with the diplomat Picard, something they missed out on sorely in "Generations (Let us sit upon the grass and tell sad tales of the death of kings.)." As for Archer, not so sure -- never latched onto the "Enterprise" cast. 'Also never thought the Next Generation movies lived up to either the standards of the original cast or the Next Generation TV series. Somehow the Next Generation movies all seem a bit short-changed in every department. As for Professor X dying in X-Men 3, there is a funeral scene in the trailer (with Brian Singer next to Beast at the graveside), and no sign of Patrick Stewart in attendance. It would be fitting (though I don't know why...).

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 6:02 p.m. CST


    by Wellesian

    Not sure I like this idea. Star Trek continues to make the mistakes it has with movies since the late 80s - its too wrapped up in being Star Trek. The last truly Roddenberry-esque good Trek movie was Undiscovered Country. Why? Because there was a theme and issue other than humans fighting aliens in big ships with cool effects. This 'Captain's Courageous' idea in an alternate timeline is going to alienate all but the Trek loyalists. Trek needs to a) eliminate all involvement of Berman and Braga, b) tell a story that has some cultural or emotional relevance to the times in which we live.

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 6:02 p.m. CST

    Sounds worse than "Nemesis" already.

    by Cosmik

    Kirk is dead. Shatner's old and fat. Stewart's bored with Trek and Bakula's character remained bland after 4 seasons. The Mirror Universe idea has been squeezed dry. And this smell like bull.

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 6:03 p.m. CST

    Nice rumor there Harry but since Paramount is shutting down star

    by Citizen Arcane

    ....I wouldn't count on any Star Trek any time soon. I do admit that it's about the only thing Trek I'd watch though, so nice fanfic.

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 6:05 p.m. CST

    Because a converted TV episode

    by Fried Gold

    will really have the grand scale of an epic big screen Trek film

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 6:06 p.m. CST

    Patrick Stewart does a supporting character on American Dad

    by Terry_1978

    I highly doubt this would be beneath him.

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 6:06 p.m. CST

    Patrick Stewart does a supporting character on American Dad

    by Terry_1978

    I highly doubt this would be beneath him.

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 6:08 p.m. CST


    by rabban

    patrick stewart: "You're not married, you haven't got a girlfriend and you've never seen Star Trek?... Good Lord!"

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 6:10 p.m. CST

    Yeah, sure, and I have shuttlecraft to sell you, too

    by Heckles

    Every fan-boy asshat makes this garb up on some Trekkie message board on a weekly basis. Come on now.

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 6:10 p.m. CST

    Well to set a few TBers straight,

    by Citizen Arcane

    The last great moment in Trek wasn't First Contact, it was the final episode of DS9. The mirror universe isn't played out, in fact the mirror episode of Enterprise was uncharacteristically good. A movie based on an episode can work. Wrath of Khan? And this made up rumor could have actual potential but as I said, when Paramount nukes their Star Trek site, which they plan on doing in January, odds are there is no Trek on the horizon.

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 6:13 p.m. CST

    Patrick Stewart

    by tonagan

    "But by then it's too late, I've seen everything..." He's gotta write the script for this!

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 6:26 p.m. CST

    I'm gonna say, errrrr.... no. Hell no. In fact...

    by Roguewriter

    No goddamn way in hell. This idea is way too stupid -- and that's even taking into account the general stupidity of the STAR TREK universe over the course of the last several franchise installments (both TV and film). The only thing less likely than this? The old TREK captains are brought together by Jessica Simpson, whose lead role in the film is setting up STAR TREK: NEWLYWEDS, the series. And, really, given the decrepit state of Hollywood today, that idea's not actually a whole lot less likely than this insipid "concept." Let STAR TREK rest awhile, willya? Jesus, stop beating the damn thing -- it's DEAD, Jim.

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 6:30 p.m. CST

    What?!?! No Benjamin Sisko? For shame....

    by BrashHulk

    Avery Brooks rocked as Captain Sisko. If anyone doubts, I advise you to watch the episode called "By The Pale Moonlight" and re-think.

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 6:40 p.m. CST

    Why did they never do a Next Gen Mirror Universe episode?

    by Shan

    Surely it would have been better than a lot of the others and it would have been interesting to see the effect of what Kirk and Co did. (Yes I know they did in DS9 but no evil Picard! evil Riker! the rest of them! evil!!!!)

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 6:46 p.m. CST

    brashhulk, get your shit together, come to your senses!

    by Holodigm

    it was IN The Pale Moonlight. oh for the love of thor i've just sunk lower than i ever should have been allowed.

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 6:48 p.m. CST

    . . .

    by PadewanKlaatu

    My friends . . . there is nothing else to say . . . if we, as Star Trek fans, are to accept this as anything even approaching a good idea, then it is sad. Others have said it many times, if the future of the Trek franchise comes in the form of some Doctor-Who-Five-Doctors-esque outing in which the captains - Kirk, Picard, Archer (and it wouldn't surprise me if Janeway and Sisko get dug up at some point), then it is something that echoes the Borg Queen's line in First Contact: "Watch how your future ends" because the Trek franchise is, if this goes ahead, as dead as Roddenberry, as DeForest Kelley, as dead as James Doohan and as dead as Michael Piller. Trek finally succumbed with the travesty that was Nemesis. The ends of Voyager, of Deep Space Nine and of Enterprise were just the detritus. RIP Star Trek, it's been a long journey, but we should simply accept that and allow the franchise to find that "far better resting place" that it has been denied for far too long by those who simply sought to whip a few more dollars out of a long-dead-horse.

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 6:49 p.m. CST

    What No Capt. Janeway?!?!?! Blasphemy!!!

    by DOGSOUP

    We all know that Voyager was the BEST ST EVER!!! How can we possibly get through another movie without Captain Janeway?!?! It's inconcievable!! I'm writing a nasty email and starting an online petition RIGHT THE FUCK NOW!!!

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 6:54 p.m. CST

    Patrick Stewart ...

    by MajorOcelot

    If you read his personal quotes on IMDB, it seems he has great love for animated comedies. It all makes sense now that he is on American Dad. He mentioned his cameo on The Simpsons as one of his favorite career moments or something like that. He also speaks about how much he loves Beavis and Butthead. Its really fascinating.

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 6:55 p.m. CST

    In the Pale Moonlight?

    by hulk_beanpoll

    Please. I like Sisko and I think Brooks is a fine actor, but the further into DS9 he got, the more hammy his performance became. They just let him run riot and the scenes in Pale Moonlight where he angrily addresses the audience are a prime example. Compare it to his beautifully underplayed emotional performance in the pilot episode. By season six he was channelling the ghost of Shatner (including vocal inflections) to a point where it was embarressing. He's capable of great things but the directors badly needed to reign him in.

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 6:57 p.m. CST

    I agree...

    by Wellesian

    with Padewan Klaatu. If this is the best they can do, Trek is dead. They're so wrapped up in "wouldn't it be cool if..." that they've forgotten that its all about the story. Roddenberry knew that Trek should be a reflection of our world, and the possibilities of the future. They need to take a fucking risk. Stewart's a fan of Transmetropolitan, let Warren Ellis write a Trek picture. There's war, genocide, death, murder, dwindling natural resources, natural disaster, racial disquietude, conflict galore in the world. But, they lack the balls to tackle those. I wonder what would happen if Paramount passed control of this over to Dreamworks. Would Spielberg, as Exec. Prod., on a Trek picture have any positive effect?

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 7:03 p.m. CST

    Patrick Duffy will play Son of Khan

    by Det. John Kimble

    This smells a bit.

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 7:04 p.m. CST

    Star Trek must die.

    by Batutta

    Don't get me wrong. I've always been a fan of Star Trek, but this series has been bled dry to ever diminishing returns. Just let it go, folks. I remember hearing Shatner on Stern saying he was done with Star Trek, and he sounded done. Put a nail in the coffin and move on Trekkers.

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 7:09 p.m. CST


    by beelkay

    There are no continuity issues with the mirror universe? I thought that time ran exactly the same there as here...Anyway, sounds like a fun movie. I'd drop Archer, though.

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 7:12 p.m. CST


    by DOGSOUP

    Even if Patrick Steward would make the most awesome Spider Jerusalem...DON'T! IT'LL GET FUCKED UP!!!!

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 7:13 p.m. CST


    by Stanton

    Oooh, bastards stole my idea for the next film: Mirror Universe Terrans claim asylum in Trek's universe, and then the Alliance declare all-out war. It would be a good way of giving under-used actors bigger parts and giving DS9 and VOY actors cameos... Marina Sirtis would rock as a telepathic-psycho-bitch-interrogator. But Archer? ARCHER??? (a) Enterprise was shite-lite, (b) Berman used Star Trek as target practice the last few years, and (c) a mirror universe AND time travel story?? Hands up for over-egged pudding... Anyone...?

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 7:19 p.m. CST

    Whoever thinks First Contact is a good movie needs to face the f

    by Shermdawg

    Take away the Zephfram Cochran angle, and what's left is basically a scene for scene rehash of Aliens.

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 7:20 p.m. CST

    I know you have all been anxiously awaiting my opinion on this s

    by cutest_of_borg

    FUCK ALL OF YOU NAYSAYERS OUT THERE! If done right this could be great. Bring Singer onboard to direct and I'm betting this will be a balls-out adventure. So kiss my ass you sarcastic bunch of Battlebarge lovin' pussies.

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 7:21 p.m. CST

    Will Bryan Singer be directing?

    by The Dude Abides

    It might be a good move for the franchise if they nabbed a visionary like Singer for the film.

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 7:22 p.m. CST

    Gonna suck bigtime but......

    by Gorrister sounds so stupid that I just HAVE to see it! BRING IT ON!!!!! ;)

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 7:24 p.m. CST

    Send Star Trek into hibernation!

    by SideshowMel

    I agree with some of the above statements. I think Enterprise partially shows that Star Trek needs some time to rest. The studios are pushing WAY to hard to keep it alive when really all it needs is to rest for a while. In ten years or more, try again. Or just watch Star Trek: New Voyages.

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 7:37 p.m. CST


    by DiernaSoul

    Uh an AU movie with Archer, Picard, and Kirk??? Er but Mirror Empress Hoshi killed Mirror Kirk wannabe Archer! If they're gonna be bringing Archer back then Trip should be braught back to life too!! GRR!!

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 7:42 p.m. CST




  • Dec. 13, 2005, 7:43 p.m. CST

    might be cool, if done right

    by Chief Redcock

    i wonder if it'll be mirror shatner or the real thing

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 7:47 p.m. CST

    I wouldn't call Singer visionary.

    by Shermdawg

    That's not a knock. I just wouldn't consider him visionary. The Wachowski's? Yes. Robert Rodriguez? Yes. Christopher Nolan? You betcha. Singer? Not Quite. I think he'd be awesome for the Trek franchise, though. The guy's a huge trekkie, and his favorite sci-fi character is Spock. So if he does end up doing this, you can bet your ass that Nimoy will appear. That's if Uwe Boll's Seaman: The Movie doesn't tie him up. :)

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 7:50 p.m. CST


    by Junior Frenger

    Had to be said.

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 7:50 p.m. CST

    Evil Ezri....

    by bib fortuna

    mmmmm..that was nice... wait, what? Forget star trek for now. Good run but it's over. How about a 'Galaxy Quest' sequel!

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 7:50 p.m. CST

    I'll Take the Horns Down

    by Wellesian

    And try to look on the positive side of this. Don't know about the inclusion of Archer, but wouldn't it be great that single greatest threat to the Star Trek Universe is one driven, pissed off Tiberius? As ruthless, skilled, and effective a killer, and battlefield commander as Kirk squaring off in a balls to the wall, winner take all battle to the last with Picard on the Enterprise and Riker on the Titan. How fun would it be to see Tiberius effortlessly cripple the flag-ship of the Federation with its once greatest hero become its most dire enemy since the Borg. There is a bit of coolness here...if they get the fucking story right.

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 7:54 p.m. CST


    by Darth Satan

    This sounds truly dreadful. Now they can finally kill off the Star Trek franchise.

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 7:59 p.m. CST

    Just plain stupid.

    by MondoGundark

    Sorry Trekkers, it's tough to let go, but give it up already. Paramount and Berman ruined the series and there isn't a remaining shred of vision left in this "property". They should dismemeber the corpse and send the wife a corsage. ( paraphrase Mr. Burns...) I, for one, would LOVE to see a revival of the franchise reconceived from the Klingon perspective, as we follow them in battle, fighting the evil Federation. Klingons could be modeled after the revolutionary Chinese. Just my 2 cents.

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 8 p.m. CST

    Nobody cares about anything besides Kirk,Spock and Picard. This


    It's about time someone at Paramont took their head out of their ass. All Star Trek fans want to see is Kirk,Spock and Picard. Nobody gives a shit about anything else. This film will put ST back on the map.

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 8 p.m. CST

    And another thing...

    by MondoGundark

    Make the original series available on iTunes as video downloads as soon as possible, dorks!

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 8:01 p.m. CST

    And another

    by MondoGundark

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 8:02 p.m. CST


    by MondoGundark

    Does George Takei own his OWN ass?

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 8:04 p.m. CST

    The Cylons will destroy them all!

    by Knugen


  • Dec. 13, 2005, 8:05 p.m. CST

    I actually really like the idea of a Mirror Mirror film

    by riskebiz

    Glad they are finally thinking about doing one. I just loved the raving Kirk from the original. I hope he's the main villain.

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 8:06 p.m. CST

    "this makes me giggle like my robotic animatronic living chimpan

    by Neosamurai85

    ... ... ... Holy... MAN! Peace.

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 8:07 p.m. CST



    Imagine the evil Kirk vs the diplomat Picard. This could be fucking insane. I want to see it NOW.

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 8:08 p.m. CST

    and at the end of the movie it all ends up being a recreation on

    by The Outlander

    This must be what going insane feels like.

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 8:21 p.m. CST

    Kirk? Screw Kirk!!

    by Blue_Demon

    Set it in the Captain Pike era! Make it look slightly retro and film a feature length remake of "The Cage!" ( or Menagerie, whatever ) Come on man, that was the sweetest episode ever!

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 8:21 p.m. CST

    Does this coffin need any more nails?

    by Horseflesh

    What a fucking silly idea. Trek needs a few decades off if this is the best they can do. If you're excited about this idea you deserve to choke on your uniform. You know you have one.

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 8:23 p.m. CST

    Pleeeease Let Brannon and Braga be at the helm....

    by chromedome that there will be no limit to the Suckage. It will set new record lows, and the audience response will be so cold that it will offset global warming.... Of course they MUST be the ones to have thought this one up, since they are the masters and commanders of "no rules/no continuity restrictions" because they utterly destroy them wherever they may be found. Dumbasses...

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 8:24 p.m. CST

    I would love another Trek movie...

    by LeckoManiac

    and has the new Poisden trailer up...I leave now to get in line for Kong at midnight here in the Windy City!!

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 8:41 p.m. CST

    Hey there's a POSEIDON trailer up.

    by Gilkuliehe

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 8:42 p.m. CST

    MondoGundark, about Takei's ass

    by jesuschrist

    Good question. Yes he does. But as an assowner and assmaster supreme. He rents his own ass to tenants for a higher rent and lives in one of his own satellite asses. It's in the Valley with a swimming pool and great view.

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 8:44 p.m. CST

    That was one HUGE FUCKING WAVE man.

    by Gilkuliehe

    Me likes it.

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 8:48 p.m. CST

    Chromedone: You'll never get Brannon AND Braga back in the s

    by Hercules

    Rumor has it Brannon slept with Braga's wife, and Braga plagiarized an idea of Brannon's. For the record, it appears that Braga hates Brannon much worse than Brannon hates Braga.

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 8:56 p.m. CST

    god, there's a buddy-cop movie in there somewhere

    by HypeEndsHere

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 8:57 p.m. CST

    Bring on the Q!

    by Evil Chicken

    I would absolutely love to see Picard and Q on the big screen. Have Picard join the Q continuum at the end, cap it off with a

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 9:02 p.m. CST

    Somewhere George Takei is laughing that throaty laugh of his...

    by fiester

    ...and then touching himself. Like all of the Trekkies out there do every time one of these balloons gets floated. How old is Shatner now? He's not exactly action hero material anymore. They need to move on and reinvent.

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 9:09 p.m. CST

    What was so bad about Nemisis?


    I admit it wasn't great, but it was better than Insurrection, and miles better than The Final Frontier. Not exactly high praise I know, but still, it was ok. If they make this, they should include Sisko, but replace Brooks with Dennis Haysbert, I would love to see him as a starfleet captain.

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 9:11 p.m. CST


    by Wellesian

    Any idea on how reliable this source is (or is this just another Trekker circle jerk trying to prove to Paramount that there's still an audience)? Reasonably, Shatner would be back if the money's right, and Stewart would do anything for Brian Singer. But, between Superman, Logan's Run, and all of the other projects he's mentioned recently, I doesn't seem feasible to me for the forseeable future.

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 9:12 p.m. CST

    IT doesn't seem feasible

    by Wellesian

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 9:15 p.m. CST


    by Incrediburgible

    You can use Shatner, just animated the whole film as a super high-end state of the art Toy Story, with 100% CGI Original Series characters and sets, and make it a musical, and make it smart and make it funny.

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 9:17 p.m. CST

    Uh ..... Herc?

    by hulk_beanpoll

    "You'll never get Brannon AND Braga back in the same room together" We probably WILL get those two in the same room together because .... 'Brannon Braga' is one man. Unless he got split by a transporter accident or something.

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 9:20 p.m. CST


    by VibroCount

    Kirk! Picard! Archer! Scotty! Spock! Troi! Janeway! Hoshi! 7 of 9! All looking exactly like every Tom Hank character in Polar Express! I'm there!

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 9:26 p.m. CST

    Why not make an Excelsior movie starring Capt. Homosexual Sulu

    by My Ass Smells

    I'll buy a $10 dollar ticket for that baby!

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 9:28 p.m. CST

    Christ, people are still talking about this after 3 hours?

    by Citizen Arcane

    I told you, Paramount is shutting down their Star Trek website. ow more final can you get than that? It's over. Expect a Trekkie mass ritual suicide at the end of the year.

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 9:31 p.m. CST

    This can't happen because..

    by God of Gamblers

    I saw Kirk die in "Generations." His body was pulped by the catwalk thing. That's why his bloated frame fit under that tiny pile of rocks.

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 9:42 p.m. CST

    Kirk Rules the Universe

    by cookylamoo

    He'll kick Adama's pock-marked ass and take Arin Sun as his bitch.

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 9:43 p.m. CST

    Kobyashi Myru.......

    by Capt. Blackadder

    All over again. :-(

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 9:47 p.m. CST

    Well, Hercules, how did they record the Generations and First Co

    by Tall_Boy

    They sound downright positively chummy and friendly durring those tracks. Also, I love the idea of aMirror universe movie. It'll tank, hard, but it would rule.

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 9:48 p.m. CST

    Sulu's gay?

    by Capt. Blackadder

    Say it ain't so! Let Frakes ease back into the directors chair.

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 9:52 p.m. CST

    The best Nemesis review ever

    by Citizen Arcane

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 9:58 p.m. CST

    Didn't the general boredom of Enterprise leading to the canc

    by JediShaft

    Enterprise is not Firefly, no one cares. Dispite a 35 year head start, no one cares.

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 10:01 p.m. CST



    Enough said

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 10:02 p.m. CST

    Christ,next Tasha Yar will reappear...

    by The True Priapic

    with a saggy ass and droopy tits.For gods sake,let Trek die for a while.If not do it properly and make a good Next Gen film instead of stunt plot ideas to build hype.Wankers.Why include Archer?His show is over.OVER!ahh,shit....Data is dead which means they'd have to rejiggle the facts or set an entire film about the Search for Data.Jesus Christ,bring back a 29 year old Denise Crosby and make her wear that Naked Now belly dancin' outfit for the whole film.Preferably hard core action with Traci Lords as one of those green assed space whores.What?That's impossible?And Lords ass is REALLy green these days...ugghhhh!!!This is Trek anything is possible.....except making a half decent film.

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 10:04 p.m. CST

    Sure, I can see it...

    by Red Ned Lynch

    ...mirror universe Kirk has finally tired of scoring with space babes, and despairing of ever having a solid long term relationship he comes to our universe after a purely intellectual relationship. He courts Picard, who has similar interests, being, after all, a starship captain and star of a Trek series, but Picard, in Jeffrey mode, expects real romance. Their relationship, and probably the federation or something, are torn asunder as Kirk flees the relationship to blow up no longer expected to be used locales and characters, as well as other things we'll be told to pretend are important. Meanwhile, with the help of Jeri Ryan's plastic surgeon Picard tries to transform himself into someone Kirk would find attractive, in an effort to save their relationship, the federation, and whatever else they put on the table. Call it "The Mirror Mirror Has Two Faces".

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 10:06 p.m. CST

    WELSHIE!!!! NOOOO!!!

    by ZeroCorpse

    Honestly, this sounds like a good idea. We need Kirk for it to be Trek. And if B&B are done as a team, then maybe we'll see something good in the Trek franchise finally. Goodness knows B&B really fucked it all up.

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 10:07 p.m. CST

    KIRK ROLL!!!

    by dr.bulber

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 10:12 p.m. CST

    Or if you don't like that one, how about...

    by Red Ned Lynch

    ...setting it all in the Mirror Universe, with Kirk being murdered in the first scene and Janeway pulling a William Hurt from Gorky Park or Rutger Hauer in whatever movie that was where he was investigating a murder in Nazi Germany (unless I dreamed that). She has to figure out which cast member (sorry, crew member) from which cast (ummm...crew, I guess)killed Kirk. And the future of...oh let's say the conflict between the Borg and those "they're even scarier than the Borg--really" aliens from Voyager hangs in the balance for both universes because of something new they make up. And eventually Mirror Janeway and regular Janeway have to investigate together cast/crew members from both universes. You can call it the Mirror Mirror Crack'd. Okay. Done now.

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 10:12 p.m. CST

    Don't they have any better stories than rehashing this idea?

    by UncleSam

    Either think of a new storyline or an entirely new cast for movie instead of relying on the TV characters.

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 10:15 p.m. CST


    by Nesskid

    What's a Star Trek?

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 10:16 p.m. CST

    The Bring Back Kirk site had this story last July


    BBK had heard runors of this story as far back as Feb of 2005. There have been rumblings of Kirk's return for months now. The original story claimed Kirk and Spock would be in Star Trek 11 along with various characters from other series.

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 10:16 p.m. CST

    Nobody can milk a franchise like Paramount and Braga

    by nexxus7

    Four series, a cartoon, something like 11 movies, a bazillion books. I loved Trek as a kid and it still remains my favorite sci-fi franchise. But for the love of Pete, let the thing rest up for a few years. Has anyone seen Shatner lately? He ain't 35 and svelt anymore. I think the man is having a good old time being a character actor on Boston Legal anyway. The rest of TOS cast is either well past 60 or, rest their souls, passed on. Patrick Stewart will sell anything, I know, but not many tickets to a Trek flick. And the rest of the TNG bridge crew is not in the best of shape (I watched season 4 of ENT on DVD, and it was pretty sad seeing Troi and Ryker popping out of their uniforms). Bakula (sp), try as he may, is about as exciting as white bread. Sisko is in a wormhole (but man, I dug that series. Janeway would only merit another admiral cameo. The time for rehashing is gone. The though of trying to do a big screen flix with that boring ENT crew is absurd. Face it, the only way for Trek to really return is with a fresh crew, a new attitude, awesome tech and designs, and a new production team. For those who long for the magic of TOS, I'd really like to see Paramount pull a Lucas and go back and remaster some of the best episodes with up to date CGI. Imagine ships, planets, and even alien scenes being redone. It probably wouldn't even cost that much. But future series and movies shouldn't come out for at least 4 years, and should start fresh.

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 10:17 p.m. CST

    I mean 5 series

    by nexxus7

    Milk that baby dry.

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 10:25 p.m. CST

    Can someone explain to a non-Trekkie how the mirror universe wor

    by Hideo Kojima

    like.. how did it come to be? why does it have no rules? why does time not apply there? when was it created (both in the real life world of screenwriting and in the Trek universe...)-Thanks.

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 10:25 p.m. CST

    FUCKING AWESOME (Kirk and Picard are back)


    As a Star Trek fan what else could you ask for?

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 10:26 p.m. CST

    Can you answer me this?

    by mtchptty

    Hands up if you've read the Star Trek novel "THE RETURN" about Kirk being kept alive by Borg Tech and includes him going after next-gen crew members. Make that book the movie and you strike gold...

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 10:30 p.m. CST

    Need proof Kirks return would be big business?Just look at the a


    In the few short hours since this story has been posted here at AICN there have been well over 100 posts and the Star Trek sites are burning up with rumors of Kirk's return. Could you say the same about any other aspect of ST? The reason being nobody gives a shit about new ST. They want the real thing back. Kirk's return would be a major media event plus be huge at the box office. Kirk is the only way to save Star Trek. BRING BACK KIRK!!!!

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 10:33 p.m. CST

    Kirk's retun is the only chance the Star Trek franchise has


    If Kirk is not brought back into the next film/tv series I really don't think anyone would care to see it. The only way any new ST project would be a big deal is if Kirk is in the mix. Nobody watched DS9,VOY,ENT for free at home why would they pay to see them on the big screen? ST NEEDS KIRK TO RETURN

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 10:35 p.m. CST


    by admkirk

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 10:40 p.m. CST

    star trek sucks

    by tripp5

    KHAN is the only entity worth anything in the whole god awful franchise.

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 10:46 p.m. CST

    And they say youth rules.

    by EyeofPolyphemus

    People want to see a 74 year old Kirk, 60 year old Rocky and Rambo, a 65 year old Indiana Jones, a 72 year old Sean Connery play bond again, and the Rolling Stones are still touring. When did geriatrics become so hot?

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 10:53 p.m. CST


    by Strabo

    When in the fuck are you going to learn, Paramount? Goddammit this idea fucking sucks.

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 10:54 p.m. CST

    This can ONLY happen if Sisko enters the last battle with the De

    by dommy-gnome

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 11:10 p.m. CST


    by Citizen Arcane

    This is a bullshit rumor and there is nothing on the horizon for Star Trek, per Paramount's own words. Now, as for Hideo Kojima's question about the parallel universe, there are indeed rules. In the parallell universe, Zemphram Cochrane from First Contact, instead of greeting the Vulcan visitors and ushering a peace and prosperity that led into the Federation, gunned them down and instead of a Federation, Earth formed an Empire. So everyone's evil in the parallel universe. Spock has a beard and all the women are sluts and make out with each other. None of that is made up by the way. A parallel universe series would kick ass, come to think of it.

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 11:10 p.m. CST

    Star Trek XII: So Very Tired

    by Flim Springfield

    Someone had to say it...

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 11:18 p.m. CST

    Star Trek movies are a dime a dozen.

    by acroyear77

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 11:21 p.m. CST

    this would have been better after Generations

    by Goatweed

    He said he wasnt happy with the way Kirk ultimately went out, so this would have been a better time for this sort of a movie - and really, Archer is unneeded and not really a part of Trek canon - Roddenberry had nothing to do with his creation. If done in the dark & violent way the Mirror Universe is portrayed, it could be good - but if Berman and/or Braga are on it, it will surely suck balls.

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 11:22 p.m. CST

    "is there a mirror-universe "Q"?"

    by christ_opher

    i vaguely recall a conversation between Q and picard in which Q explains that the Q continuum is beyond exploring space and only concerned with exploring the infinite possibilites of choice... something like that. but that would imply to me that the Q would explore the mirror universe, along with other realities. so there would only be one Q. on the other hand there have been multiple Qs on TNG and voyager, but they all have the same name of "Q" maybe all the members of the Q continuum are the same individual from different realities, including the mirror mirror universe. god im a loser.

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 11:23 p.m. CST

    RE: "Star Trek XII: So Very Tired"

    by Shermdawg

    Um, what happened to Star Trek XI?

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 11:28 p.m. CST

    Okay, I

    by Red Ned Lynch

    This is how you make this movie and give Trek a chance for being relevant at the same cut-rate time. Some mix of galactic uncertainty (increasing intergalactic competition, huge deficits caused by always having the rebuild all of Star Fleet, maybe a horrible attack by some neo-luddite fundamentalist crazies) brings to power within the Federation a group whose policies clearly favor the old core Federation planets, who take the Federation just a step or two down the path that leads to the Mirror Mirror Universe. Picard opposes this, of course, and he

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 11:33 p.m. CST

    mirror mirror star trek tv series starring kirk

    by christ_opher

    actually, giving kirk a mirror mirror star trek tv series seems like a much better idea to me then trying to explain how evil kirk traveled through both parallel universes.... and time, to meet up with picard so he could kick his ass ala wrath of kahn. and for god sake, if such a show was to exist, put it on scifi channel.. and not upn.

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 11:37 p.m. CST

    Denny Crane!

    by docfalken

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 11:40 p.m. CST

    Would you chill about

    by EyeofPolyphemus

    They are shutting down the current site because they sold off the web division. it has nothing to do with the future of the franchise.

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 11:42 p.m. CST

    Why the HELL

    by Ridge

    Can we not get a DEEP SPACE NINE movie to cap off the goddamn series. A tv movie even. Something about Sisko returning from the wormhole maybe 10 years later or something. It was easily the best thought out, most incredibly well acted and developed trek series of them all. For gods sake do it!

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 11:43 p.m. CST

    I will not...

    by Jaka any of this's just too damn big. I'm down for any ST film. And the idea of them finally starting to combine the casts's about fucking time. To be brutally honest. They need to mine this while they still can. As long any part of the orginal casts of ANY of the ST TV shows want to make movies - they should keep making them. Just be realistic. Make smaller movies. Ya know, I'd be beyond fuckin giddy if they made a 40 million dollar ST film with a GREAT STORY. The expectations on these films need to be lowered a little - box office wise! Even if they go 60 million on the budget, with worldwide box office and dvd sales they'll make a tidy profit. So, umm, yeah. More movies please! It's about fuckin time already.

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 11:45 p.m. CST

    Thanks, Herc...

    by chromedome

    ...for the "scoop" It seems, then, that the "no rules/no restrictions" philosophy was not limited to their work.... One now wonders that, going their separate ways, will we have twice the Suckage, or was there a Critical Suckage Mass the likes of which will not be seen again. Hmmmmm....

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 11:47 p.m. CST

    Oh, and in context...

    by Jaka

    ...I've read a couple, or a few, of the mirror universe books, one without knowing it was going to BE a mirror universe book, and they were great. I believe there at least two I read involved Picard and Kirk. All of the William Fucking Shatner/Reeves-Stevenses ST books are quite good. I thought all along that the Shat should get Paramount to work a movie around em...and they should.

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 11:48 p.m. CST

    The Very Best Takei

    by monorail77

    The best Takei work I ever saw was when he ws the "host" for the short film "Chris Elliot, Television Miracle". This was on Letterman years ago when he had a kind of annual short film festival of sorts. They would give celebrities and show regulars something like $5000 and they had to make a short film. The one with George takei was made by, duh, Chris elliot and it was funny as hell. I used to have a copy, but I lost it years ago and I've never been able to find it since. Has anyone heard of this? Does anyone have a copy, or a link to one? Oh please oh please.

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 11:50 p.m. CST

    And in regards to the suckage vortex horizon...

    by Jaka's the books yo! The best Trek of the last 10 years in in the books. And the magic, with which ever set of characters you loved, is there over and over and over. There are at least 50 books I could name that would make better movies than every film since Generations.

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 11:56 p.m. CST


    by Jaka

    But Data's dead, dude. lol

  • homewrecker: Warp 11 played alternate version of their song and themselves at their HUGE Halloween show. Songs that were slow were now fast, etc. Warp 11 really is an amazing band, and when their pilot gets picked up you would have heard of them here first!!

  • Dec. 13, 2005, 11:58 p.m. CST

    I think the mirror universe might save Trek, EVIL KIRK!

    by warp11

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 12:01 a.m. CST

    Will Emma Watson be getting NUDE in this?

    by The_Lion


  • Dec. 14, 2005, 12:08 a.m. CST

    DS9 is the best Trek...

    by Strabo

    ...and I'd love to have a follow-up to the end of the series with Sisko's return, but not so much that I want them to do it before Rick Berman is fired. Berman and the crew running the franchise right now would just fuck DS9 up. Fire Berman. Wait five or six years for BSG to end. Hire RDM and put him in charge of Trek. Then, and only then (I'd accept some other talented person in lieu of RDM, such as the Bryan Singer rumor from a few weeks ago) do I want to see Sisko's return.

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 12:12 a.m. CST

    "Rumor has it Brannon slept with Braga's wife..."

    by LeiaDown&FuckHer

    Well that's okay, given the fact that they're both married to the if Berman had slept with her then there might have been trouble. Fact Check, isle one.

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 12:32 a.m. CST

    Either get Shatner on Slim

    by sundancekeed

    or widen the fuckin' Enterprise. That is all.

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 12:33 a.m. CST

    Slim FAST, damnit

    by sundancekeed

    Hit the wrong button

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 12:43 a.m. CST

    homewrecker: shit, you know a lot about Warp 11.

    by warp11

    So do you prefer their latest album or the their earlier ones? Ever been to a show?

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 12:58 a.m. CST

    listen to

    by bib fortuna

    s.p.o.c.k. very funny band whose songs are all about sci-fi, star trek etc.

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 1:16 a.m. CST

    BRING BACK KIRK, also I agree with Blue_Demon that a Pike era mo

    by Regicidal_Maniac

    The ONLY Trek I've enjoyed in the last few years has been the Return of Kirk novels by Shatner and ghostwriters, get the audiobooks actually read by Bill himself, they rock. An appearance of the mirror universe Kirk is a really cool way to bring back The Shat. Trek has plenty of life in it if only the producers would quit messing with it and trying to intentionally destroy the franchise.

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 1:18 a.m. CST

    Mirror Universe..a Nerds wet dream

    by Rcamacho2278

    finally the battle between who is the better captain will be ended when studios realize nobody gives a shit. they should be making another serenity movie, not any more star trek movies.!

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 1:29 a.m. CST

    Braga's gone

    by DiernaSoul

    Uh why are u all talking about Brannon Braga helming it??? He quit star trek all together. He's stated in recent interviews that he's not associated with star trek anymore. Bryan Singer has shown interest. Just get Singer and Logan to make the movie. Or better yet since Paramount recently baught out Dreamworks let Stephen Spielberg take the helm. :P

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 1:33 a.m. CST

    Another thing about Braga

    by DiernaSoul

    Braga's not married, never has been. He did however have fun with Jeri Ryan for a bit. Where's Manny Coto these days? Oh yea...on "24" :P

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 1:39 a.m. CST

    Is gone?

    by chrisd

    I'm getting a timed out message when I go to I do get a response when I ping it though. Can anybody else get to it? Is Star Trek really dead?

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 1:50 a.m. CST

    Make this movie. Make this movie now.

    by ScienceMan

    Make this movie and I will see it nine thousand times in the theater alone, then I will buy the DVD and watch it five times every day and force my kids to be raised by it. Please God make this movie. And give James Spader a cameo in it. Denny Crane!

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 1:50 a.m. CST

    Just when you thought Star Trek couldn't get any worse

    by Thirteen 13

    ...and then it just did with this news.

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 1:53 a.m. CST

    Captain Kirk kicks ass! Picard is the man!

    by Lamerz

    What the fuck is Archer doing in there? Sorry, bud, your series sucked. Bad writing, bad FX, bad storytelling. If they are going fanboy mirror universe shit, then they should have the Captains go head up in that muh-fucka. Two Enterprises brawlin to the finish, see who's really the better captain!

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 2:03 a.m. CST

    Make it so.

    by Mr Brownstone

    If they could get Spock in there too that would be sweet.

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 2:17 a.m. CST

    by atomica2005

    I like the idea. Sounds great. Bring it on.

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 2:26 a.m. CST

    "Is gone?"

    by Shermdawg

    No, I can load it up fine, it's still there.

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 3:18 a.m. CST

    I shouldn't give this idea away for free, but here goes...

    by blue1622

    First off, I really want to see this. For posterity, if no other reason, if there's a chance to get Shatner to reprise THAT role, seize that f'ing chance and don't let go. You're Trek'ked out at the moment? Fine. Learn to think ahead. Like 10 years, when that chance will be gone. ****Now, as to my idea. You don't need Picard or Archer in this. Just evil Kirk. And who is Kirk's arch-nemesis? KHAN...and in the Mirror universe, Khan would be a good guy. You have a chance to revisit by far and away the best Star Trek movie, the spin on it being this time it's being told in reverse. Khan is the underdog hero, and Kirk is out for revenge. If they're feeling particularly ballsy, they can even call it Wrath of Kirk.*

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 3:24 a.m. CST

    What WOULD be good about it:

    by Stanton

    The supporting cast could all be from other series, in Trek or Mirror universe guise, keeping fan-boys cameo-happy, but not annoying mainstream audiences who don't know their Selar from their Sela.

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 3:27 a.m. CST

    If Stewart is willing...

    by Smerph

    Just do another TNG movie. You don't need Kirk. I'm sure the rest of the cast will be up for it. With the exception of Spiner, maybe...but he's annoying.

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 3:42 a.m. CST

    "So everyone's evil in the parallel universe......"

    by DocPazuzu

    ...all the women are sluts and make out with each other." Only a trekkie would describe this as "evil."

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 4:06 a.m. CST

    heh strangely

    by Ridge

    I love the Wrath of Kirk idea lol, a good Ricardo Montelban... that'd rock... alas hes too ol.... hang on Shatners like 200 now isnt he?

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 5:07 a.m. CST

    fuck this sounds AWESOME!!

    by Spacesheik

    man id love this

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 5:12 a.m. CST

    People who knock Archer didnt see Seasons 3 and 4 of the ENTERPR

    by Spacesheik

    pls watch DVD sets of ENTERPRISE season 3 and 4 and youll see a 911/great war arc with the xindi fighting it out with a resolute hard and uncompromising Archer (in my view the best ST captain since Kirk). And season 4 was beautiful and also had a fucking awesome 2 part "mirror" episode with an evil Archer.

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 6:15 a.m. CST

    "Let's just hope this new "Trek" movie is better than the la

    by Trazadone

    Nemesis was great, I don't get you people.

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 6:30 a.m. CST

    BRANNON & BRAGA must reunite!!!!! CALLING ALL TREK FANS!!!!

    by Mike Nesmith

    We've gotta pool together our voices (as gurgled as they might sound in a pool...) and start a campaign to reunite BRANNON with his BRAGA!!! Trek needs them both sharp and whole and sitting behind a word processor banging out the scripts!!! I will soon be starting a website petition!!!! Let's make this happen, friends! We couldn't save BEAUTY AND THE BEAST, but now, all these years later, let the fruits of our labor...ah, fuck it.

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 7:12 a.m. CST

    Howzabout Dis?

    by Evil Chicken

    Remake the original TV series with a new cast; new Kirk, new Spock and new McCoy. Hit the reset button. *** Just a tick - That sucks. Forget I said that.

  • Freeze frame on the funeral at the end of the X3 trailer. There are SEVERAL characters missing that would be there...

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 7:39 a.m. CST

    No Sisko?

    by Uroboros

    Won't see it! You can't leave Sisko out of the film. He kicks all those captain's asses; even Kirk. Becuase Kirk's like what? 100 now?! :)

  • Mirror Kirk vs. Picard and Archer? Sounds like wishful thinking, but as long as they start getting Shatner on massive doses of TrimSpa, I'm down with it. And yes, Sisko definitely needs to be there, but Janeway? Janeway can go back to the Delta Quadrant and practice her Katherine Hepburn impressions for all I care.

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 8:04 a.m. CST

    Leave Sisco alone

    by TodayzSpecial

    I liked his end in DS9. It was a good way to end his story. I'd be all for a Mirror Mirror movie. Could be interesting. moreso than a starfleet academy or Romulan War story. Really because the design of the Romulans is so gawdawful. However if Picard is in it, you also need Data, Geordi, & Worf. Riker Troi and Doctor Redhead should make an appearance too. Not to mention Teri Hatcher and Famke Jansen and Ashley Judd.

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 8:13 a.m. CST

    Denny Crane.

    by mondoz2

    Coo coo for cocoa puffs.

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 8:21 a.m. CST

    Bring in the Captain that looked like the Dwarf from Don't L

    by DannyOcean01

    Not a Trek fan, but she's got a weird voice. Anyway, bring her in and you could just have a big Star Trek Klingon Klusterfuck, and then a big explosion at the end as Kirk stutters his way through an orgasm. YAY...

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 8:53 a.m. CST

    So Sad

    by ManosTHOF

    It's sad that it takes such a ridiculous gimmick concept to sell Star Trek (if it is true) But for the last bunch of years that is all ST has been.... "what if?" stories that come true, ignorance of continuity and canon, and equal parts "shuttle crash" stories, "time travel gone awry" stories, and "transporter accident" stories. I hope Shatner wants no part of this. Berman killed Kirk off in a stupid and pointless way just to get "his" Star Trek franchise over. Let him live with it. ST is dead for the time being and Berman killed it. I won't support any Berman projects anymore. If they brought in Nimoy, Meyer and Bennett I would say you have a chance at quality because these guys want to tell a compelling story, not fabricate ridiculous premises just so fans can say, "What if ALL the captains get together?" Hey, while you're at it, have Chris Pike in his wheelchair at the party too. And Robert April (in animated form of course) And make sure Nimoy's on board, He was a captain of the Enterprise as well.

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 8:54 a.m. CST

    Assholes Berman & Braga trying to make a buck.

    by Hugh Jass

    This smacks of a silly internet rumor, and its unlikely that it will ever come to pass. Shatner is almost 70 now and his days of playing Captain Kirk are long over. Nevertheless, it isn't beyond the realm of possibility for two reasons: Berman and Braga. These two assholes killed Star Trek when they made Voyager. They've been fucking its corpse for years to try and squeeze some more money out of it. Enterprise was finally put out of its misery, but these two whores still want to find a way to make some money. Hence the lame idea to do a mirror-Kirk movie. As someone put it, a "fanboys wet dream", but the general public could give a shit. Berman and Braga destroyed Star Trek, and Paramount should have the sense not to let these two fuckers near anything, let alone another terrible Trek movie.

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 8:56 a.m. CST

    Aw HELL NO!

    by Babba-Booey

    Take that horse to the back of the barn and shoot it already. Try something new for chrissakes!

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 9:12 a.m. CST

    Hell, I just moved out of my parent's basement

    by Snookeroo

    And now they want me to take a big step BACKWARDS? Fuck them. Fuck them up their stupid overweight spandex-laden asses.

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 9:16 a.m. CST

    Herc, you burned me GOOD

    by chromedome

    And I had it coming, too.... I meant to say Berman and Braga, but said Brannon and Braga instead. Berman, Brannon, Brannon, Berman... I am easily confused... Still a lot of Suckage there

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 9:20 a.m. CST

    'Let's just hope this new "Trek" movie is better than th

    by BendersShinyAss

    It's like this, Paramount and Berman (he's in this idea somewhere - I know it!) They can't do Trek. They just don't know what they're doing. If Kirk wants to come back. That's fucking all right by me! If Picard wants a part of it. Sweet! I love that chrome dome! If Archer wants in.... Sorry, you lose! They don't have to resort to mirror universe. That is a Trek TV show theme. The movies hold a different theme. that's why so many Next Generation films bombed out. They were just re-working plot devices from the mast lame of episodes. that's why it hurt to see Next Gen crash and burn. Because the TV show was second to none. Ds9 was fucking good too. Voyager...... was for girls, and I didn't mind some of the dynamics. It just didn't know what it was supposed to be doing most of the time. thats why it caved in. I say Bring Kirk in and do a Kirk Star trek film. Call it star Trek 7. Have it him and who ever else is left with the cast. FUCKING MAKE 'ASHES OF EDEN' INTO STAR TREK 7. Now that was a Great Kirk adventure, set right after star Trek 6. Kirk goes rampaging the universe in his newly bought, with no crew, in shambles, Enterprise. He rescues it from being the target in war games. Spock gets called in to hunt him down because the federation think he's working on something with the Romulans. ok ok ok, hows this. Kirk Trek film and Picard Trek film, filmed back to back, released within 6 months of each other. Yeah! It's a Trekies wet dream.

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 9:33 a.m. CST

    I've been saying they should make a mirror universe movie fo

    by Capt. Murphy

    This would be awesome. Also, bring the Borg back! A mirror universe Borg. And how come no Sisko? Screw you guys, Sisko rocked! Leave Janeway in the smoking lounge at Starfleet, I don't care, but bring back Sisko!

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 10:18 a.m. CST

    This is just what we need.

    by Jar Jar 4 Prez

    The return of REAL Trek after all that Enterprise crap. I hope it happens... It would be great.

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 10:25 a.m. CST

    Couple questions.

    by Childe Roland

    First, not having followed Boston Legal much at all, I caught an episode around Halloween where Shatner's and Spader's characters were supposed to go to a party dressed as pink flamingos together but had a falling out over their positions on Iraq. They argued like a married couple. Are the characters romantically involved on the show? If so, really well done by both actors. Second, were the talkbackers who suggested anyone who didn't approve of this idea should die being serious? If so, then I can't imagine why anyone wouldn't trust your level headed assessment that this is a formula for a sure-fire hit. For fuck's sake, kids, lighten up. Trek was silly even when it was good (okay, maybe Next Gen and DS-9 managed to do a few good serious arcs). But this idea is just bad silly and desperate. Let it go.

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 10:26 a.m. CST

    They gave it rest, now time for more TREK

    by Eyegore

    The last season of Enterprise was great, and we've been Trekless long enough.

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 10:39 a.m. CST


    by ScreamingPenis

    star trek II played at a film festival a few years ago...and let me tell you that seeing this film in a crowded theater is an incredible experience. the crowd was howling with excitement and applause (and maybe some laughter to) when Kirk let the 'Khaaan!' line rip. the point is, is that Trek used to be so much fun. i know this has nothing to do with the topic at hand...but it was a magical moment. i'm not sure if sci-fi can be fun anymore without looking cheezy. how post-modern.

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 11 a.m. CST

    This is complete BS, and shouldn't even be on AICN.

    by themikejonas is a crappy wannabe movie site, and there's not a whit of credibility to the guy who e-mailed them this rumor.

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 11 a.m. CST

    Funniest Thing EVER

    by Purgatori

    Was when I was at the con in Seattle and said to Richard (Dick) Arnold what I thought was wrong with The N Film. It was hillarious because he was trying to save face and say "But we did mention Lore" and all these scared Trekkies were murmuring and looking nervous " they didn't." Fuck you Dick Arnold. You have no talent and you assholes have let Trek die a horrible death in your pursuit of money and quick turn around. This sounds awful, and I'm all for Takei having his own series. HE LOVES HIS FANS and he lives for this. He'd be awesome.

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 11:01 a.m. CST

    How are they going to account for Shatner's age?

    by Doc_Strange

    It's not like he can do flip kicks like in ST3 anymore. Plus, Shatner has kind of let himself go quite a bit so he would need to get back in some kind of shape. Homeboy could play Santa Claus if he had a beard right now, though.

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 11:04 a.m. CST

    Fat evil Kirk...

    by Billyeveryteen

    Could be awesome. You know Tiberius, old, fat and vomity, due to years of debauchery. Sleazy and conniving, ruthless and relentless? Beam me up! Also, the last great Star Trek moment, has to be Quantum Leap shagging slave gurl. Hawt!!

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 11:26 a.m. CST

    Why don't they do a Q movie and close out the series correct

    by TotoroSan

    Seriously, a Q movie allows them to do any number of weird plots. You want Kirk back? No problem. You want time-travel? Got you covered. A Q movie adds the sarcastic humour so sorely lacking from the last Next Gen films, and it would nicely bookend the series.

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 11:33 a.m. CST

    Best Trek out there right now is NEW VOYAGES!

    by Kentucky Colonel

    Y'all should really check out the two episodes already posted, and a third (with Walter Koenig) is right around the corner. Once you get used to seeing other actors in the roles they really are a hoot.

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 11:33 a.m. CST

    I reitierate

    by Kentucky Colonel

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 12:05 p.m. CST

    Has anybody here SEEN a recent picture of William Shatner?

    by Stan the Bat

    He looks like boiled meat. The day when he should have hung up his tricorder is- at MINIMUM- fifteen years gone. Come on, folks. Let it go. To everything there is a season.

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 12:08 p.m. CST

    This is the greatest bad idea ever!

    by Regis Travolta

    Already did it in ST: Generations but so what that didn't have Scott Bakula in it so bring it on you hucksters bring it on! I'll sneak into it without paying for it!

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 12:09 p.m. CST

    Wonder Womans milky white Tits....

    by LordAsh

    With my last dying breath.....i spit at thee!" great fucking line from a great fucking movie....Love when Shatner does the "Fire!"......the whole goddamm audience started that was great stuff....However, it was 20 fucking years ago....Let sleeping dogs lie....Woulda liked to have seen a Q movie but dont think DeLancey ever wanted any part of it. That being said, Next Generation had some of the best writing of any sci-fi series EVER, period, no dispute. You hear that Whedon??

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 12:38 p.m. CST

    Old is the new Dead?

    by leveldwella

    Its time to stop doing things when your dead. bring on the 60 year old rocky and rambo.Captain kirk could be on the bridge in a wheelchair and i would still watch. this forum is such a bunch of haters and naysayers its not really even worth anything anymore.

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 12:42 p.m. CST


    by The Cine-eater

    This should be done as a tv series instead, just one series of say 12 episodes then leave it the hell alone.Another idea for a tv series would be ST-Chronicles just random stories about different races in the ST universe.

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 12:45 p.m. CST

    William Shatner - Has Been

    by kuryakin

    The greatest album of last year. Why would The Mighty Kirk need to hang around with losers like Captain Archer anyway? Stick to the tunes, Bill.

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 1:22 p.m. CST

    Kirk Yea, Picard No!

    by Norm3

    I don't want a rehash of a team up. I'm game for a return of Kirk but thats about it.

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 2:15 p.m. CST

    Eek, I say, eek!

    by DrWhat

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 2:16 p.m. CST

    CGI is what we're waiting for

    by Hervoyel

    Seriously, that's the only kind of Star Trek I'm waiting for. Think about the Final Fantasy movie and lets push it forward about 15 years. Someday not all that far from now there will be new Star Trek out there and it won't be starring fat old bloated actors who we all love but who don't even remotely resemble the character that we remember them playing. It will be done with computer graphics and with an enormous library of dialog from previous performances by the original actor. Kirk will live again someday and when he does he's going to look like Kirk. He's also going to sound like Kirk. The one thing he probably won't completely do is act like Kirk. I figure someday the tools will be within reach for fans to make their own Star Trek episodes and those will be far worse and more disturbing than anything that ever came from Berman and Braga. You think the franchise is past death now? Wait until the first fan made Star Trek episode hits that placed Worf and Sulu in a situation that mixes "Enemy Mine" with "Brokeback Mountain". It's coming someday and CGI actors don't mind doing lengthy and semi-violent hardcore sex scenes. I'm hoping I don't live long enough to see this.

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 2:25 p.m. CST

    Kirk vs Kong

    by Spice-Orange

    "I.... give....... you.....!" nuff said.

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 2:45 p.m. CST


    by Billy Bob 2

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 2:47 p.m. CST

    Hold the presses: A decent episode of Atlantis has aired!

    by Chicken2nite

    wow, I'm shocked and pleasantly surprised that they avoided the trek route of reusing old and worn out plotlines for 40 minutes, unlike the last three episodes aired (the wraith's plan to stop them from escaping from their ship was to have someone tied up along their escape route to pose as a prisoner and then grind them for information, which works, but they later buy the excuse that they are working for another wraith. that truly makes no sense :P ) Sorry for highjacking this talkback for my post, but there wasn't a BSG tb to do so, depressingly enough...

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 2:57 p.m. CST


    by la_sith

    "EWwwwWWwwww YEAH!!!!!!!"

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 2:59 p.m. CST


    by la_sith

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 3:01 p.m. CST

    "Old is the new dead?"- no, corpulent is the new corpulent

    by Stan the Bat

    I didn't suggest that Shatner should "stop doing things"- nor is my objection to his age. I suggested that a man in his *physical condition* should not be playing an action lead/alien babe magnet in a space opera. It's absurd. It's like Woody Allen making out with Mira Sorvino- it's ridiculous on the face of it, and speaking the obvious truth about it does not make one a 'hater'. At last report Shatner was not merely pudgy but actually BLOTCHY. He does NOT look like a guy who lives in a future society where human longevity has been greatly extended by quantum leaps in medical technology. He looks BAAD, only with a couple more A's than that. I don't see how he could appear as Kirk without going through the guard rail and off into campy self-parody- unless the premise was that Kirk was a retiree giving sage advice from the front seat of a 23rd century version of one of those golf carts you get to drive around in when you can't walk anymore. (Of course, some will argue that campy self-parody has ALWAYS been what the whole thing was about; if you can appreciate it on that level, more power to you.)

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 3:30 p.m. CST

    "great fucking line from a great fucking movie...."

    by hulk_beanpoll

    " With my last dying breath.....i spit at thee!" great fucking line from a great fucking movie.... "<p> It is a good quote, so try not to mangle it to death please. It&#39;s from Moby Dick and it goes "From hell&#39;s heart I stab at thee. For hate&#39;s sake I spit my last breath at thee."

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 4:22 p.m. CST

    Release your anger

    by Darth Busey

    Shatner is 75 years old, for Christ&#39;s sake. Give him a break.

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 4:35 p.m. CST

    About Kirk&#39;s appearance.

    by Shan

    Well, mirror Kirk has supposed to have been in some kind of dungeon for a few decades, which could explain why his appearance is less than peak physical condition for a typical 23rd century person.

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 4:51 p.m. CST

    Trek Movie

    by rslatin

    According to an inside production source at Paramount (Keeper of the Trek Franchise), nothing yet is planned for several years.

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 5:03 p.m. CST

    "mirror Kirk has supposed to have been in some kind of dungeon f

    by Stan the Bat

    I wasn&#39;t aware that long imprisonment and weight gain were usually associated... Was he in a dungeon with Ding Dongs?

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 5:07 p.m. CST

    Mirror Kirk = Harkonen Hutt

    by Incrediburgible

    Sure Shatner looks like boiled meat (I hope either Brannon or Braga are listening) but a sixtysomething Mirror Mirror evil Kirk would look just like the Shat Organism in 2006... damaged and decomissioned. All that&#39;s left is for Bill to camp it up and play it arch... which is what he does best anyway. I hope in this Mirror Mirror Movie that the "Good Gorn" is involved and that he&#39;s a lovestruck Gorn with a song in his reptile heart.

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 5:12 p.m. CST

    "Shatner is 75 years old, for Christ&#39;s sake. Give him a brea

    by Stan the Bat

    That he&#39;s 75 is kind of my point. I don&#39;t object to his age OR his weight per se. I object to the fact that the script will call for him to beat up an Alien Biker in an Alien Biker Bar and then, later, have some chick with blue skin rub her Alien Booty up against him suggestively. If they wanted to play him as a Statesman of the Federation, that&#39;d be great. Alternatively, if they wanted to do some kind of mirror-universe Homeless Wino Kirk, he could play that, too. But, please- I beg of you- no more fisticuffs. That&#39;s all I ask.

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 6:07 p.m. CST

    Jesus. Have any of you fanboys SEEN Shatner recently?

    by SG7

    He&#39;s OLD and FAT. This idea is stupid. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs to move out of moms house and get, dare I say it, a life!

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 6:07 p.m. CST

    This will not work, and seems illogical to me...

    by Johnno

    To Me..... TOOOOOOO MEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 6:25 p.m. CST

    They already made a movie of Q the flying dragon creature that l

    by Orionsangels

    Can&#39;t wait for the special edition DVD with CGI and crap

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 6:44 p.m. CST

    This could be good, but cause the Mirror Enterprise ep was about

    by iamnicksaicnsn

    William Shatner put out an incredible series of Star Trek books. They had everything, Kirk, Picard, action, Star Trek history, they kicked fucking ass. They really should&#39;ve have made these books into the movies after First Contact (which was genius, and the score is insane). Pick up "The Return" Star Trek fans, and I dare you to put it down. And for the love of god, are people actually STILL defending Nemesis? Are you on crack? Is your name Helen Keller? You have to be blind and deaf to like that movie.

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 6:51 p.m. CST


    by Snookeroo

    30 Ft. gorilla carries William Shatner to the top of Jessica Simpson&#39;s cleavage. You know you want it.

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 7:23 p.m. CST

    Bring On The CGI Toy Star Trek Story Final Fantasy Fan Porn

    by Incrediburgible

    You could bring back Dr. Janice Lester, have her switch bodies with Kirk, then have Kirk fuck himself.

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 8:30 p.m. CST

    Kirk and Picard at 75 are still better than any recent Trek


    Age makes no difference

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 8:40 p.m. CST

    "Age makes no difference"

    by Stan the Bat

    Denial: it&#39;s not just a river in Egypt. Patrick Stewart actually DOES look like a man who comes from a future civilization in which human lifespans have been extended- I&#39;ll give you that. But the fact that "Kirk and Picard at 75 are better than any recent Trek" is not because Kirk at 75 is any good, but because recent Trek has been an abject, shameless suckfest.

  • "Braga plagiarized an idea of Brannon&#39;s" I KNEW the idea of having a plasma injector overload the warp field and cause a relay to fuse was Brannon&#39;s.. that sneaky bastard..

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 9:25 p.m. CST

    Brokeback Enterprise

    by Gorrister

    The hell with Kirk. Lets bring Sulu onboard with the first ever 100% gay Star Trek movie. (well, ok, maybe the second gay Star Trek movie....depending on your point of view) ;) I don&#39;t know about your guys and gals, but I always wondered why Sulu and Chekov always spent so much time together........

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 10:14 p.m. CST

    New Kirk flick would be awesome

    by Megaladon

    Just make sure Singer has the helm.

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 10:57 p.m. CST

    Just for shits and giggles....

    by Jaka

    ...fuck Serenity! lol And fuck Star Wars...episodes I-II I mean! If anything, Whedon needs to put his full energy towards whatever Buffy related project is out there. Enought with using that success to get other projects done. Finish Buffy right damn it. And EP I-II are steaming piles of horse shit. I just watched all three dvds back to back for the first time. Fuck em! I&#39;ll never watch em again. I&#39;ll stick with my OT dvds (or widescreen VHS when I feel the need to go way back). Star Trek rules! And there is a never! ending! fan base. Paramount just needs to be more realistic about how big it is and proceed accordingly. THAT, is all.

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 11:31 p.m. CST

    Yes, I was aware of the weight issue in the dungeon ...

    by Shan

    ... but I was thinking either beri beri or a tube down the throat pumping water into him for daily water torture would explain that to varying degrees. I do remember thing Timothy McVeigh looked like he&#39;d put on a lot of weight of Death Row. Sorry for that crass observation given the seriousness of his crimes but that&#39;s how I saw it.

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 11:45 p.m. CST

    Picard and Archer vs. Evil Kirk and Evil Sisco...would never hap

    by Big Bad Clone

  • Dec. 14, 2005, 11:48 p.m. CST

    Shatner is lookin kinda Yoda

    by MondoGundark


  • Dec. 15, 2005, 12:50 a.m. CST

    Stan the Bat: "He looks like boiled meat."

    by Mike Nesmith

    LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!! Great line, man!

  • Dec. 15, 2005, 1:25 a.m. CST

    Mike Nesmith:

    by Stan the Bat

    Great handle, man. (You&#39;re not REALLY Mike Nesmith, are you? -Hey, you never know...)

  • Dec. 15, 2005, 2:11 a.m. CST

    Bones: You&#39;re dead Jim.

    by Regis Travolta

    DeForest Kelly could come back to life with computer effects. He determines that Jim Kirk is in fact still dead. But due to a malfunction in the transporter unit not just Kirk but Scotty too comes back to life also via computer effects! Spock is summoned from Vulcan and the four of them team up with Archer and Picard to save the galaxy. Now that would be a movie! But first Shatner has to lose at least 50 pounds perhaps Kirstie Alley could also return she really has lost a lot of weight recently and since she was in ST:TMP way back in 1980 this makes sense for her to return. I will naturally be a producer of this epic extravaganza we won&#39;t need any writers because this baby writes itself! :-)

  • Dec. 15, 2005, 7:08 a.m. CST

    Stan the Bat

    by Mike Nesmith

    Nope...but I wish I had his money!

  • Dec. 15, 2005, 7:47 a.m. CST

    Sounds Great! As For You Little Boys.....

    by Real Deal

    As Kolchak would say : " Go play with your pimples! " " He&#39;s old and fat " Is that the best rhetoric you can come up with? This could be bad or good but I think if Stewart likes the idea it may have some merit. I know the mirror universe from Enterprise was one of it&#39;s best offering from the 4th year and really done well. So I&#39;m betting that this could really be different and a breath of fresh air in terms of ST movies!

  • Dec. 15, 2005, 9:35 a.m. CST

    thanks, geeks.

    by jamawalk

    seriously. this post is worth it just for all the trekie back and forth nonsense. ohhhh, god. have heart though, nerds. this movie can&#39;t be worse than the star wars prequels, so you&#39;ll have something to rub in the Warsies (god that name is queer) faces.

  • Dec. 15, 2005, 10:42 a.m. CST

    Wait for it

    by Larry Jay

    I say wait for Brian Singer to free himself up some time so that he can breath new life into the francise. He wants to do it, He has the chops and the respect for the Mythology that is required. PLEASE PARAMOUNT DO NOT RUSH INTO THIS!!!!!! Do it right, or don&#39;t do it at all.

  • Dec. 15, 2005, 10:45 a.m. CST


    by radio1_mike

    This movie would be the shizznit. But only, only if evil Kirk beats Picard.

  • Dec. 15, 2005, 11:22 a.m. CST

    They could do like, the enterprise is now a nursing home in spac

    by Orionsangels

    no better yet a space station that has a nursing home and the surviving cast members can reminisce about their adventures that&#39;s every episode. using young actors to show their young adventures of course. oh and ben stiller can run the nursing home, but he&#39;s a mean romulan

  • Dec. 15, 2005, 12:08 p.m. CST


    by David Frames

    No attempt should be made to revive Star Trek for at least 10-15 years. People need to miss the bastard and not only that, have have to rediscover DS9, grow to love it and start demanding a revival. Better yet introduce a new 25th century crew - a movie exclusive that doesn&#39;t rely on any exisiting t.v incarnation and create an independant francaise out of that which when sucessful can be spun off to t.v. Its a post-modern francaise fatigue inversion!!!

  • Dec. 15, 2005, 1:11 p.m. CST

    I&#39;d like to point out that the source of this news is appare

    by JackPumpkinhead

    (Stephen? Or Steven? I don&#39;t care and I don&#39;t feel like checking) By the way, while I only saw the Star Trek films and have no desire to watch the series, I find it hilarious that so many here instantly attack others as "freaks" for posting something positive/negative/other about Star Trek. It&#39;s even funnier when the attacker instantly starts drooling over ANOTHER "superior" franchise, be it the Matrix, Lord of the Rings, King Kong IV or anything else! "Your franchise sucks! Your devotion to it is utter stupidity! What you need and want to do is to copy MY devotion to MY favorite franchise, you freak!" (Want to see a *real* online freak, by the way? Look at: - and the postings)

  • Dec. 15, 2005, 2:09 p.m. CST

    Captain Sulu!

    by jigzaw

    Let&#39;s just have one great Sulu on the Excelsior adventure. No Kirk (ok, maybe a cameo), no other generations. Just a great story. Sulu can be gay just for shits and giggles too. But, the teaming up of captains just hasn&#39;t worked. These captains are much better when they&#39;re alone at the top rather than when they&#39;re being all manly-competitive (Generations).

  • Dec. 15, 2005, 6:15 p.m. CST


    by mullymt

    Even though I am absolutely not a Trek fan, I think that Paramount should take advantage of the huge universe that Star Trek has created. Get rid of the hacks that have been running the show, and create a trilogy with every major character and villian. This could be sci-fi&#39;s LOTR! I&#39;m talking epic! It should not create new and crappy villians (like in Insurrection), and should completely destroy and rebuild the Trek universe. The problem with the current movies is that they feel like TV episodes. Somebody needs to drop a fucking nuclear bomb onto the bridge of the Enterprise and watch how the characters react.

  • Dec. 15, 2005, 6:47 p.m. CST

    Jesus! Frickin&#39; Do It Already!

    by darth kubrick

    Or will we have to wait for this like Indy IV?

  • Dec. 15, 2005, 9:01 p.m. CST

    ST rumors are true.Patrick Stewart is on record as saying he is


    This much is fact 1/ Patrick Stewart said last week he is in high level talks to be in ST 11 2/The prequel idea has been killed 3/ Shatner pitched a script that is very similar to the producers of ENT that sounds exactly like what the new film would be about. 4/ Shatner has been rumored to be in ST 11 for months now (check out 5/ IT MAKES FINANCIAL SENSE. The franchise needs a major hit. What could be a better shot in the arm to the dying franchise than the return of it&#39;s biggest icons? In the next few months we will find out these rumors are true.

  • Dec. 15, 2005, 9:05 p.m. CST

    Pigs In Space

    by chromedome

    is the universe that needs a feature film treatment, not this crap... At least with the muppets the thing would be entertaining, and no one would even try to take it so seriously...

  • Dec. 15, 2005, 9:06 p.m. CST

    Kirk and Picard&#39;&#39;s return makes financial sense. That is


    The biggest reason why Kirk and Picard WILL BE COMING BACK is because their return is the only way the Paramont/Viacom will make money off their most important franchise. It&#39;s as simple as that. THEY WILL NOT LET THIS CASH COW JUST GO AWAY. IN THE END KIRK AND PICARD WILL BE BACK BECAUSE THERE IS TOO MUCH MONEY TO BE MADE IF THEY COME BACK. If Ds9,Voy or Ent could make money on the big screen they would be in the new film. But the bottom line is nobody cares about these series and they would not turn a profit. Kirk and Picard are money in the bank and will retun for this reason alone.

  • Dec. 15, 2005, 9:36 p.m. CST


    by bubcus

    I&#39;d love to see KIRK back and I was really enjoying that fourth season of ENTERPRISE. Mixing everything together is going to be a two hour mess of egos combatting for screen time. I WOULD like to see a film that involves the Enterprise, Voyager, Riker&#39;s ship, Worf&#39;s ship, and maybe DS9 dealing with a mutual threat... kind of like the beginning of FIRST CONTACT. AND wouldn&#39;t it be interesting to either run into a time travelling race that kidnapped Data at the last possible second OR "Q" giving Picard a thankyou present of a restored Data? That&#39;d calm fans nerves from attending the funeral we call "Nemesis." *************** If you&#39;re going to have a movie about the Mirror Universe, the non-Star Trek people are going to be really confused... this&#39;d thereby become a fan only movie and THAT won&#39;t gross as much as they were hoping. Star Trek 4 was great in that it appealed to families and non-initiated could follow it wonderfully.

  • Dec. 15, 2005, 11:23 p.m. CST

    How about this idea for a movie...

    by DarthFloyd

    Picard walks onto the Holodeck and start up a similar program Data was running in Decent part 1. A poker table appears, and every captain of the Enterprise (Archer, Robert April, Christopher Pike, James Kirk, Spock*, John "My-ability-to-command-shows-up-next-week-with-everything-else" Harriman, and Rachel Garrett (Enterprise-C) all appear at the poker table, and they start playing while reminising about the fun-times commanding Enterprise. *(Spock was the Captain of the Enterprise in Wrath of Khan, until Kirk assumed command "Admiral, I have no ego to bruise...besides, if you screw up, it won&#39;t go on my record".) They could justify bringing Kirk/Spock/Picard all back together for a big happy session. Hell, Riker could join in too, since he was Captain in "Best of Both Worlds." A better idea for a series would be the Peter David "New Frontier" series. Just my two cents. Take it or leave it.

  • Dec. 16, 2005, 3:52 a.m. CST

    A Mirror Universe? Kirk and Picard battling it out?! Id pay good

    by Spacesheik

    just get a good director, nick meyer - have nimoy produce it or wait for brian singer

  • Dec. 16, 2005, 9:53 a.m. CST

    Well I know one thing if Kirk isnt involved in the next flick an

    by Spacesheik

    the man has won 2 emmys, had a hit record, won a golden globe etc - hes on a roll, nothing wrong with an older kirk on the screen - should be good - and btw scott bakula kicked ass in seasons 3 and 4 of ENTERPRISE - i used to be a non believer but after getting the DVD sets and seeing the shows i realize that ENTERPRISE was the best ST incarnation since TNG if not TOS. do yourselves a favor and get the boxed sets for 3 and 4.

  • Dec. 16, 2005, 4:51 p.m. CST

    Could be good, but it won&#39;t be

    by _Maltheus_

    At the very least, they&#39;d have to use Sisko instead of Archer. DS9 has a passionate fan base, myself included. All fans are in agreement that things went to shit starting with Voyager. However, I will disagree with First Contact being good. There was never a good TNG movie. ........ Q can&#39;t play a role because he looks too old. Unless they used makeup to make him look as old as Picard. That&#39;d be funny and fit in with his sense of humor and his fascination with Picard. ............ I think that Hollywood just needs to go away. I like Star Trek, but it&#39;s getting really pathetic how they can&#39;t manage any movies, other than remakes, reimaginings and sequels. It honestly scares me how far America has fallen, in terms of creativity and imagination. Hollywood is just a barometer.

  • Dec. 16, 2005, 4:56 p.m. CST


    by _Maltheus_

    I just read that Paramount finally confirmed that the Animated series is coming to DVD in the second half of 06. I remember really liking that show. It was more creative than the other Treks in many ways.

  • Dec. 16, 2005, 10:24 p.m. CST

    i made up "The Shat," you know

    by Chief Redcock

    i wonder if i should try to get that copyrighted?

  • Dec. 17, 2005, 3:47 p.m. CST

    You gotta have faith of the heart suckas

    by Spacesheik

    kirk shall return!

  • Dec. 17, 2005, 11:51 p.m. CST

    One other idea for an 11th film...

    by DarthFloyd

    Enterprise E and Voyager are both at DS9 for Bajor&#39;s induction into the Federation when a Dominion warship comes thru the wormhole and with Odo requesting the Federation&#39;s assistance. It turns out the Borg have invaded Dominion space and despite the Jem&#39;Haddar&#39;s resistance, several founders have been assimilated and the remaining survivors are on the run. The Borg have begun using the Founders shapeshifting abilities and knowledge to crush any continued resistance. At first, the Federation really doesn&#39;t want to assist, since they are still licking their wounds from the war, but in a flash, the wormhole opens and Sisko appears informing everyone at DS9 that once the Borg have assimilated all the Founders, they will come thru the wormhole and overwhelm the Federation and anyone else in the way. A task force of Alpha Quadrant ships including Voyager, Titan, Enterprise, and Defiant (among others which will look really cool blowing up in the final battle) agree to assist. In exchange for the assistance, the founders agree to never again spy or interfere in events and dealings with the Alpha quadrant. Major battle ensues, things blow up, someone calls out "your all clear Jean-Luc, now let&#39;s blow this thing and go home", big Borg cube explosion, major cheering, happy celebrations, the end. Or is it?

  • Dec. 19, 2005, 6:47 p.m. CST

    BRING BACK KIRK (before it&#39;s too late)


    Bring back Kirk before it&#39;s too late for Kirk,Shatner and the dying Star Trek franchise.