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Newest BATMAN rumor: Batman to face off against... Batman?

Ahoy, squirts! Quint here with the newest rumor to circulate about The Joker in the BATMAN BEGINS. It's popped up on Dark Horizons that none other than Michael Keaton is now in the running for The Joker. This is a splendid idea... however, I'm not totally buying it. We got this email, too, but to me it sounded like a regurgitation of our own talkback on the Lachy Hulme in the running article from almost a month ago, so I didn't run it.

The talkback was posted by "YackBacker" on September 20th at 07:22:10AM CST and stated "Batman... you're my... DENSITY, uhhh destiny!" Body being: "I'm cool with Glover. Michael Keaton would also be fucking inspired." There may have been a mention of this idea before that that I missed, but there it is.

Like I said, I love the idea of Keaton as The Joker. Love it quite a bit, actually, but keep in mind this is a big, mega fat rumor that very well may have started in our own den of sin. What do you folks think of this rumor?



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  • Oct. 13, 2005, 3:34 a.m. CST

    beetlejuice almost is The Joker

    by ALUCINOR11

    That would be pretty sweet. I think Crispin Glover and him would be a fair duo to battle it out for The Joker.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 3:35 a.m. CST

    Anyone else think this would be kinda distracting?

    by eg4190

    I mean, like more distracting than Jack Nicholson.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 3:36 a.m. CST

    Chris Rock

    by Domi'sInnerChild

    Keaton is too old and fat.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 3:37 a.m. CST

    He's be good

    by kuryakin

    And he does seem to have that kind of craziness that would make the Joker scary rather than funny but it seems too much of an in-joke to cast him. Don't they want to distance themselves from the Burton films? If he hadn't played Batman so memorably he would have been perfect. Doubt it will happen

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 3:41 a.m. CST

    by Tommy West

    Bettney will be joker, hes the only one whos enough an unknown but a good actor to do the part justice.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 3:43 a.m. CST

    I Think It's Shit On All Counts OR... Beetlejuice as The Jok

    by jollydwarf

    "Who, me?!"

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 3:50 a.m. CST

    Jack was the calm and cool Joker

    by ALUCINOR11

    Now we need the skinny, whirmy, nuts as fuck joker. I would say Matthew Lillard might make a good Joker if I was convinced he could dramatically act whatsoever. Freddy Prince won't be in the movie so I guess that cancels that.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 3:58 a.m. CST

    TOLD ALL YALL

    by BrainFart

    i called it from the moment they announced batman begins. everyone just said "nah dude". "nah dude" indeed. But my second choice has to be johnny knoxville

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 4 a.m. CST

    Ain't gonna happen...

    by Kamikaze_Jones

    Nolan's too smart to set up this distracting little pitfall. Good as Keaton is, most people will still just remember him as that "other" Batman, which'll throw the whole thing off. Personally, I thought this story was going to be about the rumors running on Batman on Film, which speculate that the villainS (yes, plural) in this flick are going to be two new guys, a mobster and an evil billionaire (think evil Bruce Wayne), as well as the Joker and a british arms dealer named...Oswald Cobblepot. That's right, bitches, the motherfuckin' penguin. The rumor sounds solid, so I'm holding out hope for that one.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 4:04 a.m. CST

    Distracting?? Anyone else think this is brilliant

    by DannyOcean01

    I like Glover- the Joker was both maniacal and hideously calm in his homicidal tendencies. And Glover can do that. But, as long Keaton isn't too hammy he'd be just perfect. I can see him as a Kelly Jones type Joker. God this would be soooo good if it's true.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 4:15 a.m. CST

    ummm yeah.....

    by ipolo

    really great idea......but keaton is almost 20 years older than bale. plus as stated on a million different sites, don't cast an established, household name to be mr j. because you end up getting that actor "acting"like the joker. i say this is bull.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 4:18 a.m. CST

    You want inspired casting....

    by Drunken Fugitive

    Carrot Top.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 4:21 a.m. CST

    Sure, why not?

    by kintar0

    Couldn't suck much more than Batman Begins.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 4:23 a.m. CST

    but..

    by ipolo

    if this fucker could act he would look like a awesome joker: dj qualls http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/dreamworks_skg/gladiator/dj_qualls/gladiatorpre.jpg

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 4:24 a.m. CST

    dj qualls

    by ipolo

    http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/dreamworks_skg/gladiator/dj_qualls/gladiatorpre.jpg

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 4:25 a.m. CST

    As long as Nolan directs, he could cast Pauly Shore as the Joker

    by Giant Fish

    But seriously, although I'm sure Keaton would be interesting, I'd rather see someone younger, leaner and meaner in the role.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 4:31 a.m. CST

    Denis Leary as The Joker!!!!!!!!!!

    by Shermdawg

    Nuff said. Nuff said.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 4:42 a.m. CST

    jerry sienfield

    by ipolo

    as the jewker

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 4:57 a.m. CST

    Michael Caine IS the joker!

    by Holodigm

    i'd like to see nolan pull that shit off

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 5:04 a.m. CST

    WARNER BROS EXECS!!! Listen to the Geeks: Will Arnett *IS* The

    by Tall_Boy

    Oh. Good. Well, I

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 5:05 a.m. CST

    Keaton would be a good Joker...

    by Sam Raimi's Car

    But for Dark Knight Returns they should get Jack back. I want to see old men fighting in a fairground goddammit!

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 5:08 a.m. CST

    by Sam Raimi's Car

    also we need someone like Nolan to do Watchmen.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 5:17 a.m. CST

    I agree. Its not going to happen.

    by Thirteen 13

    We are going to go to have to endure about 5-10 more casting rumors on the joker before we get the official announcement. And like with all other speculation, once we get the official announcment it will be nowhere near any of the rumors. I'm confident though that who gets chosen for the role will be a good choice.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 5:19 a.m. CST

    How about an old idea?

    by The Game Master

    I agree that Keaton would be great if we was younger and if he wasn't connected with the "old" Batman films. The franchise has been renewed. Let's keep it that way. However, someone else from the other Batman series might be good, because he was never used: He may be a little too old now, but Burton's second choice for Batman after Jack was Tim Curry. Just imagining him smile like the devil makes me think he'd be great. Plus, while Joker does indeed have to be lean and mean, like a young lunatic, he also has to be a criminal mastermind, something that doesn't sound too believable in someone really young. It's a contradiction in the character's design (blasphemy, I know). Tim Curry is someone whose very facial and body structure lends himself to seeming "young but aged" at the same time, with the difference made up by Tim's incredible acting ability (especially for weirdos). I think *he* could pull off seeming young but also lending an air of believability as to his "having been around long enough to become a top criminal" while at the same time possessing the spark of youth for Joker's physical mannerisms. Rant over.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 5:23 a.m. CST

    Actually Tim Curry would be a good choice.

    by Thirteen 13

    I havent heard that yet until now. Thats food for thought.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 5:26 a.m. CST

    Onto other casting...

    by ALUCINOR11

    Sawyer from LOST as GAMBIT fucking perfect

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 5:27 a.m. CST

    Of course Tim Curry has a bit of previous...

    by Zino

    ...as he played none other than Pennywise the Clown in IT. Not much of a leap from that to the Joker. However I think he would go the Jack Nicholson route with the character and ham it up, which probably wouldn't fit in Nolan's Gotham.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 5:29 a.m. CST

    Steve Harvey is in the running too...

    by stlfilmwire

    I also here that Jane Fonda is up for the roll of Mr. Freeze.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 5:39 a.m. CST

    Wow. so far this is shaping up to be a decent talkback

    by Thirteen 13

    Nobody has screamed "FIRST!!!!". "SECOND!!!!!", nobody has said "Fuck this movie!!!!", or declared that Star Wars will own my ass, no attempts to morph it into a Serenity talkback, nobody figured out a way to compare this to how much they hate George Bush, ect. ect. ect....so far so god. It won't last.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 5:59 a.m. CST

    Tim Roth is the best choice for Joker.

    by jimmy_009

    And everyone knows it.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 6:12 a.m. CST

    Holy Irony Batman!

    by HarryBlackPotter

    This is so ironic! Back in 1988, When Tim Burton first sat down with Michael Keaton with the script for Batman, Keaton assumed it was to discuss the role of the Joker after he had played a very Joker-like character i.e. BeetleJuice. Now wouldn't that be somehting if the original caped crusader becomes the New Joker! I think it would be fantastic! A truly inspired casting idea! Make it so!!!!

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 6:15 a.m. CST

    Best casting news yet!

    by DeskOfSteel

    You've got to go with this casting of the Joker. It would be the first juicey role he's had in years.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 6:21 a.m. CST

    How is this "inspired"?

    by I Dunno

    Yeah, he played Batman before. I get it. But other than the gimmicky kitch of that, he's got nothing that indicates he'd be a good Joker. Even if they wanted a Beetlejuice type Joker, which I hope they don't, those days are far behind Keaton. Anyway, this story's about as newsworthy as the 20 Bond rumors per month that have been coming out the last few years.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 6:25 a.m. CST

    Mark Hamill damn it,

    by Gungan Slayer

    I still say Mark Hamill.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 6:36 a.m. CST

    Wow, I believe this was a suggestion by one talkbacker which I t

    by TheGinger Twit

    And I love the original Batman. i hope this happens!!

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 6:38 a.m. CST

    inspired.............

    by liljuniorbrown

    But a big ass rumor.Keaton has been named as the next villan for a couple of franchises.No kidding, i've heard he is JiggSaw in the next Punisher Film and even during casting for Spiderman 3 i read where he is definitely playing the role of Eddie Brock. Now we know they can't all be true but give the man some credit he could be a real good Joker and i totaly agree with the other poster,as long as Nolan's directing you could have Chris Kataan play the role and it would still own ass. Let me throw one out there ,Christian Slater. Didn't people call him "the next Jack" for a while? That was about ten police cases ago,speaking of police cases.... Robert Downey Jr,inspired casting?

  • Sean Penn for The Joker!!!

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 6:51 a.m. CST

    Justin Theroux

    by Trevor Goodchild

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 6:52 a.m. CST

    I haven't been able to get to Dark Horizons for months?

    by TodayzSpecial

    any explanations?

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 6:59 a.m. CST

    Ive been having the same trouble TodayzSpecial

    by KID AB

    It might have something to do with the computer servers or something.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 7:09 a.m. CST

    That'd be sweet.

    by Anna Valerious

    Though Mr. Jennifer Connely would be better.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 7:14 a.m. CST

    um...

    by blackthought

    DENZEL WASHINGTON!

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 7:28 a.m. CST

    I can get into Dark Horizons just fine.

    by I Dunno

    That's where I read this story yesterday.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 7:31 a.m. CST

    I guess he's not too old yet

    by 007-11

    I don't buy it. Someone is just fucking with all of us on this. I don't doubt that he would do it. What I doubt is someone really considering this.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 7:33 a.m. CST

    Keaton is one of the worst actors I've ever seen.

    by Uncle Stan

    Adam West was a more believable Batman.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 7:52 a.m. CST

    Tim Burton For Joker!

    by IAmMrMonkey

    C'mon - the guys a freakjob and he'd be brilliant as the Joker. Plus you've still got the connection to the original Batman movies. Wunderbar!

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 7:52 a.m. CST

    The people who cast Hollywood movies should be beaten!

    by Orionsangels

    Hey will smith for wild wild west! right

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 7:53 a.m. CST

    Smokey IS the Bandit

    by jamawalk

    they should go for someone who's mostly unknown... to americans. Steve Coogan would be fucking top notch. Imagine infusing a little Alan Partdridge into the Joker? AHA! Jurrasic Park.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 7:53 a.m. CST

    William Defoe as the Joker!

    by Orionsangels

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 7:59 a.m. CST

    no.. no... that would be crap

    by mansep

    it would make the film too self-referencing and would undo all the work of Nolan's first film. i personally don't think this rumour is true... but if it is, then they've lost the plot.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 8:03 a.m. CST

    Actually the best Joker, I think, would be Johnny Dep. Think: a

    by Orbots Commander

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 8:04 a.m. CST

    Come on! The pitch by Nolan was only less than a week ago

    by moviemaniac-7

    At this point I don't take any news about this serious. On the other hand, it would be cool, but I think it's fanboy dreaming.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 8:06 a.m. CST

    Well, as long as we're throwing crazy names around...

    by L.H.Puttgrass

    I say, "BEN STEIN as THE JOKER!!" Yeah baby, can you feel that! I know you can feel that one! "Batmmaaaaaaan! I'm trying to some fucking crimes here. Would you just LEAVE!! NOOOOWWWW!!" He'd be soooo awesome. (wink wink nudge nudge)

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 8:19 a.m. CST

    Aaawwwwww Maaaannnnnnnnnn!!!!

    by L.H.Puttgrass

    I'm trying to DO some fucking crimes here.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 8:26 a.m. CST

    Keaton as the joker...

    by Wee Willie

    would actually make me interested in seeing a batman movie.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 8:30 a.m. CST

    SOMEONE PLEASE ANSWER THIS: I love Batman Begins. BUT I have alw

    by silentbobafett2

    I mean it! So this isn't a rant! Please some one just explain why Burtons Batmans are hated? I have read Samm Hamm's original! And apart from the third act - Robin! It didn't really stray THAT much. I mean whats wrong with it? Its Dark, tough and CRAZY! Thats Batman baby! So no crazy rants - like I've done LOL! - Just a straight answer: WHY DO PEOPLE NOT LIKE BURTON'S FIRST BATMAN?

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 8:32 a.m. CST

    Christian Bale for The Joker!!!!

    by Cpt Kirks 2pay

    Seriously, if he weren't playing Batman he'd make a fucking unfogettable Joker! Just think American Psycho and twist and turn it around until it came out with the intended Joker portrayal. Christian Bale. You can cast him in ANYTHING. As long as it's not his face in a plaster on. He couldn't breath in that cast, and you know that wouldn't be a good thing. He couldn't say his lines for a start. Or could breath at all, and that wouldn't be a good thing you know, for his career. Would it? Eh? Errrr, hey Get Rich or Die Trying. That would be great if you tell me who Rich is, what he looks like, where he is? I've still got to Get Carter. I gotta get why Sylvester Stallone did it, or why he didn't wanta piece of that hot jailbait, Rachel Leigh Cook, himself? Anyway, what do I get if I get Rich? Do I get money? From him? How much? Is Rich rich himself?

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 8:41 a.m. CST

    The Joker should be Dave Chapelle

    by hiperaktiv

    Im the Joker, bitch. Hold my drink, bitch.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 8:48 a.m. CST

    Keaton

    by SID 8.0

    He would be a good choice I hadn't even thought of him in that role. I remember during the first movie Tim Burton said it's the arched eyebrows of Nicholson and Keaton that add to the character. There are a lot good choices for this role. My heart is with Mark Hamill we all know he could do this in his sleep and kick major ass. The other is Vincent "The Nightfox" Cassell. Batman Killing Joke comic you would think they had a picture of Cassell for the cover.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 8:49 a.m. CST

    a Female cast as the Joker?

    by Sinestro

    How about casting a Female in the part? Kinda like mixing Joker/Harly Quinn together. Talk amongst yourselves.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 8:49 a.m. CST

    Michael Keaton as the Joker would be KICK ASS

    by ScreamingPenis

    i think it's a great idea. the part where he freaked out in Vicky Vale's apartment in the last Batman showed how crazy he can be.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 8:56 a.m. CST

    My vote is in: Keaton

    by squidman

    He can do the wild-eyed thing. Also, strictly from a marketing standpoint (I know, I can't believe I'm saying this either), it would be a HUGE push for the Batman sequel.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 9:06 a.m. CST

    I second the motion for Christian Bale

    by I Dunno

    Modern FX can get past the minor hurdle of one actor playing two major roles. The Joker was always a slightly skewed mirror image of Batman. They're both psychotics with a flair for the dramatic. The minor difference is one is brooding and malevalent looking but saves lives and the other is cheerful and comical looking but destroys them. So make the Joker a mirror image of Batman, with a distorted, mutilated smile and the same manic intensity Bale gave with American Psycho. Then throw in a Fight Club twist at the end where the Joker was just a compartmentalized section of Bruce Wayne's psyche. Deep.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 9:09 a.m. CST

    by Pi-Rate

    <<Jason David Frank as the Joker by greatn He&#39;s the green ranger. He&#39;s the fucking Green Ranger(and White, Red, and Black as well)! Is there anything more badass than that? << The trouble is, Jason David Frank can&#39;t act worth SHIT! He&#39;s a master at the whole martial arts thing, but he&#39;d be a JOKE, not the Joker.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 9:11 a.m. CST

    by Pi-Rate

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 9:13 a.m. CST

    Mark Hamill as The Joker

    by Pi-Rate

    The man Re-defined the role in The Animated Series, and hell - he&#39;s old enough and has a leathery face WITHOUT the makeup so his odd grin will be natural!

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 9:16 a.m. CST

    Jerry Seinfeld as the Joker!

    by ZeroCorpse

    "So Batman... Did you ever notice..." "Hey Batman, what&#39;s the deal with..."

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 9:17 a.m. CST

    I&#39;m cool with Keaton

    by John-Locke

    Cassel & Quaid would also be good.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 9:20 a.m. CST

    Jeff Bridges as "The Dude" version of The Joker. Oh, and silentb

    by www.valiens.com

    I agree. I loved both Burton movies. I can see why hardcore Batman fans might not though. The primary "problem" is that Burton focuses more on the bad guys than on Batman. If Nicholson hadn&#39;t been there to chew up the scenery that movie would have bombed because it lives or dies on his performance. Batman by Burton&#39;s vision is a dark, cartoonish action comedy. Batman Begins is realistic and gritty. It&#39;s plausible! I think some of the fans prefer that dark realism. But as we all know, Joel Schumacher gave us the best rendition of Batman by turning Gotham into Lite Brite and giving our heroes nipples. The End. Oh and forget Jeff Bridges--Jeff Goldblum for stuttering Joker!

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 9:24 a.m. CST

    and the Joker should be.....

    by Packin_Beef

    Friggin&#39; Danny Bonaduce! A psychopath in real life oughta play the Joker! Have you seen his show? Perfect!

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 9:30 a.m. CST

    Vince McMahon would have to be the Joker.

    by Babba-Booey

    It&#39;s so dead on it would be typecasting!

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 9:40 a.m. CST

    This is a hideous idea

    by Brock Samson

    I don&#39;t think Quint ever met an idea he didn&#39;t love. Who honestly thinks that casting the original movie Batman to fight the new movie Batman would be anything other than a cheap stunt?

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 9:43 a.m. CST

    That sounds like the sort of idea the British tabloids like to m

    by rev_skarekroe

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 9:45 a.m. CST

    *cough*LEARY*cough*

    by Shermdawg

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 9:53 a.m. CST

    This rumor&#39;s bogus...(***spoiler for those who haven&#39;t s

    by RetroActive

    Keaton would never get the part. Plus, when he&#39;s being goofy...he&#39;d overact it. Glover will never be the Joker either. Quite frankly, nothing has been approved for this movie yet, so why are we even specualting on this BS? The producer said that the card at the end of the movie was homage paid to the first film. I don&#39;t totally buy that...but I could see them going in another direction. And why not? It doesn&#39;t have to be the Joker. Though I&#39;d love it as much as anything else...why not go in a different direction like Begins? It could be great without the Joker.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 9:58 a.m. CST

    Steve Miller is the Joker!!!

    by Atticus Finch

    Then you could use the song by The Steve Miller Band.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 10:03 a.m. CST

    by rabban

    ...tim curry is too fat...glover is too big and keaton has batman helmet baldness...the best joker would be dj qualls...dj qualls with some acting lessons.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 10:14 a.m. CST

    i agree

    by calami-shami

    nuts as fuck lol

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 10:15 a.m. CST

    Second on WIll Arnett

    by bifevo

    It&#39;s a long shot and it would never happen, but he does so well in Arrested Development with scenes that are funny, but slightly creepy. I think he&#39;d be perfect.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 10:24 a.m. CST

    Adrien Brody!

    by Mel's Rockpile

    I&#39;ve said it before, and I&#39;ll say it again: he&#39;s your man!

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 10:50 a.m. CST

    Star Wars Episode III will own your ass!

    by jesuschrist

    Not rent. Own.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 10:54 a.m. CST

    Andy Serkis as the Joker

    by Dolmes

    Job done!

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 11:01 a.m. CST

    keaton would be great

    by reckni

    I think he&#39;s a better choice than any of the other actors mentioned. F Glover and his high heels.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 11:07 a.m. CST

    Brody!

    by samuraisix

    Crispin Glover would be good, too. What about Jason lee, minus the Earl lbs?

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 11:08 a.m. CST

    LAND OF THE DEAD SUCKED!!!

    by Rcamacho2278

    I just saw this piece of shit and what the fuck was romero thinking? Zombies are people too?? FUCK THAT.! and wtf is with keaton being joker. Hollywood sure is small huh? theres nobody else out there that HASNT been in a batman movie that would be a better role? How about that guy who played BONER in growing pains. sheeeeet.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 11:12 a.m. CST

    I think they should go with a younger joker like Brody or Glover

    by jrbarker

    and with the tall lanky look

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 11:13 a.m. CST

    Even if it&#39;s a rumor, Keaton is an inspired choice. Other n

    by R.C. the "Wise"

    Jude Law, Hugo Weaving, Vincent Cassell (if he could lose the french accent)Paul Bettany, and of course Andy Dick...j/k.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 11:19 a.m. CST

    The Case For Keaton

    by GreatWhiteNoise

    1) Accomplished actor with decent range, and we know he can do seriously-unglued thing. 2) The Beetlejuice parallel is a very appropriate one. 3) One of the best (and perhaps only) subtexts of the comics carried into the first Burton movie was how much Batman and the Joker are alike on some levels. I thought Keaton&#39;s biggest strength in playing Batman (and thus overcoming many of the original naysayers of that bit of casting) was his ability to express some of Bruce Wayne&#39;s underlying pathos, even within the confines of (apologies, Harry) Sam Hamm&#39;s atrocious script. I think he&#39;d convey that through the Joker just fine. My only misgiving is that Keaton&#39;s not quite the right body type -- even Beetlejuice, I recall, made one or two self-referential fat jokes. I was looking more forward to the gangly, wiry Joker we all know and love from some of the graphic novels. But if that&#39;s the biggest strike against Keaton, I&#39;m still smiling.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 11:40 a.m. CST

    How about the guy who plays Buster on Arrested Development?

    by barryap

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 11:42 a.m. CST

    They should get Joel Schulmacher to play the Joker

    by SifoDyasJr.

    And then let Batman pummel him for two hours straight--no stunt doubles and no fight choreography. I&#39;d pay to see that.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 11:43 a.m. CST

    Rosie O&#39;Donnell can play the Joker!

    by Doom II

    It&#39;s about as ridiculous as casting an overweight Nicholson as the Joker in 1989. In fact, there&#39;s not a whole lot about the Burton Batman I DO like (and this is coming from a huge fan of 70&#39;s Nicholson, Michael Keaton and Tim Burton). I do however and always will think that Prince sucks balls from California to Minnesota and he made a bad film even worse. How many of you get nostalgic when you hear "The Batdance" playing on the radio...oh yeah, no station plays The Batdance because it is a HORRIBLE abomination of a song. Man do I not like Batman &#39;89!

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 11:47 a.m. CST

    Doom II....

    by LordMadhammer

    OMFG Rosie O&#39;Donnell as the Joker would scare me to death.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 12:04 p.m. CST

    You want a psycho Joker?

    by KingKirby

    Well, how about Roger Ebert&#39;s least favorite actor/director, Vincent Gallo? That boy has psychotic criminal written all over him!

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 12:08 p.m. CST

    Why not Vincent Cassell?

    by Canada's King

    Sure, the accent is something he&#39;d have to work on, but British Bale got over that, but out of all the actors mentioned, he has the closest face to The Joker. And to the folks that mentioned Tony Hale...Bale vs. Hale....

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 12:10 p.m. CST

    Mark Hammil is the ONLY Joker

    by spikebad666

    And Micheal Keaton will only reprise his role as the old Bruce Wayne in the Batman Beyond movie that they will eventually make.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 12:16 p.m. CST

    THIRD on Will Arnett

    by chickychow

    "Bruuuce... C&#39;mon!!"

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 12:22 p.m. CST

    jokerjokerjoker

    by yabory

    i like hugo weaving, he has the right face for it, perfect actually, can someone photoshop him to look like mr. j? but i do dig the keaton rumour, that would be great. though he&#39;s a bit old ain&#39;t he? and we could get adam west to play the mayor of gotham or something...

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 12:44 p.m. CST

    Rosie O&#39;Donnell can play the Joker!

    by Tal111

    Good choice however she has already signed on to play Gotham City in the next film. I&#39;m excited!

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 12:48 p.m. CST

    keaton as joker would be the only thing that&#39;d get me to see

    by Chief Redcock

    i didn&#39;t much care for batman begins. who are we kidding? the first two burton films could kick the snot out of begins anyday... when i heard that the next film would feature the joker, my response was a big fat yawn... but with keaton, a new bat costume, and a darker approach to the material (yes, batman begins was not dark enough), this could work.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 12:52 p.m. CST

    I reckon......

    by killing joker

    It will be Adrien Brody

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 12:54 p.m. CST

    Peter Greene

    by Marvin Tikvah

    Not sure if most people remember him Some films are "Permanant Midnight" and the biggest would be The bad guy in "The Mask" (jim carrey thing not the giant headed thing) Anyway he is a sociopathic baddass.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 12:56 p.m. CST

    chris rock&#39;d be cool, too

    by Chief Redcock

    actually

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 12:57 p.m. CST

    Anyone else agree that Jack Nicholson&#39;s Joker is overrated?

    by odysseus

    He was merely the most colorful element of an otherwise drab and dead-feeling movie.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 12:58 p.m. CST

    Why Keaton is a good choice

    by tjrmusic

    Keaton would be a very good choice. Especially if they follow the story elements from Alan Moore&#39;s "The Killing Joke". I belive that Keaton himself was once a stand up comic, so that would even add more irony to the story. Keaton is very good in dramatic roles and wouldn&#39;t ham it up under Nolan&#39;s direction. He would internalize it. I could see him as the failed comedian who loses everything (Wife, child, future) in one day and then just flips out. One of the problems with a lot of the posts that I read regarding the casting of famous comic book characters is that people tend to only foucs on the physicality of the actor. A good physical match can be important and helpfull but in the end an actors appearance can be changed and the actors ability to do the role become more important

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 12:59 p.m. CST

    though i adore the animated series...

    by Chief Redcock

    mask of the phantasm is crap that almost everyone has forgotten.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 1:03 p.m. CST

    I think...

    by Capt. Spaulding

    It should be Hugh Laurie. Think about it, he&#39;s tall, angular features and anyone who&#39;s ever seen "Blackadder" knows he can act goofy as hell, and anyone who&#39;s seen "House" knows he can be snide and/or menacing. So, I say Hugh Laurie.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 1:18 p.m. CST

    Why people hate Batman 89

    by tjrmusic

    This is in response to silentbobafett2: I don&#39;t hate the first (Burton) Batman film. But it is a very flawed movie. There are great scenes in it, but those scenes never cohesively come together to form a solid story thread. In the end the film seems disjointed.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 1:25 p.m. CST

    HA! Lachy Hulme exposed as a self-promotor for the Joker and not

    by riskebiz

    The only way Lachy Hulme could EVER be get the part of the Joker is if Barbara Broccoli were the Producer and he was her close personal friend.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 1:38 p.m. CST

    Alan Tudyk for the Joker

    by darth jobu

    Im thinking he needs the work. (Serenity had to come into this somewhere, eh?

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 1:44 p.m. CST

    My two cents...

    by Kamikaze_Jones

    Personally, I&#39;d like to see Tim Roth as the Joker, but I put my money on it ending up being Paul Bettany. I&#39;m actually a bit worried, though, because the rumors I&#39;ve read have mentioned that Nolan&#39;s making the Joker A)A secondary villain, a la Scarecrow (and there&#39;s four of &#39;em this time, so that worries me) and B) They&#39;re not going to make him look like the classic comic joker. I dug the whole realism deal in Batman Begins and all, but I&#39;m gonna be fucking pissed if they dull down the maniacal awesomeness that is the Joker. Purple suit and whiteface, man...

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 1:59 p.m. CST

    Mark Hamill would be good, but

    by koosbane

    How about Neil Patrick Harris. When he went nuts in "Undercover Brother", oh yeah, I could see a little Joker there.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 2:09 p.m. CST

    Michael Wincott as the Joker!

    by DOGSOUP

    Seriously, this guy need a role this meaty for him. The gravelly voice is perfect for the world already established by Nolan.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 2:11 p.m. CST

    They&#39;re going to overdo the realism thing with the Joker.

    by I Dunno

    The obsession with realism almost ruined the first movie. The contradiction of trying to make a comic book movie for grown-ups was lost on the filmmakers and they forgot they were making a comic book movie. It was just a rich vigilante movie. I think they&#39;re going to water down the Joker just as badly. to the point where he&#39;s just a crazy guy in makeup.

  • in the pale moonlight.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 2:23 p.m. CST

    Ahh, but who will play...

    by garofellatio

    the Joker&#39;s boner?

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 2:49 p.m. CST

    There&#39;s plenty of time to cast a Joker...

    by dr_buggerlugs

    ...whatever happens, we ain&#39;t getting this baby for another 3 years yet :( How about Steve Zahn as a possibly Joker? Why? Cos Daddy Day Care FUCKING ROCKED MY WORLD!

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 3:01 p.m. CST

    Marilyn Manson

    by Blood T Cat

    he&#39;s at least half a homo already. He should be Mr. J

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 3:07 p.m. CST

    batman &#39;89 is much better than the fanboys admit

    by Chief Redcock

    i rewatched it on dvd a few months ago. some scenes may feel a bit 80s today, but for the most part it holds up very well. how can you deride the script.... watch it again, there are SO MANY great lines, just some killer dialogue in that movie. as harry mentioned, tarantino called sam hamm&#39;s original script one of the best scripts he&#39;s ever read... and i think the story they filmed, more than most if not all of the comic book movies that i can think of, captures these characters in a way that truly makes them seem like archtypes. classic. this is the one thing than nolan&#39;s spare approach was missing... i&#39;m sorry, but his film will never be seen as a classic, it just doesn&#39;t capture the sense of gothic romance that makes batman batman. pauline kael was right to rave about batman &#39;89 (she concentrated mostly on the performances, but she loved the film), it&#39;s a great film that people will always watch. i agree that, like any burton film, it&#39;s a bit disjointed (there&#39;s too much joker, which hurts the flow), but there&#39;s still a lot to admire, and it never has the stench of mediocrity that lingers over batman begins.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 3:09 p.m. CST

    interesting...

    by Lazarus Long

    There would be something seriously perverse about a black actor playing The Joker in whiteface, but I don&#39;t think Christopher Nolan would be the type of director to try that. I could see it coming from Tim Burton but not from him. There are plenty of people capable of doing something really interesting with this role, but Nolan hasn&#39;t given us any curveballs. Bale was an obvious choice for Batman/Wayne. Same with Caine and Alfred. Gary Oldman might seem like a stretch but he&#39;s done that low key thing before. I do think of all the suggestions thus far, Vincent Cassell would be the best choice simply because you can&#39;t really guess what he&#39;s going to bring. Mark Hamill was great, but we&#39;ve already SEEN it. And I know we could all do an impression of Keaton as the Joker which would be prestty close to what he will deliver. Last, Cassell&#39;s just got that FACE.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 3:10 p.m. CST

    It will be Tim Roth

    by jimmy_009

    He&#39;s a total badass villain and can play anything. And he has the British connection (look at all the brits Nolan (a brit) cast). It will be Tim Roth if there is a god above.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 3:15 p.m. CST

    Katie Holmes as the Joker!

    by fattyaaron

    just putting it out there...

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 3:22 p.m. CST

    Keaton for Joker!

    by phuctup_thug

    1984 starred John Hurt as Winston Smith, the guy who gets fucked over by "Big Brother." In V FOR VENDETTA they cast John Hurt to play the role of "Big Brother." That&#39;s a fuckin GREAT idea and i think it might be good to go the same route with the casting of Micheal Keaton as The Joker.......that is if The Joker is EVEN IN the new script...

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 3:33 p.m. CST

    new era of batman camp

    by VoodooV

    You know, I&#39;m ever hopeful, but now we&#39;re talking about BB sequels here. This is where we find out if this new start stays strong and stays with its gritty &#39;attempt to approximate realism&#39; attitude. so in BB, they asked, and then answered the question of what Batman would be like were he a real person. which was a refreshing change from the camp that was the 60s series and ultimately Burton&#39;s vision. So now they gotta ask the same question with the Joker: How are they going to depict this character in a way that doesn&#39;t make you roll your eyes. Even though Joker is insane, they have to make him human and in some way...believable. If they change the batmobile in almost every movie like they did in the last series of movies, then I&#39;ll pass. they need to keep a lot of this stuff constant and not &#39;update&#39; it with every rehash. Batman isn&#39;t a fashion victim, he&#39;s a detective and a crimefighter.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 3:35 p.m. CST

    Bruce Campbell should be The Joker. Why am I the first one here

    by Heywood Jablowme

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 3:40 p.m. CST

    Danny Huston as the Joker...

    by drewATX

    a relative unknown, great actor, and just look at that smile ;o)

  • nobody can top jack nicholson&#39;s joker..EVER. "give me the mirror, THE MIRROR!{looks at mirror} hahahahahahahahahahahaha!! priceless. but for the "next batman origin"... i&#39;d go with bruce campbell or alan tudyk.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 3:41 p.m. CST

    Bad Idea

    by fiester

    I just thing he&#39;s too old. Go for someone closer to Bale&#39;s age.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 3:48 p.m. CST

    whoever said Dennis Leary...

    by wash

    ...remind me to never ask for your opinion on anything else.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 3:48 p.m. CST

    Keaton would be a brilliant choice, on so many levels...

    by blue1622

    I&#39;d love to see that happen. Of all the actors from the first four films, Keaton and Walken are the only ones i&#39;d love to see in this series. Cast Keaton,and if not...Christopher Eccleston or Crispin Glover.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 3:49 p.m. CST

    oh, and capt. spaulding...

    by jig98

    i don&#39;t think hugh laurie is the right choice and i don&#39;t think he&#39;s menacing on &#39;house&#39; i think he&#39;s good but he already played an animated charector turned live action bad guy. [jasper in 101 dalmations]

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 3:52 p.m. CST

    by VoodooV

    tudyk would be awesome to see at the role. I think he could pull off that mix of comedy and deadly earnestness that the Joker would require

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 4 p.m. CST

    Now for bad news: Daniel Craig is James Bond. This will be ann

    by Cletus Van Damme

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 4:01 p.m. CST

    ...and Denis Leary in the DC Universe could be NO ONE else but G

    by Cletus Van Damme

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 4:05 p.m. CST

    New Spider-Man 3 scoop!!! Sort of....

    by Orbots Commander

    It was just a throwaway line from a Q&A interview in this past Sunday&#39;s New York Times magazine; in an interview with indie movie director Noah Baumbach regarding his new flick THE SQUID AND THE WHALE, the interviewer and interviewee briefly mention a scene from his movie which shot in the American Museum of Natural History and say in the same sentence that the new Spider-Man movie was also shooting there. That&#39;s about it. Who knows if it was for a major action sequence or for a brief scene.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 4:15 p.m. CST

    The Johnny Depp idea is inspired!

    by eraser_x

    I would pay to see Depp and Bale in the same movie!

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 4:21 p.m. CST

    My first reaction is that it&#39;s the wrong move. But then I t

    by JDanielP

    I like Michael Keaton and I really don&#39;t understand why he isn&#39;t in more movies these days. I mean, at least give the guy some small supporting character roles. As to him being the Joker, I&#39;m okay with it as long as filmmakers continue to distance this series from the previous films. Obviously, you wouldn&#39;t expect Keaton to pull much (performance) from Jack&#39;s interpretation. Like most people here, I have my own favorites. And those pick&#39;s would depend on the interpretation of the character. For me, when I invision a "Killing Joke" (graphic album/novel) style Joker or a 70&#39;s-Steve Englehart-comic book series style Joker, I first think of Alan Cumming. And I think of how Reese Witherspoon would be the perfect compliment as Harley Quinn. So, ...I think what this all boils down to is the interpretation of the character and the direction the movie takes. It&#39;s kind of like, "What comes first? The chicken or the egg?" But in this case, it&#39;s "What comes first? The character or the actor?" It&#39;s obvious that whomever gets the part will have a great impact on the result of the film. If Keaton gets the role, then he should give the character some real darkness. Let&#39;s just hope that Nolan and Goyer do likewise.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 4:25 p.m. CST

    No Keaton for Joker

    by The Killer-Goat

    He&#39;s hilarious, and could pull off the loony-bin slapstick very well, and he might even be able to add some of the depth to keep Joker from being one-dimensional in his motivations. But that&#39;s not all Joker is. I think the best non-print Joker portrayals were in the animated series with Hamill&#39;s voice, where they kept upping the homicidal edge with each new season. However even then they didn&#39;t really address his past or develop his character much more than his constant obsession with Batman. Keaton would work as an older version of Joker, but this being "Batman Begins", we need a thin, spry-looking character and a darker, meaner profile. Crispin Glover can draw a good, slow, evil grin, with the twinkling eyes to match. Not as evil as I would like, but if he has the range to go from devilish smirk to low chuckle to maniacal, howling giggles, then that&#39;s a good step in the right direction. Failing that, I think he would make a great Riddler as well. Riddler was treated too much like a second-rate Joker, thanks to Jim Carrey and his over-the-top shenanigans. But Riddler has some depth to his cunning and foresight. It&#39;s all a matter of pride and respect for Riddler, to outsmart Bats, not simply to come up with crazier plots than Joker.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 4:26 p.m. CST

    DJ Qualls as the Joker!

    by Batutta

    Just wanted to add to the convo.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 4:28 p.m. CST

    Only one person can do this part: KEANU!

    by oceansized

    Just making sure everyone&#39;s paying attention.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 4:28 p.m. CST

    Chief RC "Batman Begins stinks of mediocracy?"

    by Lukecash

    Hardly sir, Batman Begins was exactly what the fans wanted, and what many movie viewers wanted...an serioius examination of a suuperhero that was still fun.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 4:42 p.m. CST

    Marilyn Manson as the Joker

    by pockybot

    I said it back in 1997 and I&#39;ll say it again: Marilyn Manson as the Joker. No Crispin Glover, no Michael Keaton...I can&#39;t think of anyone who would truly embody what the role needs. And I aint even a fan of him.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 4:58 p.m. CST

    anyone ever see Batman: Dead End?

    by VoodooV

    its a fan film on theforce.net They need to take a cue from that portrayal. psychotic, insane laughing, but deadly as fuck...not comedy relief

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 5:03 p.m. CST

    Exclusive!...

    by TheKinsman

    AICN breaks news of Michael Keaton as Joker casting via talkback!!! Let it be know that AICN should hold all bragging rights over this piece of news.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 5:06 p.m. CST

    Gary Coleman IS The Joker!!!!

    by polyh3dron

    well, either him or Michael Clarke Duncan.. whaddaya say?

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 5:13 p.m. CST

    by gamesix

    Folks, come to terms, the Joker will be played by Paul Bettany. Don&#39;t know why? Go buy Gangster No. 1 from Amazon for $5, then come back and tell me he&#39;s not the joker. The Keaton stuff is BS for the very reasons that, I believe, the first or second poster put up. Restart. RESTART. Why take a step back? It just wouldn&#39;t jive with what we&#39;ve seen w/Nolan & Co. They&#39;re pretty predictable, I think, and Bettany is right up their alley. So please, stop with these casting rumors, and move on to something that&#39;s actually up in the air. Michael Keaton?...

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 5:19 p.m. CST

    moviemack IS The Joker!!

    by MasterWhedon

    Maniacal rants? CHECK! Doomsday wishes for Gotham? CHECK! Batman&#39;s TRUE archnemesis? CHECK! Ladies and gents, we have a winner. .........................But if not for the &#39;mack, I still love Paul Bettany, Andy Serkis or Adrien Brody (sorry Burl).

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 5:40 p.m. CST

    Will Arnett! "hey baatmann...

    by iamnicksaicnsn

    CUCK! CUH CUCK CUH CUCK CUH CUCK!!!" But seriously, Keaton could work, and I&#39;m sure he&#39;d do well, and it might work well to really pound in the fact that this is a totally different universe than Burton and Schumacher... but it&#39;s not going to happen. Like the about poster said, this is a restart, Nolan will want an unknown, or mostly unknown. I still say Mark Hamill or Crispin Glover though. MH already has the laugh, and Crispin is just fucking brazillian nuts. There are a couple other I would accept, but they have to have the laugh, THEY HAVE TO HAVE THE FUCKING LAUGH. Tim Roth, for that reason, probably couldn&#39;t do it, because all his laughs so far don&#39;t get where a true Joker laugh would need to go. Jude Law, as I&#39;ve said before, would be a fine Riddler, a fantastic Riddler... but NOT THE JOKER.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 5:41 p.m. CST

    Vote for Your next Joker!

    by Dark_Silence

    Keaton, Penn, Betanny, Hamill or Golver! Follow the link below! http://www.fi-sci.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=254&Itemid=64

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 5:48 p.m. CST

    Wow, Keaton as the Joker is COOL!!!

    by TheJon

    This is a really cool idea! Didn&#39;t Keaton not want to do any more Batman movies because the bad guys always seemed to steal the show? Well now he&#39;d have his chance to steal the show. This is as cool as having Sean Connery be the next villian in a James Bond flick (I wish that would happen too). ...just wishful thinking probably.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 5:52 p.m. CST

    I WAS THE GUY THAT SAID DENIS LEARY, GAWD DAMMIT, AND I&#39;ll

    by Shermdawg

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 5:54 p.m. CST

    Although KingKirby&#39;s suggestion for Vincent Gallo is quite i

    by Shermdawg

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 5:55 p.m. CST

    Orlando Bloom! He&#39;s JOKER! Oh wait! Russell Crowe! Oh wait!

    by Psalmolive

    I personally think Julianne Moore or Jodie Foster would make a good Joker.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 5:59 p.m. CST

    Adrien Brody doesn&#39;t have the laugh...

    by iamnicksaicnsn

    it would appear. From what I&#39;ve seen, I could handle Bettany, but wouldn&#39;t REALLY judge until the movie comes out. Andy Serkis is crazy, but not skinny enough, live I&#39;ve said before, he could be a good Penguin.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 6:17 p.m. CST

    The reason why Burton&#39;s Batman world gets trashed

    by Meremoth

    Is not based on anything Burton really did. The first Batman movie is really a good movie. Returns is OK. It gets kinda boring and corny after awhile but I like Devito as the Penguin. Forever was a fun movie but Val Kilmer just doesn&#39;t strike me as a good Batman. the real reason Burton&#39;s Batman is because of Batman and Robin. It also doesn&#39;t help that in all four movies the Villains are cooler than Batman. I mean in the Burton universe they get about the same time and Bruce definitly broodes mor than the villains. At least in Nolans Batman most of the audience generally likes Batman as opposed to his villains. There are other reasons too but I think this is the most of it.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 6:25 p.m. CST

    Tarantino as the Joker would be hilarious.

    by Batutta

    If he could act at all it would be worth considering, but he&#39;s been given a fair shot and has proved to be a mediocre actor at best.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 6:28 p.m. CST

    Man I been sayin&#39; Keaton should have been the Joker in the 8

    by thecomedian

    Burton only got offered Batman because Beetlejuice was such a smash hit. Michael Keaton, the breakout sensation of Night Shift who out cooled the Fonze, the great comedy actor of Mr. Mom, Gung Ho and Johnny Dangerously? That guy would have been a kick ass Joker. And Burton could have even cast his other Beetlejuice star Alec Baldwin as Batman. But Peter Guber and Jon Peters just had to do the same old Hollywood circle jerk bullshit and give the whole movie to Jack. I guess that would be pretty balsy to cast Michael Keaton now 16 years later. This fanboy Joker casting is fun to read because despite all the dumb obvious "duuuuh, Crispin Glover/Christopher Eccleston/Perri Farrell/Marilyn Manson is PERFECT because he&#39;s skinny" drivel and "Mark Hamill is the one true Joker because he did some mediocre voice work 12 years ago" idiocy, there are the truely inspired bizarre choices that reveal more about the taste of fanboys than anything else. So here&#39;s my quirky Joker casting short list: Slimmed down Paul Giamatti(you know he&#39;d kill), Slimmed down Andy Serkis(Really I think Giamatti would be better but Andy Serkis still has something to prove in Hollywood so he might knock it out of the park), Steve Carell(yes, he&#39;s "hot" right now but I think he&#39;d have the best transformation from a loser, sad sack wannabe comedian to a homicidal media whore.), and ....TOM KENNY(yes, that&#39;s right. The voice Spongebob Squarepants. That bits where he plays the pirate during the Spongebob marathons. There&#39;s just something really creepy about him. And the Joker should be CREEPY above all else. Funny at times, CREEPY most of the time. He&#39;s a clown who kills people. Most little kids are scared shitless of clowns. Like John Wayne Gacy and Mick Jagger rolled into one. That&#39;s The Joker.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 6:33 p.m. CST

    greatn.....You are the only one who liked The Batdance.

    by Doom II

    Well, you and Kevin Smith. He has brought many times up how much he loves Batman &#39;89 as well as Prince. WTF was a modern day "pop" artist&#39;s music doing in an otherwise timeless, drab 1930ish gothic film setting? It made no sense then and makes even less now! Too bad NIN weren&#39;t approached about lending some tracks. Prince?!!!Ahhhh!

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 6:47 p.m. CST

    The thing about Bettany

    by AwesomeBillFunk

    How similar is this &#39;evil albino&#39; he will portray in the Da Vinci code? -Which will no doubt be a blockbuster movie. Is there going to be a danger of people being distracted by the similarities? I could see people being pulled out of the movie and turned off by it. "Hey...isn&#39;t that the Albino from the Da Vinci code?... Why&#39;s the Albino from the DaVinci code fighting Batman?"

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 7:04 p.m. CST

    YA BUNCH OF LOSERS!!!!!!!! YOU&#39;RE WORKING WITH A PROFESSIONA

    by Doc_Strange

    "NICE FUCKIN&#39; MODEL, HONK, HONK!!" Now imagine Keaton doing that as the Joker, would be priceless.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 7:06 p.m. CST

    Michael Clarke Duncan?

    by MajorOcelot

    THAT would be interesting! I think I am in love with the Denis Leary idea though. Anybody seen JUDGMENT NIGHT? Add a bit more insanity to that and you got the Joker.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 7:07 p.m. CST

    Jake Busey

    by nyjet

    Why the hell not?

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 7:10 p.m. CST

    well ...

    by MajorOcelot

    After reading thecomedian&#39;s post I&#39;m equally in love with the Giamatti idea. There are too many good choices out there, let&#39;s just hope they pick one of them.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 8:06 p.m. CST

    I&#39;m actually going with Paul Bettany for now

    by Terry_1978

    If you&#39;ve seen him, you know why.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 8:08 p.m. CST

    Damn!

    by Nice Marmot

    Was I the only one that thought they were talking about Adam West?

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 8:15 p.m. CST

    And I find out AFTER I posted that Uncle Stan brought up Adam We

    by Nice Marmot

    Damn you Uncle Stan!!!!

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 8:16 p.m. CST

    ooh, ooh, pick me!

    by Dr. Magnifico

    I think they should go as creepy as humanly possible and get the cockadoodledoo kid from Gummo for the Joker. Oh, and Batman Returns is one of the greatest superhero movies ever made. Amen.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 8:21 p.m. CST

    Hmm...Carell...

    by Kamikaze_Jones

    Now THERE&#39;S a fuckin&#39; idea. I know he&#39;s got it in him to pull off creepy and we all know he&#39;s got funny down to a science, so who knows? Won&#39;t happen, but a nice "what if" to be sure.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 8:47 p.m. CST

    How many Joker casting threads have there been?

    by I Dunno

    This is worse than Bond. I wish they&#39;d cast it already just to stop all the speculation and everyone&#39;s great idea.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 9:10 p.m. CST

    Iain FUCKING Glen

    by Cracker_Thompson

    http://imdb.com/name/nm0322513/

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 9:27 p.m. CST

    prince is ok, but danny elfman rules the earth when it comes to

    by Chief Redcock

    the little bells, or whatever, that play over the warner brothers logo before the opening credits of batman &#39;89 send shivers down my spine... in a good way... the score fits the film PERFECTLY

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 9:33 p.m. CST

    Tim Roth

    by jimmy_009

    Just had to add that this low in the talkback. Tim Roth is THE best choice for the Joker, hands down. He&#39;ll get it, just wait and see.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 9:38 p.m. CST

    Crispin Glover = Joker

    by VenomFangX

    Crispin Glover = Joker Everyone else = wannabe&#39;s

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 10:08 p.m. CST

    I like this idea

    by Neosamurai85

    And yes... it has been on the web (AND THIS SITE) for quite a while. Peace.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 10:24 p.m. CST

    Though age would perhaps be a factor... and a reply to lots of d

    by Neosamurai85

    That was the problem with Jack as the Joker the last go around. This is the beginning. If he didn&#39;t kill Batman&#39;s perents there is no point in him not being young like Bruce. Tim Curry would have the same problem as Keaton, but it would have been interesting in the early years. Tim Burton strikes me as more of a Mad Hatter. Price 89 still sneaks it&#39;s way into my head about once every two months at least. Since we rarely see Nolan in the fights becauase he&#39;s moving so fast and the camera cuts... yeah he could just play both... he&#39;d have been able to play damn near every villian in the batman universe dead on when you think about it... though I&#39;d rather not see him as catwoman... wait... after Berry... nevermind... cast him as the whole fucking cast. You know the making of would be gold. "He lost 40lbs! He gained 80lbs! He&#39;s taking hormone pills! He&#39;s licking himself... to pictures of Iggy Pop." Yeah... that&#39;s right Nolen... we remember your roots... and we wont let you live them down. Peace.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 10:37 p.m. CST

    Arsenio Hall IS the Joker!

    by Blabbermouse

    Seriously, take a look at that long, narrow face, that pointy chin! Plus, if they cast Hall, you&#39;d have this weird mindf**k of a black guy trapped in whiteface once he turned into the Joker!

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 10:37 p.m. CST

    Listen to me because I am always right

    by Darth Biggitty

    Jake Gyllenhal is the best candidate to play the joker hands down. I&#39;m telling you people that this cat can do psychotic. Watch his mood swings in Donnie Darko and tell me how right I am in this choice. It&#39;s OK to admit that Darth Biggitty knows all.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 10:41 p.m. CST

    why dont we have a female joker

    by Krangelus

    throwin idea&#39;s out there.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 10:43 p.m. CST

    CRISPIN GLOVER! CRISPIN GLOVER! CRISPIN GLOVER!

    by Nymbus7

    BTW... Is anybody still reading posts this far down the line?

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 10:45 p.m. CST

    I am!

    by Blabbermouse

    n/t

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 10:53 p.m. CST

    Yes, the Will Arrnet Joker Brigade grows in power, WB

    by Tall_Boy

    "Old Bats! He likes the honey! He never got to see my bee business." (but, actually, I do agree in a serious way that with the crazy, insane mood swings G.O.B. goes through on Arrested Development could very easily be applied to the Joker. Really, honest.)

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 11:06 p.m. CST

    I can&#39;t believe people think this is "inspired" or a good id

    by I Dunno

    The only reason for Keaton would be as a clever tie in to Burton&#39;s films and that&#39;s the last thing they should want. Everyone loved Nicholson but it was distracting. It was Nicholson slumming it in a comic book movie and no one saw beyond that. It&#39;s like when they have movie stars doing the voices in a Pixar movie. You don&#39;t see a character. You picture George Clooney sitting in a sound booth wih headphones on, lending his voice to a cartoon animal that looks vaguely like him. HA! Clever. They need to get an unknown or a character actor, not a gimmick.

  • Oct. 13, 2005, 11:48 p.m. CST

    Yeah, I&#39;d take Tom Kenny

    by iamnicksaicnsn

    he&#39;s American, and a voice-smith. He&#39;d work quite well. And FUCK YOU, you Hamill hater. Watch Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker, and you&#39;ll see just how fucking good Mark Hamill embodied that character. Mark Hamill&#39;s the man.

  • Oct. 14, 2005, 12:28 a.m. CST

    what about john kerry?

    by Chief Redcock

    he has the right face, and he needs the work

  • Oct. 14, 2005, 1:13 a.m. CST

    Willem Dafoe

    by jedimast3r

    Would be a good choice were he not a parallel sort of character in Spiderman. The mirror scene from Spidey 1 demonstrates that he can be a fluctuating sort of crazy that whoever plays the Joker would have to be - maniacal/sappy stand up humor/cold-ruthless. The only thing is, the quality that must be nailed in this role is not an easy one. The Joker should make us cringe with disgust at his atrocities, and its gonna take a creepy person to pull this off. I say give Crispin Glover his shot.

  • Oct. 14, 2005, 1:19 a.m. CST

    I kind of wished they would use baddies not used yet or at least

    by andrew coleman

    Joker and Penguin I really can&#39;t see done any other way. Riddler in Returns was a watered down Joker. So the Riddler or Two Face would be a lot better. I wouldn&#39;t mind Clay Face or Mad Hatter either. With Sandman coming in Spider-man 3 Clay Face will never happen. Also I would like in Batman Begins 2 if they had Scare Crow return so he can go out a little more gracefully than recieving a taser to the face by Katie Holmes.

  • Oct. 14, 2005, 1:35 a.m. CST

    "BATMAN....BATMAN....WOULD SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME, WHY A MAN DRE

    by zathras34

    THIS WAS THE BEST ONE LINER OF ALL THE BATMAN FILMS..(Live action) Nobody beats mark hammil....which is why I hope he gets the role of joker...he&#39;s just born for it...

  • Oct. 14, 2005, 5:23 a.m. CST

    Did I mention, Denis Leary should be The Joker?

    by Shermdawg

  • Oct. 14, 2005, 7:31 a.m. CST

    ah fuck it if the Glover dummies are gonna shout out their guys

    by thecomedian

    Yah see, the guy to play the Joker should be a virtual unknown who can really take the part and fly it off into the sky. Just like the Joker actually does in the Killing Joke. This needs to be a breakout role. We need to see a guy go from being a nobody loser into a scene stealing creepy maniac. A name won&#39;t do that. Crispin Glover is "creepy thin man". He&#39;s not the Joker. Cristopher Eccleston is Doctor Who and just because he can grin and say "FANTASTIC" doesn&#39;t mean he&#39;s the Joker either. Tom Kenny IS The Joker. Most average joes and janes with kids may have a whole house full Spongebob crap but they have no idea who Tom Kenny is. And Tom Kenny&#39;s real life career as a journeyman comic who got passed up for SNL for Spade and Rob Schnider, a guy who&#39;s been on fly by night here today gone tomorrow sketch shows like The Edge and Mr. Show. He can bring that kind of experience into the part. TOM KENNY IS THE JOKER....AND HE&#39;S SKINNY(for all you short sighted nincompoops) Here read his bio http://www.nndb.com/people/301/000026223/. TOM KENNY IS THE JOKER. So if studio monkeys are actually reading these threads(with the casting of Bale as Batman I suspect they do read them) I TOO will moronically shout and shake my fist at the wind. TOM KENNY IS THE JOKER!

  • Oct. 14, 2005, 7:50 a.m. CST

    AND SINCE I&#39;M HERE STANDING ON MY SOAPBOX...

    by thecomedian

    No matter who they cast as the Joker, if the writer&#39;s don&#39;t "get" him then it will just be another horribly cheesy pop culture whoring "funny" villain in the tradition the Schumaker films. And it&#39;s soooooo easy to do just lazilly do the Joker that way since it worked so well for Jack. Yes the Joker should be funny sometimes but CREEPY most of the time. Though, I actually laughed along with Batman and the Joker at the "two guys are in a lunatic asylum" joke almost every time I read it because that&#39;s the quintessential truth between those two characters. It would be cool to see that scene in a movie eventhough the studio monkeys would probably cut it out.

  • Oct. 14, 2005, 7:54 a.m. CST

    Got ALL the scoops right here--

    by Laserbrain

    Hey Harry, I heard Seann William Scott is maybe playing the Joker, from a friend who heard some dude talking about it on a street corner on Sunset Boulevard. That&#39;s right- straight from the source- Hollywood. I also have it on very good authority that Christian Bale WILL be back as Batman/Bruce Wayne. And also, I don&#39;t know if you&#39;ve seen this but there&#39;s a new never before seen mind-blowing Kong picture. Your readers will shit your pants- here&#39;s the link__________http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=21541 __________Oh, if you use this call me "LaserBrain".

  • Oct. 14, 2005, 8:34 a.m. CST

    Keaton would be a HUGE mistake!!

    by Edison

    I like the Andy Serkis idea, but PLEASE PLEASE not Keaton. We finally got a good Batman movie and they&#39;re going to flush it all away with stunt casting??

  • After Beetljuice, Burton signed for Batman with the stipulation of Keaton as Joker...Keaton signed while they were searching for a Bruce Wayne, (Baldwin was one being considered), when Nicholson got wind of the project. He wanted the Joker part, and Burton said he&#39;d walk if they dropped Keaton. So Keaton became Bats...if Burton was directing Batman today he&#39;d make the same demand for Depp...and it will be Adrian Brody.

  • Oct. 14, 2005, 8:51 a.m. CST

    by Neaera

    You people seriously think Micheal-has-been-keaton will distract attention away from BALE, FREEMAN, CAINE, OLDMAN??? are you mad? what was the last thing keaton was in? oh yeah, Herbie:full loaded... he could be quite creepy as the Joker, i think it sounds like a good idea, no WAY he was detract form the HERO of the film.

  • Oct. 14, 2005, 8:52 a.m. CST

    by Neaera

    i can&#39;t spell, thats supposed to be no way he would detract from...

  • Oct. 14, 2005, 11:05 a.m. CST

    Keaton would be a mistake.

    by Childe Roland

    I love the guy. In virtually everything he&#39;s done. And he could have nailed this part as a younger man. But he&#39;s not a younger man anymore and he&#39;s been Batman twice. In fact, he was the best Batman before Bale, who often seems to be channeling Keaton in Begins. Save Keaton and use him after Bale&#39;s contract expires to do the Dark Knight Returns movie. He&#39;ll be just about the right age and has already demonstrated he can whip himself into shape when necessary. Hell, let him play both Bats and the Joketr for that. For this, go with a younger, lesser known as the Joker. I would say Brody if it weren&#39;t for Kong (which will automatically make him overexposed like Viggo was shortly after the Rings trilogy came out). If Glover played it relatively straight (for him) it would be excellent, but I just don&#39;t know if he has that capacity. Lillard&#39;s looks would be perfect, but he can&#39;t act. Sean Penn would be good, but I think he&#39;s too old. Kevin Bacon could play yougner and looks the part, but that would really kind of be a joke and would ruin the six degrees game (Kevin was in Batman with Morgan Freeman who was in every other movie with anyone else Kevin Bacon might not have worked with yet), so that&#39;s out. I think an inspired unknown is what&#39;s required here.

  • Oct. 14, 2005, 11:05 a.m. CST

    Lachey Hulme!!!

    by JaeZion

    I&#39;m personally not buying the whole"who is this guy" distinction of Hulme from inside WB. Hulme worked for WB and their sudsidiary, ATARI, for a year on, what was it, oh yeah: The Matrix Revolutions and Enter the Matrix. Anyone who&#39;s buying that Hulme is a nobody is a fool.

  • Oct. 14, 2005, 11:08 a.m. CST

    The Wimbledon wimp as Joker?

    by JaeZion

    Come on. How is this guy the frontrunner? How would Warner&#39;s, Nolan, and his wife pull off such inspired casting for the frist one and then cast Paul Bettany.

  • Oct. 14, 2005, 11:13 a.m. CST

    Jim Carrey better than Michael Keaton...

    by JaeZion

    ...and I thought we were going for an actor becoming the Joker, seeing the Joker on-screen, instead of more distracting casting , a la Nicholson, taking away from the narrative. Hulme has the facial structure, the training, comic timing, and no one knows who the hell he is outside of So. Cali. and down under. Nothing but an actor inhabiting a character. Not just a name on a poster.

  • Oct. 14, 2005, 11:14 a.m. CST

    And Carrey...

    by JaeZion

    ...would be a much better Joker than the vast majority of casting ideas that have been bandied about lately. And who can refute it? Anything to be said about why casting Carrey for the role would be a bad idea would be the Keaton reasoning times a thousand.

  • Oct. 14, 2005, 11:23 a.m. CST

    Joker in it for Long Haul?

    by JaeZion

    And that&#39;s the real issue. Assuming that WB isn&#39;t stupid enough to Kill Mr. J. again after only one appearance (ego & id; Neo & Smith; Batman and Joker), then whoever they cast needs to sign on for "the long haul". Nolan repeatedly commenting on how exciting he is at the possibilities of this universe he&#39;s just begun to delve into should make all bat-fans take heart. Think about it. In less than 10 years WB is thinking Bale, Routh, Reynolds, whoever they cast as Wonder Woman, G.L., etc, to be on a soundstage that is the headquarters of the JLA. The don&#39;t, or at the very least shouldn&#39;t, want someone who&#39;s going to say "Now that I&#39;m famous and people know me and I have a career because of this Joker role, I&#39;ll go be a romantic comedy-making sellout" like who&#39;s the dumb blonde? Oh yeah, Kirsten ("Spidey 3 is the last for me!!!") Dunst.

  • Oct. 14, 2005, 11:32 a.m. CST

    Vincent Cassell would be good, too

    by JaeZion

    But I should also say that it&#39;s the first idea other than Hulme that&#39;s made one iota of sense to me. Why? Great actors, mostly unknowns, and most importantly LOOK THE FUCKING PART. Long angular face, anyone? No, I&#39;m wrong. Bettany&#39;s round head and credibility with teen girls make him a jewel. (Um, no.)

  • Oct. 14, 2005, 11:39 a.m. CST

    Both ideas are bad but Carrey&#39;s slightly worse.

    by I Dunno

    First of all, enough of Carrey already. Second, it&#39;s not just a case of being in a previous Batman movie, he was the Riddler, basically a cheap knockoff of the Joker. Anyway, Carrey can&#39;t play scary, unless you count the cable guy but he was more pathetic than anything.

  • Oct. 14, 2005, 11:42 a.m. CST

    Not that I don&#39;t love the man...

    by lindyboy

    but Michael Keaton, while likable in nearly everything (I liked him in "The Squeeze" for godsakes.) is not in my mind, the Joker. Yes there are all sorts of big names whom you could put in this part, but truth be told the REAL daring of this role would be to hire an unknown, someone without baggage who could breakout. I don&#39;t think that&#39;s going to happen of course and won&#39;t complain if the Joker turns out to be Crispin Glover.

  • Oct. 14, 2005, noon CST

    The thing is, Keaton would never do this movie

    by Doc_Strange

    I read somewhere that he&#39;s pretty much through with Batman for all time.

  • Oct. 14, 2005, 12:15 p.m. CST

    keaton sucks

    by captain cranky

    boring..... why make the joker old enough to be christian bales dad ? ed norton or even vince vaughn .

  • Oct. 14, 2005, 1:01 p.m. CST

    THIS JUST IN!!! - Corey Feldman Thinks Corey Feldman Should Pla

    by www.valiens.com

    I&#39;m guessing.

  • Oct. 14, 2005, 1:11 p.m. CST

    As long as it&#39;s a GOOD actor it doesn&#39;t really matter...

    by ComputerGuy68

    Just not Penn (dipshit). Prince music was fine in the flick, so was Elfman, too bad he uses the same music in EVERYTHING he does now. How many times were you looking for the Bat Signal in Spider-Man? That guy needs to retire. Mask of the Phantasm is great and I was reminded of it when I saw Batman Begins. Christopher Eccleston was good as one of the bad guys in 28 Days Later, (the last one who gets killed at the house), he could use the work too

  • Oct. 14, 2005, 1:31 p.m. CST

    lynxpro...

    by thecomedian

    I&#39;ve watched all 13 episodes the new school Doctor Who. Believe me, I&#39;m the biggest fucking Whovian this side of the Atlantic. Eccleston&#39;s work there was awesome especially in the Dalek Episodes and the WWII Eps and shit, well just about every episode of the series. I really hope David Tennant can fill the shoes and that it doesn&#39;t just turn into Doctor Who continuity porn with Sara Jane, K-9 and possibly Tony Head as The Master) coming back next season. I think Christopher Eccleston is an awesome actor. Easily and effortlessly the best Doctor since Tom Baker (though that&#39;s partially because it&#39;s a very similar riff on the character). Still, he&#39;s not creepy or funny enough to play the Joker. He just does righteous indignation very well. Or maybe it&#39;s just that he&#39;s already The Doctor in my mind and if he were cast I&#39;d keep waiting for Billy Piper to show up as Harley(not a bad idea either... but no). Of course to the American public he would be an unknown. I just think he&#39;s TOO serious. All the mugging was when he seemed the least comfortable and one dimentional as the Doctor. Christopher Eccleston is just too bloody serious but that&#39;s just my opinion and you&#39;re equally entitled to yours. Both of our suggestions are still 1,000 times better than Crispin Glover anyday.

  • Oct. 14, 2005, 1:41 p.m. CST

    Why the joker?

    by Aston Lad

    It was cool to see that card at the end of &#39;Begins&#39;, but I&#39;d like them to just leave that battle to our imaginations and pick up with whatever villain Bale takes on AFTER the joker. Having given us the best batman movie since 1992 I&#39;d hate for Warners to start treading on old ground again.

  • Oct. 14, 2005, 1:56 p.m. CST

    aston lad

    by thecomedian

    Because The Joker isn&#39;t just any other Batman villain. He&#39;s THE Batman villain and since they did a pretty good job repairing the mess of the 1st series of movies why not do a GOOD interpretation of The Joker. That&#39;s the problem with Batman &#39;89. It started the stupid "Kill The Villain at the End " shit we&#39;ve seen in Superhero movies up until X-Men. The Joker shoudl be able to comeback as many times as he wants because in the comics he always comes back. There have been 3 Batmans on film since Keaton. There are now 6 James Bonds. A better comparison is that there were 3 Blowfelds.

  • Oct. 14, 2005, 2:44 p.m. CST

    What we need is...

    by Capt. Spaulding

    A twenty-five year-old clone of Peter Cushing. Also, I wish to clairify, I didn&#39;t mean to imply that Hugh Laurie was "menacing" on House, sorry if it came out that way, I was just trying to say that he is capable of not being goofy all the time.

  • Oct. 14, 2005, 3 p.m. CST

    Am I the only one who wanted a new villain?

    by loodabagel

    Well I guess they&#39;re really going to go with the joker for the next movie. What about Two-Face? He desparately needs a remake. He definitely strikes me as a better case for retooling. Still, as long as Roger Corman and Michael Bay don&#39;t double team the directing I can&#39;t really complain.

  • Oct. 14, 2005, 3:10 p.m. CST

    OK lynxpro & thecomedian, Who question for you...

    by ComputerGuy68

    used to watch Who back in the 80&#39;s from Tom Baker to about the end of the other Baker, (the guy everyone hated). Today, I am watching the Series from the beginning, just finished the Sensorites. OK to the question, is there any mention of his Granddaughter in the series after she left in the second series/season? I never knew of her until I saw episode 1 (An unearthly child). And where is a good Dr. Who site to go? And to not hijack this talkback, Batman is cool!!!

  • Oct. 14, 2005, 4:05 p.m. CST

    Jokers, Jokers....

    by zer0cool2k2

    I jumped on the Lachey Hulme bandwagon while watching "Revelations", thinking the whole time "That guy should play the Joker...... Natascha is one hot nun ...... that guy should play the Joker...". Anyway, here&#39;s a suggestion for you out of left field: Rupert Everett. He&#39;s tall, in pretty good shape, and could convey that "Fussiness" (for lack of a better word, that really came out in Dark Knight Returns. Marsters crossed my mind too, but I don&#39;t know if he&#39;s got the physical presence. If I had a time machine, I&#39;d go back 20 years and grab Eric Roberts and Willem Dafoe and bring &#39;em back to fight over the part.

  • Oct. 14, 2005, 4:46 p.m. CST

    Lynxpro and ComputerGuy68...

    by thecomedian

    I&#39;ve got NO PROBLEM WITH HIJACKING THIS TALKBACK IN THE NAME OF DOCTOR WHO FANWANKERY!**Lynxpro**, Yeah they really should put Doctor Who on itunes. It makes sense so that they&#39;ll be able to make a direct profit off of it instead just giving it away to bit torrent pirates like ourselves. Billie Piper has excellent boobs. Though my one sort of annoyance with the current series is sometimes it&#39;s like they should change the name of the show to "Everyone Love Rose Tyler" I mean even the freekin&#39; Dalek fell in love with her. I would love to see Lala Ward come back since she&#39;s aged gracefully enough. You just know they&#39;re gonna bring the Time Lords back and they&#39;re gonna be all "Actually Doctor, we never died. We&#39;ve cloaked ourselves from you on purpose so we could observe you and use you as bait to bring the Daleks out of hidding". Jerks. **ComputerGuy69** Susan (The Doctor&#39;s "Granddaughter") came back in "The Five Doctors" . A lot of hardcore fans debate whether she&#39;s actually his biological grand daughter or just a Gallifreyan kid who came along for the ride and calls him grandfather merely as a title of respect. Though she&#39;s just Gallifreyan and not a Time Lord because they have to go to some sort of academy to become Time Lords and get the phat Tardis and Regeneration hook ups. The best Doctor Who site is the official one http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/. If you go the classic series pages you can get caught up on all the continuity you need.

  • Oct. 14, 2005, 5:28 p.m. CST

    Thanks thecomedian, lynxpro!

    by ComputerGuy68

    Been to the BBC site and Wikipedia sites several times and will check out the gallifreyone.com too. Oh I&#39;ve seen the new Doctor Who as well. Actually was aired here (Canada), but I d/l the whole thing (the Doctor Who Confidential series too)! It&#39;s what got me to go back to the origin of the show. It really is a remarkable show. Whish Chris had stuck around for a few more years... About the whole gay Timelord thing, I kind of got the impression that the Doctor went both ways, especially with this new version!

  • Oct. 14, 2005, 5:54 p.m. CST

    But without her makeup GoatZinger...

    by ComputerGuy68

    would she get any service at the Gotham dept. store?

  • Oct. 14, 2005, 6:04 p.m. CST

    THIS JUST IN: A Playstation Portable has just been confirmed as

    by Psalmolive

    When asked for a comment, the PSP was too busy loading.

  • Oct. 14, 2005, 7:06 p.m. CST

    YackBacker - what are you smoking? I still see a bunch of your

    by ComputerGuy68

    including your Tarantino one.

  • Oct. 14, 2005, 7:35 p.m. CST

    LEARY!!!

    by Shermdawg

    !!!!!!!

  • Oct. 14, 2005, 9 p.m. CST

    NO! To Keaton, Arnett, and Leary

    by Barron34

    Sorry, I don&#39;t like any of them for the Joker. Keaton is stunt-casting, Arnet is uninspired, and Leary is a blue-collar Irishman from Boston that won&#39;t work as the Joker. Crispin Glover, Tim Roth, Christopher Eccleston, all are better choices.

  • I love her...I love her dammit

  • Oct. 14, 2005, 10:02 p.m. CST

    Did somebody say the next Joker was Brian Peppers?

    by crtjester20

    I mean, if he looked that fucked going into the vat of nastiness.. just imagine what the Side B will look like.

  • Oct. 14, 2005, 10:57 p.m. CST

    No Keaton!!!

    by jojo-pimp

    While it is a novel idea, and kinda cool....i really think this rumour is bull shit, cause i really dont think chris nolan or anyone else wants this franchise to be in any way tied to the original franchise.

  • Oct. 14, 2005, 11:41 p.m. CST

    Willem Defoe is the natural choice for the joker. Look at this p

    by Orionsangels

    Ahhh!!! http://dvdmedia.ign.com/dvd/image/WAH_10_1102362204.jpg

  • Oct. 15, 2005, 12:48 a.m. CST

    you know, as a general rule...

    by Chief Redcock

    ...i almost never follow the links pasted in aicn talkbacks. why, oh why, did i have to make an exception in this case? ::shudders and convulses:: you people frighten me...

  • Oct. 15, 2005, 1:50 a.m. CST

    by rabban

    crispin is too tall he has the perfect energy for the joker but the man looks too damn tall...dj qualls looks small,young,and smart...everybody mentioned here is either to strong or too...well...old and stupid.

  • Oct. 15, 2005, 10:12 p.m. CST

    Dino De Laurentis IS the JOKER!

    by WONKABAR

    The Dino was genetically engineered to play the JOKER

  • Oct. 16, 2005, 5:31 a.m. CST

    I&#39;ll say it slowly...

    by Nachokoolaid

  • Oct. 16, 2005, 5:33 a.m. CST

    the joker is...

    by Nachokoolaid

    C H R I S T O P H E R F U C K I N G E C C L E S T O N

  • Oct. 16, 2005, 3:30 p.m. CST

    Where the Hell is Crispen Glover?

    by wash

    shout out to anyone who knows what I&#39;m talking about...

  • Oct. 17, 2005, 3:51 p.m. CST

    Dennis Leary started out plagarizing from Bill Hicks

    by wash

    Fuck that guy and his stupid fireman tv show.

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