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I didn't know the Smurf version of me (Harry) was in X3?!?!?!
Hey folks, Harry here... As we all know, later today on Apple's Trailer site we'll be getting Quicktime goodness of X3. Or at least we hope it's goodness. The sites that saw the trailer with Wolverine in some screening room thingamagig, they liked it quite a bit. I hope we love it too, but for now - we're left with the impression from USATODAY's X3 Preview Site - and the first photo there is of THE BEAST as played by Kelsey Grammer... and he looks like a vampiric Smurf version of me on a diet. Maybe it's just a bad photo and a really bad leather coat. Maybe. I know I'm not the biggest supporter of Brett Ratner on this project - but I'd love nothing more than for me to dine on crow around the time I see this sucker. I'm sure all the wings stuff will look better in motion, especially when Warren is flying, but as a still I prefer Pygar from BARBARELLA. Of course, I love that film. So - what do you guys and gals think of our first real peekaboo at Ratner's X3?
BTW - It looks like FOX has registered XMEN3TheLastStand.com - which seems a significant indicator that it may be titled: X3: THE LAST STAND... or even X-MEN 3: THE LAST STAND.
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weird
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pretty close to content
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angel looks bad ass no? Especially when the wings are wrapped. JUST like the comic
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Not too bad though. Angel looks okay.
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decent casting choice... sort of... hope it's a bad picture... looks really silly. Angel does look pretty sweet though. Peace.
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really just kind of looks like a blue version of Wolverine. I still think Grammar is a great choice for the role though, chalk it up to a bad photo (and the odd choice to clothe him, well not odd, probably cheaper to give him a leather jacket than a full furry body suit I guess).
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Saw him on that show, no idea the guy had muscles on him.
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I think it will be a decent movie. i dont think ratner will screw all of us over completely. it might be as good as x-1. mabye.
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At least we get a Wolvie spin-off movie. I hope they at least have a good coclusive ending to X-Men 3. (No big cliffhanger)
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That's the only way to debut how Beast looks...not this crappy pose.
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Beast's arms are too short. He needs more ape like arms. Big powerful fuck you up proper arms. Gram may be a crazy slice a guys fingers off for being a prick in a Mcbeth production kind of guy, but he ain't got the beast arms. That's what really looks bad. Peace.
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I know you have seen King Kong! Would you mind posting your review in the next couple of days. Thanks!
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...the blue guy in the first picture or the smiling bearded guy in the second?
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Me really, really likey!!!
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Dec 05, 2005 1:15:30 AM CST
Re: Beast should be hanging upside down with reading glasses
by neosamurai85
Totally agree. Peace.
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god i am so excited for this movie
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Perhaps my favourite X-Men character. Glad to see he's in it.
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or does it look like Beast has blue felt velcroed to his hand? I'll just pretend that wasn't my first impression, because I really really can't bear the thought of them messing up this pretty damn respectable thing they had going :-\
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He'd rather be a furry blue well muscled animal-man than a furry orange morbidly obese man-child.
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HE's gonna get YOU!! ROWWWWW!!!
HE looks like he belongs on broadway. Yeah ok he has all the beast fundamentals down, but I was expecting something a little more, I dunno, refined. The beast was a doctor, he always did his hair, and wore suits, and had glasses. -
First they cast based solely on voice. Next they comb through Rick Baker's trash can and glue the shag from a 78 custom van to his face. Then they style his hair ala Sabertooth/Shaun Cassidy and put him in Wolverine's jacket. Sux. Hank McCoy deserves better.
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that's who beast reminds me of in that pic... Wow... That's TERRIBLE. BOO!!!
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Look, Nightcrawler is covered in blue fur, Mystique didn't have scales, and Wolverine is barely 5 feet tall. So what if Beast doesn't look exactly like you pictured in your overblown imaginations. You'll get over it. You obvioulsy didn't mind the discrepancies in the first two films or you wouldn't be here sweating the third. Go see the movie or don't. If movies were successful based on fanboy attendance alone Serenity would have 2 sequels lined up right now. The majority who will see this movie don't give a rats ass about Kelsey Grammars make up.
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if nobody had anything negative to say and we just all went to see movies cuz they are movies, then the world would be filled with movies like House of the Dead and Alone in the Dark and Aliens vs Predator. WE the fans are the voice that these studios mostly listen to, the good ones at least. And if the majority of us say the beast is stupid looking, then maybe we are on to something. Only a pretentious stupid studio doesn't listen to fan feedback.
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And then it says there will be a Wolverine spin-off with Jackman.
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Is he? Anyways, people forgive discrepencies if its done well, though the problem here isn't really discrepencies, he's blue and covered in fur, that's Beast. Its not that he doesn't look like the comic so much as he just doesn't look good period. I'll give em the benefit of more than one photo to prove me wrong, but I can definitely see why people would complain about that pic at least. And I think its funny that they're still trying to figure out what to do with Halle's hair.
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"WE the fans are the voice that these studios mostly listen to"
You have got to be the most naive person on the planet. I almost choked on my corn flakes when I read that. Thanks man, you'll keep me laughing for thre next few hours.
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How many times in the comic books has Wolverine called him a "fuzzy blue elf"?
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Dec 05, 2005 3:00:42 AM CST
First, Nightcrawler WAS covered in fuzz in the comics, and secon
by shermdawg
I just hope Jughead don't look this crappy.
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Metal wings would rock, though.
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...I can't stand sniveling comic book purists like you. Fair enough? Could have made more? Ladies and gentlemen we've got a bonafied studio exec/psychic in our midst who can predict movie box office. While he's here we should tell him how we all want our x-men movies and 'poof' the magic movie fairy will grant our wishes. Because studio execs really care what the fans think.
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Dec 05, 2005 3:10:51 AM CST
Rumple Teaser and McCavity held me down, while Mr. Mestopheles r
by krullboy
CATS references. Why Team America is one of the Best Films of the decade.
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and that's half the battle, not much of an X-Men reader obviously, guess the way he's drawn and his costume just makes the fur harder to notice for dopes like me.
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Dec 05, 2005 3:16:39 AM CST
Halle Berry returned because of "fondness for her costars"?
by flamingrunt
and not at all due to the fact that she cant get a gig because shes box office poison? And when she says "when the first two do so well and are so loved by all the fans" she should remember we love the films Halle, not you. we hate you
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She forever earned my love when she showed up to accept her Razzie.
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Dec 05, 2005 3:48:33 AM CST
haha. hey guys, i hate to bring you back to reality, but Halle c
by sirbiatchreturns
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I expected to hate this movie and it to fuck up a great franchise - all Ratner's previous flicks are DOGSHIT. But now i find myself hoping that it's actually good and maybe even daring to believe it is. I have faith in Grammar anyway; I think character-wise he is perfect for Beast.
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suck.
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Dec 05, 2005 4:00:15 AM CST
Waiting on the trailer is like being a kid, on Christmas Eve!
by shermdawg
I just hope that it doesn't end up being a pair of socks.
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During the middle of Beast's eulogy for Jean, Scott, and Xavier he busts out in a rendition of "Tossed Salad and Scrambled Eggs"!!!!
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Beast looks like a tv movie version...angel looks ok..Halle Berry needs to stop being up her own backside...didn't hear her complaining when she got the part in x1...
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who is this angel person. all i know is the vampire with the soul. i hope boreanaz is in this movie.
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Dec 05, 2005 5:29:36 AM CST
Harry... comparing yourself to Beast is more insulting, crude, a
by w3bzpinn3r
back when the first X-Men was still in casting, I wanted Kelsey Grammer for Beast... when I found out they signed him for X3, I was ecstatic. Now that I see him, OMG it's perfect! He looks just perfect! Now all we need is for him to be reciting shakespeare or thoreau while laying out a few evil brotherhood! Also, Angel's wings are perfect, too. look at a bird's wings... they don't have a whole lot of feathers... the angel wings in constantine had WAY too many feathers. Angel is perfect. He doesn't need a lot of feathers for lift, since his bones are hollow and he only weighs like 60 something lbs (if I remember my X-mythos right)... now... since they scored big on these 2.... WHERE IS THE JUGGERNAUGHT?!?!?!?!?!?!??!
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To use a phrase from a Dave Chapelle skit, " Mannn...Bret Ratner is fucking up!"
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You all suck. I mean, the first 2 were near perfect X-Men movies. Why near perfect? Because it was 45 years of comics with no theatrical movies, a crappy tv movie and then boom...2 good ones. I'll pay to see any X-Men, Hulk, FF, Superman movie etc... because I love seeing even just parts of my childhood brought to life. It's enough. I enjoy. The end.
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anyone remember the first pics of X-Men 1? when everyone griped about how horrid Hugh looked as Wolverine... comments from too tall, to "big nose" to "look how scrawny" to "where's the points in the hair?" etc? Now Hugh has made such an imprint on the Wolvie character that many artists in the comics base their art on Hugh. He *IS* Wolverine.
Same with Magneto. "OMG! An old gay man is playing Magneto! The movie will suck!" Ian nailed Magneto's character PERFECTLY... the charm, the the self-righteous air of superiority, as well as tiny hints of remorse at what he must sacrifice to achieve his goals (be it the death of Rogue or Xavier).
X2 had the pic of Nightcrawler with the hole in his pants. "OMG! What is the deal with the gypsy clothes and tattos? He looks like a gay hobo!" and then the movie came out, and the same people sang it's praise from the mountaintops.
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Hmm, maybe they know that by rushing this into production they aren't going to get a chance at another one... Kinda sucks really when you consider there are loads of stories still to be told. What is it about studios wanting to make trilogies?
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That is all Ithankyew.
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Does USA Today know something we don't? Seems like maybe Fox has no faith in the franchise anymore if the talk is that this could be the last core X-Men flick just months before X3 hits. Are they suggesting that X3 is a franchise killer? Way to support an upcoming tentpole guys! I really want this to work. X-men started well but the storyline with Magneto was a bit week. X2 was generally ok (again great opening) but never really seemed to get off the ground. I want to see badass mutants at the height of their powers, really kicking off, i want to see wolverine going totally beserker, tearing the crap out of bad guys. I want some ACTION to go the the story. I'm prepared to give Ratner a chance, after all Singer always felt like he was holding back from making his X-men films real epics, but to say already that this is it when there are so many potential stroylines sends a very negative signal.
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were NOT that great, admit it. Neither is Singer for that matter.
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they kill the movies. Wait a few years, reboot the franchise into a long term tv show that will have offshoots and bigscreen spinoffs. Who am I kidding, Fox, won't do that, they have absolutely no fuckin idea how to maintain any of there killer sci-fi properties. Just look at Aliens, Planet of the Apes, etc. FOX SUCKS!!! If it wasn't for 24, and Rescue Me, I'd boycott the company all together!
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Is that he's angry. Should have had him looking calm and wise; it looks wrong because beast hardly ever looks pissed.
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Dec 05, 2005 7:15:24 AM CST
I wonder if Singer will suprise us with anything today, to stic
by shermdawg
Also, how cool would it be if Brett Ratner entered the talkback arena ala Kevin Smith? Wonder if his comebacks are as good as Kev's? Cause you know, we'd rip the son of a bitch a new one!
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Dec 05, 2005 7:23:06 AM CST
So what's the bullshit reason Harry has for hating X-Men 3?
by citizen arcane
It's pretty obvious that Harry's impressions of a film depend solely on either his pre-concieved notions or his interpersonal relationship with the filmmaker involved. So did the Rush Hour guy rape Harry's grandmother or something? I have no reason to believe that X-Men 3 will be any more or less mediocre than the other dozen comic book films released this or next year. I'm just wondering why this particular one is garnering all the excess ire.
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Recast Cyclopse if you hate the actor, but killing him off is the stupidest move the movies can make. They have barely utilized him as the foil he should be for Wolverine, and this is the straw the breaks the camel's back. And what the HELL do you smoke to think killing off Prof X in the third movie is a good idea? Fuck this until those plans change.
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At least in that still. I was worried about how Beast would end up in this but I'm actually pretty impressed with what little I've seen so far. Of Beast, anyway. Unfortunately Halle's still in it, and I've come to dislike her more and more. "My People" indeed.
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And second he is not there to be a foil of Wolverine's. Scott is the glue that holds the X-men universe together. Virtually, just about EVERY major storyline revolved around him. FUCK Wolverine. It's not Wolverine and the X-men. Damn give Summers a break, people! And when I mean break, I SURE AS HELL DON'T MEAN KILLING HIS ASS OFF!!!
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Okay, I haven't looked at the photos as I want to be blown away by the teaser (Yeah, dream on), but this talk of no X4 is worrying.
Think of how many great stories there are left to tell for the X-Men. It's a far more epic and cinematic franchise and I can't believe that Marvel and Fox (is it Fox??) are just going to let this one go. -
He certainly doesn't look like Dr. Frasier Crane, which was my biggest fear. I agree that he shouldn't look pissed, though. But, he and Angel could've looked SO much worse. So my place in line to decree "X3 will suck!!!" is still on hold.
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Are we there yet? Can I open just one present? *sigh* AW FUCK! I just remembered I can never get the Quicktime movies to work. >_< DAMMIT!!!!!
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there is a glimmer of hope.
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was angel and beast both transformed by apocolypse or just angel? who changed first? has angel since changed back or is he still blue and have sharp wings? beast was human with big hands and feet then he was blue and furry. did he do that to himself? doh.
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Dec 05, 2005 8:25:09 AM CST
Lat time I checked Angel was blue, but back with the old wings,
by shermdawg
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"the world would be filled with movies like House of the Dead and Alone in the Dark and Aliens vs Predator." Hmmm... I thought we lived in that world anyway. :) As for all the hating and hating of hating... "So what if Beast doesn't look exactly like you pictured in your overblown imaginations." Um... I don't really put much brain power into what beast should look like in a film. It's as much my imagination as making him something you would recognize from even just a casual background in the comics or cartoons. If Batman didn't have a cape for no apparent reason, I think people would not be that picky for pointing it out. Beast should be a beast, like a cross between and ape and a wolf... and counter that with a almost above human intelligence and cool headedness. That was the point of beast. He had the best of both worlds. This just looks like something Kids in the Hall would do to teenwolf... Rouwl... Peace.
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Dec 05, 2005 8:42:38 AM CST
"There was this one time, where they dyed Kelsey Grammer blue, a
by shermdawg
"It's true." *Pushes glasses back against face, and smacks lips twice*
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The poster above is correct: Beast does look like an extra from "Cats".
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Dec 05, 2005 9:04:11 AM CST
Wow, Catwoman must have been rougher on Halle than we thought, s
by big bad clone
Is this her doing that punk version of Storm?
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Dec 05, 2005 9:06:53 AM CST
Beast looks like he's in a Broadway version of the Uncanny X
by big bad clone
Will he have pants with big furry feet sticking out?
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Dec 05, 2005 9:06:57 AM CST
The beast looks like a mix between the creeper and a wookie all
by silverdog
And yet x3 is looking better(or not as bad) as superman returns... other than that: wolverine ( nothing new to see there), angel( the wings in constantine looked much better), and storm(halle berry with a new bad hairdo and still looking like and idiot)..
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I think this Beast pic is horrible, BUT I think 50% of my negative reaction is with the pose. Beast is not a 'beast'... That's why the name is ironic, but you can pretty much attribute the monster representation in the pic to the marketing department (think Nightcrawler promo pic... same deal)... I'm guessing the movie will show him differently. The other 50% of negativity is just that I'm not a huge fan of the make-up, but I'm guessing the casting of Grammer is so perfect, that Beast will be my favorite character in X3 anyway. AS FOR Angel, HOLY SHIT! Those wings look sweet in the pic and will look sweeter in use, and the Actor got ripped! He is so hot. As for the 'final X-film' bit, as much as I want more movies, I dont want more shitty movies. If this one is recieved well like X2, Im guessing they find a way to do a 4th. If not, than we may have dodged a massive hollywood-trying-to-cash-in-a-la-batman-and-robin bullet.
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Dec 05, 2005 9:10:57 AM CST
Man...it's really starting to snow like a Brett Ratner outsi
by shermdawg
Ooops, my bad, I meant Son of a Bitch. heh
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I'm hoping that there will be at least one scene in the movie that will feature Cyclops, Marvel Girl, Angel, Iceman, and the Beast together. I've always preferred the original Lee/Kirby X-Men - especially when they were handled by Roy Thomas and Neal Adams (with a special nod to Don Heck for his amazing Sunfire fill-in issue). I know what you are thinking... the Beast was never blue and furry in those issues, but that is one change I think was for the better. Although I am not a big fan of Brett Ratner's previous films (kind of hard to follow Micheal Mann's Manhunter), I do sincerely wish him the best of luck with X-Men 3.
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Ha ha, had to say it. :) Still want VH2. Not that X-Men isn't horrible, but if they recast Jimmy "can't act his way out of a paper bag" Marsden with Kirby "Canuck that played Cyclops in the newest cartoon" Morrow in a possible 4th movie, then I'll have renewed faith in the franchise.
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Big-ass angel wings make me happy, especially when they're on the "Flash Forward" guy. :D
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Dec 05, 2005 9:21:17 AM CST
So, any word if a recasted Sabretooth might show up in the Wolvi
by shermdawg
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Isn't he supposed to be furry all over? Hm. And as long as we're being nitpicky, why does Storm have gray streaks in her hair? Still looking forward to the trailer and the movie, but I suspect it's not going to be as good as it could have been.
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Hey, I don't want Scott dead either(sorry, Greek Myth fan's impulse to tack on the "e" is hard to shake), but I figured at least the movies, which were guaranteed to focus on the overdone Wolverine, would at least let him be a strong rival but he's not even that! And now they're killing him off! I think we're on the same page as far as being pissed about that.
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The rumorus say that the Beast is upset about not being able to go out in public due to his appearnce. This not only conflicts with the comic book, where beast has an image enhancer to make him appear normal to the public, but also to the last movie where The Beast is seen on a TV screen, clearly working for the Xmen, but is also very clearly human looking.
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The Beast photo also immediately struck me as wrong because they have Grammer snarling. That's not Beast. They should have him with spectacles on reading Shakespeare.
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Dec 05, 2005 10:12:40 AM CST
There won't be an X4 because Xavier and Magneto are dead, wh
by performingmonkey
Also, there's no chance of them hiring the actors for a fourth movie, especially if this hack is at the helm for it. Halle Berry only came back because they gave her more to do (fucking a co-star).
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So where the hell is this trailer that everyone keeps saying is going to debut today?
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Dec 05, 2005 10:28:40 AM CST
"WE the fans are the voice that these studios mostly listen to"
by grayle
Lol.. if that were the case, they'd have stopped making movies years ago, because most of you are never happy with anything anymore...
most of you are always whining when they don't look like they do in the comic... so he does here, and you're still whining.... and he's got a dippy leather jacket on, so what? there's an incredible concept out there called people being able to take them off just as easily as they went on...for all you know he might never even have it on in the movie and some of you are tanking the whole thing from that... just like how everyone was sooo sure macy gray was the end of the spiderman movie... all 10 secs of her screen time...lol -
...someone took Johnny Cash out of the freezer. Why would his face not have fur? That makes no sense to me. Angel looks good, though. As for this being the last X-film, I called that back before they switched directors. Doesn't mean they need to kill off characters willy nilly though. My hopes for the mutant swan song aren't high, but I hold out a glimmer that the Wolverine movie might be decent.
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Dec 05, 2005 10:38:06 AM CST
Well, Grayle, Spider-man did suck, but it wasn't because of
by shermdawg
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As much as I'd like to scream foul, it looked really good. Doesn't mean the script blows, but the Beast looks great.
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EVERYTHING!!!
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...is all about shitting on movies before they're released. It doesn't matter how good, bad, or authentic it looks, someone will shit on it here - most likely someone who's accomplished nothing in life beyond sorting his parents' mail.
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until we see him in action. Promo shots are usually lame - we don't get a sense of his proportions or his personality. Love the shot of the strapped down wings - always liked Foster - from Freaks and Geeks to SFU and Northfork. Though a blonde Wentworth Miller (Prison Break) would have been awesome, too. He needs to play a mutant. I still say Gina Torres (Zoe from Firefly) would have made a perfect Storm (no pun intended), with much more 'goddess-ness' and regal bearing than Halle Berry could dream of. And unlike Halle, if Gina's eyes went white, you'd be running for shelter. And on the spinoffs - there's a Wolverine spinoff, a Magneto flashback spinoff, and a X-Men Next Gen spinoff. Hoping the last one will do more with Kitty, Jubilee, Colossus and Syren. Let's see - how about Elisha Cuthbert as Boomer/Meltdown? What other New Mutants would people like to see? And a final note on Beast for the rusty - Hank experimented on himself at the Brand Corporation after he graduated from the original X-Men (and before he joined the Avengers). So yes, the blue and the fur were unintentionally self-inflicted (unlike Nightcrawler who was born with it). Of course, later, he did turn into a reject from Cats, with his 'secondary mutation.' I'm glad they're not going with the image inducer - that's kind of a tech copout, especially if you want to ground it more in reality. That would be like doing the holodeck thing with the Danger Room (which would be too funny with Picard...I mean Xavier there).
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Like they were made of plastic or something. Beast looks like a troll from Lord of the Rings, and Wolverine looks like he's getting set to play Richard III.
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Had to look him up to see what role he was after osin's posts, Eli!? Man, already mentioned it, but even more so now, that's an impressive transition the guy's made, body wise.
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People that wanted it CG would complain, and people that wanted makeup effects would still complain. Pleasing everyone is never an option.
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as Morph? Bring the Crane brothers back together one last time!
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Well at least this director is avoiding big thighs and homoerotic lipgloss. Singer was not the man to do a superman flick...
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** i don't know if anyone ever answered your question, but angel was transformed into archangel by apocalypse. and beast was given the name back when he was just a guy with really big hands and feet. he experiemented on himself to get rid of his beast like qualities and "poof" he became blue and fuzzy.
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Dec 05, 2005 11:50:49 AM CST
a true Bret Ratner story from the set of X3 - YOU MUST READ THIS
by best_best_boy
i worked on the set of x3, but dont want to say what, for fear of them figuring out who i am and me getting into serious shit, but i am telling you this story is 100% true. Mr Ratner must not have known someone else knew he was doing this, but he was waiting outside the bathrooom, sorry, he was waiting outside the ladies' bathroom and propositioned one of the girls who was working on the movie. pulled the old 'so....do you wanna be a movie star'? bullshit. she looked pretty upset and told him NO. Also, from talk on the set, he tries to get 15 year old girls back to his trailer all the time, and is also apparently publishing a book of nude photos of his exgirlfriends. this is what one of the crew told me. apparently he is always propositioning girls on the set and is just a big greasy bastard.
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but we don't get a picture yet of Topher Grace playing Eddie Brock. We all know it's true, just release it, for the love of God!!!
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Dec 05, 2005 11:53:24 AM CST
who said the first two were so good they qualified singer as dei
by teddanson37
if the first one came out today, we'd all hate it. i can barely watch the thing, and i loved it so much at it's release i went and saw it like three times in theaters. not because it was ground-breaking for the film industry, but because it was x-men, the heroes of my childhood, and it was freakin amazing just to see wolverine pop those claws and magneto rip that train up. and x2 was just a little better than that. i think the real thing the singer movies focused on was the team aspect of the comics. we never got to see them act as a team. you never get to see more than two mutants on screen at the same time using their powers. but i hope the third will have the individuals on the team acting as one, fighting someone or something. cuz that would save the day for me. and bryan singer's movies were great but i think it was mostly due to the performances of mr. jackman, mr. mckellan, and of course mr. stewart. i said this six months ago when the big spoiler showed up on AICN, and i'll say it now. the true "fanboys" (not the guys who just want to whine) will have nothing to whine about if they are true to the characters, cuz we true fanboys know there are no characters quite like that of the x-men.
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Dec 05, 2005 12:00:01 PM CST
another true Bret Ratner story from the set of X3 - YOU MUST REA
by teddanson37
i worked on the set of x3, and i saw bret ratner eating people. yes that's right, he's a cannibal. he james marsden's stunt double, and some of the lighting crew. he tried to eat kelsey grammar but he figured all that "fancy talkin" kelsey does would do a number with his acid reflux. he even called kelly hugh and told her she had a part in X3 and when she showed up, he devoured her...in 1 GULP!!! i hear he's always trying to eat 15 yearold girls, and he's publishing a cookbook full of recipes he used on his exgirlfriends. apparently he is always eating people on the set and is just a big greasy bastard.
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Dec 05, 2005 12:02:42 PM CST
Shouldn't Beast look more like an animal with an actual snou
by doc_strange
Cuz he just looks like yet another blue guy. Seems like every Xmen movie has at least one blue person in it. Honestly, this Beast sucks and doesn't look like they put any real effort into the design. Lame.
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Dec 05, 2005 12:14:24 PM CST
Angel and Beast look really good, and I kind of like Storm's
by iamlegolas
But Ratner is still directing, never forget
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Dec 05, 2005 12:17:24 PM CST
X3, Kong, A Trek reboot, all this made me forget Narnia comes ou
by shermdawg
Dang.
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Dec 05, 2005 12:31:33 PM CST
Ok I just read that the teaser trailer is NOT on the F4 dvd!
by shermdawg
Is this the teaser we were waiting for? And if so, because it wont be on the dvd, does that mean apple.com won't have it up today? WELL? DOES IT?
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angel looks awful?!? He looks pudgey and nothing like the cool rendition in xmen TAS and the comics. horrible i think beast looks surprisingly ok.
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can anybody else out there tell me if they like cyclops? I HATE james Marsden....what a tool. the first movie hes just pure aweful, barely tolerable in the second. And in my AICN whedon-esque like faith of Bryan Singer why o why is he corrupting ANY frames on Supes?
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Dec 05, 2005 12:49:12 PM CST
Also , dude, don't place all the blame on Marsden, he didn&#
by shermdawg
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We as fans have a duty to uphold. When studios do not listen to fans, they make mistakes like casting jessica alba to be the invisible girl. Or when Studios do not respect the intellectual property they make messes like Aliens vs predator which shat on all of us. So I completely disagree when someone says talk backers are nothing but lonely whinners. We are in fact doing our duty as citizens who view movies more of an art form and not a place where you can get to second base with that hoochy mama you been trying to get with
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I bet he will be way better than alan cumming, by the way of acting like his character. I never bought nightcrawler, except in the opening sequence when he didn't speak.
And angel looks great-just like the comic! I like that they didn't "dirty" his wings up and left them white, instead of grey, black or those stupid archangel metal wings.
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Dec 05, 2005 1:27:26 PM CST
Beast does look kinda lame, but it may look completely different
by uncooked_meat
But more importantly, WHEN IS THE MOTHERFUCKING TRAILER GOING UP?
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That's FUCKIN BRILLIANT!
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I say recast for a tv series.
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Why the Studio Couldn't Afford to Pay the Actors Anymore so We're Killing One of Our Most Successful Franchises Even though There's Still Tons of Potential for at least Three More Films. Or would that title be too long?
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To impress a hot young fan of graphic novels, Frasier convinces Niles to help him convince the make-up artist of a traveling production of "Cats" to help make him up as "the Beast" for their date to a comic book convention. Hilarity ensues as the girl runs from him in disgust and Martin finally kills himself out of shame.
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Nobody could possibly figure out what your job is. Unless of course, they happened to read your screen name.
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So is this this supposed to come out sometime today?
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And as for my impressions, I liked Angel. I was surprised to see that the actor got that buff (after seeing him in Hostage), but something is a little off in BEAST. Perhaps it's the pose, so I won't be quick to judge. But now that you mention it, he does look like he came from CATS. I thought Storm's hair in the last film was ok. Why make it gray? Now she just looks older, but not any wiser.
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It's the "Drowned at the Bottom of the Lake" version of you. TAKE A GOOD LOOK, KNOWLES.
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Dec 05, 2005 2:44:44 PM CST
There is so much untapped potential in the "X-Men" movie franchi
by magunga
Seriously, with literally dozens of characters and storylines to choose from, it's a wonder why they haven't decided to branch out a bit. I understand that they don't want to spread the brand name too thin, but X-Men needn't be put to rest simply because the previous storylines have run their course. It would be interesting to explore the darker side of this world. As i've said before, if you take, say, Apocalypse, trim off the mountainous layers of cheese, and you have one incredibly interesting villain and several storyline options.
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...Let me just echo the sentiment that Beast is not in a character-appropriate pose. Besides, he looks ridiculous. Angel fails to impress me. I don't think the pictures of him are horrible, they just aren't interesting poses. Also, and I can't believe I'm talking about this, I like the new look they gave Storm. Anyway, here's to hoping that the trailer looks better than the pics!
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...Because Avi is taking his X-ball and going home. Home, in this case, is Marvel Films and the Paramount deal. He's been pulling this with all the properties - Hulk 2, Punisher 2, Surfer, Iron Man, Strange, Namor - this is also the reason we've been assaulted with two rushed films from FOX, (FF and X3). Only the Wolverine rights are going to remain at FOX under Jackman's new production deal.
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Dec 05, 2005 3:10:14 PM CST
X-MEN 3: THE LAST STAND IN THE PLACE THAT YOU ARE...THINK ABOUT
by spyguy
If Ratner and company were looking to add to the negative buzz surrounding this flick, they certainly did a good job with these pics. Now, if the Beast was being shown reading a copy of WAR AND PEACE upside down, or Angel soaring over a Sentinel or something, THOSE would have been the pics to get the fanboys excited. Thank goodness we still have a decent SPIDER-MAN franchise for at least one more flick...
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...as if Barker looked at the sketch and said "That's too ghey, even for me".
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Wish THAT had a damn sequel.
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That makes perfect sense, and I've read a bit of that myself, but do you have a reference for your last post, suchn as a news article or official anouncement from Marvel?
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I'm looking forward to this, but I'm suprised that they made the Beast blue. One of the funniest and most poignant criticisms of the X-franchise to date is that there are more characters with blue skin than there are with black, or brown, etc. Perhaps we should re-program the Sentinels to hunt down movie producers without the mutant ability to predict PC fallout.
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or will even read this, but I think it looks fine. I wasn't too keen on the idea of the "Frasier Crane" as the Beast, but I think Grammer will pull it off nicely. At least I think he can pull off the intellectual side of the character. They can always use a double for the action sequences.
Anyway, since no one is going to read this anyway, just wanted to say that Joss sucks, Superman Returns will probably suck (I hope not though), and you all suck.
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Dec 05, 2005 3:30:11 PM CST
would the smurf version of harry sell out for a positive review
by flamingrunt
Or would he actually have some professional dignity?
rottentomatoes has a 15% positive review rate of Aeon Flux, AICN has a 100% rate? Hmmmmmm -
I read a review of the preview that was screened for insiders and it sounded interesting. I wonder which movie will be better (and make more money): X3 or Superman?
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I'm glad to see Flash Forward guy get some work. As for Cyclops, he is a righteously
un-interesting twat and I hope he gets killed by whatever mutant has the power to cause buses to hit people and drag them for 8 or 9 blocks begging to be killed. Beast does look a little weird but I'll wait until I can see how he looks and interacts onscreen before I decide. Now if I can just see a picture of Juggernaut cause I'm really curious how he is going to look. -
at least that's what comicscontinuum reported . . . damn, I'm trembling in fear that this won't rock . . .
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And when the shit is the trailer going up?
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More pics of wolverine and storm (looking worse everytime. Halle looks baaaad in that pic, but if your last 2 movies were catwoman and gothika, you`ll be looking like that too) like we didnt have enough of them in the first 2 movies..
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Dec 05, 2005 4:18:18 PM CST
Why does the hair look like blue carpet pasted on with elmers gl
by rant breath
Those are some lame SFX. For fuck's sake, spend the extra cash and hire Rick Baker you cheapskate-pieces of shit!
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In the comics (geek moment in 3, 2,1) Beast, at least his face anyways, looked like Wolverine except blue. That was mostly during the John Byrne era. I don't think Frasier Beast looks too bad, it's just the pose that's all wrong. Or maybe the studio folks want non-fans to think that Beast is a monster up until his massive intellect is revealed. Who really knows....
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teaser trailer reports are up now because it played on Access Hollywood. And, it looks good. I'll glady eat it if it blows me away.
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Dec 05, 2005 5:10:48 PM CST
I honestly thought that Kelsey was just going to do the voice an
by vinceklortho
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i find it funny that the fanboys whine when they do a character in complete cg (such as the hulk) and they also whine when they put someone in lots of make-up and such (like beast and the thing). not many options left...except stop motion and hand drawn animation. we could see if that guy that made the rudolph stop motion movie back in the day is still alive and maybe they still have the abominable snowmonster and can paint that blue to be the beast. i think the picture is just under a bad light and looks unnatural due to the fact that it is an unnatural pose and he's not back dropped by the real world. the suit he's wearing looks like something right out of the ultimate x-men's uniform design.
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holy hell i have to see this flick so i can jerk off to angel
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www.x3movie.com
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Dec 05, 2005 6:12:23 PM CST
Normal fols are gonna look at the trailer or the site and see th
by mortsleam
"Why did the German circus guy get so hairy, and what happened to his facial tattoos?" Because people are stupid. I actually think Grammar as McCoy looks pretty good, if a little too moussed and not quite inhuman enough. I understand the need to make Kelsey visible (and I'm sure he wouldn't want to sit through the hours of makeup), but wouldn't the Beast's third mutation into the feline form from Morrison's run look awesome? Speaking of facial tattoos, Callisto is pretty damn hot for the leader of underground homeless subway tunnel dwelling mutants.
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its pretty obvious from that trailer that they kill him off
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slow it down...and there's wolvie flying at thru the air and behind him on the ground there's someone on the ground...looks like a big shiny guy. and juggernaut looks like crap just because his helmet looks like magnetos.
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I say with apprehension. Trailer does look good though. I'm interested.
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Dec 05, 2005 6:21:27 PM CST
"Beast should be hanging upside down with reading glasses" The t
by mrfloppy
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Why is Jean Grey next to Magneto and all the bad guys in the trailer..and why is she wearing all red....
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oh, no, it looks good.
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it looks pretty effin' amazing
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Oh yeah! Colossus chuckin' wolvie through the air!! I could do without all of the whirlibird Storm Action. Her hair STILL looks like crap.
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Beast actually looks like a classic monster in the trailer. I'm interested to see more of what they are doing. They really need to do touch-up work on Angel's wings, though. They looked way too synthetic when he opened them up. And the music in the trailer sucked. But I dug it.
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Well I've just seen the trailer and I think it looks damm cool. Its got a great look to it, the cinematography looks better, and the colours stronger than the previous 2, I havent read the script yet as some of you have, as Id rather watch the film as intended, so I've gotta say this looks very promising!!! I hope its not the last, I wanna see more dammit!!
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1) Access Hollywood is a fucking awful, awful show. 2) I take back my early sentiments - Beast does, indeed, look like crap. 3) Trailers without dialogue - a good idea sometimes, not here. 4) No Angel? 5) I need to watch it about 85 more times.
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now that's what I needed to see :-D . . . I'm sold with the rest of it . . . looks awesome and at least superficially adherent to x-men mythology, but I won't stop being skeptical.
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Both the Professor and Cyke are missing at the funeral, so much for Fox's bullshit about AICN reviewing an OLD version of the script. Juggernaut looks like ass.
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And I'm not too sure about Juggernaut yet. He should've been much bigger. I'll have to see him in more action than just walking.
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http://www.kirby-morrow.netfirms.com/ Give him Scott's visor and I guarantee he'd be better than that no-talent hack. The problem? He's Canadian. And Canadians always end up in small roles or as extras. Interesting fact, the man who played Prof. X on "X-Men: Evolution" played a TV reporter in X2, and Kelsey Grammar was in "Barbie of Swan Lake" with Venus Terzo (Jean Grey), Michael Dobson (Blob and Pyro), and Scott MacNeil (Wolverine).
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... either that or Access's wasn't the full thing. Or I missed the beginning. But yeah, Angel's in there. It also might be that I'm really, really high.
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aargh! Still says waiting for applemovies.com...
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http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox/x3/hd/
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Dec 05, 2005 6:49:27 PM CST
Well,...the movie may still suck but the teaser was definately d
by r.c. the "wise"
Damn. Famke/Halle/Rebecca still look diabolical. Jackman and Stewart are always dope. As for Juggarnaut...well,...he could look worse. Vinne Jones rules. Angel is meh. Kelsey Grammer is perfect for best...don't know if the costume will hold up for me. Overall, meh I'll check it out. I mean, I'd rather see this than M.I.3. Just don't trust Ratner or the writer's handling of this project though.
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Dec 05, 2005 6:49:56 PM CST
Oh, and I forgot... Thank you so much to all of you for the spoi
by mrfloppy
They're pretty obvious, yes, but they're still spoilers.
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As the Jug ?
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Not on Ain't It Cool! Yeah . . .
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What power Callisto has ?
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..Still, so did the Star Wars trailers, but I am routing for this one awfully hard and dearly want it to rock.
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While it is going to be awesome to see Colossus and Kitty and Iceman on the team, I am a little worried about the look of Beast and Juggernaught. I could do without the Storm whirlibird crap too. I have to say I am more impressed than I expected to be. Maybe our low expectations will lead to a more enjoyable movie going experience.
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You all trash the pictures yet you all know you will go see the movie! I am staying cautionsly optimistic. I was mostly pleased with Fantastic Four. The only Marvel flicks I genuinely hated were Elektra and Hulk. Otherwise, I have been pleased with everything else. I expect to be with X3 as well.
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Better than I hoped. It looks like they have a "story." Of course, teasers are easy that way.
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Since you asked: I like the character of Cyclops quite a lot. More so, I think James Marsden is great and great in the role, with the tiny amount he's been given. In the first movie he was extremely funny playing the smug, jealous side of Scott, who can be pretty damn smug and petty. However, X2 then failed to give him more to do and if rumors are true, it seems X3 gives him less to do, so that sucks.
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Music was "meh"-
But I liked 90% of all the images. It does look grander, which is what the 1st two movies needed-Bigger action!
Yes, it's obvious that Cyke takes the dirt plunge and jeannie goes "bad". But Dark Phoenix? Not likely.
She would makes toast out of Magneto ("eric"), not standby him listening to his speech.
Beast looks better in motion (freeze the frame of him in action, and he does look furry all over).
Great for more colossus, angel looks cool, too much wolvie (as usual), marsden looked like he was acting! And Halle and her stupid whirlybird! That is really dumb. How about the little thing she can command like the WEATHER???
But I am pretty optimistic now.
And I think Genro is right about the new Marvel deal.
But who says they cannot launch X-Factor the movie? Or even Ultimate X?
Maybe the death of these studio superhero pics is not a bad thing.
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Phew, now I can relax.
As long as Beast os actually furry (which he is), and Colossus and Wolvie do the fastball special, I'm happy. I've been waiting 15 hours for this to go online (live in Sweden).
Lemme just say bthat I was not at all happy over the picture of Beast released last night.
But this trailer though.
Not disappointed. Why? Well?
Cool to see Dark Phoenix.
Storm looks better, plus she's flying in this...
I've gotta say, that in High Def, Angel's wing do not seem plastic at all.
The entire movie seems grander in scope and much more kinetic than its predecessors, what with seems to be large outdoor battles and multiple fights in the same frame. Me likee.
However, when Magneto is addressing his minions, and Juggs is standing to the left of him (stage left), Juggs is looking a little plastic. Like he's had bad ceramic muscle inplants.
All in all, Ratner is not having me at hello. let's just wait and see the proper trailer...
But what can I say - so far so good.
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Sorry 'bout grammar and typo errors in my last post. It's really quite late here, and I've been up all day waiting for Apple to post the damn thing already.
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I hope they CGI out Mr Mrsdens rotten gnashers when he screams - Eric would rip his head off with them!
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that teaser is a lot, i repeat lot better than superman returns.
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I'm slightly more optimistic now. I might even say that it's better than the trailers for the previous films. Really, check those out. They weren't too indicative of the ultimate quality of the films, especially with that silly music in one of the X-Men 1 trailers.
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Just saw the X3 traler on Attack of the Show. Looks way better than I thought it would. Looks like the war we've been waiting to see between Human and Mutant is upon us. Action seems to be the thing that stood out in this trailer. Hopefully the rest of the film is as kinetic as that.
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Did you guys not see Storm doing Zangief's spinny-punch move... twice? And all credit it to them, Beast actually looks WORSE moving. His face and hair appear to get bigger with each subsequent shot. Top it all off with Juggy's delightful foam abs, and you've got yourself one honking stinkuss.
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Dec 05, 2005 7:26:10 PM CST
As someone who was totally apprehensive about Ratner coming on b
by blindambition238
...that was a pretty cool teaser. Its obvious that the action is bigger and badder; seems like we finally get to see a raging mutant free for all. Also relieved to see that they arent glossing over dark phoenix storyline that Singer and crew set up in the last 2 flicks. Of course it is a teaser trailer so Im waiting to see some dialogue and story to be totally convinced. As for the nitpicks: Jugs looks like a short bus version of his Ultimate self. Beast looks alright, but that uniform looks like shit on him... oh yea and Im not digging Storm's new power of spinning around really fast to fight people... nor the anticipated fling with Wolvie... and for the sake of all the speculation going on, i think i might have made out two names on that memorial thingy which might support the rumors about slim and wheels taking dirt naps.
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That looks pretty DAMN cool.
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It would seem most people were pleased by the teaser trailer. Well I wasn't and I really want to be. I don't know what is bugging me about it but I'm not thrilled with it. And Juggernaut looks dumb but that is understandable since Juggernaut is just too damn big for a person, even a soccer hooligan to play. Far be it from me to go the way of the twat fanboy and write it off as I want this to be a good movie. I want this to be a movie that gets me to go to theaters again. So in lieu of any more bitching I think I will wait and see what else comes out about this movie. Wow, all that effort on a teaser trailer...now if I could only dedicate that kind of intensity to finishing my master degree.
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...and that kid who plays Pyro would have made 10 times the Anakin Skywalker that H.C made. There's real evil in his eyes.
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Overall, I liked it more than SUPERMAN RETURNS, but it doesn't even begin to touch how cool X2's trailer was. And if that guy walking to the right and a little behind Magneto when his army is walking towards the camera near the end is Juggernaut... well, they fucked that up royally. I was most pumped to see Juggernaut running around the big screen more than anything, and to see them take away all of his armor... God, how hard is it just take what's in the comic?! He should look like a walking tank, not a suped-up He-Man. That's really dissappointing.
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Dec 05, 2005 7:41:41 PM CST
Looks like the best one so far. The other 2 were mediocre at bes
by mr. profit
Singers's 2 movies looked so fucking cheap.
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Dec 05, 2005 7:45:00 PM CST
I thought Red Dragon was awesome, so this could be good.
by iamnicksaicnsn
The trailer rocked the house down. I can't believe they'd kill Professor X.
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Ratner, I may become your bitch after all.
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Dec 05, 2005 7:46:46 PM CST
trailer's great. beast takes a little getting used to, but
by freakemovie
We all complain about Brett Ratner when it was clear they wanted him because he's a solid "hired gun", as they say. He's not gonna screw up the movie if the cast is good and the script is good. We already know the cast is good -- so what it's really up to is Zak Penn and Simon Kinberg. If the teaser is any inclination, they're doing something right. I'm still reserved but much more optimistic.
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Or the kid that plays Angel. I think both would have been better than HC. Oh, and why are people trashing Angel in this? That's my favorite part from the trailer.
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Dec 05, 2005 7:53:11 PM CST
I VCAN'T THE TRAILER TO WORK AT EITHER SITE!!!! SON OF A BIT
by shermdawg
MUST SEE! >_<
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I'm still apprehensive, but I'm gonna lock the snark back up for now. (Though I still say the press photo of Beast suuuuuuuuucks).
Count me in the "Beast looks much better in motion" camp. Although I am concerned that the shots of him in action are so very, very brief. (Just a few frames at times). Also, not a fan of New Storm with Whirly-Bird action! Maybe she should change her name to Twister.
Angel looks fine. Juggernaut looks fine (of course he has basically the same helmet as Magneto -- I'm sure Mags gave it to him to avoid interference from Wheels).
And while that certainly looked like a "fastball special", I didn't see Colossus in the background. (though I could be looking at the wrong clip).
And of course, I am COMPLETELY down with Phoenix walking round in those little black short-shorts. That's nothing but goodness.
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He looks utterly crap.
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I can't play tha Apple ones period. And the one off x3.com, when I click on either of the trailers it brings up a click to resume image, thats it! PLEASE I NEED HELP!!!!
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Dec 05, 2005 8:08:29 PM CST
Actually that would be the one thing that will ruin it for me.
by blindambition238
I could take not having Sentinels, no Hellfire, a reduced Dark Phoenix plot, or even a somewhat recycled government mutant cure plot. Though, the idea of... (Spoliler if you havent already perused this TB or any related to X3).... killing Cyclops is pretty fucked up. Those two are pretty much the entire foundation of the X-Men in all incarnations. Cyclops is supposed to be "the X-man" and like someone else said, hes the glue that holds the team together. Its a shame if they still plan to get rid of him, and if other talk is true, so quickly and early, all because they didnt use him to his full potential in the other films. Sorry about that rant, but X-men are about the only thing I geek out over so I was compelled.
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sorry it should of said one but I was about to write about Prof X too but i didnt care about him as much
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WHAT THE FUCK?!
I offically hate Bret Ratner now worse than Hitler. At least Hitler had the decency to die. This looks horrid. I mean like Batman and Robin horrid. Goddamit, Beast is my favorite and now he looks like Frasier ate some of that Wonka gum. -
That would've been fucking amazing. Those assholes.
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And thus, fellow talkbackers, we have seen the day when AICN hyperbole reached truly epic proportions. A level which has not been seen before, and will not see again. Let us sit and comtemplate it.
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If they think they can make money from it.
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Looks like I picked the wrong day to quit takin' amphetamines.
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Dec 05, 2005 8:38:03 PM CST
Why do you people care if you can't see the trailer? I thoug
by monkeybrains
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Cmon, this looks pretty good. Some points that I liked and a few nerdy nitpicks: You are all right, I didn't like Juggs. Not impressed with the uniform. Beast, I was impressed with. Looks cool and could be a nice subplot/origin story to keep the movie rolling. I am very impressed with the mutant fights that look to be brewing. That's one of the things that I thought the first two lacked. And last, but not least, Hollywood wonderboys Zack Penn and Simon Kinberg. I don't trust em. I especially don't trust Kinberg. Prove me wrong, though. But this footage is in line to completely prove me wrong. Go ahead Ratner.
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Check out how many cavities are in Marsden's Mouth??!?!!?!?!? I'm surprised that both Lois and Jean hit that.
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Yes we already know the dynamic of this conversation. MOST of us know that promos are sometimes lacking (as well as deceiving) but I'm sure the preview will be maddening in that it'll make me want to see a film whose story I already despise. As I have said before, though I'm guardedly optimistic (though I have not seen the trailer yet), all the cameos in the world cannot save this trainwreck of a plot.
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Looks like Ratner took some chances and they paid off! It's like Ratner took Singer's universe and ran with it. haha all the ratner-haters better run for cover. That teaser made Singer's Superman teaser look like SHIT!
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Dec 05, 2005 8:59:40 PM CST
I got it working, and the only think that sticks out is the crap
by shermdawg
The rest actually looks kinda decent. Sure the plot sucks. But if Arad is really gonna reboot the franchise with Paramount, I can live with this.
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Is this actually going to happen after X3? And by reboot, are we talking Superman-style reboot or just a new studio reboot? Since it would seem kind of weird to completely start over again after establishing what they have in X1 and X2 (and X3).
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Yeah, Cyclops is probably going to die from going 1-on-1 with the Cavity Creep and losing miserably. The guy can't even pick up a razor. WTF?!?!?
The trailer doesn't get me excited... mostly because of the rumored demise of Prof. X and Cyclops. Otherwise, Beast looks good... Angel looks promising, but he'll probably end up blowing Colossus like he would have on 6ft Under (just can't stand the actor because of that role), Storm should have been killed off, Juggernaut needs The Suit, and the music was weak. I have very low expectations for the film and may wait until DVD. -
...but I'm not loving Beast, not loving what you can see of Juggernaut. What's up with Vinnie Jones' torso? Anyway, having said that, I'll still be seeing this opening weekend, I'm sure. Besides... did I see a Cannonball Special in there?
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... I drink.
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What is this Cannonball Special?
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What is this Fastball Special?
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is when Colossus throws Wolverine at an enemy.
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Thanks. I was wondering how he lifted off at the end of the trailer.
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That sucker's going on my MySpace page. I'm sold. What the hell was Bryan thinking? He abandoned the movie series that brought us the live action Magneto and Logan to revive the Superman franchise that gave us Otis and Miss Tessmacher... not to mention Nuclear Man and BRICK VISION.
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Not really. As comic readers we all knew she was coming back, but, how about a little surprise for the general public, OR, making it the point of the trailer? Now it seems confusing or inevitable. Juggernaut has funny abs.
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Wait, why is he wearing a half shirt in the first place?!? Can't someone llok at a daily and be like "Oh yeah, that looks like shit."
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So far, it looks like Ratner might win this one. All Singer had to do was give a good teaser. With some dialogue. Or something. Also, I'm not even completely sold on the Superman Returns title. It seems kind of weird that DC'll use the same suffix as one of their Batman films. And I've yet to see an actually SUPERMAN RETURNS logo. Just the Superman logo with Returns 2006 written after it.
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Dec 05, 2005 9:29:55 PM CST
As far as Beast goes, doesn't he remind you of the aliens fr
by shermdawg
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But I see more spinning than a fuckin ice skating competition.Leave that bullshit for the Charlies Angels movies. But if Ratner shows team battles all will be forgiven.
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...can't really hate on it. All they can do is complain about the look of Beast and Jugs (just like they did with Mystique and Nightcrawler in X1 and X2). Also, love the way they are tying everything together. The scene where Jean wakes up and grabs Logan's hand is the exact reverse of the scene in X1. Have nothing but positive feelings about this. As far as the script, no one has any idea of how it ends and if those people who "die" are really dead at the end of the movie. Remember, the "reviewer" of the script here on ACIN hadn't even read that last half.
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... the ACIN Hater complaints about Storm spinning. First the movies suck because she doesn't fly. Now she doesn't "fly right." So sad.
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Dec 05, 2005 9:48:31 PM CST
And you guys call yourselves Comics Geeks... well some of you
by justice41
Juggernaut is the Ultimate version as is all the X-men. here's a pic of Juggy that looks just like Juggy in the trailer
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Watch Juggernaut as he's being pushed back by the winds.
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I thought it was another car but I watched the trailer again and it looked like a huge foot and I got excited. But maybe it was just some metal slamming down but still we all know what I was hoping for.
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I can understand the need to provide "drama" or "emotional depth" - maybe even eliminate some characters to make way for new ones - but why would you pick Professor X? Kill Storm. Halle Berry obviously isn't motivated by this. Professor X (not Cyclops) is the X-Men. The name alone should keep in the ranks of the living, not to mention Stewart is utterly fantastic in the role.
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Yup, the 1st thing I thought of when I saw Storm & The X-kids walking down the hallway was Ultimate X-Men. Which is cool by me. This film looks like it will have more action and the X-Men actually using their powers as a team then the Singer films. The only thing that ruins this is them killing Scott, Prof X, Magneto and Jean. That's so left field and silly if you ask me. It takes the franchise into this whole
elseworlds realm where it will be dismissed by hardcore X-Men fans the same way Superman fans are probably going to hate the Lois Lane has a kid(who secretly is Superman's kid from when they knocked boots in the Fortress of Solitude) plot device. I have high hopes for both films but damn if the Rat isn't bringin' it. Maybe this is a pissing match because he was supposed to get Superman and lost it. Ironically taking Singer's X-Men films and burrying them spectacle wise while Singer and friends are somewhere shooting bumbling wig wearing Luthor. On another note, any of you who've watched this trailer more than a few times have probably figured this out already but just in case, That set up of the X-Men fighting around all the rubble is THE DANGER ROOM. That's why wolverine looks all calm in one of the shots like he's just walked in on a training exercise. And the shot in the beginning of them walking with Kitty looking like she's pulling wedgie or something is them coming out of it. Watch it again. -
Dec 05, 2005 11:08:39 PM CST
No one dies. Remember Phoenix will resurrect both X and Cyke
by justice41
After all X can leave his body and inhabit other bodies. Maybe Beast is working on a clone. Seriously though Phoenix doesn't destroy Cyke and X she consumes them. She feeds off them so I would suspect she can also expel them. The funeral is for Phoenix and I would expect the prof and cyke are 1, either hurt or Cyke leaves like he did in the comics.2 prof X is in another coma.
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I was turned off by the crappy editing and music. What kind of crap is this?
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No really, he looks gay. Color his costume black and it just screams leather daddy.
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I'm going nuts! I endured the shit that was Access Hollywood (As of now, I've never hated a tv personality more than Billy Bush) to see the snippet of the trailer. Now I want the whole thing. Emphasis on NOW. Losing it.....
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1. Juggernaut's suit for example looks like he's going to some S&M Club. 2. Too many mutants onscreen could either hurt or make the movie better if done right.
3. Kelsey Grammer as Beast looks great but I do agree that this whole "blue person" in every movie is getting old fast. I really wanted Gambit and Beast, not Angel, but whatever I guess. I mean frankly you had your best option with Sawyer from "LOST" as Gambit and hell if Jackman got tired of playing Wolvie, where there is your backup Wolvie right there for cartoons or live-action movies and television shows.
5. Lastly, the whole student body of X-People vs. The Brotherhood of Mutants seems like an episode out of that Kid's WB show that was on a couple of years ago.
But all in all I liked most of it. It's really showcasing alot of what made/make the X-MEN so enjoyable to watch because of their uncanny abilities and amazing feats. If Ratner can bring a exciting and emotional conclusion to this franchise than great, but I still think a more satisfying ending would be keeping Professor X & Cyclops alive for the 4th and final movie against The Sentinels if they decided to do a 4th movie. We need The Sentinels, Mr. Sinister, The Blob, Apocolypse, Gambit, Emma Frost, and those kinds of people. I WANT THEM ONSCREEN DAMN IT!
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i just keep saying that hoping it's true. has anyone thought that maybe the funeral scene is at the begining of the movie showing the x-men gathering to honor jean. even former x-man beast shows up (in the first film prof said scott, jean, and ororo were SOME of his first students). cyke and wolvie aren't present because they are up at alkalai lake looking for her. and the prof...well...crap. never mind, that doesn't hold up. yeah, everyone dies.
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That if this flick does better box office than the 1st two then there will sure as all hell be a fourth X-Men movie. They've got a whole new team of Uncanny X-Babies, Beast, and Storm and I sure whether Avi takes his toys to Paramount or not that they're not going let Fox monopolize Wolverine. If this movie makes as much as FF then there will be a 4th X-Men movie. Thanks to the Potter franchise and other variables ongoing franchises are never out of the question.
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If they've got sleeveless leatherboy Colossus and Gay Dungeon Master Juggernaut walking around with no sleeves why they hell couldn't they retool Logan's costume to be short sleeved with the shoulder pads. I mean the guy has a fucking healing factor so why the hell does he need a full body protectant suit. Whiney fanboy bitching ended.
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do you ACTUALLY think that looks like the juggs in the movie? i don't. they both have straps, but if movie juggs looked ANYTHING like that pic, i'd love him. the helmet and the size man, the helmet and the size. besides, the "ultimate" x-men are not the real x-men, and they were created in response to the movie in the first place. to say the movie looks like the ultimate, well, actually, it's the ultimate that looks like the movie. ***Ultimate X-Men # 1 Issue Date:February 2001 X-Men the movie Release Date: May 2000***
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ratner forgot we fanboys like big jugs, and the ol' jugs just ain't as big as we like 'em. but for real, juggernaut is the part that craps this trailer up for me. and not the suit so much as the helmet. and no matter what you guys say the helmet is not the same as any version from the comics. you see way too much of his face. but whatever. i think beast looks great, even more so since i've watched it probably like thirty times by now. and i want to know what moron says they can see the name (or names) on that grave marker. that's insane. it's impossible i spent fifteen minutes trying it. and isn't callisto supposed to be really hideous or something? thumbs up for angel also.
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that trailer looked fucking amazing to me. Looks like Ratner went and made a balls to the wall action movie. I say 'hell yes' to that.
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x-men the movie was released in JULY of 2000. i remember opening weekend well. it was the moment my girlfriend realized what a huge comic book geek i actually was.
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The versions of almost all the x-characters are closer to the Ultimates versions than the originals. Who cares if Juggernaut isn't a 10 foot tall tank. What you want another Hulk fiasco? get oevr it either like it or don't but nothings going to be changed so whining won't work, it just makes you look and sound like a two year old girl.
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It probably took Millar and boys at least two years to concieve and create the Ultimate versions of the X and Avengers.
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got it working. Gotta say, I'm liking the look of this, darker tones, more action. Even the music was kinda cool. After some freeze framing, I could see - oh yeah, SPOILERS! - Jean with Magneto, guess that's the Dark Phoenix part. I see Pyro, Juggernaut and the two actresses that are supposed to be Stacy X (similar to comics. and it looks like she's the one Storm punches out with the twister) and Callisto (major reimagining = check out her picture on the official site). There's also an Asian guy and a dark haired guy up there. Any guesses? Madrox, Forge, Avalanche? Mystique is noticably absent in that scene, guess she's busy jumping rope in prison. The kid hugging Storm is the creepy Birth/Godsend kid playing Leech. And the kid flying the paper airplanes is Artie, the forked tongue kid (again, reimagined) from X2 a bit older. Who's the woman sitting to Beast's right at the funeral? I can't tell if that's Olivia Williams, who's supposed to play Moira McTaggert. Anyway, I'm officially psyched. I think Harry might have to get used to the taste of Angel-flavored crow feathers here.
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They're obviously skipping the whole gem of Cyttorak thing and wisely just making him a mutant. I'm guessing the helmet is a Magneto special, since Xavier will have more of a connection to Jugs and want to mindread him. Some things just have to change if you want a coherent movie.
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Best = Angel, Good = Beast, OK = Storm's hair, Bad = Twirly bird Storm, Really bad = funerals for characters that should not die, Worst = the score (I hope it just a temp track for the trailer).
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Dec 06, 2005 1:24:33 AM CST
Oh, and the bad Juggs design goes in with "Bad" with the twirly
by nachokoolaid
It could have been worse. I like the area around the neck, with the bolts and stuff, but some of it looks pretty fake. I hope there's some CG enhancement. And Beast's arms should have been longer. Oh, and in that shot where Magneto is walking straight at the camera with his clan, is that Gambit to the far left of the screen? He's the tallest one with a trenchcoat. Eh, I'm probably delusional, but if so, I called it first. Overall score for trailer = B.
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but hank is my favorite character, and i really cannot deal with the way he looks. it's tv movie bad.
whoever said that we should first see beast hanging upside down with his glasses on was 100% on the money.
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Go to the main site (which is really shitty I might add) Click on the gallery. That pic is a little better. Still I get the vibe Ratner can't process that Beast is not the dude from Beauty and they Beast dibbed in blue. If I see a Hellboy ripoff where he says something like, "if I only didn't have this face" then all the sexy shots Of Selma in the world won't get me to see a Ratner movie in the theater again... assuming I see this one... Peace.
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And then there's the 9 months gestation in the womb as the fetus develops... _______________ Dude, seriously, you think comic designs and pre-sketches take that long to develop? Even if they did, how much LONGER do you think it took the concept artists for the first X-men movie before they even started casting actors, or setting budgets for all those stage sets and costumes??? There's a lot more riding on a multi-million dollar project than there is on a 24pg publication, and more often alot more time on pre-lim layouts. And by the way, you might have a little more credibility if you could at least list the name of the ARTIST who did the Ultimates designs: Bryan Hitch. I swear Millar gets all the credit despite Hitch making his writing look good. Man, that's like the SW fans who claim Lucas is the 'visionary' of the films, when really all he did was say "yes" or "no" to the countless designs that got used or chucked.
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thanks neosam, but it's still pretty rough.
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Sleeveless leather? Well, I guess his arms metal up when he transforms. Still, I can hope....
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But movies with great teasers have sucked before. There is always the Rattner-Factor
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Dec 06, 2005 4:26:25 PM CST
Oh-God. If any of you defend this. If any of you start making ex
by tophat
You will all have a warm cozy spot in heck. HECK!! - p.s. Harry and co. will approve of this film upon seeing it and do everything mentioned in topic.
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This movie hasn't given us any reason to assume it's going to be a disaster yet. Those of you who already cast judgement before seeing the film fail to realizes the weight of your opinions diminish when you do so. Brian Singer's first two films are far from perfect. You guys ever have anything new to say? -Az
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