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Different Look at GHOST RIDER - looking good

Hey folks, Harry here -- Heroi Magazine in Brazil got the first look at this and apparently they've seen moving footage - which begs the question... how long till Sony hits us with a full fledged GHOST RIDER teaser trailer? Thanks goes to Marcum - Who I think reads SuperHeroHype.Com too. Skull still looks a bit too CG-ish - but, what does a non-charring flaming living skull look like? Is it ever supposed to look natural? Or Supernatural and what does real supernatural look like? CG? or PRACTICAL?

Picture Removed At The Request of SONY!

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  • Nov. 13, 2005, 6:16 a.m. CST

    We shall see

    by Smerph

    Looks a bit lame

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 6:22 a.m. CST

    still looks like shit

    by AGE IIX


  • Nov. 13, 2005, 6:22 a.m. CST


    by DECKERS

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 6:23 a.m. CST

    or not....

    by DECKERS

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 6:42 a.m. CST

    by zekmoe

    as well as it's sister, are the slowest loading, filled with spyware and flash popup sites on the non porn web. It's almost impossible to navigate that site without a battle plan.

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 6:44 a.m. CST

    mmmmmm undead leather gay-bondage

    by LargoJr

    Now THATS the way to target your core audience... I can almost SMELL the Ben-Gay & Patrolium Jelly.

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 6:50 a.m. CST

    Better than Gay-Superman at least!

    by Mallestarion

    But that does not say alot....

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 6:50 a.m. CST

    I hope his "eyes" aren't lit up all the time...

    by Nexus-6

    It could end up looking rather cartoony. Of course his eyes did light up in the early 90's comics when he did his "penance stare" thing, or whatever it was. I don't have high expectations for this film, mostly due to the "quality" of Daredevil, but I'm sure I'll give it a rent at some point.

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 6:51 a.m. CST

    it's in the eyes....

    by bunkhousejb9

    I think making him have eyes actually makes him actually seem like he has a shred of humanity in him still. I mean come on...the eyes are one of the most obvious signs of showing emotion, and I think letting ghost rider have fiery eyes lets the audience know that there is still a shred of humanity left in johnny blaze. imagine if the eyes WERENT included. he'd look different. it would be more cold, and indifferent. i'm not saying putting eyes in him is a good thing or a bad thing, but an interesting call. but i'll say this...he looks more of a badass in that pic w/ them in!!!

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 7:01 a.m. CST

    Brought to you by Miracle Pictures -

    by 3 Bag Enema

    If it's a good picture, it's a Miracle!

  • ... means you actually need to finish your Malto-meal BEFORE posting here young man!!! BACK TO THE TABLE WITH YOU!!

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 7:08 a.m. CST

    Looks good to me

    by Rodimus Ben

    Hell of a lot better than the stupid mini-series they have coming out right now, anyway. I don't know how realistic people expect a man with a flaming skull for a head to be, but I'm getting pretty sick of all this "it looks too CG" crap. We are living in the era of the most convincing visual effects ever created, and all you can say is "it looks too CG?"

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 7:22 a.m. CST

    Nic Cage..

    by perromaldito

    does nothing for me anymore, where

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 7:23 a.m. CST

    Actually its actually...

    by bunkhousejb9

    wee hours of the morning me stupid like i am talk...drunk to when i am ACTUALLY's that?

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 7:41 a.m. CST

    RE: Nic Cage

    by Incomplete Gamer

    Nic Cage was AMAZING in Adaptation. That's really all I have to say about that.

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 7:48 a.m. CST

    Nic Cage has a lifetime pass

    by liljuniorbrown

    He was in Raising Arizona and Face/Off. Thats enough for me.

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 8:09 a.m. CST

    Nic Cage is awful

    by Drunken Rage

    A "free pass"? Not from me. "The Weather Man", "Amos and Andrew", "It Could Happen to You," "Matchstick Men", "8mm", "Guarding Tess", "Gone in 60 Seconds", "The Family Man", "City of Angels." Nope, no free pass from me.

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 8:10 a.m. CST

    Bad choice

    by perromaldito

    and to think tha he almost made Superman, not that i like that Routh fellow much, but image a bold tired looking supes!!

  • they man only shines in roles that require his 'slack-jawed' vacant stare and occasional fits of spastic hand flinging. He delivers all of his lines in that same nasal monotone, and just when you think his eyes might actually express some kind of real emotion, he starts flinging his hands around instead. The man sucks bread crumbs from a toaster as far as I'm concerned.

  • The only reent movie I can thik of to even come close to it's magnificent stinktatude would be 'Sahara'... try and deny it biznatches! Darth Largo bears the Word Of Truth!!!

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 8:59 a.m. CST

    A Taco Bell tie-in would be great. What a great promotion for a

    by JDanielP

    I'm not a fan of HOTWINGS but this movie interests me.

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 8:59 a.m. CST

    When are we going to get some more pictures of Eva Mendes?

    by Osmosis Jones

    She'll be the only reason to sit through this crapola.

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 9:01 a.m. CST

    Nic Cage and Peter Fonda are acting royalty...

    by BannedOnTheRun

    ...and in Ghost Rider, they continue to flame!

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 9:04 a.m. CST

    I think they need to get Richard Simmons to play Johnny Blaze!

    by LargoJr

    Flah-HAME ahhhhhnnn.. oh SAILOR!

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 9:07 a.m. CST

    Looks okay

    by Ribbons

    It's whatever. I don't actually know what a "real" skull looks like but I get the feeling that one is a little too fake looking. Besides for that, I guess it's fine.

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 9:14 a.m. CST


    by Darth Philbin

    = comedy gold = free pass.

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 9:15 a.m. CST

    Is that his tail ?....

    by Scroo|oose

    Never heard of Ghost Rider tbh..... looks like it could be fun

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 9:16 a.m. CST

    I'm not even a fan, and I'm impressed

    by Monkey Chops

    'Nuff said.

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 9:22 a.m. CST

    Nic Cage has the emotional range of Terri Shiavo.

    by Citizen Arcane

    But if he's going to be a flaming skull most of the time anyway, what the hell.

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 9:25 a.m. CST

    look like the same pic from months ago...

    by sith-vol

    ...except he's facing forward in this one. This thing is going to be one big flaming turd. Cage is awful, I hear he actually wears most of his own clothes in this, (which gives me a bit more info than needed bout Cage). So far the only thing that looks cool is the freakin bike. Should have just did an American Chopper episode and saved the money.

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 9:39 a.m. CST

    Cage and his free pass........

    by Mel Garga

    He gets one for NOT being in Legends of the Fall. Not that he was even offered a part but what the hell...

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 9:44 a.m. CST

    Oh this is going to bomb in ways no one thought possible...

    by jimmy_009

    ...Does anyone involved in this project realize how retarded this looks? A guy with a flaming skull head riding a flaming motorcycle? That might fly in the comics, but on the big screen it looks insanely stupid. Spikes coming out of his leather jacket? Stabby chains flying around? When did they decide to make a movie out of an Iron Maiden album cover? Can't wait to see this one tank.

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 10:03 a.m. CST

    This is a fake, according to CS/SHH...

    by Nivek666

    You better take this down and reserch Sony, because the Mod's on SHH said it was a well made fake.

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 10:04 a.m. CST

    Setting his skull on fire? What other voodoo idiocy will Cage tr

    by SalvatoreGravano revert his baldness?

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 10:07 a.m. CST

    This looks so bad it reminds me of the Spawn movie.

    by llac9

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 10:26 a.m. CST

    looks good to me. kind of manga-inflected.

    by Chief Redcock

    as far as the visuals are concerned, this is probably as good as we have reason to expect. i think this may be okay... unlike apparently most of the basement wankers on this site, i actually like nicholas cage, and ghost rider comics are an old favorite from childhood. this definitely looks more like the revamped ghost rider than the original (the original's my fave), but hopefully with cage being "johnny blaze" they're willing to combine the best of both worlds. one remaining question: will this actually be dark, or are we getting the dickless version a la punisher? the poster seems to indicate the former... that's what i'm hoping for, but there's always the kiddy market to keep in mind.

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 10:47 a.m. CST

    You know you'll see it.

    by slone13

    You all went to see Fantastic 4.

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 10:55 a.m. CST

    I didn't see Fantastic 4.

    by Citizen Arcane

    I'm not seeing this either until it's on HBO, maybe. It's enough already with the comic book movies. Boring backstory. Good guy gets powers. Bad guy gets powers. Bad guy hatches scheme. Good guy goes on a montage using his new powers to fight crime. Good guy and Bad guy meet. Girl gets kidnapped. Good guy saves girl and beats bad guy. Sequel setup. Wash. Rinse. Repeat. We get it already. They're really starting to scrape the bottom of the super hero barrel too.

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 11:03 a.m. CST

    I didn't see F4 either...

    by jimmy_009

    ...and there's no way I'd see this crap.

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 11:16 a.m. CST

    Zathura tanks, taking in only 14 mil this weeked.

    by Batutta

    Let's see how long Mr. Favreau stays on John Carter, or will he "leave the project" like Mr. Conran did.

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 11:27 a.m. CST

    looks rad without the glowing eyes

    by BlackJackDavey

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 11:41 a.m. CST

    I got more hope for this than X3 or Supes.

    by Shermdawg

    Nuff said. Nuff said.

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 11:46 a.m. CST

    what next?

    by ikkyu

    "Green Cross Code Man: The Movie"? "Superman: The Highschool Years"? Oh wait...

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 11:52 a.m. CST

    Christ, I haven't posted here all year...

    by TheSumOfGod

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 11:56 a.m. CST

    More hope for this than X3 or Supes? You know I

    by llac9

    Who the hell knows Ghost Rider? I didn

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 11:59 a.m. CST

    Christ, I haven't posted here all year... (LONG VERSION)

    by TheSumOfGod

    F'ing enter hey. Anyways, Superhero Hype is down (the site sucks, but the Boards are fun), so I'm reduced to posting here in the AICN TB (the only good part of THIS f'ing site are the reviews). Ghost Rider is gonna suck, I'm not being a hater, but Nick Cage + shitty CGI flaming skull = garanteed suckage. Superman Returns and X3 don't seem too hot either, so what's left for 2006? The War in IRAN might be fun to watch on TV. Unless you're an American, then the DRAFT is gonna suck for than Ghost Rider ever could.

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 12:09 p.m. CST

    Ghost Rider or Pillow Biter? You be the judge

    by LargoJr

    It just looks a bit "oooo look at me pose" ish. Like the lame-ass Men's Fitness mags that is just thinly veiled legal gay porn. You know your thinking it too.. cowards and coffee drinkers ALL

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 12:16 p.m. CST

    Evil White Man is right...

    by TheSumOfGod

    The Jurassic Park CGI looked PERFECT, and 11 years later we STILL have plastic-looking shitty CGI in most movies. WTF?! Spielberg always gets the best effects. Just look at WOTW. He must be an Illuminati or something.

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 12:17 p.m. CST

    this can't be real.

    by jrbarker

    looks like a vidya game

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 12:28 p.m. CST

    The flaming skull we saw for a few seconds in The Fifth Element

    by TheSumOfGod

    And THAT flaming skull came out of an evil shadow planet and swallowed a whole spaceship.

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 12:40 p.m. CST

    PG13 = shit

    by Veraxus

    Don't even think about getting your hopes up, the studio has already fucked this up worse than The Punisher.

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 12:44 p.m. CST

    Listen, Ghost Rider can't even make it as a comic book, so..

    by TheSumOfGod

    What did you expect? I think that Marvel's reign at the box-office officially ended with Batman Begins, and shall diw of a horriblw death with Tom Rothman's X3 next year. Even Spidey 3 sounds terrible so far (not that Spidey 2 was any good... SENTIANT TENTACLES?!!! I still can't get over it).

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 12:56 p.m. CST

    I can't believe Harry had the balls to write "looking good"

    by TheSumOfGod

    Harry, I love ya, you insane hyper-geek, but that pic is the exact opposite of "cool".

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 12:59 p.m. CST

    There needs to be an Infinite Crisis AICN Decimation Event

    by mortsleam

    Not that I don't agree that Cage has squandered his talent with crappy crappy movies, or that Mark Steven Johnson instills me with everything except confidence in his ability to deliver a decent movie, or that Marvel's recent trackrecord is pretty poor, but the sheer amount of petty hateful negativism here is SICKENING. And none of you are even funny. Most of you are annoying at best, but no more relevant or memorable than a fruitfly buzzing over a garbage disposal. Half of the talkbackers here need to go away. Permanently. Now. *** That said, this movie looks like shit. Ghost Rider (indeed, almost every comic property) doesn't seem so hard to get right, why do they seem to go out of their way to get it so wrong? It will probably be better than Daredevil, mainly because the lead is only slightly less overexposed, and because he actually seems to fit the part and isn't woefully miscast. The flaming skull effect looks pretty good. If the script is haflway decent, and the action passable, then maybe Peter Fonda will be able to save this thing.

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 1:08 p.m. CST

    Even IF this movie was being made as an absolute masterpiece and

    by TheSumOfGod

    I don't think it would matter. Ghost Rider is only good as a Deus Ex Machina at the end of a Fantastic Four comic book in order to give Galactus the Penitance Stare. Or was that an episode of the animated series?

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 1:17 p.m. CST


    by blackwood

    Ghost Rider (the Dan Kletch years) got me into comics. I want this to be a good film. Strike one - Nic Cage. Over him in his hangdog-hero mode. Strike two - Mark Steven Johnson, and his comment that he was surprised at how funny the movie turned out. Ha. Ha. Any director 'surprised' by the tone of his own film should be forced to sit the corner. On fire. Strike three - GR has never been really strong in the story department - dubious Canon, which could be exploited to create a definative story. Marks for Peter Fonda as the Devil, Eva Mendes replacing "generic-lilly-white-blondeshell" (still likely generic, less white), and hey, I still think GR is cool. The new mini is decent if nothing new. Here's hoping.

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 1:18 p.m. CST

    Oh, and...

    by blackwood

    ...the image doesn't look all that great. Hope it's a fake.

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 1:23 p.m. CST

    Get rid of glowing eyes

    by stlfilmwire

    I know they are worried about it looking lifeless... but it IS A SKULL HEAD! Get rid of the glowing eyes.

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 1:41 p.m. CST


    by uberman

    COuld have done w/out the chains and whips stuff comming out of his back. Says 'SPAWN'.

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 2:28 p.m. CST

    Meh, call me when they do Ghost Rider 2099.

    by Horseflesh

    That was fun times.

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 2:38 p.m. CST

    real supernatural looks like practical.

    by Mr Brownstone

    love the current corner animation.

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 2:52 p.m. CST


    by Rcamacho2278

    That guy was a great wrestler. A legend. WTF happened??? they didn't say how he died

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 3:06 p.m. CST

    hate to contribute to the hijacking of a thread, but

    by themikejonas

    I'm sorry to hear about Guerrero as well. Guerrero was one of those wrestlers who clearly gave his all in his performances, and his body has taken a lot of punishment for it. I wouldn't be surprised if his history with substance abuse was a factor in his death, but I hope that it isn't because of a relapse.

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 3:40 p.m. CST

    mr, you know that, or are you being glib?

    by blue1622

    and as someone else said above...I've got much higher hopes for this than X3 or Superman Returns. Weather Man and Lord of War are both in my top 10 of '05 (so far.)

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 3:43 p.m. CST

    That single image is cooler than anything we've seen from KO

    by indiephantom

    and if your skull was on fire, of course you see flames through your empty eye-sockets...hence the glow, morons.

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 3:48 p.m. CST

    If your skull was on fire, would it look like a skull on fire...

    by TheSumOfGod

    or would it look CGI, hun?

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 3:59 p.m. CST

    About that Los Gringos Locos reunion.

    by Pops Freshemeyer

    Uncle Eddy wasn't using's just the years of steroids caught up to him and he had a heart attack. Fucking guy. Oh yeah, Ghost Rider will suck. Cage is one of the worst actors working today. Even worse than Paris Hilton...

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 4:04 p.m. CST

    Who ya gonna call?

    by DrManhattansUnit

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 4:22 p.m. CST

    Doc Ghock

    by odysseus

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 4:24 p.m. CST

    What are you expecting?

    by Ender's Jeesh

    It's a freakin' GHOST RIDER movie for chrissakes. And yes, photo is still better than anything I've seen of KONG so far. What a non-event. GR will do 15-17 million opening weekend then crash like almost every other comic book movie ever made. Daredevil is mildly underrated, so I hope MS Johnson has learned a lesson and does a little better with this, though I wish he'd done this first before underselling DD. Kong will suck balls.

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 4:26 p.m. CST

    Matchstick Men...

    by Ender's Jeesh a fucking great movie. Come out of your basement, blink into the sun and realize a movie doesn't need dwarves and Orcs and a giant monkey to "own your ass."

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 4:26 p.m. CST


    by ZombieSolutions

    how great would it be if they framed this in the context of the 70s era biker/junkie trailer park mileau? of course they won't, but, how cool would that be? sorta like THE DEVILS REJECTS, but with superheros... in a perfect world... a world without cringing fearful hollywood types...

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 4:28 p.m. CST

    I concur w/ BlackJackDavey...

    by LUZER

    You lose the glowing eyes and it looks a thousand times better.

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 4:56 p.m. CST

    Whats wrong with you people.

    by modlight

    What do you expect from a movie about a flaming skull that rides motorcycles. I think it looks badass, and exactly like the Comic.

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 5:05 p.m. CST

    you know a film is going to be big when haters..

    by slappy jones

    ...bring it up on forums COMPLETELY unrelated to it..and yes i am talking about the kong is all you haters can think about isn't are obsessed with it and you will see it opening night probably....and anyone who says that image of ghost rider looks better than KONG is a liar..they are just so twisted in their hate for KONG that they are now lying for no good reason other than the fact that they hate kong regardless of how ridiculous they sound (kind of like fact i always said that citizen arcane was the limbaugh of the boards but it is just you kong haters in general) are going to hate kong no matter what....i mean you are so obsessed with it you have brought it up here in a fucking ghost rider board..... having said all of that i hope ghost rider is good...i don't like the look of that picture personally but I love the comic and i hope they do it well...i will reserve any comment on its box office chances when i have seen ..i dunno...maybe some ACTUAL FOOTAGE you fucking retarded haters.....jesus this site gets worse and worse and worse with you pricks...oh and this is harrys site..he created it so he can say and do whatever the fuck he wants...i don't understand people who still criticize him for his reviews and writing...we know what we are going to get from him so if you don't like it go fact....heres an idea why don't you haters make a site for yourselves where you can go and talk about how every single film coming out is going to suck...i have even thought up a name for it for you

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 5:15 p.m. CST

    I've got a soft spot for flaming skulls.

    by Evil Chicken

    I kinda dig it. I'll be there.

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 5:28 p.m. CST


    by occams_razor

    So one time my girlfriend and I are having a fight and I just glare at her cause I'm so pissed off and she looks at me and says, "Fuck you and your penance stare!" I busted out laughing that she actually knew what that was and used it in an argument. I heart my girlfriend. Oh, and chances are the movie will be lame but it would be pretty cool if they did it right.

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 5:37 p.m. CST

    Why do you KONG lovers...

    by indiephantom

    always think that everyone who isn't masturbating to that monkey is pathetic?

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 5:54 p.m. CST

    I'm not the only one who thinks Daredevil was underrated.

    by Citizen Arcane

    I mean it wasn't high art but I think it had its moments and was unfairly maligned because Affleck is kind of a choad. Like I said, I didn't see FF but based on the trailers and the script I'm pretty sure DD was better. As for Kong, damn, the haters are really egtting irritating. I think it's an unecessary film but it's being made and so far it looks pretty good for what it is so get another hobby. Hate on this instead, it really does look gay.

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 6:05 p.m. CST

    i hate to sound like a fanboy, but... Matchstick Men = Pure Owna

    by Chief Redcock

    if you don't like that film, you have a pee hole in place of a dick

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 6:14 p.m. CST

    Eyes on fire

    by PelvicBoogie

    Too much all the time. I think they should look like lich eyes most of the time. Tiny red pinpoints of light. And Kong wasn't that great the first 2 times. I never saw the appeal in a giant gorilla. Now if Kong kicked gay Superman's ass, that would be okay.

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 6:17 p.m. CST

    "Matchstick Men"...saw that final twist a mile away

    by indiephantom

    Why not talk about the "real" Cage films: Wild at Heart, Leaving Las Vegas, his fucking Opie impression in Peggie Sue Got Married...remove your heads from your respectful anuses and groove to what the man once was and is no more.

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 6:26 p.m. CST


    by Johnny Storm

    This isn't even a real photograph! I'm sure this is fan art. Superherohype even said so! Get with it Harry and get the real stuff!

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 6:29 p.m. CST

    I liked 'Matchstick Men' too

    by Ribbons

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 6:30 p.m. CST

    Looks pretty good to me...

    by JackKennedy

    I've always thought GhostRider could be one of the coolest comics to movies. And I liked Daredevil as well (the Director's Cut) which was a very different movie IMHO.

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 6:31 p.m. CST

    The thing about the SFX...

    by Ribbons

    ...this movie wrapped in, like, July. It comes out either next July or August. That means it has/d an entire YEAR of post-production. A year. Most films don't get that luxury. They had so much time to try and get the CGI right, and if they didn't that either means that animating Ghost Rider is trickier than it looks or Sony's effects department blows.

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 6:40 p.m. CST

    We Need A Retro-Ghost Rider

    by BlueMax

    Circa the 1950's, I think. The music's better, the look, the vibe. It would have it all... alas we will be getting nothing more than the usual modern comic-book-turned-into-a-movie crap that we usually get. Nick Cage? C'mon!

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 6:47 p.m. CST

    Ghost Rider Kicks Ass

    by PeterPeterPeter

    I really think this film will own. But why the Cage hating? I always thought he was fearless. Even if his movies bomb, he's alwys good.

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 6:55 p.m. CST

    It looks like Ghostrider.

    by Thirteen 13

    Not really interested in it because I know they are going to dumb it down big time and change the story in order to get the idiots that love a good "popcorn" movie (which translates into the movie sucks)to see it. As far as Kong goes. Like it or not, unless Peter Jackson seriously screws up (which is highly unlikely) Kong is going to absolutely clean up at the box office and be a contender at the oscars.

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 7:08 p.m. CST

    Looks like photo shop to me...


    I would be very surprised if this was really an official photograph from the movie.

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 7:37 p.m. CST

    Okay, okay...

    by Ender's Jeesh

    I'll stop hating on KONG til I see it, but it really is unnecessary. Matchstick Men was so good on so many levels. VERY underrated and one of Cage's best performances. Glad others agree that DD was on okay movie and that this one will most likely be decent at worst.

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 7:41 p.m. CST

    It will look better.

    by Shermdawg

    If you remember, the cgi in the teaser for Hulk wasn't that hot. But it turned out for the most part, decent, special effects wise. A few transitional scenes were awkward, i.e. when he turned into The Hulk. When he turned back into Banner it was perfect though. Just wait till the official trailer next spring, summer till you knock the special effects. Casting, script, those you can complain about. Speaking of changing special effects in teasers, does Kong look different to anyone? Or is it just me? In the scene where he saves Ann from the T-rex, he looks skinnier/meaner or sumthin. P.S.: R.I.P. EDDIE *bows head*

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 7:57 p.m. CST


    by Jarados

    I didn't know this was a mid-90's direct-to-video animated special!

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 7:58 p.m. CST

    It's fake dumbasses.

    by johnhawks

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 7:59 p.m. CST


    by johnhawks

    Do you really think they would use artwork from a comic? No. That god awful font? HELL NO. EVERY Marvel movie has released the LOGO before the poster. :)

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 8:01 p.m. CST

    How about a RIP thread for Eddie Guerrero?

    by Beaker316

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 8:28 p.m. CST

    sorry to disappoint ringbearer but i have no idea how to stretch

    by slappy jones

    i fucking hate it when that happens. what did i do to make you think i was trying to. how do you do it? and as for the guy who said why do kong lovers get in a tizzy when people aren't masterbating over it or whatever the fuck he said.....i don't give a fuck if you aren't interested in it or if you think it looks like shit everyone is entitled to their opinion...i didn't bring it up here someone else did. i was merely pointing out that the haters are more obsessed with it than the lovers. i could not, for one minute, think of a way to bring up KONG on the ghost rider talkback...and i didn't have to because lo and behold...haters talking about KONG on a totally unrelated page. mayebe you should just relax a little and you know you what....when you see it you might actually enjoy it - actually wait a minute..what am i saying...this is aint it cool news....everything is going to suck.

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 8:50 p.m. CST


    by LeckoManiac

    Eddie Guerrero "Viva la raza!" you will be missed.

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 9:15 p.m. CST

    Looks like an old Hulk Hogan outfit

    by RezE11even


  • Nov. 13, 2005, 9:32 p.m. CST


    by InspectorDoppler

    Mark my words. Even if they get the skull looking cool (which it doesn't - it looks like the logo for an energy drink) from the trailer that was up it just looks like a bad movie.

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 10:44 p.m. CST

    But it looks so fake

    by BendersShinyAss

    Thats my only problem.

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 11:21 p.m. CST

    I'll represent....

    by proper

    Eddies title win over Brock Lesner at No Way Out on February 15, 2004 was one of my favourite matches over the past few years.That match represents Wrestling as well as anything you will see in the genre.Despite the sad circumstances,I'm glad Eddie went away with the fans loving him and from a storyline point of view the benefit of the doubt :).That guy had many quality matches,Smackdown has a huge hole to fill at Survivor Series.I hope Chavo is allowed to drop the Kerwin stupidness and represent correctly.Wrestling=A tough life.....Later on Eddie.....

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 11:45 p.m. CST

    It's poster art, that's not how it's going to look i

    by Citizen Arcane

    ...I'm assuming.

  • and he has a real love and passion for Ghost Rider (he's NOT just a director-for-hire) so I really think this film will surprise the haters. I'm looking forward to it. Cage also loves Ghost Rider and admits to reading the comics during the 70's.

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 11:57 p.m. CST

    Best line EVER delivered by Nic Cage:

    by Doom II

    "Like, fuck you, fer sure. Like.... totally!"---Valley Girl

  • Nov. 13, 2005, 11:57 p.m. CST

    Nic Cage wants to play a major comic book character so bad it&#3

    by Rant Breath

    Does this guy think of anybody but himself? Miscasting himself as Johnny Blaze knowing their are far better suited actors, branding a child Kal-el for the rest of his life because of a personal hobby, and marrying someone simply because he idolizes their father(Elvis).He's a egomaniacal douchebag. What other balding man with a sagging face looks in the mirror and thinks he's worthy to play Superman.

  • Nov. 14, 2005, 12:08 a.m. CST

    Looks More Like The Crypt Keeper

    by prajadhipok

    Nic Cage, not Ghost Rider

  • Nov. 14, 2005, 12:18 a.m. CST

    I thinkit stilllookslikecrap, especially the font.

    by Proman1984

    And the scull loks fake.

  • Nov. 14, 2005, 12:51 a.m. CST


    by krullboy

    Search your feelings, you know it to be true.

  • Nov. 14, 2005, 1:05 a.m. CST

    I just showed my nephew Episode 3

    by BendersShinyAss

    It owned his ass until Anikin turned into Vador. He keeps asking me why did Anakin turn into Vador. He gets it, he just doesn't that it happened. I thought that was interesting.

  • Nov. 14, 2005, 1:09 a.m. CST

    Doesn't like that it happened... that is

    by BendersShinyAss

    Anyway back on topic. This looks like cover art for a computer game. Surely Marvel and Columbia have the dosh to bring it 'to life' rather than just get a small team to animate it in their over the counter 3-d studio software. It's tricky, but it's not hard to composit 'real' photographed elements.

  • Nov. 14, 2005, 1:28 a.m. CST

    RE: The Garth Ennis Mini Series Going On Right Now.

    by buster00

    It Sucks. Fuckin' book SUCKS. That very FACT sucks because it SHOULD have been cool. Didn't you expect Ennis to know how to write a better Ghost Rider story? He's just reaching back into the same old bag of "Preacher" tricks. I HAD TO UNLOAD ON COMPLETE CYBER STRANGERS, AND I PICKED YOU, GOD DAMN IT!!

  • Nov. 14, 2005, 3:55 a.m. CST

    spawn deja vu

    by Ali786

    feels like spawn to me..and we all know how great that was...

  • Nov. 14, 2005, 4:21 a.m. CST


    by Ribbons

    Well if you were a little kid and without any allegiance to Star Wars canon, would you want to see it happen? The good guy becomes Darth Vader? I probably wouldn't.

  • Nov. 14, 2005, 4:41 a.m. CST

    It's Udo Dirkschneider!

    by CrispyOne

  • Nov. 14, 2005, 5:03 a.m. CST

    Hell, Yes, CrispyOne!

    by buster00

    "You Gotcha BALLS TO THE WALL...!" It must be time for Headbangers Ball!

  • Nov. 14, 2005, 5:15 a.m. CST


    by whatyoufear

    i'd rather watch this all day-

  • Nov. 14, 2005, 5:18 a.m. CST

    To hell with CG

    by Hell_Bender

    Ditch the CG and just actually set fire to the father of Kal-El's head. It would be realistic looking and you'd really believe his performance. Then I would definitely watch it.

  • Nov. 14, 2005, 5:28 a.m. CST

    Come to think about it.

    by Hell_Bender

    The only movies Nic Cage is in that I like are ones where he dies or suffers in some way.

  • Nov. 14, 2005, 5:35 a.m. CST


    by themanlikedave

    With regards to people saying that the cgi in JP still holds up today, er, have you seen the film lately?, NO IT FUCKING DOESN'T. The stampede of those dinos looks so bad now I find it painful, and all the good T-Rex attack stuff with the jeeps?, hate to break it to you kids, mostly puppets(albeit fucking BIG puppets).

  • Both will suck like a $2 whore on a slow saturday night. Dickhead, No Talent Jack Black being signed on, and Mr. 'I can't make a movie unless it's CGI' Peter Jackson clinched it. This will suck the nads right out of your sack, and none of you will have the courage to admit it until its all over but the crying.

  • Nov. 14, 2005, 6:36 a.m. CST


    by themanlikedave

    Feel better now mate?

  • Nov. 14, 2005, 6:37 a.m. CST

    Well anything can look cool when it's only a drawing!

    by Trazadone

    This tells us nothing.

  • Nov. 14, 2005, 7:07 a.m. CST

    Everybodys opinions are dead on

    by liljuniorbrown

    No actor alive has ever batted a thousand,even the great ones throw a few suck jobs out there every once and a while. Nic Cage is a talented actor,it's just fucking true.Some of his movies suck very hard,but to me in my warped mind the free pass still stands.Thats even after his absolute vomit inducing "southern accent" in ConAir,that southern accent ,only recently outdone by Alicia Silverstone's in BeautyShop,is the worst accent i have ever heard period.That bitch has no acting skills at all,but Nic Cage was H.I fucking Macdunna. Please,atleast admit Rasing Arizona is comedy gold like The Big Lebowski and then i can get some sleep.One last rant MSJ is a comic geek and Daredevil the directors cut was a good flick. Colin Ferrel over did it and i could have gone without Elektra altogether and limited KingPin,but the movie was not as bad as people make it to be.We've been burned by Marvels adaptations worse than any "flaming skull" so i understand the hate and the "this is gonna suck" posts.In the mean time DC needs Superman to rule ass and that much promised Ryan Renolds Flash movie to keep there streak alive.

  • Nov. 14, 2005, 7:22 a.m. CST

    looks like above average fan art

    by Rupee88

    just looks too fake

  • Nov. 14, 2005, 7:50 a.m. CST

    It's Spawn's Little Brother!

    by IAmMrMonkey

    Oh. Dear.

  • Nov. 14, 2005, 7:54 a.m. CST

    What is with all the Spawn jokes?

    by Ribbons

    He looks exactly like he does in the comic books.

  • Nov. 14, 2005, 8:19 a.m. CST

    looks like the DVD artwork for a movie that would premiere on th

    by Big Bad Clone

    I really liked Daredevil when I saw it on opening day. I say it on FX the other day and was less impressed. The movie starts off pretty damn well. So well, I dismissed the playground scene. Bullseye was watchable enough get past that silly street fight. The Electra/DD in the rain bit was good enough to forget about Joey Pants and Kevin Smith parts. But Kingpin played without charisma or even a care in the world? That blew ass.

  • Nov. 14, 2005, 8:29 a.m. CST

    Feel better? [phew] Yeah... actually I DO

    by LargoJr

    Sometimes it feels good to just blurt out what everyone else is thinking, but just wont say. It's a cathartic 'spleen venting' if you will, and it's almost as good as taking a really huge dump ;)

  • Nov. 14, 2005, 8:32 a.m. CST

    Ghostrider looks cool, but...

    by amano

    Nic Cage is a hack, can't stand him as an actor, and he doesn't fit the role of Johnny Blaze at all. I've liked movies that the balding monotone speaking bad actor has done in the past, so maybe I'll like this one, but I really doubt they can make me like him as Blaze. Maybe it's just personal, but I like Cage as much as Matt Parker and Trey Stone like Matt Damon and Ben Afflek. I loved the Ghostrider comic as a kid, still have the first issue but in very bad condition, so here's to hoping.

  • Nov. 14, 2005, 8:35 a.m. CST

    I don't know but...

    by NoLaw4000

    ..doesn't it look like Nic Cage done a Janet Jackson and gained some weight on that picture? And don't tell me it's just "big bones"...

  • Nov. 14, 2005, 9:07 a.m. CST

    I can't wait

    by TheNeth

    for the bit when The Rock shoots him in the face with a BFG, and Pinhead shits in his occular cavities whilst reclaiming his hell-spikes. Delicious!

  • Nov. 14, 2005, 9:51 a.m. CST

    Those spikes look like a Spawn rip-off...

    by lucreangst

    Don't remember them in the orginal comic... and you might laugh, but James Spader as Johnny Blaze... of course, does anyone really care?

  • Nov. 14, 2005, 9:57 a.m. CST

    Nic Cage married Lisa Marie who married Michael Jackson

    by LargoJr

    equals no free passes EVER. To be THAT INCREADIBLY fucked in the head, I dont care HOW good Raising Arizona was... he's just a bat-shit, crazy-insane, fuck-up who got lucky as far as I'm concerned. The only way he could Make it work as Johnny Blaze is to set himself on fire for every scene. MAYBE then I'll enjoy the film, but only if they dont D.A.R. out his screaming.

  • Nov. 14, 2005, 10:02 a.m. CST

    Looks Great!

    by Ivan_Mtl

    I, for one, am very impressed with this image. It kind of reminds me of the flaming skull in the opening sequence of Terminator 2. I saw the bike in San Diego, and I think both comic book fans, and the heavy metal crowd are going to eat this up. There is no way that Nic Cage is going to allow this movie to be anything less than entertaining, and I can't wait to finally see him as a comic book character. I completely buy him as Johnny Blaze. I'm there!!

  • Nov. 14, 2005, 10:25 a.m. CST

    His head is too small

    by Hate_Speech

    looks like his head has been shrunken by Beetlejuice.

  • Nov. 14, 2005, 10:45 a.m. CST

    You know, this might not suck...

    by Childe Roland much as folks think. It's hard to get a sense for the character from a still when fire is such a critical element of his look and fire, by its nature, is such a dynamic thing. I'll need to see a clip of the character in motion. I remember a lot of folks having Hulk reservations (and I shared them) when initial images leaked, but I just watched that movie again (second time) over the weekend and I relaly like the way the character was handled visually. I also liked the story and characterizations far more than I remembered. I now rank Hulk in the same league as the Daredevil Director's Cut (which is a far superior film to the theatrical release) in my "comic movies that didn't suck" category. They aren't optimal comic movies (like both Spider Mans, the original Superman or Batman Begins), but they aren't the misfires the genre has become infamous for (Spawn, SUperman 3, Batman Forever & Robin, etc.). If Ghost Rider takes a similar road to Hulk, I could get into it. Oh...and Nic Cage does, indeed, get a free pass for his work iun "Raising Arizona," not to mention the vastly underrated and ignored by history "Valley Girl."

  • Nov. 14, 2005, 10:46 a.m. CST

    Pics of Ghost Rider from the comic

    by Ribbons

    I'll try to find better/larger examples, but for now, here are these two:, I think he looks basically the same, except the comics version appears to have smaller spikes and denim pants. Again, "costume" changes aren't that big a deal. But, for what it's worth, if he looks like Spawn, he already did in the funnies.

  • Nov. 14, 2005, 12:02 p.m. CST

    I want darkness from this movie, darker than spawn

    by trevorfactor

    I want like twisted metal black dark for this film. Darker than Sin City, butterfly effect and requiem for a dream combined but not as much rape, murder, drugs, prostitution or cannibalism. OK that didn't make sense but I remember this comic as being dark, and I'd like to see the film go that route rather than he's some great hero, kind of thing. yeah ok it's clear to me know - my words have failed me, check please, and please hurry I need to go home and nap

  • Nov. 14, 2005, 12:32 p.m. CST

    Glowing eyes on a flaming skull? How Rediculous!

    by ironburl

    I know that a COMPUTER made that effect and so it looks too CGI to me. It reminds me of Itchy and Scratchy episode 2F09, when Itchy plays Scratchy's skeleton like a xylophone. He strikes the same rib twice in succession, yet he produces two clearly different tones. I mean, what are we to believe, that this is some sort of a magic xylophone or something? Boy, I really hope somebody got fired for that blunder.

  • Nov. 14, 2005, 12:35 p.m. CST

    Nic Cage Amalgam #1

    by David Assholehof

    He's like a cross between Ahnold and Keanu Reeves. One liners but with an old, tired "Dude" attached to it. "I'm a chemical super-freak, sir" The Rock

  • Nov. 14, 2005, 12:52 p.m. CST

    Ghost Rider #67 $.60 dated April 1982

    by trevorfactor

    ok I just flipped thru this comic I had in my small collection and I see no chains. Also he has no control of when the Ghost Rider comes out, but rather it seems to happen when he's getting his human ass kicked by thugs. On a side note his mother sees him in this particular comic for the first time as his demonic self, and gets slapped for trying to stop him from killing a guy (who he's already beaten the crap out of), then it turns focus to Sally Stanton who freaks him out more until he's swinging at her head but it's like smoke he can't hit it, then he gets tired and goes back to being johnny blaze, he calls her a witch, but his mother called her daughter sally stanton, wonder if she'll be in the movie

  • Nov. 14, 2005, 12:59 p.m. CST

    sally stanton says to ghost rider

    by trevorfactor

    "you are the living embodiment of vengence -- the true servant of darkness!" PG-13?? rabble rabble rabble "but there are other forces--other powers - which can manifest themselves on this eathly plane .... some of them are far, far stronger than you -- and, be thankful, more merciful!"

  • Nov. 14, 2005, 1:06 p.m. CST

    I don't know about a free pass, but....

    by oisin5199

    I do know I liked Nic Cage before he started to do way too many movies. No one's mentioned this one, but one of my favorites back in the day was Vampire's Kiss. He was just so damn weird. I loved it. 'Tick Tock!'

  • Nov. 14, 2005, 1:53 p.m. CST

    largojr..can i be your friend....

    by slappy jones

    $2 whore!! ahahahahaha that is genius. how do you come with that stuff?? i am still laughing now. awesome dude. you're the coolest

  • Nov. 14, 2005, 2:52 p.m. CST

    ring HAHA "Because you demanded it: Hawkeye and the Two Gun Kid

    by trevorfactor

    This is the operator I have an urgent call for Two Gun Kid, yeah Fred Flintstone called, he wants his vest back.

  • Nov. 14, 2005, 2:52 p.m. CST

    The 70's Ghost Rider cover helps put the whole thing in pers

    by Stan the Bat

    Look at it this way: they could put 'The Two-Gun Kid' in this movie, too, without making it any sillier than it already is.

  • Nov. 14, 2005, 2:54 p.m. CST

    btw shooting flames from hand

    by trevorfactor

    will he have this comic book characteristic? I imagine not since he's got those chain things, but maybe...

  • Nov. 14, 2005, 2:59 p.m. CST

    The Ghost Rider design....

    by Hunter-X

    Is based off of the 90's version, not the high collar, blue spandex version of the 70's. The bike is an entirely new design. And quite awesome at that. I haven't seen anything yet to make me worry about the quality of this film. Like someone said earlier, they have a year of post-production to get this flick looking right. I sure hope they do.....

  • Nov. 14, 2005, 3:12 p.m. CST

    SONY said this image is Fake! you should pull it!

    by Nivek666

    The mod's on SHH confirmed this, it's not official artwork. I believe it's just done by a fan.

  • Nov. 14, 2005, 3:57 p.m. CST

    damn it, nivek666

    by trevorfactor

    that was a cool picture, even if it was fake. Why did you have to rat us out? now all the people who can't check AICN @ work and have to wait until they get home, don't get to see the cool picture of ghost rider showing us all what that thing was in the suitecase in Pulp Fiction. and just think it's all your fault! herc this time you're in the clear - but don't think that means I stopped keeping my mad eye on you buddy. Everyone thank Nivek666 for f'ing everything up

  • Nov. 14, 2005, 4:19 p.m. CST

    No problem...

    by Nivek666

    Hopefully AICN takes down this pic, and can wait till something real comes out. Reserch, people, research! This thing was on SHH of all places and was tagged as a fake!

  • Nov. 14, 2005, 4:31 p.m. CST

    Most people on this board realized it was fake at first look...

    by jrbarker

    Yet AICN was duped...again.

  • Nov. 14, 2005, 4:48 p.m. CST

    I am kind of amused by...

    by Childe Roland

    ...the "Picture Removed At The Request of SONY!" line, as if Harry and Co. are attempting to legitimize the fake picture by saying THE MAN didn't want us to see it. No explanation that the picture had actually been called a fake by Sony and that the site had, once again, been duped by some geek with time on his hands and Photoshop (who didn't do a terrible job, by the way). Way to try and control the spin during a flaming descent, fellas.

  • Nov. 14, 2005, 7:47 p.m. CST

    I will say, I haven't liked a Nic Cage flick since Raising A

    by Shermdawg

  • Nov. 14, 2005, 8:17 p.m. CST

    Forget the skull; the most impressive special effect, or maybe n

    by Orbots Commander

  • Nov. 14, 2005, 10:52 p.m. CST

    I cant believe Hanks agreed to play Dr. Mingus!!!

    by ChileanSeaBass

    I freakin can't wait! Hanks as the evil Dr. Mingus againest Cage. That the best lineup since newman and douglas!!!..i hears that hanks had to wear 8 hours of prostetics to get the shiny orb of doom to balance on his head!!!

  • When asked about what he thought about this movie, he's also reported as saying "Your numbers up, ain't nothin you can do... when that Black Turd comes at you from out of the darkness and hits your windshield. ----- I think it was in the early 90's, Neil Adams was doing some work for Marvel, and they made the Spirit of Vengance Dan Ketch. He had this Motorcycle with a medalion instead of a gas-cap, and whenever he slapped it, he transformed along with the bike. The stories were goofy as hell, but the art was magnificent.