PART TWO, the interview wouldn't fit all on one page, so I divided it up. Here we go...
5. HARRY: Ok, you're standing outside a theater, this last Friday. You're
watching some people walking out of the film after 15 minutes mumbling
about,
"piece of shit, goddamn waste of money" and then you walk into the theater
to
hear people laughing their asses off and having a great time. What does
this
put you through? Watching people 'get it' and 'not get it'. Describe the
sick
feeling, and the
high feeling? And watching the two, what would you do differently or what
have
you learned about the film?
5. LANCE: I'm still trying to figure out just exactly what we've done in
making Six String Samurai. At first, I constantly alternated between exteme
highs and lows. The premiere was a high. I admit I ran out Friday morning
and bought the L.A. Times. They were reviewing it and I knew how much that
could affect us in L.A. I read Mr. Thomas's review, and that was a low.
Then I went home and read complete opposite reviews that came out the same
day
in Variety and The Hollywood Reporter, and there was a high again. After
awhile, you get numb to the good and the bad. You'd drive yourself insane
if
you think about it too much. Of course, being in my position, you wonder
how
wonderful reviews versus horrible ones are going to effect the film. For
me,
at this point, it's not about ego, it's about trying to ensure that my film
gets seen. I don't care who I have to pay off, I just want that. Here!
Take
all my money!!! C'mon Harry, you know you want it!!! Oh, wait, I forgot,
I
don't have to pay you off, you already like me. Of course, I just moved
into
a new apartment, so I can't give you much anyway, in case anybody was
seriously wondering. I guess, I'm just really curious about how we're
going
to be received ultimately. Well... ok, I'm lying. I'm actually arrogant
enough to know that we'll be well received at the end of the day, as more
and
more people have seen the movie. You have to be a little arrogant to be a
filmmaker and know people will want to see your work. Any filmmaker who
tells
you he or she isn't a little arrogant is bullshiting you.
I think I wrote you in my letter, that I drove down to the Sunset 5 to check
out the sound because we've been having a problem with some theaters playing
the sound too low. The film was maybe 15 minutes in when I got there, and
these two couples where coming out of the theater saying, "What a piece of
shit!" just as I walked by. I walked in the theater and there was a crowd
of
people laughing and having a great time. What the hell? What does that
mean?
From the beginning I knew I was making a film that was pretty whacky and
wouldn't appeal to everyone, so I kinda expect something, but not such a big
rift. Since the festivals, it's gotten so I can sense the personality of
an
audience right away. Almost immediately you can tell if it's going to be a
fun screening or not. I still enjoy watching the film with a good audience.
I wouldn't do a solitary thing differently. Don't expect a Director's cut,
because we used every decent thing we had. The film is what it is. I'll
always stand behind that. It's an experience I wouldn't change for the
world.
6. HARRY: What is going on with the people that made Six String? From the
Red Elvises to Brian Tyler to 'the kid' to Jeffery Falcon to you
cinematographer, etc? Was there coattails on that torn up tux or what?
6. LANCE: Those are some damn big coattails, let me tell you. I can never
quite figure out who's hanging onto who.
Kristian Bernier, my D.P., just got finished shooting Allison Anders's next
film, and he's now fielding offers for other things. We're going to be
shooting together again this winter, along with Jeff too. I've noticed
recently he's taken to wearing an eyepatch... I don't know why.
Jeff Falcon has been meeting about some projects, after a period of being
sorta in everybody elses' shadow(don't ask me why, his charisma makes me
look
good!) He's deciding in the next few days whether he's going to be taking
on
one project, (something totally out of character for him, an
action/DRAMA...oy
vey!) and there's one studio project that he's seriously being considered
to
have a supporting role in. It's another superhero thing. He's also opening
up a chain of delis that specialize in charbroiled perigrine. It's called,
"The Falcon's Nest."
I've lost count of how many things Brian Tyler has done since Six String.
That dude is a workaholic. He did a T.V. movie, a couple of indie features,
and he's working on a studio film now. In his spare time, he's penciling
Buddy glasses onto Chris Tucker's face on every "Rush Hour" poster he sees.
James Frisa, the editor on Six String, has just finished another feature and
while he looks for another one, he's helping Jeff and I sneak into parking
lots and put Six String flyers on all the cars without the security guards
seeing us. (I'm not kidding.)
Our "kid", Justin Macguire, has been in Teen Beat and alot of other press,
and
I think he's now only reachable through his personal assistant, Abdul. You
have to refer to him as "The Artist formerly known as Justin," or he won't
answer... Seriously, he just landed one of the best child agents around,
and
he's auditioning alot. He's done a few commercials.
The Red Elvises just played on Melrose Place. Their music video for "Boogie
On The Beach," from the SSS soundtrack, and directed by Yours Truly, is in
rotation on MTV2, and they just got back from a tour of Russia. Please
feel
free to call MTV and tell them to play the video on the main channel,
because
it's exceedingly cool. We dressed these little kids up like the Red
Elvises,
and we had Justin make an appearance dressed as Buddy... well, ya just gotta
see it. The Red Elvises are now only referred to as, "The Comrades formerly
known as the Red Elvises,"under penalty of having a Soviet firing squad pour
vodka down your throat with a bong as you're forced to hum "Lara's Theme,"
from the soundtrack to Dr. Zhivago. Ouch.
As for me? Depending on who you talk to, I'm either directing Episode 2 of
Star Wars, or seeking gainful employment outside the entertainment industry.
Actually, I'll be filming a really whacky Christmas action movie this winter
that Jeff and I wrote, about a plot to assasinate Santa. I'm also getting
ready to steal Kristian's eye-patch, don't ask me why.
7. HARRY: I've heard your name mentioned with everything from a WestWorld
remake to a mention you made of a TRON 2. Who is Lance Mungia,
director/writer? And what are the types of films you want that name to
mean?
7. LANCE: Harry Knowles, man of the world, seer of all things secret
cinema.
Y'know the movies you'd like to imagine making when you're sitting around
with
your friends going, "wouldn't it be cool if..."? Well, I do that with my
friends alot, and now it seems I can get a few people on the phone, so we've
actually had some meetings about a few of my dream projects, and that's a
trip. It's kinda a reckless thing to do, however, because as you get
involved in it, you find you're working on that, and it takes away from the
time you should be developing your own stuff, like I said earlier. Let's
just
say the future looks bright, but, every now and again, I have to remind
myself
why we went out and started Six String ourselves in the first place.
I want to make films, not just in one genre, where people can go, "That's
Lance's movie, I can tell." I'm still figuring out who I am, I guess.
There's a small drama I'll probably do in the next year or two. Jeff and I
have a couple of action things we'd like to do together. I'd hate to ever
feel like I wasn't being creative and adding something to the mix, both
globally and personally. Sometimes it bums me out when I hear somebody say
that there's no original voice in Six String. Sure, I've got influences.
Nobody works in a void. However, it's how you shape the things that've
influenced you that gives you a unique signature, y'know? If that's not the
case, why don't you have little mini Hitchcocks and Spielbergs' running
around?
8. HARRY: I had to turn down your offer to sleep on your futon and fly out
for the
premiere of 6-String due to some family obligations, how did the premiere
go,
and
what is that experience like?
9. LANCE: I was bummed you weren't able to make it. We're a pretty low
budget operation still, so my futon was your only choice. My effects guy,
Jason Dunn, was psyched about you coming out. He's half convinced you
really
don't exist. He was going ape when I told him you were coming. I really
wanted to fly you out, because without a doubt, you've helped way raise the
level of awareness about Six String in a more mainstream way. When I first
read your review, I wasn't very familiar with your site. Then I started to
realize just how many people read this thing when I started getting a ton of
emails. (I'm ashamed to say I'd only been, "ONE OF US", online, for about
three months at the time.)
As for the premiere, there was a moment there, when I thought, this is
either
the end of a pretty fuckin' cool adventure, or maybe just Chapter 2, but
either way, it's been a blast. There was alot of people I love at that
screening. It was my families' first inkling that I'd really just made a
movie. Before that, they never really believed me, and kept saying, in
their
usual, supportive way, "well, if it doesn't work out, there'll always be a
next time, because we know you can do it..." They didn't even know they
were
supposed to dress up, and they were plenty blown away by the whole thing.
It
was like having every element of my life all at the same place and time.
The
fact I had a fever and was losing my voice made it even more surreal.
I met someone at the premiere that came up and shook my hand. I later found
out that guy drove in from Yosemite. I wish now I'd talked more to the
dude.
The gravity of something like that didn't really hit me right away.
Geez...
I hope he liked it. "I DROVE 600 MILES TO SEE YOUR MOVIE, AND YOU SUCK!!!"
Oops. In reality, I think anybody that would drive out like that really
likes
this KIND of movie, and they're totally going to get it, so I'm not worried.
9. HARRY: After watching KNOCK OFF, I suddenly had a terrible vision that
perhaps you would some day find yourself working with that terrible waste of
celluloid actor Jean Claude Van Damme because he seems to take talented
directors and prove that all the talent in the world could not make a good
Van
Damme film. Now, I'm going to ask a hypothetical here. Why? Cause I'm an
evil bastard and I feel like it. But let's say the day comes, and I pray it
never does, where you can't get a project off the ground, and the 'Muscles
>From Brussels' comes to you and says, "Make a mubie wid me." and you are
forced to say yes. How could you make a good one? Is it even possible?
With
a dead eye, zero charisma, overly muscled monstrosity... how could you bring
him to life?
9. LANCE: I read something somewhere that says Woody Allen auditions his
actors by doing stuff like going to the park with them, playing golf, or
whatever. He doesn't make them read lines. I can dig that. Everyone I've
worked with, comes down to a matter of personality. A lot of bad actors can
give you a brilliant cold reading, that's a different skill than bringing
life
and personality to a character. I knew Jeff and even Justin would turn out
great, because they have open personalities. Justin's still a kid, so it's
different, but Jeff anyway, is willing to put his trust in a director and
take
chances. In my mind, both the actor and the director have to check their
ego
at the door if they're going to stumble across anything good together. Some
actors, I'm sure you can just turn them on and let them go. I'm sure nobody
tells Hoffman or DeNiro what to do. But still, you have to be able to
communicate bluntly, in order to point them in the right direction. If the
personality isn't there, if the actor and the director can't be objective,
the
film is going to suffer even with a brilliant actor, because that actor
isn't
always going to do what's best for the film.
There's a great book on acting, called "Heresy and Common Sense for the
Working Actor," by David Mamet. I agree with alot of what he says. If
you're
always trying to actually get an actor to "believe" he or she is in a
situation, you're doomed to fail. In my mind, you have to scratch, lie,
cheat
and steal your way to a good performance. If the Method works for you, Amen
brother, but it's gotta be whatever it takes to get there, even if that
means
faking it. Trust me, if an actor has some kind of fire in his belly, nobody
but the director and the actor will ever know. If you're lucky, you're
blessed with someone that has natural charisma. Actors like Harrison Ford,
can do very little, and make it enthralling, because they ooze personality.
You can't teach that.
10. HARRY: I know you are a huge fan of Akira Kurosawa. I'm seeing
RASHOMAN
and THRONE OF BLOOD tomorrow night at a 'celebration of Kurosawa' at the
same
screen I saw SIX STRING. What did Akira do for you?
10. LANCE: Damn.... wish I was in the neighborhood.
I'd venture that Akira Kurosawa was a simple man, and that's why he was able
to make such epic movies with so much heart and attention to detail and
scope.
Some people I guess called him "The Emperor," because he liked everything
to
be perfect. That shows in everything I've seen of him. He was the kind of
director that would have a thousand soldiers waiting to stage a great
battle,
and he'd be sitting on a cushion atop a hill next to the camera overlooking
it
all, wearing his hat and glasses, patiently waiting for the sunset to dip in
the sky just so, before he said action. "That's just the way it should be,
why shoot it anyway else?" I'm sure he'd say at a time like that, and it'd
be
a sincere question too! I don't profess to be a true afficionado of
Kurosawa,
but his work certainly affected me.
I remember seeing the opening of "Yojimbo" the first time, with that music,
camera on Toshiro's back, as he's walking and you see a hint of that blade.
The World moved with him, it was so powerful. Perfect Cinema. I remember
thinking they'd squeezed the opening just to make him look more like a
giant.
I was a kid, and only much later realized that they squeezed the opening to
get all the titles on the videoscreen. (I wasn't fortunate enough to have a
theater that would play RASHOMAN and THRONE OF BLOOD within a hundred miles
of
me.)
A thought like that crossed my mind when I decided to squeeze the opening
title sequence of Six String, to make everything look more grand. It was
nostalgic too, I guess.
Akira's humility is what made his stuff so accessible. I think he was often
trying to deal with the human experience. His stuff was never just a simple
slash-em-up and he did some very interesting dramas like IKURU, only some of
which I've seen. He recognized how futile it is to try and escape who we
are
as human beings. We're flawed naturally, but nobility is a goal that should
be strived for anyway. It's in the striving that we can find greatness.
You
know the saying? It's easy for a brave man to be a hero, but where's the
drama in that? It's much more interesting when the coward can become the
hero.
I remember watching Mr. Kurosawa on T.V. as he received his Lifetime
Achievement Award from The Academy. He said something like, "I humbly
accept
this award, hoping that I've somehow managed to scratch the surface of the
cinematic medium, and that I can someday make a greater contribution."
He said that at age 80! He'd already done it all! That attitude, of still
continuing to strive for greatness, knowing that there's so much left undone
almost to the point of quiet desperation, comes through in his work. Part
of
making a movie is knowing the possiblity of failure. I can only speak for
myself, but that was always something I was aware of. I knew I was doing
something special to me, which makes you even more paranoid about fucking it
up. I said earlier that as a filmmaker you have to be arrogant... well, I
think you have to be humble too. Kurosawa "The Emperor", gave us great
epics.
Akira "The man", gave us great characters.
He'll be missed, but we've still got him, haven't we?
Whew! Enough for one interview.
Thanks alot for giving me this opportunity to blab, Harry. I've gotta crash
and then get back to calling some theaters. I'm currently still stressing
over the sound in theaters where Six String is playing. It seems our sound
optical on our prints may have been printed too low, so if theater
projectionists don't check, they've been running my sound too low. Sound's
very subjective, so it's kinda like my film's in the hands of projectionists
that have no idea how loud it should be. AAHHH!!! Since sound is probably
80 percent of the film, I've been stressing BIGTIME, calling all the
theaters
or making appearances to make sure they turn the volume up to decent levels.
If anybody out there notices the sound on my film seems low, don't hesitate
to
tell the manager to turn it the hell up, and keep it up for the rest of the
screenings at that theater.
Thanks,
Lance Mungia
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