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UPDATED w/ comments from Liam Lynch!! The TENACIOUS D movie gets a couple more critical reviews!
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Hey guys... Quint here again. Shortly after posting the below reviews for TENACIOUS D IN THE PICK OF DESTINY I received an email from director Liam Lynch. He wanted to comment on where the movie was when it was test screened and give a message to the D fans! Always happy to oblige, I present to you the words of Mr. Liam Lynch!
Hey man,
thanks for getting some good discussion about the film going. All these points that people have mentioned were our notes as well.. and yes, it is
early days. One thing that should be known, is that several NON-D songs, (the datsons... the ACDC song during the car chase) will actually be
D songs when the movie is done. There are two new songs for these that we weren't able to put in for preview because we didn't have the vocals
finished yet. For me, that really hurt those scenes and made them feel like "Hollywood" moments instead of D moments. I just wanted fans or
people who did see our first preview last night to be aware of this. The ending that screened last night also was temp. We're trying to make this a
fucking classic... that's a daunting task but we feel like we're close and it's a matter of cutting down those moments that lag a bit and up-ing those
musical numbers. Thanks for the reviews though and I wanted you to know that the fans do a have a voice in this. The preview last night was AWESOME
for us. We made so many great realizations that have spawned new ideas and directions. We have plenty of time for reshoots and New Line has just
been incredibly supportive and on board to do whatever it takes to make this the greatest motion picture in the world.
thanks man,
Liam
Ahoy, squirts! Quint here with a pair of reviews from last night's test screening of TENACIOUS D IN THE PICK OF DESTINY. They were sent as "contrasting reviews" which had me nervous, but upon reading them I found that they didn't dislike the movie, just wanted more. These reviews aren't devastating or mean, but they do single out what didn't work.
I will say that this was the very first test screening and of all genres I think comedy benefits the most from the fine tuning it undergoes until the last minute when the reels have to be run out to theaters. I hope that the filmmakers take these reviews to heart and look at the movie objectively. If it needs more rockin' D numbers, then they have time to get the D back into the recording studio. I don't think the film is due for release until next Spring, so there is a lot of time to make this the best it can be. Here is the first review!
Overall, nice review from Mr.Paisley, but sounds like this person doesn't
understand the difference between good movies and bad movies, let alone "just
okay" movies. I saw the movie last night in Pasadena as well, and I have quite a
different opinion.
POD is brilliant at times, but falls of the cliff storywise once the pick
idea gets going. The opening of this movie is mind-blowing, is worth the price of
admission solely based on this scene alone, and is the most fun I've had in a
theater in a long time, The "mushroom/krofft/bigfoot scene" is really
abstract, hilarious, and gutbusting. I laughed so much during several secnes in this
movie, that it forgives all the disappointing scenes that make up most of this
flick.
Yes, MASTER EXPLODER is in the film, it is done amazingly well, Let's clear
the air, I saw the D play live at Comic-Con, at HOB, and at the Sunset Plaza.
They simply ROCK, and it is unfortunate that they seemed to have rushed
through scenarios in their film that had the potential to really ROCK. Now they come
off as filler, and at points, simply lame. If this was an album, it would
have three hits, and the rest would be unlistenable.
Pick: The idea of the pick is awesome, The pick is molded from the devils
tooth, but after that it almost cheapens the D, as well as all the rock gods who
supposdedly had it, because it is not about their talent, but a fake one. Even
though its a mcguffin, it still ends up coming off weak, and the film focuses
too much energy on this.
Cameos: Fred Armisen, the regular house boy for film cameos, his bit just
falls so flat that it is embarassing. Amy Poehler, in it for two seconds, under
utilized completely. Tim Robbins, awesome at first, becomes a 2005 bad SNL skit
by his last scene. Ben Stiller, he is actually good once he flips the zippo
open, but his introduction stinks so bad and he is so extra-muggy, that he
kills his following scene which introduces the whole "Pick" story. Why do people
still chuck in all these lame cameos? If real actors were in these scenes they
could actually work.
Car chase: atypical, and shot like a tv show, so If that's what they were
going for, they got it in spades. Unfortunately, for us, the viewers, it's yawn
inducing and not funny or exciting.
I wanted to really like this film, and was ready for it to be simply an
expanded episode like their HBO series, but it is so uneven and the lame cameos
sucked so bad, that it almost ruined the film for me, I just wish that MASTER
EXPLODER was the last song instead of what is now the last song, since it is
anti-climactic and underwhelming for what I've come to know from the D. I was
happy to see bits from the old show in this, like the club and the manager, and
the scenes with JB and KG are what holds this movie together.
I have to recommend the film, because the few scenes that are in it are so
good, so funny, and so eye-opening and refreshing, that it makes all the rest of
the dreck worth it. Liam Lynch directed some amazing set pieces, and really
shows his talent for taking surreal scenes and mushing them into normal ones.
JB and KB are perfect, and even make some of their lamer scenes good becuase of
their personalities. I am happy with the great scenes they got in this film,
and so all I can do is just hope that they cut out all the dreck.
Right now, this film is just okay. If this is what comes out when it is
finally released, i'll still recommend it for the scenes i described.
With some new scenes shot, and then cutting the lame bits, this film could
still ROCK!
if you use this, call me "mega-swarm".
Both of these reviews say the film has brilliance in it. Hopefully those aspects can be accentuated and some of the numbers that don't hit as well can be retooled. I can't wait to see the movie version of Master Exploder!!!
AICN,
Here's a counter-review if yer interested:
I'm another D fan that was at the Pasadena screening last night
and, though I can't say I walked away as enthusiastically as the
other guy, I can say that I had a real great time. A lot of what I'm
about to type is gonna sound very negative, but that's because my
expectations and hopes were pretty high for this one. Don't get me
completely wrong - this is a totally good movie - far above much of
what's out there these days...but I do think many of us were hoping for more.
The biggest problem with this flick is that there is not enough rock.
I know that sounds ludicrous, but it's sadly true. The opening
with a young JB and a couple of great rock cameos is priceless,
original, and inspired. Unfortunately, it's a level of rock hilarity that
the rest of the movie doesn't quite live up to. There is a Who fan
inside of me that really wishes that this entire movie was a Rock Opera.
The other review mentions "handfuls" of new material. I wish.
Granted, Master Exploder is brilliant. I love it - and it's scene in the film
totally lives up to it. But this soundtrack should feature at least seven
such songs. I'm not sure it reaches three. They played The Datsuns
at one point and, though it fit, I did secretly hope it was a place-holder
for some brilliant song JB and Rage are working up in the studio as we
speak. They play my favorite D song in this movie...and I was disappointed.
Why? Because that was my favorite D song a couple of years ago.
I thought this Fall was new album time. I think I'm wrong.
There are some great, classic moments...definitely worth the price of
admission and all, especially for fans, but I was really hoping that this
flick would hit a new high note...like the album does. On my survey
form asking if I thought the movie was "good", "very good", or "excellent"
I too-comfortably chose the middle-ground. I, and the minions of Rock,
were desperately hoping for the latter.
Call me The Soothsayer.
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Finally!!!!
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...but re-shoots would be damn near impossible for Jack due to Kong, correct?
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Oct 19, 2005 5:42:49 PM CDT
Anyone who thinks Jack Black is funny should jump into a neveren
by josh town
Along with Rob Schneider. That would make me smile.
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So why bother reading any?
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So it's pretty easy to understand how theres going to be conflicting reviews.
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D fans....has the D ever let you down?
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Bob and David and Kage and Jables and Posehn and Adsit and everybody else should get together and make a mega-ginormo movie that ties all the tendrils together into a flaming ball of rock goodness so delicious Hendrix himself will descend upon a cloud of virgins to taste of it.
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And just consider this blanket coverage for all D-Haters. Take your hatin's elsewhere now. It's not our fault that the D OWNS YOU WITH THE OPTION TO SELL YOU INTO WHITE SLAVERY. Don't go pissin' and moanin' to us: "Oooh, Jack Black isn't funny." "What's 'pull out all your pubic hair' supposed to mean?" "I don't ROCK like the fuckin' D and my pecker won't stay hard." Bah.
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Yes, their HBO show was great. Let's hope JB and KG will rock our socks off. I'll even drop trou and squeeze off a Cleveland Steamer on KG's chest if that's what it takes.
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And then work its way around to the cockandballs.
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And then work its way around to the cockandballs.
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TOGA TOGA TOGA TOGA TOGA TOGA TOGA! TOGA! TOGA! TOGA!
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Seriously, have you guys seen Troop!? If you live in LA or anywhere with a sketch comedy festival, you should watch for them.
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...along with Bell Biv Devoe, Force MD's, Tony Toni Tone, and New Edition, were indeed among the funniest New Jack comedy acts of the late 80s/early 90s. They are a laff fest!
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is MORE PREDATOR!!!!!!!
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Can't wait to see this, I'm sure it's going to rock hard.
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There is no way in hell this movie will suck. It's just INbuttfuckingPOSSIBLE
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and here i was thinking no one read mine at the studios when i posted here.
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And I'm canadian, although a poor example of one according to good old KS.
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Oct 20, 2005 4:14:26 AM CDT
So later I'm at the pool hall and this girl comes up and she
by cedar_room
YEAH, WHATEVER!!
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YEAH, WHATEVER!!
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Oct 20, 2005 4:21:32 AM CDT
Then I'm throwing dice in the alley and Officer Leroy comes
by cedar_room
YEAH, WHATEVER!!
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Oct 20, 2005 6:14:28 AM CDT
I've got to be honest, Kage and Jabels just mugging unscript
by lone fox
What IS the secret of their pow-er
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Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? ...Sounds like a great time at the movies. I can't wait.
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Don't let Herc see this review! Any challange to the "greatness" of SNL is heretical in his warped mind. In other news, The D will hopefully triumph.
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Oct 20, 2005 11:06:13 AM CDT
...this is just a tribute, you gotta believe me, i wish you were
by the_man_from_rio
(cont
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Oct 20, 2005 11:08:22 AM CDT
understandle=understandable, understanded underwood...over, capt
by the_man_from_rio
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Talkback suddenly gains a new relevancy. Most directors wouldn't do this, and it gives me a lot of confidence that Liam Lynch is actually listening and trying to craft a better film. Is it directing by democracy? No, because when something doesn't work, it just doesn't work, and you can't push "creative vision" through something that isn't clicking for the audience. Movies are already democratic - the director rarely has the complete and final say on a film. It's just really cool to see that Lynch is actually using the feedback to make a better movie - shows a lot of class.
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should be one persons view, the directors, not fan response aka focus groups
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...if these reviews are genuine. JB, GO OVER THE TOP!!!!! DO WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO TO MAKE THIS A ROCK OPERADICAL MIND FUCK!!! SAVE THIS AT ALL COSTS!!!! The bunk of booness has spoken, with pleading reverence.
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