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EVERWOOD!! ALIAS!! Thursday Returnees!!
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I am still worn out, and continue to thank the gods this parade of network premieres is almost at its end.
Even so? Decorum demands we pause and make with the shout-outs to the WB’s “Everwood” and ABC’s “Alias,” veteran series being sacrificed on the altar of the Thursday-night Nielsens.
“Everwood,” a cloying and maladroit hug-and-learn hour which inexplicably evolved into one of the most entertaining series on television last season, now has to take on CBS’ “CSI,” ABC’s “The Night Stalker,” NBC’s “The Apprentice,” Fox’s “Reunion” and the UPN sitcoms “Cuts” and “Love Inc.”
“Alias,” a phenomenally entertaining suspense thriller that inexplicably devolved into an flaccid absurdity that saw Sydney Bristow working side-by-side with the man who ordered her fiance murdered, capped a tedious fourth season with a fascinating final two minutes. It will explain (perhaps) who Michael Vaughn really is as it enters a fifth season opposite CBS’ “Survivor,” Fox’s “The OC,” the WB’s “Smallville,” the NBC sitcoms “Joey” and “Will & Grace” and the UPN sitcoms “Everybody Loves Chris” and “Eve.”
“Alias” season premiere: 8 p.m. Thursday. ABC.
“Everwood” season premiere: 9 p.m. Thursday. The WB.
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i wouldnt be surprised. also, First?
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I hope its good , it will have to be in this new timeslot to survive another season. Then again I heard no matter what this is the last season so whatever..
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Syd wakes up in the hospital bed, Vaughn is next to her. Syd: get away from me, you liar!
Vaughn: what? no, wait, let me explain! as I was saying in the car, my real name is not Michael Vaughn, it's Michael Balls! I had to change it because all the kids were making fun of me at school.. that all!
Syd: ok.. where's Nadia?
Vaughn: she's gone.
Syd: what??
Vaughn: yes, she was a Fembot.. We knew all along, sadly. Anyway, you have to get out of here, Sloane is waiting for you at SD6.
Syd: but I thought we raided SD6 3 years ago!
Vaughn: no silly, that was all just a holodeck simulation.. it never happened. Everything is back to normal! Now put on this Sexy Nurse costume and we'll get out of here. Marshall will explain the situation further by spewing a load of pseudo-technobable on the way. END TEASER (whoohoo! I can't not wait!)
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This talkback is the REASON I made a talkback account. I mean, yes I commented in the kolchak one first . . . but still . . . this is the REASON. I can NOT wait for this to come! It can't come any sooner.
I agree with most people that season three was really . . . ok, extremely off par from season two. Than season four was like a collection of the best mediocre episodes of season two . . .
BUT in saying that, the last five episodes of the fourth season were up there with some of the BEST of season two! And I honestly believe that this season may be just as, if not more good than season two. I think anyone here should at least skip the O.C. I know the mid-30 year old talkbackers love oh so much . . . and just watch the premiere!
I promise, it'll be great. If not, well, punto's version of the opening of the premiere will be made . . . and God will destroy us all by drowning us in his urine. -
rofl . . . ooops . . . I forgot to say what show I was talking about in that comment/talkback/whatever the hell you call it . . . Alias is what I was talking about . . . rofl . . . w00t to Alias!
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That Smallville, Alias, The O.C., and Joey were all going to be on at the same time, now I hear "Everybody Hates Chris" is really good. I know I won't find much sympathy here, as most Talkbackers believe you must only like one type of show and hate all else, but I like all of these shows. I'll admit, it has become something of a loyalty issue, I've come this far with Smallville and Alias so I should stick it out through good and bad. And the O.C. is just good old nighttime soap. Looks like it's "So long" Mr. Tribianni.
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before Lost? What is filling that time right now? Last night it was last week's episode of Lost. Alias does not stand a chance Thursday at 8:00.
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JJ Abrahms may be the master of the plot twist, but he does it at the expense of his characters. That's how you get a Season Four with Sydney working with Sloane. It just doesn't make sense.
Everyone keeps saying that JJ has some master plan for Lost, but based on the way he's dealt with Alias over the years, I think he's building up a big mystery and has no idea where it's headed.
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Season One and Two are terrific. I share the opinion that season three had a definite decrease in quality, but season four was just fucking ridiculous. What made Alias great was it's long arc, and then they removed it. To the poster that said the last 5 episodes were fantastic...you're welcome to your opinion, but I'm sorry, season four's finale was the stupidest thing I've ever seen. Zombie-like things, apocalypse, it seemed more like a Resident Evil movie. I have given up on Alias, but I'll still watch it to see what happens to these characters. I just hate how each year JJ says "yeah, we had some setbacks last year, but we're going to have the best year yet". He keeps saying it, but it never happens,
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To be honest, I think Season 3 was a lot better on DVD than it was on TV. But season 4 had no momentum even when shown without reruns, and I stopped believing in the characters. Even seeing Irina again did not save it. The main problem is that the writers were unable to maintain the set up of season 1 with Syd leading a double life (well triple life actually) and surrounded by great villains every week and always in danger of being discovered and trying to avenge her dead lover. Anything was possible back then, and I was sure we'd see the fiance alive again at some poine (alas no). They understandably could not maintain that tension, but they haven't improved on it either. Syd's friends got boring and then got killed or sent away along with any sense of an alias. SD-6 started to look stupid and so was destroyed and replaced by forgettable guest star baddies and faceless organizations with hopelessly vague goals. Sloane has switched sides so many times even he doesn't know what he's playing at anymore. I still say Sark has no point being on this show if he's not Syd's half brother. And now Vauhn is a double agent after we've watched him worry about learning his father or Jack Bristow or his wife was a traitor? Instead of recapping old episodes, they should start each night saying "here's what we'd like you to forget." I miss the James Bond meets Indiana Jones comic book-ness, the colorful rogues' gallery, or the possibility that there was an actual end to the Rambaldi stuff, and I'm sorry they never figured out how to make those weekly cliffhangers work without getting tired. I understand why they've made many of the changes they've made over the run of the show, but I feel they've painted themselves into a corner. I'll take a gander this season, but I feel that this show doesn't know where else to go.
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No one's excited that Amy Acker is joining the cast this season?
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I agree, Drath and DanielKurland. Season one and two were fantastic, building character arcs and fucked up double crosses while keeping Milo Rambaldi's machinations front and center as Sydney's unfolding destiny. Then season three happened. Watching it on DVD, I felt the writers and producers almost completely abandoned the Rambaldi arc, which completely sucked. I care a lot more about Sydney as some prophet or savior than I do about her and Vaughn (or whatever his name is now) having relationship problems. The two factors are intertwined, I realize, but season three used Vaughn gratuitously in ways that didn't make a whole lot of sense. Thus, most people agree season three was the derailment of Alias. Season four tried to refocus on Rambaldi, adding Sydney's hot new sister (who I find so uninteresting I can't even remember her name) for no reason other than providing eye candy and her involvement in a few smaller plot inventions -- unimportant shit, really. Also, the plot setup of season four with Sloane once again in charge, along with season four's slick new opening montage and music, was terrible compared to seasons 1-3. Get back to telling Sydney's story, JJ. Get back to revealing her larger role in Rambaldi's design. Nothing else about Alias pulls in viewers like Sydney's role in the Rambaldi arc, so for God's sake forget about all this other, unimportant bullshit and move it forward. If you don't, Alias will have the sordid distinction of being compared forever to The X-Files.
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that's exactly why abc is giving it the programming equivalent of an execution order. it's the network's way of ridding itself of the show, which is pretty damn expensive each episode even though it doesn't pull in enough viewers. and why pair it with "lost" again? abc tried that last season and it still got shitty ratings. as for the actual quality of the show, let me say this: i've only watched seasons three and four. for all the bitching long-time fans gave season three, i thought it was one of the best shows on television. season four, though, really was shite.
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No point being excited if the show's on it's way out.
No Garner, no Alias, I don't see it surviving without her.
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You should check out seasons one and two of Alias. Seriously, they utterly blow away seasons three and four. I'm glad you liked season three, though. That's cool.
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ABC asked Alias producers to make the first episodes standalone so it would be able to take in Lost viewers better without them being confused. It wasn't the producers fault, it was ABC, they wanted money.
I don't know if this is the end of Alias or not, I think it will do good . . . but the first five episodes I still stand by as being great. Even though they were 'different' from season two, they made a five-episode story arc. And that's the best they could do since they finally decided to tell ABC stfu and mind your own business.
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Thanks for the information about season 4. I didn't realize ABC executives had mandated that the first episodes of season 4 had to be standalone. It makes sense, then. Jennifer Garner and Victor Garber both win an Emmy for Best Actor in a Drama Series a few years ago, so despite Alias's pedestrian ratings, ABC keeps the show in production. They paired it with Lost last year, but due to Alias's plummeting quality, Lost became the ratings and critical acclaim grabber. Good to know, Spoda.
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You can't just walk away from a show like that. And she seems pretty reasonable, I don't think she will bolt. Having Sydney leave, means the end of Alias. And if Vaughn is someone else, why the hell did he go crazy looking for his "Dad"?
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Why do people get confused by this? Just because Vaughn isn't Vaughn doesn't mean that the man's father didn't get killed by Irina.
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That shows like Alias, and Buffy, etc. are always hated by network execs (and many viewers) because of their long story arcs. And yet, two of last seasons biggest hits. (Lost & Desperate Housewives) are built on the long, convuluted story-arc style. I know the network wanted Alias to be more friendly to new viewers, and both Buffy and Angel suffered from network requests for more one-shot type stories. Execs, just give the creators and most viewers a little credit. If I miss an ep of Alias, I'm pissed. If I miss an ep of Joey or Two & a Half Men, I can still laugh watching it next week.
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He's not Michael Vaughn, he's Michael VAUGHAN! And he wishes people would stop mispelling it.
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The show lost steam after season 2.
I still like to watch it (it's great water-cooler chat) but I have a feeling this season is really gonna misfire with Garner's pregnancy being written in. The suits moved it to Thurs at 8 so they have a built in excuse to pull the plug after this season (same goes for Smallville) -
"...It's Michael Vartan. You see, I'm an actor. And you are too. You're name is Jennifer Garner, and you really could do so much better than to waste your personal time with..." WHAM!!!!! Affleck T-Bones the car, impregnates a semi-conscious Garner, and takes in a Red Sox game.
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...but if she takes extended pregnancy leave, and the viewing figures fall, the show is off the air. Anyway, who's to say Mrs Affleck won't change her mind? Remember Madonna suddenly becoming a pain in the ass after she married Sean Penn?
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Reminds me of that episode of "Futurama" with "The Scary Door."
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Maybe I'll watch tonight. Maybe I won't. I think this show not only jumped the shark, it also raped it. Have you seen the look in a shark's eye after it's been raped? It's black and dead, like a doll's eye...
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I remember when Amy A joined my unit. MMMMMMM, unit joining.
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That premiere was so- so- it was so unbelievable. It was probably horrific to Vaughn fans, but I swear . . . that was one of the saddest moments of the show. What did everyone else think??
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it was horrific! wtf?
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Affleck killed Vaughn.
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I think that while Jack, Syd, and vaughn was in the room they devised an extremely risky plan, and it involved Sydney giving Vaughn something in his drink. I mean, it's alias, he can't really be dead. I still thought it was extremely good, like, great acting and everything.
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This show is destroyed, and it upset me. Ever since Lena Olin decided to not continue with the show, it'd been going downhill. Now, great characters once on the show (Will, Francie, Irina, Sark) are nowhere to be seen. ALIAS is a perfect example of a show that was ruined by outside forces. Obviously, the plot isn't the way it should be. If Lena Olin didn't leave, there would be no Katya and Elena Derevko. If ABC didn't ask for stand-alone episodes, season 4 would have been much better, and there would have actually been an explanation to the season 3 finale (which there was not...the form described sydney as being the cia's project all her life, something that her dad sanctioned...a rambaldi project..yet they never followed with that storyline...instead, they changed the storyline to put in an excuse for Olin not coming back)...then when Olin did come back, they used Project Helix as an excuse. This show has not been in the writers hands for a long time..and that is the reason for its downfall. In addition, Ben Affleck was the last straw. As a result, Vaughn is dead, Sydney is pregnant...and now the entire plot of season 5 is completely different than it was originally supposed to be. I mean...everything is so horrible...Vaughn's entire story is so retardedly complex that it makes no sense. The poster who wrote saying that the beginning of an episode should say "Forget that this happened," was right. Nothing makes sense..things happened to characters that shouldn't have happened. Basically...this show, which was once my favorite of all time...which was once so excited, suspensful, and amazing..is now a disgrace. Let's not forget now, that it is because of another outside force, that will result in the cancellation of Alias. (Garner leaving as a result of Affleck- ratings going down because outside forces have screwed this show offer so badly, etc.) I truly am sorry that this show didn't continue with the potential it had...the Rambaldi plotline had potential...the character of Irina had so much potential...but now, everyhing is screwed...
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when a character that dies on show that brings back the dead more often than BTVS. Sloan's wife, Irena (twice), fake Francie, Vaughn's dad (kinda), yada yada. Not for once second did I think he was actually dead.
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Sonny Corleone didn't get shot that many times. Have these professional killers ever heard of shooting someone in the head?
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In other words, show's over, thanks a lot, Affleck. Did we really need another reason to despise you?
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Not a terrible episode tonight, and I was glad ABC didn't mandate it be a standalone. Good call, suits. Too bad about making that standalone mandate last year, eh? Nah. You got what you wanted, so I'm sure everyone's happy. Tonight I was glad to see Vaughn die. Not that I didn't dig Vaughn's plight in the larger plot arc, but his hopelessly convoluted story now makes almost no sense. Hence, it was necessary for him to die in order to erase all lingering details and focus on Sydney again. Did anyone detect, though, that the actors and writers were just going through the motions now, rather than allowing inspiration to guide them? The episode seemed kind of... flat... muted somehow. Maybe it'll pick up and get intense again, but it gave me a weird vibe. We'll see.
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I agree, MaxCali. Whatever Affleck touches, creatively or literally, slowly turns to shit. It's amazing how he does that. Garner'll divorce him in a year once she realizes this.
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A buddy told me over the summer that Garner wasn't happy working with her ex-bf (Vartan) and as one of the show's producers she was pushing for Vaughn to die ASAP. I just figured they were smarter than to say "Surprise, we killed a lead actor minutes after building a huge arc around him!"
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Sep 29, 2005 11:38:37 PM CDT
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!! DAMN YOU JJ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Too much LOST and too much MI:3 in this diet these days. He's killing off Alias so he can go focus on all the other stuff. BUT, it's also like it's been posted above: Alias is like Star Trek, you're never really dead. So, we'll see where it goes from here.
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Forgot it was on, and I don't even really care. In season two, this would have killed me. Apparently, Vaguhn died? That's pretty huge. Maybe this season can turn itself around...
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Isn't tommorow the day Serenity tanks at the box office?
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What a let down! For a split second I thought they actually said his real name was Rousseau and we had our first LOST crossover...but nooooo. It's some boring nothing name that means even less than nothing to people who have been watching the show for any length of time. And is Vaughn a super soldier like Evil Francie? He doesn't just walk away from an auto accident, he beats up and escapes from health brutes who weren't in any accident and gets shot up by a machine gun and is still talking hours later and after major surgery! I know Alias plays fast and loose with human resilience but come the fuck on!!! I don't know how I feel about them killing him for real though. If I were Vartan I'd petition to get written onto LOST as the other pilot who was captured by "the others."
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ALIAS has sucked since Lauren was "revealed" to be a double agent in FULL DISCLOSURE (Season 3 episode 11 -exactly half way through that season). It was the first time the writers took the easy, expected route. Until then, ALIAS was the best thing on television and one of the greatest shows ever broadcast (to the poster who's only seen seasons 3 and 4, don't you have a DVD player?). Since that moment, the show has very slowly (painfully) fallen into the implausible, unemotional, brittle, zombie-fied, recycled crap it is today. First mistake - making Lauren a double agent (see above). Second - Making Sloane a good guy (beginning of season 4). Third - Making Irina a good guy (end of last season). Fourth - Pretending that Vaughn's death means anything at all after so many missteps. Before, we cared about everyone and the show was built on genuine risk to both convention and the characters. When the characters cease to matter, so does the show. In short, the show is boring and has been for a season and a half.
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in that it was just plain old boring. Train to yawnsville, brother. I used to love this show and seasons 1 % 2 dvd are my favorites, but man...what a busted show now. I should of watched smallville instead. :(
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Season 1 Ep1 - Syd tells overtly sensative fiance "the truth" said Fiance ends up dead. Syd becomes a double agent vowing to take down SD6. Season 5 Ep1 - Syd's fiance Vaughn/Andre tells Syd "the truth" and gets killed for it. Syd vows to track down Profit 5 to protect herself and her unborn child (and avenging Vaughns death) anyone else seeing a pattern here or is it just me? This show hasn't just jumped the shark, it's been eaten by it and poo'd out.
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I never understood what the hell Sydney saw in Vaughn, who always came off as bland and wimpy. The writers tried to make him all dark and badass like Jack, but Vaughn just came off like Diet Coke of Jack, one calorie Jack, not Jack enough. Off to the Loser's Lounge with you, Vartan!
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Eventhough there were shades of The Davinci Code. I thought it was solid. Better than their 28 days later episode.
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Sonny Corleone didn't get shot that many times.
LMAO thats some funny ass comment dude , seriously :)
Ya so far it looks like the show is not going to improve back to its season 1-3 greatness , ya I know a lot of people think season 3 was bad but it really wasn't bad at all. Season 4 was lame till half way through then was just ok the rest of the way. -
I'm glad someone else made that connection. Vaughn didn't just die, he got the definative dead-dead-dead death. He got the ol' Sonny Corleone (completely destroying his character, since he's stared down the barrel of gun a hundred times before and always got out of it, rather than STANDING AROUND WAITING TO BE SHOT), then stayed alive so that a doctor could verify his death- with the intent being that fans can't hold out hope that he's alive. I hve to say the cloying Sarah McLauclan song was the most blatantly manipulative crap this show has ever done. Even more cheap than Buffy's sad-song moments (some of which were hard to top). BTW, anyone else notice the lack of an opening crdit sequence- they didn't want to tip their hand with a sans-Vartan sequence.
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Sep 30, 2005 12:30:22 PM CDT
Exactly SypGuy. They just didn't add enough moxy to the cha
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and when they did, it seemed forced and misplaced. Jack would still mop the floor with Vaughn's ass!
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I thought it was a very solid ep as well. I've been to a few forums and all I can say is people on message boards are VERY comfortable complaining.
As for the credit sequence, Vartan was never a part of them. I think they realized that last years, while not being able to pull in new veiwers, that new credit sequence also got pretty old fast as well. And since they changed the credit sequence to begin with, why go back to the old which by the way Vartan wasn't a part of either.
I'm just happy that the fans followed, which is what ABC wanted. It got a higher rating then Joey and The O.C.
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to the person who said vartan's name wasnt in the credits, you're wrong, his name has been in the opening credits since episode 1 and in fact his name was even there last night. as for the episode itself i guess i'm in the minority who liked it as well. of course i dont believe for a second vaugh's really dead, not after that last 4 seasons. of course its possible he is and all but i dont think he is so yeah. lol
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i did notice balthazar ghetty's name in the credits and yet he wasnt even in the episode. now i know that happens in many shows that a main character isnt there but their name still but this woulda been his first appearance ever. that was kinda odd, i was actually wondering if the same was gonna happen to that rachel girl from The Inside but at least she did have a small part to justify her name being there. oh and maybe i somehow missed it but i didnt see marsha's name at all and until he appeard, i thought maybe he had left the series, glad i'm wrong. i probably just wasnt paying attention when his name popped up.
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I think it kicked more ass than ass that has ever been . . . ok, not better than season two. But it's getting there . . .
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is 100% correct.
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Irina was never supposed to bad, just mysterious. Keeping her mysterious after so long would be ridiculous. Half the people posting are just jumping the shark because they liked Vartan and now he's gone.
Oh, and Olin has signed up for at least three episodes this season . . . and I'm betting she'll do seven. That's just my guess though . . . for sure three though.
Anyways, Alias got 8.2, came in second in the timeslot. It only was behind will and grace in the second half because will and grace got 9 million something while survivor got 17 mill . . . so it is staying.
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Trust me , Sydney asked Jack what should they do , we see sydney giving Vaughn something to drink..a little while later his heart stops..closed casket during the funeral while the song dirty little secret is playing..Also you would think sydney would have been way more upset at his death sitting next to him when the attendant puts the cover over Vaughns face..trust me he is still alive , they did the old put some chemical in his drink trick to slow his heart to almost no beat , just like they did with sloan in a previous episode..his death wasn't heroic , no way they make him go out that way..Either way he wont be around much this season as rumor has it he is going to be a rival chef on that kitchen confidential show.
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...it'll be one of the biggest and most laughable shark-jumps in TV history. How can they bring him back after that waaay protracted deathbed scene and funeral? How are you supposed to take any life-and-death struggles on Alias seriously after that? Ironically I was pissed to see him go, but I'll be even more pissed if they bring him back after this. And yeah Vartan is going to be on an episode of Kitchen Confidential, with Bradley Cooper of course
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I don't think I'll care, as long as the way he survived is reasonable. I don't want something really unreasonable like "It wasn't Irina who Jack shot, it was her clone"
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ALIAS lost its suspension of disbelief long ago. Sloane's wife didn't really die from poisoning (season 2 ), Irina came back from the dead twice (season 1's was brilliant, season 4's was a joke, but so was the explanation of why she was dead), Allison Doren came back twice (season 3), Sloane rose from the dead as well (3) and now there are rumors of the return of Lauren. It's strange that the producers brag about how no one should worry that Vaughn's died because "it's ALIAS, which means no one's really ever dead." That's ridiculous. It's as though they're proud that the show has become danger-free. Who wants to watch a show that contains characters who have nothing at stake? No character on ALIAS has mattered since midway through season 3 and when characters cease to matter, so does the show.
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Forgive the subject pun but I just had to. After five years of watching Alias they finally kill off a major character...and one I have wanted dead since the beginning. Sorry, I have always been somebody that rooted for the Will Tippin sort of clueless guy. I can just relate to them a bit more. Since I myself, am clueless. Alias really hasn't been REALLY good since the Superbowl episode in Season 2. You should never wrap everything up before your show ENDS which is essentially what they did. Alias does stretch belief factor usually to its breaking point but...last night it snapped it like a twig. Vaughn, after getting shot with a machine gun at such close range should have had a trough where his back used to be. Instead, not only does he make it to a hospital...but he remains conscious! I also think Sydney should be held responsible for his death...since she actually gave him water via his mouth after a doctor told her his insides were torn up. Syd may have to beat herself up for the rest of the season. That being said though, I am going to watch this show to the end...which if I had to guess, will probably be in May.
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zer0cool2k2 is very funny.
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Not only have they jumped it, not only have they raped it, but they've taken it to Benihana's and had it sliced and diced for sushi and shark fin soup! Kee-Ryst! What has happened to my once favorite show?! Seasons 1 & 2, great! Season 3, I smell trouble. Season 4, hot and cold, sometimes very cold, but at the end, signs of a comeback, especially the cliffhanger/season-ender. And now? The season opener for the fifth season? The first one since the "Afflapregnation" of the show's star? Well, just read the above TBs and you'll get the gist of it. Her former real-life boyfriend and her character's fiance is put through it big time! He gets t-boned on his side of the car, right in the door by an SUV! Then he's drugged and tortured! Then he fights his way out of there and jumps out of a high window! All of that with a shoulder that was dislocated and set just before the fight! Wow! But that's not all! Then he gets riddled with enough automatic weapons fire, that I too, also thought of Sonny Corleone. All that and he can still talk, with his lungs perforated like swiss cheese? He must be the friggin' Energizer Bunny! Or the object of hate and jealousy for one ghost screenplay writer by the name of Benjamin Affleck! I haven't gone back to the tape yet, but I think I saw him behind one of the cars emptying a clip or two into Vartan at the end. He is one of my least favorite actors (The whole J-Lo/Bennifer thing, God, I'm so tired of hearing his name.). Will Vartan be back? Probably. But I no longer care. I've got the first 3 seasons on DVD. That's enough for me. I'm done. My opinion, this is the last season anyway. By the way, did you notice how they creatively hid her belly behind a variety of objects so we wouldn't notice that she's pregnant? They even used a train at one point! I laughed out loud!! A TRAIN!!
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Anyone else catch Everwood, pretty good ep I thought. Although I hope they don't drag out the Andy-Nina-Jake triangle too long. And poor amy with her crush on a gay boy. (For the record, i only watch this show because I have some REALLY hot friends at school that watch it, so I tape it for them and then we watch it together). Anyhoo, Alias, not terrible, I too thought he said his real name was Rosseu(sp), had to do a rewind. My only hope is that they now just run as far away from season 4 as possible, which seems to be the case. Not going to point out alias's past mistakes anymore, because you guys have done a great job of doing so already.
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Did noone notice the quotes from JJ when talking about the fifth season that said they have a really exciting story arc planned for Vaughan?
Garner and Vartan broke up between seasons 3 and 4, there's been no sudden "get him off the show" request from her (if there had been, he'd have died in season 4).
As for the premiere episode ... I liked it, but I did notice the slight flatness to it all, emotionally. It felt a bit detatched. But then Alias has never really had that much great acting (IMO), it's always been the plot that drives it forward. Oh, and it seems to have been given a dash of Galactica's shaky-cam documentary-style camera work. Was a bit new for Alias.
So, we have a new arc for season 5. I thought they were going to reveal the "15th century manuscript" thing to have been written by Rambaldi, but they haven't ... yet, anyway. It'll be interesting to see where it goes from here. -
I can't believe how much this season opener felt...I don't know...different. It wasn't fun. It wasn't a chick version of Bond or a spy version of the X-files crossed with Run Lola Run. It was tedious. It seems these people (writers, actors, caterers, JJ) have already moved on. I wish they would have just cancelled the series first. And I think killing Vaughn was a horrendous idea. At least Varten won't have to struggle through the crapfest this season looks like it's going to be (ohhhh look at Sydney try and balance being a mommy and a spy...it's going to be whacky). Oh well, I've been Tivo-ing too much stuff anyway. Four seasons were enough. At least Lost still kicks ass.
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I can't wait til one arc makes tons of fans of Lost go against it. Now just thinking about that . . . that deserves a wow.
The writers and producers don't have the same vision you do, and since they can see what is coming in the long haul, they know what they should do. But fans then have to go and mess with their vision if they don't like one small thing . . . and then it becomes a huge hole. And no matter what producers and writers do, they can't fix it.
There's no doubt in my mind it'll happen on Lost, well, it won't if J.J. explains that fans were the true things that ruined the show; especially the whiny ones that don't like to wait and see where their taking things.
And everytime I realize this one word just goes through my head . . . wow. >_> -
I'm glad you have such faith, Spoda. It must be easy to program for you. I love how you think the writers and producers planned for Affleck to knock up Garner so Sydney could be pregnant in season 5. Must be part of their "vision" for the long haul. I liked Vaughn, true. And maybe you're right...maybe the producers and JJ wrote in the Alias bible that Vaughn would be killed and Sydney would be pregnant in season 5. But I doubt. This show does seem to be run by outside influences and it seems the creators try to write around it. Which is less then ideal for them. And I definitely don't feel like I'm ruining the show by not watching. I don't blame the fans that quit watching Twin Peaks after the reveal of who killed Laura Palmer (even though they missed some great Black Lodge White Lodge stuff). It wasn't for them anymore. That's fine. Move on. Alias still exists. You can watch it. Have fun, man. Hope you love it. I became an Alias fan when Sydney was a college student/ spy trying to out SD-6 for the tragic death of her fianc
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Hey, Spoda. I just read my post and it came off as really condescending and that wasn't my intent. I am really glad you like the show (really). I hope for your sake that this season turns out to be as good as Season 2 (my personal favorite as well). Anyway...sorry and hope you enjoy the season.
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Just looking at an article on TVGuide.com and there was an interview with JJ. The article says, "First off, J.J. hinted that rumors of Vaughn's whacking have been greatly exaggerated: "It ain't over till the fat lady sings," he teased. "You have to see what the story is. And when I said at the beginning of the year that [Vartan] is back this season, I wasn't lying. So, in the way that Alias does things that you might not expect
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Things just ain't the same without her.
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I'm surprised to see several of you wishing Francie was back. To me, she epitomized the whole, Alias jumping off the tracks, phenomonen. I wouldn't be surprised if the dead Vaughan is a "copy" and the real one is held somewhere. I'm sure they didn't kill him though. And that's why it's so hard to care when he gets shot. I was only tentatively watching it this season because of the last minutes of last year's finale. But I think I'm now done with this one. It's very rare that I stop watching a show once I've been into it but honestly (and I'm very ashamed to admit this), Joey is a better show. And I can only watch two at a time on my Dish, with Smallville getting the first slot, of course. .... "alias jjabrams='sharkJumper'"
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