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Bateman... I mean Batman and Wolverine to throw hexes at each other'
Y'all know me, know how I earn a livin'. Quint here with a really interesting bit of casting info on Christopher Nolan's next flick, an adaptation of a book by Christopher Priest called THE PRESTIGE. It seems that Nolan is again working with Christian Bale and is pitting him against Hugh Jackman as dueling magicians in turn of the century London. About a month ago it was announced that this project was happening and I have ordered the book. It's sitting firmly at the top of my must read stack and now I'm even more excited about picking it up. With the right material Jackman can be great and we all know that Bale rocks. I think this project could be something special. What about you folks? What do you think?
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This is awesome news. Dueling magicians, Nikolai Tesla, what more could you want in a story! Quint, you're gonna love the book and I couldn't be any happier knowing who's involved with the film.
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I don't need to be told to see this twice. I just hope Bale doesn't make the accent too extreme again like he did in Reign of Fire. He sounded like he was auditioning for Eastenders or something. Hopefully this'll be a starting point for Jackman's post X-men career (Van Helsing is probably best forgotten). And Nolan going period sounds like good news to me.
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Quint, I really hope you don't stick to that introduction. It's really annoying and quite...gay.
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I don't want to see green fireballs shooting out, and then causing castle bricks to crumble. If Nolan, Bale and Jackman gets involved... this movie will churn out to look like the 'serious' version of Paul Anderson's Mortal Kombat. Bale: "Your apathetic lightning spell illuminates me in a way... in a way that-- Kyaaaaaa!!!"
Jackman: "Grrrrr...". The End. -
Is this move officially going ahead, 'cos I'm sick of films being announced and then never happening. Empire film magazine were kings of reporting such news, and skeptical, I am.
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Oct 01, 2005 7:24:28 AM CDT
Okay vanishing posts make my little rant look utterly redundant.
by jackburton
fair enough.
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When I didn't flame anyone, didn't insult anyone, and made what I thought was a fair, well reasoned and well argued point.
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looks like he's officially being considered a troll by the people running this site. Now I've got to ask the question, where were you three years ago?
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Although I wouldn't have thought of these actors in a million years. Ralph Fiennes was my choice as Rupert Angier, but that's me thinking out loud.
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Sounds like it could be amazing...
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I actually like the new intro, since it's classic Quint, and better than "Ahoy, Squirts!" This movie sounds like the type that either goes real good or real bad... but I trust these guys...
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But I love Christian Bale. I hate that. I hate it when someone you really like makes a movie with someone you don't. How do you tolerate one half of it when it's got someone like Hugh Jackman in it? How can Christian carry this guy? I swear. I mean, I thought he was good in "Oklahoma!" when it aired on PBS, but everything else, *pffttt*. He's so *meh*, and Christian is so *sigh*. Do I watch it with one eye shut? Christopher Nolan - check. Christian Bale - check. Hugh Jackman - ?!?!!
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Superman Returns is looking damned butch right now.
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I am unfamiliar with the story. "Dueling magicians" sounds like they will be doing card tricks at each other, or throwing tophats and rabbits. That might be fun actually...
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How does this book compare to Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norrell? They sound pretty similar to me. JS&MN takes place at the turn of the 18th century and involves British magicians enlisted to help fight Napolean, amongst other wacky hi-jinx.
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this is more unneeded than fat albert.
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The characters in the Prestige are "Magicians" not wizards. As in stage magic.
I'm really excited about this, as I got to meet and talk with the author, Christopher Priest at this year's Worldcon, and I heard all about this movie deal there. Believe me, he's hoping the deal goes forward too. He says that the script, while different from his book in many respects, is very much a good adaptation of the story. -
Oct 01, 2005 11:30:27 AM CDT
Fuck yeah! I'm so there. Hell, if all was well in the worl
by r.c. the "wise"
Just sayin
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Oct 01, 2005 11:34:03 AM CDT
How in the hell can you hate on Hugh Jackman? I think Viola may
by r.c. the "wise"
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Oct 01, 2005 11:40:11 AM CDT
Jackman amazes me. Seriously. Watch him hosting the Tony's
by freakemovie
By the way, Jackman turned down Bond.
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...we need Jackman's schedule free until he signs those John Carter contracts!
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This could be an interesting flick. Definitely not run-of-the-mill.
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the more bale, the better!
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Dueling magicians. Stage magicians. Hankies up sleeves and rabbits in hats. Gotta say. Not exciting.
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Oct 01, 2005 1:37:37 PM CDT
"Bateman... I mean Batman and Wolverine to throw hexes at each o
by voice o. reason
Please stop trying to merge two jokes into one headline. You suck at it.
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Is it going to have the big stupid ferris wheel in it? Or did you mean the turn of a different century?
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Need I say more.
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Either way, Hugh kicks ass.
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I even liked Van Helsing. It's a 'turn your brain off' movie, which I can appreciate from time to time.
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...all the people who scream "THIS IS DISNEY SO IT'S GOING TO BE SHIT"? Are we finally past that ridiculous point in our lives?
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But they tried so hard to make a serious and realistic comic book movie that they forgot it was a stupid comic book movie. People who are so hard about that movie remind me of "gamers" who think they're more mature because they play GTA instead of Mario Kart. You're still sitting around playing a video game. Get over yourselves.
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Oct 01, 2005 10:41:53 PM CDT
Or talkbackers who think they're more mature because they ha
by iamjack'suserid
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Oct 01, 2005 10:53:09 PM CDT
Didn't Vincent Price and Boris Karloff do this in "The Raven
by kongmonkey
I think they did.
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Im sorry, I could be wrong but I really don't like the premise of dueling magicians. Now dueling wizards showing of some arcane magic that sounds fun. I mean how do they duel anyway. Hey look I pulled a bigger rabbit out of a smaller hat. Hey I cut this girl into 4 parts not 2.
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First, Nintendo --
Hugh was NO Wolverine to begin with:) AND I agree with you on every level. He's pretty, but... I would NEVER have him back me up in a real bar fight, unless it was the kind where you could watch a bar get shoved up his prettiness. I'm sorry, I hate being cruel, but Hollywood needs to start thinking REAL here. Real, as in a sense where, one FITS the situation. Wolverine is 5 feet 3 inches and 250-270 lbs. The world has a billion+plus charismatic hairy people dwelling on it. There is a motherf-cker out there who fits the bill and I would never, ever want to meet him in a dark alley. Hire that guy. Muscles and all. F-ck the guy who poses for Gillette. Give me an a$$kicker who drinks a six-pack a night. Bale looks like he can fight... only if he was 'directed' well. Batman Begins has the Mr. Madonna edit thing going for it. Why the f-ck didn't Bale RIP some poor bandits ribs out and spit in his face? This IS year ONE isn't it? F-ck that drammatic icon sh-t. Show me Batman when he didn't care about breaking someone's jaw while doing some cool ninja flips.
Meremoth --
Wizards, in the hands of the Chosen One (maybe James Cameron), can actually look cool. Like I've said before... green firballs and broken castle bricks = Mike Bay and helicopters-on-fire-for-no-reason-at-all. Bale should throw a flower daggers at Jackman. Then Jackman's eyes summon veins that turn into rose vines that neutralizes the velocity of the petals (because flowers can persuade other flowers to stop fighting)... then they start talking about identities that should give them the ability to stick on walls like Tobey Macguire. C'mon Hollywood, we are generation-not-stupid... give us something to chew on while we Jack off to our soulmates. -
If he just looks pretty and flies his CG body through mathematically-correct rendered clouds, then this is proof that Hollyboner is losing it. Superman should f-ck his opponents up via my-costume-will-rip-to-shreds-cuz-you're-tougher-than-adamantium and make Dragon Ball Z look like momma's sheet cake recipe. Otherwise, I'd rather go and watch Goku f-ck up some skin-like texture.
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That would kick ass plus magic is cool too. I smell a winner.
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One misplaced word, and look at the shit that Quint has stirred up. They aren't "duelling" magicians, they're feuding rival magicians out to ruin each other because they each think the other has stolen his best illusion. It's not an action movie - it's a mystery/suspense/drama about obsessions and vendettas. I think the Nolans know something about this subject (a little film called Memento), so I think the film's in good hands.
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Or is this another book?
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FROM JACKMAN.."HEY BUB !! WATCH ME DRAW 3 BLADES FROM MY HAT" SNIKT!!!
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if he plays his magician as an evil fratboy
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And if it's as good as that then I say "thumbs up!"
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Jackman? Doesn't seem likely. Have yet to see him attempt evil in a film. Grumpy, yes, evil, no. Sounds like an interesting concept, has anyone read the book? This isn't the Christopher Priest from comics, right?
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You know life is weird The Prestige won the world fantasy award for 1995 but is closer to a SF story than fantasy and Jonathan Strange and Mr Norrell which is a fantasy book won this years Hugo award which imo opinion should only be for SF ....all fucked up ...
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And well done Nintendo. You could have just written "Hi! I'm racist, sexist, homophobic and have no taste!", but it's nice to see people making use of subtext...
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...just read Mark Waid's "origin-revamping" Superman:Birthrite last night and man... did it ever effin' blow chunks. Obviously a Warner Corp-ordered bit of revisionism to try and shoehorn "Smallville" into the comics mythos. Can't really blame Waid, though... ain't his fault & he did try to give it a shot...
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...on Nintendo. Or, better yet, pull his memory cards. We don't want him loading a saved game with all that racist, homophobic, ignorant crap in it. As for this movie, can someone who's read the screenplay let me know if these magicians will be simply very clever stage magicians or will one or both of them acquire access to some kind of Lord of Illusions "real" magic? Because I honestly think I'd prefer the former for a change.
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i wonder what kind of magic was done back in the day...sure, people were much more impressionable, so i guess it was "easier" to awe crowds. nowadays, copperfield crosses the fuckin wall of china and people are like "so what? turn back to the porn." just sad. and what about that mr. M guy, the one who gave out all the magician
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but the rest of the movie was pretty great.
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...I don't necessarily think the director was going for traditional "fight" scenes like you'd get in a Chuck Norris or Van Damme flick. My impression was that Batman's fighting style was a variation on the tactics historically employed by ninja (again, not as Hollywood has demonstrated those tactics in countless bad movies, but as they actually would appear to the naked eye if you happened to see them). It was all supposed to be quick, hard hits from dark places and then disappearing again before anyone caught but a glimpse of the attacker. Some of the worst scenes from the 1989 Batman (IMHO) are the heavily choreographed fight scenes. They reminded me of the campy "BIF!" and "POW!" fights from the 60s TV show. I think if you looked at Batman Begins more as a horror movie for criminals, you'd see that the fleeting glimpses we got of Bats in action combined with the systematic incapacitation and terrified reactions of a room full of bad guys fumbling around in the dark was pretty masterfully done. Go back and watch Leon (or, as it was known in the states, The Professional). A similar less-is-more depiction of violence done well occupies most of that film's first fifteen minutes. If Nolan had shot extended fight scenes from further out with better lighting, Bat(e)man would've looked less scary and more silly (like the cowl did in that protracted dialogue he had with Oldman's Jim Gordon).
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Think they can find a role for Stacey Keech? I mean...shouldn't they?
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Decepticon asked about this earlier.
This Christopher Priest is a writer from the UK, not the Christopher Priest currently working as a comics writer.
In fact, the comics CP changed his name to Christopher Priest a few years back, and has admitted he knew about the UK Christopher Priest. So it was a little tacky to just appropriate an existing published writer's name. And the two of them have actually had some bad blood between them as a result. (I got all this from the horse's mouth, so to speak, at Worldcon)
Ironic though, because the UK Christopher Priest often writes about doubles and imposters. Esp. in "The Separation." -
in his first year. Batman should have majorly messed up an attack or get knocked out himself by a guy (Bob Sapp) bigger than him. Year One Batman needs to get his a-s handed to him for experience points. He was too smooth with the car too. Childe Roland, the fight scenes being shot 'realistically' was a nice idea, but didn't get executed in the right way. Young Batman is a hungry UFC fighter. He should have went at his opponents with quick choke holds and leg strikes that will take knee caps right out of their sockets. If Batman was real, he'd fight like a UFC dude. Against more than one guy, that's another story.
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Is something that seems like it'd be something that be very visually exciting, just the whole intense fight on a small space with bats getting knocked around while holding the kids leg trying to keep him from falling and fighting off the other two guys. That was part of Miller's Year One learning curve and I would have loved to have seen that in BB.
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and that always bothered me. Sure, it gave him that Burtonesque stylized movement, but try taking on 3-5 guys with a stiff neckbrace on. You'll end up with more stiffly braced body parts. "Wait, villain, don't hit me yet! Give me some time to turn my WHOLE body around so I can punch you first!" -Batman
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Nolan should direct a scene where Batman is trying to parallel park. Put the camera inside the car to show Batman not turning his neck at all as he flawlessly shifts inbetween two Toyotas. It would look creepy to see someone in real life parallel parking their car without turning their necks to see behind them.
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Oct 04, 2005 3:53:57 AM CDT
"There is a motherf-cker out there who fits the bill and I would
by freak2thec0re
you need to realize that for the lead role in a feature length movie such as X-Men, you can't simply hire someone who physically fits the part, you gotta, like, hire someone who can act. They need to have screen presence and charisma and a whole list of abilities besides just looking hard. If you tell me that can be done with any old person off the street, then you've clearly never made a film.
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"They need to have screen presence and charisma and a whole list of abilities..." I agree with you here. "If you tell me that can be done with any old person off the street," It can be done. "then you've clearly never made a film." Well, obviously:)
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Fred Ward in his prime would have made the ultimate Wolverine. Just like Alec Baldwin would have been perfect for Batman 10 years ago. Or Billy Campbell as Superman around the time of The Rocketeer. So many missed oppurtunities.
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...when it was magicians who actually use magic. I was imagining Dr. Strange versus Gandalf, or Zatanna versus Elminster, or Dr. Fate versus Merlin. Even if it were on a much smaller power scale, that would still be really cool. Two illusionists in dueling card tricks, or who can saw more women in half? Not nearly the possibilities. But with Bale, Jackman, and Nolan, it can't be half as bad as it probably would be otherwise.
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I always thought Billy Campbell would have made a better Green Lantern. Especially considering the his Rocketeer pilot character was essentially Hal Jordan.
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