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SPIDER-MAN 3 shooting!

Hey folks, Harry here with a tiny little report that drops the bead on the where and what of SPIDER-MAN 3's shooting. Masheen81 is reporting this second hand, but my bet is he's dead on. I remember when we heard about the early shooting on SPIDEY 2, folks thought it was for a teaser trailer, me included. Word was going around it was just some tests. Wound up being a fucking fantastic sequence, one of the best in film effects history. Wonder what this will turn into someday. Tear gas eh?

Hey Harry

My friend in Los Angeles said that Spider-Man 3 has already begun shooting second unit photog, specifically near spring and 5th. Much like when Spider-Man 2 was filming in November 2002 in Chicago on the train tracks [for plates], that scene had to be filmed at the forefront because it was the centerpiece of the movie and took the ENTIRE production, from filming all the way to post, to finish animaitng. I assume the same is for here but nothing major is going on at the moment. Just some cops and SWAT teams firing gas grenades at a building. Some Daily Bugle paper machines scattered throughout the streets and some fake subway stations. Most of the shooting he said was done at night. No words on Flint Marko or Mr. Brock showing up. He said it looks kind of like the area where Madison Square Garden/Penn Station is. When he emails me the pics I'll send em.


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  • Nov. 15, 2005, 5:40 a.m. CST


    by Tubbs Tattsyrup

    I hope they can top SM2.

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 5:52 a.m. CST


    by jrbarker

    I'm looking forawrd to more pics

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 6:13 a.m. CST

    I don

    by Evil Chicken

    I love Sam Rami. Spidey 3 should be a treat.

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 6:23 a.m. CST

    there's a video of this over at Superherohype...

    by Rindain

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 6:35 a.m. CST


    by cyanide christ

    Oh...sorry, wrong talkback. Could someone please advise where a guy like me can go and shout PLANT?

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 6:40 a.m. CST

    cant wait...

    by misnomer

    for this film!!!! shame about the lack of danny elfman-hope they can still use some of his score. church as sandman after all...but is topher grace playing electro then? or is it gonna be venom?...

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 6:42 a.m. CST


    by RenoNevada2000

    Get yer ass back to Manhattan Raimi!

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 6:48 a.m. CST

    I can't believe this thing isn't coming out until mid-20

    by 3 Bag Enema

    I doubt I'll survive.

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 6:52 a.m. CST

    Sand is overrated.

    by Gilkuliehe

    It's just tiny little rocks.

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 7:06 a.m. CST

    i'm very eager to find out who the second villain is

    by amano

    that is all

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 7:16 a.m. CST

    I love how Raimi works on these

    by performingmonkey

    He just seems more in touch with everything than any other director out there, or at least any director doing movies of this size. Well, maybe Jackson. Anyway, I pray he doesn't drop the ball and that he still has as much interest and enthusiasm with the franchise as he did on Spides 2.


  • Nov. 15, 2005, 7:30 a.m. CST

    The 2nd Villain Is...

    by IAmMrMonkey

    All the evil talkbackers who are going to slate this movie ahead of release simply because they know it will be good. Yes, that's right.... it's YOU!

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 7:56 a.m. CST

    pics are already up at Super Hero Hype

    by Mr_Sleep001

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 7:58 a.m. CST

    No Danny Elfman? My interest just jumped up ten fold.

    by ComputerGuy68

    His score was pure shit - good riddance, go take your Batman score (which is in just about every score he does) to the next Burton film.

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 8:07 a.m. CST

    Great! A sequel. Of a comic, By Sony.

    by Kubrick Saves

    Who cares about all this lazy studio crap? Where's the next Fight Club? Or Taxi Driver? Let's find the truly great films out there. Time to reclaim film from the mall rats methinks.

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 8:16 a.m. CST

    I thought it was already shooting.

    by rev_skarekroe

    Where did that picture of the Sandman from a week or two ago come from?

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 8:29 a.m. CST

    It's nice to have at least one...

    by Childe Roland

    ...comic book movie I'm actually looking forward to next year. Even if it falls slightly short of SM2, I'm sure I'll enjoy the hell out of this - despite tha mumbly, prozac encumbered Peter Parker and the butterfaced Mary Jane they went with (Topher Grace and Laura Prepon should've had these roles). It's a testament to Raimi's skill as a director that he can make these two lackluster leads so watchable film after film.

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 8:54 a.m. CST

    "two lackluster leads so watchable"

    by DocPazuzu

    Or at least one of them. I find Dunst to be unbearable even in the Spidey flicks. She was upstaged even by her own nipples in the first one. A complete charm and talent vacuum.

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 8:59 a.m. CST

    "Who cares about all this lazy studio crap?"

    by Capt. Murphy

    Agreed, this is junk, who cares? These movies are always slow moving piles of crap, and people eat them up because of the hype. It's hard to be excited about movies like this anymore, and when I start getting tired of the cheesy action superhero movies, you know there's a shift in the landscape, because I used to eat this shit up.

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 9:07 a.m. CST

    "Where's the next Fight Club? Or Taxi Driver?"

    by ZombieSolutions

    they're being made somewhere in Asia most likely. no doubt they will show up at your local international film festival sometime soon...

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 9:13 a.m. CST

    No Danny Elfman? Goddammit!

    by AnimeJune

    He's my favourite composer - and he's NOT doing Spider-Man 3? What the hell? I've listened to his "Spider-Man Theme" a hundred times - it's fucking fantastic. Where was the "Batman Theme" in "Beetlejuice"? Or "Edward Scissorhands"? Or "Nightmare Before Christmas"? Or "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory"? At least his music's dynamic - unlike the score for Batman: Begins. Yaawn. Guess I'll just have to comfort myself by watching Topher Grace and Tobey Maguire in the same movie.^_^

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 9:15 a.m. CST

    "Where's the next Fight Club? Or Taxi Driver?"

    by Rindain

    It's called "The Fountain", and it's directed by Darren Aronofsky

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 9:21 a.m. CST

    "Where's the next Fight Club? Or Taxi Driver?"

    by 3 Bag Enema

    This is like showing up on a talkback about the latest film by Todd Solanz and and saying, "Who cares!?!? What about Spider-Man 3?!?!?" Is your ego so dependant upon your belief in your superiority to genre work that you must reveal that dependancy to the annoyance of others? Oh, wait. It is.

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 9:26 a.m. CST

    A Fox executive got fired over Fight Club

    by Citizen Arcane

    We're lucky that even got made.

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 9:31 a.m. CST

    "Where's the next Fight Club? Or Taxi Driver?"

    by ZombieSolutions

    I just want to keep this going as long as possible. btw, i'm excited about Spiderman 3 as well, so, i don't feel superior to genre work. i love good genre work. (in addtion, honestly, both Fight Club and Taxi Driver can be thought of as genre work. i'd place them roughly within a neo-noir context...)

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 9:33 a.m. CST

    Oh, and - no respect for the Spider-Man film franchise?

    by 3 Bag Enema

    How about respect for Sam Raimi, who is a complete self-starter, who went from basically being a backyard film-maker to being one of the most talented genre directers of his generation. Or respect for the resonance of a character which re-defined a genre and who has managed to remain relevent for over 40 years? And how about some respect for the fact that Raimi was talented enough to capture the appeal of that character, creating a big-budget spectacular that is touching and character-driven? Is it possible that in a desire to distance yourself from your childhood and from the mainstream, you have become a pretentious bore? Go blow Vincent Gallo, you ass!

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 9:56 a.m. CST

    I thought the headline meant someone literally got shot on the s

    by Terry_1978

    Preferably Kirsten Dunst, but I digress.

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 9:58 a.m. CST

    Oh, Come On 3 Bag Enema! Nobody Here *Really* Hates Spiderman..

    by ZombieSolutions

    I think you're fighting a battle you've already won. Everybody posting on this board is going to see Spiderman 3 at least once. same thing with the KONG bashers, or any other geekfilm basher. most of these people will also buy the DVD as soon as it comes out. even the "Vincent Gallo blowing pretensious bores." you know how AICN is -- a bunch of socially retarded geeks who love all of this stuff, but pretend not to. AICN is thee premier geekfilm repository of empty wordbattles. in short: relax, its okay, were all more or less on the same page in terms of geekery...

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 10:08 a.m. CST

    Why am I looking forward to SM3, SR, AND EVEN X3?

    by Mattchew

    Because it's fun to see the characters I love in flesh in blood (faithfully depicted or otherwise), moving around on screen. Everyone knows 'Fight Club' is a better movie than any comic book film ever made. That's why people debate these movies in terms of 'Best comic book movie ever' instead of 'Best movie ever'. WE ALL GET IT. Nobody is bitching that SM2 didn't win 'Best Picture' @ the Oscars. So take a breath and realize that there WILL ALWAYS BE big summer movies (a category Fight Club never really intended to fill), and thank your lucky stars that we're not still riding the 'disaster moive' trend of the 90's. (PS: I KNOW X3 is gonna suck... but I'm gonna support that failing franchise until those bastards give me Sentinals... And they cast Richard Pryor as Bishop)

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 10:16 a.m. CST

    "Where's the next Fight Club? Or Taxi Driver?"

    by wackynephews

    Are you seriously putting those two films in the same category for quality? Taxi Driver is a harsh look at a man in the grips of a mental and emotional break down. Fight Club is a navel gazing piece of crap that only white suburban kids think is interesting...because it so encapsulates their anger at being white, middle class, and boring.

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 10:22 a.m. CST

    "Where's the next Fight Club? Or Taxi Driver?"

    by ZombieSolutions

    "Taxi Driver is a harsh look at a man in the grips of a mental and emotional break down." and Fight Club isn't? besides, i thought it was more about white / aging gen-xer / middle-manager angst, not suburban white kid angst. thats what 8 Mile was made for -- so boring, middle class white kids can pretend they too are cool, edgy, and black. DJ Jazzy Trevor in the hizzouse. "yo yo yo, i get everything i want, my dads gonna get me a job, yo yo yo." lame.

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 10:33 a.m. CST

    ah but taxi driver has a beginning, middle, and an end

    by mrgreentheplant

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 10:38 a.m. CST

    Oh my God, is everyone all right?

    by pencil-man

    We really must stop this from happening in our schools as well. I vote for a stronger, safer Republic. Chancellor, you have my vote!

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 10:48 a.m. CST

    WHO GOT SHOT????

    by Shermdawg

    pencil-man, I didn't mean to rip you off, but I, and who knows how many people, will post the same thing given the way they titled this thread. lol

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 10:55 a.m. CST

    Not everything has to be some ground breaking, art house, nosebl

    by Cletus Van Damme

    Aside from story and plot, there are other ways to be groundbreaking, the most common in action films would be the effects. The action sequences in SM2 were some of the best I've seen. Also, Raimi deserves respect for showing the Hollywood stuffed shirts that the filmmaking equivilant of a garage band can go all the way and make celluloid greatness.

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 11:01 a.m. CST

    We're all geeks... even the cool among us

    by chains

    I agree with Zombie... everyone on this site pretty much fits into one category: people who spend their free time looking forward to the next two hours of escape from their daily lives. And anyone who routinely uses abbreviations to refer to movies earns bonus geek points, because no non-geek knows what the fuck SM2, EP3:ROTS or LOTR means. And we all go see these damn movies, otherwise we wouldn't be here reading about them... just as we don't spend time on Martha Stewart's website talkbacks... because we don't give a shit about them. Here, your very presence condemns you.

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 11:13 a.m. CST

    It's hard to embrace Geekness, but your time will come

    by vinceklortho

    So, when are we "offically" going to hear who the second villian is? I am very concerned about this! I demand results!

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 11:35 a.m. CST

    Capt. Murphy you speak the truth...

    by indiephantom

    this was tired before the word go.

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 12:08 p.m. CST

    I saw Hulk on USA last night...

    by Shermdawg

    which made me wonder if theres anything new to report on the rumored sequel as of yet. Yes, the first was dissapointing, but only around 40-50% of it, and looking back on it, even with the embarrassing "Shakespeare" ending, it's not as cringe inducing as the first X-men. Universal, I want me Hulk!!!!!

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 12:14 p.m. CST

    Let me clear something up...

    by Shermdawg

    X-men did not become cringe inducing untill one specific moment, when Wolverine landed on the hood,during the fight with Sabretooth. The nightmare scene, the train sequence, and the part where Rogue steals Logans healing factor are well done, but the thanks.

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 12:16 p.m. CST

    I'm still hoping Topher Grace is Venom

    by AnimeJune

    Although there are now rumours circulating that he might be cast as the HobGoblin. All of you "Topher2Tiny4Venom" peeps out there, would Hob Goblin calm your fanboy rage?

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 12:40 p.m. CST

    Alicia Witt should have been Mary Jane

    by Citizen Arcane

    I'm sick of looking at that chicklet toothed troll Dunst.

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 12:51 p.m. CST

    Betty Brant?

    by Shermdawg


  • Nov. 15, 2005, 12:52 p.m. CST

    I like Fight Club

    by Doc_Strange

    And I'm not white, angry, or suburban. Nihilist, okay.

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 1:08 p.m. CST

    Anakin OWNS Sandman In His ASS!


    "I don

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 1:10 p.m. CST

    Saw David Koepp over the weekend talk about Spider-Man 3.

    by UncleSam

    I like Spider-Man in general but not fanatical about the comic book. So I don't know if this information is worth anything. I know there was speculation about who are the villains in the next movie. Sandman and Venom were mentioned but David Koepp spoke something about how fans were angry about the scene where MJ was dropped-off the bridge by the Green Goblin when it was suppose to be some girl named Drew(?)in the comic book. Well Koepp said that that scene he wrote was suppose to be a foreshadow to a scene in the next movie where Harry as the Green Goblin acts out the scene fans were talking about. Sounds like nothing to me but Koepp mentioned it since he was getting complaints.

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 1:16 p.m. CST

    Don't the fans complain about Koepp in general

    by Doc_Strange

    I mean the guy is the MOST generic screenplay writer I've ever seen. Every movie I've seen that he's written has never had any real balls or taken anything a step further. The guy has potential but he's pretty much remained safe in everything he's done. Homeboy needs to kill more main characters off or do something completely unexpected with the writing.

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 1:17 p.m. CST

    Shermdawg, I feel just the opposite

    by Meremoth

    I liked X-men ok. It wasn't great but I liked it. The Hulk bored me to death. I did like the comic book cut aspect though. I'm sure, however that both of us will be able to cringe during X3 however.

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 1:29 p.m. CST

    Hey, Doc_Strange!

    by UncleSam

    I wouldn't mind being David Koepp since his movies have grossed more than 5 billion dollars. He supposedly had some 2% deal with Sony. That's something like 100 million dollars for himself if you account all 5 billion.

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 1:41 p.m. CST

    I think the Doc is right....

    by vinceklortho

    Koepp has no balls. He may get paid a bunch, but I thought he really pussed out on The Lost World. Although, I don't know how much he had to do with that given Spielberg wanted that stupid San Diego T-Rex invasion. Still, he's just bland.

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 2:03 p.m. CST

    Koepp is a studio screenwriter first.

    by UncleSam

    Studio screenwriters are at the bottom of the creative totem pole in Hollywood. They generally write what the studio and/or director want. If you want to get paid for a living as a writer, I don't see that as a problem at all. If you want to have no financial worries getting paid royalties for the rest of your life, then you write what the studios want.

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 2:26 p.m. CST

    I actually think Hulk is one of the best comic book movies.

    by Mahaloth

    It was painfully serious for some, but I loved how it told two father-child dramas at the same time and took the material seriously.

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 2:46 p.m. CST

    I liked The Hulk. It wasn't what I expected.

    by jim

    I was expecting a generic paint by numbers movie. Mahaloth is right, it took the material seriously, something most comic book adaptations don't (at least not to that extreme). As a result, I think it was too dour for most viewers.

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 2:47 p.m. CST

    I enjoyed the Hulk, but was confused througout most of it.

    by FrodosBlueBalls

    Maybe it's b/c I never read the comic, but I loved the style of it and the acting was pretty good. Thought it was better than Spiderman 1, but not better than Batman Begins or Spiderman 2

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 3:02 p.m. CST

    "Where's the next 'Young Einstein'? Or 'Over the

    by RaylanGivens

    It's all rhetorical.

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 3:11 p.m. CST

    Fight Club? Taxi Driver?

    by samsquanch

    Who's an adorable little angry white male? coochie coo? ________Taxi Driver was great but that was like, 30 years ago, and Fight Club sucks. Does anyone else think it's funny that this guy popped into this talkback about Spiderman just to let us all know that our interest in superhero movies is misplaced? what's he doing here? and why should our interests in different kinds of films be mutually exclusive? I like apples AND oranges! shocked?

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 3:41 p.m. CST

    yeah when is the next fight club coming

    by slappy jones

    it is about time we got another smug, too cool for school, back slapping, look how dangerously hip we are load of crap.

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 3:52 p.m. CST

    fight club

    by Shakes

    I have to admit, I love what Fight Club is saying and doing, but I find the movie to be very hypocritical in having Brad Pitt play the guy that tells you "it doesn't matter what you look like, or what car you drive" etc. and going on about not having to make yourself look better to be happy. No shit, you're brad pitt. Have ethan suplee or someone who looks like Harry tell us that and maybe it'll have more meaning.

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 3:56 p.m. CST

    taxi driver is the most overrated film of all time

    by ashhole

    everybody jizzes all over it because of deniro and scorcese. it's a crude caricature at best, painted in broad, sloppy strokes of ill-defined and misdirected angst. a social retard becomes a sociopath because he is unable to cope with his own failings and blames everyone but himself. it's pedantic crap. fight club, on the other hand, is intelligent and incisive with real character motivations and a excellent portayal of the modern conflict between living within the artificial bounds of society that is predicated on the survival of the economy and the instinctual bonds of humankind's responsibility to each other's survival as individuals. fight club is infinitely more nuanced, written by an actually talented writer, and a superior film in all regards.

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 4:01 p.m. CST

    erm, yeah nice video

    by Avon

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 4:06 p.m. CST


    by Shakes

    Hulk wasn't that bad of a movie. It was intelligently done, and definitely didn't follow the normal trend of comic movies, but they made it unnecessarily complicated, incorporating all that genetic stuff from early in his life. They could have left that out and still kept the dynamic with his father that everyone who likes it seems to rave so much about.

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 4:06 p.m. CST

    Wha?? Me like Taxi Driver

    by vinceklortho

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 4:06 p.m. CST

    that being said...

    by ashhole

    spiderman 2 was my favorite comic movie to date. raimi and his team got it right as a spiderman movie in look and story and managed to throw the in trademark raimi cuts and shots mixed with real innovation to make it undeniably his. i will watch every spiderman movie he makes because he's figured it out. the scary part is, i think raimi's just now hitting his stride as a filmmaker. it's all coming together for him, he has the clout and the resources to match his vision now. i look forward to his next non-spidey film with even more anticipation than SM3&4.

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 4:40 p.m. CST

    "Where's the next Fight Club? Or Taxi Driver?" Well, it cam

    by workshed

    One day, my dear friends over the water, your minds will be blown away by this all-time classic. Be warned though - it's very violent and pretty scary. It's also the finest British film this decade so far.

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 4:42 p.m. CST

    Ash: your points about Taxi Driver...

    by vinceklortho

    Are the reasons why I like it. The points you made on character at least. I agree with you on Spiderman...good stuff. I'm a big fan of Spiderman 2 and will defend it over any X-Men movie.

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 5 p.m. CST

    Patrick Stewart Is THE VULTURE!

    by ZombieSolutions

    search your feelings, you know it to be true! the set up could be something like Peter Parker is walking through Chelsea when he is 'propositioned' by a rich olde man for a little ahem 'dangerous liaison.' later on we find out that it's Patrick Stewart and he's THE VULTURE! but i'm seriously, is the rumor true that they are shooting 3 and 4 back to back?

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 5:05 p.m. CST

    Fight Club

    by JediGBus

    Cool movie but better than Taxi Driver? Nope. One thing about Fight Club that bothered me was that it TOLD you what it was about. It didn't allow you to think about what its themes in the way Taxi Driver did because the constant narration in Fight Club was simply telling you what the movie was about, where it was going, how the characters were feeling; therefore, I don't believe it allowed any of the actors to act beyond the limits of the narration. Also, the movie was steeped in Hollywood cliches (the Keyser Soze ending, for one) and for me this actually argued against the movie's theme of "going against the norm" (sorry for simplifying it). Taxi Driver had limited narration and relied heavily on DeNiro's performance in order for the audience to grasp the themes and message. This is why, I think, his performance and Scorcese's direction of the movie are given so much credit. Oh yeah, and I agree with vinceklortho, I'll take Spiderman over X-Men anytime. Raimi did in outstanding job with both SM1 and SM2 although SM2 was way better. I liked X1 but much to everyone's disapproval, X2 bored the shit out of me.

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 5:18 p.m. CST

    Where's The Next SHOWGIRLS? (SOWGIRLS?)

    by ZombieSolutions

    SHOWGIRLS 2: The Return of The Electric Gonorhea Machine ~or~ Baron Von Esterhaus and the Coke Habit Of Doom in 3-D!. _______ followed closely by SOWGIRLS -- the tragic meta-sequel in which all the hot coked out whores are now all fat and nasty; turnin' tricks, gettin' and givin' multiple gnarly STDs, grazing in the grass, rollin in the mud and the blood and the gunk and the glass and the beer; eventually bein' left for dead in the desert in varous states of defilement. chainsaws, racoons, firetrucks, rattlesnakes, wormholes, cactii, enlighteningment, the ghost of the hot lesbian chick with a shiv in her neck telling the phat cow to go to the dego-bra system, puking, you name it. cumming in an alternate history May circa 2069.

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 5:35 p.m. CST

    Frankie Muniz is the One True Peter Parker!!!

    by Borgnine JR

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 6:04 p.m. CST

    Rap :D

    by GiftedInThePants

    FLop. Rap suck AHAHAH LAMZA

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 6:08 p.m. CST


    by Meremoth

    Did you happen to get slightly bored with Spiderman 2 in the middle? I did the first time I watched it. I fell asleep the 2nd time. I own it and I've never watched the whole way through more than once at home. Attack of the Clones is the only other movie like that for me. Too much boring politics I already know about from watching it the first time through. And I actually like both of the movies.

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 6:27 p.m. CST

    I hate to be a "hater" about Spider-Man.

    by one9deuce

    But neither Spider-Man nor Spider-Man 2 will age well, because neither one of them has an interesting story. Worse yet, they don't have a plot through-line. What is the plot of Spider-Man? I don't know! Does anybody? The Green Goblin is trying to accomplish.....? What is Spider-Man trying to keep him from doing? Spider-Man 2 has Doc Ock trying to make his machine work, but that is about it. Mostly these two films are about the characters relationships to each other on a superficial level. "Will they or won't they get together", or "Those two friends aren't getting along with each other right now." These are the staples of SOAP OPERAS. Which is what the Spider-Man films are: Big budget prime-time soaps. Beverly Hills 90210 or Dawson's Creek plots on a comic book canvas. With shitty CGI stunt-men that are laughable now and will eventually be considered ridiculous looking.

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 7:49 p.m. CST

    What pisses me off...

    by Shermdawg

    we got a pic of Sandman, AND Ghost Rider last week, but we still don't know what ol' Jughead's gonna look like in X3. Dammit Ratner, just show us the helmet.

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 8:15 p.m. CST

    Taxi Driver...Fight Club...Hulk...

    by Chishu_Ryu

    As far as Martin Scorsese films written by Paul Schrader go, I'd say "Raging Bull" or "Last Temptation of Christ" are far superior to "Taxi Driver," the latter being merely a poor attempt at trying to make a Robert Bresson film. All three films, however are far superior to "Fight Club," which, though stylistically slick and interesting in a psuedo-intellectual neophyte kind of way, had about as much true depth as a George Michael video. For a better David Fincher film, I'd recommend "Panic Room," which starred Jodie Foster. Heck, any film with Jodie Foster in it would be superior to "Fight Club" (see "Taxi Driver"). And lastly, while I found "Spider-Man 2" to be entertaining in a sort of roller coaster ride/teen romance kind of way, I won't be holding my breath for "Spider-man 3" because I expect more of the same 2-dimensional studio crap from that hack Sam Raimi, who I once thought had talent. You see, unlike 98% of the neophytes that visit this site, I have MATURED beyond film as a mere roller coaster ride(that's what Disney World is for) and look for films to be challenging, to be provoking, to take me out of my normal way of thinking, as well as be interesting. And yes, even a comic book movie can do this. Tim Burton did it by casting against type and putting Michael Keaton in the Bat suit. Ang Lee did it by daring to make an intellectual Hulk movie. Sam Raimi has merely given everyone one what they expected with the Spider-Man movies, and found success by playing it safe. This is one reason, among many, why Tim Burton's "Batman" and Ang Lee's "Hulk" are far superior to Sam 'the Hack' Raimi's "Spider-man" movies. So put that in your pipe and smoke it, you bunch of neophytes. If you're old enough to smoke, that is.

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 9:09 p.m. CST

    Fight Club and Taxi Driver re two of the best ever.

    by oducerproducer

    But to the main topic. Does anyone really think sm3 will be out before 2007?

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 10 p.m. CST

    Ryu, dude...

    by underscore_only

    you used neophytes like four times in your post. Come on.

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 10:21 p.m. CST

    Might as well have someone rip apart Taxi Driver...

    by RezE11even

    We've gone from saying Spiderman 2 is shit to Fight Club being shit, might as well hit the third film mentioned in the talkback. I don't understand it myself, but hey-

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 10:37 p.m. CST

    Big Fucking Deal.

    by DOGSOUP

    I'm already so burnt out on this.

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 11:42 p.m. CST


    by Ridge

    I love Spidey 1 and 2, I love Taxi Driver, most people on here are just saying they're shit to fit in I guess, whilst in real life they love them. Come across many many people like that. I guess this news doesn't really excite me. I'm going to see the movie for sure and when the teaser hits I'll go ape for it probably but until then I suppose I'm more interested in Superman Returns news...

  • Nov. 15, 2005, 11:47 p.m. CST

    Yes the hulk must've been better...

    by Ridge

    For it grossed far less world wide and at home, and was critically panned... You really do read too much into comic book movies Ryu. The Hulk I liked a lot but couldn't stand how they brought the hulk out in him. Not the treatment when he was little, but the whole 'trapped in a room' thing. It set the pace for the whole movie for me : One giant piece of anti-climactic film. Sorry but I still think a gamma bomb should've been in there somewhere... also to the comment Jodi Fosters movies were better than Fight Club? Yeah because Nell rocked so hard didn't it... so did Panic Room hey... oh and that uber classic Flight Plan... dear god help me. Fight Club was an excellent movie, very well done with a very well imbued message of over indulgence and consumerism imbedded in it. Also the fight scenes were excellent heh.

  • Nov. 16, 2005, 12:03 a.m. CST

    My God

    by Meremoth

    I think some of you take films to seriously. You see I Meremoth the fucking great have matured past the point of appreciating films and entered the world of knowing that Hollywood is fake. Thats right, I know your all shocked. There is no Spiderman. There is no Taxi Driver. In fact there is nothing. Its all in your mind. Now, do you want the red pill or the blue pill?

  • Nov. 16, 2005, 12:21 a.m. CST

    All I know is...

    by TheDicklessChimp

    if Spidey isn't wisecracking in this movie, I'm gonna sling shit at the screen. He's got Mary Jane now, there's no excuse for this mopey shit anymore.

  • Nov. 16, 2005, 2:04 a.m. CST

    Whats with The Dunst hate?She'd go like a train,man.Fucking

    by The True Priapic

    Looking forward to this.Hope they do Hobby circa Ron Frenz years.Hopefully Kirsten will drown fan hate for her by extreme sex scenes and nudity in Marie Antoinette.May I add that I watched Spongebob Squarepants movie the other night and Scarletts voice is hot falutin' rocking little girl SEXY!Man,I need to get out and laid....Personally I'd throw shit at the screen if Venom is in this.Could be worse.They might do Carnage.Rubbish 90's villians that display nothing more than violence.Any chance of some Dunst tits?Hmm......God they'd bounce about Traci Lords stylee,like fucking balloons with water in 'em.Yowza.

  • Nov. 16, 2005, 7:10 a.m. CST

    underscore_only, you neophyte...

    by Chishu_Ryu

    ...I only used "neophyte" three times.

  • Nov. 16, 2005, 7:14 a.m. CST

    My God, Meremoth, the "f***ing great"...

    by Chishu_Ryu obviously haven't matured past the point of referencing "The Matrix", have you?

  • Nov. 16, 2005, 7:37 a.m. CST

    Never seen taxi driver.......

    by damned-dirty-ape

    But it was shit. I'd rant about it like some of the more comitted geeks on here but i can't be arsed.

  • Nov. 16, 2005, 8:49 a.m. CST

    "Dammit Ratner, just show us the helmet."

    by DocPazuzu

    That's just so.... wrong.

  • Nov. 16, 2005, 8:56 a.m. CST

    Hulk, Taxi driver, Fight club and spiderman

    by BendersShinyAss

    I must be watching different movies to most of you guys here. Hulk was only successful in '1' way to me -- It made me full of rage and I was this close to burning down the cinema. Instead I just went and demanded my money back. They didn't give it to me :( Taxi Driver, I don't know if it's the 70's new york style shoot or what, but that film is just ugly. If it was made with the production values of 'fight club' you may have something. But thats a big 'may'. As for Spiderman 3. I sure as hell hope it has 'something' new to it. I liked the first one just fine (except for that tacked on re-write of an ending because of all the 11/9/01 hoohar) but that sequel was just a big squshy wast of my time. Maybe I'm slipping in my older age but I just couldn't get into that Mary Jane peter parker wingeing crap. Nor could I buy into those tentacals on DocOck giving that 'surprised' reaction when he decided he'd had enough of their control. Oh, and how many people discovered Spidermans true identity. He doesn't need the suite anymore! oh well.

  • Nov. 16, 2005, 11:56 a.m. CST

    Juggernaut's Helmet

    by Shermdawg

    I walked right into that one, didn't I?

  • Nov. 16, 2005, 1:19 p.m. CST


    by DocPazuzu

    If it's any consolation, I did the same thing in last week's edition of Mori's DVD column, albeit concerning Space: Above and Beyond and not X3.

  • Nov. 16, 2005, 3:34 p.m. CST


    by rabban

    who brought a gun to spiderman 3? who shoot who? what kinda gun was it? ...DAMNIT!!! that title is misleading!

  • Nov. 16, 2005, 3:47 p.m. CST

    Alicia Witt?

    by rabban

    I know i'm late and all but spiderman can't handle her she is just way out of his league...and spiderman in the movies is such a pussy whipped boy that he losses his powers over his addiction to mary jane lol. the adding of venom is cool and all but it's also so wrong because by the time venom is introduced spiderman is well a the movies...spiderman is still pussy whipped petter parker...if this is the last movie peter parker should have a off screen evolution.

  • quick, before he discovers "obsequious" tomorrow.

  • Nov. 16, 2005, 5:49 p.m. CST

    The reason why Pitt was in Fight Club

    by Doc_Strange

    In one of the scenes, he tells Jack that he (Pitt) looks the way he wants himself to look, fuck like he wants to fuck, etc. It wasn't about being ugly or pretty but it was, in a sense an idealized version of himself as a changed person. I don't know but I would guess people wouldn't want to envision themselves as being ugly or wanting to be ugly, but I see the point made that it had to be a pretty boy on all those topics about improving your life, a real man, and masturbation being self-improvement. One more thing, I don't know if Fight Club was written after Usual Suspects but the ending didn't come off to me like that at all, whereas with Suspects, I kind of got the feeling that Spacey's character knew too much about Soze to not be him.

  • Nov. 16, 2005, 7:31 p.m. CST

    ringbearer, why buy a dictionary

    by ashhole

    when there's for free?

  • Nov. 16, 2005, 8:23 p.m. CST


    by Meremoth

    What Matrix Referrence? Aha you assumed I was refferencing the matrix and not asking if you wanted a blue or red pill. Apparently you take purple pills on mushroom Mountain, instead of red or blue.

  • Nov. 16, 2005, 10:31 p.m. CST

    Is the Spider-Mobile Going to Be in this Movie?

    by smorris09

    That was some cheesy shit.

  • Nov. 16, 2005, 11:52 p.m. CST

    Topher Grace SHOULD be Spider-Man!

    by Carl XVI Gustaf

    Not "I'm too lazy to bulk up for Spidey2, so they'll just have to pad my suit so I look like I have shoulders!". And more wisecracking! But Spidey2 was fun anyway! And HULK was great! And I actually enjoyed F4! Life is great! X1 was like a teaser for a video game! Hope they make IRON MAN with Johnny Depp as alco Tony! Xena should bulk up and play SHe-Hulk in a crazy sci-fi adventure! F2 should be mostly in the Forbidden Zone(is that the name?)! Make SW1 the Prologue and make a new SW3 with suited DV, Then make an epilogue with Luke as obi-wan beard type guy teaching kids jedi ways, one of the kids turn dark jedi and we'll have to slice him up good!

  • Nov. 17, 2005, 3:10 p.m. CST


    by Fugazi32

    Rock on!!

  • Nov. 17, 2005, 9:35 p.m. CST

    "Where's the next Fight Club? Or Taxi Driver?"

    by PurityOfEssence

    It's called: In the Name of the King: A Dungeon Siege Tale