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X-MEN 3 announcement teaser in Quicktime & HD Quality!
Hey folks, Harry here - well gosh. That was the teaser trailer - and through it all I never really got a sense of Hank McCoy or Warren Worthington III other than shots of em. And there sure do seem to be big gangs of mutants all over the place - but like we'll see all of em ever doing anything. I believe we refer to most of em as redshirts. I guess what I'm kinda most perturbed about is the idea that they're not really adapting anything that would be super cool to see. I mean - like HELLFIRE CLUB or SENTINELS or... well you get the idea. Just so long as the spin-off Wolverine adventure film involves Japan and Silver Samurai and ninja clans. Problem with the teaser is that I don't really feel teased. Sorry we didn't get this up earlier, I was at SYRIANA (great film) and Quint is off in New York at the KONG premiere... and Moriarty... well, I don't know what he's up to. Here ya go...
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Im just not up for a fat middle aged Beast and the death of characters, if it happens (cyclops, prof xavier). No Nightcrawler and now we have to deal with Storm's retarded haircut v3. Bring on Superman and Spidey 3.
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yeah i know everyone is bashing the site now but i gotta agree need to change the name to aintitslownews
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But hey! I'm third!
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I was fifth!
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Juggernaught looks a bit odd, but other than that looks pretty great. I'm psyched for this one, Ratner or not bring on X3.
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i thought this movie was going to suck but yeah that was a pretty cool trailer.
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Complete perfection. Hater can shove it.
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makes the superman trailer look so boring
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George Newman you rock lol. Good job with the links.
I love the trailer. It even has me a little psyched for the movie, which I thought nothing could do when Singer left. Here's hoping it's at least as good as X1. -
Dec 06, 2005 12:08:03 AM CST
Bias & Buzz Against Ratner & This Film OR... It's Just Inher
by jollydwarf
One of those two things prevented this teaser from firing me up. Can I circle "Both A & B"?
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Dec 06, 2005 12:08:46 AM CST
I want to get excited,the images try to trick me, but we cannot
by george newman
But golly those images are great. Except for Jugghead. He sucks through and through. Awful build(He has maybe 2 or 3 inches on Magneto) Retarded Helmet (looks like Magneto's anti-telepathy helmet). Beast's face looks good, but his hairy arms looks silly. I want to hope, and I think all of this time I have had soak in the ludicrous script has helped a little, but dang. dang
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In that dark battle glimpsed throughout the trailer? What are those red lasers coming from exactly?
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I know nothing about this script, but it looks pretty good.
Although I think I need to see Beast's face move more ... it looks like a mask.
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As much as I was ready to hate on this movie because of Bret Ratner...this teaser totally sold me. Professor X admitting that not even he knows if they can win this battle - it gave me chills.
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It looks like that script review posted here a few months ago is indeed the one Ratner and Co. shot. That's too bad. /\/\ Can anyone explain to me why Storm is pulling a Chun-Li all over the screen?
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Still scared by that script review, but it looks like there's finally going to be lots and lots of mutants going at it. First two movies felt way too small, especially the first one, where at the start of the movie, the entire X-Men school apparently exists to serve as a front for only three practicing adult mutants. And the Brotherhood has a huge underground evil lair, complete with prison cell, for like four members! Ratner has already surprised me by keeping most of Singer's look and feel while making it bigger. Have a feeling this movie won't be able to overcome those script issues, though.
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Dec 06, 2005 12:17:52 AM CST
Those lasers are coming from the eyes of the genetically enginee
by george newman
Not really. Grant Morrison made that up and that single idea of his is more creative and interesting than the entire premise of this movie. But I want to hope that this will be something good.
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Maybe this won't suck, after all. por supuesto, the best teaser trailer I've ever seen was the one for the phantom menace...
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would have taken a shit on The Empire Strikes Back if you knew before hand that Vader was Lukes father and called Lando's cape gay. Sorry to break it to you but despite all your endless nit picking of freeze framed images -- this looks pretty bad ass.
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the above was a joke. just to be clear.
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If Superman turned out horrible and X3 ended up as the better of the two films? They will both make tons of cash regardless though, so be ready for it.
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The X2 trailer was amazing. This just seems run of the mill, and frankly, I get some "Fantastic Four" vibes from it. We need some well construced sequences (like Nightcrawlers at the beginning of X2). There was also no cool humour (like the cat licking Wolverine's claws in the X2 trailer) Also, the lighting looks more standard fare action film (read: Fantastic Four) than the nuances in X2 and the first X-men with plays of light and shadow- not everything all high-key (not to nitpick, but it definitely comes across that way, but it does affect the way I perceive the film)
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The X2 trailer was amazing. This just seems run of the mill, and frankly, I get some "Fantastic Four" vibes from it. We need some well construced sequences (like Nightcrawlers at the beginning of X2). There was also no cool humour (like the cat licking Wolverine's claws in the X2 trailer) Also, the lighting looks more standard fare action film (read: Fantastic Four) than the nuances in X2 and the first X-men with plays of light and shadow- not everything all high-key (not to nitpick, but it definitely comes across that way, but it does affect the way I perceive the film)
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Dec 06, 2005 12:23:27 AM CST
The scenes with lazers and the huge slab and the fastball specia
by justice41
Just watch how no chalant Wolvy is as he smokes a stogie while explosions are going off all around him. Danger Room and Fastball special people. You people who claim to not be excited are liars. Just can't admit it and actually sound like a positive person eh. Hurt the ole rep eh. Silly twats.
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ratner forgot we fanboys like big jugs, and the ol' jugs just ain't as big as we like 'em. but for real, juggernaut is the part that craps this trailer up for me. and not the suit so much as the helmet. and no matter what you guys say the helmet is not the same as any version from the comics. you see way too much of his face. but whatever. i think we're all in unision that xavier and cyclops should not be killed off...ever. but on a more personal note, i think beast looks great, even more so since i've watched it probably like thirty times by now. and isn't callisto supposed to be really hideous or something? thumbs up on the angel wings also, very nice. i'm excited. anyone hating on it now is just a hater thru and thru. this looks amazing. and sure it doesn't have sentinels or the hellfire club (who wanted to see a bunch of fancy mutants blowin up people with their pinkies in the air and using their trademark chess piece names. that would be craptastic.) the script is the key. if the script is true to the characters we know and love this film will rock. and if this movie lacks anything it lacks the awesomeness that is apocalypse. 'nuff said.
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Dec 06, 2005 12:25:59 AM CST
Except for the opening NC sequence X2 blows. It's slow and c
by justice41
Notice how Singer is afraid to film too much action out doors. Everything has to be a soundstage or set. Makes everything in both X flicks look phony and cheap.
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Great, I'm glad it took almost half a day to get this talkback going. Everyone's been using the Harry's A Smurf thread all day. I like that one better too - a lot less senseless bashing.
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Hmmn. Hmmn. Well... hmmn. Beast looks great. Go Beast. Angel's wings, sure. Cool. Not too hard to give a muscley blond boy wings, but Beast is tops. Nice trailer. Tight. 'Frisco scene looks good- (and you all think Brian Singer's radical gay agenda tainted XMen + X2. Leave it to Ratner to land the Blackbird in on Castro St.) Nice that Rothman and those fuckers at FOX at least try to keep some visual continuity and keep it faithful to Newton Thomas Sigel's cinematography. Before he left. With Singer. *sigh... I'm not dissapointed, but- I'm holding a steadfast to "we'll see".
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Dec 06, 2005 12:28:42 AM CST
Favorite part of the trailer: finding out that COLOSSUS is on th
by george newman
That Fastball Special towards the end of the trailer is sweet.........Oh God, I just had a Terrible image come to mind: CGI'd Colossus fighting rubbersuit Juggernaut.
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FASTBALL SPECIAL!!! Towards the end of the teaser, Colossus ptiches Wolverine! Betting either at Magneto or Dark Jean. Would of loved to see Famke in a movie verion of the Phoenix costume, but what can ya do...
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but since when does Bryan Singer have "visual panache"?
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That's the Juggernaut we get? Holy shit! He looks way worse than the Thing ever did. He looks like motherfucking Super Shredder. C'mon, did we forget how to use CGI all of the sudden? The rest looks really great, though, but MAN is that a fucking sucky Juggernaut.
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Dec 06, 2005 12:33:17 AM CST
wow! judging by the trailer it could be the best of the trilogy
by warpspasm
it has a nice dark overtone to it, and it feels fresh looking.
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Wow did they fuck that up.
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i'm pretty effin tired of hearing...bryan singer's x-men was the bomb-diggity, bryan singer's x-men was ground breaking, bryan singer and stan lee should shack up and make some love babies, bryan singer is the chosen one, bryan singer is a really cool homosexual...that's crap. what singer did with the x-films is something that was safe and relied mostly on the performances of ian mckellan, hugh jackman, patrick stewart, and later brian cox. his movies were great because he staid true to the comics. he didn't have sentinels or the danger room or the hellfire club or gambit. he did something safe. he staid in the realms of the comic book and limited his films by focusing in on one or two characters and giving the rest of the guys three lines apiece. i'm not saying bryan singer isn't a good director. i'm just saying i don't think his x-men films were as good as they could have been. and at the time i was excited to see my childhood heroes up on the screen, but in retrospect his films fell way short of what i see in my old comic books. this film looks closer to something ripped right from the pages. summary: bryan singer is not deity
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Dec 06, 2005 12:36:41 AM CST
well the action looks good and epic --- rattner will probably re
by spacesheik
some scenes seem like a retread of x2 but the golden gate stuff and the dark night battles redeem the trailer
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I'd love to hear your take on it.
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Dec 06, 2005 12:39:48 AM CST
Negative Man - "Would of loved to see Famke in a movie verion of
by oh_riginal
Ugh, now I have to agree with that. She would've definitely looked nice in that outfit. Never would have even thought of that if you didn't mention it, now I have my own nitpick... and I was trying to avoid that, lol.
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I have to say, it looks way more epic than 1 or 2 ever did. It seems to have expanded the world out nicely. If the script didn't have those shitty deaths and retreaded plot I'd actually be excited.
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Goddammit. I know I'm generally anti-CG but there are elements of X-Men that just cannot be properly done without it... that said, the characters in this look like they belong in classic Trek, not a big budget feature film.
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The fastball special is a Danger Room sequence only. After that, you won't see Colossus til he stalls the Juggernaught at the end. I have a friend who has been 100% reliable when it comes to news on Fox projects, and he has the X3 script (post Ratner - dated June 2005) Most of the X-Characters have at most 15 to 30 seconds screen time, except Beast, Wolverine, Storm, Magneto, and Jean. Everyone else is mostly background filler.
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What more do you haters want? I mean I'm not the biggest Ratner fan out there either but let's at least give the movie a chance. Give him a second to try and get a feel for the universe. Was it cool as the X2 trailers? No, but it was still pretty cool... much better than Superman's new trailer! Let's give the movie a shot before we condemn it from the jump. My goodness. We could nit pick all day. Did Beast look bad? Yep. Ditto for Juggernaut. But come on, it's December (granted the movie comes out in 5 months) but still, let's at least give Ratner and them a fair shot and also some credit where it's due. The trailer was definitely different in feel from a Singer X-Men trailer but it was still very cool and let's at least acknowledge that. You know?
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The X-Men movies take place in the "real world", so there is definately a line that won't be crossed in terms of how things look. Juggarnaut might be 12 feet tall in the books, but that just doesn't fit the universe created to fit the films. This was set in motin with the first film so it wouldn't become a fantasy picture. The sabre of reality cuts both ways.
Beast looks iffy. I applaud the effort to get a real actor on the set and to try and make it look real (theres that word again) but if this is what we get I'd just as soon prefer they left him out. Thee are just too many things that don't fit in the world they made, and I'm afraid he's one of them.
If I had to make a trade off in terms of charecters, I would ditch Storm for Cyclops in a New York minute. The have her more to balane the gender scales on the cast than for anything else considering she's such an un-dynamic and humorless charecter. Or is she just being portrayed by and un-dynamic and humorless actress?
I don't mis Nightcrawler. He was visually cool, and it would have been nice to see him in a proper X- uniform, but the gimmick of his charecter was going to get old really quick. I was never happy with the portrayal of Iceman so they could probably ditch him and I wouldn't care. Same with Rouge. Somehow, having her as some whiny kid just doesn't do it for me. Collusses will get nothing more than a glorified cameo, which is sad, but having him off screen keeps the budget down since every shot would need a CGI effect or three. Shadowcat? Why even bother? The only charecter they ever get "right" in the movies is Wolverine, and you know what, I'm just not on the Wolverine bandwagon. Never have been. He's cool enough when he's mouthing off or ripping the kidneys out of some poor fuck, but other than that, he's just a pain in the ass to Cyclops an the oddy capitivating figure of so many adolescent mutant girls dreams. I've enjoyed the X-Men films thus far, but I don't think I'm going to miss them when they are gone. -
In this movie, he is merely a mutant able to control his kinetic output so he is unstoppable once he starts moving. No magic. Also, Magneto mentions to Pyro that Juggernaught is Xavier's half-brother, not step brother, whom Xavier had put away. They never mention it again. But Juggernaught IS more than Bane. He and Colossus get to play human wrecking balls when they fight each other.
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Beast and Juggernaut look absolutely terrible. Definitely my biggest disapppointment by far. By far.
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Dec 06, 2005 1:06:31 AM CST
There will be no Sentinels because that is PRECISELY WHAT THE FA
by krullboy
20th Century FOX wants to milk X-Men for all it's worth. If they give the public what they want now, the market will dry up. Besides, what would they do then, an X-Men prequel. . .those don't work, do they? Just kidding
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This movie looks excellent and you know it, you're just too ashwamed to admit it after you and your henchmen have been bashing this project for months now.
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To the retard who said this- "and now we have to deal with Storm's retarded haircut "
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beast looks horrid. i wish they had left him out entirely.
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the whole thing just oozes "badass". From the nice beat in the background, to Cyclops acting crazy, and shooting something, to the 'floating' glasses that Wolvie picked up.... i'm already there.
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is this still the script where logan and ororo are banging all the time?
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Dec 06, 2005 1:24:33 AM CST
Does anyone realize that X-men and X-men 2 were BORING!
by frankthebunny
...I mean as far as the best super group movie, yes, X2 was, good, but Singer's movies are boring, no PIZAZZ and the script for Xmen and X2 were boring too, X3 at least shows its got some balls to throw around, even if they kill off main people, who cares, its just an adaptation of a series, if you hate it, go read "astonishing xmen" and revel its in beauty!
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Dec 06, 2005 1:26:36 AM CST
Does anyone realize that X-men and X-men 2 were BORING! .. to ad
by frankthebunny
here are great superhero movies:
Spiderman 2
Batman begins
Superman 1 and parts of 2
Unbreakable - best 1st issue comic book movie ever
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...but this looks cool (or at least not better or worse than the trailers for parts 1 & 2)
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Beast looks terrible though, and I'm a big fan of the Grammar casting choice, but they just botched that up.
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that cracked me up
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Outside of Beast and Juggernaut, this trailer gets better every time I re-watch it. Here's hoping for the best!
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but the more i look at the beast the wacker he becomes. oh god, this is painful.
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Sort of feeling indifferent on this one. I still don't know of all the decent characters they could have brought in did they choose Juggernaut especially since they have him as an ally of Magneto. The design looks pretty weak, and god damnit I was really hoping that they wouldn't screw up Beast.
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Dec 06, 2005 1:52:44 AM CST
maybe they will do Juggernaught the way they did Gandalf in LOTR
by jrbarker
Yet he still can be played by an actor. So when he is standing next to a regular man, he appears to be 12 feet tall.
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But then after you saw it you were eating your own shit. Don't get me wrong, I'm as nervous as the rest of you over how good this will be, but at least The Beast doesn't look like Frasier Crane.
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Dec 06, 2005 1:55:56 AM CST
or better yet... they hide the fact that Juggernaught can grow m
by sirbiatchreturns
sure, it would have been cool to make him massive from the start, but maybe they can make him start at normal height, but grow into this 12 foot guy when a fight needs to go down. that way we would think that Juggy looks like a POS until we actually show up at the movie and find out he still becomes badass.
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Dec 06, 2005 1:56:15 AM CST
Am I the only one who thinks the part where Jean rips the doors
by spectrebeeyatch
I'm sorry but why put that in the trailer, the doors are so obviously made of cardboard. That was only a small thing I think the trailer showed me nothing and was boring. Magneto tossing a car, we've seen this, Wolverine fighting military baddies, we've seen this. The Golden Gate bridge part looks cool but everything else has a been there and done that feel. I think Beast looks fine, Juggernaut looks awful, they should have brought Sabertooth back for the henchman. I really have no hope for the film now, oh also I like how in the teaser trailer they basically show you who is going to die, it is so obvious!!!
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Dec 06, 2005 1:58:01 AM CST
Juggernaught originally wasn't that much bigger than the x-m
by w3bzpinn3r
I have an original copy of X-Men 12, the first appearance of Juggernaught. He's at most 7 ft tall in that and muscled much like a pro wrestler. It wasn't until the late 80's/early 90's that Juggs got 20 ft tall and 10 tons, with muscles on top of muscles that don't even exist in human anatomy.
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Am I alone in thinking the lack of Cyclops or Prof X in this teaser is a bad sign? I never liked the treatment Cyclops got in the 1st 2 movies, and was hoping he would get his due in part 3. He's the team leader ... he deserves good screen time and action.
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Maybe I was just waiting for some concrete media of this sucker. It could still be a trainwreck, lets hope it's not. I'm not expecting X2 quality here. Hopefully it can at least be somewhere near as good as the first.
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They nailed it.
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...I'm no fan of Ratner's, but that teaser looked fucking sweet. The movie may end up sucking, but if you haters think the project's looking even worse after seeing that clip, then you're truly beyond hope.
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... I thought the teaser was a pretty effective teaser trailer, and I thought it owned that weak sauce SUPERMAN teaser from a few weeks ago. Will it be brilliant? I'd be shocked. But will it be a fun comic book picture? Maybe. I'm certainly not about to count it out yet.
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i thought this was the dark phoenix story? Yet most of the shots of Famke are her standing behind Magneto?
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(well except for Beast and Juggie). I like the teaser, and I agree with those who say that it pisses on the Superman one, but I can't get too excited yet. Beast rellly does need some touching up or something, the colour pallet is really off, most of Nightcrawler's scenes where darker and that made him look better.
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maybe they ran out of money and had to dye Jim Carreys outfit?
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Dec 06, 2005 2:44:07 AM CST
Moriarty is right, it was more exciting than the Superman teaser
by jrbarker
But then again, the character of Superman has never really excited me anyway.
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Dec 06, 2005 2:44:12 AM CST
RE: "Am I the only one who thinks the part where Jean rips the d
by mosdef
Yes you are. The rest of us were staring at Famke Jansen's perfect ass.
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Wow! That was the coolest thing in the trailer for me. Visually it looks awesome, I just hope the script isn't the same awful shit I've read about it. Not sure about the Dark Phoenix costume. (and yeah, it looked like two pillows were being tossed out of the way when Jean zapped those med-bay doors) And the make-up for Beast and Juggy ain't what I'd hoped for, but still not bad. As to Angel: well, that dude who plays him really seems to fit physically, but I guess time will tell about his acting. And is that Kitty Pryde as the other X-Lady? or Jubilee? Still, Petey tossin' Wolvie for a long one was wicked cool! I still have high hope sfor this one, but I do fear the worst will come of it...
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Dec 06, 2005 2:54:01 AM CST
Stealth?? Sony put out Stealth, the same company that put out Sp
by polyh3dron
Get your facts straight!
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F@cking Win XP, f@cking Quicktime 7
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Part of me thought it was cool, but part of me thought it looks like a 2nd rate version of 1 and 2. Not that they were perfect films, but they were definitely solid. Oh, and it definitely looks like Cyke and Prof. X are D-E-A-D... which as you all know is so lame. I liked the action, but I thought the music, at least the beginning synth beats were completely out of place. Also, I kind of thought her blowing the doors off was cool. I liked that they just blasted off like they were nothing, but maybe that's just me. Beast looks silly but how can you really make a furry blue science man not look at least a little silly.
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Superman wasn't supposed to be exciting so much as it was supposed to be "oh, cool, a new superman" I think. Which it did well. They're two totally different trailers. By comparing the trailers, I'd say Superman looks like a better made film though. What we've seen so far of X3 looks sort of just... average.
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Just some random thoughts. The trailer jumped around like super fast. Except when Magneto was giving his one line speech and when Famke blew open the door. And the previous two guys were right. The door looked fake and Famke has a nice ass. Think Brett Ratner is going to do ok. Unless the movie is cut like the trailer. I think he did an ok job with Red Dragon. Some major problems with the trailer though. Juggernaut should be way way bigger than that. Maybe it would've cost a lot more to make him all CGI, but one huge Juggernaut would still kick ass compared to 100's of other extra mutants that do nothing. You'd think 10 flying mutants flying into action would make pecker twitch, but it didn't. Then again, it could be just me. Finally Cyclops and Prof. X better not die. I hope they are finally done with Magneto, this is the third film with him. Bring on Apocalypse and Archangel.
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remember Onnatop?heheheheee. Just wished they make the Dark Phoenix uniform, I agreed that that would be great.
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Where is Scott Summer's brother in all this?
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Looks like Fox has a big covert marketing budget on this POS.
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I hate this new goddamn trend of releasing 'teasers' or even teasers of teasers half a year in advance of the film. I can't wait that long you bastards! Anyway after clicking through the bugger there are things I like and things I don't like. I'll wait to see the movie before judging - it doesn't look so obviously shit as Fantastic Four did but there are some things I have issues with. Never really cared for Juggernaut anyway but I have to agree he looks fucking awful. Beast - I dunno man, he doesn't look all that beastly but there was about a tenth of a second of him fighting, or at least waving his arms like he was fighting, so lets hope they have some of that crazy acrobatic stuff.. Actually, you know in the 70s when Johnny Cash started to develop a kind of middle-aged spread and grew his hair out? That's what I think Beast looks like
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I avoid script reviews because I know scripts are always re-jigged and played with right up to the director saying action. So I knew very little about the movie. But now I know, thanks to the funeral scene that not only someone dies but I know who it is because their not amongst the mourners! That's not a teaser, that was the whole bloody movie!! Thanks a lot Fox...
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Dec 06, 2005 4:08:44 AM CST
So is Juggs a mutant in this movie or will a character actually
by aust1n
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I know we're going to hear the same arguments from people about both these characters that we heard about The Thing - that originally in the comics they didn't look the way they do now etc etc.... Thing is these X movies ( and FF) seem to be increasingly looking to the Ultimate universe for characterisation/plot points/style. Or at the very least, based on modern writers' ideas (such as Mr G Morrison or Mr W Ellis) and cod-scientific explanations of X-universe stuff. Instead of wacky shit like magic helmets and pet dragons it's all wormholes and string theory now - anyway the point I'm making is that the argument that 'back in the day' they looked like movie Thing/movie Juggernaut is kind of spurious when the film-makers have no regard for 'back in the day'
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to each his own, i guess, but there is no such thing as "too much halle"; the woman is FINE! and yeah "Catwoman", sucked, but Halle was hot as shit.
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It's rocks! One of the best teaser/trailer of the year!!!
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in fact, there is very little in this trailer that makes me doubtful.. the only bad thing was Halle's leap to save Wolverine which looked very CGI Catwoman.... but other than that, i am feeling a bit more hopeful that this will at least be as good as the first film.
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http://movies.apple.com/movies/fox/x-men_3/x-men_3-pre_teaser_h480p.mov
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Dec 06, 2005 5:30:38 AM CST
shit, how preconcieved is it possible to be about this movie, ha
by colonel_blimp
that trailer was great. snap out of it and give it a chance.
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Yeah, Ratner is a hack. We all know it. But it's possible he might have made a good movie here. Let's look at what the teaser actually gives us: a) Fastball Special - everyone moaned for years they wanted to see this. b) The Danger Room - everyone moaned for years they wanted to see this c) Large Scale Mutant Battles/Destruction - everyone moaned for years they wanted to see this d) Juggernaut - everyone moaned for years they wanted to see him (Yeah he isn't 12 feet tall - get over it!! The X movies are going for a realistic "not too distant future" angle, remember?) e) Beast - people moaned for years they wanted to see him (I personally think he looks pretty cool and Grammar is great casting). f) Phoenix - people moaned for years they wanted... DO YOU SEE WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS YET? Clam up and wait until the movie actually sucks first, guys. Which, of course, it very well may do (I don't have faith in Ratner, but hopefully Marvel and the actors will manage to keep the quality level of the franchise up).
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Dec 06, 2005 6:08:47 AM CST
Alright, if you've been studying the teaser frame by frame l
by shermdawg
during the clip where the kids are being taught by Xavier, it cuts to a shot of some kids on a couch. Look at the guy sitting in the left corner, IS THAT ANAKIN????
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doom actually finds namor who is a homeless bum suffering from amnesia and doom sends him against humans. that would be a cool movie. the mole man attacking new york would also be a cool movie.
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nevermind. p.s. hally is hot.
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But in that one shot, it looks like him.
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What the fuck? I can't get the teaser trailer to load. Does anyone know if it's the site or maybe just my computer? Any answers would be greatly appreciated.
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Dec 06, 2005 6:25:23 AM CST
After seeing HELLBOY I was positive that Beast could be done rig
by brokentusk
He looks like Kelsey Grammer covered in blue paint with a leather jacket thrown in for no good reason (other than to make the make-up artists' lives easier when they're putting the make-up on, which is just lazy). The trailer was cut together well and the voice over was great, but Beast looks cheap and underwhelming. I call it like I see it.
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I hope this movie is great(l
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I mean, movies have been around for 100 years. Please list 30 better super here movies than x2. You can't? Well then, accept the decent movies you've been given, or stop claiming to be a fan of the genre. You haters are all dildos. Ben Afleck was right. The internet is a place where dorks go to bitch about movies.
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Nice to see them cast an unknown for Juggernaut!
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...from the visuals alone, it could be Ratner's best looking film by far - he's not a director with much of a palette - but it looks pretty. Killing off Cyclops is a bit of a rubbish idea (if it's true - the floating glasses and general lack of presence in the trailer indicates that) but then again, even if Marsden hadn't gone to do Supes, I doubt he would have got more screentime as it was - this looks a lot like the Halle & Hugh show, but if you got a pair of big stars there, you gotta meet their needs, even though I wouldn't have minded less Wolvie presence this time around given that he's had two films devoted to him as it is. I'm not too fussed about the killing of Xavier; it might give the characters good motivation and bring a better sense of urgency to the final act given thay they're fighting in memory of a lost loved one. I hope Ratner hits it outta the park but my money is still on Superman being the one to beat.
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Dec 06, 2005 6:50:18 AM CST
Macintrash Quicktime again? Well, at least there's no WinMed
by jackpumpkinhead
Why don't the Warner & Sony tools ever use a popular codec like (free) Xvid instead of releasing all the trailers either in Winblows Media or Quicktime? Yes, Micro$oft probably pays them for promoting WinblowMedia, but what's the point of using Quicktime in a lousy Macintrash-only version that won't play properly without QTAlt?
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... but there looks to be an extreme amount of Halle Berry in this which is not a good sign. It certainly looks like this film could be a lot of fun, but it's easy to make a good trailer from a bad film, just look at the Phantom Menace trailer!
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that was a pretty cool trailer. My hopes have (unfortunetly) been raised...hope it delivers. Oh, and is that Bullet Tooth Tony has Jaugernaut (from that pic that Fan-Boy posted)?
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It was okay. Had some cool moments. Had some lame ones (can ANYONE explain to me what Storm spinning like a top is all about?) as well. One of the things I noticed is that the girl who plays Shadowcat (Ellen Page, I think?), who everybody was accusing of being some sort of quasimoto in the article about her casting, looks downright adorable. Sometimes our collective first impression isn't the right one.
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but that teaser kicked ass. I really don't understand what more people want. The worst part is, if it was that exact same teaser, but with some acclaimed director's name attached to it, the same people who didn't like it would be doing flips for it
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There comes a point where you're being intelectually dishonest just to support your point (which in this case is "Ratner sucks"). I'm a huge fan of the first 2 movies, even though in retrospect the first one, honestly, wasn't exactly spectacular. But your point about how this isn't adapting something directly from the comics is ludicrous, given that the first 2 really didn't either. (Maybe a slight whiff of "God Loves, Man Kills") I like Singer. I'll see Superman. I was hoping he'd make X3. But from what I've seen so far, this looks pretty close to the spirit of the comics, moreso than X-1 and X-2, and looks to offer the type of full-on battle scene we've (admit it) been waiting for, even if it is in the Danger Room (which , come to think of it, everyone's also been crying to see and Singer didn't offer). I was holding out, and still am to an extent, but I'm now oficially excited by this.
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And I specifically remember the cover with the cracked ruby visor. Of course, like everyone else in four color, he eventually returned ... but there is a funny-book precedent. Personally, I'm take great offense to the Wolvie/Storm hookup that was in the AICN-reviewed draft. Now, that's just stupid. I'll see "X3" and hope for the best, but if you think it's gonna be better than "Superman Returns," you're just deluding yourself. Ratner is a competent action director with no gift for story. Singer is one of the best story guys Hollywood has behind the camera.
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"I take greater offense to the Wolvie/Storm hookup..."
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I think the trailer looks great, it will be a fun movie... I liked the first two X-Men and my wife liked them too! She is not into comic books but they are decent movies... this one looks to have tons of action!
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"You losers know that if Bryan Singer was attached to this trailer, you'd be pissing your pants. This movie is going to friggin' rule." Ummm, no. I thought the trailer was just okay because, to me, the trailer was just okay. Not because I have a love affair with Bryan Singer.
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That looked pretty darn good!
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Dec 06, 2005 7:26:33 AM CST
um, harry? all the other sites, or at least many of them, are re
by holodigm
just putting it out there
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Seconded on the Beast. He looks a lot better in live action than he did in that promo still USAToday released yesterday. I also dig the Grant Morrison-esque leather jacket.
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I call shenanigans!
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Yea, that teaser owned the supes one by far. Maybe it's time to stop paying attention to all of the negative hype this site is throwing at this movie.
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They've got my interest, although Vinny Jones does look like he's wearing a plastic body suit, and Beast doesn't look very, well, beastly. They should have just asked Ron Perlman to dig out his Vincent costume and spray that blue.
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and all i can say is wow that rocked. It looks like this is going to be the end of the war story and it looks like the dark phoniex will be carried on. yay.
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I think I'm more impressed with quicktime 7. It's that good!
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This trailer lacks any real power. Both the dialog and the action seem rather lacklustre.
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Dec 06, 2005 7:55:53 AM CST
Only 171 days, 4,095 hrs, and 245,644 minutes untill X3 opens!!
by shermdawg
Better get in line now fucktards!!!!
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I mean, come on! You don't show funeral scenes in teaser trailers! Especially closeups of the people AT the funeral. Kinda easy to tell who bought the farm eh? Beast just looks ridiculous. Remember the old Moss Man action figure from He-Man? That's the first thing I thought of when I saw him, well only blue instead of green.
Not digging Tina Turner as Storm either. That scene where she's spinning like a top and punching people looked incredibly stupid. Maybe it'll get reworked like the 'Wolvie thrown off the Statue of Liberty' scene was.
And the music! Do they hate Singer so much that they'd completely rule out using music from his movies for a teaser? They obviously still love his set design though.
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But then, I thought Aliens vs. Predator looked good too, so what do I know?
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Did they take the trailer down or is the server just overloaded? I've been looking at a black window for over three hours. If that is all the movie has to offer-silent night scenes-I'm not impressed, but it makes Beast look okay.
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Trailer looks good and the music adds to it too. Ben Foster looks like he hit the gym hard for this. Love the fact that Colosuss is with the team now. Was that the fastball special Wolverine was doing? Juggernaut looks good too.
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Dec 06, 2005 8:04:30 AM CST
styhthr , I never got the trailer to work on the official site.
by shermdawg
So I downloaded quicktime 7 and watched it on apple.com.
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I'm going to use a metaphor designed to piss off you homophobic gits. Say your dating this guy and you find out he's a lowdown two-timing cheating dog. He comes back to you begging, whining, "oh honey, I slipped up, just once, never again, I swear..." Sure enough you catch the bastard shagging your best friend in your bedroom. You throw the bum out, you kick his sorry ass out the front door and say get lost you skanky pig. Harry's been burned, Ratner has given him NO reason to trust him and every reason not to. How many shitty fucked up movies does it take? Harry's so called prejudice is not some irrational bias like you haters who call anything you don't like "gay" but the hard learned experience of one who has been let down over and over again. (as for the gay thing, isn't it funny that "straight" Ratner has more hot guys topless than "gay" Singer ever did?)
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I bet he's gonna be marginalized and look sucky. Juggs looks like he is wearing Khan's silicone muscles. Beast is decent. Everything else looks aight.
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I'll give it a try.
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oh, and thanks!
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I love it! On one side of the coin some films get hyped up (cough Kong cough) and prove to be just a film. On the other side films get bashed from the get go (for what ever reason) and end up being 'ok' .... anyway the point is - I love watching the end result. Because so often this site just looses site of itself. I get entertained... then I post. ha.
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I read the script review from a few months back. I know what may be projected on screen in May... But I can't help but feel that this trailer looks truely epic and the all out war and serval major deaths is completely fitting for a final film of a franchise. I guess when I read the review I just felt like... How are they deciding to do all this and how are they gonna make a decent X-4. Sounds like 'The Last Stand' WILL BE the 'Last Stand' which gives them a bit more room to stray for the books, imo. As for the trailer, YES some of the characters could look better but I'm guessing Grammer's Beast will be AMAZING regardless, and Juggs will probably be in to seconds of the movie anyway (think Toad). The rest of the trailer looks great, and while I'm not thinking this movie is on a 'X2' level (which everyone feels the need to bash, in order to support X3... which is stupid... Youloved it then, you love it now... shit the fuck up) I think it will at least exceed X1, and that's all I've ever hoped for for this flick.
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Well, now that I've had some time for it to steep, and I've watched it 35 times... I liked it. Didn't love it. A couple of gasp moments -- fastball special, more colossus is always a good thing. Beast still looks goofy, and Juggie looks really goofy, but I'm ok with him not being 9 feet tall. I just wish they had simply gotten a bigger guy to play him, instead of putting Vinnie in a Bane suit. But those gripes aside, it has serious potential for large-scale mutant mayhem, which is something that frequently occured in the comics, but never in the films. So... I'll simply have to wait and see. There are some seriously nasty plants in this talkback though, which is kind of sad.
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I must admit that when I heard that Brett Ratner was doing the next X-Men film, that I wasn't expecting all that much, though looking at the trailer, I think that perhaps Mr. Ratner will show some vision.
Though some things rub me the wrong way in the trailer, like: Storm's martial abilities. In the comics she was never the hand-to-hand combat type of person--remember she was worshipped as a goddess at one point--and to see her going Gymkata on someone doesn't quite feel right.
The Juggernaut. From the shot of him being restrained he looked no larger than the average human. I am wondering why forced perspective wasn't used (which made the normal sized people look like Hobbits in LOTR) to make him look more massive.
The Beast. I get the sinking feeling that they are going to stuff him into some leather suit the entire film, a hint of which is seen in the trailer. The problem with this is that the Beast's whole animalistic nature (his acrobatic abilities primarily) precludes him from wearing much in the way of clothing because it would interfere with his movement.
Other than that, it actually looks pretty good.
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Dec 06, 2005 8:35:56 AM CST
Oh but the music, it felt like it was ripped off of the Yoda rap
by blacket-man
terrible, just palin terrible. As for the Fastball special, I think Hugh Jackman is way to big for this to be pulled off effectively.
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...around 1:24 in the trailer. It might be worth it just for that.
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I was very pleased with the teaser trailer. I'm glad they are showing more with teasers these days and for all of those who have a short memory. The X2 teaser didn't show any footage and you guys are probably confused with that one. This is probably one of the best teasers I have ever seen but remember it's just a teaser, just like Phantom Menace was great at teasing us the movie was no where as good. So I'm still gonna be cautious and not raise my hopes plus it's better to keep low expectations. But while I wait till may I'm gonna watch this trailer over and over. It kicked ass!!!
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But I'm certainly intrigued... bad choice of music for the trailer at the start though... but hey, it is a teaser...
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Dec 06, 2005 9:01:54 AM CST
Stop sucking Singer's cock. X2 was not the fucking end all b
by mr. profit
Seriously, stop hating on X3. It's getting old. Ratner may be a total jackass in real life but you cant take away that he is a good hired gun. And Red Dragon was a good movie. It's no Manhunter, but it did it's fucking job. He also knows how to fucking make a movie look like they spent a couple of bucks on it. Singer on the other hand makes pale looking films and it's a shame that he is still getting a pass for his work on The Usual Suspects. Also annoying is how he can seriously work fanboys into fellating him endlessly online. X2 was only "Good" because it was better than X1. X1 was "Good" because it did not outright suck. But both films do not hold up with time. I tried to rewatch to see if I was wrong and I couldn't get through it. Especially after those Xena caliber fire special effects in Jean Grey's eyes. X3 may very well be the 1st good Xmen film. But then again it could suck really bad. But you can't make such a judgement by watching 2 minutes of video. And hey it was way better than the boring Superman Returns trailer that left my theater silent when it was shown. People cheered more for the Kong trailer and that shit has been on TV for weeks now.
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That's the one thing this movie was crying out for. I wish they would have had GIANT ROBOTS!!!
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Ratner is a hack. Yes, this is something we all know. And one cool trailer isn't going to change that. But this doesn't look completely terrible. Does seem like we saw an awful lot of the plot, though. Thought this was a teaser? What will we see in the actual trailer? Xavier's actual death? The final 10 minutes of the film? Geez.
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Dec 06, 2005 9:11:05 AM CST
Don't you people realize if the Sentinels were to show up in
by shermdawg
Fox will put a gay ass twenty foot purple robot in a X-men flick! (Maybe thats why Singer left.) Sure it would be cool, but it ain't gonna happen.
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Cyclops still dies at the lake doesn't he?
All that's left is ruby quartz glasses being held by telekinesis :|
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Dec 06, 2005 9:12:30 AM CST
realistically you ALL know a CGI beast would have been worse
by rcamacho2278
But I was expecting the makeup department to be at least a LITTLE better. He really looks bad and distracting. At least nightcrawler was dark, brooding, and dont well. He looks Really Really BAD. and that's gonna hurt the movie.
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Now... lets just hope that they didn't kill off Scott. Unlike the first two movies I won't see this on opening night... I'm going to wait until day 4 or 5 and see what the general feeling is.
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I gotta get some sleep.
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When I first read that early draft spoiler script review, I prayed it was just a "joke" script, one that had drastically been altered. Obviously, this teaser trailer seems to indicate otherwise. I understand these are movies and must take on a life of their own, but it just feels like such a betrayal of the world they established in the first two films. It just feels like rather than create the best possible story for the characters, they created a script that pandered to the actors they had in the film. Cyclops was casted with a lesser actor than Storm, so Cyclops gets slightly more screen time in the whole trilogy than Stan Lee's cameos. Only slightly, mind you. And to have him die in such a stupid meaningless way is such a slap in the face to the character. If it was just a comic, they'd have a dozen ways to bring him back before the end of the story. But since they're in the real world established in the prior films, he's just finished. Just like that. The death of Xavier sucks too, but that one I can see having some purpose to it (besides the fact that no one could ever replace Patrick Stewart in the role, and he probably won't be able to do it forever). Cyclops dying simply by being "vaporized" or whatever by Phoenix actually cheapens the later death of Xavier. If they want to kill someone off in a pointless way, why not Halle Berry? The character of Storm was never as important or interesting as Cyclops, ESPECIALLY in regards to a Dark Phoenix storyline. I think what bothers me the most about this is that it feels, to me, like a huge stain on an otherwise fascinating script concept. I liked a lot of what I read in that spoiler script review, especially the background stuff for the Phoenix. I don't know. I'm just worried this is going to tarnish what was otherwise a decent (not perfect or great) film series. With the title "Last Stand" stuck to X3, it seems like they want to make this the final film. Rushing through production to meet a release date sounds like a pretty good way to achieve that goal. Could Ratner pull this out? Sure, I have no problems with him as a director. I think Rush Hour is pretty funny. But under these time constraints, I'm not sure anyone would be able to hit it out of the park.
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and for those who hate spoilers, deviate from this post right now..........i can't believe they're REALLY going ahead with the whole "kill off xavier" thing. if you pause on the funeral sequence to see who is showin in frame, you'll notice 1) xavier and cyclops are absent (also, wolverine holding scott's broken glasses at the lake hints that they're gonna go ahead and kill him off, too...why, oh why?), and 2) moira is at the funeral. i can't imagine she'd be at the funeral of anyone EXCEPT xavier, can you? very annoying. why would you kill those two off? and i won't forgive them for the absence of nightcrawler. anyway...if you also notice, at the end when magneto is walking with his army of mutants, jean grey is at his left arm right in front of juggernaut (who, by the way, totally looks lame). and beast...yeah, so, did they just give him wolverine's leather jacket from the first movie and call it a wardrobe? lame. redeeming factor is the fact that colossus will be involved a lot more...you can't tell me you didn't get a couple chills in X2 during the attack on the mansion when he got to briefly do his thing. i'm holding out hope that rattner can give us something decent, but with the deaths of xavier and cyclops seeming to be actually happening in this one i'm not sure it's gonna happen. on the bright side...famke walking around in those short shorts in that one clip...YOWZA!
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It's bad enough to fall into the overdone cliche of bringing back dead characters...but at least have some mystery to it. The first was OK, too short and too cheaply done. Loved the second, but I'll probably wait on reviews before I decide to see this or not.
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Dec 06, 2005 9:27:09 AM CST
So are they planning an X4? Is this a big finale or does it set
by minderbinder
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Scope out THAT flash intro! That in itself is already way better than the X3 trailer!!!! What's X3? http://www.sonypictures.com/movies/silenthill/
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Dec 06, 2005 9:42:11 AM CST
If you were to make a arguement that the Sentinels were in the
by shermdawg
check out the two laser bolts that fly past Storm in the Danger Room sequence at 58 seconds into the teaser.
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during Xavier's funeral, Beast will bust into a rendition of "Tossed Salad and Scrambled Eggs" for no damn reason.
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But the second one wasn't really that good. And while I don't know how good the 3rd one is going to be, I do like the look of this trailer...
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I'm not officially looking forward to this movie; exactly what a teaser trailer should do. Has the torch been passed? Superman Returns is looking less and less like something I care about, but all of a sudden X3 looks like something I'd want to see.
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of course, it may very well suck, but this looks cool as shit to me.
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Dec 06, 2005 10:22:42 AM CST
you bashers are full of shit and most of you will pay your $8 to
by rupee88
I will download it and watch it, but I won't pay a dime to see it...FF was worth watching, but not worth paying for and encouraging...same here.
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Dec 06, 2005 10:27:36 AM CST
I'm more impressed that I thought I'd be. And I had LOOO
by xxmr_bojanglesxx
As usual, I think this fanboy complaining is blown WAY out of proportion. The Beast make-up is far better than I expected. You guys are all in denial. CGI isn't always the answer. As is the case for Beast. If anything it would have made the movie look faker with all the action that's going on in the movie. A CGI Beast would've stood out like a sore thumb more than a made-up Kelsey Grammer. Just imagine a blue "Hulk" standing next to Wolverine and Storm in these scenes. And seriously... what were you expecting Juggernaut to look like on film? I'm not the biggest Ratner fan either (although I hardly waste all my energy hating him either), but judging by this trailer, he's so far exceeded my expectations as far as his vision for the movie. And yes... this teaser's way better than Superman. You had to STRAIN to give that trailer a change, if you did at all.
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Dec 06, 2005 10:40:58 AM CST
no catwoman-bad, no spiderman-good, more fantastic-four-meh...
by silverdog
and like someone said before, too much halle, not enough famke...
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The one thing that thrilled me was that Magento was doing what he should've been doing since the beginning of the frachise: leading a LARGE group of mutants, as opposed to his wee-li'l ragtag group of rejects he had in the first two films. Beast looks terrible. I can't say anything about Juggernaut yet, as I have not seen him in action. I'm still hoping, but I'm not expecting much. I hope, at least, the action's decent.
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Here's a nice shot from the trailer and he looks pretty big to me. It also looks like they modeled his helmet after Magnetos which could be some plot point. The abs do look kind of silly though.
Does HTML even work in here? if not...
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I have rotten teeth just like my mommy. :)
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it just looks like Ian McKellen is gonna squeeze one off on your face. He closes his eyes and makes that creepy look. eeeewwwww.
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Dec 06, 2005 11:05:42 AM CST
Finally! Where were you guys? At the King Kong Premiere?
by orionsangels
The Entire AICN staff was at the King Kong Premiere? They left Charlie the AICN Mascot dog in charge. I'll say it again about the X-teaser, looks pretty epic, but Jaugernaut reminds me of Ram-man from the He-man cartoon.
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You're not fooling anyone with your strategically-placed bad grammar, douchebags. "This is the best teaser maybe evar but maybe that's no reason to get excited just saying!" LOL.
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"As for the Fastball special, I think Hugh Jackman is way to big for this to be pulled off effectively." Um... buddy - Colossus can throw cars. You don't think he can throw Hugh Jackman? Try to think just a little bit before you post. And Ribbons - watch where you step, please stay out of the garden. Some of the plants are quite sensitive.
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more than likely plotting his next blind siding, underhanded hit on another AICN contributor
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Like someone said, BEAST looks like a cheap blue Grinch!
Aaagghh why did he shave his face?
JUGGERNAUT....why is it that they use CGI
for useless little things but when you need a 3.5 meter tall walking man-tank they use a crap football (soccer for you yanks) player?
Why use a actor for juggernaut/ like he is going to say much.
and that helmet is 10 times more worse that magneto's helmet, and while were on that subject... 3 movies 3 haircuts for storm but why
cant Magneto step out of that stupid suit and
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I completely dug the hell out of this trailer and I think Brett Ratner's gonna surprise us all with a collective boot to our asses. I've gotten over my objections to the SHOCK!! GASP!! spoilers we've heard and learned to accept them for what they are. The first death--yes, I want something more. But it also feels like it works. As for the second, it's the place the comics have been afraid to go to for real, and it's the place they've always needed to. This will not be the last film in this series. It may be the last for the newly Storm-centric team, but check out that shot of Moira, Beast, Colossus, Kitty, Iceman, and Rogue at the funeral. There's the future of your franchise. Also, as I understand it, Magneto's little club in the trees there IS going to be called the Hellfire Club, with Phoenix being the Black Queen. (Joblo posted something about that a while back.) Works for me.
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Dec 06, 2005 11:24:48 AM CST
The reason people on this site are acting negatively towards thi
by brokentusk
And the reason people on this site constantly wish that Bryan Singer was directing this film is that he would have a. had a great input as to where the story went, b. he would have brought back his writers Mike Dougherty and Dan Harris to write the script (not the guy who wrote XXX2: STATE OF THE UNION), c. the film would have completed Singer's trilogy and would have fit in with the world he created on screen. Bringing in another director was not a good decision. I actually think Brett Ratner can be quite an excellent director sometimes (RED DRAGON), but having ANY other director jump onboard somebody else's series (cause, like it or not, this is Singer's X-MEN universe) is asking for trouble. This film might not suck, it might even be a lot of fun, but it won't be the film Bryan Singer would have made - and that's the film people really want.
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This almost seems like a full on trailer, but as far as teasers go, this one is very good. Despite Rattner (which I can't say I hate, merely dislike as a director) I am now excited about this one. Looks so much more epic than Singer's X-Movies.
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What the hell Harry? They are doing the Dark Phoenix story (mixed in with
some of Joss Whedon's Mutant Cure story). Isn't the Phoenix story THE cool
X-Men story to see? I share all the worry that Ratner will fuck this up and
all, but there is plenty of material here to make a kick ass movie from the
source material. I know Giant Robots give you a hard on and all, but it's
not like there even is any particularly great story involving the Sentinels
except Days of Future Past, and methinks they aren't going to be doing an
Alternate Reality Future story in these films any time soon. I am nervous
about this movie, but it's obvious you are trying very hard to not like any
of the images you see from it at this point. Beast looks good. The teaser is
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Avi Arad quote >>> "I'm getting Gambit - I have a great idea for Gambit but I can't say what it is" ....... Gambit ftw tbh
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Dec 06, 2005 11:32:56 AM CST
BTW, I Agree Whole Heartedly With MAGNETO's Worldview...
by zombiesolutions
Professor X is a pussssssay. WE ARE GODS AMONG INSECTS!!! DESTROY ALL THE HUMANS!!! MUTANT POWER FOREVER!!! (sorry)
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I completely agree. Although, this is a good teaser trailer, I am very apprehensive about the wonderboys Kinberg and Penn. Even though Penn is one of Singer's boys, I still have some sort of apprehension towards his writing. Definitly Kinberg I have a problem with. People may rave that he wrote Mr. and Mrs. Smith as a masters thesis?, but he did write that downright offensive XXX:2. Yes, that came from his brain. They use these guys as a quick job to get a fast script done. I don't like the sound of it. I think that this footage is good because it isn't showing much, just random cool mutant stuff which we all, as nerds, eat up. I think the overall product will disappoint. But, please prove me wrong, Ratner, Kinberg, and Penn. Prove me wrong.
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... Maris!!!
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I think this looks awesome and I thought colossus throwing wolverine was nicely done, just like the comics. Dark phoenix already eh? *in mr burns manner* excellent! I'd wish good luck to the x-men but they're pretty f'ing screwed if dark phoenix is around. Why is cyclops so upset though? he no look so happy :( did he just realize jean's gone? or does he get teased with her return only for her to join magneto and take her proper place in lead of the hellfire club, so when does she die again? will it be like every other movie? she dies, gets reborn cause she's the phoenix you know, that's what she does. Plus there is reference to a young jean gray(haley ramm), so we're going to get some background on her whole story. my fingers are crossed for this film
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It looks like they are merging the Dark Phoenix saga with the rise of the Brotherhood of Mutants in a Genosha/House of M style. Anyone else notice that the costumes have been modified a bit to look like the covers of Grant Morrison's New X-Men? It may fall short of the last 2 films but Ill still see it because Jackman makes a great Wolverine and I like Anna Paquin's junk in her trunk.
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So cast a fucking teen Beast, Cyclops and Marvel Girl and make the fucking movie you should have made to begin with!
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Where morons like Glenn the Tool can pretend they know something about producing movies. Fox execs hated X-men? Then why did they make it you fuck stick? And why did they make a sequel? Because they make money and they are in the money making business. Personal tastes aside they want the films to make money so while they may have been interfering on the set it was because they thought their interference would make a better movie which would make more money. Seriously, there isn't one exec in the history of the world who thought "I'll make a shitty movie and hope it fails at the box office because I hate the concept!" People think execs are petty little animals who'll fuck over someone or some idea because they disagree.Well, that's just fucking wrong and fucking stupid. If you are that sort of person and that causes your movie to tank, guess what you ain't fuckin' working in Hollywood again. Execs may be petty but they have better ways of getting revenge then fucking over a director, writer during production.
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But the only way this film will deliver is if it surprises the hell out of all of us and turns out to be a 3-hour long goddamn epic. Which it won't.
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the entire reason that the main new characters suck for me is the whole judge dredd complex. Because their big stars their faces must be seen at all time, thats why jugg's mask is all gladiatory instead of the traditional three hole thing, and the beast looking like the grinch, so you can see grammer's face. Could anyone see quicksilver in the brotherhood section?
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that was plenty cool for a teaser!
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Anyone picked up on the muscle suit worn by Vinnie Jones? Guess it's the same kinda suit as The Thing wore in FF...
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Dec 06, 2005 12:12:19 PM CST
Who's the asian mutant standing behind Magneto during his sp
by blindambition238
Sunfire perhaps? On a side note, I don't think that the real problem with X3 is or will be Ratner, (I actually thought he did a good job with Red Dragon), but simply the script and direction they are going with the charcters. BTW does anyone have any info about all this talk about rebooting or continuing the franchise at Paramount? Im totally curious.
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Actually looks pretty decent, epic almost...got my interest piqued.
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Dec 06, 2005 12:14:33 PM CST
did anyone ever think for a second that the funeral might be a m
by oisin5199
Script review this, script review that. Even if that was the script (and the writers said it was an early draft), the reviewers admitted it was only 2/3 or something. No one has any idea what happens in the last act. So why don't people stop bitching about a script they've never seen and wait for the movie! Meanwhile, enjoy this kickass trailer. The movie is six months off, so I'm sure they're not done with Beast or Jugs effects yet, so we probably haven't seen everything. And I said it on the other thread, having Jugs be 12ft tall with his original helmet would make no sense. There's no mystical Gem here (thankfully), just a mutant and I'm sure Magneto gave him his helmet so he's not vulnerable to Xavier. And it's a movie, folks. We want to see the actors' faces. Everyone who bitches about adaptations and changes have obviously never followed a comic over a long run. Every artist changes the look entirely, especially when it serves the plot. Movies are no different. As long as it serves the story, I have no problem with it. Still wondering who the other 2 mutants are on that hilltop with Magneto, Jean, Jugs, Callisto, Pyro and Stacy X. Any ideas?
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Each X3 dvd may own a 7" space at your local Blockbuster, but not much else. Without Singer attached, I fear that X3 will be another FF. Instantly forgettable. How about the Ghost Rider movie? I place my bet right now that that one will SHOCK the fanboys on this site. Mark Steven Johnson proved on Daredevil that he has a grasp on the material he is directing, likes his material dark and Nick Cage is a self-confessed Ghost Rider fanboy himself. You will diss Ghost Rider until the day it comes out, but I have a feeling it will own.
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I was thinking it was early in the film before anyone realizes Jean isn't actually dead. The crazy reaction shots of Marsden and Jackman ('Clops and Wolvie) would fit into this scheme, you know, they go to pay silent tribute at alkali lake and feel a pressssssence (cue creepy music) after they have already "buried" her.
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what "fastball special" is for me? i'm not very well versed on x-men other than the old cartoon series, the movies, general knowledge and a few comics here and there, and i dont have a clue what fastball special is, but apparently it's in this...
also, as to sentinels...there was one shot in a trailer where some closet looking thing was opening up and it LOOKED, at least to me, very similar to a shrunken down sentinel inside...of course it cut away so quickly i didn't get a great look, but still... -
about the sentinel thing. went back and looked...oops, it was vinnie jones coming out of the closet. i'm over it.
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duh :D that scene in the trees looks like magneto's in charge not phoenix, but she does look pissed off eh? big trouble big smile
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...that is Jean's funeral scene at the very beginning of the movie.
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Dec 06, 2005 12:46:50 PM CST
Just because it isn't adapting any of the comic's materi
by edward brock
By that order SM2, the 1st X-Men, Superman (1978), Batman(1989) and most other comic book movies were trash. Even X2 was a "light" adaptaion of some of the comic's material. The teaer was WAAAAYYY to revealing though. I have the feeling I just watched the whole movie.
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Perhaps it is Jeans funeral, but there's no Cyclops or Prof X there...
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Dec 06, 2005 12:54:53 PM CST
Kelsey Grammer's performance in X3 will eclipse Jimmy Smitts
by incrediburgible
...YOU JUST WAIT, YOU HATERS
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how badly they've fucked up cyclops so far in these movies...sighs
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And loved hearing Stewart's narration. Looks a lot better than I thought, especially considering how terrible the action in the Rush Hour flicks were (stagey fights, boring set pieces, goofy MTV angles), but man, he looks to have definitely learned a thing or two since then. Hopefully the the scriptwriters picked up some talent before writing this flick too (my concern for this movie was renewed after watching Mr and Mrs Smith last weekend, what a terrible flick, not even good in a mindless, fun action movie kind of way, and I have a lot more love Doug Liman than Ratner). But anyways, gotta put my lack of faith in this aside and admit that was a killer "announcement" teaser.
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when i saw the x2 trailer at the beginning of the Two Towers I was sweating by the end of it. I wanted to see that movie right then. I dont feel that with this trailer. Im still not excited, im just not. The story just sucks. and thats it.
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At the start of the movie they all think she's dead, right? 'Cause that's where we (or the X-Men at least) left things at the end of the last movie. Am I missing something?
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and the reason Cyclops and Xavier arent in the shot is because Cyclops could be lighting that eternal flame or whatever (the showed someone's hands putting a flower down) and Xavier could be doing the eulogy. but still...why would Moira be there if it wasnt for Xavier?
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You can find the best fastball special EVER right here: http://www.mutanthigh.com/2001/041103.jpg It's from Astonishing X-Men #6, when Colossus chucks Wolvie up at Ord's departing spaceship.
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Either Kitty Pride or Illyana (his sister). Could be. Ya never know. Who says that's Moira?
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Why do I keep getting a broken Quicktime Q whenever I try to watch this? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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Make sure you have the newest version, 7.0.2.
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Regarding the setinels, I read on a toy biz list for next year, that one of the items in the
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Or yours. I don't really care. You know what would be the funniest shit? If Harry actually gave 'KK' a negative review. I'd probably pass out. There's not a glacier's chance in hell that that would happen.
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I appreciate the tip!
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Makes me want to see it more than ever. I should really stop listening to you guys. That's how you make a trailer- Big bad mutant battle royale. That's all I've ever really wanted, I realize that now.
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What's funny about the (upcoming) Kong Review is that although we all know this is the last place we would look to get an unbiased review of Kong, it's also the review I'm most looking forward to read. Wonder why that is....
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Dec 06, 2005 1:50:57 PM CST
While I enjoyed the first 2 X-movies, this is the first traile
by lone fox
It actually looked like the 'comic-book X-Men', as opposed to the 'film version', if you know what I mean.
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looks surprisingly decent.apart from having an ugly little angel flexing his puny muscles.worst casting in the whole series.not too sure about beast's makeup either,juggernaut also looks a bit funny.but i cant believe some people are complaining about storm's hair,she finally gets to use her real hair and behold,people want the fluffy white birdnest back...i could complain about the whole thing looking too clean and shiny,but the same can be said about singer's xmen.
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Bryan Singer is really nothing special. The X-Men movies are far from spectacular, just above average action fare. I wouldn't be surprised if Ratners take on X-men far exceeds Singers versions. It might expose Singers flaws, though I can really only judge this mans talents after I view Superman. Ratner is still a hack in my book, but I think the X-Men movies may be one of the better comic book series to hide behind. Ratner will have a hard time with the fans, just because of who he is, but when it comes down to it, and you compare the three films side by side, I think the debate will be quite clear.
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To everyone who is ragging on the Beast's look: I'm not sure what you were expecting. I mean, he looks like the comics version, doesn't he? Maybe you'd prefer if he was the pre-Amazing-Adventures-#11 Beast, with no fur and just big hands and feet? How boring would that have been? I think Grammer looks great. Juggernaut... eh, if they'd have just given him the ture Juggy helmet, I could've lived with his size. The helmet IS the character, dammit! Oh, well, a minor quibble. The rest of the trailer looks surprisingly great!
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I love how people WANT to hate this movie so bad.
Everyone thought Xmen would suck, and that Hugh looked like ass.
Everyone thought X2 would suck, and that Cummings looked like ass.
I think beast looks pretty damn good, and Angel looks great.
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Will Bobby Drake dump Rogue for Shadowcat?
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Actually, I'm pretty stoked right about now. Excellent trailer. I'm there opening day. As far as the look of the beast and Juggy goes, eh, I thought the same thing about Ben Grimm's rubber suit and Johnny's flame fx for FF in there trailer. Once it was released they had addressed most of those issues. It's too early to start biting. Wait until the film comes out.
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But, you just can't kill Cyclops! It'd be better if he just weren't in the fucking movie. "Where's Cyclops?" "He's on vacation." "Oh. Okay."
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Are you running QT 7? Maybe that's the problem? Check it out.
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I'm with ya on this doing better than Superman but your searing hatred of Batman Begins has once again betrayed you because FF most certainly DID NOT do better business than BB. Actually BB made about 50 million more in domestic and international grosses. HOWEVER, since BB had about 60 grand more of a budget then I guess they're even. Which pretty much explains why FF was such a flaming piece of meh. I mean the freekin' back to basics Batman movie had twice it's budget. No wonder it looked like a fucking Xena episode. The New Doctor Who had better effects in it than FF.
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X3, From best to worst *****
Best = Angel, Good = Beast, OK = Storm's hair, Bad = Twirly bird Storm, Really bad = funerals for characters that should not die, Worst = the score (I hope it just a temp track for the trailer).
Oh, and the bad Juggs design goes in with "Bad" with the twirly Storm. It could have been worse. I like the area around the neck, with the bolts and stuff, but some of it looks pretty fake. I hope there's some CG enhancement. And Beast's arms should have been longer. Oh, and in that shot where Magneto is walking straight at the camera with his clan, is that Gambit to the far left of the screen? He's the tallest one with a trenchcoat. Eh, I'm probably delusional, but if so, I called it first. Overall score for trailer = B.
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It looks like they're trying to jam 20 years of comics into one movie. That's what ruined the later Batman movies. They should have done the Dark Phoenix story or the Juggernaut or the Brotherhood instead of jamming them all in there.
That said, Famke is looking very purty...
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...people are eating their own shit already. That was a good trailer, if a couple of costumes ruin the entire thing, you're a spoiled little brat. Some idiot actually said "The Superman trailer wasn't meant to be exciting, just let the people know a new Superman movie is comiing out." I can imagine the marketing people getting together: "Let's NOT cut an exciting trailer, let's just inform the audience that a new movie is coming out" And the moron who says Storm has never been a hand to hand fighter know nothing about Storm...and someone upstairs must love me to have ANOTHER X-Men comic with little Cyclops. What a vagina of a character. I can't say if the final product will be good but I can say 1. Rush Hour was funny 2. The Grinch's costume was good 3. Jugg's costume is actually...no, that's still pants.
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I mean 60 million, eh you freekin' know what I meant. Nolan and company spent more on grappling guns and flying bat rigs then Fox probably spent on their entire effects budget.
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Umm... you're basic this on what, exactly? THIS preview? Seriously? You know 'X3' is gonna be the definitive X-Men movie because of THIS preview? What was so special about this preview that I seem to be not getting? A Fastball Special? Vinnie Jones in a gimp outfit? Storm, the incredible whirling dervish? Beh. You know what? Fine. It rocks. More power to you, whatever. I just can't wait 'til all these geeks cannibalize Singer, the "traitorous hack," because of some fealty to Marvel Comics. "It looks *more* like a comic book than Singer's!" "It doesn't have to be like the comic books to be good, Harry!" Fanboys can't decide on what they want.
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... but i'm not sold on the movie yet. i liked the first 2 movies, and i always liked them. i even liked the trailers, i was just excited they were making x-men movies period. i think the films are great, some people have other expectaions of what they should be, and that's cool. i think singer was fighting an uphill battle with the films the whole time, and in light of that he did a fantastic job. as far as beast and juggernaught, well, beast i'm gonna hold out on till i see more. i never thought ian was a good magneto until i saw him ACT like magneto, and realized that's all it needed. could be the same with beast. as for juggs, i really think they needed to go bigger, cg or no cg. and for all the guys who are ranting at "the haters" for wanting a cg juggs, well, imagine a non cg colussus. that's what us juggs fans are getting in this movie. in fact, if colussus hadn't already been established the x2, i bet a million dollars they would've tried a non cg colussus. thanks for saving our ass on that one singer.
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Dec 06, 2005 2:38:49 PM CST
The suckage of Schumie's Batman movies had nothing to do wit
by gheorghe zamfir
Everytime a multiple villain comes up people saying that's what ruined Batman, its just not true. What ruined Batman was an extremely concious choice to make the movies ridiculous and campy, it didn't matter how many villains were in there they still would have sucked. Its not like if Poison Ivy and Bane were left out of Batman and Robin that Bat-skates and the hockey playing henchman would have become a classic movie moment.
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That's the actress cast as Moir McTaggert. She played Bruce Willis's wife in The Sixth Sense.
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Jamie Madrox.
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I know a lot of people liked Batman Returns, but even then the screen was starting to get a little crowded. I'm not a huge fan of the Spider-Man flicks, but I thought it was wise to keep Harry Osborne as a subplot in the second movie... it just made for a better story.
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It's true in part. An individual fanboy can wholeheartedly decide on what he wants and stubbornly stick to it nomatter what. Get a couple thousand fanboys together each individually bleating what they want and you have this TalkBack senario. "It sucks!" "It rocks! YOU suck!" "It doesn't rock but it's ok, THIS sucks but THIS is cool." "You all suck for liking it in the first place!" " You suck! This Rocks!" "This Rocks but HE sucks" "He rocks but his costume sucks" and so on and so forth. I've never seen such a passionate yet disorganized ball of chaotic opinions like fanboys. Honestly I don't even see what good we're doing on here since the opinions are so varied. It's like Mutant Opinion Stalemate. Look if you get to the point where you're like those geeks in the Evan Dworkin cartoon, it's time to stop and do some soul searching.
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While I don't think both X-Men movies are the best comic book flicks the industry has to offer I do think Singer did a pretty decent job bringing the X-Men to the big screen. His take is a lot more based in reality than many would like and it seems Ratner has kept that style. My expectations for this are low but I have to admit I actually like this teaser. Some characters look wrong though and there seems to be a lot of "been there, done that" going on. But: as this is obviously the final X-Men movie in Fox's trilogy (except the Wolverine spin-off) with this cast I do think they can end it with this one. I'm not a purist in any way and I think books and comics especially can be endlessly adapted to the big screen (or other media). Who knows, maybe ten or twenty years down the line a director will step up who wants to do more X-Men movies. And then maybe we'll have a ten feet tall Juggernaut or however the hell tall he needs to be. It's like Batman. The possibilities to translate stuff like this is virtually endless and some variations will suck, and others won't. The way of the game.
Now, somewhat off-topic: I don't understand the hate for Singer's Superman Returns. Granted, that teaser was not that impressive but it was a classy look at one of the biggest films of 2006 without having to use cheap jump-cut editing and big action shots. As much as I love hearing Brando's voice, I do hope Singer finds a way to define his movie from the Donner flicks. The amount of love he has for the subject matter is akin to PJ's affection for Kong and should be respected. Hell, I thought the Batman Begins trailers were not that impressive either and I somewhat love that film.
And another thing: Frankly, I don't understand Moriarty's talkback bitterness. Not to attack Mori's sensibilities and opinions but his unsubtle "attack" on Massawyrm for pointing out some important points about Narnia and the audience that goes to see it baffled me (granted, he went on and on about it but I do understand where he's coming from - I haven't seen Narnia yet though). I for one thought he would appreciate the Superman Returns teaser since I think he's one the more grounded guys on this site and doesn't need impressive visuals to get high on a movie (by the way, where is your Goblet of Fire review?). Oh well, the summer of 2006 is shaping up to be a slow one. I'm looking forward to Pirates 2, Supes and X3 among others but I fear a year in movies that will be uneventful. Let's hope I'm wrong. -
have a bunch of different opinions. *shrug*
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...maybe not good but entertaining if it is a all balls out mutant battle royale. If not, Ratner will no doubt let us down like Tim Story did with F-4
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LOOk at all these posts! You don't see this staggering amount of talkbacks for something that is uninteresting. And there'll be hundreds more in the coming days. And if these plant posters (i.e. interns) are so obvious than call them out. I have seen quite a few names I have never seen before on this site, however. I'd like to see what Joss Whedon could do with this franchise. Oh, and BRING ON KONG!!! By the way, I respect all of you.
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If you say that, you honestly haven't seen the trailer for THE FOUNTAIN (also starring Jackman). That thing looks awesome. After watching this X3 trailer, I feel that I should have paid them money or something, because the only thing I didn't see was the end credits. It was a little too much. I hope the final trailer isn't much more revealing than this one, or I won't have to see the film at all.
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Everybody is all serious and/or in tears, but Rogue has a big grin on her face.
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My point is, everybody's history with these characters just throws their perspective on the movie out of whack. Some people will hate an otherwise good movie because it's not enough like the comic they adore. Some people will like an otherwise mediocre/shitty movie because it's "true" enough to the comic
(let me say, preemptively, that this does not apply to every soul who liked this teaser; I kinda liked it myself. But the people who are attached to Marvel at the hip know who they are). Or some people will like a movie for whatever reason. Like you said, these TalkBacks are especially tangled, and it's frustrating, because you can't even spit into the ocean without the ocean spitting back. If you didn't like the film you're a "hater" or a "naysayer" or whatever else has been co-opted by the hivemind and transformed into a four-letter word. That said, do I think Harry's going to be fair to this movie? No, probably not. -
Dec 06, 2005 4:00:10 PM CST
Nobody can crash the apple website. the links dont work because
by george newman
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Lot of obviously anti-gay people on this talkback comparing Angel to a gay porn star. How do they know? Also, I notice that the word 'naysayer' is heavily used on AICN yet I don't think I've ever heard it in the real world. That is all
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Dec 06, 2005 4:27:01 PM CST
Ribbons, once again, is the only reason to read a TalkBack anymo
by masterwhedon
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but when you think of it as a super-move, like the kind you would find in X-men:Legends, it kicks all kinds of ass. I agree that it would look better with added "wind" sfx.
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Dec 06, 2005 4:45:44 PM CST
I think Nintendo is secretly in love with the guy from "Not anot
by sayhey kid
A little too obsessed, no? The doorknob to the closet turns to the right, son.
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All I ask for is a scene with the original five and I will be a happy turd.
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HE'S A FURRY BLUE HUMANOID. Exactly what did you expect him to look like? Exactly how were you expecting him not to look ridiculous? I promise you that there's no way a Beast in a live-action movie could please you. I think they did a VERY solid job on an already ridiculous concept. On either this or the last X3 talkback somebody suggested CGI...now THAT would've been a disaster. I didn't know Lucas frequented this site.
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That alone is an advantage over that jackass Singer (He probably watched the trailer and went crying to his superman :roll: )
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Dec 06, 2005 6:10:36 PM CST
I HATE RATNER, BUT WAS SURPRISED BY THE TEASER... PLUS, X-MEN IS
by moto
I really do loath Ratner. He is the greatest overrated hack next to Paul Anderson (AVP, SOLDIER, ETC.). BUT, after seeing this trailer I am pleasantly surprised at how good it looks. Funny thing is to all you naysayers... if this very same trailer was shown and Singer was the director, you guys woud be PRAISING IT.
Beast doesn't look that great though. He just looks too menacing and that wasn't what he was in teh comics or cartoons... he was intelligent. I know that Grammar will pull it off, the intelligent part, but as of now Beast just doesn't look right. The cartoons got him perfect. Jon Favreau should have been Beast damnit. But, all of us were worried about Nightcrawler when we first saw him and he turned out perfect so...! As far as Spider-man... give me a break. SPIDER-MAN 1 and 2 are two of the most overrated blockbusters I've seen. The first one was perfect in the first 40 minutes or so... and then Green Goblin came and fucked it up. And that CGI... terrible. Spiderman 2 was subpar... but still not that engaging. The thing I like about X-MEN is that it looks like it could be the real world. The Raimi Spider-Man films are just too comicy... it doesn't translate well, especially Jameson. Way over the top. Yeah he was like that in the comics, but it just feels lame watching it. I wish Maguire never came back to do Spiderman 2 (if you remember he was almost fired from it)... Jake Gyllenhal would have been MUCH MUCH MUCH better. Those movies are just overrated. They're like little kiddie movies. At least X-Men and Batman Begins now are engaging. It's believable. I know I know... Spider-man is a comic. But you can't tell me that James Cameron's version wouldn't have been MUCH MUCH MUCH better. Better casting. Better action. Better cinematography (sorry Bill). Better theme music. Just... better. It kills me to think that Spider-Man has the best opening weekend... I sit around and WAIT for somebody to crush it! -
This is sad, but true. So true.
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Dec 06, 2005 6:27:21 PM CST
The irony to me is that this looks more comic-booky than the oth
by freakemovie
(1) Harry, your constant complaining about this even after the teaser's debut is really beginning to remind me of your parody in Entourage. The only -- only -- thing I take issue with in the teaser is all the shots of Jean Grey. Yeah, she's hot, but a lot of people don't want to know yet that she's not still dead. (2) Moto's right -- if Singer's name was attached you'd all be jerking off to this teaser. (3) Wah, wah, main characters die, get the hell over it. According to the writers, they're making this as though it's the last film of a trilogy. Plus, you guys want a WAR, right? Kill some of the f*ckers off. (4) Cyclops has been shortchanged the whole series. He was completely absent from the middle act of X2. The series can't be perfect. Oh well. The movie looks good. Oh, I just thought of another hypocrisy: you guys think Brett Ratner's a talentless hack but then assume he's going to completely destroy the movie when the screenwriters and actors clearly have more pull than he does. He's a hired gun, that's all.
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when all the baddie mutants are walking with Magneto, you can see juggs on his left, and up in front of him in the corner is a woman walking in an all deep red costume, with a dark red cape..is that supposed to be Phoenix? if so that costume sucks, or maybe it's scarlet witch??
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Actually showed some shit, unlike the Superman trailer. Lots of mutants. Fastball special. Brett Ratner made the Rush Hour movies, and those are great. Stop the hateration.
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Dec 06, 2005 7:09:09 PM CST
Unless you want to hate on DocPazuzu a.k.a FluffyUnbound a.k.a w
by jar jar 4 prez
Then go right ahead. Hate all you want.
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Then maybe you should update quicktime... after all, a new version is out...
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"Hateration," "naysayers," "if Singer did it you guys would love it." Le sigh. I like the guy who did the little :roll: like he was still on Superherohype. Stop sucking Marvel's tit or get used to dissenting opinions. Seriously.
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...that trailer looked better than both of the first two movies so you can go lick on Singer's balls True Believers! The best part was Famke's ass. Please remember to wash before you go to the theater to see this you smelly bitches...oh and figures that Ian McSwelling would set out to take all the gay mutants to San Francisco. I bet he is pumping the Pet Shop Boys cover of the Village People's "Go West" on his Ipod during the march. What have we learned? (a) this will be the best X-Men movie yet (b) if you suck the dick you lose the kingdom (c) bathe you fat fucks (d) Porn will always be better than comics (e) I would eat a mile of Famke's shit just to see where it came from.
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MAKE MINE MARVEL!!!
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If the teaser was that good, with the exception of Juggz, the next one will kick ass, teeth, nads and any other tender part of the human body. Somehow, that sour taste left by the script review is starting to wearing off.
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frame by frame and stop at the shot of beast, wolvie and storm in the blackbird...you'll look at beast neck line and it looks like he's wearing a blue furry sweater...ugh...
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no, that's jean walking with magneto... which i thought was stupid until someone said the writers basically made the brotherhood into the hellfire club... which makes some sense as to why jean joined magneto... although i am hoping for Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver to be in this magneto spinoff... i def want to see that whole history explored....
as for this trailer... i almost died after reading the script review, but this trailer has given me some hope... i know it cant be as good as X2, it may be on par with X1, but as of now its being labeled as crap until i see a new trailer, and read some set reports... i would see the movie no matter what just because its xmen and im loyal like that, so i dunno, well just have to wait til may 26 (3 days after my 18th bday... what a great gift...) and although i love superman and bryan singer, i pray to whoever's listening that by some miracle this comes out on top... id rather see superman die than the xmen die... plus im hoping that we can get an X4 after this, cause i still have faith that Joss Whedon can put his midas touch on the fourth to ressurect it from the pile of shit im expecting X3 to be... I HATE YOU FOX!!!! -
Dec 06, 2005 7:57:21 PM CST
I want to see a Wolverine/Colossus FASTBALL SPECIAL in this film
by monkey_king
Just do it already! There was a line in in X2 where Peter/Colossus tells Logan "I can help." to which Logan replies "Later..." Help him with a Fastball Special and throw our furry, claw-popping bad-ass at some Omega Red/Juggernaut goodness.
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...and I seriously think moto is a twelve year old.
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Dec 06, 2005 8:08:37 PM CST
Only 171 days, 4,082 hrs, and 244,912 minutes untill X3 opens!!!
by shermdawg
Better get in line now fucktards!!!
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Dec 06, 2005 8:09:59 PM CST
Maybe Singer will make an X movie sequal that ignores that anyth
by lutz
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I still say its bullshit. But like I said before, two laser bolts fly past Storm in the Danger Room sequence. Also the fastball special is in that sequence. And if you noticew Pete throws Wolvie to something high up. A sentinel perhaps? Aw hell, I'm starting to believe. >_<
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Dec 06, 2005 8:23:16 PM CST
Holy crap, I am starting to believe this, Wolvie's heading t
by shermdawg
If this is true, remember who on this site pointed it out!
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Dec 06, 2005 8:28:31 PM CST
Also at 1:04 into the teaser, whats that little ball of light be
by shermdawg
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Dec 06, 2005 8:31:35 PM CST
Allso you gotta love the inclusion of the "Smallville road" in t
by shermdawg
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Dec 06, 2005 8:41:23 PM CST
You know, if it wasn't for the shot at 1:17 into the teaser,
by shermdawg
I think they should whiten his eyes a bit or something. I don't know. Still, the Blue fur reminds me of Earth Girls Are Easy.
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He looks like something out of a sadomasochistic porn flick. Did someone say that already?
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Dec 06, 2005 9:10:48 PM CST
Trailer looked good, much better than Superman Returns...
by computerguy68
I never liked the first two X-Men films, looked too cheap. Kinda boring stories, and Jean's death WAS stupid...
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Although I have heard a lot of complaints about this teaser, what you and I all know is that we are going to see this movie either way.
YES, Juggernaut looked pretty bad.
Yes, Beast looked like a smurf on a bad dose of roids.
What I disliked about this teaser, and all trailers in general, is that most of the time they give too much away, in this particular case, if you pay close enough attention, they show us at least one main character that is going to die.
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Can you imagine if X3 is better than Superman Returns. Singer will look like a worthless tool!
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When I first heard some of the spoilers for this movie I was pissed off because of how it screwed with generally accepted continuity. After letting it lie for a while, it doesn't bother me so much, especially if this is the last X-man movie. It must be hard trying to come up with a plot that is both true to the comics and yet not a total retread of the stories everyone has already seen before. So they decided to go out with a bang and really mess things up, potentially kill off major characters and so on. Considering Marvel just reduced the world mutant population in the comics down to less than 200 muties, I can accept that choice. I can accept a totally divergent movie continuity - as long as it doesn't suck. Here's hoping.
Then there is the eternal question of superhero sequels: Why multiple villians? Well, Magneto is still THE villian as far as I'm concerned. Mustique is his second in command, and all the rst are henchmen. So at least he doesn't hire henchmen like Otis from the Superman movies. He hires superpowered guys to fight his battles for him, so as far as I can see having the multiple villians is the only logical way to go against a team of superheroes.
My only major complaint is the look of the Beast. I always imagined him more of a "short-haired" beast; fuzzy, not long locks. This is more of a cross beatween the Wolfman and Beast from Beauty and the Beast (and the current style of the comics. It's the large areas of just plain blue skin without the fur or hair that I didn't expect. A good performance could overcome these perceptions, but can Kelsey Grammer convince me he's a quick, acrobatic fighter like Alan Cumming did as Nightcrawler? -
...Now look sure I've kept on posting defensive posts on Ratner. I think while he isn't the most dynamic inventive filmmaker around he does create entertainment (the REAL reason we go to movies). I haven't watched a film of his that I walked away thinking what a steaming pile. That said I think X3 is a major jump for him. Visually I think it looks pretty strong. It seems more colourful than X1 & X2 but still has an edge. I love the scale of the trailer. Storm looks hot for once. Phoenix looks badass. Cyclops was done incorrectly throughout the X movies so losing this version of him is no biggy. Superman I'm still a bit concerned about...to me it could swing either way, but this looks like fun, not earth-shattering in the least but I expect to leave the cinema once again not thinking it's a steaming pile. But I was a bit disappointed in the way Beast and Juggernaut look, I have a feeling that the designs were there from Vaughn's direction though so that blame can't go on a too-late-to-change-anything-really Ratner. I have a feeling that's what the excuse will be when X3 isn't as bad as everyone makes it out to be...that all Ratner did was facilitate Vaughn's vision...watch this space heh
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i really want it to be good. it's killing me.
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Dec 06, 2005 11:21:07 PM CST
More random thoughts: multiple villains, character deaths, Hellf
by oisin5199
The multiple villains theory: I'd argue that the problem with multiple villains is when they take center stage. Batman Returns was really a movie about Penguin and Catwoman, while the hero remained a cipher. In Batman Begins, there were also several villains, but the focus remained squarely where it belonged. On Batman and Bruce Wayne. As far as character deaths: again, as long as it serves the story and not a convenient way to reduce an actor's screen time (Marsden) or just a cheap dramatic twist (Xavier) I'm fine with it. How many times have all these characters died and come back to life in the comics? Too many to count. Finally, I'm hoping this Hellfire Club rumor is wrong. I can see the writers taking the story of Jean's seduction into the Club as the basis for her joining the Brotherhood. But not that Magneto's group has become the Hellfire Club. First, Mags would never call his group a 'Club.' Certainly not as intimidating and racially charged as The Brotherhood. Secondly, the Hellfire Club was always about intrigue and corporate interests, something much more worthy of its own story. I liked the Ultimate Hellfire Club when it turns out they've been secretly funding Xavier's school. Anyway, amongst all the bitching about looks, I'm glad they had Famke finally go to Jean's classic long hair look. I hope we see a fully floating and enflamed Phoenix reaping destruction even on a small scale (perhaps just a city instead of a solar system). And even if Halle got down on her knees and sucked off Wolverine, most people here would still hate her. But like Rummy said, we go to (mutant) war with the army (cast) we have, not the one we wish we had (Gina Torres as Storm). The Halle bashing has gotten old, my friends. Let's move on.
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Does anyone record tonights Real World on a digital tivo thingamajig? I still use that relic from the 80's known as a vcr, maybe you've heard of it. Anyways, Melinda takes a piss on the street, and I paused it, and, even though its really fuzzy, and the lightings bad, I swear I saw her cooch. I'm sure you can really tell with tivo. By the way, she's HOT!!! Hot as Famke? Hell fuck no! I wonder how she handled the fantasies of her students, her being a mind reader and all. Lord knows I wouldn't be able to stop fantasizing about hitting that while in class.
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I just figured it out. all that stuuf with them running through the debris and the lasers and Logan smoking a cigar in front of an explosion--- it's the friggin danger room. it makes sense now. BTW, can anyone tell me who that androgynous fishnet-shirt wearing figure is supposed to be? I know Callisto is in this one, so it looks like that crowd of ne'er-do-wells must be the morlocks. any theories?
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Dec 07, 2005 12:19:21 AM CST
Trailer looks pretty blah to me. More to gripe about than rave a
by a goonie
I'm certainly not a Ratner hater (I've actually enjoyed most of his movies), but I was never a fan of the thought of him directing an X-film. The guy's got talent. He can deliver decent entertainment, but he's a pretty safe director. He has a real paint-by-numbers approach that works well enough in a Rush Hour flick, but here... I'm not convinced. The guy doesn't have a signature style and he doesn't seem to push himself to interesting heights; he finds a familiar place and sticks with it. I'm just afraid he's too generic a director to tackle something like X-Men. He just seems like an uninspired choice for the director's chair, if you ask me. It seems like he was essentially picked because he's delivered a few box office hits and he's been around the block enough times that he could be trusted to stay focused and get the picture done on time. That would be all fine and dandy for a lesser comic book movie project, but this isn't just X-Men, it's the proposed final chapter in a trilogy! After the ass-kicking-ness of the first two X-flicks, I really don't want this series to fall flat on its face. As for the trailer, it looks okay, but it doesn't do much for me. Watching Kitty walk (in costume) alongside the other X-Men at the beginning of the teaser excites me in all sorts of tingly ways, but now that I'm hearing that she is going to be left mainly in the background with most of the other characters, well, I'm kinda choked. Still, little Ellen Page looks great as Kitty and, as long as I see her do something more than what she did in the first two films, I will be ecstatic for at least that moment of the film. Other than that, it's fun to think that we could have an all-out brawl between the X-Men and Magneto's band of baddies, but still, Magneto's henchmen look like rejects from a sci-fi porn flick. None of them look remotely interesting or exciting. As generic as generic gets. And Juggernaut... OH GOOD FUCKING GOD. What the hell is that shit? I know that it was silly of me to expect to see the Juggernaut we all know and love up there on the big screen next summer, but not in my wildest dreams (nightmares?) did I envision something as disgustingly retarded as Vinnie Jones decked out like a complete knob. The helmet is awful, the abs are hilariously fake-looking... ugh. The whole thing stinks. Someone above complained that Juggernaut got the same treatment that Bane did in Batman & Robin. I totally agree. This looks to be another cool comic book character wasted on screen. God, seriously, I fucking hate that look. Angel looks fine, but really, it's what we were all expecting. It's a white dude with wings. Nowadays, with special effects the way they are, as long as you don't hire a group of complete fools to handle the effects, it should look okay and it does. As for the Beast, well, the verdict's still sorta out for me. I don't really dig the look, but at the same time, I can't say I fully hate it. Maybe once I hear his voice, I'll be more sold. Or less sold. We'll see. Overall, the movie doesn't look like total junk, but I'm not exactly impressed either.
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Why the hate? Oh no, you're not a Bruce Campbell fan are you? Oh yeah, you ARE a Bruce Campbell fan... I can smell you guys a mile away.
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Dec 07, 2005 1:30:57 AM CST
This will be great. When I go to movies, I want to have FUN. Its
by tophat
*obediently waits for his food pellet*
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Noone will care about a single one. Kinda like what happened to street fighter.
On another note , is it me or does the wire work in this movie look kinda floaty? I mean if wolverine is being thrown, or jumping toward someone, speed it up a bit, dont have him floating around looking like a damn warner brothers cartoon that smells something delicious and follows it's scent in the air.
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You also get points for not getting all offended and sensitive to the fact that I found your Spider-Man rant way off the mark. Perhaps you've reached puberty after all...even though your Spider-Man opinion was ass. Groovy.
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Say what you will about Blade:Trinity, but the premise presented in 1998, with Norrington's film, kicked my ass, blew my socks off, and left me spent. The original Blade paved the way for the other comic movies, and suffered from TOO MUCH Del Toro in Blade 2, and TOO MUCH Goyer trying to cram everything in one film for Blade:Trinity. Knock on Snipes all you want, but the first film , from the blood rave, to the fucking awesome soundtrack, to the bullet-time effects (which pre-empted "The Matrix", thank you very much), set new standards in the genre. Watch it again, and you will see what I am saying.
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THAT'S why Street Fighter sucked...
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No arguments here. My only big gripe with 'Blade' was that Whistler really did seem like a caricature of a "badass" a lot of the time, with his eat nails for breakfast, "fucking-fuck-fuckity-fuck, diaperhead" dialogue. But I liked him overall, and was impressed by the movie. I still prefer it to 'Blade II' in a lot of ways.
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...whaddya want? Wolverine to wear some faggy yellow costume with a mask that makes him look like he's going to some gay Halloween party? The simple black outfits are simple, functional and give the characters a sense of unity. And I quite frankly like the Lois Lane having a kid idea; you need something, a device, a mcguffin, to show that Lois has moved on so why not a kid? It gives an extra dimension to what would nominally just be a rehash of what we've seen before in tv and film...a controversial development? Absolutely but it'll help the whole story no end.
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I liked Blade 2, I think that I didn't enjoy it so much because I was so used to Norrington's style after multiple viewings, it became the standard by which I judged the other two. Not wise, considering how different each of the three directors are. I just wished we could have seen more of the "Blade in Russia" stuff we glimpsed at the end of the original. Ron Pearlman's character in Blade 2 was great. Parker Posey and HHH were good in Blade Trinity, but it went a little campy. Nothing beats Hannibal King's lines though, especially "Why don't you go take a sugar frosted fuck off the end of my cock"!!!!!
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Hey, Nintendo, wanna turn the Tourette's down a notch or two? I couldn't tell if you had something valuable to say between all the cursing. ANYWAY, I thought the teaser was pretty damn sweet; made me wanna see it, and since that's the point of the teaser, it did its job. By the way, enough with the Superman Returns teaser hate, okay? What, did you want the whole fracking movie spelled out for you? It's called a TEASER for a reason, morons, so get over yourselves. And, another thing, enough with the Juggernaut complaints. If you're going to base the portrayal of a character solely on whether he LOOKS like the Juggernaut of the comics, than you suffer from a criminally narrow mind.
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Dec 07, 2005 8:20:06 AM CST
Only 171 days, 4,070 hrs, and 244,180 minutes untill X3 opens!!!
by shermdawg
Better get in line now fucktrds!!!
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What a bunch of simpering house plants!!Guys....give the movie a chance to come out. This is exactly why Tarantino once said he'd never do a comic book movie...
Ratner, while he's no Chris Nolan still has one very important thing going for him, and that's that he's a comic-book fan. Which to me means that he's not going to piss all over the material.....I suppose you all would've been happier if Joel Schumacher got the job? Exactly. And I'm sorry but this trailer kicked so much more ass than the Superman Returns teaser. I think Beast looks how he'd look in real life, I'm particularly anxious to see how he moves, because as we all know, besides being a genius the dude can lay some serious smack down with his agility. Now, of all the villains in the Marvel Universe, aside from Dr.Doom, Magneto, Scorpion and the Sandman, I've always loved the Juggernaut. How can you not love that guy....he's a f*ckin' monster. But in this realm, it's understandable that they'd scale him down a notch, much the way they did on the X-Men Evolution series on TV....but he was still unstoppable, which is why he's called the Juggernaut. I think Vinnie Jones, definitely has what it takes to convey that anger and resentment Juggy has towards Xavier....that is if they even decide to show us that much. But in going with a real actor, it makes it come across as real and believable as opposed to some CGI-Water Ballon like the Hulk.
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Come on people, this is just the first TEASER for the movie. I can't believe all the bitterness in here about it. At least save the bitching until the first real TRAILER comes out.
I can't believe some of the irrelevent complaints I'm reading in here. If you're that put out over Storms hair then just consider the movie a loss, don't go see it and let the rest of us enjoy it for what it is.
Surely you didn't expect every aspect of the comic book to work on the big screen? How formidable would Magneto have been in a bright purple costume? You get the point.
It's all about suspension of disbelief. You have to go into the movie with total belief in what you're seeing. If you do this the movie will rock.
Afterall, we're not expecting oscar winning performances,etc.
Sure, there are disappointments. I would have killed to see some version of the Phoenix costume. But will that stop me from enjoying the movie, I think not.
Some of the people in this forum literally to not WANT to like this movie and they're nitpicking a teaser trailer to death to convince themselves it's a horrible movie before they've even seen it. In what universe does that make any sense whatsoever?
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Dec 07, 2005 9:32:39 AM CST
in retrospect SUPERMAN RETURNS - which ran with HARRY POTTER 4 t
by spacesheik
a effective teaser is one where the "S" is shown at the end where it builds up to the superhero - imagine a superman teaser featuring a disaster on a bridge or smiliar location and people are scrambling and explosions all aroudn and suddenly you see a man in a suit walk towards a camera and tears open his shirt and you see the S logo - that would have had harry potter audiences excited - as it stands now the trailers only redeeming feature was marlon brando and the music
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having watched it again,and again,it looks really cool.i love the music,from the funky opening rhytms to the chilling end...i agree beast should have had more of a short fur covering all of his face.juggernaurt's body still looks abit odd,have to see it moving to really tell.but you can't beat vinnie jones for a mean looking face.storm looks much better,more at ease with the role.famke is even more beautiful than she used to be.rogue is filling out in the right places.kitty looks really cute.
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surely everyones seen her in that xmen 2 promo with her ass to the camera?
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Dec 07, 2005 9:58:31 AM CST
"Ribbons, once again, is the only reason to read a TalkBack anym
by mrboinfoint
Seriously? He comes in to every TB and tries to deflate and pacify with faulty logic and the amazing ability to see every side of the issue simultaneously. He's like a woman without the entertaining bits. No, I take that back. He almost surely has a mangina.
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Cameron is the single most Geek-Overrated director in the history of Geek-Overrating. There's a reason he hasn't directed a movie since that fucking soap opera piece of shit Titanic: he had exactly one good shlocky B-Movie horror flick in him (Terminator) and one good macho steroid sci-fi shoot 'em up (Aliens) and everything else has been bloated, badly written dreck full of curiously masculine female leads. Cameron's Spider-Man would have sucked. Period. Full stop.
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i mean yeah look at him on the right side in the back towards the end,
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Dec 07, 2005 10:12:11 AM CST
The X-Men 3 trailer KICKED THE SHIT out of the Superman Returns
by god-man
It showed a lot for a first trailer, and I am officially excited for X-Men 3. I still think that Superman Returns will be a much better movie, but I officially take back every bad thing I said about X-Men 3 and will reserve judgement until I see it. Except this. X-Men 3 looks fucking awesome.
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If you doubt that theres one in the movie, check my post above. I break it down fer ya.
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Dec 07, 2005 10:54:05 AM CST
OMFG, I HOPE THIS IS A FAKE!!! What may or may not be the missin
by shermdawg
movienewstalk-club.1up.com
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Dec 07, 2005 11:01:45 AM CST
Ok, heres the the link to the questionable Colossus shot. Like I
by shermdawg
http://clubs.1up.com/do/club?Dispatch=Display&clubid=70004
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I'm not trying to pacify so much as to not completely spaz out on the people who piss me off. I think it's funny that you consider the logic I'm using "faulty" but you never elaborate, or say anything for that matter, until you have the opportunity to degrade me personally. But since I'm so accustomed to making "faulty" leaps in logic, I'll let you explain yourself. Or use a smarmy insult. Whichever works best.
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Just... my God, people, are your damn lives so comfortable that THIS is what gets your panties in a bunch? That pic looked quite alright to me... there was nothing there to legitimately complain about. Crap, you people must give your husbands ulcers with all your bellyachin'.
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If so, I rest my case.
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Dec 07, 2005 11:57:45 AM CST
Well, the good thing about Colossus is that he's cgi, so if
by shermdawg
Because from the looks of it he ain't lookin' so hot.
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no - street fighter sucked cause it was street fighter... and it sucked... what a miserable way for raul julia to go out... and they tried to make a big action movie out of a fighting game... oh well - at least x3 already looks better than F4... still - we'll wait and see... if teasers to big geek films have taught us anything in the last few years - it's that they don't teach us anything... could be even greater... could be even suckier... until the end credits roll... who the fuck knows... oh well... take care... wreak it well... havoc out...
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Dec 07, 2005 12:27:32 PM CST
MrBoinfoint went to the moviemack school of TalkBacking.
by masterwhedon
Serisouly, dude, don't be hating on my man-love for Ribbons.
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But what's your point? Are you upset at me because I'm not boiling mad about the apparent sucking that Colossus will do on-screen based on this one close-up still image? Savior on a Saltine! My point is that YOU ARE ALL A BUNCH OF CRYBABY GEEKS THAT WILL PRE-EMPTIVELY HATE ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING BASED ON THE TINIEST INSIGNIFICANT DETAIL! Of course I also felt that X3 was doomed when Singer jumped ship but then that doesn't count, so nyah!
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it looks like a close shave.
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Dec 07, 2005 1:19:52 PM CST
Yes, yes my children! Raise those voices!! If we do not make exc
by tophat
Praise be.
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Well I can see by that (teaser/trailer) that this movie will definitely (suck/rule). The director should be (anally raped by space monsters/given head by hot babes). The script I (read/heard about/wrote myself) wiil make the movie (kick ass/blow chunks). They shouldn't have sacrificed (plot/special effects) for (special effects/plot) and the acting is (pathetic/inspiring). I (will/will not) see this movie more thsn twice.(Taken from the offical movie geek handbook). Seriously, I hope this movie is good. I liked 2 more than 1, and am looking forward to 3. I'll reserve judgment till I see the other 118 minutes though.
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Jim Carrey as Wolverine Ventura. Weird thought...too much scotch for breakfast. ANYWAY, I liked what I saw. Didn't look radically different from X1 or X2. I'll hit a matinee and see for myself BECAUSE trailers mean little. In the end, you really need to see the whole thing. How many WB suits (and apparently the viewing public) thought "The Iron Giant" was just a cartoon?
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Looked good to me. I can't imagine them including Sentinels in this movie unless it's in the Danger Room (which isn't what we want for a variety of reasons).
And I am a huge Blade fan. Blade 2 was also fun but not as clever as lade 1. Blade 3 made me want to rip my eyes out. I knew it was going to suck (Netflix special-I wouldn't pay money for that crap) because Goyer was directing and the advanced word of him essentially phasing out Blade and turning it into a Buffy clone. Blade opened the door to the recent comic movie revival and is suprisingly the only decent thing Norrington has done (except for Death Machine). -
Here are just some random comments I have about the looks of the already infamous Beast and Juggs. 1. Beast looks good. What did you all expect? If they had completely covered Grammers face in fur it would have been distracting and you would not have been able to see his facial expressions adequately enough. 2. I'll save my opinion for Juggs until I see more. But my opinion has always been not to even include him. If you can't do it right, then don't do it at all. Overall, all the characters look really good from what I see here http://clubs.1up.com/do/club?Dispatch=Display&clubid=70004, even shiny boy.
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Think what you want about Cameron. What has Raimi done? I'm not a Raimi hater, but let's compare. Let's see, he DID direct one of my favorite films, A SIMPLE PLAN. Okay. One point for him. What else? Hmmm... a low budget horror film... doesn't count. EVIL DEAD is fun, but that's about it, it's fun. Tongue in cheek shit. FOR LOVE OF THE GAME... NO. THE GIFT... not so much. THE QUICK AND THE DEAD? Fun, but not so much. DARKMAN? More of a novelty item.
Cameron? TERMINATOR... one point. TERMINATOR TWO... one point. ALIENS... one point. THE ABYSS... I loved it, let's say half a point. TRUE LIES... half a point. TITANIC... two points. You may not like it, but there's about $2 Billion worth of people that did. That film was a throwback to the golden age of Hollywood, mixed in with true Cameronisms (the present day storyline).
BUT, like I said, I'm no Raimi hater. I just think he's a bit overrated. Spider-Man... overrated. Spider-man 2... better, but still overrated. I liked the story angle of giving up his Spider-Man ways when I first saw it in Superman 2. But hey, we all have our likes and dislikes. You like it, fine. I like some shitty movies too. To each his own. Lastly, Michael Biehn vs. Bruce Campbell... Biehn all the way. He can ACT. He may not suck the meat of fanboys during their little conventions like Campbell does, but he can act.
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wow. colossus is--really shiny.
i think that for whatever reason, that when you start to put the guys who aren't just 'in costume' into a comic book movie that it starts looking a little bit silly. i don't know. for some reason nightcrawler worked for me, but so far, none of these character designs are really doing it.
i can see now why they stuck to the more 'human' mutants in terms of appearance in the first film, and i'm feeling like they really nailed it hard with kurt in the second. maybe it was just dumb luck?
i can't help it, but i feel like the presentation of these characters does edge into FFland to a certain degree.
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..that most of the people on this site, those that expect it to fail and the ones who think it will succeed, are fans of the source material.
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Yeah, I dunno about that image. I too saw it over at superherohype a little while ago and it's got me a bit worried. A bunch of the geeks in the thread discussing the pic have toyed with the image so that the eyes are all whited out, stuff like that, and it does look decent enough. Again, just like with Beast, I can't say that I HATE this image, but I can't say I'm exactly wanting to hump my monitor when I look at it either. There's a cheapness to the shot, a real "hey, I just whipped this up in Photoshop" look to the thing. That said, seeing the whole thing moving and seeing it six months from now as a fully finished effect could prove us doubters wrong. But I must say, someone over at the superherohype boards posted a couple stills of Colossus from X2 and I was reminded how much cooler he looked in that brief cameo than he does in this shot. Time will tell what awaits our favourite metal-clad hero...
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It does look kinda cartoony, but i will have to give the filmmakers the benefit of the doubt that they can pull him off. The movie is six months away and they will have time to sharpen all the effects up. Colossus is my favorite x-man. He exudes badass so hopefully theyll work on him some more. But i liked the teaser. Just seems more fun than the other two movies; more epic. I dunno, im gonna hafta wait. Juggs looks just alright. Since he's my favorite baddie, its gonna rock to see him and the russian metal man duke it out. I am expecting a scene like that.
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I can take a lot of shit, but not being compared to moviemack. This gives me pause to think. I have seen the error of my ways. From now on I will strive to only provoke intelligent debate. Moto's still an idiot. Nothing Cameron has done since Aliens has given any indication that his Spider-Man would be anything than a loud, confusing, misogynist mess. And while Raimi had his roots in splatter films, I'd consider Darkman and a Simple Plan to be ample evidence that he'd do a good job on both the actoiny and the drama-y (is that a word?) aspects of Spider-Man. But more than that, all I need to look to is the damn films themselves. 'Cuz he got the job, and did a good one. Perfect? Nah. Power Rangers Gobby sucked. Doc Ock needed one more major set piece and a better dastardly villain plan. The Russian anorexic scenes were a waste of time. But everything else was great. And I just don't have any faith that Cameron would ever be able to give us anything like that. sheesh... I can't believe I was compared to moviemack. I need to take a fucking shower.
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was Xmen or Xmen2 any less of a success because of the small role given to Halle Berry? In the end could the films have been any better had they donated more time to Storm? No and No. So when did Halle or the producers come to the realisation that what this film needs is for her to be in every fking scene?
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right up the ass, with this teaser...
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It seems like some people like to be poked in the pooper. How unfortunate.
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And I like it. Shiny is good. I don't think I'd like the eyes whited out, like someone mentioned. It would be harder to emote like that.
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...is pretty much symbolic for blind Rattner-bashing, unless you feel that Singer adequately provided depth and subtext to the likes of Toad, Sabretooth, and Lady Deathstrike. I'll take Beast over Sabretooth any day (though the bright blue sticks out a bit against the rest of the color pallate). Here's to hoping it's Jean's funeral in the trailer, and that Cyclops has a pulse at the end of the flick.
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Dec 07, 2005 6:13:55 PM CST
MrBoinfoint: "From now on I will strive to only provoke intellig
by masterwhedon
If this is true, I heretofore withdraw the moviemack comment. If it is true, dear sir, you will find yourself very welcome in the new, umm, "zone" of this site that is very soon to be unveiled... Keep your eyes peeled.
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N-no.. y-you're an idiot...
(enter sarcasm as to why you feel the need to call people idiots when you're just discussing shit). But more power to you. I just think so many fanboys here jump on the current trend bandwagon to hate James Cameron. So TITANIC wasn't a fanboy's type of movie. Before Titanic's release everyone here would have salavated over hearing about a new Cameron project. If he decided to sign onto Terminator 4 you guys would have a collective boner. Or maybe you just don't like the guy. Shit, who cares right? Better things to talk about I guess. -
I liked the trailer well enough.. it seemed a lot better than the trailers we saw for the first movie at this stage in the game. Remember Wolvie swinging around a spike on the Statue of Liberty?
I did not previously know that the X-Mansion's underground levels had doors made of styrofoam, however.
Now on to business. I'm still pissed at the advertised waste of my favorite character in this film, though I'm perfectly fine with the second reputed death. I agree with MasterWhedon, the X-folk could use that kind of shaking up quite nicely. But character A doesn't deserve what they're supposed to be doing to him, and I hate the scenes in the trailer that allude to it.
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Dec 07, 2005 7:22:51 PM CST
Will one of the whiners please explain rationally what is wrong
by oisin5199
Colossus is made of metal. The picture is a guy who's made of metal, one who we've already seen in X2. So what's off? About Colossus as badass. Yes, he's the team's heavy hitter (literally). What makes him interesting though is that he has the soul of an artist, and he's still a farmboy at heart. Too bad they removed the whole Russian angle from the movies. Maybe that was seen as too 'Cold War.' People are also complaining about Beast losing the hair on his face. I'm wondering if these are people with no memory of X-Men beyond a few years ago when his 'secondary mutation' made him catlike. What we have is the classic look. The only thing I can see being a problem is his lack of spectacles and the blow wave hairstyle. In the comics, though, his hairstyle was pretty similar to Wolverine's so maybe they needed to differentiate.
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Now how in the fucking hell would that hurt the god damned story if he had a mutha fuckin russian accent? Jesus fuckin Christ!!! I'm still counting the days untill it comes out though. :)
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Ok, I'll just bitch a bit, but in the long run it doesn't really matter. As long as there's a mention of him being from Russia or something.
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"I think Beast looks how he'd look in real life" Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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"I think Beast looks how he'd look in real life" Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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and I don't dislike Ratner (I actually thought Red Dragon was pretty good). I agree with the comment that said it needed more contrast, filters, etc.
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he wants to do a tag team with tony danza and scott baio. that is all.
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I noticed that there are three roses on the ground in the funeral scene.
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i watched the trailer eighty-four tiems in the past three days, i've skimmed through this and a few other threads on other websites, and after seeing the teaser, reading the script spoiler (for the 12th time), and reading all these complaints, i think my biggest problem is still the fact that cyclops is missing. he had one "touching" scene with the prof, in X1, along with a few "wolverine, stop messin wit my girl" lines, and then he got kidnapped by stryker for most of X2, only to show up at the end long enough to grunt a little and then have an emotional breakdown when jean dies. i know he's a dickhead. but come on, he's cyclops. we geeks love that dickhead. and to be honest, they never gave the character a chance.
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U MOTHERFUCKERS R STANDING IN FRONT OF A COMPUTER FOR TOO LONG. IT MAY HAVE HAD A EFFECT ON U RE WUSSY BRAINS.. THIS IS A KICK ASS TEASER.. I M THE LAST PERSON TO BELEIVE THAT RATNER COULD PULL IT OFF. BUT, WHEN U SEE THIS TEASER U HAVE GOT TO GIVE IT TO THE GUY. ITS FUCKING SPECTACULAR... IM REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS ONE. I HOPE U WUSSIES WILL BE BLOWN AWAY BY THE FILM AND JACK OFF TO JEAN GREYS PHEONIX.. FUCKING NERDS!!!!!!
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...but *real* X-men fanboys would rather play russian roulette with a fully loaded Beretta than live in a world where Juggernaut isn't portrayed in an X-men live action film exactly like he is in the comics.
Please?
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Dec 08, 2005 12:11:37 AM CST
i've heard juggy looks better hi-def then the standard trail
by blackthought
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I liked Singer's X-Men movies. But I always thought they were lacking something, and when I saw the movie, "The Incredibles" I knew what it was -- that sense of "team." When the family is fighting together at the end, I thought, "man this is what the X-Men need to do, have them all fight together like in the classic comic book stories." But in Singer's versions they usually split up and fought separately, it was the Wolverine show with "all the rest." The other members of the team were reduced to also rans, like "the Profesor and Maryann." Though I'm not about to call Ratner an auteur he has shown me he can take a flimsy script and make an entertaining movie (or at least, Chris Tucker and Jackie Chan showed me that). Based on what I've seen in the teaser, it looks like there will be scenes of them fighting together as a team, and that's cool. The fastball special at the end knocked me out. I hope it's good. I'm rooting for it.
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But this trailer is pretty damn cool.Wolvies hair is fucking odd though,and sadly it looks like they're going with the leaked script.I thought Avi Arad said the leaked piece of shit was a veruy early draft?Tosser.Killing Scott is silly and making Halle Berry more central is a genuinely moronic thing to do seeing as she's shit in the Xmen films and Singers worst mistake.Quite how Dark Phoenix fits is still questionable.Presumably she dies in torment at killing Scott and saves the world in self immolation leaving Logan to wander the world alone broken hearted.Betcha the last scene is Wolvie walking off into the distance.Betcha.Still,looks okay.
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...don't get me wrong - I like Hugh and The Fountain is going to be awesome but would it be wrong to actually follow a few more X-Men this time around? Get someone else to drive the story? I was hoping X3 was finally going to give Cyclops something worthwhile - something I suspect Singer would have done, having effectively shafted him in X2 but again it seems like it's another Wolverine film - with added Halle - and still Wolverine gets a spin off, even though he's had 3 films dedicated to him as it is? Yes, he's the most bankable character, but I always kinda thought X-men should be at heart an ensemble piece...
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hes a worthless talentless cnut
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so this was the trailer to wolverine 3...got it.
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Apart from the Oscar, which means shit as far as I'm concerned when it comes to BO, exsctly what film has Berry done to suggest she is the Box Office draw. She was fine as a small player in the X-Men.
Now, I'm not saying Storm isn't an important character, just when Berry is playing her. She comes off as a wimp in the role, as if Storm is constantly suffering from her claustrophobia. -
Is that the actor playing him, though decent enough, doesn't have the screen presence of Wolverine. I think considering how old they cast Jean Grey and Wolverine, Scott Summers comes off as miniscule. Also, he's a little on the short side. I always thought Michael Bein of "Terminator" fame would've made a great Cyclops. Unfortunately, he was a bit too old for the part.
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Dec 08, 2005 9:00:10 AM CST
Sentinels will only appear if it's a Danger Room sequence
by steve rogers
They will stick them in there as they can get away with the "unreality" of it in the Danger Room/Holodeck/Take Your Pick. Which, while it will be GREAT so see them, will effectively rule them out of appearing seriously in any future flicks. But then, if X3 is the last one, then at least we got to see them onscreen while the going was good. And if they kill Cyclops and he stays lame and dead - BAD. If they bring him - and Prof X - back at the end in some cool way that blows the audience's socks off, or it's a misdirection - COOL. However i do still think that, screentime wise, Cyclops will get the shaft.
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I never understood why people freak about the x-men movies- the second was slightly enjoyable- but still wasn't a "good" movie. Too many characters and the movies were practically bloodless. And although I've been dubious about Robert Rodriguez's filming capabilities -after seeing Sin City I'm convinced that HE could turn in a palatable X-Men. Singer's are just shit. The guy made one good movie- he ruined Apt Pupil- And I'm sorry- that ain't Wolverine I'm looking at- it's a watered down pseudo Wolverine for kids. You're all going bonkers over a kid's movie. I saw one poster rambling something absurd like "oh man this movie drips "badass"" lol. You have Rodriguez do this shit with some cast changes- like Iman as storm and Mickey Rourke as Wolverine- (keep Ian McKellan- the best part of Singer's X-Men movies) make it an NC-17 movie with hyper gore and attitude and comic book humor- then maybe it will drip "badass" or whatever this tart said. Til then I'm just yawn-talking through Singer's shit-fests.
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flat out sucks. How are you going to make a Hannibal Lector movie with that cast and not even make it memorable? By sucking wild ass at directing- that's how.
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Say what you want about Halle, in the absence of Jean and Cyclops, she is the logical choice to lead the team. She has seniority, and in the comics this is exactly what happened. While Scott was freaking out over Jean, Storm became the new team leader. With that Danger Room sequence, it looks like they're also using the 'Logan as reluctant mentor to the kids' angle, which they also touched upon last time. Also like the comic (especially with Kitty Pryde and Jubilee, who looks like she'll be getting the shaft again. Maybe that's her in Xavier's office. A 3rd actress?) From the first film, I think there was a nice rapport between Storm and Wolvie ('are you sure you're on the right side') and I think they have a quiet respect for each other - so they could work together well. But I hope they don't go further. Wolvie needs to pine for Jean! And in X2, I don't recall Colossus' 'I can help you' line being in a Russian accent. You do remember his scene in X2, don't you?
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"Eh. I thought Jean was supposed to be powerful now or something." He wasn't too impressed.
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Sadly, your friend's opinion must've been worth posting over yours.
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What we don't see in the teaser is Jean killing Scott, or Charles. (Who was supposed to off Mags?) And you gotta believe, the movie will end with her gonna apeshit crazy, causing whats left of the X-men, Brotherhood, Morlocks, and Military to team up against her. At least, that's what I'm hoping for.
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Yeah, I realize that. I was just trying to give the "non X-fan, casual movie goer's" opinion. And Sayhey, I've posted my opinions all through this talkback, but good job just reading the last post and trying to be a smartass. Anyone else happy to see Bill Duke in there?
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Dec 09, 2005 4:21:28 AM CST
I'm happy that i work in a movie theater so that i wont have
by supermonkey321
...cuz the second they kill Cyclops, i am getting up and walking out and i will never ever see the rest of the movie after that point! NEVER! i will avoid it on DVD and on TV... i can understand killing Prof X cuz, as mentioned, it could do a lot for the plot, but Cyclops needed to be handled better NOT KILLED OFF!! Phoenix Saga (or a shitty attempt at it) without Cyclops? That's freakin STUPID!!!.... ok, i am done ranting... FUCK FOX!!!... ok, now i'm done!
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I used to like Wolverine as much as everyone else, but with the oversaturation of the character in both the comics and the movies, i just cant take it anymore! I HATE Wolverine now, i really do! I mean really, the first two movies were all about Wolverine AND he is getting his own movie AND now the third one seems to be more of the same... i'm disappointed with the entire franchise as a whole. the first two arent bad, especially the second one, but they dont come close to doing justice to one of the best comic series of all time, and this third one seems like it is just gonna totally kill it... and maybe that's best.
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i always thought this phoenix saga was all about scott and jean...but if you kill off scott, it's about what then? dumb
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I'm not sure that anyone here knows 100% that Cyclops bites it. I'm thinking that there may be some Spock-like shit going on where everyone thinks Cyclops is dead, but they leave a window showing that he may in fact be aline. IS it confirmed that Cyclops dies??? If not, why the fuck are we all bitching about it? Wait for the damn movie to come out.
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Dec 09, 2005 7:51:01 PM CST
Yeah, for all we know everyone dies, the Wolverine spinoff ain&#
by shermdawg
I doubt it though. Fox doesn't have the balls.
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Dec 10, 2005 1:29:05 PM CST
Why does it seem that I always end up killing the talkback?
by shermdawg
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I don't know if anyone say it, but Jean is with the brotherhood at the end of the trailer...look...she is front right.
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Dec 12, 2005 10:34:12 AM CST
Um, dude, we've studied each and every frame of that teaser.
by shermdawg
I mean c'mon, how in the hell can anyone overlook Famke Jansenn?
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