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This 'Devil' & 'Hell' Director has just earned his HALO!

Hey folks, Harry here... The news hit IESB early in the pre-dawn hours of today, but it's news I've been waiting on for over a month now to break. I suppose if Peter Jackson is publicly talking about it, it's fine. Last I heard, Guillermo Del Toro was leaving about 2 weeks ago to meet with Peter in Wellington to talk about HALO. Universal and Peter Jackson have been courting Del Toro for over two months now. As of now, I haven't heard if Guillermo is officially signed yet, but he's probably pretty darn close. There were two stumbling blocks that could possibly dislodge the deal. #1 - Guillermo had to like PETER JACKSON - whom he hadn't really met yet. I told Guillermo that he'd end up marrying Peter Jackson, as the only people that seem to dislike Peter are idiot Talkbackers that hate all rotund people. Even if Peter is no longer of that "caste" system. And #2 - Had to do with HELLBOY 2. Guillermo loves HELLBOY, like you love your porn. There had been a third stumbling block - they wanted to have Guillermo start shooting in like March, but Guillermo wants to be available to support the release of his latest gothic fairy tale. They moved the start date back to June to accomadate him. SO - I would say - the only thing that could stop HALO from happening under his direction - would be HELLBOY 2. Personally, I really hope this happens. Why? #1 - Guillermo hooking up with Weta and Peter Jackson is a very very good thing, and could be the start of a relationship that could eventually pay Lovecraft dividends with IN THE MOUNTAINS OF MADNESS that must must must be made with WETA! So for now, consider this a confirmed rumor that Guillermo is at the very least in serious talks, that are very very close to being finalized. I guess I should find out what HALO is.

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  • Dec. 2, 2005, 5:35 p.m. CST

    So his fall begins?

    by SalvatoreGravano

    Come on, it's the odium of a "game to movie" project. That's a curse.

  • Dec. 2, 2005, 5:37 p.m. CST

    What Halo is? I'll tell you; it's an overrated boring FP

    by IAmJack'sUserID

    Get a real FPS noob!!!!1

  • Dec. 2, 2005, 5:38 p.m. CST


    by The Shyster

    Hey nobody stays on top forever... but even Spielberg has a few flops under his producing credits belt, so Pete could shake it off like fleas.

  • Dec. 2, 2005, 5:41 p.m. CST

    But del Toro & WETA does sound promising...

    by The Shyster

    for Hellboy II, natch.

  • Dec. 2, 2005, 5:43 p.m. CST


    by blackwood

    I couldn't give a shit about Halo, but I'm all about a new Del Toro flick. Blade 2 is my favorite vampire-cum-greek-tragedy-slash-wrestling-ninjas movie ever.

  • Dec. 2, 2005, 5:47 p.m. CST

    Del Toro is a good director.

    by Ben Hawkins

    He would probably do a good job with Halo but i'd rather see a Hellboy II.

  • Dec. 2, 2005, 5:50 p.m. CST

    Half Life 2 Fucking Rocks!!!!!

    by vinceklortho

    Sorry, had to be one of the first to rock that out on a Halo talkback. I don't even know what half life 2 is...anyway, this is interesting news. People are going to bag on this movie for a long time until some footage will be released. I think it could be interesting, but a movie of Halo? It's pretty the game already.

  • Dec. 2, 2005, 5:51 p.m. CST


    by Cottonwood

    This'll work, mos def. It's not the game that makes it, it's the Garland script that'll be the drive for Del Toro. I'm for it.

  • Dec. 2, 2005, 5:51 p.m. CST

    Round And Round

    by BigSugar

    I like del Toro, but I have to say I think HALO is a bit of an odd move. I know it's a flagship game, but if you step back and remove the interactive elements from the story, it's not a very good tale, and I think del Toro aims higher than that when he works. Maybe they can punch the shit out of the script and make a hard-core flick. I hope so.

  • Dec. 2, 2005, 5:52 p.m. CST

    Don't do it, Guillermo

    by Vern

    Hey bud remember me, Vern, national treasure. Look, Peter Jackson seems like a nice guy. He did Bad Taste. You guys should hang out. But a responsible parent has to take care of his babies. You can't just let them wander off before they're fully grown. I don't know if you remember this but there was a young man by the name of Blade. You said you would've liked to do part 3 but you had to do Hellboy first. And what happened? Blade started hanging out with a bad crowd, a bunch of wisecracking white kids. He didn't get to do much, he let the white kids defeat Dracula and then he drove off at the end and was never seen again. Now Hellboy is at that tender age in a young man's life and he's not going anywhere without his papa. We all know Hellboy 2 is gonna be better than part 1 because you can skip over all that bullshit about explaining who Hellboy is and just get down to business. Like Blade 2. So all I'm saying bud is do Hellboy 2, then if you MUST do some laser gun space movie for the nerds then you can do it. BUT BE A MAN first. Take care of your business. Blood is thicker than video games. Thanks Guillermo. your friend Vern.

  • Dec. 2, 2005, 5:53 p.m. CST


    by Obscura

    i LOVED his work on Blade 2, easily the best of all the Blade films (tho i think my cat could have made a better 3rd film) Hellboy didnt quite grab me as much, maybe because im not a fan of the comic. Halo is a strange concept for a film really... the lead character has no real relationships with anyone except the voice in his head and you never see his face.... unless its just 2 hours of futuristic war, they're going to have to add a lot of 'stuff'. Personally id love to see Jackson and Del Toro get their hands on something meatier, like Half life.

  • Dec. 2, 2005, 5:54 p.m. CST

    Sheesh Harry...

    by Neosamurai85

    I can't tell if you've got a bug up your ass today or if you think it's cool to diss all the talkbackers. Between this and the Flux review... I mean, just because we didn't all go down on Kevin Smith, doesn't mean that we all were little flamming bitchs for you to scrape your boot on. I'm tired. Peace.

  • Dec. 2, 2005, 5:59 p.m. CST

    I'm kind of with Vern on this.

    by Neosamurai85

    Don't let anybody fuck with Hellboy 2. Still, Jackson and Del Toro need to hook up. Weta on HB2 and Mountains of Madness... (which I shall now lovingly call MOM) is a must. Peace.

  • Dec. 2, 2005, 6:01 p.m. CST

    Err...anyone remember Blade 2?

    by wolverines claw

    And for that matter Hellboy wasn't all that and a bag of chips. Now, Peter Jackson himself directing Halo would make me jizz all over my Xbox (and not the 360 to all the overpaid early adopters).

  • Dec. 2, 2005, 6:01 p.m. CST

    yay for Lovecraft..

    by kalibonejack

    man, Weta and Del Toro and HPL? as the l33t nerdz say ...w00t! I have Miskatonic University sticker on my window, after all. I have to see anything of this genre, it's required. As for all it did was make me a bit nauseous watching Kit play it. Ah well. Peace out!

  • Dec. 2, 2005, 6:04 p.m. CST


    by Nairb The Movie

    Now I only have one reason for seeing this movie...

  • Dec. 2, 2005, 6:06 p.m. CST


    by BCfreeB

    Hmmmmmm...Im a little behind the times. How did Peter Jackson get involved with the Halo movie?

  • Dec. 2, 2005, 6:07 p.m. CST

    Question for Halo Fans

    by Neosamurai85

    I've seen clips from the games but never really played them, but does this feel like a good thing to y'all? I mean, I love me some Del Toro, but this just dosn't seem like something for Del Toro. I've never seen anything from Halo that had a vibe that would make me jump up and scream "PERFECT CHOICE!" with him directing. But like I said, haven't played'em. So what do you guys think? Peace.

  • Dec. 2, 2005, 6:23 p.m. CST


    by Nachokoolaid

    Now we can get all the Jackson haters and Halo haters in one talkback. As for this, I think it's a great idea, and I hope it goes through.

  • Dec. 2, 2005, 6:26 p.m. CST


    by oscarmike

    yes Del Toro is a great choice. blade 2 was fucking solid and hellboy was great so all the naysayers can go fuck themselves.

  • Dec. 2, 2005, 6:26 p.m. CST

    Harry's got a chip on his shoulder about TBers

    by Citizen Arcane

    I guess he's aping Kevin Smith's condescending bullshit. You do realize that if this site didn't have a talk back, people would just get their movie news from Dark Horizons and their blatent advertisement from pop-ups, right?

  • Dec. 2, 2005, 6:29 p.m. CST

    Hellboy 2 can freaking wait

    by wash

    c'mon Guillermo, you and Peter together would be a match made in heaven. And fuck off Blade 2 haters, it was a fun movie, past the small nitpicks.

  • Dec. 2, 2005, 6:41 p.m. CST

    Good deal.

    by MasterWhedon

    Played Halo once at a friend's house and got killed a lot, but I dig the future war thing and I've really like what I've seen of Del Toro's stuff. And I now have complete faith in Jackson after seeing the new Kong TV spots. All Harry's hype seems to have been appropriate for this one.

  • Dec. 2, 2005, 6:43 p.m. CST

    I agree, but...

    by Neosamurai85

    Halo has a Hellboy vibe? You see what I'm saying? I really love Del Toro films. Devil's Backbone is excellent. I'm just trying to get my head around this. If there is any possibilty that he might take this and leave Hellboy 2 to another director. Someone is going to have to break this down before I'm game. I think of the flavor of Del Toro's action and I think epic, but more one on one, more dance like. Halo feels like something for a follower of Cameron. Jackson would be perfect and perhaps with them teaming up it will work. Not trying to naysay, but I'm getting an Alien Reserrection vibe... in the sense that he's a good director who makes films I love, but he's almost out of his element in a film where his isims don't fit. That's the vibe, but perhaps a gamer can give me some examples of Del Toroisims in Halo or something. Peace.

  • Dec. 2, 2005, 6:52 p.m. CST


    by fiester

    That would be the shit! I would love to see Jackson do a Lovecraft Trilogy set as a period piece like his Kong. And Guillermo Del Toro is a fantastic director. Why wouldn't the two of them hit it off like old chums? This is all good news, good directors, good stories, etc. You'll find no negativity here from me. Jackson has replaced Spielberg as the most visionary and creative "big movie" director working today.

  • Dec. 2, 2005, 6:54 p.m. CST

    he should stick with Hellboy

    by Screaming Brain

    I love Halo and PJ as much as the next guy but Del Toro would do much better working on something he's obviously really passionate about. Halo is THE reason i even bought an xbox. It has a great story and would definately make one hell of a movie and i know WETA will do an incredible job with it... but there's other guys out there that could do it some justice without taking Del Toro away from Hellboy 2.

  • Dec. 2, 2005, 6:57 p.m. CST

    Halo story

    by Zoviet Squid

    I've recently started playing it JUST to see what the story is like, and I'm befuddled. Why make this movie? I guess as a previously-winning formula for the business half of the hollywood brain, yeah, but the story line is no different from your average futuristic mankind-is-threatened so we must find the deus-ex-machina uberweapon that is our only hope against a xenophobic alien race plot. Television sci-fi has been leg-humping this plot repeatedly for decades to series-cancelling effect. It's an enjoyable game, but unless there's more to the story later through it, I'm not so sure. I'm actually gunning for a script that ISN'T faithful to the game.

  • Dec. 2, 2005, 6:58 p.m. CST

    Del Toro is a very safe choice...

    by El Scorcho

    While I don't think he is capable of making the movie to end all movies, he will at least make the movie watchable. Blade 2 was fun and Hellboy was OK if a little slow. If this news is true, you Halo fanboys can stop worrying about your "beloved" game being turned into a shitty movie; at the very least it will be OK.

  • Dec. 2, 2005, 7 p.m. CST

    Stupid and Pointless game

    by jimmy_009

    This movie will likely be the same.

  • Dec. 2, 2005, 7:07 p.m. CST

    Halo is the dumbest idea for a movie ever.

    by Josh Town

    Does this game even have a story to it. Here's my Halo script: A bunch of dudes get together, drink a lot of beer and eat pizza. Than they grab their controllers and have 72 death matches in a row using only rocket launchers. They go home with a massive headache and realize they wasted their day staring at a television screen. They throw up, jerk off, and go to bed. The end. Direct that Del Toro!

  • Dec. 2, 2005, 7:13 p.m. CST

    Del Toro seems like a good choice

    by Nachokoolaid

    because he can do horror, and make it fun. And for those that know the Halo story, you know there are some horror elements. He also has a good sense of humor. I can't really think of anyone I'd rather have direct than Del Toro actually, unless PJ were to get behind the camera himself, of course.

  • it would be better to come up with an original story that had nothing to do with Halo. That way, you'd get a bigger audience wanting to go see it. the Halo fanbase is pretty small and most other people will be put off hoing to see it.

  • Dec. 2, 2005, 7:17 p.m. CST

    Hellboy won me over hard when...

    by Neosamurai85

    They introduced Ron lifting weights with "Heartattack and Vine" by Tom Waits in the background. The person that thought that up... mad props. Peace.

  • Dec. 2, 2005, 7:24 p.m. CST

    maybe Jackson can help Del Toro lose some weight

    by jrbarker

    and then Harry can't feel his obesity is vaildated by respected film makers.

  • Dec. 2, 2005, 7:31 p.m. CST


    by abesapien

    Guillermo you have to stick with Hellboy. I'm not sure if there's anybody else out there who can do Hellboy with as much love and care as you can. I love what you did with the first movie and want to see you continue. If you do push the film back for Halo that'll mean a long time before any of us Hellboy fans see another film. I really do hope it's your next film. Can't wait to see Hellboy, Abe and Liz back for another adventure- Del Toro style!!!

  • Dec. 2, 2005, 7:32 p.m. CST


    by jig98

    don't give it to him. running for president was bad enough.

  • Dec. 2, 2005, 7:35 p.m. CST

    Guillermo is the new Uwe

    by _Kayser_

    Might as well had McG direct it and consider it DOA. It will suck big time. Halo is a second rate FPS anyways.

  • Dec. 2, 2005, 7:48 p.m. CST

    Match made in heaven.

    by bioforge

    Damn! They could go and remake Gigli and I would still go and see it.Love the idea of these two working on Halo.

  • Dec. 2, 2005, 7:52 p.m. CST

    You know... when your name is ZombiePatMorita, it's hard to

    by Neosamurai85

    Del Toro is, as you say, the fat one. Peace.

  • Perhaps Jackson&co saw something in the story that they liked. But seriously, an overated mindless shoot em up game for a film? why? And the aliens look and sound stupid! like fraggle rock characters or some crap. \

  • Dec. 2, 2005, 8:03 p.m. CST

    DATELINE - Kong Special Tonight!

    by Orionsangels

    HALO = DOOM, lol

  • Dec. 2, 2005, 8:03 p.m. CST

    Dude... don't fucking diss da Fraggle!

    by Neosamurai85

    I hear ya, but respect the Fraggle! Peace.

  • Dec. 2, 2005, 8:03 p.m. CST

    Hopefully Del Toro is as passionate about Halo as Garland...

    by Rindain

    I hope that Del Toro, like the screenwriter Alex Garland, is a Halo fan. If so, then this could be a kind of HALO dream team (Jackson, Garland, Del Toro).

  • Dec. 2, 2005, 8:09 p.m. CST

    F Halo

    by reckni

    So many video games have translated well to the big screen.

  • Dec. 2, 2005, 8:25 p.m. CST


    by MachinaMan

    Anything Guillermo Del Toro touches is gold, so I can't imagine him doing a David Goyer on Halo (or anything else for that matter), so it's all good. He should finish Hellboy though. That's a labor of love for him, and you should never neglect the things that you love.

  • Dec. 2, 2005, 8:26 p.m. CST


    by Josh Town

    You guys have way too much hate in your life. I agree that Halo is a terrible idea for a movie, but calling the game "second rate" is ridiculous. You know, just because something is mainstream and well liked doen't mean it sucks. Enjoy things, stop looking for problems. You'll thank me someday.

  • Dec. 2, 2005, 8:30 p.m. CST

    I liked Blade 2 more than Hellboy

    by The Outlander

    and The Devil's Backbone is by far Del Torro's best movie. I'm now realy looking forward to Halo.

  • Dec. 2, 2005, 8:36 p.m. CST

    You know how I knew this?

    by Cash Bailey

    Watching the spider pit sequence on the KONG dvd I noticed in the display cabinet behind PJ was the Sideshow sculpt of Santi and the bomb from THE DEVIL'S BACKBONE. I saw it and thought "Oh, PJ must be a fan of Del Toro." My next thought was "Who does Harry know well enough to claim that he knows the director's in New Zealand?" 1+1= El Gordito!!

  • Dec. 2, 2005, 8:48 p.m. CST

    Stephen Sommers owns your life

    by AlwaysThere

    Book it.

  • Dec. 2, 2005, 9:07 p.m. CST

    Really, EvilWhiteMan? Doesn't hold up a few years after the

    by christonomist

    A few years after... 2004?!?!? Then you must be posting from... the FUTURE!!! Wow!!! Coolest post ever!!!

  • Dec. 2, 2005, 9:21 p.m. CST

    Oh please god let Hellboy 2 get in the way, so this hack can&#39

    by vikingkitty

  • Dec. 2, 2005, 9:24 p.m. CST

    Half Life 2 doesn't need a movie, numb nuts.

    by kintar0

    It's enough of an interactive film as it is. Giving Gordon Freeman a voice would be like showing Master Chief's face. Nor does Halo, for that matter. But Halo does have a pretty wide mass appeal and both games have made a ton of money. Did anyone stand in line for a Half Life 2 midnight sale?

  • Dec. 2, 2005, 9:38 p.m. CST

    Oh Jesus

    by DorkmanScott

    Now we're going to get Harry comparing Halo to a massive cock-ring and other unnecessary sexual comparisons when he reviews the film. Don't get me wrong, I'm looking forward to the flick, and if Del Toro directs with Jackson producing the odds of suckage are exponentially decreased from whatever they may have been. I just hope Harry can review with some professionalism. At least we'll be sure to get plenty of updates.

  • Dec. 2, 2005, 9:54 p.m. CST

    Half Life 2 owns Halo

    by white owl

    all hail the Freeman!

  • Dec. 2, 2005, 10:35 p.m. CST

    Peter Jackson OWNS Stephen Sommers

    by ZombiKiller86

    Sommers is a hack.

  • Dec. 2, 2005, 10:44 p.m. CST

    Are You People Seriously Signing on for Del Torro?

    by DumbPunter

    Ok, now don't get me wrong. I think he is a good director when he's in his element, doing something he loves. Blade 2 was entertaining, Hellboy was strong, and had some great personal moments to balance the action. HOWEVER, both movies were marred by bad casting, and WORST of all because it could carry over to Halo, Del Torro seems to go with a cheesy lighting and production style with the genre that looks rather cheap and synthetic, no matter how strong and interesting his character interactions are. Additionally, I cannot see him achieving the epic scope required to make an arguably mundane Halo story into something resonant and powerful. He is good at what he does, I'm excited for Hellboy 2, but he is no Peter Jackson. He is no Ridley Scott. Hell, if I had my way, I'd have the studio go for Matthew Vaughn, woo him back into a big tentpole flick after he departed from X-Men 3. He has the gritty style and connection to cold, but intense, character types (assuming thats where they take the faceless Master Chief). Basically, the only way I could see Del Torro delivering an appropriate vision of the material is if he returned to the washed out style of Devil's Backbone (Which kicked ass), treating the story like something epically tragic. Anyway, thats my rant. Keep Del Toro on short reins or we're going to get a poorly lit, synthetically surreal 2 hours that will do nothing to break from the trend of shitty game-to-film adaptations. There ya' have it!

  • Dec. 2, 2005, 10:55 p.m. CST

    Halo is the single most overrated POS game ever!

    by Svperstar

    God I hate stupid Halo fans that are like "You can run around and shoot other people, and even play with like 15 other people, isn't that AMAZING?!?!?!" Um, Yeah. We PC gamers have been doing that since like 1994! While these people were still hoping around in Super Mario World PC gamers were enjoying Internet Deathmatch. On the PC where it originally started Halo would have been just another decent shooter. Put it on the console and ignorant kids are like "OMG THIS IS SO NEW AND DIFFERENT OMG OMG OMG" Game sucks. Play a REAL FPS on the PC!

  • Dec. 2, 2005, 11:15 p.m. CST

    Here are the facts...

    by Snow Is Fun

    1. Halo is a good game, gameplay-wise. Storywise, it is severly lacking. 2. Halo 2 is a merely decent game. The increased focus on a subpar story is certainly not welcome, and the game just doesn't feel as good as the first. 3. Hellboy was really good. It was a well-cast and and well-directed movie with an interesting story. 4. No one is better at epic, largescale battles than Peter Jackson and WETA. 5. If Halo must be made into a movie, anyone would be hard-pressed to find a better team to handle it. 6. Everything I've said is true.

  • Dec. 2, 2005, 11:37 p.m. CST

    I was disapointed with Hellboy

    by oducerproducer

    But I like Del Toro

  • Dec. 3, 2005, 12:38 a.m. CST

    Oh Hell No

    by IAmLegolas

    I would much rather see HELLBOY 2 and IN THE MOUNTAINS OF MADNESS ASAP then friggin' HALO, get someone else for the job.

  • Dec. 3, 2005, 2:02 a.m. CST

    I don'T care about Halo...

    by DerLanghaarige

    ...but a fucking-big-budget-Sci-Fi-Action-film, produced by Peter Jackson and directed by Guillermo del Toro is sounds suh-weet!

  • Dec. 3, 2005, 2:08 a.m. CST

    Another reason why he must do Hellboy 2

    by Bryan

    Hellboy with Mike Mignola is basically over. He has decided to have the actual storyline (not just the spinoff books) drawn by a different artist. The reason this is happening, as I understand it, is because he is focusing on writing and designing for Hellboy 2. The cartoon series will hopefully be good too, but it is also not going to be in the Mignola style, because for some insane reason he asked for it not to be. If Del Toro abandons the movie, I guess maybe Mignola would consider coming back to the comic book, but I'm not sure if he plans to or not. It will be a shame if we have half-Mignola comics, not-Mignola cartoon, and not even a Hellboy 2 to show for it. In other news, I am a whiner.

  • Dec. 3, 2005, 2:57 a.m. CST

    Okay, so I don't like video game movies in general

    by moviemaniac-7

    Although I did like Doom a bit. Nothing more than stupid fun. On the other hand, this team-up and the reviews I've read so far of Garland's script sound promising.

  • Dec. 3, 2005, 3:41 a.m. CST

    Ron Perlman as Lord Hood

    by bryce

    I don't know if they plan to redo the story of the first game, but if they don't Hellboy himself could have a part as Lord Hood, the character whose voice he provides in Halo 2.

  • Dec. 3, 2005, 3:49 a.m. CST

    Michael Beihn for Master Chief.....

    by Monkey_King

    Del Toro and Jackson could be amazing together. They look like they could be brothers(cousins, maybe).

  • Dec. 3, 2005, 4:31 a.m. CST

    Del Toro is only doing it to earn Hollywood credibility for his

    by godoffireinhell

    He couldn't have made his HELLBOY if he hadn't delivered a successful BLADE 2 first and the only reason he did BLAD 2 was as an audition for HELLBOY. I guess his reasoning to do this HALO is a similar one. Right now, nobody wants to give him the money to do a big budget MOUNTAINS OF MADNESS movie or a big budget LIST OF 7. But after HALO that should be different. That - and only that - is why I sort of approve of this.

  • Dec. 3, 2005, 4:49 a.m. CST

    when are we getting a WoW movie?

    by Krangelus

    i want a warcraft movie.

  • Dec. 3, 2005, 4:59 a.m. CST

    This is GOOD NEWS for EVERYONE

    by Killah_Mate

    This is IMPORTANT, people! It doesn't matter what you may think of HALO, if this works out it will be the FIRST ACTUALLY GOOD VIDEO GAME MOVIE EVER! Who gives a shit if the game is good or not? If this works it will be the "X-Men" of video game movies, the one that opened the gate! Do you think "X-Men" (1) is the best comic book movie out there? No! Do you think there would be other big and good ones without it? NO! ALL OF YOU ASSHOLES THAT WANT A HALF-LIFE 2 (or Starcraft, Splinter Cell, Duke Nukem, whatever) MOVIE SHOULD BE FUCKING ECSTATIC ABOUT HALO! Buy three tickets come opening day, 'cause that's The Freeman you're paying for! USE YOUR FUCKING HEADS, PEOPLE! (P.S. Checklist: Jackson is a demigod, Del Toro is an Old One, Blade II is awesome, so is Splinter Cell :-) and WETA, Hellboy is great, X-Men 2 and Half-Life (1/2) are quite cool, and Halo is mediocre. So there.)

  • Dec. 3, 2005, 5:55 a.m. CST

    Rubbish choice.

    by kiddae

    Hope Del Toro sticks with Hellboy, because he could not handle Halo (given that he couldn't handle Blade 2 or Hellboy).

  • Dec. 3, 2005, 6:03 a.m. CST

    Oh look, it's another "I knew this before anyone but I could

    by LeiaDown&FuckHer

    I mean is that getting old or what? Fact is this site doesn't seem to have broken any actual news in months, all it's been doing is rounding up everyone elses news and representing it (and usually quite late to boot). Also, when most people post news from other sources they usually post a link back to the original as a courtesy. Anyone else get the feeling as they're moving on to "bigger and better things" that the site is being treated as less and less important, and no longer any kind of a priority? If it wasn't for talkback (which was a great gimmick to draw the crowds) I think there'd be a huge drop off on hits by now.

  • Dec. 3, 2005, 6:30 a.m. CST

    I agree with LeiaDown&FuckHer

    by DigitalDong

    first...great name. second... you're right. Talkback is fun, if it weren;t for all the assholes in it this site would suck.

  • Dec. 3, 2005, 8:48 a.m. CST

    Do we really want a string of video game movies?

    by Citizen Arcane

    We do? Really? No shit. Ok.

  • Dec. 3, 2005, 9:16 a.m. CST


    by Killah_Mate

    If it's a string of *good* video game movies - why not? Doom was shit because Doom the game has a shit story. Just like Mortal Kombat, Bloodrayne, etc. I, for one, would pay good money to see a well done Grim Fandango movie. Or Homeworld. Or Thief. Or - dear God, a good Planescape: Torment movie. Or any one of Infocom's golden oldies (though I doubt that one).

  • Dec. 3, 2005, 9:25 a.m. CST


    by Neosamurai85

    I think it was called THE LORD OF THE RINGS. However, I've yet to forgive Jackson for cutting the Pion poking bit from the story... or the exploding sheep. Peace.

  • Dec. 3, 2005, 9:27 a.m. CST

    Goldeneye is still the best FPS

    by Indiana Clones

    That is all.

  • Dec. 3, 2005, 9:28 a.m. CST

    Game adaptations suck because...

    by Killah_Mate

    ...Hollywood in general knows fuck all about games. They know about Doom, which sold a lot and is retarded. That doesn't stop it from being a (potentially) good game, but it stops it from being a good movie. They know about Mortal Kombat because it's "controversial" and popular. They DON'T know about Homeworld, Torment or Grim Fandango because they are mature games for mature audiences, which also means that they have a good storyline, and that Hollywood execs will never be interested in them, because they are pathologically incapable of comprehending the concept of "mature". They want shiny toys and boobies, and Uwe Boll gives them that. In other news, people suck. Hollywood people especially so.

  • Dec. 3, 2005, 9:45 a.m. CST

    They want shiny toys and boobies, and Uwe Boll gives them that.

    by Neosamurai85

    Uwe Boll gives boobies?

  • Dec. 3, 2005, 9:48 a.m. CST

    Oh wait...

    by Neosamurai85

    I guess you mean Bloodrayne... which I didn't see... because I learn... However, I did notice a bit of a man rack had developed after my last outing with the Germen Anderson. But those were pretty self destructive days... thus the watching of Boll films. Peace.

  • Dec. 3, 2005, 9:50 a.m. CST

    Guillermo is good...

    by ALUCINOR11

    Since I seem to be one of the few who actually played halo and is deeply involved with the whole mythology of the series I dunno if he is the right director for the job. This movie needs a heavy hitter director. Say what you will about video game movies and how they all suck. The source material is never the problem it has always been the non talented filmmakers behind them that make them fail. That or the lack of heart behind the project. Regardless, Halo is not some little movie that will be made for 20 million to make a quick profit, it is going to be huge. Guillermo very well might be an awesome choice for director but I would feel much safer with someone that has experience in epic movies. Blade 2 is not the best Blade or even a great movie by any means. Hellboy is really good but also not spectacular. Halo needs to knock it out of the park to show that it's not the videogames that translate poorly into movies, it's the people behind them making them awful. How many more movies made by Paul w.s. Anderson or Uwe Boll need to be made before people realize they are the very reason video game adaptations fail? I am also concerned about who will be doing the music because if Guillermo uses marco beltrami to do the score it would be a mistake. I genuinely hope they will at least get Marty O donnel to co-write the music for the movie. Well I certainly wish Peter Jackson would direct the movie himself but I can't have everything. I think Luc Besson might do a good job but that's just off the top of my head... Also Ryuhei Kitamura directing Metal Gear Solid is a perfect choice when you consider his background already with the franchise and it's creators.

  • Dec. 3, 2005, 10:02 a.m. CST

    ALUCINOR11 - the mythology issues

    by Killah_Mate

    I already said in a previous talkback that Halo's problem was never the backstory, which is very, very good. It's so good, in fact, that I would have actually preferred if they'd made a Marathon movie (especially M:Infinity), since any of those games in my opinion had better stories than Halo. But hey, maybe they'll manage to put some of that background in the movie. Fingers crossed.

  • Dec. 3, 2005, 10:31 a.m. CST

    As long as don't get a Puce Master Chief

    by DannyOcean01

    I wonder if Del Toro has realised there's more than one way to light a film. I don't need another vomit-like film from him.

  • Dec. 3, 2005, 11:43 a.m. CST

    Comic book movies used to be in the same state as video game mov

    by Terry_1978

    Well, they still are, but there have been a few beacons in the darkness. Hollywood has to start realizing that they can be taken seriously as some of the comic stories have been.

  • Dec. 3, 2005, 11:52 a.m. CST


    by Psalmolive

    Just think of the Dogma madness Von Trier could bring to the franchise, and make it for beyond a miniscule fraction of the cost! That would be exciting. Cause I can tell you, I don't need to see this HALO movie because I know exactly how its going to look. But with Von Trier, you never know what you're going to get visually, but in terms of performance and avant garde editing, it would bring vitality to it. It would also piss off all the fanboys, and HALO would be an art house masterpiece! Peter Jackson could get Jean-Luc Godard to Co-Produce it! I am DEAD SERIOUS!

  • Dec. 3, 2005, 11:57 a.m. CST

    Working together

    by Tsubame Gunkan

    It seems to me that Peter Jackson and WETA have a wealth of knowledge on how to light a scene as well as how to shoot a movie. Don't you think they would be dropping that knowledge on Del Toro and working together to shoot this movie properly?

  • Dec. 3, 2005, 12:48 p.m. CST

    DumbPunter -what are you talking about?

    by Nachokoolaid

    Bad casting? Bad? You better be talking about Blade 2, because Hellboy's casting couldn't have been more perfect if someone magically brought the pages to life. ***** And I'll say it again, Del Toro is a great choice because he can do action, horror, and humor well. Can anyone wait to see a JAckson/Del Toro-made horde of zombie marines over coming super soldiers and aliens? I can't.

  • Dec. 3, 2005, 12:53 p.m. CST

    Halo > the haters

    by Nachokoolaid

    And to all these whiny bitches complaining about Halo's story, do you really think that Garland and JAckson will put out something mediocre? And if Halo can't compare to other PC shooters, how come Halo for the PC was so popular, even though it wasn't quite as good as the Xbox version? I won't even bring up the record breaking sales. STFU.

  • Dec. 3, 2005, 1:07 p.m. CST

    Halo the 1st good video game movie???

    by Nachokoolaid

    As much as I like Halo, and as much as I think the story is great (unlike people that are just haters), I don't think it will be the first great video game film. What? Why? Not because it won't be good, but because SILENT HILL will beat it to theaters, and that is looking particularly awesome. Surprising, actually.

  • Dec. 3, 2005, 1:16 p.m. CST

    Yes, Nachokoolaid, we all know financial success is = to quality

    by IAmJack'sUserID

    Great logic, so STFU.

  • And if possible to get teh Eva moving up and running, please someone get the Wachowskis involved in some manner! That and I'm looking forward to Silent Hill!

  • Dec. 3, 2005, 2:42 p.m. CST

    Hey, IAmJackoff

    by Nachokoolaid

    Comparing games to beer. Yeah, that makes sense. All I'm saying is that Halo has a much better story than people acknowledge, and I think Garland and Jackson will actually improve upon it.

  • Dec. 3, 2005, 3:41 p.m. CST

    I don't hate Peter Jackson...

    by Terminator

    but I dislike that there's people like Harry who seem to have their lips attached as his ass. And my friend who will see every movie Jackson makes because of LOTR, but won'tt see anything of his before a budget.

  • Dec. 3, 2005, 4:37 p.m. CST


    by PantherMatt

    What the living FUCK is this idiotic horse SHIT?!? Why in the god damnded hell would Peter Jackson OR Del Toro make a fucking video game movie?!?!? Much less TEAM UP ON ONE?? Del Toro made the only watchable Blade flick, and Hellboy was good fun. Jackson made the three best fantasy movies ever made. Now it seems they want to make the most Catwoman-y Catwoman they possibly can. Yippee. There has never been a good video game movie, and I doubt that Halo: The Movie will remedy that. The game's sole appeal is the opportunity to run around like Jimmy Cameron's space marines from Aliens. And, um, that's already a movie. Please let this project fall through

  • Dec. 3, 2005, 5:27 p.m. CST


    by Nachokoolaid

    I can't believe people like you are complaining about this. This is awesome. Would you rather Uwe Boll deliver another turd? Or do you actually want a good film? Or do you not, so you can just bitch some more?

  • Dec. 3, 2005, 5:54 p.m. CST


    by GForce05

    I think it's time for someone who actually knows what he is talking about to speak up. You know what you all sound like? This is what you sound like to me. Wheeee!!!!! Look at me! I have never played Halo in my life but it must suck because it's a videogame and it's super popular!!!! It made more money in a single day of release than any other media did in a day in the history of planet Earth which must mean it sucks!!!!!! That's why at the store at midnight when Halo 2 was released there were 2000 PEOPLE LINED UP IN MY CITY, because it's a piece of garbage!!!!!!! DO YOU PIECES OF SHIT HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT? DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW STUPID YOU SOUND? Someone said that Halo has a small fan base earlier on this talk back. Do I have to say again that it broke not only video game sales records but also records FOR ALL MEDIA AVAILABLE ON THE PLANET. Were you aware that JUST LAST WEDNESDAY, NOT EVEN THE WEEKEND, 50,000 INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE PLAYED HALO 2 OVER X-BOX LIVE? Did you know that it was announced that ESPN is going to be airing Major League Gaming featuring Halo 2 with cash prices of 1 million dollars on television? You fuck tards. HALO IS NOT JUST A FUCKING VIDEOGAME, IT'S THE BIGGEST MEDIA PHENOMENOM OF PERHAPS THE LAST DECADE. Fucking idiots. The only joke is that Microsoft is even allowing there flagship title to be released on the far insuperior film medium. THAT'S THE JOKE. Of course I will watch it anyway, but I'll tell you what, for anyone who has never played the Halo 1 campaign or Halo 2 on x-box live SHUT THE FUCK UP, you have no idea what your talking about. Also, someone said here that there are better FPS on PC. LIKE WHAT? LIKE WHAT YOU FUCKING IDIOT. The only people who think that are people who never played Halo 2 over Live. Lets see, Microsoft spent 4 years and millions of millions of millions of dollars with the sole purpose of crafting the worlds greatest video game with the most talented studio in gaming at the helm (other than maybe UBISOFT) but they got beat by some piece of shit independant software studio on PC?!?! THINK AGAIN. THE HALO SERIES IS AT THE PEAK OF INTERACTIVE ENTERTAINMENT. Nothing even comes close. Not even Half Life 2 which is drawn out and sort of boring and doesn't pack that same "Wow gee" factor in my opinion; you'll either understand that or you won't. Lastly, that guy they are talking about directing. Don't know if he would be my pick but Hell boy actually is alot like Halo when you think about it. They both have tons of action, computer animated mosters, and a hero who is not exactly human, so one is in a devil mask, one is just in a mask, big dif. Del Toro also has that "shiny new" look down which is a must for Halo's futuristic world of 2552. What I don't get is what the problem is. I think most of you talking trash don't even know the Halo story. I'll tell you, than you can be the judge without sounding like an idiot. The year is 2552 and Earth has just made first contact with an alien civilization called the Covanent. The Covanent is a religiously controlled government body made up of multiple species of alien races that all have there own castes within the societal structure. Unfortunately for Earth the Covanent has deamed Mankind a heretical society that must be clensed from the universe. The Covanent slowly move from colony to colony in the galaxy (where Man has set up many worlds) and wipe our species clean. Luckily they have yet to find the location of our homeworld Earth. Halo 1 takes place after your space ship is attacked by a covanent battle ship and your escape pod finds shelter on a massive ring shaped space station called Halo. The Halo is literally the diameter of a planet and has mountains and oceans and valleys on it's inner surface just like a planet as well. You, as the Master Chief, a 7 foot tall, 2 ton (in armor) geneticaly and cybornetically enhanced super solder than spend the rest of the game fighting through the covanent (who recognize the Halo as a religious artifact built by an extinct civilization whom they worship as gods) making sure the Halo isn't activated by them (as is decreed in their religious text for when they find the Halo's, which they just did, along with you) and learning the secrets of the Covanent, the halo and the "flood". Basically, the Halo's are super weapons (as we learn there are many scattered through the galaxy). Once activated they annialate everything within some ridiculous range, and when they are fired in unison they "clense" the galaxy of all life, except for that which exists on certain planets dubbed "Arc's", aparently, but this is a story thread not yet fully reveiled. Why would anyone want to kill everything in the galaxy, including themselves? You might wonder. Because of the "flood". The flood is a sentient, thinking, super virus, but it also exists as a real organism that looks like a giant football sized bacteria and crawls around like some disgusting squid insect. Once infected you basically turn into a zombie but much much nastier, imagine an ebola infected person with rabies walking upright, oozing body fluid from every pour, rotting to pieces with alien parasitic sensors and tentical/tumor like growths creeping from every open orifice, that's what the "flood" does to people. And when the flood is ready to multiply the infected person's body swells up and eventually explodes in a cloud of rott flesh and newly released flood oranisms. Pretty nasty. The ancient Forerunners (who built the rings) once fired all Halo's as a last resort against the flood which had consumed the Galaxy billions of years ago, and which is unfortunately released again in Halo's 1 and 2. Why was flood on the halo to begin with? The rumored plot for Halo 3 revolves around the realization that the Flood was created by the Forerunners as an excuse to activate all halo's and destory all competing civilizations, and that Halo's also create rifts in space-time, sending the forerunners to a steril and resouce abundant future with no competition, only to run smack into man and the covanent who had evolved outside the blast range in the forerunners absence on planets called "arc's", and the game will mostly involve massive scale battles (thousand against thousands) as the forerunners return to forcefully reclaim their empire. I can't wait.

  • Dec. 3, 2005, 6:05 p.m. CST

    Greatest fantasy of our time

    by GForce05

    What Lord of the Rings was the the 1800's (or whenever it was published), what Star Wars was to your parents generation, So Halo is becoming to this generation. You either realize that or you haven't been paying attention.

  • Dec. 3, 2005, 6:22 p.m. CST


    by DonnieDorko

    Yeah, The director of Blade 2 and Hellboy teams up with the director of Bad Taste and Braindead to make a movie based on a fps videogame....... eeeh... someone should be fired..

  • Dec. 3, 2005, 6:31 p.m. CST

    You should be fired

    by GForce05

    ^^^^^^^^^^^ You should be fired DonnieDorko

  • Dec. 3, 2005, 6:36 p.m. CST


    by DonnieDorko

    Yeah, and Lord of the rings were big inte 1800s... :D And Doom is the big comparison to starwars... They made a movie of it and it sucked...

  • Dec. 3, 2005, 6:54 p.m. CST

    Geforce5, are you a Browncoat?

    by Killah_Mate

    Because you sure sound like one. I saw/played Serenity/Halo and liked it a lot/somewhat, but immature posts like these just tick me off. Yes, we all know Halo is popular, after all, that's why they're making the movie. Its backstory (from the Marathon prequels) is good, and its main story is completely bearable. I have great hope for the movie, because of Garland and Jackson and Del Toro and WETA. But that doesn't make Halo the best game ever (how could it? How can you pick a best game *ever*?), and I'm sorry, but it most fucking certainly doesn't mean its story is even close to being the best game story ever.

  • Dec. 3, 2005, 6:57 p.m. CST

    Ooops... GForce05, not Geforce5

    by Killah_Mate

    DonnieDorko messed with my perception...

  • Dec. 3, 2005, 6:59 p.m. CST


    by PantherMatt

    Nachkoolaid: And what, pray tell, are people like me? I'd be a little frightened if you could acurately describe me, as I don't believe I know you. However, no, I'm not typically one to complain. In fact the idea of Del Toro and Jackson teaming up would, under most circumstances, make me quite happy ( and I suppose if the both of them think Halo is a viable premise for a movie, and a decent way for both of them to spend over a year of their lives, then I should give them the benefit of the doubt), but it, as I guess you surmised from my previos post, irks me. So be it. I'm glad you're excited about it. And frankly, I hope you're are the correct one, of the two of us. But I don't think you will be. And, just out of curiosity, why would anyone want Uwe Boll, or any director, to put another turd of a movie in the theatres?

  • Dec. 3, 2005, 7:34 p.m. CST


    by GForce05

    Yes, I think the Halo series is the best game series ever. It has the best action, by far the best AI I have seen, the best muliplayer (Halo 2 on live is nothing short of revolutionary), the best control, a good musical score, a good story (a great one if the rumors about Halo 3 are true), it's just the most solid game, or series that I have played. The best story however goes to Metal Gear Solid, same for dialoug and characters. Anyway, what I think you guys need to realize is that Halo is more than a video game. It's so good that it's the only game I have really gotten into since the First Metal Gear Solid back on PS1, and before that the Legend of Zelda for N64. Comparing Halo to doom, or anything thing else for that matter save maybe Metal Gear Solid, Splinter Cell or Resident Evil 4 (which believe it or not is out-fucking-standing.) Is like comparing Braveheart to Gigli in the film world. WHO CARES THAT IT'S BASED ON A VIDEOGAME!!! Here is what a Halo movie means to you (and I read the script review so this should be pretty accurate). BIG EXPLOSION. The best action since, who knows, perhaps ever, really cool aliens that kind of look like preditors but more badass with lightsaber like energy swords slicing PEOPLE IN HALF (the script review calls the movie the sci-fi Saving Private Ryan as far as wartime gore). Master Chief's (he goes only by his military rank for those who are curious) super hot on board computer AI Cortana who will probably be some Jessica Alba type babe; Yes his on board AI materializes in the real world like a Star Wars hologram projection. Well get the zombie creating flood which should be awsome. Basically if your hung up on it being a video game just forget about it and realize that Peter Jackson and Del Toro are really making a BIG budget sci-fi action (stress the action) epic about alien invasions and zombies and planet sized ring shaped space stations called Halo's. Honestly, Peter Jackson, with all the powers of microsoft backing it, HONESTLY what are you complaining about. This is going to kick serious ass and be THE event movie of summer 06, or 07, or whenever it's released. War of the Worlds, Lord of the Rings; video game or not, Halo will be a movie as big as those, quite your bitching.

  • Dec. 3, 2005, 7:47 p.m. CST


    by GForce05

    Dorko posted: "Yeah, and Lord of the rings were big inte 1800s... :D And Doom is the big comparison to starwars... They made a movie of it and it sucked..." Do I really need to respond to this guys? HONESTLY. Dorko, what are you? 13 years old? Your laughing because I said that Halo is to this generation what Lord of the Rings was to the 1800's or early 1900's (or when ever it was published)? HEY NIMROD, you do realize that Lord of the Rings was an old book that ignited pop culture in it's time before becoming a movie right? What an idiot. Guess what else, I never said anything about doom dumbass. Doom was a shitty movie that wasn't even based on the videogame, HELLO, the demons are FROM HELL, what the fuck where the producers thinking!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? Doom has always been about DEMONS FROM HELL, and the movie was about a virus or something?!?!?! What the F? Anyway, point is, Dorko, your a Dork. And Halo is turning into the fantasy series of our time, that's the parallel I was making between LOTR that you failed to grasp, idiot.

  • Dec. 3, 2005, 8:32 p.m. CST

    You guys are all on crack. Halo kicks ass, and Benicio is the o

    by iamnicksaicnsn

    And I say Halo kicks ass as a guy who's played practically only PC games my entire life. My first console was an XBox. The story of Halo is awesome and pure sci-fi, and it only got better in Halo 2. The game play is great, the graphics are pretty, the score is fantastic, the characters are cool. And Del Toro is a piece of shit. Blade 2 was fucking terrible garbage. It left out everything that was good in Blade. Hellboy was disappointing. I really wanted to like it, I really really wanted to like it, because it's a fascinating story. It had a pretty darn respectable cast. Unfortunately, it's boring as shit. The plot doesn't go as far as it could have, and ugh, there are so many miscues!

  • Dec. 4, 2005, 1:17 a.m. CST

    GForce, go back on the ritalin

    by Monkey Butler

    You're getting so worked up about a video game and a movie. Don't you think that's a little pathetic?

  • Dec. 4, 2005, 2:40 a.m. CST


    by tHEmOOG

    and if thos guy directs HALO it will suck as well..........he's not a good director. you ppl have the worst taste in like everything or something

  • Dec. 4, 2005, 3:06 a.m. CST

    LOTR 1800s-style !

    by Nachokoolaid

    Lord of the Rings was first published in 1954, by the way. Tolkien didn't even start thinking of the story until after his experiences in the First World War.

  • Dec. 4, 2005, 6:15 a.m. CST

    The backstory that you speak of will be in the movie according t

    by ALUCINOR11

    The very first part of the script involves The Fall of Reach battle from the book. It saddens me that most of you guys are fanboys of other shit and can't open up to Halo. Well, I cannot wait to say I told ya so when you can't go five feet without hearing about the phenomenon that is the Halo movie. When of course most people won't have any idea it was a videogame first. It's good to love something way before the sheep find out about it. It's not good after.

  • Dec. 4, 2005, 12:32 p.m. CST

    Del Torro

    by The Cine-eater

    is not a hack director, try watching Devils Backbone and Chronos.Oh and whats happening with the Fatal Frame movie haven't heard anything for ages.

  • Dec. 4, 2005, 1:11 p.m. CST

    If this shit is another pg-13 action movie...

    by Neo Zeed

    It will suck huge balls. I grew up on real action movies like Robocop, Die Hard, Total Recall, etc. Maybe audiences are used to quick cuts away from bullet hits and blood. However, I think it's revolting.

  • Dec. 4, 2005, 2:45 p.m. CST

    Neo Zeed

    by GForce05

    The leaked Halo movie script is ultra gory. In one scene a Spartan soldier (basically a cyber-geneticaly super warrior) gets hit with a sticky grenade and instead of letting his comrads next to him die he curls up around it, thus absorbing the explosion all unto himself and blowing to bits. In another scene the Stealth Elite (the alien equivalent of the navy seals) massacre a platoon of soldiers with their energy swords, slicing them to pieces. Than of course there is the "flood", the super virus that basically turns people into rabid walking corpses. Don't forget it's written by the guy who did 28 day's latter, trainspotting, and The Beach; all very graphic movies. Likewise, if you grew up on Robocop and Total Recall than man, your going to fucking love Halo, seriously. It's a pure testosterone, hardcore, badass nonstop action/sci-fi story.

  • Dec. 4, 2005, 6:26 p.m. CST

    by Joshua D. Terry

    Apparently, if you fail to share Harry's opinion of the all-around genius of Jackson, then you must just hate fat people. It could have nothing to do with an legitimate disdain for his directing and writing.

  • Dec. 4, 2005, 9:16 p.m. CST

    The Halo bashers can eat cornshit

    by Durendal

    Seriously. Yeah, there are a lot of pathetic twats playing Halo. Big deal. There are pathetic twats playing every game out there, console or PC. I play a lot of Halo on the PC, despite the utterly atrocious and inexcusably bad network code. Sure, you'll see plenty of twinks whoring power weapons like the rocket launcher and the fuel rod gun and whoring out tanks and ghosts, but myself and a friend of mine always stomp their asses anyway. I haven't gone through the entire single player campaign, but I love the network play. Sadly, the vast majority of Halo PC players suck ass, but that makes it all the more fun to trounce them and hear them scream "HAX!!" when you club them to death with their own flag for the fifth time in a row. Love or hate the people who play it, it's a damn fun game to network, so quit the mindless droning about how much it sucks and play another game if you don't like it. Christ.

  • Dec. 4, 2005, 9:45 p.m. CST

    I hope you're right GForce05

    by Neo Zeed

    For me, it's either Rated R or nothing at all.

  • Dec. 4, 2005, 11:11 p.m. CST


    by GForce05

    "but that makes it all the more fun to trounce them and hear them scream "HAX!!" when you club them to death with their own flag for the fifth time in a row". Hell yeah dude! I love beating people down with their own flag. Listen man, you got to get Halo 2 on X-box live, seriously. I know it's not pc, but it is so good that it will convert anyone. Everyone's got a microphone cause it comes with the set up, so you can talk trash or strategize with anyone, the connection is 99% of the time solid. Literally 99 games out of 100 will have flawless connection. Plus the big thing is the ranking system, they have all these stats that go into your rank and you only play people at your skill level, and people are FUCKING GOOD. There are 50 levels of rank, and once you get to about 13 you start to feel it, man they get good quick, and it's not little kids at higher ranks or even geeks, it's cool people 20 years and up who like competition. The rank system is revolutionary, seriously; and the way they do it is flawless. Once you've played afew rounds your rank will usually level off and every game will come down to the last few seconds or kills because your so perfectly matched. Honestly dude, if all you know about Halo is Halo 1 and you like it you owe it to your self to check out Halo 2. Halo 2 on live is seriously the greatest thing on the planet right now, all my friends are just as addicted as me, and I wasn't even that much of a gamer until I started playing it. But anyone else listening, check it out. I'm going to describe a typical game and ask yourself it this sounds cool and if so you'll fucking love Halo 2. Imagine your a 7 foot tall super soldier who can jump 10 feet in the air, fighting on an alien structure elevated 10 miles above the ground 500 years in the future, you have 3 other super soldiers on your team against 4 enemy super soldiers, these are all real people playing over X-box live remember. Your playing that the first team to 25 kills wins. The other team is down, they are getting desperate so three of them try and run you over in a jeep while firing at you with the jeeps rocket turrent. You dodge out of the way and toss a grenade right infront of the jeep which drives over it just as it explodes sending the jeep catapaulting into the air and killing the two in the back on detonation (the explosion was under the back wheels). The driver is still alive, you pull our you assault rifle and cap him in the head before the jeep even hits the ground. Everyone on your team saw it and is saying "Owned!" "You RAPED'em!" and shit like that, one kill left for the win. One of the enemy's is flying under your elevated platform in a Phantom (the alien equivanent of a helecopter, but with no blade). The enemy is shooting at someone on your team below you. You time your jump, one false calculation and you will fall 10 miles to your death on the planets surface. You jump off the ledge and right onto the hood of the enemy's phantom 100 feet below, you actually hear him say "Oh shit" as you kick him out of the cockpit to his death. Game over. Yes my friends, this is just your typical game of Halo 2 and it kicks fucking ass.

  • Dec. 4, 2005, 11:12 p.m. CST

    In The Mountains of Madness

    by Celicynd

    I'm a huge Lovecraft fan, but do you guys actually think that ITMoM would make a good movie? Love the story, but I'm not sure it would translate well to film.

  • Dec. 5, 2005, 12:16 a.m. CST

    My Gripe

    by ApneicMonkey

    Talkbackers, listen up... Firstly: HALO kicks ass and if you think it has no story then you've obviously never played it and if you did, you just didn't fucking pay attention. Next: Del Toro is an awesome Director and from what I've seen of him in interviews, he's also a cool guy. Atleast he care about the source material when he makes his adaptions. Next: Peter Jackson is also a great Director and King Kong is going to be a fucking brilliant movie! Next: Kevin Smith is a cool guy and he makes entertaining movies where you can just sit back, relax, switch your brain off and just enjoy! He doesn't expect to ever win an Oscar and talkback fucks shouldn't expect him to either! Next: All the Star Wars movies and Matrix movies kick ass! Next: M. Night Shyamalan has never made a shit movie! Lastly: All the fucks that feel the need to rip on Harry for his love of Kong can eat shit... it's his fucking site and he can do whatever the fuck he wants! He only has so much love to give the new Kong movie because all your mommas are busy until after Xmas! Sorry to divert well and truly off-topic but I've been building that up for a few months now and finally felt the need to let it out. Fuck y'all!

  • Dec. 5, 2005, 4:28 a.m. CST

    Dedicated site,

    by FofR

    A new site has been recently set up, dedicated to all the latest Halo movie adaptation news. It's clear, concise and will have regular updates it seems.

  • Dec. 5, 2005, 7:58 a.m. CST

    Halo 1 is far superior to Halo 2

    by ALUCINOR11

    Play halo 1 competetively and then go to halo 2 and you will see what I mean.

  • Dec. 5, 2005, 12:38 p.m. CST

    people who like Peter Jackson

    by Palhaco

    "...the only people that seem to dislike Peter are idiot Talkbackers that hate all rotund people." Hey, I don't DISlike Peter Jackson, and I HATE what he did to "Lord of the Rings". At least the books will always be there 8^).

  • Dec. 5, 2005, 3:47 p.m. CST

    So not excited about this news

    by quadrupletree

    Not a fan of GDT, Hellboy was crap as far as I'm concerned, and I don't really like anything he's ever made. I really wanted this to be a good movie. I really feel for Bungie at this moment.

  • Dec. 6, 2005, 2:32 p.m. CST

    Ron Perlman as Master Chief!

    by Henry Fool

    Hey, why not? I think it'd be funny if we finally get to see the chief's face an it turned out to be Ron Perlman's big, ugly mug. I can picture the studio execs cringing. Oh well, maybe they could cast him as Captain Keyes or something. Does anybody know if the movie is going to tie into the game (a la 'Enter the Matrix') or be a straight adaption of the first two games?