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Moriarty Finds A Little SERENITY! But Will The Fans'!

Hi, everyone. "Moriarty" here with some Rumblings From The Lab...

SERENITY fans scare me.

I’ve enjoyed Joss Whedon’s work for a while now. When I first met Hercules The Strong, the first thing that we bonded over was BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER, which we both confessed a fondness for. At the time, the show was in its fourth year, I think, and there was still the feeling that it was this underrated secret happening on Tuesday nights. Running into another fan was fun because you could finally talk about it without having people stare at you like you’d just shit in their hands. I had a wildly mixed reaction to ANGEL during its time on the air, but I think its last season was one of the best things on TV that year, and it really allowed the show to go out on a high note.

When FIREFLY hit the air, I didn’t watch it. I tried one episode, but the way Fox scheduled it and the way they treated it in subsequent weeks kept me from tuning in again. It seemed like too much work to even find the thing, much less to sort out the chronology of something that had obviously been gooched by the network from day one. It wasn’t until they put the series out on DVD that I was able to give it a chance...

... and I liked it. A lot. In fact, that Christmas, I ended up giving away ten or twelve copies of the box set to friends and family so that they could give it a chance themselves. I’ve been a voracious reader of science-fiction since I was a kid, and for the most part, SF on TV has always been for children. I had to laugh when Harry listed off the shows he thought were superior to FIREFLY the other day, like AUTOMAN or MAN FROM ATLANTIS or MISFITS OF SCIENCE. TV has been a wasteland for science-fiction for much of my life, and that sort of juvenile lowest-common-denominator dreck is exactly why. FIREFLY was obviously inspired by SF literature, and not previous TV shows. The approach to history, culture, and science in the show was impressive, and I liked that it was dense. You had to really pay attention to mine all the information in each episode, and it rewarded repeat viewings.

Hercules and I were invited to visit the set of SERENITY when they were shooting the film at Universal, and it was admittedly pretty cool to tour the actual ship set, a fairly massive fully-encompassing environment. I’m used to sets that are broken up so that they don’t feel real when you stand on them. That wasn’t the case with the Serenity, though. You could walk from one end to the other, and then walk across a set into another much larger set, and all of it felt interconnected. The day we were there, we saw them shooting the scene where River (Summer Glau) sees a video screen with something on it, and it triggers a very particular reaction in her. I’m tiptoeing around the spoiler because it’s a pretty big moment in the movie. As we watched, we talked with Nathan Fillion, who plays Mal, the ship’s captain, and also with Joss and with producer Barry Mandel. Watching Herc wheel himself around the sets, seeing him face to face with Joss Whedon, it was a pretty remarkable moment. He was a happy, happy man. He was definitely the most outwardly expressive Whedon fan on the set that day.

In the months since then, as they’ve done the sneak screenings on these movies around the country and the... god, do I really have to call you “Browncoats”? Even “Trekkie” has more dignity as a nomenclature. Whatever you call yourselves, you’ve spent the time since the first screening slowly but surely poisoning the rest of fandom with an aggressive, obnoxious zeal that makes even the most heavily made-up dude speaking Klingon at a convention at the Ramada seem middle-of-the-road and normal. You’ve had some truly horrific spokespeople preaching the gospel of SERENITY in a way that had almost convinced me not to even see it before opening weekend, so I could just sit this one out. Once the invite came for the all-media, though, I knew I wanted to see it there, hoping that, for once, a theater full of media reporters would be the perfect atmosphere.

Ultimately, I think SERENITY will appeal most directly to those who are already converted. I don’t think this is going to transform everyone into raving SERENITY lunatics. This isn’t going to be a white-hot cultural phenomenon. This isn’t going to be breaking any records. But it may spawn some sequels, and it will definitely keep the SERENITY cult alive and well for a while, and if Universal’s done their job right setting up this weekend, it might even open to a surprising number.

As a fan of FIREFLY, I thought the film did a really nice job of expanding and enhancing the mythology of the show that already exists. As an impartial observer, I thought the opening ten minutes did a nice job of setting up what the uninitiated need to know, even if it is a bit dense with exposition. As a fan, I liked what they did with almost every character. The only places that felt like they were just shoehorned in were the romantic moments between Kaylee (Jewel Staite) and Simon (Sean Maher) and between Mal and Inara (Morena Baccarin). This is not a long film. Every scene is pushing the story forward. Those interludes feel too calculated to really carry any impact in the film. I know, I know... if Whedon didn’t include them, half his fanbase would have torn up the theater seats and slashed the screens in fury. He writes great soap opera, and I’d have more respect for the hardest of the hardcore if they would admit that the soap opera is what keeps them hooked like crackheads. It’s always been Whedon’s secret weapon on his TV shows. The reason BUFFY Seasons Two and Three are generally the best liked of the entire run is because it’s the most intense blend of soap opera and horror, with the end of the whole Giles/Jenny arc giving Joss his first truly defining moment. His work depends on you building long-term relationships with the characters, so that when he abuses them and when he torments them and when he tests them, you empathize deeply. You can’t help it. You’re completely sucked in, and it’s the soap opera of it, the “Ohmygodnohedidn’tjustdothat” of it. Still, I think the film would have been stronger if it had been implied more than overt. It’s the one place where newcomers to the material are really going to feel like they’ve walked in on the middle of something.

Again... treading lightly so as not to ruin whatever surprises there are for you as a viewer, I’ll say that I like that the movie plays rough. Still, it only really affects me as a FIREFLY fan. As an impartial observer, I’d have to say that I wasn’t really sure why the particular deaths that may or may not happen, as many or as few as there might be, don’t strike me that hard because not enough time was spent in the film setting up why these relationships, whatever they are, are important. As a fan, I was really surprised by some of the choices, and I like that there’s a permanence here that no comic book or early Whedon TV show would have promised. I get the feeling that people stay dead in the world of SERENITY.

Jack Green, who shot the film, does a heck of a good job of trying to spice up Whedon’s shooting style, and there are many places where it works. There’s a different energy here than on Whedon’s TV shows. There’s a different sort of propulsive quality to his style. The best set pieces really cut together nicely, like an early escape from a Reaver ship after a robbery. It’s a little bit STAGECOACH, it’s a little bit RETURN OF THE JEDI. There are all sorts of obvious influences in this picture, everything from BLADE RUNNER and THE FIFTH ELEMENT to WWII films. Whedon’s not a blatant thief, though. He’s just a guy who loves a lot of the same things I do, and who’s definitely running his own riffs on certain ideas. It seems like the comic book world supports this sort of creativity most. It’s what made Frank Miller famous. Kurt Busiek’s ASTRO CITY is one of my favorite ongoing examples. Alan Moore is sort of the gold standard of this kind of writer. They take characters or archetypes and they bend and twist them to see what happens. It’s a reaction to pop culture that actually contributes something new instead of just being a regurgitation. For that alone, I think Whedon deserves some credit. I don’t think this is anywhere near as sweeping or epic as STAR TREK: THE MOTION PICTURE tried to be. That film was aiming at 2001 as the high watermark to match or even beat. With STAR TREK 2, though, they were working to launch a film franchise. They wanted to get new viewers onboard, and they wanted to make you care, and they wanted to get you hooked into the larger story of what’s going to happen to all these characters, and they had to survive on their own, mavericks, completely out from anyone else’s control. That’s the sort of film that SERENITY wants to be, and as such, I think it’s pretty successful. I don’t think SERENITY’s had time to build the same size cult as STAR TREK, and I can only imagine how much more obnoxious you’re going to be if that does happen, so for now, I don’t think this is going to cross over to quite the same size of mainstream acceptance.

But give it some time. This is a rich world. There are so many things that sell me on it. I love the use of the Chinese slang. It says a lot about what sort of political or economic changes the world may have been through before the events of this film even began. It’s a great way to make the world more persuasive, and that sort of attention to detail is what sells the reality for me.

I think the third act sort of stinks, and while I like the idea of Mr. Universe as a character, David Krumholtz is deeply miscast. I don’t believe him as this guy connected to everything, watching everything. He’s too young, too sane, too unaffected. I wish the film had played with the character and the idea of the signal in a smarter way, like an intergalactic NETWORK. Mal and his crew are mad as hell, and they’re not going to take it anymore. Instead, it devolves into a fist fight and a gun fight, and while both are staged well, neither ultimately worked for me. I thought it was too much sound and fury when the film should be getting down to its big ideas, some real human drama. It seems like the build-up is all so cool, so interesting, that it almost can’t help but be a disappointment when it turns into just another action movie.

I had a good time. I enjoyed most of the film. My gripes are small gripes, and it’s more a reaction to the things I liked than it is any major complaint. I just wanted more. I wanted it to be a great movie, and not just a good one. I think it’s a heck of an extension of what’s come before, and I hope the fanbase is enough to make the film a modest hit in theaters and a continual hit on DVD. I hope the fanbase is enough for us to get a second movie, since I think this cast is just warming up, and telling a story without having to handle all the introductions could set them free to do something much cooler. And having said all of that, the “Browncoats” are still going to be abusive and unpleasant and pushy and belligerent in the Talkback below. If they’re not, I’ll be openly amazed. They’ve hijacked Talkback after Talkback on wildly unrelated topics, so I’m sure they’ll do the same here. That’s a shame, and if anything keeps people away from theaters this weekend, it will be the zealotry of a fanbase that makes others feel unwelcome, even if they’re enjoying the same thing you are.

I’ve still got to finish transcribing my Cronenberg interview, so I’ll get back to that. Until then...

"Moriarty" out.





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I saw a brown coat...
by Some Dude
Sep 30th, 2005
02:20:42 AM
Person I went with was a Firefly virgin (and pretty much a Whedo
by elab49
Sep 30th, 2005
02:23:48 AM
BATTLESTAR GALACTICA
by TheRealMoriarty
Sep 30th, 2005
02:28:04 AM
Hey Mo...
by Man-in-the-Box
Sep 30th, 2005
02:28:06 AM
Mori,
by Man-in-the-Box
Sep 30th, 2005
02:33:14 AM
It IS true that Firefly has some ridiculously obnoxious fans
by Praetor
Sep 30th, 2005
02:40:54 AM
That's it Praetor
by Man-in-the-Box
Sep 30th, 2005
02:45:00 AM
I can't afford a house..
by Praetor
Sep 30th, 2005
02:50:39 AM
a little mood music please
by Man-in-the-Box
Sep 30th, 2005
02:55:05 AM
Angel Season 5 is not the best
by Neo Zeed
Sep 30th, 2005
03:00:53 AM
Serenity BITES!!!
by abigaildb69
Sep 30th, 2005
03:01:54 AM
Again, maybe it's a bias thing...
by Ribbons
Sep 30th, 2005
03:08:56 AM
Abigail
by Man-in-the-Box
Sep 30th, 2005
03:11:55 AM
Hey Ribbons
by Man-in-the-Box
Sep 30th, 2005
03:15:57 AM
And yes...
by Ribbons
Sep 30th, 2005
03:18:32 AM
Man-in-the-Box
by Ribbons
Sep 30th, 2005
03:19:49 AM
Should be fun big R
by Man-in-the-Box
Sep 30th, 2005
03:23:43 AM
There's never a wrong time to mention you like fires
by Ribbons
Sep 30th, 2005
03:26:33 AM
As I said in another talkback....
by Andy Dufresne
Sep 30th, 2005
03:27:15 AM
Andy,
by Man-in-the-Box
Sep 30th, 2005
03:31:17 AM
Are you new to the internet?
by IMMORTAL-1
Sep 30th, 2005
03:31:52 AM
Mr. IMMORTAL,
by Man-in-the-Box
Sep 30th, 2005
03:36:37 AM
Sorry man-in-the-box
by Andy Dufresne
Sep 30th, 2005
03:39:03 AM
That's the duality,
by Man-in-the-Box
Sep 30th, 2005
03:46:09 AM
Man in the box
by optimus122
Sep 30th, 2005
04:09:43 AM
Well,
by Man-in-the-Box
Sep 30th, 2005
04:12:39 AM
Whoa there, optimus
by Ribbons
Sep 30th, 2005
04:17:35 AM
I fault the parents.
by Man-in-the-Box
Sep 30th, 2005
04:21:59 AM
Nah, that's okay
by Ribbons
Sep 30th, 2005
04:24:57 AM
I won't go and see this at the cinema because of the Brownco
by supertoyslast
Sep 30th, 2005
04:25:59 AM
Toys Last
by Man-in-the-Box
Sep 30th, 2005
04:33:47 AM

by Ribbons
Sep 30th, 2005
04:42:25 AM
By all means
by Man-in-the-Box
Sep 30th, 2005
04:46:05 AM
To Moriarty with Un-Love...
by WillowFan2001
Sep 30th, 2005
06:05:12 AM
WillowFan
by MemBirdman
Sep 30th, 2005
06:13:46 AM
Hey I like Firefly too...
by Wungolioth
Sep 30th, 2005
07:10:26 AM
Damnit....
by Wungolioth
Sep 30th, 2005
07:18:35 AM
the shrink: Re: Movies from TV flops
by TheTARDIS
Sep 30th, 2005
07:20:46 AM
It's not just the Browncoat's fault
by photoboy
Sep 30th, 2005
07:22:42 AM
"Obnoxious", that's the word I used in Harry's thread
by I Dunno
Sep 30th, 2005
07:24:31 AM
Photoboy
by thomasgaffney
Sep 30th, 2005
07:26:45 AM
moriarty, i have a joke for you...
by jig98
Sep 30th, 2005
07:29:28 AM
This Talkback Won't Really Take Off Until Tonay / Tubgirl To
by ZombieSolutions
Sep 30th, 2005
07:36:41 AM
Moriarty...
by AeroB
Sep 30th, 2005
07:37:15 AM
Talkback Hijack
by thomasgaffney
Sep 30th, 2005
07:51:28 AM
Restart
by MaguaSynfield
Sep 30th, 2005
07:56:01 AM
A bit underwhelmed about the reviews here
by The Paladin
Sep 30th, 2005
07:57:25 AM
Ribbons is right, gasoline is too expensive
by The Dude Abides
Sep 30th, 2005
08:11:53 AM
Points
by idledead
Sep 30th, 2005
08:19:39 AM
hottoq
by Vision
Sep 30th, 2005
08:20:20 AM
Silly
by fxmulder35
Sep 30th, 2005
08:20:29 AM
Point #4
by idledead
Sep 30th, 2005
08:22:51 AM
Somehow I knew this would be the reaction...only it skews more t
by Drath
Sep 30th, 2005
08:32:23 AM
JUDGING A FILM BY IT'S FAN BASE?
by ripper t. jones
Sep 30th, 2005
08:46:49 AM
"Hercules and I were invited to visit the set of SERENITY " + "W
by performingmonkey
Sep 30th, 2005
08:50:17 AM
My coat is a brownish color...
by Mick The Knife
Sep 30th, 2005
08:51:36 AM
Rotten Tomatoes Has It At 80-pecent positive
by Hercules
Sep 30th, 2005
09:07:09 AM
If you judge a film by whether or not you enjoyed it, as opposed
by FluffyUnbound
Sep 30th, 2005
09:09:02 AM
A Better Review
by Sean38
Sep 30th, 2005
09:30:41 AM
It's true that the movie is not nearly as good as the series
by AeroB
Sep 30th, 2005
09:36:50 AM
Of course SERENITY will do well
by IAmLegolas
Sep 30th, 2005
09:42:54 AM
The problem with talkback hijacking...
by Zino
Sep 30th, 2005
09:58:50 AM
fanatic fans?
by capt jack aubrey
Sep 30th, 2005
09:59:20 AM
Good review
by Mafu
Sep 30th, 2005
10:18:35 AM
..and that makes us mighty.
by Billyeveryteen
Sep 30th, 2005
10:39:34 AM
Abusive fans in TALKBACK?!?
by Palhaco
Sep 30th, 2005
10:49:04 AM
watched the firefly marathon the other day
by fried samurai
Sep 30th, 2005
11:02:26 AM
Not a Whedonite...
by the Grobe
Sep 30th, 2005
11:09:30 AM
Browncoats...
by eviltwin
Sep 30th, 2005
11:47:55 AM
SAVEFARSCAPE demands you go see Serenity
by Obredaan
Sep 30th, 2005
11:53:01 AM
Nerds are sensitive people
by Basghetti
Sep 30th, 2005
12:08:07 PM
TimmyTheCat
by Basghetti
Sep 30th, 2005
12:13:20 PM

by Basghetti
Sep 30th, 2005
12:14:52 PM
exactly what I was talking about in my last post, TimmyTheCat
by I Dunno
Sep 30th, 2005
12:19:56 PM
Science Fiction Novels that should be made into films:
by seppukudkurosawa
Sep 30th, 2005
12:21:15 PM
Make Hih Rise High Rise and you'll know what the hell I'
by seppukudkurosawa
Sep 30th, 2005
12:21:48 PM
Timmy, brethren, relax OK?
by seppukudkurosawa
Sep 30th, 2005
12:30:29 PM
Browncoats and Battlestar Galactica
by The Funketeer
Sep 30th, 2005
12:38:27 PM
I had my suspicions
by seppukudkurosawa
Sep 30th, 2005
12:45:26 PM
Claudia Puig
by CatVutt
Sep 30th, 2005
12:46:42 PM
Science Fiction Novels that should be made into films
by MaguaSynfield
Sep 30th, 2005
01:01:14 PM
Funketeer has hit it on the head.
by EeterOfWurldz
Sep 30th, 2005
01:07:42 PM
The reaction from friends at work
by zekmoe
Sep 30th, 2005
01:09:24 PM
Moriarty I think your criticisms are a little misguided.
by wato
Sep 30th, 2005
01:10:04 PM
Hey Magua thanks for that info
by seppukudkurosawa
Sep 30th, 2005
02:01:35 PM
Angel and Buffy are 2 of the best shows ever on television!
by GravyAkira
Sep 30th, 2005
02:07:33 PM
Timmy the cat & racist poetry...
by Nate Champion
Sep 30th, 2005
02:34:51 PM
Please don't humour this guy anymore, I think anyone who'
by seppukudkurosawa
Sep 30th, 2005
02:44:05 PM
I have a legitimate question about Fire Fly..
by Doom II
Sep 30th, 2005
02:59:10 PM
WHAT MORE COULD WE WANT THIS WEEK !!
by zathras34
Sep 30th, 2005
03:30:21 PM
Special Effects
by Obredaan
Sep 30th, 2005
03:31:06 PM
"and the person who could adapt Forever Wars into a stageplay mu
by MaguaSynfield
Sep 30th, 2005
03:34:06 PM
I saw one of the advance screenings of Serenity back in May and
by Barry Egan
Sep 30th, 2005
03:35:39 PM
RoyRogers is right
by IAmLegolas
Sep 30th, 2005
03:53:36 PM
Some things to note...
by Childe Roland
Sep 30th, 2005
04:30:54 PM

by Obredaan
Sep 30th, 2005
04:35:01 PM
GoatZinger
by Obredaan
Sep 30th, 2005
04:35:38 PM
"Browncoats"
by Bryan
Sep 30th, 2005
04:39:32 PM
Inspiration
by the Grobe
Sep 30th, 2005
05:07:34 PM
Watch Out For The Space Zombies, River!!!
by ZombieSolutions
Sep 30th, 2005
05:14:53 PM
I just read quite a stuffy and formal review where the fanbase w
by seppukudkurosawa
Sep 30th, 2005
05:17:50 PM
"Critics generally don't like sci-fi genre films"
by Gheorghe Zamfir
Sep 30th, 2005
05:26:32 PM

by daroe
Sep 30th, 2005
05:26:49 PM
Brock Tune
by seppukudkurosawa
Sep 30th, 2005
05:42:37 PM
Actually both Dark City and Blade Runner were favorably reviewed
by Gheorghe Zamfir
Sep 30th, 2005
06:24:10 PM
Folks, keep in mind that Moriarty and Harry both gave gushing go
by Thirteen 13
Sep 30th, 2005
06:37:26 PM
I repeat Firefly has Fans??
by onefalsemove
Sep 30th, 2005
06:44:45 PM
I don't know why anyone is bitching about the reviews
by Gheorghe Zamfir
Sep 30th, 2005
06:45:46 PM
I know now why I don't bother posting anymore.
by cutest_of_borg
Sep 30th, 2005
06:49:05 PM
I DON'T GET IT!!!!!
by hauptman
Sep 30th, 2005
06:51:01 PM
TimmyTheCat
by cutest_of_borg
Sep 30th, 2005
06:53:21 PM
cutest_of_borg...
by WillowFan2001
Sep 30th, 2005
06:57:46 PM
ALRIGHT!!! Only 4 minutes to garner a response. Keep the faith,
by cutest_of_borg
Sep 30th, 2005
07:02:51 PM
Besides...
by cutest_of_borg
Sep 30th, 2005
07:07:55 PM
Fake It Til You Make It
by Rock Icon
Sep 30th, 2005
07:11:23 PM
Oh, get over yourself, I was just browsing the forum...
by WillowFan2001
Sep 30th, 2005
07:13:28 PM
Holy crap, had to say this before I left...
by WillowFan2001
Sep 30th, 2005
07:19:11 PM
Hey for all you idiots that were saying Serenity is going to flo
by Thirteen 13
Sep 30th, 2005
07:23:36 PM
RoyRogers
by hauptman
Sep 30th, 2005
07:25:34 PM
WHEDONITES!
by AttackingClone
Sep 30th, 2005
07:44:04 PM
Willow, you Whedon fans sure are pissy.
by cutest_of_borg
Sep 30th, 2005
08:10:26 PM
Television is superior to film
by AeroB
Sep 30th, 2005
08:21:49 PM
"Moriarty hasn't given us a review, he's given a slap in
by Stan the Bat
Sep 30th, 2005
08:29:57 PM
I Loved SERENITY, But...
by ZombieSolutions
Sep 30th, 2005
08:53:18 PM
Mori, you and Quint should know better.
by Theta
Sep 30th, 2005
09:02:24 PM
"Why didn't they get a professional cinematographer?"
by Ribbons
Sep 30th, 2005
09:05:38 PM
Note to flip63hole
by Theta
Sep 30th, 2005
09:06:24 PM
I really hope...
by Ace Hunter
Sep 30th, 2005
09:14:40 PM
ZombieSolutions
by AttackingClone
Sep 30th, 2005
09:24:21 PM
GOATZINGER----"GODZILLA VS MEGALON"
by zathras34
Sep 30th, 2005
09:35:13 PM
Whedonites = former disgruntled goths
by Nordling
Sep 30th, 2005
09:37:34 PM
Moriarty continues to show why he's the best reviewer on thi
by Voice O. Reason
Sep 30th, 2005
09:44:18 PM
I will give the Whedon fans credit though...
by Nordling
Sep 30th, 2005
09:44:25 PM
"Maybe they come up against an old foe, been done I know, and th
by ZombieSolutions
Sep 30th, 2005
10:02:13 PM
I'll be humming the themesong while you pull the trigger Ace
by Shermdawg
Sep 30th, 2005
10:59:41 PM
Anyone who claims to not be seeing the movie this weekend due to
by DarthHomercles
Sep 30th, 2005
11:19:02 PM
Hmm we scare you?
by spikerules2
Oct 1st, 2005
12:27:06 AM
Firefly fans scare you?
by loki24
Oct 1st, 2005
01:02:29 AM
TimmyTheCat
by Barry Egan
Oct 1st, 2005
01:13:41 AM
I was a "Firefly" (& Whedon) virgin until today...
by El Scorcho
Oct 1st, 2005
01:31:36 AM
FULL HOUSE
by antonphd
Oct 1st, 2005
02:22:50 AM
Elite geeks putting down other geeks. Good stuff.
by TruPhan
Oct 1st, 2005
02:56:45 AM
Oh yeah, forgot the point of my other post
by TruPhan
Oct 1st, 2005
03:02:48 AM
No one's getting banned
by TruPhan
Oct 1st, 2005
04:10:33 AM
That's how it was at the midnight screening
by TruPhan
Oct 1st, 2005
04:24:36 AM
I admit no review had the term shitjacket in
by seppukudkurosawa
Oct 1st, 2005
05:35:00 AM
You realise Serenity is actually adapted from Kurosawa's Iki
by seppukudkurosawa
Oct 1st, 2005
07:09:57 AM
this does look like a made for TV movie
by Rupee88
Oct 1st, 2005
07:12:08 AM
Ripping off Kurosawa is considered being literate.
by I Dunno
Oct 1st, 2005
09:00:57 AM
Firefly Virgins
by JCubedz
Oct 1st, 2005
09:19:29 AM
IKIRU Was Adapted From Doestoyevsky's THE IDIOT
by ZombieSolutions
Oct 1st, 2005
09:23:49 AM
AICN Whedon ass kissing. I remember in another Whedon article pa
by Lutz
Oct 1st, 2005
10:06:25 AM
Lousy Opening Day
by hauptman
Oct 1st, 2005
10:49:52 AM
just watched a few episodes of the show.. and then it got cancel
by silverdog
Oct 1st, 2005
11:00:46 AM
Painless viewing experience the other night
by Blacklist
Oct 1st, 2005
11:13:39 AM
Maybe "Browncoat" can be redefined a little...
by Blacklist
Oct 1st, 2005
11:29:17 AM
Firefly is a horrible show
by MechaTruffautMk2
Oct 1st, 2005
11:43:10 AM
Matinees Are The Only Way To Go These Days
by ZombieSolutions
Oct 1st, 2005
11:52:35 AM
DamnTheTorpedoes, you should be ashamed of yourself...
by MechaTruffautMk2
Oct 1st, 2005
12:00:30 PM
Sorry -- IKIRU Is Based On Tolstoy's DEATH OF IVAN ILLYCH
by ZombieSolutions
Oct 1st, 2005
12:05:02 PM
loved it....but Mori, as for it not having tv influences...
by lynxpro
Oct 1st, 2005
12:31:36 PM
hauptman has no idea what he's talking about...
by WillowFan2001
Oct 1st, 2005
12:35:48 PM
melodrama for men
by speed
Oct 1st, 2005
12:36:54 PM
Trolling is when comments are made simply to be spiteful and sti
by MechaTruffautMk2
Oct 1st, 2005
12:37:21 PM
a little disappointing?
by drewATX
Oct 1st, 2005
12:40:45 PM
Browncoats and subverting the mythology of Firefly
by lynxpro
Oct 1st, 2005
12:41:23 PM
a fan but not psychotic
by the_pissboy1
Oct 1st, 2005
12:44:10 PM
Speaking Of Which, COWBOY BEEBOP (Clearly A HUGE Influence Here)
by ZombieSolutions
Oct 1st, 2005
12:46:02 PM
That Whedon Made Ikiru post was made after Tonay said something
by seppukudkurosawa
Oct 1st, 2005
01:16:58 PM
This site has become a gathering of insecure dolts who can't
by Voice O. Reason
Oct 1st, 2005
02:02:11 PM
Hey, seppukudkurosawa
by ZombieSolutions
Oct 1st, 2005
02:08:29 PM
Well, my wife and I were going to go see it, making plans for a
by JDanielP
Oct 1st, 2005
02:35:09 PM
Cleopatra 2525 4 Life
by MechaTruffautMk2
Oct 1st, 2005
02:42:06 PM
JDanielP
by ZombieSolutions
Oct 1st, 2005
03:24:04 PM
Re: WillowFan2001
by hauptman
Oct 1st, 2005
03:31:08 PM
overnight box office returns?
by reinhold
Oct 1st, 2005
03:45:26 PM
"Oh, and anyone who says it's as good as, or even close to e
by ZombieSolutions
Oct 1st, 2005
05:03:33 PM
BTW, Ringbearer9
by ZombieSolutions
Oct 1st, 2005
05:09:29 PM
"NO ONE TALKS THE WAY HIS CHARACTERS DO."
by RogueScribner
Oct 1st, 2005
05:12:35 PM
Apparently, The Like SERENITY Over At LFL
by ZombieSolutions
Oct 1st, 2005
05:22:00 PM
My Opinion if you care
by BenFerris
Oct 1st, 2005
05:35:27 PM
Farscape in Syndication
by Roj Blake
Oct 1st, 2005
05:51:14 PM
DarthHomercles
by supertoyslast
Oct 1st, 2005
05:55:55 PM
Oh Well, I Really Liked It Lots
by ZombieSolutions
Oct 1st, 2005
06:38:16 PM
"I'm not sure the movie would have much appeal for non-sci-f
by ZombieSolutions
Oct 1st, 2005
06:44:28 PM
C'mon now don't make up the numbers
by JUSTICE41
Oct 1st, 2005
08:28:29 PM
Re: Ringbearer9
by spikerules2
Oct 1st, 2005
08:30:18 PM
I'm here for you.
by cutest_of_borg
Oct 1st, 2005
08:30:54 PM
All this hate
by AttackingClone
Oct 1st, 2005
08:35:43 PM
http://www.the-numbers.com/ind ex.php
by spikerules2
Oct 1st, 2005
08:36:41 PM
Oh god, nothing makes me laugh more
by Gheorghe Zamfir
Oct 1st, 2005
08:45:03 PM
Oh MY, nothing makes me laugh more
by spikerules2
Oct 1st, 2005
08:49:51 PM
RogueScribner -- Are You Posing Yourself As Joss Whedon?
by ZombieSolutions
Oct 1st, 2005
08:51:58 PM
Hey, I never insulted him
by Gheorghe Zamfir
Oct 1st, 2005
08:56:43 PM
Hey, I really dont care
by spikerules2
Oct 1st, 2005
08:59:51 PM
Lol, obviously I touched some nerve with you
by Gheorghe Zamfir
Oct 1st, 2005
09:06:29 PM
Yes, beaten by flightplan, BUT
by Heisenberg85
Oct 1st, 2005
09:07:34 PM
Why is everyone harping on per screen averages?
by I Dunno
Oct 1st, 2005
09:33:24 PM
Just saw Serenity and...
by zekmoe
Oct 1st, 2005
09:49:14 PM
Flop?
by AeroB
Oct 1st, 2005
10:25:39 PM
bought ticket for Corpse Bride, saw Serenity.
by Darth Philbin
Oct 1st, 2005
10:27:26 PM
Well damn it all
by Bass Ackwards
Oct 1st, 2005
10:49:54 PM
Um, spoilers.
by Heisenberg85
Oct 1st, 2005
11:02:47 PM
Huh?
by Benjamin Horne
Oct 1st, 2005
11:30:48 PM
Last 20 minutes sucked
by looklost
Oct 2nd, 2005
12:29:40 AM
...um Mecha?
by Billyeveryteen
Oct 2nd, 2005
12:45:22 AM
Rolo Tamasi
by AeroB
Oct 2nd, 2005
12:45:45 AM
You guys sure have a real glossy understanding of business
by Bass Ackwards
Oct 2nd, 2005
01:44:31 AM
Rolo and Darth
by optimus122
Oct 2nd, 2005
02:00:24 AM
"firefly sold over a million dvd's"
by Bass Ackwards
Oct 2nd, 2005
02:12:47 AM
Got it from
by optimus122
Oct 2nd, 2005
02:17:14 AM
UGHH
by optimus122
Oct 2nd, 2005
02:19:00 AM
Blue Gloves v. Reevers v. Crazy Sister.
by warp11
Oct 2nd, 2005
02:21:37 AM
It was brave of Joss to kill off major characters.
by warp11
Oct 2nd, 2005
02:23:44 AM
It can sell all the DVD's it wants
by JUSTICE41
Oct 2nd, 2005
02:46:02 AM
"Browcoats" can kiss my a$$
by SG7
Oct 2nd, 2005
04:20:23 AM
Oh....
by SG7
Oct 2nd, 2005
04:27:29 AM
Fox
by optimus122
Oct 2nd, 2005
06:50:33 AM
so obnoxious it makes the guy who names his kid "Hartigan Tiberi
by punto
Oct 2nd, 2005
07:20:22 AM
i
by CuervoJones
Oct 2nd, 2005
07:50:30 AM
Not exactly
by Razorback
Oct 2nd, 2005
09:20:26 AM
SG7, you don't happen to live in the NYC area?
by Razorback
Oct 2nd, 2005
09:24:50 AM
Saw the Movie on Friday
by NubtheSquirrel
Oct 2nd, 2005
09:40:23 AM
It may have some small legs
by optimus122
Oct 2nd, 2005
09:41:23 AM
Retards
by Mista Mann
Oct 2nd, 2005
10:33:44 AM
This was a great movie...
by Thorfin
Oct 2nd, 2005
10:46:43 AM
He gave away 10 or 12 copies of the box set for Xmas?!?
by Jar Jar 4 Prez
Oct 2nd, 2005
10:57:06 AM
Estimated $10.1 million opening weekend?
by supertoyslast
Oct 2nd, 2005
11:53:05 AM
Moriarity, maybe you should call those overzealous fans "Reavers
by Craiggers
Oct 2nd, 2005
12:29:12 PM
goodbye Mal, Zoe, Jayne, etc
by TodayzSpecial
Oct 2nd, 2005
12:38:41 PM
Another possible reason for such vehement fandom are the jerkass
by Craiggers
Oct 2nd, 2005
12:48:32 PM
I'm not judging the film based on its fans.
by ZeroCorpse
Oct 2nd, 2005
12:52:33 PM
Apparently, non-Browncoats or Buffyites just "don't get it"
by ZeroCorpse
Oct 2nd, 2005
12:55:20 PM
You can enjoy Buffy/angel and still not get hyped over Firefly:
by Neo Zeed
Oct 2nd, 2005
01:17:53 PM
Since when did being a fan of something mean you were in a relig
by Craiggers
Oct 2nd, 2005
01:26:49 PM
$10 Mil Opening Wknd
by chickychow
Oct 2nd, 2005
02:26:00 PM
I can see where you're coming from Evil White Man
by Craiggers
Oct 2nd, 2005
02:26:31 PM
Craiggers, Star Wars fans are called "Star Wars fans" not "Warsi
by Razorback
Oct 2nd, 2005
02:31:33 PM
Well, its official...Serenity has TANKED!
by jrbarker
Oct 2nd, 2005
02:56:49 PM
Marketing is very bad.....
by The True Priapic
Oct 2nd, 2005
03:02:29 PM
Hey, I've seen Star Wars fans referred to as "Warsies" befor
by Craiggers
Oct 2nd, 2005
03:16:04 PM
The movie hasn't really "TANKED"
by Craiggers
Oct 2nd, 2005
03:23:29 PM
Craiggers.....
by The True Priapic
Oct 2nd, 2005
03:26:47 PM
re: Optimus
by Darth Philbin
Oct 2nd, 2005
03:28:35 PM
True Priapic
by Craiggers
Oct 2nd, 2005
03:46:47 PM
Craiggers....
by The True Priapic
Oct 2nd, 2005
03:57:00 PM
You can't take the sky from me . . .
by RogueScribner
Oct 2nd, 2005
03:58:30 PM
Razorback: I was in Redmond WA
by SG7
Oct 2nd, 2005
04:10:39 PM
As long as the bad B/O shuts up TONAY!
by ComputerGuy68
Oct 2nd, 2005
04:16:53 PM
Browncoats don't get to gloat over big box-office...
by mholc68
Oct 2nd, 2005
04:19:12 PM
Why browncoats get no respect.
by Neo Zeed
Oct 2nd, 2005
04:20:45 PM

by Nairb The Movie
Oct 2nd, 2005
05:12:02 PM
"Hey for all you idiots that were saying Serenity is going to fl
by Bass Ackwards
Oct 2nd, 2005
05:18:06 PM
I thought this was supposed to open #1
by Greased Deaf Guy
Oct 2nd, 2005
05:29:43 PM
My show is better than your show, blah, blah, blah...
by Roj Blake
Oct 2nd, 2005
05:42:53 PM
DVD sales
by Greased Deaf Guy
Oct 2nd, 2005
05:47:28 PM
as a Non-Firefly person - hey, I really enjoyed that movie.
by Russman
Oct 2nd, 2005
06:38:46 PM
True...its sad there will be no sequel...instead we get Dukes 2,
by jrbarker
Oct 2nd, 2005
06:41:50 PM
So how far away are we from vampire stuff?
by Neo Zeed
Oct 2nd, 2005
06:44:39 PM
There's always next weekend
by Thorfin
Oct 2nd, 2005
06:53:43 PM
My god. It's not full of stars.
by Juggernaut125
Oct 2nd, 2005
06:58:45 PM
FLOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ten Mill !!!!
by jojo-pimp
Oct 2nd, 2005
07:07:23 PM
This should have gone straight to DVD...
by ComputerGuy68
Oct 2nd, 2005
07:37:12 PM
Flop
by Mr. Profit
Oct 2nd, 2005
07:42:52 PM
He should have made a Buffy movie
by Mr. Profit
Oct 2nd, 2005
07:47:27 PM
I would have rather have seen Max Headroom, American Gothic, or
by Neo Zeed
Oct 2nd, 2005
08:04:59 PM
RE: Thirteen 13 - "Hey for all you idiots that were saying Seren
by Kai_Mah'gra
Oct 2nd, 2005
08:06:30 PM
Sleeper hit
by Subversive01057
Oct 2nd, 2005
08:37:40 PM
For the Browcoats and die-hard Whedonites out there, here's
by Triumph poops!
Oct 2nd, 2005
09:22:20 PM
Nothing comes out next week?!
by TodayzSpecial
Oct 2nd, 2005
09:29:29 PM
I bet you anything a Farscape flick would have made at least twe
by Shermdawg
Oct 2nd, 2005
09:31:02 PM
Herc isn't done yet.
by FluffyUnbound
Oct 2nd, 2005
10:20:12 PM
Who the loser is here
by Subversive01057
Oct 2nd, 2005
10:26:39 PM
Yeah, we need a scapegoat, lets blame Herc.
by Tall_Boy
Oct 2nd, 2005
10:35:51 PM
Now that this nasty business is behind us...
by cutest_of_borg
Oct 2nd, 2005
10:38:01 PM
Hmmm.
by Nairb The Movie
Oct 2nd, 2005
10:43:32 PM
Bad box office showing for Serenity equals:
by kintar0
Oct 2nd, 2005
10:54:49 PM
naysayers and dissin' costume donners
by lynxpro
Oct 2nd, 2005
11:40:37 PM
Even if you don't like Serenity
by AeroB
Oct 3rd, 2005
12:04:56 AM
OMG!!!
by jedimast3r
Oct 3rd, 2005
12:39:00 AM
Well now, Universal is doing an interesting spin on the SERENITY
by Lenny Nero
Oct 3rd, 2005
12:40:22 AM
Lenny...
by Ribbons
Oct 3rd, 2005
12:46:09 AM
Re: AeroB
by Mafu
Oct 3rd, 2005
01:24:27 AM
I'm out raged!
by Greased Deaf Guy
Oct 3rd, 2005
01:31:57 AM
I was gonna hate on this movie like a motherfucker but now
by Doc_Strange
Oct 3rd, 2005
01:42:24 AM
hottoq
by Ribbons
Oct 3rd, 2005
02:15:09 AM
Not only has it no legs
by JUSTICE41
Oct 3rd, 2005
02:39:52 AM
"They're trying to spin it, alright. Sure you face a differe
by DarthHomercles
Oct 3rd, 2005
03:23:30 AM
A movie based off a cancelled cult TV series that almost nobody
by Swarmy
Oct 3rd, 2005
04:39:52 AM
Wait until next week before calling it a flop
by Razorback
Oct 3rd, 2005
04:46:29 AM
to quote a fan on the firefly site:
by dr.bulber
Oct 3rd, 2005
06:09:05 AM
Firefly/Serenity is destined to remain a cult phenomenon
by Serious Black
Oct 3rd, 2005
07:30:25 AM
This is all excessive
by verge
Oct 3rd, 2005
07:50:02 AM
Wow this is really out of hand
by livingat24fps
Oct 3rd, 2005
08:18:49 AM
"why does Capt. Mal have a (mild) *Southern* twang when the acto
by MaguaSynfield
Oct 3rd, 2005
08:37:04 AM
Too bad it floped
by Brock Samson
Oct 3rd, 2005
08:51:14 AM
Universal not disappointed
by Obredaan
Oct 3rd, 2005
08:55:46 AM
DUD
by wessmith1966
Oct 3rd, 2005
09:00:46 AM
I think it is sad
by sabrefox
Oct 3rd, 2005
09:08:43 AM
It's not quite thanksgiving yet...
by obi-bear
Oct 3rd, 2005
09:21:12 AM
wolf at the door... you seem to not understand how it works
by Razorback
Oct 3rd, 2005
09:39:50 AM
I wonder if this finally kills the Red Dwarf movie?
by supertoyslast
Oct 3rd, 2005
11:03:37 AM
Oh, my!
by Childe Roland
Oct 3rd, 2005
11:21:45 AM
Regarding 'taking glee' in Serenity's failure
by Godardwhowhatnow
Oct 3rd, 2005
11:26:41 AM
Don't forget the "loveable" Cameron Diaz is being unleashed
by Mr. Profit
Oct 3rd, 2005
11:44:03 AM
In Her Shoes with toni Collette and directed by Curtis Hanson.
by Mr. Profit
Oct 3rd, 2005
11:52:23 AM
$10.1 million? Not shocked that it sucked.
by Jeditemple
Oct 3rd, 2005
12:07:08 PM
so now they've back peddled to
by Greased Deaf Guy
Oct 3rd, 2005
12:12:57 PM

by Juggernaut125
Oct 3rd, 2005
12:14:16 PM
Good movie...too bad the opening weekend didnt bring in more mon
by Bong
Oct 3rd, 2005
12:22:14 PM
who says it flopped?
by jonastheangel
Oct 3rd, 2005
12:25:57 PM
Re: Jeditemple
by sabrefox
Oct 3rd, 2005
12:27:22 PM
GMTH, Juggernaut125
by sabrefox
Oct 3rd, 2005
12:31:15 PM
As a non-FIREFLY fan who watched SERENITY, all I can say is, Jos
by SpyGuy
Oct 3rd, 2005
12:48:11 PM
Too sad...
by NightArrows
Oct 3rd, 2005
12:50:06 PM
Backlash - rooting against
by Bass Ackwards
Oct 3rd, 2005
12:52:54 PM
Ah the justification of the losers
by modlight
Oct 3rd, 2005
12:59:05 PM
This reminds of me of a few months ago
by DarthHomercles
Oct 3rd, 2005
12:59:57 PM
When I said a Farscape flick would gross 20mil...
by Shermdawg
Oct 3rd, 2005
01:00:15 PM
Batman Begins opening weekend was $50 million
by Bass Ackwards
Oct 3rd, 2005
01:07:43 PM
I like Farscape
by Bass Ackwards
Oct 3rd, 2005
01:19:50 PM
Bass Ackwards
by DarthHomercles
Oct 3rd, 2005
01:30:31 PM
oh my god, would you people just shut the fuck up about the box
by oisin5199
Oct 3rd, 2005
01:34:39 PM
No Darth, I got your point
by Bass Ackwards
Oct 3rd, 2005
01:46:35 PM
Re: Favorite moment *SPOILERS*
by sabrefox
Oct 3rd, 2005
01:51:12 PM
Favorite Moment SPOILERS
by Harlow
Oct 3rd, 2005
02:06:02 PM
badass Simon
by oisin5199
Oct 3rd, 2005
02:08:08 PM
Some of the stuff I liked. **Spoilers**
by Juggernaut125
Oct 3rd, 2005
02:12:22 PM
Galaxy Quest was a Christmas-time family movie.
by Lenny Nero
Oct 3rd, 2005
02:18:20 PM
Good points oisin
by Juggernaut125
Oct 3rd, 2005
02:18:42 PM
How much did I miss?
by sabrefox
Oct 3rd, 2005
02:19:16 PM
oisin5199's right
by IAmLegolas
Oct 3rd, 2005
02:29:56 PM
SabreFox
by Obredaan
Oct 3rd, 2005
02:30:07 PM
TALKBACKERS! THIS HERE BROWNCOAT NEEDS YOUR HELP! "Serenity" wil
by Man of Stool
Oct 3rd, 2005
02:32:40 PM
Thanks for filling me in
by sabrefox
Oct 3rd, 2005
02:37:43 PM
greatn, you`re right . Again. Damn.
by Man of Stool
Oct 3rd, 2005
02:47:02 PM
Quote from Joss
by oisin5199
Oct 3rd, 2005
02:53:28 PM
So it has come to this...
by DarthBen
Oct 3rd, 2005
02:55:09 PM
I didn't know Seserenity had 4 movies released before it, ea
by Billyeveryteen
Oct 3rd, 2005
02:55:24 PM
What are you talking about Billy?
by Bass Ackwards
Oct 3rd, 2005
03:01:07 PM
Also, on the FIREFLY DVD commentary tracks, Whedon alludes to In
by Lenny Nero
Oct 3rd, 2005
03:18:07 PM
I can't even spell Serenity...
by Billyeveryteen
Oct 3rd, 2005
03:22:13 PM
RE: wolf at the door - "so even if serenity only makes 20 milli
by Kai_Mah'gra
Oct 3rd, 2005
03:22:49 PM
Inara's and Book's secret
by oisin5199
Oct 3rd, 2005
03:30:07 PM
Kai - whatever - if you hadn't noticed, we've moved on f
by oisin5199
Oct 3rd, 2005
03:32:02 PM
Billyeveryteen
by Kai_Mah'gra
Oct 3rd, 2005
03:34:14 PM
oisin5199
by Kai_Mah'gra
Oct 3rd, 2005
03:35:06 PM
Me for one
by sabrefox
Oct 3rd, 2005
03:36:30 PM
....and why should I care?
by Kai_Mah'gra
Oct 3rd, 2005
03:37:37 PM
thanks sabrefox
by Kai_Mah'gra
Oct 3rd, 2005
03:39:33 PM
Meaning...?
by sabrefox
Oct 3rd, 2005
03:41:12 PM
and what's up with insulting me?
by sabrefox
Oct 3rd, 2005
03:42:42 PM
Yes you're right greatn........no one cares.....
by Kai_Mah'gra
Oct 3rd, 2005
03:44:01 PM
sabrefox
by Kai_Mah'gra
Oct 3rd, 2005
03:45:52 PM
the discussion was starting to move in a more positive direction
by oisin5199
Oct 3rd, 2005
03:57:09 PM
Jesus, Kai
by Ribbons
Oct 3rd, 2005
03:58:50 PM
So anyone responding to a post that is not direct specifically t
by sabrefox
Oct 3rd, 2005
03:58:52 PM
Thanks for the backup, Ribbons
by sabrefox
Oct 3rd, 2005
03:59:52 PM
Kai, you sound angry
by Billyeveryteen
Oct 3rd, 2005
04:01:13 PM
Moving on....
by sabrefox
Oct 3rd, 2005
04:05:58 PM
You guys wanna talk about the movie
by Bass Ackwards
Oct 3rd, 2005
04:11:13 PM
and Billy
by Bass Ackwards
Oct 3rd, 2005
04:12:33 PM
What's wrong with you people?
by Harlow
Oct 3rd, 2005
04:14:46 PM
we're not trying to dictate the talkback
by oisin5199
Oct 3rd, 2005
04:15:52 PM
If they don't make anymore movies
by Juggernaut125
Oct 3rd, 2005
04:16:43 PM
Um, no
by Bass Ackwards
Oct 3rd, 2005
04:22:00 PM
oh well, I guess the dream that AICN would be a civilized place
by oisin5199
Oct 3rd, 2005
04:26:17 PM
Kai, I understand your point, but does it have to be so venemous
by Lenny Nero
Oct 3rd, 2005
04:30:11 PM
Kai, I understand your point, but does it have to be so venemous
by Lenny Nero
Oct 3rd, 2005
04:30:12 PM
Yes, I know life is tough
by Bass Ackwards
Oct 3rd, 2005
04:31:54 PM
BASS IS THE BEST
by Harlow
Oct 3rd, 2005
04:32:48 PM
I'm sorry Bass..
by Billyeveryteen
Oct 3rd, 2005
04:33:42 PM
Two by two, hands of blue...
by Billyeveryteen
Oct 3rd, 2005
04:44:39 PM
ok, to practice what I preach - I am a leaf on the wind, watch m
by oisin5199
Oct 3rd, 2005
04:46:19 PM
I haven't thrown any hate, insults, tried to impede your dis
by Bass Ackwards
Oct 3rd, 2005
04:46:44 PM
Kaylee was a sweetheart
by Juggernaut125
Oct 3rd, 2005
04:48:21 PM
I loved the movie but . . .
by RogueScribner
Oct 3rd, 2005
04:49:01 PM
Hands of Blue
by Harlow
Oct 3rd, 2005
04:50:15 PM
blue hands
by oisin5199
Oct 3rd, 2005
04:50:57 PM
the comics
by oisin5199
Oct 3rd, 2005
04:55:13 PM
oh yeah, and Book in the comics [comics SPOILERS]
by oisin5199
Oct 3rd, 2005
04:58:10 PM
Bass Ackwards
by Ribbons
Oct 3rd, 2005
05:00:15 PM
Thanks for the info
by Billyeveryteen
Oct 3rd, 2005
05:00:49 PM
So - for those who've read it - is the comic...
by Childe Roland
Oct 3rd, 2005
05:03:36 PM
yeah I see the point
by oisin5199
Oct 3rd, 2005
05:07:03 PM
In no way is the comic essential for the movie
by oisin5199
Oct 3rd, 2005
05:08:37 PM
oops, you said you saw the series
by oisin5199
Oct 3rd, 2005
05:10:03 PM
the comics aren't required to enjoy the movie
by RogueScribner
Oct 3rd, 2005
05:11:18 PM
all you Serenity Hatas...
by omarthesnake
Oct 3rd, 2005
05:27:36 PM
wolf at the door... are you incapable of arguing the point?
by Razorback
Oct 3rd, 2005
06:04:03 PM
I am no Serenity hater, omarthesnake
by Razorback
Oct 3rd, 2005
06:06:45 PM
who trashed Star Wars?
by DarthHomercles
Oct 3rd, 2005
06:30:13 PM
He may have been referring to me
by sabrefox
Oct 3rd, 2005
06:48:34 PM
Re: Trashing Serenity's plot, characters, writing....
by sabrefox
Oct 3rd, 2005
06:57:47 PM
I liked those movies the first time I saw them
by gamesix
Oct 3rd, 2005
07:02:34 PM
FUCKING FLOP LMAO
by GiftedInThePants
Oct 3rd, 2005
07:42:56 PM
BTW this low BO happens
by GiftedInThePants
Oct 3rd, 2005
07:45:54 PM
Watch my posts get deleted :D
by GiftedInThePants
Oct 3rd, 2005
07:46:44 PM
I have 2 words as a REALITY CHECK for those trying to spin the S
by Commando Cody
Oct 3rd, 2005
08:04:33 PM
Bass Ackwards, you da man!!!!!!
by Kai_Mah'gra
Oct 3rd, 2005
08:06:02 PM
RE: Ribbons - ' "You and who?" "Me." That doesn't seem l
by Kai_Mah'gra
Oct 3rd, 2005
08:19:48 PM
Feel free to continue....
by sabrefox
Oct 3rd, 2005
08:25:51 PM
quick rundown of comments
by thevisitor
Oct 3rd, 2005
09:02:55 PM
Don't be ridiculous, Kai
by Ribbons
Oct 3rd, 2005
09:41:38 PM
Speaking of 'Galaxy Quest...'
by Ribbons
Oct 3rd, 2005
09:44:20 PM
I'm still here for you, poor downtrodden Whedonites.
by cutest_of_borg
Oct 3rd, 2005
09:48:20 PM
cutest of borg
by Ribbons
Oct 3rd, 2005
09:52:00 PM
Ribbons
by cutest_of_borg
Oct 3rd, 2005
09:58:28 PM
Key difference between Serenity and Sky Captain...
by FelatioHornblowr
Oct 3rd, 2005
10:01:40 PM
Protecter
by Billyeveryteen
Oct 3rd, 2005
10:09:54 PM
Giftedinthepants...
by fanboy71
Oct 3rd, 2005
10:10:34 PM
Sky Captain was what it seemed like: A Failed Experiment
by chickychow
Oct 3rd, 2005
10:13:07 PM
"Serenity" is a shit title.
by Darth Philbin
Oct 3rd, 2005
10:51:43 PM
I go away for a bit and the box office shit is back
by oisin5199
Oct 3rd, 2005
10:59:48 PM
Ribbons
by Kai_Mah'gra
Oct 3rd, 2005
11:07:27 PM
Kai and Bass, we can't miss you if you don't leave.
by Lenny Nero
Oct 3rd, 2005
11:16:04 PM
Kai
by Ribbons
Oct 3rd, 2005
11:39:21 PM
The Problem With Serenity Haters
by DarthBen
Oct 3rd, 2005
11:39:28 PM
Bash your head into it Lenny?
by Bass Ackwards
Oct 4th, 2005
12:02:26 AM
shitty final battle and TV sets
by oisin5199
Oct 4th, 2005
12:18:11 AM
but I respect your criticisms, hottoq
by oisin5199
Oct 4th, 2005
12:20:15 AM
and whoops
by Bass Ackwards
Oct 4th, 2005
12:22:59 AM
oisin5199
by MasterWhedon
Oct 4th, 2005
12:23:04 AM
Did I really write "fine form," like, eight times?
by MasterWhedon
Oct 4th, 2005
12:25:08 AM
I'm a serenity fan
by samuraisix
Oct 4th, 2005
12:30:36 AM
Bass, you should know better than to blatantly assume why I post
by Lenny Nero
Oct 4th, 2005
12:58:51 AM
Lenny, Blatantly assume?
by Bass Ackwards
Oct 4th, 2005
01:43:53 AM
$10 Million Opening Weekend
by fiester
Oct 4th, 2005
02:17:01 AM
just when you thought the talkback was becoming more civilized
by DarthHomercles
Oct 4th, 2005
02:33:44 AM
Wow, Firefly is good...
by grendel824
Oct 4th, 2005
02:59:06 AM

by Harlow
Oct 4th, 2005
03:03:01 AM
Sequels
by Harlow
Oct 4th, 2005
03:14:52 AM
thevisitor
by Juggernaut125
Oct 4th, 2005
03:39:15 AM

by Harlow
Oct 4th, 2005
04:07:49 AM
Commando Cody, Sky Captain cost twice as much as Serenity
by Razorback
Oct 4th, 2005
06:29:47 AM
Makes you wonder what is really keeping people away...
by The True Priapic
Oct 4th, 2005
06:55:54 AM
Thank Herc and Tonay for the anger...
by ComputerGuy68
Oct 4th, 2005
07:55:36 AM
Oh please, now you have a conspiracy theory about Browncoat assh
by Razorback
Oct 4th, 2005
09:04:40 AM
Commando cody
by optimus122
Oct 4th, 2005
09:23:00 AM
All of hottoq's posts are missing
by sabrefox
Oct 4th, 2005
09:31:44 AM
So the Real Question is...
by DarthBen
Oct 4th, 2005
09:36:34 AM
But Seriously...
by DarthBen
Oct 4th, 2005
09:39:32 AM
The chains were there to move equipment
by Big Jim
Oct 4th, 2005
09:40:39 AM
criticisms of Serenity, pt 2
by sabrefox
Oct 4th, 2005
09:41:10 AM
Bummer, since I appreciated his comments.
by sabrefox
Oct 4th, 2005
09:50:05 AM
Felling like one of those aliens in the grabber-thing from Toy S
by sabrefox
Oct 4th, 2005
09:53:08 AM
Brown-starfishes...
by B.NyeTheUruk-Hai