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The new issue of In Focus Magazine has a wide-ranging interview with Harold Ramis. The “Ice Harvest” director yaks about “Caddyshack,” “Groundhog Day” – and the aborted third “Ghostbusters” movie, which would have sent Peter, Ray and Egon to Hell.
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I don't know if I'm happy or sad that there was no 3rd Ghostbusters. The 2nd one was caca.
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I am so special...
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Missed it
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do not they?
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Read a synopsis of the screenplay. I'm glad it wasn't made after that lazy shitburger that was Ghostbusters II.
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Nov 03, 2005 4:01:41 PM CST
Yes, but do all the geeks know about the GB spin-off novel?
by some dude
I dare someone to read it. Apparently set right after part two, it was only released a year or two ago.
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Nov 03, 2005 4:02:21 PM CST
You read the synopsis? Were the Junior Ghostbusters scientists
by hercules
And what were Annie Potts and Rick Moranis going to do this time around?
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pick the creme a la creme of the current comic actors - hell I'd say put a curmudgeon like Paul Giamatti in the lead and let them loose on a stupidly high budget, ILM on too much sugar, cameos from the original 'busters and a halfway decent director...and then yaya, good times are back again!
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I had no idea about the synopsis of what they wanted to with it. Sounds weird. Everybody does know that they wanted Chris Farley to be in it. Either way, let's throw out a couple of quotes: "alright, who brough the dog?"
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...and that annoys the heck out of me.Hollywood is dead.
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The fourth news story I blogged before it appeard on AICN this week. Down to luck, mainly. And it hardly matters - for all the scoops I put up, I have so few readers...
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Just have new actors reprise the same characters that were in the movies and have continuing story arcs and new ghosts/monsters and i think it would be a good show if done seriously.But with a little light humor thrown in too of course.
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You mean that this sequel would have been made back in the early 90s. Not now. OK, with that cleared up I'd like to say that it would be funny if Ben Stiller played the completely straight macho guy, similiar to his role in Empire of The Sun, and then was hedged into that corner for the rest of his career. And then this new guard would never have come about (Mince Porn, Rowin "I broke my nose fifteen times surfing" Pillson), Dan Akroyd would never have been forced to make the Coneheads, Richard Pryor would still be walking, Buster Keaton's grandson would have started a new wave of slap-stick comedy and Lord Nelson's famous joke about "Sirs, did you ever hear the one about the eight-inch pianist? It's a riot of guffaws I must say!" would enjoy a new Renaissance in this alternative comedy dimension. I think it's safe to say, if Ben Stiller and Chris Farley HAD made The Ghostbuster Babies, the world would have been a much darker and more terrifying a place.
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Nov 03, 2005 4:30:00 PM CST
GoatZinger- There was going to be a Roger Rabbit feature sequel
by renonevada2000
Read what wrong here- http://www.filmbuffonline.com/Features/RogerRabbitII.1.htm and a script review here- http://www.filmbuffonline.com/ReadingRoom/ToonPlatoonReview.htm
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I'd be onboard. It could be about a franchise. Remember in the original movie Venkman was thinking franchise? Could be really funny.
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Nov 03, 2005 4:45:57 PM CST
Ghostbusters could have used some sequels but no remakes, please
by citizen arcane
They could have definitly done more with the characters with sequels but leave alone now. This is the problem with a lot of remakes. First they represent a fundamental lack of creativity or originality but we knew that. But the worst remakes are ones that were based on material that were about the actors. The Honeymooners was about Jackie Gleason. There's no premise to base a remake on. Ghostbusters was about Bill Murray and Dan Akroyd and Harold Ramis riffing on each other. You can't recreate that unless you get them all together and Bill's busy trying to win an Oscar by acting boring and the other two are whatever. So if you want to make a movie about some guys fighting ghosts to comedic results than go do that but don't call it Ghostbusters. Don't worry, there's no such thing as plaigerism in Hollywood, you'll be fine.
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mail me or post it here (if it won't get deleted, or get you banned...)
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Wasn't Farley originally cast as the voice of Shrek? And did he not actually begin work on it?
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(Ben Stiller, Owen Wilson, Luke Wilson, and Vince Vaughn). The plot could revolve around Ray, Egon, and Winston's contemplation about retirement. The Demand for Ghostbusters is still high, so they need to find/recruite replacements. They could scout and select the actors above for replacements. You could even have second unit of Busters with guys who didn't make Ray, Winston and Egon's original cut. Thus, allowing for some hysterical cameos from guys like Will Ferrel, Chris Rock, Andy Dick, Christopher Walken, Steve Carrell, and Jack Black. GHOSTBUSTERS III Partying Down the Road to Perdition!................man ...that's really scary cause I think that would really work. The plausability is very alarming. :^D
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Nov 03, 2005 5:23:45 PM CST
There was no Ghostbusters 2... There was no Ghostbusters 2...
by horseflesh
If I keep saying it I'll believe!
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"the Hawker" is actually "the Honker" - the writer must have misunderstood Ramis. Murray as Honker is also in a deleted scene in Ghostbusters, and was on SNL regularly - but never named on the air.
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is a classic. Bill Murray is a god among men. Did Reitman dis John Hughes in that interview or what? "Could be from Cleveland for all I fucking care, that guy is a douche bag" is what he said or something to that effect.
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stay puff
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I would rather have never known about Ghostbusters 3... that sounds too fucking cool to not exist. :(
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I like the idea of Hell as an alternate reality that you can phase into. It would also be interesting to see a scenario where religious groups are protesting the Ghostbusters for locking up all these souls. But c'est la vie.
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let's see a Green Arrow show with Cary Elwes or Ray Park. Not relevant to anything in the article. I just think it would be a cool idea.
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"do birds bird? do bees bee?"
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Nov 03, 2005 6:37:08 PM CST
No reason why new Ghostbusters can't become a reality
by performingmonkey
Hell, it doesn't even need the original cast in it (although a Ramis appearance would help, to kick things off). What if the original Ghostbusters got sucked into hell and new guys had to be recruited. Stiller and Wilson would actually be OK choices, but I'd say cast younger. Then cast Vin Diesel as this bad guy from hell who wants to destroy the world (not just New York, the world) because he's pissed off. Hulk Hogan plays his father who the new Ghostbusters have to contact in a seance to find out how to stop Diesel's character. They have to use Whoopi Goldberg playing her medium character from Ghost. Then, Ramis's and Ackroyd's fat leaves their bodies and forms a spectre even bigger than the Stay-Puft fucking marshmallow man. This terrorizes New York, destroys the Chrysler building and......that's where it ends, on a cliffhanger for the 4th movie where they manage to suck Bill Murray's dick hard enough for him to come back. Say Venkman's been on holiday with Sigourney 'there is no Dana, only Zool' Weaver in the South of fucking wherever. They turn on the TV and realize that the source of the alternative universe Hell is Hogan's reality show and burn down his home to stop is, thus restoring freedom to the galaxy, the end. Screenplay by George Lucas.
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Holy fucking Christ. A shitty weak topped off by the fact that there was a Ghostbusters movie that will probably never get made... Holy Fucking Hell. The concept is amazing! And I'd like Owen Wilson, Luke Wilson, Vince Vaughn, and Dave Chapelle to be in it. Or maybe Charlie Murphy even. I think Ben Stiller could be a reject, a la Rick Moranis. BUT FUCK, THEIR EXPLANATION OF HELL IS FUCKING AMAZING. FUCK!
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And did anyone else notice that FANTASIC FOUR was a blatant rip off of GHOSTBUSTERS? They just replaced "Don't cross the streams" with "Jonny shouldn't go super nova".
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Nov 03, 2005 7:32:04 PM CST
concept of Hell sounds like what they did with Constantine
by gheorghe zamfir
except with foreigners and traffic jams. Anyways, the idea of Heaven being across the way in New Jersey gives me a chuckle, but all in all, glad its a flick that didn't happen.
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I remember reading about this before Farley died....Ghostbusters, one of the most sequel-worthy of the great 80s movies. A new sequel or "reimagining" would still be better than the vomited up cow flop of today, i.e. AVP, Freddy vs. Jason. And to all the haters, GBII hasn't aged well, but for God's sake, pretend you're nine again!!!
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It would suck with Junior Ghost Busters! You need the original cast! They're not dead! If Harrison can don the hat agin for Indy 4, the GB boys can surely do another! Though Akroyd did write Blues Brother 2000:)
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If I did have to cast newbies though I'd have Zach Braff, Larry David and Mos Deff.
Ben Stiller, Owen Wilson, Luke Wilson, and Vince Vaughn would suck! They're too in your face - you need actos who can so suttle humour. -
As a Ghostbuster? Come on. That's like having Jackie Mason in Caddyshack II. The guy does one thing VERY well, let's leave it at that. And suttle = subtle. I say get some less well known talent, like the guy who plays Jim on "The Office" and Seth Rogen from "40 Year Old Virgin".
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http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/366/366119p1.html
Thats the script review from IGN -
The US OFFice SUCKS!!!!!! US remakes of all brit-coms are just plain bad!
LArry David is very dry and funny - you just can't look outside the square. -
Get off your old lazy ass and make a decent film for christs sake. What the hell hapened to you?
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Life Aquatic, Lost in translation, Rushmore - all fantastic! Let me guess, you're after a CaddyShack/stripes/meatballs kind of movie? sigh.
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NO. I liked rushmore HATED THE REST I looking more towards freakin groundhog day and what about bill type of movie.
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Im sorry for that shitty reply.
I meant to say what about bob.
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Let me guess you liked osmosis jones.
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Man, that was the low point in Bill's career. (Although Matt McConehey was fun.) I've loved all Bill's most recent films.
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I love groundhog day and Quick change:) Osmosis Jone - Hated with a passion! I actually liked The Spy who knew too little - I know it was stupid - but it was like an old Danny Kaye movie - bad, but in a good way.
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mad dog and glory! Great movie
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I'm kind of glad in way GB 3 wasn't made - it may have been Blues Brothers 2000 all over again! You know "Let's dumb it down for the kiddies so we can introduce it to a younger gen" You know it could well have happened.
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That is all.
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Nov 03, 2005 10:23:31 PM CST
Bill Murray is to thank (or blame) for there not being a GB3.
by prof. pop-cult
He holds part of the rights to the franchise, and he probably didn't want to risk another bad sequel. Ackroyd is gung ho about doing another one, as is Sony Pictures (which owns the Columbia Pictures rights to Ghostbusters), but he and Murray seem to have had a creative falling out that has lasted for several years now. And the fact that Ackroyd has been all too quick to whore off other properties he himself has been associated with (Blue Brothers and the Coneheads) probably hasn't endeared Murray to the possibility of another Ghostbusters. The fact is, I think the only chance of this happening would be if the Wilson brothers showed interest in starring in a sequel/spin-off, as they appear to be on better terms with Murray than Ackroyd now.
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of the role reversal of Deniro and Murray, and for Uma's tits.
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Nov 03, 2005 11:02:19 PM CST
Did anyone see the Extreme Ghosttbusters episode with the Origin
by robert_g_durant
It was hilarious. They didn't play it up as a triumphant return of the Ghostbusters. They just pointed out how ridiculous the concept of over-the-hill action heroes is. Peter tried to do his little move from the first film where he leaped over the gate to his office... and face-planted. No one fit in their suits and they were all out of breath and throwing their backs out from carrying the proton packs around. Comedy gold, and a big middle finger to ridiculous concepts like 70-year old Captain Kirk in a fistfight. If that's what they had in mind, I would have been all for it.
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Am I the only one who finds it interesting that we can see how much traffic this story is getting?
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http://www.sitemeter.com/default.asp?action=stats&site=s22infocus&report=11
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Yes, Farley was originally Shrek, and did some work on it before kicking the bucket. And then Myers originally did it in a Canadian accent in his honor, before going Scottish.
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That whole "torch passing" stuff sounds annoying. It's like Optimus Prime passing the torch to Hot Rod. Or Raiden taking over for Solid Snake. Why don't Ramis and Dan don't come up with another sci-fi concept for the new comedy stars?
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Seriously Harry, they should have a movie about you and instead of calling it Jarhead, they should call it Shithead, and then at the end you could be dressed at fatigues telling Mr. Beaks or Moriarty: "I thank God for every day I get to rehash Hollywood news that much of the nation knows about just for the sake of doing it......ewww-RA!"
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Nov 04, 2005 1:52:51 AM CST
What the hell site is that Succatash, and how does it work?
by iamnicksaicnsn
Anyhoo, the IGN review of the script sounded promising, but it definitely needed to be reworked. As much as I enjoyed Extreme Ghostbusters, I liked it because it was just GB related and it had Egon at least, not because I liked the characters that much. I don't think we need to see a Latina Ghostbuster, can you actually think of anyone funny enough for that? The only two latina actresses I can think of are Michelle Rodriguez and Jessica Alba, and neither can act. (And I'm half Latino, so quit your bitchin). Frankly, do we even really need to see a female Ghostbuster? And if so, why not Evangeline Lily? Or perhaps... um... shit, no one from SNL, they're too over the top. Oh, the chick from Strangers With Candy, did anyone see her shoot in EW? She's fucking hot under all that make-up.
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I don't know why I expected an intelligent response...I love Curb. Love it. Larry David IS Larry David. Granted, Bill Murray is Bill Murray, but would you want Woody Allen in a Ghostbuster's film? It just wouldn't work with the sensibility of these films. I think the guy from The Office is great, despite what you might think of the show (though you should probably give it another chance and not base your opinion on the first season even).
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Nov 04, 2005 1:58:48 AM CST
oh wait, i take that back, i just looked her up on IMDB...
by iamnicksaicnsn
she looks fucking hot under assloads of make-up that makes her look good... only... so so... maybe, without it...
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Sure it wasn't great, but it was funny and fun. Murray's "Hello Dana" was worth the price of admission alone. It's a 3 out of 5 movie. Ghostbusters 3 sounded great - but I wouldn't have wanted new blood in the team - well, would have maybe been okay with a couple of younger entries, but it's all about the original cast for me. Murray wanted to be a ghost and have a small cameo - that would have pissed me off royally! So, I'm glad they didn't make it. "The Real Ghostbusters" will have to suffice. By the way - what's the deal with that? In the UK we had "The Real Ghostbusters", but wasn't there a "Slimer" cartoon too, with very hokey animation?
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yeah the script/treatment review for gb3 is easy to find on the net. the concept is great *shouldve been the 2nd one* but none of the chemsitry was there with the new gb crew. the only gb 3 i would wanna see is a "were too old for this shit" avec bill murray. can you imagine a scene where theve all gone their seperate ways, and venkmans reaction to a much fatter egon!!!! that would be cinematic gold....
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Hulk Hogan played the bad guy. I'm gonna slime you brotha!!
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Nov 04, 2005 8:07:37 AM CST
What the hell is wrong with you people? We do NOT want another G
by scrumdiddly
Oh, I do remember that cartoon though. Yay!
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... and he's really PISSED!
Farley: Yaaahhhh!!! (Falls through coffee table)
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If there is a GB3 or a GB restart, I don't see the need to create new characters. This whole Junior Ghostbusters/ New Recruits thing is bullshit. Peter, Ray, Egon, and Winston are the only fucking ghostbusters. Period. The characters can work well without Murray, etc.. Just look at the Real Ghostbusters cartoon. Restart this franchise with the GB's already in business and cast Vince Vaughn as Peter ( he was born for that shit), I don't know... Stephen Colbert or Thomas Lennon as Egon, Charlie Murphy as Winston, and whichever of the frat pack would best fit the part of Ray (Ferrel?) and imo that's preferable to seeing Ramis break in new recruits in some hackneyed montage or the .000001 chance of seeing Murray and the rest squeeze into ill fitting jumpsuits again.
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What I always liked was what Winston pointed out in the first movie-that the reason they were so busy was because the world was about to end. That means that whenever business picks up, its because the world is about to get screwed over royally.
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... let this franchise go untouched. It's bad enough that GBII got made, though for the most part I pretend that it never happened. Let Ghostbusters rest. It's a fantastic film that shouldn't tainted any further by shitty sequels.
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"one time i turned into a dog, and they helped me."
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Nov 04, 2005 1:32:59 PM CST
Give the cool Ramis version of Hell to Wes Anderson, and Murray
by declan_swartz
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I'm curious, I know he said, "Uh, that guy could be from Cleveland for all I know -" and then he said something about there being a midwestern sensibility. Did something get cut? I'm sure that was a diss of some sort, but he didn't call him a dooshbag, as far as I know. Other than that, I thought GB II was funny and it had a bit of a gentler tone, but I think that was a good thing. It was different enough. And the beginning where they're doing kids B'Day parties? Funny as hell... How about the scene with Pete Venkman's World of The Psychic? "So your alien had a room at the holiday inn, in Paramus?" Any Jersey town mentioned in passing by characters like these is comedy gold. But anyway, that was a great interview, where the interviewer actually had some knowledge of the subject and the history of those comics, actors, and directors. Usually it's some fucking clueless Gen Xer who got the job at the mag cause they're cousin's husband is VP of a subsidiary of a titty pasty of Time Warner.
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" Were the Junior Ghostbusters scientists or just hired grunts like Winston?"
hired grunts. GHOSTBUSTERS is a huge corporation, and the story focuses on four employees out of hundreds.
"And what were Annie Potts and Rick Moranis going to do this time around?"
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It does seem like a bit of a dis, considering the man directed Hughes' first screenplay, "Vacation", which is set in Chicago. But maybe that was one of the rewrites he was discussing and he's still bitter about it.
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"Thankyou Lewis. That was short, but pointless." Ghostbusters 2 had it's moments!
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Nov 04, 2005 3:19:01 PM CST
GB 2 really isnt that bad. Dunno why Janine turned punk though
by cockknocker
"Daddy was a smelly?"
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Nov 04, 2005 3:36:31 PM CST
I was fan of of the cartoon, so when I saw Louis make out with J
by neo zeed
All my 9-year-old mind knew in that theater knew was that Janine was Egon's woman and that's that. So when Louis hit that in GB2, I was crazy pissed off! Hell, I still am to this day. For reals.
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it was funny stuff and i believe they came back a few more times afterward. If there was to be another ghostbusters movie they should do it from the point of view of the extreme ghostbusters episodes with a younger cast being led by egon.
and have the older guys come back maybe in the next film or the second after that. itb be cool to see a more diverse group of ghostbusters and not the usual 3 white gys with a black guy who doesnt say much. -
And it's damn DVD release was delayed. It's freaking hilarious and not on DVD
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... is the key to bringing this franchise into the new millenium. Yeah, Yeah, Dave Chapelle or Charlie Murphy ... a given. How about Harold and/or Kumar ? I'd like to nominate a Lady Gostbuster ... Sarah Silverman ! You comedy geeks know she owns your asses ! I like the Frat Pack ( Vaughn, Wilson, Ferrell, Stiller, Black, Corell, et al ) well enough but spice up that comedy stew !
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Has anybody even thought that maybe the movie could be about Chris Farley's ghost?
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Nov 04, 2005 11:18:29 PM CST
If they DID do a live action show they should use some of those
by king conan
J. Michael Straczynski was on top of his writing game on that show. I was amazed sometimes at the quality of the material and it was just a saturday morning cartoon. And that Hell concept did sound fuckin' amazing. I agree with you Neo..that passing the mantle shit sounds bogus. They'll just get some pretty boy abercrombie looking actors to try and sell it to the youth of today.
Looking at the article I saw that he also directed "Club Paradise", man that movie is one of my guilty pleasures!!! I love that movie! Rick Moranis is an absolute fool in that film! Too bad it still hasn't been released on dvd. -
Really? Where is that shit fatty?!
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Nov 05, 2005 1:26:39 AM CST
Could be a great film, but some of you guys ideas are just awful
by benito
I can't believe some of the crap that's getting written in this thread. Anyone who thinks that the 'Frat pack' have any business anywhere NEAR a ghostbusters movie needs to get their head examined. I swear, if those oafs got their dirty hands on this series it would just break my heart. Ghostbusters 3, if done right, would be fricking amazing. If they did it old school and made Venkman the star it could be a really, really wonderful film. It shouldn't be a dumbed down kids film because, hey, the kids who loved this series are in their 20's now. Let the series age with the fans... let Bill Murray take the character of an older Peter somewhere sad and interesting... and get back to satirizing the academic environment the way the first film did, and I shit you not - this could be amongst the coolest things ever to happen to film fans. Especially if they shot it and scored it like the first movie. Oh and PS. No new ghostbusters unless them being there serves the story of the original team and they're scientists, not just hired hands. Oscar Venkman as a new addition could be alright... I'd love to see what hind of father Dr Venkman turned out to be.
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On one hand the quality of the film, the special effects and even the humour are spot on perfect, but on the other hand... it's just not a good fun film to watch like the first one. I LOVE the premise for the third one. and I could really enjoy seeing older Ghostbusters over younger next geners.
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and there was an old man in front of us who spoke, very loudly, in a voice that was IDENTICAL to Rick Moranis in the films. There was another couple sitting in my row and after about 20 seconds of this old man talking, they started whispering and laughing with each other. I heard them say "just like him" and leaned over to them and said "I am the keymaster. Are you the gatekeeper?" They just burst out laughing. Funny, because just yesterday I was thinking how great this movie was.
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http://www.rottentomatoes.com/vine/journal_view.php?journalid=240059&entryid=258188&view=public
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But he'll be the ghost... to be busted. Ha ha.
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I know that this is old news but i heard that the problems they have are two fold. BILL MURRAY owns half the rights to the Ghostbusters franchise. Two(a) Bill Murray is a reported pain in the ass down to his Manic Depression. (b) The Story they were going to go with happened the same time around 9/11. Thay were going to turn manhatten in a version of Hell.
Colombia said NO.
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Actually, GB3 was declared dead at least a year before 9/11.
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Bill murray is right not to do a lame ass sequal that will just be another Blues Brothers 2000 - I mean come on guys! It's 2006 not 1984! Too much time has passed - let it go - enjoy the original
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