The Last STAR TREK Ever!!
Ah, sweet continuity porn!!
Star Trek Enterprise: The Complete Fourth Season, streeting today, was the last season of “Star Trek” ever produced, and brought to screen much continuity porn for the hardcore fans of the 40-year-old franchise. It revisited the Eugenics Wars that spawned Khan and “Space Seed,” the Vulcan leader T’Pau (whom we first met as a snippy crone in “Amok Time”), the Orion slave girls first glimpsed in “The Menagerie,” the Romulan Wars first mentioned in “Balance of Terror,” and the “Mirror Mirror” universe. We also finally visited the Andorians’ home planet, discovered the origins of The Federation’s dreaded black-ops division, and learned at long last why the Klingons of Kirk’s era looked like unshaven Earthers.
The season also contained at least one must-see episode: "The Forge," the first episode penned by longtime “Star Trek” novelists Judith and Garfield Reeves-Stevens. It tied 40 years of “Star Trek” lore into one very elegant and entertaining hour.
(The two mirror-universe episodes seemed pretty good too, but my mind might be clouded by the torso-exposing uniforms Hoshi and T’Pol sported through much of the saga.)
* Deleted scenes from 4.1 (“Storm Front, Part 1”), 4.14 (“The Aenar”) and 4.19 (“In A Mirror Darkly, Part 2”);
* Text commentary by Michael & Denise Okuda on 4.7 (“The Forge”), 4.19 (“In A Mirror Darkly, Part 2”) and 4.22 (“These Are The Voyages”);
* Audio commentary by writer Mike Sussman and startrek.com’s Tim Gaskill on 4.18 (“In A Mirror Darkly, Part 1”) and 4.19 (“In A Mirror Darkly, Part 2”);
* Audio commentary by Gaskill and writers Judith and Garfield Reeves-Stevens on 4.21 (“Terra Prime”).
* Documentary “Enterprise Moments: Season 4” (16:23) examines how the resolution of the season-three cliffhanger was not devised at the conclusion of season three; how the season gave us our first extended look at Vulcan; Brent Spiner’s return as Data’s human ancestor; the season’s two endings, one of which was intended to end the series, the other of which (starring Jonathan Frakes and Marina Sirtis) was intended to cap the entire “Star Trek” franchise.
* Documentary “Inside The ‘Mirror’ Episodes” (15:41) explores the decision to keep the regular “Enterprise” characters out of the “Mirror” episodes, why the Gorn found its way into the episodes, how spreading the story across two episodes allowed producers to recreate so many of the original Constitution-class “Star Trek” sets, and concerns that the recreated 1960s sets might look too cheesy.
* Documentary “Enterprise Secrets” (5:52) looks at how the series’ writers and other behind-the-scenes personnel played extras in the series’ final scene.
* Documentary “Visual Effects Magic” (13:25) looks at painstaking computer-generated efforts to create 1942 Manhattan for “Storm Front Part 2,” the Xindi insectoids and acquatics for season three, the Tholian for “In A Mirror Darkly,” the NX-02, and the Xindi superweapon from season three’s “Zero Hour.”
* Documentary “That’s a Wrap” (8:59) includes footage from the series’ final farewell party at the Hollywood Roosevelt, including brief interviews with the show’s cast, crew, and guest stars Jeffrey Combs and Peter Weller.
* Documentary “Links to the Legacy” (4:25) looks at the introduction into “Enterprise” of the human-looking Klingons, the Vulcan sehlat, the Surak’s IDIC, Andor, Andoria and Section 31.
* Documentary “Enterprise Outtakes” (2:16) is the highly entertaining season-four blooper reel.
* “Photo Gallery” features lots of stills depicting actors in unusual clothing and/or alien makeup.
* “Borg Invasion Trailer” (0:32) offers a glimpse of the Las Vegas Hilton attraction.
Herc’s original episode reviews:
4.1 Storm Front Part 1
4.2 Storm Front Part 2
4.5 Cold Station 12
4.6 The Augments
4.7 The Forge
4.14 The Aenar
4.22 These Are The Voyages …
TV on DVD!
American Gothic: The Complete Series
The Beverly Hillbillies/Petticoat Junction Christmas Collection
Danger Mouse 3.x/4.x
Degrassi Junior High: The Complete Series
The Doris Day Show 2.x
Hamish MacBeth 1.x
Harts of the West: The Complete Series
Hart To Hart 1.x
Little House on the Prairie 9.x
In Living Color 4.x
Invasion Earth: The Complete Series
Kids in the Hall 3.x
Little House on the Prairie 9.x
Looney Tunes: Golden Collection Vol. 3
The L Word 2.x
Mad TV: Best of 8/9/10.x
The Munsters 2.x
The Planet's Funniest Animals
Point Pleasant 1.x
Puppets Who Kill 2.x
Tales From The Crypt 2.x
3rd Rock From the Sun 2.x
Tom & Jerry Vol. 2
Tripping the Rift 1.x
Upstairs Downstairs 24-Disc Collector's Edition
The Adventures of Pete & Pete 2.x
Alvin: A Chipmonk Christmas
American Chopper 3.x
Backstairs at the White House
The Brady Bunch 4.x
Cheaters: Best of Vol. 1
Cheaters: Best Of Vol. 1 - Uncensored!
Dick Cavett: John & Yoko
Disney Channel Holiday
Hearts Afire 2.x
Just For Laughs: Gags Vol. 1
Just For Laughs: Stand-Up Vol. 1
Monster Garage 3.x
Outer Limits (1999) 1.x
Sex and the City: Collector's Edition
Star Trek Enterprise 4.x
Star Trek Enterprise: The 27-Disc Complete Series
Tales of Tomorrow Vol. 2
21 Jump Street 4.x
Ultimate Fighter 1.x
War of the Worlds 1.x
World Poker Tour 3.x
Beavis & Butt-Head: The Mike Judge Collection Vol. 1
Blue Collar TV 1.x Vol. 1
Chip & Dale Vol. 1
A Different World 1.x
Doctor Who: City of Death
Doctor Who: Claws of Axos
DuckTales Vol. 1
Five Mile Creek 1.x
Jay and Silent Bob Do DeGrassi
Jeopardy! An Inside Look
The Kumars at Number 42
Mutant X 3.x <--- NEW!!
Mystery Science Theatre 3000 Vol. 8
The Partridge Family 2.x
Pioneers of Primetime
Popular Mechanics For Kids
Remington Steele 2.x
Space: Above and Beyond - The Complete Series ($34.99 edition)
Swiss Family Robinson: The Complete Series
Tales From Avonlea 1.x
What's New Scooby Doo Vol. 7
The White Shadow 1.x
Andromeda 5.x Vol. 2
Beast Machines Transformers: The Complete Series
Blue Murder: The Complete Miniseries
The Captain & Tennille: Ultimate Collection
Buffy the Vampire Slayer: 40-Disc Collector's Set
Fantasy Island 1.x
The Flintstones 4.x
Friends: The One With All Ten Seasons (Less than $1 per episode!)
Golden Girls: Lifetime Intimate Portrait
Home Movies 3.x
Huckleberry Hound Vol. 1
The Johnny Cash Show Collection
King Kong: The Animated Series
King Kong: The Animated Series Vol. 1 ($9.09)
King Kong: The Animated Series Vol. 2 ($9.09)
The Man Show 4.x
Murder One 2.x
Oprah 20th Anniversary
P. Diddy and the Bad Boys of Comedy
Stargate Atlantis 1.x
That '70s Show 3.x
Three's Company 5.x
Tru Calling 2.x
The Yogi Bear Show: The Complete Series
Aeon Flux: The Complete Animated Collection
American Idol: Best Of 1.x-4.x
American Idol: Worst Of 1.x-4.x
American Idol: Best & Worst Of 1.x-4.x
The Andy Griffith Show 4.x
Astro Boy: Collection Box Set
Batman Vs. Dracula Gift Set
CSI Miami 3.x
Dark Shadows: Vol. 21
Extreme Makeover: Home Edition 1.x
Golden Girls 3.x
Home Improvement 3.x
King of the Hill 5.x
Leave It To Beaver 1.x
Life in the Freezer
Naked City: Set 2
Seinfeld 5.x/6.x Puffy Shirt Set
Tracey Takes On 1.x
X-Files: Super Soldier
Criss Angel: Mindfreak
CSI Five-Season Pack
Empire: The Miniseries
Family Guy Vol. 3
Hi Hi Puffy AmiYumi: Let's Go
Hi Hi Puffy AmiYumi: Rock Forever
Mission Hill: The Complete Series
Project Runway 1.x
Timeslip: The Complete Series
The Tomorrow People: Set 2
Aqua Teen Hunger Force Vol. 4
Batman: The Animated Series Vol. 4
Clone Wars Vol. 2
Combat: The Complete Series <--- NEW!!
Elfego Baca and The Swamp Fox
Everybody Loves Raymond 5.x
Footballers' Wives 2.x
Full House 2.x
Garfield Vol. 5
Gargoyles 2.x Vol. 1
Share on Facebook
Share on Twitter
Readers Talkbackcomments powered by Disqus
+ Expand All
Nov. 1, 2005, 12:32 a.m. CST
by The Shyster
And Avatar too, me so happy.
Nov. 1, 2005, 12:37 a.m. CST
Smeg off Chikliss!
Nov. 1, 2005, 12:52 a.m. CST
Where's the re-watchibility factor? Isn't that fuckin fad dead yet? Oh, and Nighty-Night is utter garbage. A British Curb? Sure, if Curb was shite, but it's not.
Nov. 1, 2005, 12:52 a.m. CST
Even if he isn't in Enterprise. Or maybe he was. I don't know. I didn't track the fucking show. To boldly own your ass!
Nov. 1, 2005, 12:55 a.m. CST
because the rest of the show was horseshit. Except for the TNG themed last episode.
Nov. 1, 2005, 1:25 a.m. CST
That show is brilliant. If you haven't seen it and like comedy, be sure to rent/buy the dvd.
Nov. 1, 2005, 2:11 a.m. CST
wtf is that pic above, half of galactica season 2? good grief...
Nov. 1, 2005, 2:51 a.m. CST
And find someone with both talent AND an appreciation for Star Trek to lead the franchise. No more shitty B&B shows or movies. The best thing that could happen would be for Paramount to sell the rights to another studio, though, because they're just as much to blame for Trek's decline.
Nov. 1, 2005, 4:39 a.m. CST
This part should read: "the season
Nov. 1, 2005, 6:25 a.m. CST
Keep up the great work, it's really helpful!
Nov. 1, 2005, 8:30 a.m. CST
And yet creams themselves over Battlestar Galactica. If anything, BG proves that a show can be updated and rethought and returned to being a hot property. Trek WILL be back.
Nov. 1, 2005, 8:34 a.m. CST
I saw the whole series last month, I thought it was dvd rips.. I can undestand why the star trek geeks were so mad at it.. the first season was very enjoyable, then it just slowly turned into shit. And they managed to piss me off with the ending in a completely different level than the strar trek geeks (to me it was all about the enterprise storyline, since I hadn't seen all the other series, I had no idea who all those old fat people in spandex were).
Nov. 1, 2005, 9:12 a.m. CST
by Master Planner
where Captain Sulu and a descendant of Jerry Penacolli find a whole new use for tribbles?
Nov. 1, 2005, 9:27 a.m. CST
by Hugh Jass
Star Trek should stay dead. Berman and Braga milked every last drop of creativity and fun out of the series and left a dead husk. I loved TNG and even occasionally loved DS9. Voyager was a fucking abortion from Day 1. Star Trek should have been killed off after the first season of Voyager because every episode was basically the Paramount execs pissing in the face of the fans and telling them to say "thank you" for it. Enterprise was better than Voyager with its Katherine Hepburn wannabe captain and crew of assholes (except for the big titted Borg), but by then the magic was gone. The end of Enterprise was the final insult to me. Bringing back an obese Riker and Troi and turning it into a terrible TNG episode was basically Berman and Braga telling all Star Trek fans that they didn't give a fuck what anyone thought, and they were going to do their best to fuck up what remained of Star Trek. Those two cocksuckers basically took a great show and ran it into the ground, knowing what the fan base thought and just not caring.
Nov. 1, 2005, 9:37 a.m. CST
You're like a guy who swallowed a bad oyster and swears never to touch seafood again.
Nov. 1, 2005, 9:42 a.m. CST
His grandmother bought him seasons two and three of the classic Star Trek series, which as far as I know is still like $106 appeice, he didn't wan't them, so he sold them both to me, unopened, for $40!!! Now I gotta figure out how I'm gonna get season one, cause I'm sure as hell ain't payin retail for it!
Nov. 1, 2005, 10:06 a.m. CST
Just saw Season 3 on Dvd looks great and is a pretty exciting arc (the xindi). damn thing looks and sounds sweet on dvd and i never thought id say this but Jonathan Archer is the most kick ass starfleet captain since Kirk - Bakula does a great job.
Nov. 1, 2005, 10:07 a.m. CST
if anyone can revive the franchise its nick meyer
Nov. 1, 2005, 10:13 a.m. CST
Don't post here very often... Get a laugh out of reading the flame wars... Batman Begins was cool... Not interested in that Buffy Collectors Set/whatever, Herc... Serenity kicked but... Episode III still does NOT own my ass... Yeah, the Enterprise series finale sucked... I HEAR the 3rd/4th seasons were good, but I remain *skepticle* at this point (seen too much mediocre Trek)... whatever. Anyway, my subject line pretty much sums up.
Nov. 1, 2005, 10:31 a.m. CST
It's all in the sentence structure.
Nov. 1, 2005, 12:14 p.m. CST
And this one hurts. DS9 producer Michael Piller is dead of cancer at age 57. It can honestly be said oversaw the linal shining hours of televised Trek. How about an obit, Herc?
Nov. 1, 2005, 12:48 p.m. CST
Tom is totally PUNK ROCK. Can't wait to get this one. Gotta get the Captain & Tennille show and The Electric Company also. So much quality TV viewing... so little time... and rumors of Star Trek's death are greatly exagerrated. It is Paramount's golden goose and they are just giving it a much-needed rest. Simpsons Season 7 is the one where Bart Sells His Soul (and Moe converts the bar into a family-theme restaurant - one of the top five all time best episodes easily) AND... the one where Homer intentionally gains weight to draw workers' disability. Hopefully the DVD will restore the part that's been cut from syndication, where Homer is sitting on a stool in the basement staring at the dryer - Lisa shouts down the stairs, "What are you doing dad??" Homer replies, "Watching my fat guy hat, honey!" Priceless.
Nov. 1, 2005, 1:28 p.m. CST
by Big Bad Clone
Really? The presmise on DS9 sort of sucks. A space station that was made by meatphorical Jews and formerly run by metaphorical Nazis near a wormhole that talked to a bald black single father Commander. The series dealt with terrorists, greedy butt headed aliens, and jelly aliens bent on galactic conquest. So why did it work when Voyager failed. Voyager was set in uncharted, hostile space with a ship on a desperate mission to get back home. They had Borg AND a serial killer and it still blew ass. Seriously, they had a chance to grab that crazy TOS energy and run with it but instead we get a lot of bartering, boring Borg, and Amelia Earhart (and the illogical bit about Voyager's landing gear). And Enterprisew should have been all sorts of bad ass shit. But the more they tried to fix it the worse it got (ex. the opening song) and when it final seems to get on course to at least be entertaining, it gets canceled so UPN can have a rerun of America's Next Top Model every week. And don't just blame this on B&B because they weren't really involved in Nemesis and that was as shitty as a night following a mexican buffet.
Nov. 1, 2005, 1:48 p.m. CST
The only person that can salvage this venerable dinosaur is J.M. Straczinski. Nuff said.
Nov. 1, 2005, 2:16 p.m. CST
by Mockingbird Girl
Are you high, or simply naive?
Nov. 1, 2005, 2:39 p.m. CST
by Sir Loin
A true classic. Pizza-faced astronaut, bikinis, and a guy making telephone ringing sounds with his mouth. You just can't beat that, especially with old-school MST3K Joel & the bots. SOLID GOLD.
Nov. 1, 2005, 2:46 p.m. CST
Wow. That's too bad. Loved his Trek stuff. Loved Dead Zone.
Nov. 1, 2005, 3:20 p.m. CST
Although I'm also curious about this Nicholas Meyer rumour mentioned above? Having JMS and Meyer work together on a Star Trek project would be nice, although I'n not sure their egos would allow for it.... As for why VOY and ENT "sucked", I think the problem actually goes back to TNG. The success of that show guaranteed two things: first, that there would be plenty of up-and-coming new genre shows trying to outdo Trek, creatively/critically if not financially... and second, that TNG would become the *formula* for any spin-off series whenever the franchise at large was perceived to be on shaky ground. VOY and ENT both felt like a continuation of TNG in its lacluster final seasons: they inherited the low-key photography, the ponderous Dennis McCrathy-esque music (DS9 unfortunately had that too), the general episodic nature Trek, heavy handed politically-correct moral messages that were often inconsistent from episode to episode (somehow I don't think anybody in the post-Roddenberry years was keeping a tote board of when the Prime Directive did or didn't apply), bland characters, excessive technobabble and psuedo-science(which I don't remember being that much a problem during the Roddenberry years of TNG) for the purpose of constructing superficial plots... you get the picture... Also, most of the better writers of TNG had already moved over to DS9, leaving VOY (and the final season of TNG) with mostly leftovers. If VOY/ENT were TNG Ressurrected, than DS9 was TNG Unleashed. It centered more around the politics of Trek (which was for many fans the coolest part) and introduced a level of moral ambiguity previously lacking from the franchise. The "ensamble cast" TNG often bragged about truly was in this case. And the show was damn funny at times, in a way ST hadn't been since the 1st season of TOS. The serialized nature of latter seasons didn't hurt either (although I think at the time there was a general reaction of "meh" from those of us who were already impressed by B5, it wouldn't be ST if it went all the places B5 did). DS9 was the most mature, original and militaristically realistic version of Trek we ever got... it's unfortunante none of that carried over into VOY or ENT.
Nov. 1, 2005, 4:35 p.m. CST
were too busy urinating on Roddenberry's grave and fornicating with his corpse to pay any attention to the crap they were spewing out for this one. Good riddance. Sadly, the nightmare lives on through the DVDs.
Nov. 1, 2005, 4:38 p.m. CST
That is all.
Nov. 1, 2005, 4:40 p.m. CST
I hate you all. Seriously. Trek will return. Assholes.
Nov. 1, 2005, 4:56 p.m. CST
Nov. 1, 2005, 5:06 p.m. CST
He'd out draw the guys and then make sweet Browncoat love to Janeway in a vat of whiskey, ruining her for tattoo head and any other man.
Nov. 1, 2005, 7:26 p.m. CST
Your pitiful show will be all but forgotten in a year - tops. TREK will still be a pop culture phenomenon 50 years from now. Very few names survive the test of time. Kirk will be one of them.
Nov. 1, 2005, 8:33 p.m. CST
See for yourself, scene for scene. The truth will own your ass!!!
Nov. 1, 2005, 9:56 p.m. CST
Not THIS again. Your mantra has grown tiresome.
Nov. 1, 2005, 10:18 p.m. CST
Good to see that the Red Dwarf DVD releases continue at glacial speed. Perhaps they'll release Series VIII before I turn 90.
Nov. 1, 2005, 11:07 p.m. CST
by Captain Sulu
I didn't think it was possible for a series to get worse than Voyager, but I was proven wrong.
Nov. 2, 2005, 12:35 a.m. CST
it was a typo
Nov. 2, 2005, 7:16 a.m. CST
This coming from an expert on the subject of said ball sucking.
Nov. 2, 2005, 11:04 a.m. CST
by Citizen Arcane
And I did like Serenity but the clumsy, hamhanded way that it tried to shoehorn the western into the sci-fi was distracting to say the least. As for Trek, despite Berman's efforts to destroy the franchise, it'll come back, someday. The entire thing could have been a lot different if instead of the 9th film they did a DS9/TNG Dominion war movie. That would have introduced the DS9 cast and given the audience a dramtic action film instead of whatever the hell Insurrection was about.
Nov. 2, 2005, 3:33 p.m. CST
by Neo Zeed
Note to ST producers: Just cause Voyager sucked, doesn't mean it's time to go back in the past. Even the creators got bored with it after a awhile. Point proven by Enterprise having Spiner, Frakes, and Sirtis back as cheap ratings boosters. Note to ST producers: Next time don't set a show before guest stars' characters were born. Go forward, not backward.
Nov. 2, 2005, 3:54 p.m. CST
Both were excellent, and both were cut down brutally. But I still have faith... of the heart.
Nov. 2, 2005, 4:16 p.m. CST
by Mutant Leader
Man. . they BETTER change their minds and put General Vishishnou on the cover or there WILL be mayhem in the streets!! "MOLLUSK!!"
Nov. 2, 2005, 5:17 p.m. CST
WTF. I see Swiss Family Robinson and Fantasy Island, but where in the phuck is are Season 3 and later of Mad About You? What is the holdup?
Nov. 2, 2005, 9:14 p.m. CST
by Captain Sulu
We're doing an Aquaf@g role call, if you should be reporting, you know who you are.
Nov. 3, 2005, 7:23 a.m. CST
by Voice O. Reason
Just accept it.
Nov. 3, 2005, 11:33 a.m. CST
I have accepted it.
Nov. 3, 2005, 11:46 a.m. CST
I think the main problem with Trek is that the creative producers just did not give a damn about making good TV, but turned out Trek episodes much the same way sausages are cranked out, one after another. Just formulaic and uninspired junk. I stopped watching Trek during Voyager, because it was apparent that the people in charge of the show did not give two flips about the material or the fans. *****Whenever Trek has been good is when the creative talent at the top (the producers) actually have feeling for the show, the characters, and for science-fiction and human drama. It became apparent during Voyager that Trek was just a commodity to the producers, not something vital or worthwhile in itself. Trek became creatively dead. *****Some people have blamed the writers or the cast, but I think that is a mistake. The cast of Voyager was fine. They were not given anything worthwhile to work with. Furthermore, I think that the writers were hobbled by the showrunners. There was no sense of developing continuity, thematic or dramatic coherency, and logical and interesting character development. This was the result of a top-down approach which discouraged the talents of the writers and wasted the talents of the actors. And, it was an essential misread of the fans of the show. Voyager was not allowed to develop continuity, coherence, and logic because each show was intended to be "self-contained" for casual viewers and for syndication. The producers were creating the shows to be generic, so that they could be shown, out of order, in syndication.***** Coherency, continuity, and character development, all require a cumulative effect over time in a dramatic TV series, and are, in fact, marks of quality. The producers were unconcerned about these elements, and it was lethal to the quality of the show. Firstly, Star Trek fans generally LOVE good continuity. Secondly, any discerning viewer of ANY kind of drama, action, or science-fiction will like thematic coherence and good character development. The producers assumed that the Trek fanbase was uncritical and dumb, and would swallow any tripe that they produced. So, we had no smart character development, no continuity, no dramatic coherency. This killed the potential of the series. This was (and is) an insult to any intelligent viewer, and it crippled the shows writers and cast, many of whom were (and are) talented people whose abilities were wasted on a show that was a creative debacle. It was apparent to anyone who read about the behind the scenes of the show that the atmosphere on Voyager was an unhappy one, and the the show was essentially a creative dead-end. This was the fault of the showrunners who created that atmosphere, not the writers or the actors trapped in a bad situation. There was absoluteley no esprit-de-corps because the people in charge did not give a darn about good TV drama or good Star Trek, and that permeated the whole show. If the people in charge really cared, and respected at least part of their audience, the writers and actors would have had the chance to pick up the ball and run with it. But there really was no ball to pick up. The producers were just going through the motions and producing shows that were generally insulting to the viewers. I stopped watching. *****I consider myself a Star Trek fan, and I have never seen one episode of Enterprise. I took enough abuse watching Voyager. I kept giving the show a chance in the hopes that it would improve, but eventually concluded that it was beyond repair. I decided that I would not watch any new Star Trek show until there are new producers who have some sort of respect for the material and its fans, as well as for the creative people involved in the show, from cast to crew and the writers. *****The producers assumed (incorrectly) that all Star Trek fans were uncritical goons who would eat up anything they produced, however bad the stuff was creatively, just becasue it had the words "Star Trek" on it. They were wrong. While it is true that there are some fans who will endure endless assaults of bad TV in the hopes that Trek will somehow miraculously get better (somewhat like how some battered women will remain in abusive relationships because they "love" their abuser), many Trek fans simply stopped watching junk. Star Trek is pop entertainment, but at its best, it is GOOD pop entertainment, and good science-fiction. What the producers and the Paramount execs need to know is that Trek fans do not fit just one type or demographic. Yes, there are some die-hard fans who will watch endlessly no matter how bad the shows are, BUT there are also many fans who will say "enough is enough" and who will not watch bad TV just because it has "Star Trek" in the title.****It is particularly sad to hear of the death of Michael Piller, because he was a writer, producer, and show-runner who obviously cared genuinely about creating good TV and good Star Trek. Piller was just the sort of guy that Paramount should have tapped to create new Star Trek. Hopefully, they will honor good guys like Piller by choosing new showrunners for Trek who are BOTH talented writer-producers that care about Star Trek as uplifting popular entertainment. Godspeed to Michael Piller, and condolences to his family and friends. Hopefully, Star Trek will arise out of the ashes of the last two series, and become the benchmark of good science-fiction TV that it was when guys like Piller called the shots.
if they do make another Star trek...I want another war...and they need to lighten up on the deus ex machina crap...technology doesn't solve everything. or hell..maybe a series that doesn't focus on a captain and the senior staff...maybe something a little lower ranks? cuz these pissing matches over who the best captain is getting old...ya hear me geeks?
cuz if they ever utter crap like "Sir, we need to align the neutrino stream to a .06 micron variance" again...i'm changing the channel bitches.
Nov. 3, 2005, 7:35 p.m. CST
by Voice O. Reason
Sorry you have no taste.
Nov. 3, 2005, 8:23 p.m. CST
Popped the disc with "The Forge" on it in the player...well, it's just sad that after fumbling around for three seasons for some kind of direction and it's own voice, Coto and the Stevens (among others) come in and take the show's oiginal premise at face-value and offer up the best of what "Enterprise" could offer. There is actually a comadrie among the crew..an interesting dynamic between T'Pol and Archer, good continuity with what's "ahead" and great production values to boot (this DVD looks stunning!). Did it stumble in the final year? Sure...the season is bookended by episodes that rank among TTrek's worst (the hackneyed "how can we get out of this insipid time-travel yuck Bermanure & Bratga left us in & the dreadfully insipid slap in the fan's (and cast's) face "These are the Voyages") but once the mini-arc stories dealing with "Trek" lore kick in, the show realizes the promise offered way back in year one with the look to "trek's" past. Too bad it's over now. Barron34 brings up some good points in his post..."Trek" has stumbled since "Voyager"..another show that on paper anyway, had an interesting premise that was abandoned pretty quickly for the usual "what combination of stuff can we do that we've done a zillion times and throw in a wouldn't it look cool item to boot?" After two complete series under their belts, creative fatigue was settling in (it's another easy explaination for why the movie franchise died a slow death...) Berman et al sheparded the franchise through some good television...Next Gen has some excellent episodes that still hold up after repeat viewings and the passage of time and Pillar & Moore's DS9 is still the "Trek" bechmark for complex characters, multiarc storylines that engage everyone and a great cast. With this last season of "Trek" out on DVD to look at now, it's nice to see that Coto & co showed that there is still some life in the ol' galaxy after all. Here's hoping whoever takes up the reigns in the future can bring a fresh approch along with a healthy respect for what's come before and not just another show with funky foreheads and lithe ladies in lycra...time will tell...
Nov. 4, 2005, 12:59 a.m. CST
Trek lost it when they started setting series around irrelevant shitty crews. Voyager should never have happened. Enterprise shouldn't even be accepted as part of Trek. Pity it wasn't called something else because the name 'Enterprise' is now soiled.
Nov. 4, 2005, 4:06 a.m. CST
B and B and Manny Coto took chances guys - give Enterprise a break. Don't get me wrong I think B and B had too much control over Trek and it does need new blood but they came up with some good stuff. I think Scott Bakula was a complete different Captain by season 3, scarred and uncompromising. I thought he was great.he whole Xindi arc was great, the tension, the problems between the crew, a stern, tough Archer - willing to bend the rules (i.e. hijacking other ships for warp materials) etc was great. The supporting cast including the guy who played Drega (the Xindi councilman) were excellent. There were 1 or 2 weak episodes in the DVD Season 3 set but mostly it was a great Trek; militaristic, tough, uncompromising with the Enterprise taking a beating episode after episode and showing the strains on the ship itself and on the crew. I fucking loved it. And the cliffhanger: outrageous is all Im gonna say,
Nov. 4, 2005, 11:38 p.m. CST
Of course that never stopped idiots like myself from being glued to the friggin tube for decades.A waste of life as one would call it.
Nov. 5, 2005, 2:45 a.m. CST
I was shocked when I heard they were cancelling the show during the 4th season. In the fourth season they started giving the fans what they wanted; Some of the back stories of why things were in the TOS. They should have done this from the start and maybe they'd be on the air today. in the first 3 seasons they seemed to be continually rehashing bad Voyager plots!
Nov. 5, 2005, 2:53 a.m. CST
I can't wait for Star Trek academy with a young Kirk and all his girl problems! Please ST Producers you gotta do it for us. Yes ma'am may I have another!
Nov. 7, 2005, 11:55 p.m. CST
by TheGinger Twit
The old series - cheesy goodness. The next generation - possibly the greatest series production in existance. First 6 films - magic, even trek 5. the last 4 films - trashy, bar first contact. Ds9 - took a long time to find her footing but on par with the saga of the star wars films. They should have ended the show there instead of keeping the tradition alive of launching a new show ever few years. I'm not saying Voyager was bad, it was just star trek for girls. Enterprise..... oh poor Enterprise. It started looking good but it just wasn't star trek was it. Serenity for me was a nice surprise forme when I saw it. It had all the locations of Generations and Insurrection, but it was so much more enjoyable to watch. Trek is not dead. it is dormant. It WILL return ina big way. Especially if Nick Meyer has anything to say about it. Hopefully he'll bring Nimoy on board also. Those men knew Star Trek better than Berman or Braga ever pretended.
Nov. 8, 2005, 1:32 a.m. CST
Jesus fucking christ, you think you have enough ads on the page?
- Big SPOILERS for X-MEN: DAYS OF FUTURE PAST and APOCALYPSE as new rumors suggest a familiar face will be playing the role of APOCALYPSE!! -- 179 total posts 44 posts
- Disney can now make new Indiana Jones Movies!!! But what about Paramount? -- 224 total posts 33 posts
- SARAH CONNOR CHRONICLES Writers Developing New TERMINATOR TV Series!! -- 53 total posts 16 posts
- The Annual Official Fake BUTT-NUMB-A-THON 15 List!!! Plus other things like STANDBY news! -- 7 total posts 7 posts
LOW WINTER SUN
2013-2013 -- 13 total posts 6 posts
- Jerry Bruckheimer has returned to Paramount and Brett Ratner's BEVERLY HILLS COP IV is now on the way (again)! -- 92 total posts 6 posts
- Fox To Dabble In Shared X-MEN / FF Movieverse!?!? -- 172 total posts 6 posts
- Two More NYMPHOMANIAC Posters... -- 71 total posts 4 posts
- The Friday Docback Rounds Up This Week's DOCTOR WHO News!! 50th Celebration, 'Time of the Doctor,' HornOrSilk Reviews 'The Assassination Games' Big Finish Audio, And More!! -- 28 total posts 4 posts
- Capone's Art-House Round-Up with IS THE MAN WHO IS TALL HAPPY?, BETTIE PAGE REVEALS ALL, I AM DIVINE and THE GHOSTS IN OUR MACHINE!!! -- 19 total posts 2 posts