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The Pull List
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BOOK OF LOST SOULS #1

FLASH #227

LOVELESS #1

DAREDEVIL #78

Big Eyes for the Cape Guy presents RAY:VOL.1

Indie Jones presents…

CHEAP SHOTS!











BOOK OF LOST SOULS #1


Writer: J. Michael Straczynski

Penciler: Colleen Doran

Publisher: Marvel Comics

Reviewed by Humphrey Lee





These are the kind of books I look forward to most when I see JMS' name on them. What first got me "hooked", per se, on his work was definitely the creator-owned stuff he did at Image, that being RISING STARS and MIDNIGHT NATION. And while I've enjoyed his SPIDER-MAN and FANTASTIC FOUR work for the most part, this is creator driven type of work is where I think the man shines most. Add in the amazing work of one Colleen Doran, and you have here one of my most eagerly anticipated books of the year. But obviously, the question is, did it do the trick?



Well, it's definitely more of a "wait and see" kind of thing.



The premise is this: A young man named Jonathan from a previous time period (of which there is no real mention, but is at least a century or two) has been spurned by his lover and has decided to give it all up. We start the book with Jonathan on top of a bridge ready to leap to his fate when a man comes by with a rather large book and converses with Johnny boy. Weird old guy talks to Jon about his situation, Jon takes the book from the old gent and uses it to help weigh him down and seal his fate. Yes, very dark indeed. But alas, just a page later (or more about 4 or 5 given the ungodly amount of ads presented in this book) we see Jonathan emerge in the present day, book in hand and a bit of a sense of purpose finally on his face. We find out later that Jon has a mission, one involving finding other misguided people such as himself and do, well, something with them. Save them? Damn them? That is yet unclear, but we have at least the basic gist of it all.



So, how does it read? Eh, it's not bad. These days, writers seem to cram a lot into their first issues in order to grab attention. As well they probably should. The first issue is the big one. It's supposed to let the reader know what they're getting into and decide if they're on for the ride. JMS definitely gives some information in this as to what exactly is going on, but also plays up a lot of vagueness behind the circumstances and details of Jon's "resurrection," which can be seen as both a good and a bad thing. I, for one, am no big fan of decompression, but I don't mind it when a book builds up a bit of a mystery surrounding it to keep things going. As long as things aren't dragged out too long, it can work very nicely. And that's pretty much where this book is starting.



As for the actual read itself, it's a bit heavy handed. As you can tell by the synopsis I had above, it's really quite a depressing book. Even Colleen Doran's typically amazing details are kind of blotted out a bit by extremely dark and heavy inking to get that extra bit of ambiance. There is a good bit of wit and some humor to this issue, but it's also trying to wrap itself so much in mystery that it becomes a bit redundant at times, especially through some of the dialogue. This book definitely feels like it's trying to channel the spirit of Neil Gaiman's SANDMAN series, but it needs to find a better balance between lightness and dark like that book did.



So, you're probably asking, was that a positive review or a negative one? And honestly, I dunno. There were aspects I liked, but there were aspects I didn't. A lot of the ones I didn't can easily be rectified if JMS reigns himself in a bit on the technical stuff and gets a bit of the monotony out as he starts unraveling the story. I think the book is worth a shot, at least to soak in some wonderful Doran art, but if you don't think you're willing to invest about an arc to see if you like the book, it's probably best you don't. Otherwise, I'd say go for it. I have a feeling this is going to turn into something great, but right now it's got some growing pains to go through.













FLASH #227


Writer: Joey Cavalieri

Pencils: Val Semeiks

Inks: Livesay

Publisher: DC Comics

Reviewer: Ambush Bug





Every now and then, there comes a run on a title that most people agree to be definitive to that character. Simonson’s THOR. Byrne’s FANTASTIC FOUR. Miller’s DAREDEVIL. It is the type of run that not only defines the character, but how the character is perceived by the reader and depicted in future incarnations. Out of all of the characters to have the distinguished honor of having a definitive run, Wally West/the Flash is special. This character has two. Right off the heels of Mark Waid’s definitive run on the title, a newcomer by the name of Geoff Johns took over. Whereas Waid did his best to develop the character of Wally West and define the way his power works and where it comes from, Johns defined those around West and the populace and city he chose to protect. Both writers defined the character and fleshed him out to be one of the most endeared and three-dimensional characters of modern comics. Both Waid and Johns stayed on the title for years developing their separate stories and pleasing many, many readers. But just as Waid’s run came to an end, so did Johns’. Now, DC is faced with the mammoth task of continuing to make the character of the Flash interesting after coming off of not one, but two phenomenal runs.



Last issues’ filler issue didn’t quite measure up to the standards set by Johns and Waid. But that’s just what that issue was: filler. Issue #227 kicks off a brand new story arc with a brand new creative team. And I wish I could say that the Flash would be running for the definitive run trifecta, but I can’t.



It’s not for lack of trying, though. Writer Joey Cavalieri tries to capture the endearing nature of Wally West. He’s still the everyman hero who isn’t perfect and always trying to clean up his own messes. He still has a loving wife and is getting used to fatherhood. The Rogues are still running around causing trouble. It’s all a good old case of same-old/same-old and that’s the major problem with this issue. Whereas Johns added something new to the character of Wally West while simultaneously building off of the strengths of Waid’s run on the title, Cavalieri is just churning out another Flash story without bringing anything new to the table. This is only the first issue of this arc, but this issue failed to have any elements that grabbed me.



The story follows Wally, his wife, and his in-laws to a suburban church. Now that Wally is the father of twins, his in-laws want him to do some church-goin’. Not being the most religious of sorts, Wally is hesitant, but goes along with it for the sake of his family. But something is off with the people of the church and that’s where the mystery begins. There’s nothing wrong with this story, but this isn’t the spectacular follow-up to Johns’ run that I was expecting. It’s all run-of-the-mill and the worst thing about it all is that the pacing is very slow – something that should be taboo in a FLASH comic.



Who knows? Maybe the rumors are true and Wally is about to bite it in INFINITE CRISIS, so DC isn’t wasting their time with following up Johns’ run with something just as good. All I can say is that after reading Johns’ first issue of the FLASH, I was hooked. It was the same feeling I felt when I read my first Waid FLASH comic. But reading this one failed to spark even the faintest feeling of interest. This one is standard superhero fare that doesn’t measure up to the quality that has run side by side with the FLASH for a long time now.















LOVELESS #1


Writer: Brian Azzarello

Penciler: Marcelo Frusin

Publisher: DC Comics/Vertigo

Reviewed by Humphrey Lee





Wes Cutter is a bad-ass sonuvabitch... That's what we learn in this first issue of LOVELESS.



Unlike the other new book I reviewed this week (BOOK OF LOST SOULS) the premise on this new title is pretty succinct. Wes Cutter is a Civil War veteran/survivor. After the war has ended, his house and the land around it have been seized by the victors of the war and the U.S. government. And now he wants it back for himself and his wife.



Lots of bloodshed and general badassery ensues.



Again, this book is more the opposite of the other new book this week because this first issue is definitely a hook issue. It gets right to the point of what it's about... sex, violence, black humor, pride, and a bit of bigotry mixed in for good measure. We immediately know what kind of man Wes Cutter is. He's a guy who stands up for what he believes in, and will do anything to get his way, and he'll do it with a smile on his face. He wants to put the war behind him, and focus on the future: one that he'll do what he has to do to ensure it comes to pass.



For the most part, the book reads fast, but it's definitely a hook issue and doesn't leave you feeling all too fulfilled. The art is also very strong, but has its share of flaws, mainly the color scheme. Frusin's work became a favorite of mine when I was first exposed to him from his run on HELLBLAZER with Mr. Azzarello a few years past. I dug the detail he brought to the characters--their facial features, hair, clothing, etc. all gave the book a richer feel. But when Azzarello left the book and Mike Carey started working on the book with Frusin I noticed a change. Everything seemed a bit faded and muddled. Lines were blurred a bit and so on, and you lost some of the detail, or a lot of the time, secondary characters all looked the same and made things a bit confusing. And that trend seems to have fallen here on LOVELESS. On close-ups the characters have brilliant features and so on. When the view is drawn back... not so much. It still looks really great for the most part, but it just has those tendencies.



So yeah, again, I'm left thinking that here we have a book that is probably destined to have a great fun run, but has a few kinks to work out. If you're already a fan of Azzarello's work, then you'll probably be a fan of this. It's definitely not a book for those of you without a dark sense of humor. The premise is a nice change of pace, but I don't really know how much story can be drawn out of it. But then again, this is the man who brought us 100 BULLETS and one of the most dense stories in all of comics, so who knows just what he has in store for us?













DAREDEVIL #78


Writer: Brian Michael Bendis

Art: Alex Maleev

Sell outs: Marvel

Reviewer: Ambush Bug





Whoever is in charge of the ads at Marvel is out of control. I understand that these ads are like commercials on TV – that they help pay for the ga-billions of dollars Marvel pays their employees and the other expenses of running a big business. I don’t expect ad-free comics. I understand how the world works, but when I crack open an issue of the adventures of my favorite issues and get more ads than story, I’ve got to point it out.



But enough about all of that, let’s get into the meat of this issue, shall we?



This issue starts out with a full splash page of a football player named Mike who has apparently run afoul of some dairy and has now succumbed to a particularly sloppy “Got milk?” mustache. We move on to a double splash page of the Honda Civic, which I found to be well placed in the panel, but the photo referencing was a bit of a turn off. Turn the page and now the plot gets rolling as what looks to be Gloop and Gleep from the Herculoids telling us some kind of ominous message about Nike shoes, but it fails to transcend the panel.



A FOG rolls in and with it comes Bathing Suit Girl from LOST, the dude from TV’s SUPERMAN’S CREEK, and my future wife Selma Blair. But as the fog cleared, I was shocked at the plot twist as we find out that we’ll get more lucky if we drink Mountain Dew. It is at that exact moment that the story really gets rolling as Elisha Cuthbert gasps in horror at the acting skills she tossed out alongside a mannequin-like Paris Hilton in HOUSE OF WAX. And boy o boy, those AC/DC and Pink Floyd shirts are all the rage these days, ain’t they?



I was especially shocked to see Zorro, Count Duckula, Batman, and He-Man appear in this book since I had no idea they were Marvel properties. I was also a little dismayed that Playstation and X-Box made so many appearances in this book. First this team of technological titans took on the X-Men and Apocalypse. Then they rear their ugly heads as Elektra fights some guy named Johnny Ohm. And finally, they show up with some guy named Sid Meyer and some pirates for some booty. Why Marvel just doesn’t give Playstation and X-Box their own book is beyond me. They seem to be appearing in every title these days.



Any normal book would stop there, but Marvel likes to put a little extra in their books. I can’t forget to mention the skaters in LORDS OF DOGTOWN because they are apparently rad. I did find a continuity glitch in this issue where it seems that, all of a sudden, Stormtroopers like to wear bling and wife-beaters. As the issue winds down, something called a Fragbox is introduced. The appearance of this ebon contraption does not bode well for our heroes. And speaking of heroes, Elektra appears again in a movie where she fights a guy with the evil power of sheets. This time, the movie is uncut and unrated, so expect even more unadulterated sheet power!



There’s a double-page splash of wrasslin’ which I found to be a bit over the top. Ever since Andre the Giant was ass-raped by George “the Animal” Steele, I’ve found the whole direction the WWF has been taking lately to be against the very core of what the WWF once stood for.



The book ends with a cliffhanger as our hero is about to be bitten by a sultry vampire. Will he be turned into one of the undead, or will our hero high-step his way out of harm’s way with his new fall Sketcher gear? I’m definitely coming back for the next issue to see how it all works out.



Oh, and I think some stuff happened with Daredevil, Elektra, and Black Widow in this book too, but I’m not sure. Ahh, who gives a poopin’ shit…DRINK MOUNTAIN DEW!














RAY: VOL.1


Written and Drawn by: Akhito Yoshitomi

Published by: ADV Manga

Reviewer: href=mailto:superheroic@yahoo.com>superhero





Ray was bred for her body parts. She was brought into the world for one purpose and one purpose only…to
provide parts for people who would need them when theirs had failed them. When she was a child her eyes
were taken from her by the mysterious group that gave her life. After that much of her existence was spent
in darkness and fear until a mysterious figure rescued her and replaced her old eyes with new ones which gave her the ability to see through anything. Using her savior as inspiration Ray devoted her life to becoming
a gifted surgeon, but because she is on the run from the organization that made her, she must operate outside of society. So she takes the jobs that other doctors can’t and won’t take.



That pretty much lays out the premise of RAY. Except for the fact that Ray can’t remember who her savior
was. As a matter of fact Ray can’t even remember much of anything from around the time she was rescued. So in between operating on mobsters and performing experimental procedures other doctors won’t entertain, Ray is on a quest to find the man who saved her from a life of being a living organ donor.



For the most part RAY is a pretty entertaining read. Yoshitomi’s art is fantastic and his storytelling,
unlike a lot of manga artists out there, is rock solid. The action is kept moving at a really good pace
and he’s able to use quiet moments to his advantage. My one qualm with the artwork is that ALL of the female characters look startlingly similar and it’s hard to tell them apart. The male characters all seem to be drawn so that they have features which are distinct from one another, but when the women interact at times it’s hard to tell who’s who and that includes the lead character. Obviously, it’s not impossible to sort it out, but it can be a bit distracting.



My biggest problem, though, was with the writing. While there’s enough action and atmosphere to keep the book interesting the problem is there’s little character development. While it is horrible that Ray was bred
for her body parts, the creator of the book doesn’t really delve into her character enough. The result is that I never really felt that I got to know her. I felt sorry for her and was interested in her plight, but Ray’s actual personality is so unexplored in this volume that her situation isn’t as compelling as it could be. Don’t get me wrong. RAY is a good book but Ray herself isn’t interesting enough and that’s a weakness that kept this book from pulling me all the way in.



Hopefully future volumes of RAY will expand upon the lead character and let readers empathize with her
more. For now the book is entertaining enough that I may check out the second volume, but I’m also not going to be in any rush to get that second chapter. This first one kept me interested, but I don’t know if I’m
interested enough to plunk down ten more dollars on this series when there’s so much other manga and
comics out there to explore.















ZOMBIE TALES: OBLIVION #1

Publisher: BOOM! Studios


Another installment of some of the best zombie comic book shorts around. This issue features a great short where the dead keep forgetting they are dead written by John Rogers, a kooky story about a zombie and his pet cat written by Andrew Cosby and drawn by a definite artist to watch, Benjamin Roman, and a tough as nails tale about a gruff dead soldier who tries to track down his killers before he becomes a mindless zombie by Ron “Where the hell have you been?” Lim and Keith “Oh, there you are” Giffen. Mark Waid proves that you can tell a heartwarming story set in the zombie genre with my favorite story of the bunch, “Luther.” And Keith Giffen returns at the end, drawing beautiful art to Johanna Stokes’ poetic tale of a little girl surviving in the post-apocalyptic world and finding her place in that world. As a lover of the zombie genre, it’s good to see such talented folks taking a stab at the undead. This anthology series never fails to impress with its high caliber of art and writing throughout. - Ambush Bug




DEADWORLD #2

Publisher: Desperado/Image


As I said in the previous paragraph, I’m a huge fan of the zombie genre. Have been for years. And that means that I have a great admiration for the zombie comic that started all of this hubbub in the first place. Writer Gary Reed is handling this relaunch of the DEADWORLD series and he’s brought the artist of the original series, Vince Locke, with him. I guess, I’m giving this book a chance out of respect for what has come before, but there hasn’t been a lot, aside from the hauntingly sketchy Locke art, to keep me coming back for more. DEADWORLD doesn’t sport Romero’s mindless zombies, these zombies are just decaying badasses and supernatural demons. I fear the Zombie King, who I looked at as the ultimate badass when I read this book in the eighties, has proved to be a product of that time and hasn’t aged well. Side by side on the racks with superior zombie titles such as WALKING DEAD and ZOMBIE TALES, DEADWORLD doesn’t really match up. But I can’t wholeheartedly give this series a bad review. There is a grittiness about this book that makes you feel kind of dirty after reading it and I don’t mind feeling that way after reading a zombie comic. Fans of the genre and of the original DEADWORLD series may want to give this relaunch a shot. - Ambush Bug




STYX TAXI: AS ABOVE SO BELOW

Publisher: FWD Books


Steven Goldman, the man behind last year’s EVERYMAN: BE THE PEOPLE, has been developing the STYX TAXI concept over the last few years. I recently got my hands on the first two installments (A LITTLE TWILIGHT MUSIC and PASTRAMI FOR THE DEAD) as well as the newest book, AS ABOVE SO BELOW. The concept is pretty intriguing. After you die, you get two hours to travel around in a cab to do whatever you want to do. You can make amends, visit loved ones, tidy up a few final things, or simply enjoy your last few hours on earth. Fans of the HBO series SIX FEET UNDER may want to check this often humorous, often poignant take on the tender intricacies of life and death. Each book takes a different approach at the concept. PASTRAMI FOR THE DEAD is a lighthearted, but sweet tale of a competition between the death cab drivers. The reward? 12 hours of freedom on earth. A LITTLE TWILIGHT MUSIC focuses on how music can bring to joy to life even after it is over. And AS ABOVE SO BELOW shows that Goldman has grown as a writer as he weaves prose and graphic storytelling together. The art may be crude at times, but this is the kind of concept that tugs at the heart and makes you think about yourself. These three books are available here . - Ambush Bug



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DEFENDERS #4

More kooky fun. Even though I don’t like the way Giffen is writing Bruce Banner, I have to admit that I’m having a helluva fun time reading this title. Kevin Maguire makes this issue great with his depiction of the alternate universe’s version of Iron Fist alone. Great fun. - Bug











SOLO #7 featuring Mike Allred

Another strong installment of the SOLO series coming from the man who brought us MADMAN and THE ATOMICS. Mike Allred's art is definitely one of those "love it or hate it" types and I'm not ashamed to admit I'm a lover. I like the "cartoony" feel it has while not being afraid to have good sense towards proportion and detail. And all the stories are very entertaining with varying degrees of humor and some very trippy concepts. Watching as Hourman finds anything and everything he can do to waste away the better part of his "Hour of Power" made me continually chuckle, and Mike's Batman and Robin story I thought was a great little commentary on the current state of the Batman and how blown out of proportion things have become recently with the uber-grim-and-grittiness that is slowly taking over the character. Overall I didn't think there was a single weak segment and this issue is right up there with the best of them so far. - Humphrey












JSA CLASSIFIED #4

D’you know how I know this was a good issue? I read it from cover to cover without taking gander at Power Girl’s front bumpers…so I read it again. Tee hee. Geoff Johns fleshes out one of the most convoluted characters in the DCU and brings back one of my favorite Siver Age villains to do so. That’s right, the Psycho Pirate is back and only he holds the key to Power Girl’s recent power fluctuations. Readers of old school DC will love this issue which recognizes Power Girl’s true place in the DCU, or lack thereof. Johns really makes you care about Power Girl and by the end of this issue, you’re rooting for her to win, even though the impending Crisis seems to have bad things in store for her. So far, this JSA CLASSIFIED series is proving to be a worthy accompaniment to the monthly JSA title. - Bug











YOUNG AVENGERS #8

Just another very solid issue of YOUNG AVENGERS by Heinberg and crew. This issue wraps up a fight between the youngins and Mr. Hyde, we get some nice twists involving Patriot and Stature that could (and do) have big ramifications on their place inside the team, and we get some more insight into the "personality" of the new Vision. If anything, I have to say this book and NEW THUNDERBOLTS have been doing a great job of giving us some good old fashioned super-powered throw downs, an art which I was beginning to think was starting to be forgotten. The reveals made by the characters previously mentioned weren't mind-blowing by any means, but they were definitely nice twists and rather unexpected. If I were to pick anything wrong with this book it would be the fill-in art chores. I'm not saying Andrea DiVito did a bad job by any means, but it's definitely not what I'm used to seeing from her. It's obviously rushed in order to get the book shipping regularly and is noticeably sloppy and disproportioned at times. But at least Marvel realized it's better to have someone take the workload on for a period of time than to just let it ship perpetually late while Cheung tries to get caught up. Except for that, I don't really have much else to say except it's just a well done issue. - Humphrey











WONDER WOMAN #222

When I first cracked open this book, I groaned because I instantly took a disliking to Cliff Richards’ pencils and Ray Snyder’s inks. But as I chugged along, I began to like their straightforward style and by the end of this title, I found myself hoping to see more of this team’s work in the future. This issue focuses on Cheetah, one of Wonder Woman’s deadliest enemies. The thing is, even though she is probably the most popular villain in Wonder Woman’s stable, I found that I knew very little about her. This issue cleared that all up by not only retelling her origin in flashback, but by comparing her own motivations with that of Wonder Woman’s. In the end, this issue did a great job of fleshing out both Wonder Woman and her arch-nemesis, which to me warrants a high recommendation. Writer Greg Rucka did a great job with this one. - Bug










NEW THUNDERBOLTS #14

Everybody knows that when you have heroes fighting heroes, the whole scenario is contrived and nobody wins in the end. That's what's so great about the past two issues of this title; they actually made all that part of the plot! Oh sure, one of the teams gets stomped into the mud, but as that reveal at the end shows, neither the T-Bolts nor the New Avengers are winners in this scenario. Throw in an appearance by a longtime T-Bolt antagonist as well as one of my favorite members of Avengers Classic, and this issue only reaffirms why this title is my favorite team book currently published at Marvel. - Vroom Socko












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    Readers Talkback

  • Nov 02, 2005 9:12:41 PM CST

    I haven't read the article, but I'm assuming there's

    by vim fuego

  • Nov 02, 2005 9:22:28 PM CST

    Speaking of ads, I clicked and it wouldn't let me see "the w

    by tall_boy

    That Daredevil review could have been shortened to a cheap shot, honestly.

    Reply to Talkback

  • Nov 02, 2005 9:27:21 PM CST

    Wait, seriously, only FOUR reviews up top?

    by masterwhedon

    I dig the Cheap Shots and skip most of the middle stuff, but seriously? WTF? Why publish this week unless you're gonna review the books that were put out last week? I mean, shit, we even had a New Avengers book Buzz could've shat all over.

    Reply to Talkback

  • Nov 02, 2005 9:46:10 PM CST

    Akhito Yoshitomi is your favorite ephebophile pornographer.

    by 3 bag enema

    Don't act like you don't know what I'm talking about, you perverts!

    Reply to Talkback

  • Nov 02, 2005 9:50:28 PM CST

    Anybody who says that John Byrne did the "definitive" run of Fan

    by jar jar 4 prez

    has pretty much DESTROYED any and all of their credibility.

    Reply to Talkback

  • Nov 02, 2005 9:57:44 PM CST

    Oh really, Jar Jar?

    by psynapse

    Then how 'bout you put yer benjamins where yer noise hole is. Tell us O' pundit of pop culture, who would YOU say did the definitive FF run if not Byrne? (Lee and Kirby don't count in this instance either. Why? Because that's a fail-safe answer for any Marvel property. Moroever while they created many Marvel properties that are published today it was the people who worked on them after them that defined them for our generation.)

    Reply to Talkback

  • Nov 02, 2005 10:15:21 PM CST

    Lee & Kirby

    by gus nukem

    do count. I can't see why not. The creators may, or may not (X-men, imo) have the definitive run. In the F4's case, it is the creators' team that did the definitive run. Anyone who reads their 100 or so issues can tell.

    Reply to Talkback

  • Nov 02, 2005 10:20:14 PM CST

    Byrne is God

    by docfalken

    I'm curious who would even rival his amazing run.

    Reply to Talkback

  • Nov 02, 2005 10:25:49 PM CST

    So that's all you got on Daredevil, Bug?

    by heywood jablowme

    Too many ads. Nice "review". Or is that all you've got because Bendis writes a hell of a good Daredevil book and you just can't bring yourself to compliment the guy. I'm not asking you to go all-Vroom Socko, but give props to the guy. This is supposedly his last arc and his work will be missed. Do you think DD will be better in 6 months or worse? Who do you want writing the book? I'm not trying to start shit. It's just that with the story, the art (Maleev was made for this book) and that last page, your "review" doesn't do it any justice. To any casual Daredevil fan, or comics fan in general: Go pick up this run, then pick up "Decalogue", "Hardcore", oh hell, pick them all up. They're worth it, ads and all.

    Reply to Talkback

  • Nov 02, 2005 10:26:37 PM CST

    I remember 1992 and how precious comics were then.

    by doom ii

    New comic day at Atomic Comics in Phoenix was something that drew large groups of people, including my buddy Steve. I would often go with him and look at the more violent comics while he shopped for W.I.L.D.C.A.T.S and Spawn and 10 other titles. What a waste of time and money. Variant covers and pull out "posters" and swimsuit editions with DRAWN women in bikinis. WOW. Those were some crazy times. I even picked up a few titles back then because I was curious about what Spider-Man was up to these days. I will most likely never buy another comic. But for those that do, enjoy!

    Reply to Talkback

  • Nov 02, 2005 10:47:03 PM CST

    Big Eyes Cape Guy

    by sideshowbob

    So, RAY has a killer premise and exciting art, but the writing is weak and there's no character development? That sounds like pretty much every manga and anime out there, actually. Except the bad art and a lame premise.

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  • Nov 02, 2005 10:47:57 PM CST

    I meant "except for the stuff with bad art and a lame premise"

    by sideshowbob

  • Nov 02, 2005 11:02:40 PM CST

    indie

    by kentmurray

    the indie jones thing got me in...

    does anyone remeber marvel's indiana jones series from the early 80s.

    my memories are of it being very cinematic!!!

    any news of a reprint? i know it's along shot...


    and check this link out - it's got info on lucas at the world premiere at cannes that i've never seen reported anywhere else.

    http://cgi.ebay.com.au/RARE-STAR-WARS-ep3-world-premiere-ticket-COLLECTABLE_W0QQitemZ6574696026QQcategoryZ98027QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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  • Nov 02, 2005 11:20:53 PM CST

    I didn't even go to the comic store last week

    by fantomex

    Luckily, there were several copies of Loveless left this week. And I can honestly say I never bought a swimsuit edition of X-Men.

    Reply to Talkback

  • Nov 03, 2005 12:13:06 AM CST

    Flash Fact:

    by marco_xavier

    Jumping to conclusions by comparing one issue of the Flash to the collective speedster oevre of Waid and Johns (spanning over a decade combined and forgetting Waid had a lousy second run after Morrison & Millar)could conceivably allow a review to surpass the Speed Force's abilities. Fucksake Bug, it's one fucking issue. Talk about handing your nads to the Bendis Boys' hammers. You sound like your ADHD has to be measured by powers (pun intended) relative to the norm. The same rumor monger mentioned earlier has Waid coming back for a third run in just a few months. Calm the fuck down, already...

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  • Nov 03, 2005 12:31:51 AM CST

    sideshowbob

    by marco_xavier

    Ditto. I tried for years to get into anime/manga, but you pretty much called it. I love looking at some of the stuff, but following the sad excuse for narrative in most of those things just sets me up for a fall. I did like odds & ends, especially some of the stuff from Viz's first year or so of the Manga Vision anthology (Rumik Theater; Samurai Crusader).

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  • Nov 03, 2005 12:36:03 AM CST

    Did they have tit jobs in the old west?

    by fantomex

    The Bulleteer was bad enough, but I could at least buy into a 27 year old with a plastic surgery fetish.

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  • Nov 03, 2005 1:35:41 AM CST

    They did have "tit jobs" in the old west if the trick wanted to

    by regicidal_maniac

    They didn't need them as back then the women actually ate food.

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  • Nov 03, 2005 6:44:14 AM CST

    huh?

    by blackthought

    women used to eat food? huh...go figure.

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  • Nov 03, 2005 8:01:33 AM CST

    You should be reviewing the Marvel Monster books.

    by rev_skarekroe

    You did the first one, but they've done 3 more since then, and they were all enjoyable reads to some extant. I liked Fin-Fang-Four the best though, and the Peter David one the least.

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  • Nov 03, 2005 8:32:56 AM CST

    I'm with Rev on the monster books

    by sideshowbob

    Sort of. I actually liked bits of the Peter David one the best (the Gamoo(?) story in particular). And the last one with Thing, Hulk, AntMan and Beast, with absolutely killer artwork. But he's right--you guys should have given this a bit more ink. Between these books at Marvel and SOLO over at DC, at least we know the big two are doing *something* right. Does anyone *not* like it when imaginitive creators are allowed to go to town for 3-10 page stories? More anthology books, dammit!

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  • Nov 03, 2005 8:34:17 AM CST

    To the Bug:

    by shigeru

    Why bother? Seriously. Yeah it was a funny enough comment on excessive ad space, but as a full review? Especially of a book that you have such a history with? Or were you trying to parody yourself?

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  • Nov 03, 2005 8:44:18 AM CST

    kentmurray, I loved Marvel's Indiana Jones book

    by sideshowbob

    It's one that I really wish would be given the "Essential" treatment, but I'm sure there's a lot of legal loopholes to jump through before that stuff can be reprinted.

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  • Nov 03, 2005 8:56:01 AM CST

    No BPRD Review?

    by hamgravy

    Anyone else enjoying this new Black Flame series? I feel it's this team's best one yet. It's Hellboy Mythology + "Aliens" + an update on Classic Marvel villainy.

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  • Nov 03, 2005 9:08:33 AM CST

    Re-Definitive

    by hamgravy

    I'm sure there's a lot of nostalgia involved with calling out a definitive run. I grew up on the Roger Stern/ JRJR Hobgoblin issues of Spider-Man and although they stand strong on their own merits it is hard to compare with the Lee/Ditko, Lee/ Romita stories that set the standard and that I could only appreciate later on. When you're writing around a hundred issues of a title I'd say you surpass creator status and are eligible for "definitive run." Flash fans are lucky in that Wally was essentially a blank template that was re-created. The same sort of holds true for Daredevil, and to a lesser degree Bat Man, who was redefined by Miller to the point where his contributions are accepted as the mainstream mythology. Simonson on Thor and Byrne on FF were telling great stories in the tradition of the originals, but, I'm wondering if there are any in the Millar camp who have surpassed the originals in re-defining the characters and making them their own? Peter David on Hulk comes to mind.

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  • Nov 03, 2005 9:10:44 AM CST

    So, was "House of M" a big snore or what?

    by cookylamoo

    Plus, it's obvious from the end that they're just using this as a springboard into a new "crisis" event. We have all been boned again.

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  • Nov 03, 2005 9:12:55 AM CST

    Darth Kalel

    by iruleall

    Didn't you say you had a cute raver cousin that reads 100 Bullets?...Is she single?

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  • Nov 03, 2005 9:15:57 AM CST

    Psynapse

    by jar jar 4 prez

    "Lee and Kirby don't count." Hah! Now you've destroyed your credibility too.

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  • Nov 03, 2005 9:16:21 AM CST

    Winter Men

    by hamgravy

    Another book worth checking out. Maybe genuinely the weirdest book on the shelf. The "russian-style" storytelling is elliptical but pulpy. The dialogue is written to be like poorly translated subtitles. The sum effect is distancing but achieves a mood stronger than plot or character.

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  • Nov 03, 2005 9:27:11 AM CST

    Miller DD

    by hamgravy

    I'm not a huge Miller fan, but, just thinking about it, what he did was unprecedented. He starts be killing off DD's arch-enemy at the time (Deathstalker?), does a little re-telling of the origin, makes a Spider-Man villain the major player (Kingpin), then creates a slew of new villains and lovers and shoots the whole thing full of ninjas. My history might be off a little but he was a man on a mission.

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  • Nov 03, 2005 11:05:34 AM CST

    Mike Baron's Run was Great

    by cookylamoo

    Started off Wally's series right. Made Vandal Savage scary. Let Wally play the field and make money as a courier. It was almost fucking realistic. After that it turned into a comic book.

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  • Nov 03, 2005 11:20:08 AM CST

    Couple'a points.....

    by psynapse

    1. Credibility slams from someone named Jar Jar have all of the gravitas of hamster fart, mmm'kay?
    2. Lee and Kirby is the cop-out answer because then the original creator run is definer and nothing that came after measures up, it's only an imitation. This disservices later artists far too much. Also, Lee & Kirby's run was a product of the time (the 60's) and quite sexist towards Sue Storm throughout much of it. It was John Byrne who turned her from rescuee to rescuer. It was John Byrne who established firmly that Sue is THE most powerful member of the four. It was John Byrne who made her into a Woman from a Girl. This is just one of the many things Byrne established for the Four during his tenure. I could go on and on about what John Byrne did for the Fantastic Four but I think you get the point. PS-Suck it Jar Jar.

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  • Nov 03, 2005 11:21:44 AM CST

    *curses inability to edit post for bad typing*

    by psynapse

    .........

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  • Nov 03, 2005 11:33:47 AM CST

    Andrea DiVito is a MAN.

    by god-man

    Also, wasn't Darwyn Cooke supposed to take over the Flash title?

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  • Nov 03, 2005 12:40:47 PM CST

    @$$holes back on schedule

    by the heathen

    Way to go guy's (no, I'm serious) good review of Loveless Humphrey, definetely a hooker issue. Bug - it was funny, true, and worthless all at the same time. Fortunately for me I don't read DD at the moment. And as an aside I want to say that the IC Roundtable was pretty well put together, cause I don't think I ever did. I mostly agreed with Bug and some of Prof., and almost none of that 'ol shruggin comic Nazi Dave! Anyway, thanks for getting the column up, I don't think the last one would have survived. It was almost time for who's doin who at the X Mansion again. : )

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  • Nov 03, 2005 12:58:40 PM CST

    We're going to try to get back on to a set schedule, Heathen

    by ambush bug

    It's been a hectic few weeks with the IC Roundtable and all of the Halloweenin' goin' on at @$$hole HQ, but I think we're on our way to getting back onto a more consistent schedule.

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  • Nov 03, 2005 1:16:22 PM CST

    Actually sideshowbob there's some great manga with fantastic

    by superhero

    Firefighter - Daigo of Company M, Priest, Battle Royale, Kazan, Project Arms, Akira...Sorry you've only read the bad stuff but there's stuff out there that's pretty impressive and "gasp" actually far superior to a lot of American comics storytelling wise.

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  • Nov 03, 2005 1:21:18 PM CST

    Two columns in under a week aint bad Bug

    by the heathen

    I just didn't want to throw any more shit your guy's way because I realized that all of you have lives as well. Not, trying to kiss ass here, but I figured you @$$holes need a compliment every once and a while with all of the abuse.

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  • Nov 03, 2005 1:34:57 PM CST

    Psynapse

    by daredevil

    I agree with you on most of those points except for "It was John Byrne who made her into a Woman from a Girl." I much preferred the name Invisible Girl to Invisible Woman. Maybe it's just me, but the second one just seems like too long of a name. I still always refer to her Invisible Girl. She could be 50 years old and I'd still call her that because it sounds better. Another one is Elasti-Girl from Doom Patrol. Elasti-Woman would sound kind of dumb. Or how about Power Woman? Her boobs are big enough to be called woman, but it just doesn't sound right. I think it's partially just the word itself. It just doesn't sound right most of the time. Wonder Woman is the only time it works for me, and I think that's just because of the "W" alliteration. I'd liken using "Woman" for females to using "Guy" or "Dude" for men. They don't do it often because it sounds dumb (Strong Guy being the exception, since he's kind of a comical character who isn't supposed to be taken too seriously.)

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  • Nov 03, 2005 1:53:50 PM CST

    Batwoman sounds good though

    by the heathen

    just my opinion

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  • Nov 03, 2005 2:27:52 PM CST

    Bug, what did you really think of the last issue of

    by the heathen

    The Walking Dead? Here's what I said last tb "Walking Dead had a bunch of stuff happen, even though Zombies were only seen in the background once. If you could call it a 'calm' issue and I'm not saying that Bug did (I'm not quite sure if he liked this issue or not), but it would be the one before the storm because I have a feeling that a bunch of stuff is about to go down - beginning with Rick picking up his teeth next issue."

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  • Nov 03, 2005 2:37:18 PM CST

    Walking Dead.

    by shigeru

    Heathen- do you read Kirkman's column over at CBR? A bit ago he had some pages from upcoming issues and yes indeed it looks like new dudes in RIOT GEAR (military? police?) arrive at the prison and bash zombie heads. The prison has been simmering ever since they arrived but it looks like now it's heating up to a boil. Yes! Put these characters through more shit! I love it.

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  • Nov 03, 2005 2:44:01 PM CST

    The last issue of WALKING DEAD...

    by ambush bug

    Well, I cheap shotted it last week and said: "In this issue, Carol breaks off her relationship with Tyreese after she saw Tyreese and Michone having sex in the gymnasium. Herschel comes to terms with Maggie

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  • Nov 03, 2005 3:24:52 PM CST

    Godamnit kentmurray you couldnt tinyurl that link?

    by darth kal-el

    it wasnt that interesting anyways!now the talback is stretched and a fucking headache to go into! oh well ill pop by occasionally but seriously reading it like this is a pain in the ass.***heathen i was looking forward to more sex talk about the x-mansion****aside from my bitchin good reviews****i liked loveless i think ill be gettign issue 2, the dd review was funny becasue its true but when i read it i was thinking to myself 'hes going to catch hell in the tbs' and sure enough the haters came out to play****iruleall she was actually a chick i met at work who saw me reading one of the 100 bullets trades and asked me about it. i still see her around but shes not really my type altho she does come borrow any trades i have lying around or my xbox magazine.ill put in a good word for u.****please fix the talkback i want to hang out all week like always but this hurts my eyes!!!!

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  • Nov 03, 2005 3:29:07 PM CST

    well said Bug

    by the heathen

    Can't wait for the military craziness to begin. I saw some of that stuff at CBR Shigeru, and have tried to not look at anything else, but I can't wait for all of it to go down!

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  • Nov 03, 2005 3:45:20 PM CST

    good for walking dead!

    by blackthought

    i figure that kirkman needs to put these people through more shit because so far they've had it nice and easy with their little tea parties and siestas...i mean seriously, this is supposed to be a zombie book and these ppl do nothing but play paddy-cake all day. finally kirkman is going to do bad stuff to these folks and i can't...er...my bad...how can you f*ck with these characters more? haven't they had enough? where is your humanity kirkman...and i love the book...its bloody great. and darth i'm with you on the tb stretching...reminds me...we shant ever recruit one who does stretch a talkback...eventually we'll have to do a roll call for the cogs...with power stats on the back of the cards and origins...i'm gonna get on that right now...or i could go back to my animation class...naw, cogs are more important.

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  • Nov 03, 2005 4:02:49 PM CST

    yeah blackthought it would be cool

    by darth kal-el

    they would be like the stats on gi joe figures back in the day.or better yet like the transformers stats that u needed the little red thing to be able to read.and yes no recruiting talkback stretchers.theyre right up there with wontbies

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  • Nov 03, 2005 5:06:36 PM CST

    Cog Smooch Rogues

    by the heathen

    Wontbies, TB Stretchers, Trolls, and

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  • Nov 03, 2005 5:34:20 PM CST

    im going old school on this one and adding 'playa hatas'

    by darth kal-el

    if pac and biggie said it it cant be wrong. :-)

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  • Nov 03, 2005 5:55:31 PM CST

    actually cheap talk

    by darth kal-el

    for me its kind of about who i know outside-my best friend is black.but i guess i should watch it online even tho im pretty sure everyone knows i was joking/referencing last weeks tb. so if i offended anybody please accept my apologies****now that im done being PC,psynapse your still a queercog .and whose your mortgage company? i asked last week but u might have missed it. if its mine i can help you with late fees!

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  • Nov 03, 2005 5:58:17 PM CST

    but

    by the heathen

    It's lyrics man, lyrics. Anyone who knows Kal-El, knows that he wouldn't call anyone that on this here site, not even a Wontbie (which imo is far worse - or the same really). Far worse has been said directly. But, careful Darth, we don't need a Cog Crisis where you get swept up by the anti-matter moderators!!!

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  • Nov 03, 2005 6:01:46 PM CST

    oh yeah, Psynapse is a total QueerCog

    by the heathen

    but that's a good thing in the diverse group of Cogs. Besides, he owns a house now, he can take a little badgering. Ooh, Badger, better not say anything about Firefly/Serenity or I'll surely get banned!

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  • Nov 03, 2005 6:03:56 PM CST

    too true heathen

    by darth kal-el

    i think thats just a little bit of baiting the reviewers going on from our mutual friend talk is cheap/whatever new variation of his screen name is being used. im not too worried about it but if i do get banned to the negative zone i expect a cog recue mission to be launched!emergency batsuits and all!

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  • Nov 03, 2005 6:33:34 PM CST

    Emergency Batsuit is in the ready!

    by the heathen

    WITH the thermal bat undies!

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  • Nov 03, 2005 6:52:12 PM CST

    im going bat-comando

    by darth kal-el

  • Nov 03, 2005 6:52:56 PM CST

    what about

    by the heathen

    shrinkage!!!

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  • Nov 03, 2005 6:57:11 PM CST

    it does get cold in the negative zone

    by darth kal-el

    shrinkage is the bane of the spandex set

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  • Nov 03, 2005 6:58:34 PM CST

    totally

    by the heathen

    you'll need a rubber cog piece

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  • Nov 03, 2005 6:59:04 PM CST

    Shrinkage breaks the emergency batsuit's back?

    by thalya

  • Nov 03, 2005 6:59:49 PM CST

    rubber cog piece!

    by darth kal-el

    lol...that was some funny shit heathen! the best is your subject line is 'totally'

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  • Nov 03, 2005 7:03:16 PM CST

    The rubber cog piece protects the nuts and bolt?

    by thalya

  • Nov 03, 2005 7:06:52 PM CST

    "totally" *snickers*

    by the heathen

    yeah, it is pretty funny now that I think about it! Thalya! How you doin? Were you fasting for the @$$holes holiday? : ) And of course the rubber cog piece protects the nuts and bolts. I test it at least once daily at work.

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  • Nov 03, 2005 7:12:47 PM CST

    I bid thee two Cogs adux(?)

    by the heathen

  • Nov 03, 2005 7:14:16 PM CST

    nuts and bolt

    by darth kal-el

    indeed it does lady calculator.

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  • Nov 03, 2005 7:14:30 PM CST

    Hey Heathen..

    by thalya

    Eh.. I've been braindead, mostly, and then going mad and crying because my fanfic is collapsing in all around me because moderate realism and absurdity don't mix.. That, and I haven't had too much to add to the conversation, so.. 'Sup with you? Did you get a chance to read those two BoP?

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  • Nov 03, 2005 7:15:23 PM CST

    later heathen

    by darth kal-el

    yeah supernatural is anus. but oh well its to be expected from the WB. have a good night with the latin goddess

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  • Nov 03, 2005 7:16:33 PM CST

    mmmm...pumkin bread sounds good....

    by darth kal-el

    so does banana bread...man im hungry!...

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  • Nov 03, 2005 7:19:25 PM CST

    *patters to the Cog Mansion's kitchen*

    by thalya

    Let me see what I can do about that... What's rockin' your world, Darth?

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  • Nov 03, 2005 7:20:34 PM CST

    just here at work bored

    by darth kal-el

    other than that its been pretty tame.im sorry to hear about the fanfic! it sounded like you had something going on there.

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  • Nov 03, 2005 7:21:35 PM CST

    your the best thalya

    by darth kal-el

    i just had to mention some food and u ran to help! awesome! i need a real life female friend like u!

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  • Nov 03, 2005 7:34:21 PM CST

    eh.. I did, so I thought...

    by thalya

    But I can't get it to work, I don't think.. What do you think of this scenario? A girl from this world has a crush on a guy from the DCU, world of the absurd that it is. She daydreams about visiting him by means of a muse-like avatar because he deserves something better than just her, but thanks to the nature of the avatar, has to leave after a time and he's left a wreck. The avatar leaves a token with him to remember her by, but he's so low, to get on with his life he needs her back somehow. He contacts a magician who notes the token has two presences attached to it, and the man infers one must be the avatar and the other must be her other half, which the avatar happened to make mention of. One presence is presumably impossible to contact, but the other isn't and the man decides one's as good as the other. He gets in contact with others who have similar problems and who find that their problems can all be traced to people on this world, so they decide to abduct them over to the DCU to deal with them. Headache-inducing complications ensue. Damn my Aries-ness. I'm overly ambitious and suck at follow-through.

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  • Nov 03, 2005 7:35:29 PM CST

    'Welcome Darth

    by thalya

    I wish I had real life friends like you guys, too..

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  • Nov 03, 2005 7:38:47 PM CST

    hmmm....banana bread...

    by blackthought

    like one of my batsignals...and i'm still pushing our stats card cog smooch thingy that i brought up...start from the originals and work on the new members...if memory serves me, original 5...blackthought, the heathen, darth kal-el, el vale and gus nukem...then we added the ever so talented lady calculator, psynapse because he he handle all mortage claims on the cog smooch watchtower/mansion/du-plex/motorhome/retireme....er...not yet. our mansion/watchtower thingy has to have its own stats card too highlighting the stocked fridge that is quite popular our supergroup...and our rogues get the treatment too...but who is the anti-monitor? i just finished re-reading crisis on infinite earths and i was reminded how much i hated that bastard...they should make a few movies based on it...have sean penn play the anti-monitor.

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  • Nov 03, 2005 7:43:35 PM CST

    sounds interesting thalya

    by darth kal-el

    i think it would have to be some mind wipe levels of secrecy involved for the big 3 to not notice people from other realities being abducted and "dealt with". but sounds interesting.im curious to see where it goes

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  • Nov 03, 2005 7:48:12 PM CST

    sounds like a good project blackthought

    by darth kal-el

    i think homer sexual and sidshowbob might have been involved at first but i dont really remember. what i remember the most about the old BC(Before Cog) days was u and gus fighting out 'LAST'. and this is weird and i by no means intend for it to offend but when psynapse posts i totally read his posts in the voice of the alien from american dad.i dont know why.i think it was that one time vale said homosexual and everyone jumped down his throat. the way psynapse came in and defended him,the way he was posting, the things he said,he aquired the voice of the alien in my mind.once again i mean it as a good thing

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  • Nov 03, 2005 7:51:50 PM CST

    well, it would only be one mission..

    by thalya

    And it could be pretty hush-hush if it was located at a time while alot of the big-name heroes were otherwise occupied and a place that was out-of-the-way.. The emotions and motivations of the thing, though, aren't meshing the best with characterization I don't think.. Maybe it would help if I understood men with regards to women, but I think I'm lost..

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  • Nov 03, 2005 7:58:44 PM CST

    dont worry thalya im lost in regards to women

    by darth kal-el

  • Nov 03, 2005 8:01:55 PM CST

    What do men want?

    by thalya

    As far as women go?

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  • Nov 03, 2005 8:08:24 PM CST

    i wont insult your inteligence

    by darth kal-el

    by pretending looks dont matter because at least for me they do to a point. but the older i get the more i want someone who will be there for you. like a partner.someone u can share your joys and pains with. and from my last experience i think im going to have to say honesty would be nice.

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  • Nov 03, 2005 8:15:08 PM CST

    and see thats where the 'lostness' comes in for me

    by darth kal-el

    ive always thought and been raised to believe if u expect to get something u should also be prepared to give it. and i always give.but i have never had a normal girlfriend. they have all turned out to be some kind of psycho/cheater/clingy psycho! did i say psycho twice?believe me it warrants a double mention. i dont know its kinda turned me off the dating scene for a while.wow it alwasy gets so 'comfortable' in here that you feel u can just blurt things out. then i get called..what was it..?i dont even remember but someone mentioned we stray off topic...fuck it....COMICS RULE!

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  • Nov 03, 2005 8:27:05 PM CST

    to add-on to darth's...on what men want...

    by blackthought

    well...for me, a muffin...that's about it. well that and what most guys want which is for a female to give birth to a son who they then can procede to have carved open so they can figure out a way to amplify their superpowers...whoops...i just finishing reading some of johns flash run and was thinking of the weather wizard. and yep gus and i did gave birth to this all-weeking with our "epic" last battles. just means him and i get bigger and fluffier chairs around the cog smooch table.

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  • Nov 03, 2005 8:32:57 PM CST

    i could go for a muffin...

    by darth kal-el

    ...actually this girl i have my eye on gave me some pretzels earlier but those just dont do too much do they?and yes i agree the all week thing was birthed from the loins of gus and blackthought.it always amused me to no end when u and gus would fight out 'last'so much so that i never got involved to not ruin the fun.it reminded me of family reunions where my 2 younger cousins who rarely saw each other would be off to the side of everyone else involved in some random jackassery or horseplay. again not meant as an insult

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  • Nov 03, 2005 8:35:41 PM CST

    Honesty's always good..

    by thalya

    I can empathize with that, well, all of it, really.. *hugs Darth* Do you get the feeling that somewhere, something's just rotten in this state of ours? Poor Hamlet ref, I know, but.. And, comics-related, DC is insane for following Grant Morrison's Animal Man blueprint for Infinite Crisis. Oh, and banana bread just came out of the oven..

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  • Nov 03, 2005 8:38:28 PM CST

    Wait, Weather Wizard did that?!

    by thalya

    Jeez, do you know which TPB that is, blackthought? I'm seriously behind on my Flash-reading..

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  • Nov 03, 2005 8:38:41 PM CST

    thanks thalya

    by darth kal-el

    *hugs thalya back*mmmm...smellls amazing! i better get some before...hey!.....godamnit blackthought bring the pan back...godamn...*chases blackthought around kitchen*

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  • Nov 03, 2005 8:41:24 PM CST

    ignore this thalya

    by darth kal-el

    this is for heathen:i was looking around for some x-men pics to download to my phone and i encountered this:http://tinyurl.com/d43ot
    "Is good da?"

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  • Nov 03, 2005 8:52:21 PM CST

    Gotta take care of my Cogs, right?

    by thalya

    *grabs a tub of cream cheese from the fridge* blackthought, dude, you get none of this unless you share.. And banana bread just isn't banana bread without cream cheese. And don't you go cheating by using that cheesecake of Darth's instead! :)

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  • Nov 03, 2005 9:01:11 PM CST

    cheesecake

    by darth kal-el

    good one thalya! i feel better taken care of already!im off work so ill be off for a while but ill drop in later on to see if theres any bread left. bye guys!

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  • Nov 03, 2005 9:06:10 PM CST

    thalya...

    by blackthought

    that weather wizard thing was in the flash: blood will run written by johns and art by kolins...and darth no offense with the lasting comment of mine and gus...i'll take it as a compliment...it's lead to cog smooching with a cool group of ppl...so all good. and on actual relationships...yep...honesty...pretty much what most hope for...i agree with you there darth...and let's see...um, the banana bread...excuse me...original cog here, bigger comfy chairs and all...i must abuse my power to feed my addictions sometimes...mmmmm...where are dem pancakes...i fear we might never fight the good fight against crime spending all this time in the kitchen :)

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  • Nov 03, 2005 9:30:41 PM CST

    thanks blackthought!

    by thalya

    Anyone read Animal Man: Deus Ex Machina, by any chance? I'm about halfway through it by now and talk about trippy!

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  • Nov 03, 2005 10:18:13 PM CST

    *Tases Darth & blackthought*

    by psynapse

    *Promptly enjoys pilfered banana bread with Thalya* Oh and Deus Ex Machina is quite the head trip...

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  • Nov 03, 2005 10:45:04 PM CST

    Psy..

    by thalya

    And you know it's a blueprint for Infinite Crisis, right? Power Girl's gonna pull a Psycho Pirate, methinks.

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  • Nov 04, 2005 12:38:50 AM CST

    unrelated note...maybe...

    by blackthought

    wow...that kong trailer...wow

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  • Nov 04, 2005 12:53:02 AM CST

    Well...Y'see...

    by psynapse

    I don't see it so much as blueprint as perhaps intellectual parent and inspiration possibly thereof. Y'see, people may have less than favorable opinions of Geoff Johns but it is his run on The Flash that has had more of my money than ever. It is also his writing on JSA that has had me there for every single issue and whatever that he has written related to the book. I think Kara Zor-L/Karen Starr/Power Girl is destined for something a bit more sublime and poignant than pulling a Psycho Pirate. That PG is STRONG inside as well as out is an integral character trait. Johns has consistently shown me in both books an ability to pull plot twists that both respect and perhaps complement and make further clear previous bits of continuity. Though it's definite it' time for some housecleaning of the character stable I don't fear for PG too get shafted in any way. *All of this is before reading JSA Classified 3 & 4 too*

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  • Nov 04, 2005 2:43:47 AM CST

    my stupid ex girlfriend is trying to get me to get back with her

    by darth kal-el

    so she posted some old pics of us on her myspace.i just thought u guys might like to know what your boy kal looks like:http://tinyurl.com/do8za

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  • Nov 04, 2005 6:56:34 AM CST

    i'm with ya there psynapse...

    by blackthought

    john's has done some really good work.

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  • Nov 04, 2005 8:05:38 AM CST

    Psynapse: Byrne's FF run "Definitive"?

    by decepticon

    WT-HOLY-F? Byrne's run was a tribute to the Lee/Kirby(and Sinnott) run, just as his Superman was a return to that character's roots. Byrne borrowed elements liberally from L/K, returning the Thing too his original less craggy form, reviving the old FF uniforms, remaking the Galactus Trilogy and more. He did an excellent job, and can justifiably lay claim to having created the 2ND best run of the FF ever, but the definitive? No way.

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  • Nov 04, 2005 9:01:31 AM CST

    Decepticon....

    by psynapse

    Literature 101: There is a thing known as paying tribute. Byrne has stated several times that paying tribute to Lee & Kirby was a purpose of his run. He didn't 'borrow' anything. He took previously established ideas and refined and expanded further upon them. By labeling Byrne's writing as 'borrowing' you've declared 99% of all writers everywhere as 'borrowers'.

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  • Nov 04, 2005 9:02:08 AM CST

    So I guess

    by shigeru

    I'm not an official Cog huh? Not even on the reserve list? Fuck I guess I'm gonna go start my own cog Rogues group.

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  • Nov 04, 2005 11:06:56 AM CST

    hey now...

    by blackthought

    shig...we haven't even made a complete roll call...we were just starting with the origins...goodness...as for rogues, that's another thing.

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  • Nov 04, 2005 11:11:49 AM CST

    Fuck i knew wed forget someone

    by darth kal-el

    shigeru...my friend...were all one group.and yes definitely you are a cog!*takes away blackthought's extra fluffy chair*here man will this help make up for forgetting the mighty shig?

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  • Nov 04, 2005 11:19:45 AM CST

    I'll forgive you...

    by shigeru

    but I will also set up detailed files on all of you and your secret identities and weaknesses. Oh and some spy satellites too.

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  • Nov 04, 2005 11:54:23 AM CST

    Has Zatanna #4 (from 7SoV) been released in the US? When?

    by gus nukem

  • Nov 04, 2005 12:13:01 PM CST

    Zatanna #4

    by shigeru

    Has been pushed back. It hasn't been released yet...my local shop owner didn't know when it would be coming out. Which is, as I like to say, a BUMMER.

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  • Nov 04, 2005 12:44:07 PM CST

    Hmm...definitive...funny word

    by homer sexual

    I would have to say that the only time I ever enjoyed, or purchased monthly, Fantastic Four was during Byrne's run. He did some great things, including obviously She-Hulk, ramping up Sue, making them all more relatable and (my favorite) having Alicia dump Ben for Johnny. The best FF ever. But, I guess it isn't "definitive" because She-Hulk wasn't in the movie, and Sue was young and, well, vacant. On Flash (another character I find boring) I did read much of the excellent Meissner-Loebs run. And I read some of Johns, which was good but I really prefer Meissner-Loebs. Both are human but I felt M-L made West more complex. Only four reviews? Geez! ps: Yes, I am an incompetent, bitter sheep but HoM 8: a finale where nothing happens. This week I only bought 3 comics and wonder if I am soon going to save a lot of money. Loved the Power Girl conclusion, hope she doesn't get killed in a month or two.

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  • Nov 04, 2005 1:17:56 PM CST

    Seriously, all of you Cogs (Shigeru included : ) ) are freakin&#

    by the heathen

    Thalya, you're an aries! That explains a lot of you motivation, my girl is one too, and so is my bulldog - but he's not very motivated unless it's smelly or involves food. I read BoP #73, but not #72 (the images for that site w/ all the issues wouldn't work on my computer) and I'm guessing the picture of the crisis was in #72 right? I don't think I've ever laughed out loud like I have at my computer like I did when I saw that link with Piotr and Kitty! Is definitely good da! Oh, and about guy's - we want everything, but I think women do too. We lived in fucked up times and when it comes down to it we just need to be there for one another. *** Since blackthought and Gus have fluffier chairs at the Cog dinner table does this mean that they will have epic "LAST" battles every night at said table? Don't worry Shigeru, The Heathen was actually forgotten after the first All Weeker! But, we really didn't know people then. You were just forgot this time because you're married and happy. : ) Now of course, you guy's and gal are the coolest. *** King Kong trailer was great! Might I point out that they used the Batman Begins music too. *** Darth, you're Poo Bear! Oh, below that. So she's trying to lure back the last son of Krypton huh? Keep strong guy. And, "These pretzels are making me thirsty!!!"

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  • Nov 04, 2005 1:33:44 PM CST

    a heathen post

    by darth kal-el

    always a.)makes me laugh out loud or b.)puts a smile on my face.yeah im staying strong. shes out altho i have to say her run, while not definitive was certainly up there.***and yes when i saw the kitty/piots thing i knew i had to post it for heathen.***i picked up powers yesterday and there is a really acurate bit about people on the internet.im hoping i can find it and link to it.***anf its finally friday!!

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  • Nov 04, 2005 2:02:24 PM CST

    tgif

    by the heathen

    remember when that was popular programming such as Full House, Family Matters, Step By Step, and Perfect Strangers? On Fridays no less! Not even Firefly can survive on Friday nights these days. And tgif on ABC? Hope & Faith? Kill me now! Darth, that X-Men post was awesomely funny! Seriously. Did you use it as your phones wallpaper? Ant more you can mention about Powers? Infinite Crisis #2 is already here next Wednesday! Anyone read Fear Agent #1? I liked it. It was simple old school sci-fi with aliens and lasers, etc.

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  • Nov 04, 2005 2:06:25 PM CST

    The time i called James Marsden a homosexual

    by el vale

    That was some crazy shit. Gus was like...pretty intense with his "Do you understand, brother?". For a moment there i thought, for some strange reason, that he was an @$$hola and i was gonna get banned so i was real apologetic and nice. Glad i was because knowing me, i would've started calling him a fucking motherfucker had i remembered who he really was, and no one wants that.

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  • Nov 04, 2005 2:09:07 PM CST

    Incidentally

    by el vale

    It's pretty weird that Darth looks exactly like i pictured he'd look like. Now i also imagined his name was like...Humberto or something, not Yorik! Am i reading it wrong?

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  • Nov 04, 2005 2:10:24 PM CST

    Oh and finally

    by el vale

    What about the term "generation dumbass"? That one still counts dunnit?

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  • Nov 04, 2005 2:16:51 PM CST

    Vale, Darth does look like I pictured him as well

    by the heathen

    I thought he was joking about his real name being Yorick because of Y: The last Man, but it's cool that he wasn't. And the only picture I've seen of you is the one of you as a baby with face paint on, and we've all seen Psynapse as Superpimp with that 'fro! I'm afraid by the time people see what the Heathen looks like I will have let myself go too much. Time to work out! Make some protein shakes!!!

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  • Nov 04, 2005 2:21:38 PM CST

    my name really is Yorik its no lie

    by darth kal-el

    and im glad both of u guys were picturing me in your minds...hopefully while u masturbated!

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  • Nov 04, 2005 2:23:59 PM CST

    Animal Man in IC #2

    by the heathen

    http://tinyurl.com/8hzff ** For first 3 pages of IC #2. I shamefully admit to knowing next to nothing about Animal Man, accept that I should know more. A brief history anyone?

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  • Nov 04, 2005 2:24:14 PM CST

    I wonder if Gus looks like Nia Vardalos

    by el vale

    If he doesn't then i'm totally off.

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  • Nov 04, 2005 2:27:25 PM CST

    i kid i kid

    by darth kal-el

    seriously thats funny u guys thought i would look like i look.yeah i saw the baby vale pic and the psynapse(btw psy are u ignoring me?)and humberto?!da fug?! i like my unique name even tho that bastard vaughan stole it!***and generation dumbass still counts in my book***i was about to post that we havent seen vale in a while and should we be worried.

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  • Nov 04, 2005 2:28:22 PM CST

    you better not have ruined my "alone time" Kal-El

    by the heathen

    If I see any Poo Bears or Yoriks ar anything while

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  • Nov 04, 2005 2:45:54 PM CST

    Animal Man

    by shigeru

    Wait...so if Animal Man can "absorb" (or whatever) powers from animals...what the fuck would he do in space?? These are the thoughts that keep me up at night. That and Darth Kal-El.

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  • Nov 04, 2005 2:56:45 PM CST

    Decisions

    by the heathen

    bigstormparty.com ** My friend is throwing the second anual Big Storm Party. It was thrown last year in the middle of nowhere (5 miles from where I lived) and I thought that nobody would come until I drove by and saw about 200 cars parked along the road. Utter insanity my friends. This year, it's connecected to 3 clubs somehow and I'm once again skeptical. I dunno, I just haven't been in the mood for people around here lately. I'm sure Shigeru knows what I'm talking about having lived down here. I want to talk about something besides what Grey Goose mixes best with. It's okay, but all the time? My friends are always saying not to have any excuses, but I do. I have work deadlines and responsiblities that they don't. Diabetes anyone? I fear I am the jaded partier and that depresses me. : (

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  • Nov 04, 2005 3:55:13 PM CST

    jaded partiers, the xbox 360 and alone time

    by darth kal-el

    i too fear i have become one of those jaded partiers who sit on the sidelines and talk about "back in the day".but really i dont hit parties too much anymore.im more of a bar kind of guy.in fact i hang out at our local tgif a lot. you guys would love this bar.otu of the 4 regular weekend bartenders 3 of them are avid comics/star wars/sci fi/video game geeks so its a cool place to go kick back and shoot the shit with like minded geeks.***i think the xbox 360 looks amazing.with the faceplates u can change and the whole new live experience but i dont see myself getting one on launch day.i want to wait out the first wave which is usually where all the bugs come out and also the price tag is steep and there are not too many games i want to play available at launch. but yeah i think maybe by summer of next year ill have one.***and i think i ruined my own alone time with the image of pooh...and i dont mean winnie

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  • Nov 04, 2005 4:15:35 PM CST

    "and i dont mean winnie" so funny and wrong at the same time!

    by the heathen

    Yeah, I might wait for the 360 too. I LITERALLY know nobody that reads comics that lives near me, besides the guy's that run Mega Comics. But, that's only once every week or two and I'm only in store for 20 min. or so. And it's not only the comic geekery, nobody wants to talk about movies or anything like that in what used to be my circle. That's my thing, always has been, always will. I'm trying to get my cousin into reading some comics, but he's such a snob. He say's shit like, "No, I've been reading NOVELS." Prick. I told him about Stephen King doing Dark Tower as a comic to shut him up a little. Maybe it's because I come from a family that thinks they are always ignorantly right? I dunno? Wow. This was a chaotic post on my part.

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  • Nov 04, 2005 5:06:17 PM CST

    it was kaotic

    by darth kal-el

    but chic, my friend

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  • Nov 04, 2005 5:10:47 PM CST

    Vale

    by gus nukem

    No, I don't. Such an erroneous assumption hurt me. As for back then, it was "Am I understood, BROTHER?" That was a Hulk Hogan reference placed so as to undermine the serious nature of my post's message, which I meant. I am afraid you didn't get the reference.

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  • Nov 04, 2005 5:17:31 PM CST

    a question about Lone Wolf and Cub

    by gus nukem

    Has it ever been released in english in the original japanese reading format, ie not inverted? *** In the Dark Horse editions the said inversion creates various inaccuracies such as warriors wearing their swords in the wrong side of their belt and so on.

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  • Nov 04, 2005 5:24:13 PM CST

    Animal Man in the IC

    by gus nukem

    I recently read the 1st Animal Man TP and found it poignant and overall very good. Since he ties in to the DC multiverse awareness thing and various C-listers have been offed, or mistreated in an exemplary (to fellow DCU characters) manner since Identity Crisis, I'm afraid he will suffer a similar fate. However, so far I've read up to Infinite Crisis #1 and may be proven utterly wrong on this.

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  • Nov 04, 2005 5:30:45 PM CST

    So, who's read 303 from Avatar? - imo, Ennis's all-time

    by gus nukem

    Vale, you now have no excuse. -- And Jacen Burrows (artist) is exceptional here. So is Andrew Dalhouse (colorist - I hate how colorists are never mentioned)

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  • Nov 04, 2005 5:46:50 PM CST

    comics, novels & graphic novels

    by gus nukem

    I dislike how people who create or sell comics try to advertise them as graphic novels. It's as if we feel guilty over such a pleasure and we try to promote it as something related to literature for it (comics) to gain more prestige to the point where it can be accepted by the ignorant mainstream. Comics - just like manga - means funny, whimsical pictures. Hell, look at their importance as part of the human illustration: people drawing in their caves' walls various rituals, or pictorials of their daily routine necessary for their survival. This thing evolves, gives us other forms of graphic art and in the 20th (19th?) century is christened a name which means funny pictures. Okay with me. But comics don't need to be associated with literature to be considered a valid art form. I say it proud and I say it loud that I enjoy reading COMICS.

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  • Nov 04, 2005 5:51:17 PM CST

    Superman's Creek

    by gus nukem

  • Nov 04, 2005 7:25:30 PM CST

    ok so i was bored

    by darth kal-el

    so i was looking through my exes myspace with all that shit about 'my love' this and 'my love' that. this is just shameless bullshit right?i mean she chated on me with another guy!how can she sound so damn sencere?is it just me?thalya a girls pov would be greatly appreciated

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  • Nov 04, 2005 7:27:03 PM CST

    and did u guys see...

    by darth kal-el

    ...me rockin' the spidey/wolvie/daredevil t shirt in vegas? i was geek representin!

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  • Nov 04, 2005 7:48:52 PM CST

    oh my....

    by blackthought

    darth you are like 10'10'' or something...a giant...and what's up with holding that spear? i must say your figure is quite alluring...and the loin cloth is fantastically provacative. and the way your skin is glimmering from the light...just perfection.

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  • Nov 04, 2005 8:11:43 PM CST

    Crap

    by drcool975

    Hey, Bug, You are a shitty reviewer, just so you know. If you are going to give a thumbs down on an issue, do it on its merits but don't put up some sad pathetic attempt at humor and sit back with a smug smirk of self-satisfaction as you send the review email off to the deaf, dumb and blind A-Hole editor that would allow you to get away with showcasing what a jealous, no-talent "I wish They would let ME write a comic!" hack you are. Daredebil was off the hook this month and you are still a clown. Delete if you want. Increase my low esteem for you.

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  • Nov 04, 2005 8:13:27 PM CST

    no subject

    by drcool975

    And Daredebil is a great comic.

    Daredevil is even better!

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  • Nov 04, 2005 8:38:52 PM CST

    Birds of Prey, morphogenic fields, and exes

    by thalya

    Heathen: I have motivation? Wow, that's actually news to me..ideas, yeah, ok, motivation? hmm.. As for BoP, it wasn't actually showing the crisis, but revealing who the baddie will be, it's all in the dialogue. *** Shigeru: Animal Man's powers derive from something called the morphogenic field (or morphenogenic field, I'm too lazy to look it up). It's something that all living animals are tapped into, he just has the ability to tap in and channel whatever else is attached, even extinct animals. He doesn't have to be near a particular animal in order to channel it, though that may have been the case early in his history until he found out about the m.f. *** Darth: hmmm..either it's old stuff, she's in serious denial, and/or some people just have serious delusions. Case in point: my first ex pretty much told me stone cold after two years that he didn't love me. From what I gathered later on, he did it pretty much out of delusions of grandeur, thinking he was 'protecting' me for some reason. Your ex needs a sound thwapping to the head, empathy lessons, and a reality-check. 'nuff said.

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  • Nov 04, 2005 8:47:43 PM CST

    would u kindly do the thwapping lady c?

    by darth kal-el

    she actually had a bunch of other shit up before but she text mesagged me to check out what she had updated and it was all that vegas shit and the whole 'my love' crap.but i hear ya.its funny how we try to hold on to things even tho we know theyre harmful to us...thanks for the input*hugs thalya*

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  • Nov 04, 2005 8:59:05 PM CST

    see you laters...

    by blackthought

    cog smoochers, it's off to jarhead...oh and it's free...i've come to like free things. till then...animal best not get the axe!...grant morrison will cry.

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  • Nov 04, 2005 9:24:20 PM CST

    I think this job requires a cricket bat..

    by thalya

    *hugs back* Anytime, dude.

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  • Nov 04, 2005 10:28:01 PM CST

    Gus

    by el vale

    OOohhh...well a wrestling reference is most likely to go over my head 90% of the time. And 303 is lined up for downloading my man. Worry not.

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  • Nov 05, 2005 2:11:27 AM CST

    cricket bat,badmington raquet,whatever gets the job done

    by darth kal-el

    and vale yeah i dont understand wrestling myself.its like days of our lives with fighting...er...with...overacting...uhh...i mean...yeah its a soap opera

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  • Nov 05, 2005 2:58:20 AM CST

    Might I offer a subtle suggestion on the subject of exes...

    by psynapse

    NEVER GO BACK *I Repeat* NEVER EVVVVER GO BACK. Do not burn the bridge, BLOW THE MOTHERUCKER UP, with as much emotional and intellectual C4 as you can possibly put together.*Don't make me call you a spineless douchebag soldier!* Crazies do not become un-crazy, and the practicing definition of insanity is repeating the same action over and over again expecting a different result.

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  • ...was surprised by how much I enjoyed it. Humph, how could you not mention the talking cat?! I know, I know, talking cats are actually kind of played out in prose fiction, too often being cloyingly precious concoctions, but I liked this one. Caught in a Doran interview that it was actually based visually on JMS's own cat, and I *was* impressed with it as a visual presence. Heroes, monsters, aliens, babes...there's a huge staple of cliches we're used to dominating our comic pages, but I can't recall ever having a cat with such presence (outside the manga WHAT'S MICHAEL). That was a nice change of pace. ***** As for the story in toto, I do agree we're in something of a "wait and see" area, but I'm getting good vibes, getting MIDNIGHT NATION vibes. What little humor there was reasonably low key, and not that annoyingly schticky stuff JMS often uglies-up his stories with. And the art is gorgeous, some of my favorite ever from Doran. The metaphysical stuff...that's the wait and see part. Certainly worthy of a try out from the Gaiman/JMS groupies, and anyone with a passing interest in darker-tinged fantasy I suspect. Oh, and cat lovers of course. Duh.

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  • Nov 05, 2005 4:10:06 AM CST

    Definitive FLASH

    by dave_f

    Never read Waid's run, but knowing my usual reaction to his stuff, I'm betting it wouldn't be up my alley. So acknowledging I'm not up on all the candidates, Johns gets my vote for definitive FLASH guy, with the somewhat unfortunate caveat that his run petered out notably in its last few years. In fact, I'd have to say that assessing the run as a whole leads me to the conclusion that it was only the first half that was legitimately great. Still no mean feat - was definitely the first time I'd been so excited about the character, even Baron's run having felt a bit spotty - but it's a little unfortunate. Losing Scott Kolins was a huge blow for the book. He was the Byrne to Johns's Claremont, and not a single artist who followed in his wake could match his feel for speedster action. And then there's Zoom, the arch-villain. I know Johns is really big on this above all his other villainous revamps, but honestly, I never bought into him. That his actions took the book in the wretched post-issue-200 direction of angst over Wally's miscarried twins only cements my distaste for him, and the retconned saving of the twins didn't do a damn thing to make me feel better about the situation. In fact, it almost cheapened it. Two years of gloomy stories and abracadabra, the cause is suddenly undone? Not cool, man, not cool at all. It's shaken my confidence in Johns, I guy I thought of briefly as untouchable in the world of mainstream superheroes. Well, that and his status as one of the masterminds of all the new CRISIS crap. Word is that in the wake of CRISIS, DC might go all heroic and friendly again, but I fear that it'll ring as hollow as Johns' 11th hour reprieve for Wally and Linda's twins.

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  • Nov 05, 2005 4:16:30 AM CST

    Azzarello's LOVELESS?

    by dave_f

    Solid, but probably not a book I'll follow. I've seen the uncannily-good-gunman one too many times in Westerns and was hoping for something more original to the mix than "everyone in the Old West was a shitheel." And Humph is definitely right about the otherwise nice art turning up characters who're difficult to tell apart. Anyway, it'd be nice to have some writers exploring some new concepts in the Old West setting. Something a little more human, a little more like LONESOME DOVE.

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  • Interesting review, superhero. Your criticisms sound legit to me, but manga volumes are a bit like Bendis comics -- sometimes ya gotta work through a few to get a good feel for where the story and characters are going. Not that a book is owed that kind of investment if the first outing doens't intrigue, but...well, I figure I'll give a few volumes a borrow from my pal. I've got a lot of fondness for the mondo bizarro surgical adventure of Tezuka's old BLACK JACK manga, and RAY sounds like something of a successor. But with breasteses!

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  • Nov 05, 2005 4:42:15 AM CST

    I've been kind of haphazardly following Power Girl's adv

    by dave_f

    And correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the series conclude with the big reveal being exactly what we all expected? That Power Girl is a remnant character from pre-CRISIS? And didn't this arc, which kicked off an entire new monthly, in fact *not* end, but just wrap with a segue into INFINITE CRISIS? That don't seem cool to me at all.

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  • Nov 05, 2005 4:46:53 AM CST

    Weird thing about YOUNG AVENGERS...

    by dave_f

    If I had a beef with the first story arc - which I mostly enjoyed - it was just that it went on too long. But at least it was something different, and now that we enter arc two, I'm almost missing it. There's an unfortune conventionality to the last two issues, with the fight scenes in particular feeling a lot like they were dredged up from Marvel of the '80s. And I *love* Marvel of the '80s, but you can't just transplant it into modern times and expect it to enthrall. Still reading the book, but I'm on my guard now.

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  • Nov 05, 2005 4:58:29 AM CST

    Oh, and y'all are right, we should've covered a bit more

    by dave_f

    It veered a little spoofy for me at times, but overall was very winning. I even liked Steve Niles' contribution - maybe the best of all of 'em - and I normally hate Steve Niles! And speaking of monsters, Hamgravy is all kinds of right in praising B.P.R.D. It's been absolutely fucking awesome of late, a perfect melding of art and story. As far as I'm concerned, Mignola can maintain his art-vacation if Guy Davis is the regular fill-in. Mignola's a god, but his art's a little impersonal in its gothic slickness, isn't it? Davis is more textured, more human, more emotive. Definitely the preferred choice for team stuff, although Mignola remains Da Man when it comes to solo Hellboy outings.

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  • Nov 05, 2005 5:08:34 AM CST

    P.S. I own the tail end of this TalkBack

    by dave_f

    Cogs? Oh, please. S'all me, G, and we'll be spending the rest of the night talking about Paul Chadwick's brilliance, WHAT'S MICHAEL as the world's funniest comic, and why everyone should be reading THIEVES & KINGS. Modern superheroes will also be dogged on. BYOB.

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  • Nov 05, 2005 7:54:58 AM CST

    wow dave...

    by blackthought

    it's like you're just riffing stream of concious like on your views of comics totally against the flow of the talkback while hi-jacking it which is different them we cogs who have just been in a love fest of hugs, hate for ex's and the merits of qouting pro-wrestlers of the overly tanned orange look alah hogan. either way it's all good venting.

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  • Nov 05, 2005 10:16:58 AM CST

    Psynapse: "By labeling Byrne's writing as 'borrowing'

    by decepticon

    You're statement is correct, but I would go even further. I would say that borrowing is integral to the creative process: new ideas are built upon old ideas. Everyone who has to think creatively "borrows" to some degree, whether we're talking about Shakespeare, George Lucas, The Beatles, Albert Einstein, Stan Lee or Jack Kirby. Saying Byrne borrowed is not an insult, just a statement of fact. Moreover, as I posted earlier, I think Byrne's FF run was great and he made excellent use of what he borrowed. But that doesn't make Byrne's FF "definitive", which is what's really in question here. For me, definitive run on an existing superhero comic needs to leap at least the some of the following hurdles: 1) Redefine the personality and motivations of the hero(es), by significantly emphasizing a character aspect that existed but hadn't been elaborated previously or by changing completely the persona and perhaps even identity of the hero. 2) Change the visual approach to the comic and perhaps even the signature look of the main character.3) Change the abilities and weaknesses of the hero or the reasons for them. 4) Significantly expand/alter the backstory of the hero or create an entirely new one. 5) Redefine the villains and their relationship to the hero or create entirely new antagonists. 6) Expand the base of supporting characters and/or redefine their relationship to the hero, or replace them with new characters. 7) Define the tone of the comic and the themes that drive the narrative. 8) Make a sigficant contribution to history of the hero, an event or decision that has a major impact on the character and even their world. 9) Have other writer/artists accept that interpretation of the hero and comic as the basis for their version. 10) A definitive run needs to be at least as good if not superior to any other run on that book. Miller's Daredevil and Batman, Moore's Swamp Thing, Wolfman/Perez's Titan's and Claremont/Byrne's Xmen all fullfil the majority of my criteria. David's Hulk might too. But not Byrne's FF. He didn't redefine the book: he brought it back to the Lee/Kirby basics. Fine comic, yes, definitive, no.

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  • Nov 05, 2005 11:21:51 AM CST

    Dave_F Strikes Back!!!

    by the heathen

    Good to hear from Dave. I expected JSA Classified to tie-in to Crisis because it was the definitve origin of PG and pretty much everybody knows that she was going to be playing a vital part in it, so I wasn't bothered by it. Then again, I loved the hell out of IC #1. So, you know, to each his own. What I'm really bummed about is Friendly Neighborhood Spidey's first issue being a ginarmous CROSSOVER. Marvel got Peter David back and have given him the shaft twice now. I'm looking forward to his new X-Factor series too btw. SIDENOTE: HoM has ended and not anybody has posted anything about it. I haven't read it myself yet, but when a tentpole event ends with about as much buzz as Into the Blue, then that's a problem Marvel. Besides, it feels like everything after HoM will at least be more interesting storywise, but I dunno. *** I think Daredebil sucks, and I haven't read Daredevil. *** Don't fall for her trap Darth! She's an aries right? No offense to Lady C. or my girl, and my bulldog Remmigan, but they'll do anything do get what they want. And rock that shirt! *** I'm off to see Jarhead as well (not for free) and maybe a sneak peek of Zathura. I recently saw Weatherman and it was quite good. Actually, the best thing I've seen in a while. Very dry and dark humor, but well done. *** Fear Agent? Girls? I know you've read Girls Dave. What does you or anyone think of it? Discuss, and I'll be back later. See ya Cogs and @$$es!!!

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  • Credit to the Luna brothers for doing something different, but I'm just not plugging into their stuff. I hear there are giant death-sperms in the latest GIRLS, though, so I might look in again. No one can say they're following cliches! **** As for FEAR AGENT, I actually haven't read it yet, somehow. Maybe I can give it some late coverage for next week's column. ***** Peter David hosed at Marvel? What was the first incident of this? 'Cause my sense is that it's actually the fans who've let him down a bit. Caught an interview with him where he talked about how readers has clammored for his return to HULK for ages, but when he finally did it...hardly a bump in sales at all. Just seems like fans sometimes don't know what they want. Me, I'm not a big fan, but I liked MADROX, so I'm interested in the new X-FACTOR. And with gritted teeth over IDW prices, I'll of course be checking out FALLEN ANGEL. ***** On the subject of all things Cog...astrology is as fake as wrasslin' and should never be used as the basis for ANY decisions, but banana bread is always a good thing.

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  • Nov 05, 2005 7:42:03 PM CST

    The Velvet Marauder

    by gus nukem

    velvetmarauder.blogspot.com ***** "It's like Bridget Jones' diary, but with a super-powered vigilante." ***** Excellent fun; I recommend your reading should start with the archives

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  • Nov 05, 2005 10:06:06 PM CST

    superhero movie news...

    by blackthought

    chud's got the first official spider-man 3 movie pic up and it's full on flint marko glory with the green and black striped shirt.

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  • Nov 05, 2005 11:23:09 PM CST

    Good call blackthought. Superherohype also has it. I figure it

    by heywood jablowme

    Cool News my ass. At least the comic boards are good. Sometimes.

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  • Nov 06, 2005 1:52:11 PM CST

    Sometimes?

    by the heathen

    Dare I say "most of the time." Yeah, MOST of the time. *** Dave, I read that Peter David really didn't want to do a HoM crossover, but it was suggested that he should. And, if sales did suck for Hulk, then that's bad, but I personally bought all the issues of his first arc. As for Friendly Neighborhood Spidey? Marvel totally had the first issue be a part of a giant crossover, and that would irk me if I was the writer. David, is a good writer and Marvel should give him his due. His Spike: Old Times one shot was my first Buffyverse comic and I'll be fine if it's my last because it was perfect in my opinion. *** Jarhead was awesome. *** Thomas Hayden Church looks perfect as Sandman too.

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  • Nov 06, 2005 2:06:12 PM CST

    heathen

    by blackthought

    jarhead was pretty good...hoo-rah...sorry you had to pay for it!...i kid...and yeah, hayden looks pretty dangtastic as sandman...now the question...who is grace playing?

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  • Nov 06, 2005 3:37:45 PM CST

    and my bulldog Remmigan

    by darth kal-el

    like most heathen posts that one line had me rolling.***good to hear from dave even tho hes having delusions of grandeur about owning the tail end of this talkback-everybody knows it never ends***thats a sweet sandman pic for sure!cant wait!***i think im catching jarhead today btu im not sure.depends on how lazy i feel.good to hear itll be worth it if i go.***my brother had show yesterday and they were amazing.im not just being biased because i thought the whole band did great. check them out at crostworld.com.im telling u im going to be in a backstage are sorrounded by groupies in the near future.i can feel it**

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  • Nov 06, 2005 9:49:13 PM CST

    Yeah, sometimes.

    by heywood jablowme

    This week's board has been pretty good. Sometimes they're lame, hey, it happens. Wait for next week, where only four books came out worth reviewing. As far as the definitive FF run, I've got to give it to Byrne. Obviously the creators define the characters as far as origin and general place and purpose in the world, but often it's later writers take characters to levels that the truly define characters. Did Bob Kane write the best Batman stories? Siegal & Schuster, Superman? I don't want to take anything away from Stan (because he'll sue me-jk) or Kirby (because he gave us the Silver Surfer) but Byrne wrote the FF that evolved and became relevant to readers.

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  • Nov 07, 2005 12:36:36 AM CST

    Hey people

    by el vale

    How was your weekend?

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  • Nov 07, 2005 12:57:27 AM CST

    weekend...

    by blackthought

    for me, is now finished, sleep well.

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  • Nov 07, 2005 9:02:17 AM CST

    Decepticon, by your own criteria, Byrne

    by mortsleam

    1) Redefine the personality and motivations of the hero(es), by significantly emphasizing a character aspect that existed but hadn't been elaborated previously or by changing completely the persona and perhaps even identity of the hero: Like adding She-Hulk and leaving Ben Grimm in human form on the Beyonder

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  • Nov 07, 2005 9:06:59 AM CST

    Giant Death-Sperm

    by shigeru

    There were giant death sperm in The Filth way before Girls came out. *** Heathen what did you think of Ult. Spidey?? One of the better issues yet IMO. When Black Cat unmaks Spidey only to hurl on him...oh man that had me rolling. How can Bendis produce this much quality and simultaneously produce snoozey HOM?

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  • Nov 07, 2005 9:10:00 AM CST

    snoozey? snoozy?

    by shigeru

    Is that a word?

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  • Nov 07, 2005 11:31:25 AM CST

    snoozey

    by the heathen

    If it's not a word, then it should be. I have to be honest - I've never read Ultimate Spidey. I've actually only read a handful of Ultimate titles here and there. When I jumped back into comics it was around the time the Ultimates line started, but I was disenchanted by the whole idea at first, but I've since warmed up to them. Bendis surely can kick ass and be lame all in the course of just a week. I still haven't read HoM #8 and I've heard not even a whisper of it hear (and this is a comics tb!) New Avengers was pretty average last issue as well. I hear Powers was good and I hear he's mostly good w/ Ult Spidey. One of these day's I'll read the HC of them all probably, but not before I read Blankets in the winter!

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  • Nov 07, 2005 12:17:43 PM CST

    oh.

    by shigeru

    For some reason I thought I had talked to you about USM before. Must be the liquor. SIDE NOTE: There is a liquor store a few towns over from me that is named, no joke, "BUNGHOLE LIQUORS".

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  • Nov 07, 2005 12:26:06 PM CST

    it must be the liquor

    by darth kal-el

    as i read this it is 10:22am so i hope me and u are separated by a 3 hour difference shigeru! but who am i to judge?drink em if u got em! even here on the west coast.and yeah heathen powers was good but it always is an exceptionally good comic.alos i second the vote for ultimate spidey.and man the xbox game was soo sweet and its in continuity.***bunghole liquors? thats scary and awesome all at the same time

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  • Nov 07, 2005 12:34:38 PM CST

    "Bunghole Liquors"

    by the heathen

    I did an ad for "Beavers Discount Liquors" run by two Indian gentlemen who bickered over and over about the prices of their beer, but Bunghole takes the cake. *** I hope Bendis keeps at least his main title (Ult Spidey or New Avengers now?) in a more consistent state. I truely believe he's talented, but even David Fincher gave us Alien 3 you know? I've heard next to nothing of Bendis' involment after HoM. Are they calling it 'Decimation' as another event directly after HoM or is it just a bunch of minis and one shots? 198, Son of M, Generation M, X-Men Deadly Genesis, etc. Looks like Marvel is doing what DC has done, but backwards, lead off w/ the main event and then have a bunch of minis afterwords. Hmm.

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  • I don't understand how me, a dedicated Marvel Zombie who hardly ever read DC growing up, can be REALLY into this insanely continuity-heavy DC Crisis Event and absolutely not care about HOM. Maybe cause I didn't like Disassembled? Then again, who did?? *** Don't worry Darth it was just an expression, no liquor for me. yet. Speaking of comic video games... did anybody play the Hulk: Ultimate Destruction game? That game seriously kicked my nuts off. So good.

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  • Nov 07, 2005 1:20:17 PM CST

    hulk game

    by darth kal-el

    yeah that game kicks a lot of ass! im currently playing far cry instincts on the xbox but i just bought starwars battlefront 2 so im looking forward to getting into that

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  • Nov 07, 2005 1:23:27 PM CST

    and yes house of m

    by darth kal-el

    was underwhelming to say the least. it all ends ****spoilers**** with a big setup for the next batch of minis/new event? remember the good ol days when a giant crossover actually ended and not spawned 3 new crossovers?im sitting this whole thing out. thankfully the ultimate universe remains very readable.

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  • Nov 07, 2005 1:28:18 PM CST

    new Star Trek TOS comic from Tokyopop coming in 2006

    by gus nukem

    from newsarama. I 'll be checking it out.

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  • Nov 07, 2005 1:31:10 PM CST

    the Perry Bible Fellowship

    by gus nukem

    online strip. Recently won a big award for online strips. Awesome fun. ** cheston.com/pbf/archive.html ** I believe the updates arrive on a weekly basis

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  • Nov 07, 2005 1:36:45 PM CST

    HoM

    by el vale

    http://tinyurl.com/dmu62 There's a little something for HoM down there. About Bendis...well you can't expect every writer to kick ass on everything. I think i'll read this much maligned series when someone uploads it (:P) because i think i know my Bendis and i know taht his most powerful moments are small personal ones that really strike a chord with me, even if people were expecting a humongous event or something of the sort. I even love the art that i've seen in previews, so there!

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  • Nov 07, 2005 1:39:14 PM CST

    good books I recently read

    by gus nukem

    I am too lazy to write a review, still I recommend them to anyone who may give a dead rat's ass for my tastes. Desolation Jones #3, Fell #2, 303 #6 (hell, yeah), Daredevil vs Punisher #5 - Lapham seems to me a creator whose work can never be bad or mediocre. This one lives up to the MAX title and feels like Miller's DD; sorry for comparing it to others' work - but hey, I am talking about masters. Ellis's JLA Classified feels like he was really bored with it and wrote it on auto-pilot.

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  • Nov 07, 2005 2:04:16 PM CST

    gus...

    by blackthought

    i'm totally with you on desolation jones...truly cog worthy.

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  • Nov 07, 2005 2:20:15 PM CST

    Ultimate Hulk rips Ult. Wolverine in 2

    by gus nukem

    SHOCK! - blackthought, you agree with me, largely because of my skills of persuasion as demonstrated on my previous post. My friend, make no mistake about it: this is a (new - the last was with his 4 Avatar imaginary 1st issues) renaissance for all things Ellis: Desolation Jones and Fell (the good); Blackgas was just announced from Avatar. And the masses can enjoy JLA Classified and some Ultimate titles with which Mr. Ellis can pay his bills. I don't know which side (independent, good work, or mockery of the mainstream zombies) Livewires will be on. Sorry for the incoherency of this post, I am in a hurry. Later.

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  • Nov 07, 2005 3:10:09 PM CST

    Question for all

    by mattb127

    OK, by now, I assume everyone knows that Power Girl is the cousin of Earth-2 Superman. But if that's true...wouldn't that make her the most powerful character in the DCU? I mean, like, many, many times stronger than the present continuity Superman? Byrne had a story where post-crisis Superman confronted pre-crisis Superboy, and pre-crisis Superboy kicked his ass. Wouldn't Power Girl be able to fly backwards in time, and move planets, and survive in space and all that? Anyone...?

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  • Nov 07, 2005 7:58:22 PM CST

    mattb127-Wasn't Power Girl having problems with her powers f

    by superhero

  • Nov 07, 2005 8:51:43 PM CST

    gus...

    by blackthought

    on ellis...i am wherever planetary goes...damn...i need more now.

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  • Nov 07, 2005 9:40:18 PM CST

    Manga's getting more mainstream..

    by thalya

    http://tinyurl.com/bd2tz

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  • Nov 08, 2005 1:00:58 AM CST

    Who's he?

    by gus nukem

  • Nov 08, 2005 7:59:00 AM CST

    Daredevil Review

    by dannyocean01

    Stop it. You're not funny. You never will be. Either review the comic or give it to someone else.

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  • Nov 08, 2005 8:17:25 AM CST

    but...

    by blackthought

    what if it was funny?

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  • Nov 08, 2005 9:02:26 AM CST

    to Superhero re: Powergirl

    by mattb127

    Yeah, okay, maybe she had some "psychological block" or some such thing. But now, she knows. Which makes her Numero Uno on the Power Scale in the DCU. Part of the whole Crisis after-effect was to "power-down" everyone, because it was getting ridiculous. Earth-2 Kryptonians were INSANELY powerful. And since there's no Earth-2 Kryptonite around, the only thing that's gonna hurt Power Girl is magic. So basically, if she wanted to, she could kick the Justice League's ass with one hand tied behind her back. She's faster than the flash, she's got the Earth-2 Kryptonian super-smarts that will allow her to build crazy robots and time machines and shit, and she's stronger--WAY, WAY STRONGER-- than the current continuity Superman. Same thing for the geezer Superman and Superboy Prime. I think it's kinda cool they brought them back, but if they do, then nobody should actually be a threat to them. I mean, old-man Superman could kick the crap out of Black Adam, Superman, and Captain Marvel combined. Easily. And if he didn't, well, he could just fly backwards in time and fight them again. So we'd better see Power Girl going pretty cuckoo-POWER Girl in IC.

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  • Nov 08, 2005 11:42:37 AM CST

    Hulk game, HoM art, Desolation Jones, DannyOcean01

    by the heathen

    Ultimate Destruction game has given me a problem like X-Men: Legends has. For both games (both 720p I believe) my widescreen HDTV won't show the picture unless I change my Xbox settings to turn off all forms of HD (480p, 720p, and 1080i) this is the only way I can get either of these games to play, but theie not in HD!!! And that was the whole point of having a gorram HDTV! And yes my TV supports 720p and 1080i. *** Vale! You love Coipels square heads! Nooo! The art has felt so boxy through this series, especially characters like Luke Cage, Wolverine, and Magneto. A lot of the action has been hard to follow imho as well. Still haven't read #8, but everyone knows what happened already. I may not even get to read IC #2 until this weekend. *** I know what you mean about Marvel and DC Shigeru. It was the same for me. But now, I'm anticipating IC #2 like a new movie or something. I also used to not like tomatoes, but now I love them things. BLT's anybody?!! *** Desolation Jones is my favorite comic out right now. JH Williams III is fantastic and Ellis likes this book, you can tell. Fell is good too. *** Danny, first off, your a little late buddy, second, if your tardy here, how can you be a good theif. Banks and such are hard things to steal from and I hope you haven't been slacking. I think Bug did give the comic to someone else after he read it. Maybe Schleppy? BTW, I hear your new movie is really good and I can't wait to see it.

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  • So you're saying you're cuckoo for Power Girl?

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  • Nov 08, 2005 12:05:24 PM CST

    Cuckoo for Power girl

    by mattb127

    Sort of. But is she or isn't she crazy powerful? Also, of course this means DC will kill her. Any takers? She'll be dead by May. Guranteed.

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  • Nov 08, 2005 12:15:55 PM CST

    Cuckoo for Cocoa Girls

    by the heathen

    And Latins, Asians, and Caucasians too. But about PG, a lot of people have a feeling that she may not make it, but wouldn't really suck? We just got her definitve origin. She could grow a lot during this event and maybe push more than daisies. I'm pretty sure we'll find out a lot this week, hopefully learn why her powers come and go. Btw, have we decided who blew up the Watchtower? A red cape, Martian Manhunter said Superman, but could it have been Power Girl? Who else could it be with a red cape? Lady C., any ideas?

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  • Nov 08, 2005 12:18:29 PM CST

    I think that's the whole point.

    by thalya

    She's in the midst of getting redefined. We'll find out as she does how powerful she really is.. Peege is too good and unique a strong-woman character for them to let go. If they're going back to a multiverse, don't be surprised if some very recently-dead characters (besides Jason Todd, Kara Zor-El, Jim Corrigan, etc..) start popping back up anyway.. The 'verses would need population, right? /// Completely aside from that, it makes me wonder if the alternate universe the Superbuddies visit in the last two issues of ICBINTJL weren't a CSA Earth but rather a 'dark earth' where the brought-back-to-life evil doubles reside and carry on (Sue Dibny, check, Max Lord, check, Booster (who should've died a few times over through his history), check, Ice, check, Metamorpho, check..). That world might be where the new JT, KZ-E, and JC came from: the first and last are apparently darker and Peege said she sensed a darkness in Kara.

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  • Nov 08, 2005 12:24:33 PM CST

    No idea, Heathen..

    by thalya

    Too many possibilities. Could've been Psycho Pirate for all we know.. And there are too many Supers to sort through at this point, though I think IC #1 precluded Kal-L or Earth Prime Superboy because they were watching the Mongul fight in the wreckage of the Watchtower.

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  • Nov 08, 2005 12:24:53 PM CST

    Red-Cape

    by mattb127

    My money's on Zod. If you're going to have a Crisis where anything can happen, I say bring back Zod! And not that armored dude who was in Worlds at War. I mean, Freakin' ZOD. Could be Bizarro, though. Or Superman from Earth 2, or Superboy Prime. Hell, it could even be Supergirl--the one that died in Crisis. All bets are off now that DC apparently wants to bring back all the Pre-Crisis stuff. And did I say guaranteed? I mean, GUARANTEED. Power Girl's DEAD. You can always tell when DC's about to kill one of their characters, because we suddenly start to see a lot more of them. That way, it SEEMS like a big death, because we care about them for about five minutes--when it's still just a death of a B-list character nobody cared about. Then all the crazy prices on back-issues of Power Girl will plummet back down to Earth. ($20 for the 1987 Power Girl mini-series? Are you kidding me?)

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  • Nov 08, 2005 1:04:42 PM CST

    Powir gurrl SUX!

    by el vale

    Yeah i like Coipel's square heads! I admit it. I have no problem with sqare heads, every artist has his/her quirks...Dillon has like 3 faces that he draws and i still love his artwork.***Glad to see the talkback has been revived, even though yer talkin' that there crazy DC speak...let's talk about women in comics. Who's your fav? Pretend i'm Warren Ellis...no superheroes allowed. My vote goes to Tulip O'Hare. Discuss.

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  • Nov 08, 2005 1:05:32 PM CST

    Red Cape mystery

    by the heathen

    Martian Manhunter said 'Superman' though. Like he felt his presence, or something familiar to him right? Also, didn't it say that someone had just teleported up to the Watchtower showing Supes logo? The Supergirl theory is a sound one, but which Supergirl? I don't think it's Psycho Pirate, whoever it is has to have some force. I don't think it's the Earth 2 Superman or Boy because they were still watching everything and they broke out to 'set things right' which also leads me to believe that it's not the Superman we know, because the Earth 2's would have taken our Superman going awol as the sign to breakout, or not

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  • Nov 08, 2005 1:12:13 PM CST

    Square heads and tiny ankles with zippers and pockets

    by the heathen

    No, not the square heads! Next you'll tell me Leifeld doesn't bother you too much! Coipel isn't Leifeld bad, but he has a way to go. He should start by not stretching out a 4:3 square ratio picture to 16x9 widescreen for phot reference! His settings are wrong on something. Magneto looked like that old wrestler Macho Man Randy Savage!!! "Bonesaw is reeeaaadddyyy!"

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  • Nov 08, 2005 1:13:01 PM CST

    Bizarro #2?

    by thalya

  • Nov 08, 2005 1:16:37 PM CST

    There was a Bizzaro #2?

    by the heathen

  • Nov 08, 2005 1:18:44 PM CST

    Earth-2 Bizarro?

    by thalya

  • Nov 08, 2005 1:27:23 PM CST

    Was there? Huh?

    by the heathen

  • Nov 08, 2005 1:27:52 PM CST

    Me not know.. *shrugs*

    by thalya

  • Nov 08, 2005 1:35:17 PM CST

    Me hate Bizzarro *ooh* pretty lights

    by the heathen

  • Nov 08, 2005 1:44:12 PM CST

    Oooh...pretty.. *thwap!*

    by thalya

  • Nov 08, 2005 2:26:24 PM CST

    Why no more lights?

    by the heathen

    Vaughn .K Brian is not going to be a continuous writer for Amazing Adventures of the Escapist ending with 8# issue.

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  • Nov 08, 2005 2:26:38 PM CST

    I am so sick

    by el vale

    I might die. You can tell i have a fever because i'm watching "Bring it on". Pray for me.

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  • Nov 08, 2005 2:40:24 PM CST

    Kirsten Dunst could bring...me...on...or something.

    by shigeru

    Yay for Mary Jane cheerleading. Red Cape = Supergirl that died in Crisis! Genius!

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  • Nov 08, 2005 2:51:53 PM CST

    Bring It On AGAIN

    by the heathen

    The sequel. I've only seen 2 minutes of it, but it was hilarious! A girls sitting on the bleachers, and then she slowly starts to clap, and then she starts to cheer in the stands. My girlfriend and I laughed for another few seconds then turned the channel. I've had a major cold the past few days, it sucks huh Vale? Feel better man. *** I like Dunst more than most, but she is never as pretty as she could (should) be in the Spidey movies. *** Maybe the Anti-Monitor survived and he brought back or held the thought dead Supergirl prisoner and has been training her as his ultimate protege? I said maybe.

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  • Nov 08, 2005 3:17:50 PM CST

    Hoppy the Marvel Bunny, maybe?

    by thalya

    Or Captain Carrot!?

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  • Nov 08, 2005 3:32:09 PM CST

    Tomorrow

    by shigeru

    IC #2, new Y the Last Man, AND new Walking Dead??? I ASPLODED FROM HAPPY.

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  • Nov 08, 2005 3:33:46 PM CST

    hope you feel better soon vale

    by darth kal-el

    im still not conversant enough in dc speak to venture a guess as to the mystery red cape.***heathen are u running component video cables from the xbox to the hdtv?

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  • Nov 08, 2005 3:37:40 PM CST

    class break...

    by blackthought

    um...sweet...infinite crisis talk...no clue who destroyed the watchtower...leaning towards moviemack though shigs got a good idea with the dead supergirl crisis one...or the return of the original harbinger? and i don't recall a bizarro e-2 and i just re-read crisis on infitite earths this month... i'm with heathen on coipel's art...if that's the next big thing...then count me out. jh williams III though, fantastic...dizame...is the word that pops in my head. let's see, bring it on has pom poms...and that's what guys are really interested in...pom poms...not the fleshy women to get them all hot and bothered...er...

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  • Nov 08, 2005 4:01:27 PM CST

    Darth re: Component cables

    by the heathen

    Yep. A set of Monster components from my TV to the Xbox and an Optic cable from my Xbox to main receiver for surround sound. It's only happened on those two games, which I think were both made by the same developers. That or Marvel's mad at me. : ( I love Astonishing, Runaways, and Supreme Power!!!

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  • Nov 08, 2005 4:19:08 PM CST

    i dont know what to tell ya buddy

    by darth kal-el

    i played both games alright on mine and i know i ran the hulk game at 720.has to be a setting on your xbox

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  • Nov 08, 2005 4:59:33 PM CST

    Maybe the xbox, but I think it may be my tv

    by the heathen

    I dunno? I got X-Men: Legends to be in 16x9, but not in HD. I even stumped the Microsoft guys when I gave them a call. I think the last one hung up on me too. Oh well, I'll live.

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  • Nov 08, 2005 6:08:02 PM CST

    the support guys for the xbox or xbox live

    by darth kal-el

    are by and large a bunch of dicks!i had an issue with my xbox live account charging me 4 times for the same renewal. needless to say this overdrew my account and i had fees from the bank. after much foot dragging they finally fixed it but would not credit me the fees i had incurred becaue of their error.i got a supervisor(read:team lead)on the line and he wouldnt budge on the fees.i told him i would stop being an xbox live customer(yea right) and he said "thats your choice.we cant have our customers hold us hostage like what your trying to do" so yeah they are dicks

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  • Nov 08, 2005 10:14:33 PM CST

    That's nice

    by el vale

    You know, the way everyone ignored the question i made? Cool.

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  • Nov 08, 2005 10:40:19 PM CST

    sorry vale

    by darth kal-el

    i wanted to post to make sure u were ok but i forgot the question.about tulip oohare u mean?

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  • Nov 09, 2005 12:06:52 AM CST

    i am so sick.....

    by blackthought

  • Nov 09, 2005 12:24:39 AM CST

    I know it's kinda pervy, but...

    by dave_f

    ...my response to Vale's question is Thorn from BONE. She's like one of those Disney heroines, all sweet and smart and uber-cute. Well, up until she went grim 'n' gritty in the last few volumes of BONE - that undercuts the appeal a touch. The big question of course, is "How old is she?" Always figured her to be in the neighborhood of 16. In other words, not even "barely legal"...

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  • Nov 09, 2005 12:33:52 AM CST

    I'm sick too, Blackthought.

    by dave_f

    Would it've killed you to not put your tongue in my mouth, you leper?

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  • Nov 09, 2005 12:49:52 AM CST

    Mo' comic babes...

    by dave_f

    How 'bout that Leetah from ELFQUEST, eh? Hoo-doggy! And it's the tail-end of the TalkBack, so I'm gonna indulge in a rare moment of political incorrectness and say...seeing her was the first time I ever caught jungle fever. S'true. And seriously, the Pinis rock for bustin' down racial boundaries. ***** Hannah from XENOZOIC TALES? Most definitely, though she was kind of intimidating too. Which is to say: eerily like real gals. ***** Final pick: the hot witch that used to vex Groo alongside the old crone-lookin' witch. She's the one on the right here: http://tinyurl.com/7dnm8 And yes, it's purely physical lust of the most juvenile sort. Makes me wish I was a little Sergio Aragones-drawn character so I could chase after her in GROO-land. I'd probably end up killed by Groo, though.

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  • Nov 09, 2005 1:47:16 AM CST

    im thankfully not sick

    by darth kal-el

    does this mean im going to have to stay away from this contagious ass talkback?not a chance! im here with you guys through thick and thin. now that the question has been further clarified i will also throw in my vote for tulip ohare. some of those love scenes with her and jessee where truly wankable. also,im going with deena pilgrim.yes i know she has powers now but she didnt when she first came out.i can see what dave says about being groo-ified to romp through groo land with her. deena makes me wish i was oeming-ized and thrown into a drainer powered detention cell

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  • Nov 09, 2005 2:29:55 AM CST

    Deena? Tulip? They got the black lung, I tells ya!

    by dave_f

    Yeah, the smoking thing. Just a big turn-off for me. Not to mention the fact that I've never read PREACHER past the first volume and POWERS lost me a few years ago. But even so...I like my fantasy women without the nicotine. Except for Starbuck on BATTLESTAR GALACTICA -- somehow she's butch enough that it works. But as for Black Canary... http://tinyurl.com/9vea9 Frank! Baby! What the hell ya doin'?!

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  • Nov 09, 2005 2:32:14 AM CST

    You realize that if you were Oeming-ized...

    by dave_f

    You'd also be Bendis-ized. Your foreplay would consist of about 18 hours of you being interrogated under that green light. Then you'd get a few lurid pages of sex from the twisted mind of Oeming - yes, you'd get the payoff! - to be followed shortly by your gory death when some supervillain busts into Deena's place looking for payback. Y'know how Oeming also likes to draw gory scenes? Yeah, you'd get to be in one of those too.

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  • Nov 09, 2005 8:25:21 AM CST

    No superheroes allowed?

    by shigeru

    That's a tough one. I was gonna say Jenny Sparks (or I guess her corpse, now...) but I guess she doesn't count. Hmm, Strangers in Paradise girls? No, not unless you're into lesbians with baggage. *** Dave, the second Preacher trade is SO much better than the first. That's as far as I've read but I imagine it only gets better. Oh and I think smoking is despicable, too.

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  • Nov 09, 2005 9:05:02 AM CST

    next time...

    by blackthought

    i won't let my tongue slip...and whut bout monica belluci? whut you mean she has nothing to do with comics and that she is a superhero...well...mmmmmmm...excuse me...

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  • Nov 09, 2005 9:39:18 AM CST

    'Boneyard' vampire chick is pretty cute

    by the heathen

    http://tinyurl.com/bcw7b *** http://tinyurl.com/953uq *** I think her name is Abbey, but I like her characterization and the way Richard Moore draws her facial expressions are epecially good. There, happy Vale? Now go take your medicine. : ) Kal-El, I'm kinda going through the same thing you mentioned above. So did you ever get the overdraft fees taken off? Does the one time courtesy waive not work for that. Just wanted to know, cause I was about to try and use that one later today. ; |

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  • Nov 09, 2005 10:56:04 AM CST

    Heathen I have a solution for your Xbox woes...

    by shigeru

    Throw the thing out the window and realize that only jocks and frat boys buy Xbox, and then only just for Halo. Ooh, I kid, I kid!

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  • Nov 09, 2005 11:30:23 AM CST

    But it would kill somebody Shigeru!

    by the heathen

    I'm neither jock nor frat boy, but I am a Halo junkie. Btw, it's been exactly a year since Halo 2 came out. Good times, great memories, and the Master Chief display is mine!!! Hey Shigeru, you're a Nintendo fanboy no? Ooh, I kid as well : ) Go Goldeneye and Shadows of the Empire! Seriously though, that Revolution controller is either brillaint or I'm going to be playing Mario on an Xbox in the next few years.

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  • Nov 09, 2005 12:19:00 PM CST

    That thing is big enough to crack the pavement, at least.

    by shigeru

    And actually yeah I guess I would fall under "Nintendo Fanboy". If I had enough cash I would own all the systems but I kinda feel loyal to the Mario and Zelda crew. That Revolution stuff is gonna be huge or fail miserably...or most likely sell moderately well but not match Xbox or Sony. Kinda ironic that I see the most use for the "remote controller" for first person shooters, considering that isn't really Nintendo's bag. Time will tell.

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  • Nov 09, 2005 1:02:56 PM CST

    This one's for Dave F:

    by shigeru

    http://www.icv2.com/articles/home/7782.html Another step to domination!

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  • Nov 09, 2005 1:48:18 PM CST

    Yes i'm happy now

    by el vale

    And less sick. Gonna have to second the vote for Deena. I didn't really mean "fav comic book girl" as in the one you'd really like to fuck, i mean "Jesus christ this is such an amazing character! And she's purdy". Deena's great, one of the most entertaining female characters i've come across. And Tulip is Jesse's girl, i wouldn't try anything. She has great boobs tho'. Jenny Sparks counts, i guess, because i love Authority.

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  • Nov 09, 2005 1:49:09 PM CST

    Hey..

    by thalya

    I posted a longer article on the same thing.. *points up*

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  • Nov 09, 2005 1:51:27 PM CST

    Dave

    by el vale

    So you read the first Preacher trade and think "Hmm that was good" Then you read the second one and it blows you away it's so compelling. Then you read the third one, Proud americans, and you realize Preacher could be the best thing ever. Smooth sailing from there my friend. At least that's the way it was with me.

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  • Nov 09, 2005 2:12:58 PM CST

    oops

    by shigeru

    Sorry Thalya. All props to Thalya, I am just a dirty copycat!

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  • Nov 09, 2005 2:24:57 PM CST

    well said vale

    by darth kal-el

    im glad your better man.***heathen the one time courtesy waive works on almost every single call center except the microsoft support for xbox live. as if that bastard gates wasnt rich enough already they wont even waive a 5.99 monthly live fee charged because i forgot to cancel my subscription!****dave i think i wouldnt mind the brutal gory death for a little time with deena. altho if i was bendizised all my friends would avoid me for being an overtalking bastard!****shigeru i love halo and xbox but i can see what u mean about the "frat boy" image the xbox has. in a way its cool because chicks totally understand and dont think its that geeky.i dare say halo and video games have become the rough equivalent of someone who watches sports.am i right? please dont take away my faux coolness for being a halo player!

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  • Nov 09, 2005 2:26:49 PM CST

    definite thalya props

    by darth kal-el

    and yes shigeru there is something vaguely dirty about u...didnt u poop on someone who had thrown themselves in a volcano once? u dirty bastard!

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  • Nov 09, 2005 2:33:06 PM CST

    hahahha

    by shigeru

    yeah I think I did poo in a volcano once. someone threw themselves in and then I did the duece! who was that?? Blackthought maybe?

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  • Nov 09, 2005 2:33:57 PM CST

    new column's up!

    by shigeru

    Truly we are ALL-WEEK!

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  • Nov 09, 2005 2:39:07 PM CST

    i think it was blackthought

    by darth kal-el

    all i know is it kept me rolling the whole day!and it was over a first battle! good stuff

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  • Nov 09, 2005 2:40:12 PM CST

    we are truly all week

    by darth kal-el

    and we are mighty!

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  • Nov 09, 2005 3:10:05 PM CST

    I remember that when I was writing that,

    by shigeru

    I could barely keep myself from actually cackling out loud at my desk.

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  • Nov 09, 2005 3:27:04 PM CST

    it was I

    by gus nukem

    Bastard! You had managed to post first, a little ahead of me.

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  • Nov 09, 2005 3:31:18 PM CST

    oh okay sorry Gus

    by shigeru

    Better luck next time. In the meantime, smooch my cog mwahahaha!

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  • Nov 09, 2005 3:41:13 PM CST

    Evil runs afoul in this part of AICN

    by gus nukem

    As for Vale's question, I dunno - Tulip seems the obvious answer. Non superhero, huh? Catwoman... - kiddin'. Virginia from Stray Bullets? Afraid I haven't been reading many ongoing non-superhero titles. That, or I 've come across nothing memorable heroine-wise. Plus, hereby I declare a partial abstinence from reading and posting in talkbacks, until I get my hands on IC #2 and All-Star Superman.

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  • Nov 09, 2005 3:51:40 PM CST

    sort of...

    by gus nukem

    I can't understand how you guys didn't care for comic book history in the making such as this: tinyurl.com/c4np9 . What a bunch of insensitive bastards!

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  • Nov 09, 2005 4:16:58 PM CST

    no subject

    by gus nukem

    Brian K. Vaughan has been an escape artist. As has Jim Steranko - on whom Jack Kirby loosely based Mister Miracle. Awesome. Speaking of Vaughan, the heroines of Y have a better chance to be memorable than of other titles. LOL, right?

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  • She's like the perfect woman. Sorry i broke my own rule.***It's funny that the one male character in Y steals the show. Yorick is a much better character than any of the women. I gues Dr Mann is ok. Know who was great tho? That blonde Russian girl...but it had a lot to do with her charming english. If i ever meet a blonde Russian girl who speaks like that, i'll ask her to marry me.

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  • Nov 09, 2005 7:53:11 PM CST

    i'm with you there

    by blackthought

    on brubaker's selina vale...and who pooped on who now?

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  • Nov 16, 2005 5:24:23 PM CST

    I...

    by gus nukem

    defecate on all parties who may try to post last. (I am excluded by definition) LAST!

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  • Nov 16, 2005 8:04:33 PM CST

    no...you only included yourself...

    by blackthought

    LAST! buddy

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  • Nov 18, 2005 3:31:23 PM CST

    no problem with that

    by gus nukem

    since I am last! *** PS Lately I had mentioned being able to choose one TPB between Top Ten #1, Animal Man #2, and JLA #5 (Morrison's penultimate (sounds familiar, doesn't it? ha ha!) JLA collection. At the store I came across an Age of Bronze #1, which looked excellent. In the end I picked a Lone Wolf and Cub #4 - I 'll be darned if this isn't the best comic book series ever.

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  • Nov 18, 2005 4:10:11 PM CST

    where in greece do you shop?

    by blackthought

    and LAST!

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