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Information about the possible quality of JACK FROST

Published at:  Sep 18, 1998 6:01:47 AM CDT

Well, I've been following JACK FROST for a long long time. I read the script when it was known as FROSTY THE SNOWMAN. I loved that script, it was heart warming and touching.... BUT it's a Warner Brothers film, so by definition it is almost assuredly doomed to mediocrity... right? Well this sneaky bastard says otherwise. It could be that 'sneaky bastard' is a Warner suit in disguise, preying on us like we're some sort of dimwitted obese geeks, while that certainly describes me, I'm sure it doesn't come close to being a blanket description for all of you. So I say we hold on, keep our fingers crossed and hang out for Test Screenings results to come in. To paraphrase the CROW, "Warners can't suck all the time", sometimes they can blow... It does have HENSON involvement so the possibility of magic is there. Let's hope...

Harry:

The word at Warner Brothers is that they finally have a hit on thier
hands with JACK FROST starring Michael Keaton, Kelly Preston, & Mark
Addy (The cool fat guy from the FULL MONTY, Who by the way recently got
over $2 mil to do the sequel to THE FLINTSTONES as FRED). The Studio
saw the movie last week and the word is that the highest level suits
were moved to tears by an unexpectantly emotional movie (or maybe they
were still crying about The Avengers).

They are talking about JACK FROST as a potential franchise and say that
it is Michael Keaton's best work since the first Batman or Beatlejuice.
Kelly Preston --enough said--if there is a hotter babe in Hollywood,
please tell!!! Trevor Rabin (ARMAGEDDON) turned in a great score and
the soundtrack is supposed to be sweet too.

The word is that it has the feel of GHOST or ITS A WONDERFUL LIFE and if
its true, there will finally be a Christmas movie that we care about
(Sorry Tim Allen)....

The trailer is supposed to be coming out soon...

Best,

Ol' Sneaky Bastard



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  • Sep 18, 1998 6:23:18 AM CDT

    Smacks of the PR Machine

    by mr bungle

    Unless Ol' Sneaky is aspiring to be the next ARMY ARCHERD, this "insider" info is so sterile and overwhelmingly positive that I cannot accept it as genuine. C'mon, I'm sure everyone who frequents this website could think of at LEAST ten Hollywood actresses whom they consider "hotter" than Kelly Preston. Sorry, Harry dude, but this scoop is 100% Nutrasweet.

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  • Sep 18, 1998 6:25:28 AM CDT

    Hmmm....I wonder

    by kubrick

    Whenever a spy with cool news
    is named "old sneaky bastard",
    one must be careful with the information this guy has to say.
    This fellow could be lying to us,
    trying to pull the wool over
    our eyes. But, hey...who knows ?
    If he's right...well, then from
    now on I'll use the word
    bastard to praise people instead of to damn them! That is if this movie turns out to be any good!
    Unless I get confirmation from
    Harry Knowles or Father Geek,
    themselves that this movie is "COOL!", then my faith in WB will be restored...until them I hate
    WB and will never ever seen
    another new dumb stupid mediocre
    cliched ugly piece of crap crud
    movie from Warner Brothers!
    I hate hate hate hate hate WB!

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  • Sep 18, 1998 7:13:47 AM CDT

    Yep. A plant.

    by baboon13

    Okay, I put the blurb through the BS 2000, and here's what I got:

    1) Only one misspelled word, "thier", which is gimme (and it was in the first 15 words, as a sparkler", to stand out.) It smacks of some PR flack trying to type 'geek' style.

    2) The odd use of the word "unexpectantly". Kind of a high dollar word for someone who can't spell 'their'.

    3) Okay, one more misspelled word...or is it? Beatlejuice? Maybe he thought Ringo played the 'kooky neighbor' who made "smokestack lightning" in a backyard still.

    4) Tell me this doesn't smell like flack-ese: " Kelly Preston -enough said--if there is a hotter babe in Hollywood, please tell!!!"
    Uh-huh. Maybe Kelly, or her peeps posted this. Oooh, maybe the Scientologists have invaded AICN!

    5) Ol' Sneaky Bastard, ala Ol' Dirty Bastard from Wu Tang...who was just on the MTV Awards show with Ben Stiller....
    "Hey, use a name the kids will respond to!!"

    6) Lastly, this phrase sounds like a blurb waiting to happen:
    "The word is that it has the feel of GHOST or ITS A WONDERFUL LIFE".
    Imagine that above the title.


    What really sucks is I'm looking forward to this film, and I would see it with or without the obvious attempt to start WOM(Underground Word of Mouth.) Warners has enough trouble without stooping to Disneyesque levels of evil.

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  • Sep 18, 1998 7:22:03 AM CDT

    very transparent

    by dave

    two possibilites:

    1) this person works for WB and can't disguise it, or

    2) this person writes press releases for a living and doesn't know how to write any other way.

    Let's wait to see the damned movie.
    -dave

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  • Sep 18, 1998 8:20:38 AM CDT

    Just sad...

    by skippy-k

    It's unfortunate that Harry's site has become so popular that the studios feel the need to use and abuse it. The sad fact is that I'm afraid Harry is going to have to start really trying to verify that his sources are people of some importance. I know, it sucks. Blame it on the studio bastards. Thanks for ruining a great site.

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  • Sep 18, 1998 10:25:04 AM CDT

    to rosey

    by dave

    im not cynical because of the positive review. im cynical because of the way the review is structured. if you've ever read a press release you should know what im talking about. it's sad that these corporate cash-obsessed bastards been allowed to invade AICN, they somehow get their dirty fingers into everything. But it's also reassuring to see that most in the talk-back didn't take the review seriously.
    -dave

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  • Sep 18, 1998 10:42:21 AM CDT

    Jack frost gossip

    by oscar2000

    Yes...that is a WB employee talking up Jack Frost. As someone who is very close to people working on films, including this one (I myself also make my living in Film), I can assure you the tears were of sorrow....

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  • Sep 18, 1998 10:59:20 AM CDT

    Press Release Proof

    by professor cheesecock

    All of you guys are right on the money about your hunch as this being an insider trying to hype the movie. Its obviously someone in the PR dept. of Warners or PMK or one of those PR firms. The reason is simple and you don't need a computer to disect the text:

    everytime that person referred to another movie title he put it in CAPS. That is common format in all press release material that they use ALL CAPS everytime they quote another movie, e.g. "Kelly Preston, the fine babe from NOTHING TO LOSE..."

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  • Sep 18, 1998 11:47:06 AM CDT

    Jack Frost horror movie

    by kid sparkle

    Yay! Someone else who has seen the Jack Frost horror movie! My favorite line? "Fucker's a snowman!!!!" over and over as that old guy beheads all the snowmen in the contest. Ahhhh, memories.

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  • Sep 18, 1998 12:56:46 PM CDT

    Grammer Guy Needs More Schooling

    by corran fox horn

    >> Actually "Warners's is highly incorrect,when a word ends with "s" you simply put a comma on it (anyone remember that quote for Burn Hollywood Burn? It was atributated to Harry Knowles' Ain It Cool News).

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  • Sep 18, 1998 1:11:03 PM CDT

    jack frost review/ol' sneaky bastard

    by thane young

    That was clearly an example of public relations writing. GOD, I HATE THOSE SCUM FU*@S! HOW COULD THEY DEFILE THE SANCTITY OF aic LIKE THAT!?! Oh my God. Please don't let me get my hands on that pencil neck "Sneaky Bastard"...
    He says, "..there will finally be a Christmas movie that we care about.(Sorry Tim Allen)" The best freaking Christmas movie ever was "Pulp Fiction". It's not even a genre to us movie geeks. Christmans movie. Unfortunately I've had to write some advertising/public relations blather myself and I'm telling you this guy stinks of it. SHOW YOURSELF YOU DIRTY BASTARD! STICK YOUR HEAD OUT FROM BEHIND YOUR GODDAMNED BMW AND SUBJECT YOURSELF TO MY WRATH!!! Who...are...you?...

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  • Sep 18, 1998 2:03:21 PM CDT

    How's That Foot?

    by anton_sirius

    What the hell's an 'atributated'? No, seriously, think for a minute about how much power Harry and his little site wield now. This is not the first time PR scumf**ks have tried to pass themselves off as real (read: unpaid) fans, nor will it be the last. Which means major motion picture studios are actually paying people money to try and snow us with fake insider stuff! As if our opinions matter! Wow. I'm flattered. And it's not like they're tough to spot (when they're this bad at it, anyway.) See now, if they were smart, they'd get someone to post under an obviously fake name on a regular basis, not even hyping specific movies but just chatting, until the person had somewhat established some kind of cred, and THEN lay in with the "I've heard this is good" crap. And yes, that was a blanket offer to all the studios. Hire me! I work cheap! I'm a complete whore too, I'll try to sell anything! Even the next Schumacher pic!

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  • Sep 18, 1998 2:04:53 PM CDT

    WB Plant and the CMoS

    by buxley

    It's amusing to see how we've moved on from general agreement as to this being an obvious plant to quoting the Chicago Manual of Style. =)

    Keep you the great work fellow geeks and AICNers, we expect nothing less.

    Oh and Ol' Bastard, how does it feel to know you can't write like a Real Person anymore?

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  • Sep 18, 1998 2:33:18 PM CDT

    Jack Frost

    by terrymoore

    Did the spy actually say the movie had the feel of Ghost and that this was a positive thing. Ghost is the smalziest, most saccharine piece of crap since ET. And Michael Keaton? Has he ever been in a good movie?

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  • Sep 18, 1998 3:23:47 PM CDT

    That Jack Frost confection

    by emby mellay

    I really want this movie to be good, but that alleged scoop you got was as authentic as Vanilla Ice

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  • Sep 18, 1998 5:07:00 PM CDT

    The original Jack Frost

    by larry c

    YES! I am so happy that others have seen "Jack Frost" the cheesy horor movie. It is the worst movie ever made (in a very good way). My favorite scene is when somebody is trying to melt the snowman with a plugged-in blow dryer. It has no effect on him, so he grabs the blow dryer and screams, "Blow me!", then sticks an icicle into the guy's skull. It was also great when he killed the girl in the shower while steaming hot water was running all over him. Geez, you think he'd melt? If anybody wants to rent this look for the super cheesy hologram coverbox. You see a normal snowman, then when you move your view slightly he becomes evil. It's great!

    --Larry C.

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  • Sep 18, 1998 8:42:14 PM CDT

    Anyway...

    by tekn0messiah

    Let's take a positive turn for a second. Repeat after me, "even if the report was public relations propaganda, it is possible for a good movie to be made by a studio with access to a large budget or experienced actors". Jack Frost might actually be good. Maybe WB just wanted to get Pre-Lim WOM so that everyone sees it and says good things about it. Then again, I wouldn't want to pick sides. (See all messages above for the validity of this statement). But really, if a person or studio tries hard enough, they can probably make any concept into a good movie. Just hope the director's name doesn't start with an S.

    PS. OOpz eyem mizzpelling thangz.
    -TeKn0MeSSiaH
    PPS. Spell check is for the weak!

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  • Sep 24, 1998 2:45:41 PM CDT

    That's a fuckin' suit.

    by stewarthill

    Come on, Harry! That's obviously a fuckin' suit talking.
    He's used some key words that you use regularly to ingratiate himself with you, and it worked.
    I know, because I sent you that e-mail. Tee-hee. "More tea please, Warners tea lady."
    ;-)

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  • Nov 29, 1998 10:47:31 AM CST

    Jack Frost prepares to bomb

    by ryan123

    The movie had a test screening in New York last week and the buzz is the movie's a flop.

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