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Moriarty Reviews DOMINO And It Ain't Pretty!!
Hi, everyone. "Moriarty" here with some Rumblings From The Lab...
Okay... short version first. I hated this movie. If all you’re looking for is a simplistic “yea” or “nay,” there you go.
Let me explain. DOMINO is one of those films that looks good on paper. You’ve got Richard Kelly as a writer. You’ve got Tony Scott coming off one of his career highs. Youv’e got a large supporting cast filled with quirky, interesting actors. It’s the sort of hard-boiled fare that can be a great foundation for a wild action ride. So it goes to follow that the film’s great... right?
The film’s first big mistake, one that’s impossible to overcome, is the casting of Kiera Knightley as Domino Harvey. I’m giving up on her at this point. She’s not a good actor. She’s not a bad actor. She’s a non-actor. She brings nothing. There’s not one scene in this film where I believe her. She doesn’t look tough or dangerous, and I don’t buy her roughhousing with the big boys. There’s a scene early on where she gets Mickey Rourke’s attention by throwing a knife through his windshield that is ludicrous. The idea that his character wouldn’t get out of his car, stomp this pouty little overprivileged 82 pound bitch into a wet spot on the pavement, then drive away is absurd. There’s nothing in the film to indicate why we should believe any of this behavior from Domino, or more importantly, why we should care. Domino comes off as spoiled, sullen, abrasive, and pissed at the world for no reason. She cockteases the men in her life for fun and seems to feel that any conversation is better if you punch someone. I know the way I’m describing it makes her sound interesting. She’s not. This all comes off as hollow, phony, a pose struck by a pretty girl who never had to develop a personality, and whose only frame of reference is movies. Maybe another actress might have found something to do with the role, but Knightley comes up empty-handed in every scene. It doesn’t surprise me that the story she keeps telling on talk shows and in every interview is all about the quest to find her butt double, because that’s about the level of insight she provides to her role.
The second culprit in this particular conspiracy of catastrophe is, sadly, Richard Kelly. And, yeah, I know it’s not going to make me popular to say that. Richard’s a talented guy. He’s got a rabid fanbase. He’s part of the tight-knit group of friends like Eli Roth and Quentin Tarantino who are one of the cooler power bases in the business right now. I think he’s got a strong, personal voice. Having said that, DOMINO is simply a case of trying too hard. It tries too hard to be cleverly structured. It tries too hard to be cool and badass. It tries too hard to give significance to a story that practically defines insignificance. Its biggest sin is incoherence. At heart, this is a fairly simple robbery-gone-wrong story, and all of the script’s various contortions seem designed to disguise the fact that we’ve seen this sort of thing a million times, and not much really happens. The most confounding part of it is how Kelly, who has always seemed tuned in to his own particular radio station as a writer, for some reason succumbs to doing that same tired post-Tarantino shtick that wore out its welcome about three months after PULP FICTION. We’re in BOONDOCK SAINTS territory here. The use of the two guys from BEVERLY HILLS 90210 is funny for about two minutes, but when every other shitty reality show on TV uses has-been celebrities for ironic effect, it doesn’t seem very bold. At one point, Domino says, “If you want to know what’s true and what not, fuck you.” Yeah, yeah, that’s hilarious, just like the opening title that says, “This is based on a true story... sort of.” The problem is, none of this shit is true. Sure, a few basic facts, but the main story itself, the meat of the movie, is all played as such obvious cartoon, filled with so many details that would have been in the news and common knowledge if they had happened, that it begs the question: why bother? Why use Domino Harvey as the main character if you’re going to invent the whole story? What was it about her that made her compelling enough in the first place, and why isn’t the film about that?
Y’know who deserves the most blame, though? Tony Scott. No question about it. Seriously, dude, it’s time for an intervention. We need to take his Avid away, we need to give him a script for a simple two-character one-act play, and we need to force him into a boot camp on the basics of storytelling, because he has lost his motherfucking mind.
He’s passed the point now where style strangles substance and gotten to a place where style is all that remains. He’s not even interested in substance. I honestly believe that Tony Scott made exactly the film that he set out to make. I just don’t think he had any idea what he was hoping to say with the movie. Every moment is given such bombastic overimportance that nothing matters. It’s one thing if you want to use hyperactive pyrotechnics to sell the frantic chaos of a twelve-way shootout, that’s one thing. But when you use that same exact level of visual hyperactivity to show me a little girl’s goldfish die, you devalue it. Eventually, it all just becomes numbing. The sad thing is that I don’t think Tony Scott’s grown one bit as a filmmaker since BEVERLY HILLS COP 2, and this is pretty much exactly a vapid film as that was. He still seems to prefer noise and chaos to characterization or real action. He still manages to shoot actors in a way that guarantees that even when he does get a good performance out of someone, there’s no guarantee we’ll see it. I liked MAN ON FIRE last year, but I think it was in spite of Tony Scott, not because of him. When I asked Ray Manzarek one time about his opinion of Oliver Stone’s THE DOORS, he said, “That was a white powder movie about a psychedelic band.” Great observation, and this is a movie about a mescaline high that seems to have been made by someone who’s never even had mescaline accurately described to them before. It’s frantic, but that’s hardly the same thing.
There are some things to like about the film. Mickey Rourke’s recent resurgence continues full-force, even if he’s not given anything to do. It’s nice to see Dabney Coleman show up for about three minutes. I was also very impressed with Edgar Ramirez, who plays Choco, a bounty hunter who works with Rourke and Domino. He’s a commanding screen presence, charismatic and physical, and I’ll be we see more of him in the future. There’s one very funny scene involving Mo’Nique on the JERRY SPRINGER show. There’s one great act of violence, but the scene’s marred by a music cue that’s just a little too RESERVOIR DOGS for its own good. And then there’s the opening title sequence, one of the coolest of the year. But that’s about it. That’s all I could find to hold on to in two hours of headache-inducing hysteria. DOMINO is a baffling mess, a movie that means to thrill but which ends up as one of the most depressing, empty exercises of the year.
One more review for you later today... for GOOD NIGHT, AND GOOD LUCK, and then I’ve got all sorts of great stuff all weekend long. Until then...
"Moriarty" out.
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For the first intelligent things said about this film on AICN so far.
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Thanks for the review...I'll be avoiding this one.
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I'd still give Kiera the fucking of her lifetime, though.
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You really didn't like this , did you? Poor KK , she is hot as hell but plays every role almost the same..much like Michelle Rodriquez..
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Moriarty didn't pull any punches and I really understood what he was saying...I could see the crappy movie in my mind based on his writing. I'm glad it got him riled up enough to write such a good review.
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... that's cool, but in a film, don't you think we could maybe start to understand why? The whole "Daddy Wasn't There" thing is given a wee bit of lip service with her watching THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE at the beginning, but if that's the whole psychological underpinning of the film, then boo-freakin'-hoo. It's as deep as a mirror.
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She brings nothing to any roles she does. She got into this business because her parents have strong connections to the industry. Have any of you noticed that in EVERY photo of her she has her mouth slightly open. She looks like a fucking zombie. I hope she stars in a film with some decent young actresses (Like Danes, Portman, Deschanel and Dawson) who show her up as the no talent she really is. In my mind she is no where near Kate Winslet's level.
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In any case, I'm much more likely to believe Moriarty's reviews then Harry's. Moriarty at least is believable without sounding like he wrote it on the toilet while masterbating. I guess the industry has been REALLY quiet about this film since Domino O.D.ed in a hotel room last month.
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A voice of reason within the 'Domino' pimping zone. Thanks, Mory, for being honest and truthfull.
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Oct 14, 2005 7:37:12 AM CDT
Great review, Mori. The NY Times review is a good counter-point
by lance rock
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I haven't seen Domino yet and I must ask... How come Harry's review and yours are polar opposites? In this situation, the reader gets confused because on the one hand, it's this totally fucking amazing movie where Kiera Knightley is badass and tough as nails. On the other hand we have she is a nothing actress and everything she does in this movie is fake and void of anything one would call emotion. Harry and you should seriously sit down and discuss why you think this way because I for one find it interesting and confusing at the same time. I tend to think that a bad performance is a bad performance. After all nobody denies that Gregory Peck in To Kill A Mockingbird is anything less than amazing. And everyone can agree that Tara Reid in Alone In The Dark is absolutely cancer inducing. So what the fuck sit each other down and have it out as to why you think this way and have a fucking good old fashioned argument because seriously! These opposite opinions are pissing me off because these reviews help us choose which movies to spend our money on opening day. Granted you could go on rotten tomatoes and see the 13% for Domino or whatever but then I see Roger Ebert saying wow 3 stars I liked it! Cmon!
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So she based the role on her friend. Forshame beanpole, forshame.
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damn, Mori, i didn't know you had it in ya! cheers, bro! that was great. i can feel the hate growing in you! (still, even though i know it's going to suck, i want to see the movie. why? cause i got a thang for Keira. she's so... fake and skinny... so coked-out and waify... she's the new Twiggy, the new Edie Sedgewick, and i want to devour her... she's gorgeous... and shes a bounty huntaaah...)
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He wrote the first draft. That's it. His name was kept on it entirely to sell the movie to guys like us but from what I understand, maybe 15% of what he actually wrote (like the "Blacktino" bit) is actually on the screen. I heard that a week ago and instantly wrote this movie off.
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Oct 14, 2005 8:25:00 AM CDT
Must admit, I tuned out of this review after Moriarty totally wr
by leiadown&fuckher
Also, it's kinda interesting that this review didn't surface until after 90% of legit critics had already given this film an absolute drubbing (and therefore is now safe to do likewise, despite the positive lip service the film already had on this site previously, and the countless ads for the film splattered everywhere), but that's probably just my conspiracy theorist split personality taking over again...
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Keep your reviews as direct as this one, and it will be for the better. If you like it, like it. Hate it, hate it. It develops credibility. No more wishy-washy, dig for a reason, atypical AICN review...and if it hurts feelings, so be it.
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Oct 14, 2005 8:36:05 AM CDT
Oh I'm sorry QTN, I didn't realise you were the God of a
by leiadown&fuckher
I'll never dare have my own opinion ever again, I promise. Fucktard.
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... the only reason it took me until now to review it is because I didn't see it until Wednesday night.
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... you've got it exactly backwards. There was a first draft that Kelly came in and rewrote. The script that shot is Richard Kelly's script.
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that may be a first time in history. still, the waif... she calls to me in all her inspidid ADD-styled glory...
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Tony Scotts personal involvement with Domino. I haven't seen it yet since us lowly people don't get press screening passes...(you lucky bastards) I genuinely hope I lean more towards Harry's review since I'm a Tony Scott fan. We need some top ten lists on the site so we can debate and give our own and what not... Just a thought. I know CHUD has best villian countdowns and all that but I disagree with a ton of those. It would be interesting for Moriarty and Harry to each do their own top ten lists to see how different or the same they are.
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Oct 14, 2005 9:03:13 AM CDT
Hey fair enough, like I said it was probably just my crazy tin f
by leiadown&fuckher
Besides which, no one ever needs to justify their own tastes anyhow, but when I'm readinga review if I see clear markers where the reviewers tastes clearly seem to vary widely against my own then their review suddenly becomes little more than curiosity value at best. That's not to invalidate the opinion as much as it is a realisation that this person has what appears very different tastes than my own in certain regards, and as such isn't much use as a benchmark measure for me personally and what I should or shouldn't go see. Add to which, at the end of the day everyone should always make up their own damn minds anyway, it's the only way to know for sure what films do and don't work for you.
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I want some captures, so I don't have to wait & rent this turd just to see those pert little A/B cuties.
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It is SO BAD. Overdone in every way. Not funny, not original, not interesting, NOT ANY GOOD. It's crap. TOTAL, EMBARASSING, "I WISH I WAS TARANTINO" CRAP.
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OK - I'll still rent it since Kiera is so fun to look at, but Mori's review is much closer to what I was expecting. Chicks with guns is always fun, and when the chick in question is Kiera, I was really hoping this would rock. Sadly - the trailers sucked and although Harry fapped all over this, I tend to trust Mori's judgement this time.
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Oct 14, 2005 10:38:17 AM CDT
My girlfriend wrote this off as soon as she heard KK say "Bounty
by nivek666
Looks like she was right, Moriarty picked out alot of the stuff I was concerned with. My girlfriend usually loves tough chick flicks like Long Kiss Goodnight and Kill Bill, and she likes KK, and after hearing the script reveiw here I figured she'd really dig this as well. But after she sen the trailer she was like "She looks like she's 100 lbs. soaking wet, how the fuck can she pass as a Bounty Hunter, looks stupid"? The only reason I really wanted to see this is for Mickey and Walken, but I think I'll wait for DVD or pay per view to catch this flick.
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The reason this will do well is because all the geeks will want to see "teh hawt" Keira and that's good enough for them. God knows why they have to go and see her in a movie instead of just checking out pics of her on the 'net. (this can be applied to Jessica Alba, so on and so forth) or heck, I hear you can d/l videos of just the "sexy" scenes from their movies for "teh free".
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EVERY other review except Harrys indicates that this is a BAD movie. I read a local review that said the cutting and editing is so severe and constant, that it makes Mtv look like PBS...That's a real selling point! Show me images so fast that I cannot even comprehend what is going on. Apparently there is actual dialogue ON SCREEN! Yes, phrases the characters say appear ON SCREEN! How clever and hip is that?!
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Truer words have never been spoken
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Oct 14, 2005 10:53:47 AM CDT
Oh yeah, the trailer pretty much confirmed everything I just rea
by doom ii
and that is that Domino is a shit-stain of a movie. I TOTALLY agree that Tony Scott has not improved 1 bit in 15 years as a director. And I also pointed out in another TB that his brother Ridley is getting worse with age as well, but at least Ridley had a couple near masterpieces under his belt (Alien & Blad Runner) before he started churning out overproduced cinematic bile.
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Thanks again, M. You're the most honest and INTELLIGENT guy I know working in Hollywood.
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Don't question it. Don't fight it. Just relax and give in to it. Shhh.... yes...
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Gotta give it up for Moriarty (my favorite film reviewer, by the way). Saw this one about two weeks ago and was so underwhelmed I couldn't even bring myself to do a review. While Ms. Knightly is definitely sexy, all she does is here is stand around all pouty-like and then hit people. I absolutely HATE Tony Scott's direction here as well. It's just shaky camera movement, quick cuts, bleached out color and repetitive audio ("MY NAME IS DOMINO HARVEY...my name is domino harvey."). Stylistically, it is a kissing cousin of "Man on Fire." I get the feeling that Scott said to himself, "Well, it worked in "MoF", it'll work here." But likewise, I think that film worked in spite of Tony Scott, not because of him. You had both Denzel and Dakota Fanning, for cripes sake. There is no really outstanding performances here...I mean Mickey Roarke is a badass as always, and I did get a chuckle from the 90210 guys, but yeah, everyone else is a blank. Even Walken is a cartoonish rehash of past characterizations. Pretty bummed about this one because I was so looking forward it because of the story, too. And they just fucked with that to the point of absurdity. To my knowledege, the Stratosphere in Vegas hasn't suffered any damage due some huge explosions. Do yourself a favor...really. Wanna see a cartoon? Go see "Wallace and Gromit" instead...you'll have a MUCH better time. So says the King.
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My tastes are my own, and I couldn't give a rats ass what anyone else thinks of them, good, bad or indifferent. It means exactly nothing to me. I'm secure enough in my own tastes that I honestly don't give a shit who else thinks what, or if someone agrees with me or no one does. And if you'll notice, I didn't tell you your opinion is wrong, I just don't like people telling me mine is. Your opinion is your own, and you're entitled to think whatever the fuck you want to think about whatever fucking movie you want to think about, but just don't assume to tell me what I should think, because that's something that really chaffes my ass. That is all.
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AND the shot selection, and the aftereffects stuff. But this sounds horrible. I don't care if it actually was someone's name - I can't take seriously a movie built around a character named "Domino Harvey", especially if you go out and get KK to play her.
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No matter how much work he gets now, it'll always be of the supporting character type and in post-Tarantino cheese like this and SIN CITY. The man's face looks seriously scary in interviews. He can't even take his sunglasses off for fear of scaring the kids. And, is any one surprised this movie sucks teabags?
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I used to love Tony Scott. I used to think he was actually a better director than Ridley. The Hunger, Revenge, True Romance, even Crimson Tide -- all films I loved. I even liked the way he made tripe like Beverly Hills Cop II and Top Gun look. Sure they sucked, but they looked great. But right around the time of Enemy of the State, he lost it. He can't concentrate, can't seem to focus on his scenes. (Ridley's gotten to be that way too). I never thought I'd say this, but right now, I think Michael Bay is a better director than Tony Scott. And Michael Bay can't direct traffic. (Sur, he can shoot car chases, but they don't make visual sense.) Anyhow, let's hope Tony gets his hands on a simply script like Matchstick Men, stops doing blow, and hires a decent editor who will reign him in once of these days. Redemtion can happen. It happend to Joel Schumacher - for a while (Tigerland, Phone Booth)
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Oct 14, 2005 11:51:54 AM CDT
If I remember correctly Keira used a body double for any nude sc
by frodosblueballs
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sorry about the errors in my post above. pot calling the kettle blak,
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Mori, you demonstrate succinctly why you are my favorite reviewer on this site by far and one of my favorites, in general. People have taken to blaming Tony Scott for being "stylistic" for the sake of being stylistic, but more importantly, you nail that Domino complete and utter lack of development is no doubt the primary reason to stay away from this film. As I am a glutton for punishment (and see films for free) I will see Domino...if only to revel in the bit player supporting cast (there are too many supporting actors of whom I am a fan of in this film). By the way, what about Christopher Walken? Was he not worth the mention?
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See "Ten 'Thumbs Up' Reasons Why I Can't Believe Roger Ebert"
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...because it absolutely does not trust its audience. If something in a scene is going to be important, we get closeups from multiple angles, a dramatic sound effect, and maybe even some titles one the screen. Same goes for important dialogue...if it's subtitled, it must mean it's going to be important later. When I watched it a second time (after thinking it was pretty good,) I realized that it was insulting me every step of the way.
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Harry's reviews are all about name dropping. He spends too much time telling everyone how early he saw this and how long ago he was pimping that and how so and so was at his house for drinks and they talked about how great the whole world is, golly gee yay. P.S. Did he mention that he knows everyone? That's really important. Okay, good. Quint's reviews are pretty easy. Fun or no fun? No pretense, no thinly veiled attempts to impress us as readers with all the people he knows, just good clean enjoy it or not reviews. Mori thinks. He analyzes. He watches a film and never once loses himself inside it. He takes notes of details that appeal to him and shortcomings that he finds every step of the way. He is detatched while Quint is absorbed while Harry is too busy making connections (so he can craft yet another review from names alone) to even watch the film. So depending on what you are looking for in a review, you know who to look to and who to trust.
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1)"Cuddle? What a fag." 2)Rocco's scene with his drugged out wife(the camera angle with him pointing his gun really sells the line)
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I've long given up and reading Harry's reviews as anything other than him massaging his own ego. You get the impression that Harry always has an eye on arse licking to further his own careet and not alienate anyone who might be useful to him. Shame. Moriarty's review was a good one, because it's not fuelled by anything other than him wanting to tell readers what he thought of the film. You always get the feeling there is another agenda with anything Harry writes.
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I have faith in this site again.The Dark side of the Force hasn't totally prevailed yet...
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...but expecting Harry to be even the slightest bit honest about a film that's made by one of his friends is like expecting Sean Hannity to criticize a Republican
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I saw it. I can feel it. Its miasmic darkness must be purged.
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can you criticize keira knightley while practically praising orlando freakin bloom? geez man.
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...but Harry has nicely edited last night's postings on his lame review,mine is gone, as other people's posts. Nice free site.
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Oct 14, 2005 1:52:07 PM CDT
Domino Harvey IS the deadest tomboy beanpole on the planet
by entrailsoup
Is the fact that she OD'd ever brought up in any of the hyping/promotion of the movie, even any offhand remark during an interview? No "RIP Domino Harvey 19??- 2005" at the end of the credits?
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That was a great book -- lean, gritty, almost Hemingway-esque in its style -- that was pooped on by Scott with his soft filters, and by Costner, whom Madeline Stowe diplomatically responded, when asked what it was like to work with him, "He knew he was movie star and wanted to make sure you did, too". And as for DOMINO: You knew it was gonna suck when Kelly and Scott decided to use the same Rashomon rip off retelling that Scott used for SPY GAME. An unreliable narrator relays a story from a certain point of view. How original...
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I knew it was only a matter of time before some burn-out goon shed a single tear because Moriarty slagged that unwatchable piece of shit. You may be "secure" in your taste as you state ten times in your above post, but you're also an idiot and nothing can change that either.
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I think Moriarty has finally lost his mind.
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... find the quote above where I mentioned TRUE ROMANCE. Go ahead. I'll wait.
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Oct 14, 2005 4:04:29 PM CDT
Thanks! Your review and the Retrocrush review saved me $15.00
by right bastard
Thanks for the honest review. Here's another bad review, for those interested: http://tinyurl.com/bx7qz
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... puts it perfectly. That was a wonderfully acted and written movie, that was killed... fucking KILLED... by Scott's direction. It almost made me nauseous to watch it. And this looks like more of the same, minus the engaging plot and performances. Tony Scott has some completely brilliant films on his resume, but lately... going backwards: Man on Fire, already mentioned. Spy Game: Good performances, great concept, not-horrifically terrible direction (that's not a compliment, btw). Enemy of the State: the beginning of the end. But at least in this movie the choppy editing and funky screen colors served a purpose that actually had some bearing on the plot - on the movie itself. The Fan - inept horseshit. Crimson Tide - O.K. True Romance - genius. It's been a slow slide downhill, but it HAS been downhill. And it's getting worse in a hurry.
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Oct 14, 2005 4:32:16 PM CDT
Easily The Worst Movie I've Seen This Year (And One Of The W
by zombiesolutions
i fucking kid you not -- it is THAT fucking bad. it doesn't even rate as "so bad it's good" or "so bad it's funny" its just B-A-D. relentlessly, grindlingly bad. honeslty, i'm not even sure what the fuck it was about. was it an action movie? pretty fucking boring for an action movie. was it exploitation? sorta.. maybe? but pretty fucking tame in that department too. i think i suppose it was trying to be a satire of some kind, but i'm not even sure what of. was it a parody of itself? of Scott? if there is a joke here, it's this -- Scott is a total retard; but he managed to trick other retards (like me) into seeing this unredeemable piece of crap by dangling hot virtual jailbait waiftail Keira fucking Knightley in it who is so bony she needs an ass double. Terrible. I think i've actually lost brain matter being subjected to that piece of crap. and those 2 hours (which seems like 5) are gone forever. (I still want to devour KK though... body and soul... yummy!)
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You didn't mention TRUE ROMANCE, but you said "The sad thing is that I don’t think Tony Scott’s grown one bit as a filmmaker since BEVERLY HILLS COP 2." So, you didn't say it was a better movie, yet you did say that he hasn't grown any since that movie. Well, TRUE ROMANCE is arguably one of his best movies. So, you think that he has not grown since a movie he made 5 years before it. What should we conclude? That his lack of growth means that he was able to make a couple of very good movies since 1987 and yet he has not grown any since then?
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Oct 14, 2005 6:16:41 PM CDT
The only way these overproduced/over edited movies will go away
by doom ii
if they only bring around 15 million the first weekend and then drop 60% the next weekend. If Tony Scott had 3 of these crazy "I'm so surreal and cool and hip! Look at this shot, now let's move on to another! GUN, CAR, EXPRESSION!" movies flop in a row, I wouldn't be surprised if he tried to do a small film next. Michael Bay actually showed SOME maturity with Pearl Harbor. Scenes lasted longer and some shots were beautiful without the flash. The movie was a letdown overall, but seriously. Compare Pearl Harbor to The Rock. Or Bad Boys. Tony Scott suffers from ADD. Period. I really think a lot of people with mental problems are working in Hollywood today and people just don't see it. Hollywood is such an ass-kissers "yes men" paradise, that wacko, shitty directors (and actors) get away with anything they want. I dig what Gus Van Sant has been doing lately. Here's a Hollywood director who could probably make some sweet cash, but he's doing small "art" films that a few thousand people see. Van Sant= NOT A SELL OUT.
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Oct 14, 2005 6:34:06 PM CDT
Anyone else find it distasteful how Tony Scott goes around...
by film whisperer
...talking about what a great person the real Domino Harvey was, how well he got to know her, then essentially makes an utterly fictional movie? There's more than a small whiff of hypocrisy there. But then what do you expect from a no talent Hollywood a-hole like Scott. Hell, the guy doesn't even have a career if there were no color filters and Avids.
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Kinda reminiscent of your review of The Cell, a few years back -- high profile movie that's all style and no substance. And female badasses... I'm just kinda sick of the ridiculousness of 'em -- I can't suspend my disbelief anymore watching some 100 lb. hottie kick the shit out of some 250 lb. man-ape. I mean, if the choreography is really, really believable... yeah, I still can't. Not that that gripe is necessarily applicable to this movie, but still.
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It cant be Man on Fire..that movie was TERRRIBLE! Gave me a headache..
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I still haven't seen True Romance yet...well...except for the first ten minutes (edited) on TV.
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Gave me a headache the first time I saw it but it got easier to follow and became much much better on subsequent viewings. I now like the movie very much.
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You make me laugh whole heartedly. But just to stir the pot. 3&4 are the best.
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Oct 14, 2005 9:09:17 PM CDT
This and Southland Tales will finally prove what a HACK Richard
by thunderballs
Seriously, why does Richard Kelly get so much fucking hype? The guy made one decent, somewhat original film. OK.....big fucking deal. Let's see what else you got Richard, oh yeah, that's right, all you have is shit that makes use of reality TV as a main theme. Don't date yourself too much there buddy. Can't wait to see this guy disappear after these next two flops. Knightley is connected in the biz through her parents eh? Is that any different than 90% of the actors, writers, directors and producers in Hollywood? Nope! Hell if Richard Kelly's good friend wasn't connected up the ass at CAA he would be washing cars right now. EVERYONE in Hollywood is connected in some way or another. If you don't have connections, you'll NEVER make it in Hollywood, period. PT Anderson? Mother was a huge casting agent.Anyone you can think of had a connection, and they'll never admit it, EVER! They all try to make it seem they made it on their own with no help. Cocksuckers.
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I mean really where you expecting Domino to feature a convincing performance by her? Knightley cant act, and never will be able to act - merely for the fact that she doesnt know how to and never will be able to. Hollywood keeps giving her roles not based on her talent, but purely based on the fact that her name is a marketing label to put on posters. She is only popular for the fact that she is mildly attractive and also that she has been in a few successful movies - successful because they didnt rely on her to give a performance of something better than in a cough syrup commerical. She is a talentless bag of shit and why this skinny rake of a woman who couldnt act if her life depended on it was given the role of a bounty hunter, a fucking bounter hunter, defies all fucking logic. Hollywood will continually give her starring roles in movies that Knightley will never even have the need to start acting. She can just keep playing the same plain as shit character and Hollywood will keep paying her 5+ million a movie for it.
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That's the first thing I saw her in and thought she was some great eye candy. I guess she wasn't a very good actress though. That movie is overrated and crappy though.
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...and Harry loooooved it! Way to go Mori!
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He claims Knightley is a shoe-in for an oscar nom this year after seeing Pride & Prejudice (see his review for this movie). So. . . everyone's thoughts?
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I don't know, it seems that Tony Scott is constantly frowned down upon because of his amazing use of the film medium. Sure if everyone did it then it would be overkill but he's the one of the only ones pushing the medium visually and I never get lost in the story or get overwhelmed by the medium. Sure it's not for everybody but I love it. Recently I read a review of The Fan that scolded Tony Scott over his 'overuse' of the Medium. Wow, The Fan wouldn't stand out of place nowadays in it's use of the medium...which to me suggests that Tony Scott is ahead of his time. Way ahead of his time. At the end of the day Tony Scott isn't for everyone, but I for one love it. And MAN ON FIRE was my favourite movie of last year...not in spite of Tony Scott but because of Tony Scott. Had he not touched it, it would've turned out to be a standard revenge film. And keep in mind that a director monitors performance as well and MAN ON FIRE was also made by performance. Look at Dakota Fanning's performance in that compared to her very lackluster performance in WAR OF THE WORLDS (possibly Spielberg's laziest film ever). What I don't understand is why Tony Scott is chastized for his very different approach to cinema. Do you honestly want a factory of cookie cutter filmmakers that all make the same looking films? Isn't that why Brett Ratner (not to mention other directors) is reviled on this site? Go Tony Scott you good thing!
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Bad? Well, here is the problem with 'Domino'. It gets the train moving too often. The action starts, the main cast starts to become interesting and then BAM! a useless subcharacter bumbles onto screen, or a FLICKER FLICKER EXPOSURE SATURATION FLICKER FLICKER flashback pops-up, derailing the train from the tracks. Not into a total wreck, but off the tracks. This goes on for about three dozen more instances. The train is out of the station by the time Tom Waits mugs his way into the flick. Yes, it has been said of many movies before, but 'Domino' plays like an extended music video. I counted FIFTY-ONE songs listed in the credits, most of which blended together, and are splattered about as if Tony Scott is DEMANDING we understand how HIP he is. There really is only one honest moment of the film. It comes at the very, very, very, end. The credits are rolling, and all the stars are only referred to by their first names (I AM TONY SCOTT AND I AM HIP), and then this cute/ugly bald women comes into focus. It looks nothing like the rest of the movie. The colors are solid, the lighting is perfect. A car is burning in the background, a little nod to the final act at the Stardust Hotel. The woman is Domino Harvey. Her smile was genuine. It then became clear, that the true story of this far more interesting and pathetic woman wasn't told, and that instead a rehash of SpyGame/True Romance was just forced down our throats. What a foolish trip, indeed.
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Just to annoy self righteous fuckwads like you. Thank you and good night.
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I suppose Keira could be nominated for an Oscar and a Razzie in the same year. After all for every Ray, there is a Stealth...and Domino makes Rob Cohen look like Joel and Ethan Coen!
Okay, I take that back.
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I'd totally jump ship
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Oct 15, 2005 2:30:56 AM CDT
Does anyone else doubt Drew hates women now? Or am I psychoanaly
by lordenigma
Who writes in such an abrasive manner, and expects to be taking seriously? An odd question to ask in a talkback and AICN of all places, but it has to be asked. If I am reaching with my analysis of this review, then I apologize to Drew. However, it reads way too mean-spirited and angry towards women for me to put must cadence in it. It's 2005. When is it time to act like a big boy?
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Oh, you make me laugh. Hate women? Hardly. Whatever this film's conception of Domino Harvey is, it's not as a woman. My distaste for this film has as much to do with my feelings about anything in real life as the film itself has to do with real people. None.
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Oct 15, 2005 4:11:50 AM CDT
First of all, they should have cast Brittany Murphy in the lead
by moviemaniac-7
She is more believable in... anything, actually than Keira Knightley to be honest. One of these days the script for this movie will pop up online and we can all see how much of Kelly's script was kept and how much ended up on the cutting floor. As for Scott, I think that there is a good director hidden under all the MTV-Michael-Bay-imitating-editing and True Romance might be his career high. Simple example of an excellent script and a perfectly cast movie. Only people like McG and Uwe Boll could have fucked that movie up. And I was actually hoping that Domino would be some kind of equal to True Romance.
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One of the things you can assume is that I'm not a huge TRUE ROMANCE fan. I know... everyone's so in love with it. Personally, I'll just watch BADLANDS, where they stole their score, if I want a young-lovers-on-the-run film. Tony Scott's style suffocates the life out of a fun script by treating it like it's all so very serious. The best scene in the film -- Hopper and Walken -- is all about the actors, and again, it works in spite of Scott, not because of him.
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Oct 15, 2005 4:31:12 AM CDT
amazing use of the film medium? tony scott is the new joel schu
by miltonwaddams
could it be because harry gives non stop handjobs to richard kelly wierd that harry and mori's review clash. could it be because chubs and richard kelly recently became best friends forever? come on now, let's not be silly. i'm gonna side with mori on this one..
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my post is all bugaboo. you get the point.
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The Last Boy Scout and True Romance ruled.
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well, the stuff that everyone's saying. nothing special here.
another proof harry is more intelligent than moriaty.
how can everyone complaining about scott??? hes the only freaking guy out there who has a unique style!!!!!!11 -
Oct 15, 2005 9:25:57 AM CDT
The Only Way To Stop These Raging Gangbangers Is To Give Their L
by zombiesolutions
terrible. TERRIBLE. the only good moment? guy gets his arm blown off. that's it. even the KK eyecandy can't save this miserable piece of cowshit. this movie makes SHOWGIRLS seem like CITIZEN KANE. it makes BATTLEFIELD EARTH seem like 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY. (Did i forget to mention that nothing actually happens in this movie. NOTHING.) Tony Scott needs to have his directors liscense revoked.
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Oct 15, 2005 10:41:54 AM CDT
I guess one's reaction to MAN ON FIRE could be set by your m
by fluffyunbound
Although this statement is true about any film, it is particularly true in that case, for all the reasons people are talking about here. I saw it on cable at 2 in the morning freaked out by insomnia, and it blew my mind - it was like watching Denzel Washington's character have a long dream / nightmare on screen, precisely because the imagery was disjointed and sometimes hamhanded but it all seemed to make a bizarre kind of sense. If you sat down and described a scene to me ["OK, Denzel jumps into the pool and there's an underwater shot of blood seeping out of his wounds, and then all of a sudden a ghost image of Dakota Fanning is also swimming around in the underwater shot"] I would probably, sight-unseen, respond by saying that sounded like cornball overmannered hack cheese - but when I actually saw it executed, I liked it. I was touched when I was supposed to be touched, so the manipulation worked.
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Most of the camera shots are ludicrious. There are a few gems here and there, like a slow-motion fight scene that works despite (maybe even because of) being set to a techno score. But what makes me like the movie is the dialogue. Yes, it's laden with F-bombs...in every sentence, even, but it's the little things that make it stand out for me. "Well...certainly illustrates the diversity of the word." "Symbology? I believe the word you're looking for is 'symbolism.' 'What is the ssssymbolism there?'" "And we will send you to whatever God you wish." I'm big on movie quotes and good dialogue...and Boondock Saints has it. The look of the film is mostly rubbish though, I'll agree there.
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Oct 15, 2005 12:32:52 PM CDT
Lucien, Tony Scott does not push the boundaries of cinema. His
by orbots commander
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Oct 15, 2005 12:56:38 PM CDT
I like when the hookers walk into their apt the day after their
by white owl
SHUT UP! I CANT GO BUY A PACK OF SMOKES WITHOUT RUNNING INTO NINE GUYS YOU FUCKED! general warmness for boondock saints is felt here.
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Oct 15, 2005 3:50:07 PM CDT
Hurrah! Moriarty and Harry give polar opposite reviews, and Beak
by raulmonkey
While Beaks is more in agreement with Moriarty, he finds the film inventive enough to declare it half-bad/half-good:
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I just saw Domino and you nail it on the head once again proving you are the true brains of AICN and Harry is just the dumb ugly redheaded spokesman.
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The guys started in commercials, therefore you knew they could not make many decent films. Sure Ridley had some good early films, but the guy has disappeared since Black Rain. Bottom line is these guys are commercial dudes, ad men, that is why they suck. People in advertising have no soul, they are empty individuals with nothing to offer society.
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Oct 15, 2005 8:21:46 PM CDT
Coo!! That was fuckin great! You harsh but fair mother fucker Mo
by awesomebillfunk
Burnt Tony Scott. Burnt Richard Kelly. Burnt Keira Knightley. Burnt bad baby- truth's a bitch though aint it? Hungry anyone? Hope you like u're actors/writers/directors well done cause Moriarty got a cook off goin' on!
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No, really, she's NOT HOT. She's a clone. But then again...at least she's not 13.
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Oct 15, 2005 9:25:46 PM CDT
after reading all these REAL reviews, including Mori's, one
by white owl
I'm actually scared to see this movie. Scared to see how shitty it really is. I know now by hearsay that Domino isn't worth the $10, that's a waste. But... is the waste worth it? Is it worth sitting through a terrible movie just to prove to yourself that it really is a terrible movie? In effect making your ten bucks worth it? I've been scared to see movies before, at a young age, and the movies were horror flicks. But never for a legitimately sucky movie have I been frightened.
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I HATED "Man On Fire," but enjoyed "Domino" for what it was. Moriarty does make some good points, though. Still, it was definitely worth the $6.50, just because it was so fucking crazy and Keira gave me a hard-on the entire time.
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Using storytelling as the cornerstone of your critique is cutting and refreshing. Yet another instance of inane bullshit passing for a "towering work of genius". I have nine bucks set aside for the next thing that comes out with your name on it.
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For not accepting the money that the other reviewers of this site did. I pray for their intelligence that they were paid, at least.
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Uusually most duds manage to crawl their way to the high teens or low twenties, but this crap is really stuck in its sinkhole. I think Harry and only two other people loved this movie.
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...Look at the end of the day arguing about whether Tony Scott's style is effective or non-effective really is irrelevant. My personal opinion is that I like what he does for cinema. Now I'm not comparing the level of the guys and their importance to their craft but I wonder how many people complained about Picasso and the use of his medium? Just a thought. Now Tony Scott has a very unique style that's all his own...The inverse of this is an argument that can be levelled at Quentin Tarantino who rips off every movie he can from the 70's, puts them together and suddenly HE's the genius. And before you all get over excited and start bombarding me with hate mail I do think QT is a fantastic 'performance' director but in every other respect all he really does is recycle stuff really well. He's kind of like the P. Diddy of film. In my humble opinion. Much like my other favourite directors David Fincher & Darren Aronofsky at least you can tell a Tony Scott film just by watching a scene and that, to me, signals a director that has a very strong particular style.
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's only decent asset is her well toned stomach. Other than that...well, she can't act, she's got an average face, and she's got a sort of anorexic look about her." Evil White Man - you are fucking high. "Average Face" ? She's farking fabulous, and if you don't think so, you may want to consider the possibility that you are a homosexual. I mean, I certainly don't think she's a great actress, but the fact every time I see her I want to put my penis inside her makes up for her flawed technique and somewhat screechy delivery.
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Quite simply because Harry's reviews cannot be trusted. I vowed to never trust another review Harry did when he gave a good review to that vomitous piece of crap, Van Helsing. Harry
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Why all the venomous hate for Keira? I don't think she's that bad - and not because I want to do the wild thing with her - I'm a lady who likes men - exactly the kind of breed who would ordinarily hate a Keira. I assume most people posting here will not have seen/enjoyed Pride & Prejudice, but I thought she did well in it. Domino, I'm sure, is a piece of crap - I'm not going to waste my money finding out after Moriarty's excellent review - but I can't understand the amount of hate for the girl! I'd rather watch her than Paris Hilton and friends.
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So? Did the real Domino Harvey? Didn't I read somewhere that DH gave up a modelling career to go off bounty hunting?
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http://www.fileplanet.com/157500/150000/fileinfo/King-Kong-Demo
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Thats all I got bitches. Fuck me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I was hoping to disagree but I saw this horrible movie tonight and I am willing to testify under oath that Moriarty's review is completely dead on. I don't blame Keira Knightley so much (she would've been fine with a real director) and I disagree with the part at the end where he acts like Man On Fire is not an abomination against cinema, Jesus, etc. But otherwise I'm afraid he's right about every last point, especially the part where Tony Scott "has lost his motherfucking mind."
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Oct 17, 2005 1:58:31 AM CDT
Anyone else reminded of the derivative shitfest that was "Spun"?
by burnhollywood
Consider: They both ripped off better, more well-done movies (Spun: Trainspotting. Domino: Pulp Fiction) and tried to cover up their crap scripts with technical mastrubation. They both featured Mena Suvari and Mickey Rourke. Finally, they both featured their "heroes" doing something so cruel and stupid that it made it impossible to sympathize with them for the rest of the movie: in Spun, when Jason Schwarzman leaves a girl helplessly tied to a bed for days (and we're supposed to give a shit that the dork is dropped by his girlfriend. Awww.) and in Domino, when Choco blows off some poor bastard's arm with a shotgun because of a garbled cell phone call that dumb bitch Domino doesn't bother to confirm or reason out the necessity of. Oh yeah...both movies sucked ass too. Save your money.
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... her portrayal in the film DID NOT identify her as a lesbian and implied she was heterosexual - when she wasn't. Can anyone confirm or deny this?
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Got this from www.afterellen.com, I guess they would know. Not that there's anything wrong with that ...
TOPIC: DOMINO
From: Leda, UK, September 26
I'm writing to ask if you are going to review the upcoming film Domino, loosely based on the life of Domino Harvey, model-tuned-bounty hunter and starring Keira Knightley. I do note that you only write about openly gay or bisexual women and her sexuality appears to be just one of the many mysteries surrounding Domino Harvey but maybe you know something I don't...
Online there seems to be frequent mention of Harvey as lesbian, implying that her sexuality was well know, but there are conflicting stances in the print media, with different publications all variously claiming that she was straight, lesbian or bisexual.
Many thanks for a fab website, I particularly enjoy the coverage of British tv and films that crop up pleasingly regularly.
Editor's response: As far as I can tell from my own research, the evidence seems to point to Domino Harvey not being gay, since the source of all of the gay claims about her appears to be a single tabloid article printed early this year, that was then picked up by other publications and reprinted. The claims made by the tabloid were publicly refuted by Harvey after they were published, and were also denied again by Harvey's mother and her manager shortly after her death. Regardless, Domino is definitely not gay in the movie, so we wouldn't cover the film on AfterEllen.com even if she was gay in real life. But Keira Knightley kicking ass could still be fun to watch!
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I can't quite figure out what people are discussing. He's a hack; I knew it after seeing The Hunger and BHC2 proved it. 20 years later this is still open for debate? His latest mess is front page news? I just don't get it apparently. I must be out of the loop.
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Since when is the guy who made Cabin Fever any type of power base in Hollywood right now? You have to be joking around
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Harry AND Drew posting scathing reviews of shitty movies in the same weekend! As a long-time ('97) reader, glad to see you guys got your balls out of the jar on top of the refrigerator...at least for one weekend. Now if Quint could only get some help with the "breaking news/spy reports" thing...
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Hm. You're actually the first person I've read that states Richard Kelly was the main writer, Mori. I'll take your word for it; he wouldn't be the first writer who does much better with his own material than he does with outside work.
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I have several things to address:
1. Is it really necessary for some of the people on this site to be so hostile? I've been coming here for some time and I read most talkback (I rarely post) and see some really vicious remarks. Is it impossible to respect others for their opinions? Perhaps there are a lot of younger people that lack the maturity to post without completely disrespecting others? I'm not talking about respectfully disagreeing, I'm talking about calling someone a fuckwad.
2. With regard to calling Tony Scott good because he's the only "unique director out there." Just because some is unique, doesn't necessarily mean he's good. It just means he's different.
3. I think Harry has a serious conflict of interest by posting reveiews. He accepts advertising money from studios that produce the movies he reviews and he knows people in the industry that he doesn't want to offend. It is dishonest and confusing to the readers who come to get an idea of whether they really want to see a particular movie or not (which in this day and age of obcenely high ticket prices is almost a necessity).
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As far as the advertising, there are movie ads in most places that review movies. Newspapers, entertainment magazines, Ebert & Roeper, etc. Also, there have been at least a handful of incidents where Harry tore the shit out of a movie while also running its banner ad. And he still gets the ads so I'm guessing the studios who pay for them either don't know or don't care or both. I think the point of those ads is not to convince you it's good but to brainwash you into thinking it is the big movie for that week so you should see it despite knowing for sure that it is not good. Do you think anybody above 14 went to The Fog thinking it would be good? Of course not, no fuckin way, but it still made a bunch of money this week. In related news, the world is in the shitter.
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Oct 17, 2005 3:27:39 PM CDT
"One more review for you later today ... for GOODNIGHT AND GOOD
by miami mofo
Still waitin' for that one, Moriarty.
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Oct 18, 2005 8:29:16 AM CDT
I didn`t think Man on Fire was that terribly good either...
by chien_sale
It never resonated with me. All the Washington vengeance-punishing methods were not really particuarly impressive either. It seemed to want to be something but that thing was already clich
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"Tony Scott, you have long since used up your get out of jail free card. Your time is up. You're 86ed. I'm sorry sir, I'm going to have to ask you to leave. Your garbage is no longer welcome on our screens."
Amen.
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"Have any of you noticed that in EVERY photo of her she has her mouth slightly open. She looks like a fucking zombie."
Yes yes yes. It bugs the shit out of me. I can't remember seeing a single frame of celluloid that she's inhabited where she isn't doing that stupid chin-jutting pout. I can't takes it no more. I refuse to watch any future movies that have you in them, Knightly. You hear that? YOU JUST LOST A CUSTOMER! -
Right, after seeing this flick, from now on I only trust Moriarty's reviews. He's right on the money with this one. (unlike Harry). The only thing I'd add is that as well as Mickey Rourke and Edgar Ramirez, any preformance by Christopher Walken is perhaps worth the ticket price.
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Oh, If only I'd listened to Moriarty... I saw this last Saturday, and after reading Knowles' and Quint's reviews of Domino, I felt comfortable going in that I would probably really like this movie... after all, tehy did, right? Wrong. I should have listened to Moriarty's review. It would have saved me the pain of having this film sodomize me for 2+ hours with a diesel-powered anal invader wrapped in constantina wire... I have to confess, I liked Man On Fire... really. It wasn't Denzel at his finest, granted, but it was still a fun flick for me. However, in Domino, Tony Scott's visual "flair", and I'm using that term loosely, just annoyed me to no end. All the hyper-kinetic shots, and the various washed-out looking shots just didn't do it for me this time.
Then there was the acting, or the lack of it... really, I think that Mickey Rourke had the best part in the whole film... Kiera Knightly plain sucked. there's no other way to say it. I felt nothing at all for her character, even when she was getting it on with Choco... teh porn flick rourke's character was watching in the hotel room was better...
Then there was teh whole mescaline trip angle... Ok, I can understand setting up something that ends up being a dream or nto real in a movie. that's fine. I can even handle it when the film makes you think one thing, then shows that what you thought happened didn't happen... But in this film, it felt like every 40 minutes, they were backtracking and saying, oh 30 minutes that you just watched, didin't happen the way you saw it... Here's what actually happened..." that's just inexcusable... Look at films like Ocean's Eleven. they used the same "what you thought happened actually went like this" formula, but they got it right.
there was no soundtrack to speak of... Or rather, it wasn't memorable in the least. and lastly, and this is just my own opinion, the language was a bit much for my taste... hearing "F this", "F that", "F you", "GD this", etc. every other sentence just jars my nerves. IMHO, it's the sign of a lazy screenwriter to use taht much profanity. What you couldn't actually come up with real dialogue, so you thought it would be fun to have your characters surse like sailors to try adn distract us from everything else that's wrong in this film? fah. no thanks. I rate this as just below Erin brockovich in terms of language.
So, bottom line, if I can save ANYONE the cost of a movie ticket, DON'T go see this movie.. go see History of Violence, or Doom, or ANYTHING else... That way, your time will not be wasted as mine was.
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-- after watching the DVD -- that Domino still sucks.
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