Here we go again... More SPIDER-MAN 3 rumors...

I Like Venom

I kinda just wish they'd give a release date instead!

but I like the idea of Topher playing Electro and Hayden Church playing Sandman a whole lot better than the stupid Topher-as-Venom and everyone-as-Chameleon rumors. Actually that's the best proof Quint's source is right: it sounds like the better movie. I trust Raimi.

dudes and dickerettes, it shall be all of the villans as raimi won't make another after this story (two movies?) runs cease out, yo

Topher would be great as Electro. Sandman would be a great visual addition. And keep Harry away from throwing pumpkins. Maybe it could show him resisting, and by the end of the movie he could be finally pushed to decide that he's evil. Maybe also develop the Lizard. Set him up for the movie after the next one.

I wouldn't go for Venom to be honest as I always thought it was a bit of crappy storyline, the original alien costume story was pretty good but it went a bit too far and never really worked. Sandman was great, probably the best villain after the Green Goblin and Dr. Octopus, but I think the time is right now to expand it with two characters, the other being Electro. So how about Raimi goes with these two (Thomas Hayden Church will be perfect) and then see the Sinister Six appear for the next movie. After that, I hate to say it, but if Sam Raimi wants to focus on classic characters, then we may have reached the end of the spidey franchise, or Raimi and Tobey Maguire's interest. Raimi also introduced Curt Connors\The Lizard in the last movie so we can be pretty sure he'll expand on this, but whoever the villains are, we can be sure that Raimi will continue to do a wonderful job.

Nothing strikes fear into the heart of Spiderman like the sight of the Orkin-mans truck pulling up to the building and unleashing his deadly bug killing pesticides! The horror!

I doubt topher grace is playing the 2nd part of the chamelion since he's confirmed he's lifting weights.He does resemble eddie brock too.Church would be the perfect Sandman and Hell they gave spidey organic web spinners so why not make Harry The HobGoblin instead of the Green Gobling,I hope these are the Villians for the film.

Pretty funny/cool. I may be remembering wrong, but I think it was Quint who wrote a previous recent Spiderman article in which the word "jives" was incorrectly used instead of "jibes" about 3 or 4 times. Two of the talkbackers were prissy bastards and ripped Quint (or whoever it was) for this mistake; I was one of those prissy bastards. Now in this article, clear as day--"jibes." Hats off to you, Quint.

Trust me, he'll be there, you just won't be able to see him. And that moment where Spidey was complaining about the costume riding up, all Ant-Man baby, chaffing him like a little tiny motherfucker...

I kinda like the vulture, sandman is not really "evil" so not quite the villain i

He'd have to bulk up to play Aunt May for crying out loud.

Thanks, GoatZinger. Killer Moth RULES-- and they've NEVER used him on ANY Batman animated series. Teen Titans? Pfft.

THS is Sandman. Green Goblin/Hobgoblin, makes little difference as we already know where that is going. There will be no Venom. That rumor keeps getting floated 'cuz people enjoy how much it riles up the fanboys.

Hobgoblin IS a classic character! Not Sandman classic, but a fucking good period in Spidey history. At the very least he originally appeared pre McFarlane era Multiple villains... hmm it could be done well, Spidey 2 had a decent amount of groundwork setting up (maybe? Heh) Harrys fall from grace, split with Ocks story arc. I suppose they could just feature certain villains, not neccessarily centre stage... kind of like the bounty hunter line up in Empire Strikes Back! Chameleon is and always has been a rubbish character.

Two words: Studio Meddling. The suits have that "more is more" mindset. Let's cram in as many characters as possible... more licensing opportunities. I guess Raimi couldn't fight off the idiots forever...

If they would change Venom's charactor from the comic and actually make him something more than a dumbass in a cool looking Spidey suit, this could work. I don't think that Venom haters would mind him looking the same but being a total badass.

the movie will do quite well. Church will be Sandman and Grace will either be Venom or Electro. Rami good also be feeding mis-information to the masses just to keep interest high and drive us all crazy (crazier?) in the process

What a waste. The '90s were full of crap because of Venom and Carnage. It's just an excuse for more crappy CGI. Electro and Sandman would be great. Hell, I'd like Sandman and Hydro-Man. All the oldskool comic fans would know how it ended, but I wouldn't care. I'd love to see that on film.

You know, I've gotten to the point where I honestly do not care who the f'in villain(s) is/are. It could be the Three Wise Men and I'd be non-plussed. The dangling carrot has gone rotten. But I hope the movie's good nonetheless.

Venom's cool,but for Christ almighty's sake, cinema could never do him justice. I'm with big fat Harry, Sandman and Electro it is.

Yes I did.

Venom shmenom, just give him the new outfit. Kill off MJ near the end, and get him decked out in black

So it had nothing to do with a weak story, lame dialogue, over the top acting, flashy neon, terrible sets, and nipples on the batsuit?

I was SO glad when the Joker finally killed Bob near the end.

IS NOT IN THE MOVIE. I have already seen it reported elsewhere by other people connected to the film that it is Chameleon, and Green Goblin (not hobgolblin) with the third not being a major baddy at all but just somone who is working with Chameleon. And acourding to them Green Goblin doesnt show up till almost the very end, with it being more a "Anikin fall from grace story" and not really a hes a baddy thing

Enter... Larry The Cable Guy as RAZORBACK!!! 'Nuff said!

And I've seen Julianne Moore eat more brains than Venom.

I now think Sandman is a certainty because, as someone else said, he is one of the coolest beyond the Goblin and Doc Ock, but I also think Black Cat is needed or else it'll be all male villains. There needs to be a new female character in the series, and Black Cat would be perfect. Raimi has had her in mind for 2 movies. Maybe they don't want to reveal the villains to us because much of the plot relies on you not knowing about the Chameleon or something. Maybe Aunt May is the Chameleon.

grace is venom. church is sandman. i'm starting to doubt this sites ability to get the story. everyone in the know has known this for months.

Actually, as a villain I thought he was pretty good but a bit one dimensional, I see Spidey, I run at Spidey, Spidey jumps out of the way, Rhino runs into a wall, er, maybe not, I think as a villain he needs something more...!

...had it right, I'm sure. SURE. Because I know their source. Both Topher Grace and Thomas Hayden Church are playing the same character.

Maybe it's what I remember reading when I loved comics so much, but Sandman would just translate incredibly to film, imagine the story and the effects, it would be so cool and he's just got so much kudos, no real costume dilemmas for fan boys, he looks like a docker for chrissakes, although maybe some fanboys would discuss the colour of his sweater or haircut. Anyway, the Lizard would be great, there's a footballer here called Martin Keown who'd be great and would require no make-up I swear, oh, and Morpheus, a great character but probably doesn't fit the classic villain template that Sam Raimi's looking for. Against all this is the need to have some adequate origin of the villains and I'm not really sure how Raimi would be able to introduce Sandman, Electro and The Lizard, but if anyone can, Sam Raimi can.

I am tired of the MJ and Spidey soap opera. I want nothing but action. Let's get the Sinister 6 and make this movie a straight violent movie. These f*ckers will get a budget.

This Mary Jane thing has become a snooze.

...which is why I believe the Topher Grace/Haden Church are both The Chamelelon rumors.

Do you all really think Doc Ock died at the end of Spider-Man 2? What do you think will happen when he loses consciousness? The arms will take over and climb out of the lake, and the good ole doc will be just fine. It was clearly established that they have a mind of their own. They can EASILY bring him back for another movie, perhaps as part of the Sinister Six. Who knows?

I don't know about anyone else, but I would like to see Mysterio. I think he would make a great movie, especially with Raini at the helm. Nice head trip.

Tobey Maguire leaves the Spider-Man franchise to be replaced by Topher Grace, the villain is Sandman and The Lizard also wreaks havoc along with The Green Goblin...?

Raimi has spoke of that annual a few times, especially suring interviews for the first film...he's signed for four, but has said that he wants to stay on through six, which Sony has already planned out and Pascal has gone as for as to announce...Doc Ock, Goblin, Lizard, Sandman, Electro and my money is Mysterio, unless he decides to tie Kraven in with Connor's transformation into the Lizard.

I know it wasn't Harry but when I was reading comics that was the only thing I never got a clear answer on. Who really is/was the Hobgoblin?

The hobgoblin was 3 or 4 different people. There was one guy pulling the strings, and kept either getting people to play the part, or framing people. Then Macendale was the hobgoblin and got demonic powers... it's pretty complicated.

I think the best idea for villains in S3 (you heard it here first!!) or maybe S4 (even keweler!) is to have Harry, as the new Goblin, heading a Sinister Six type team. This is the only way we'll see most of the lesser tier bad guys like the Rhino, Hydroman, the Vulture and possibly Electro or the Chameleon, depending on what direction the next movie takes. That will give you plenty of room for big action set pieces which, great as it was, the second movie really lacked in. And they can be killed off (or imprisoned) without too much fanfare, because they're basically just super-powered minions to the real threat, Harry. This would be similar to how the Brotherhood of Mutants has been handled in the X-Men movies, but would work a lot better, as characters like the Rhino or Hydroman have lame and/or generic back stories, and the minion-ification of Sabretooth and Mystique cut out a lot of interesting material. So there you have it!

Honestly, even if Raimi liked the character, how in the fuck would they pull it off in one movie? And don't give me any of your fan fiction accounts of how it could all be logical because the truth is, it's all bull shit.

Then he needs to have someone voice over his lines cause he sounds too wimpy to be Eddie Brock.

maybe carnage, but venom....no way

In my oppion there is too meny rumours or exclusives going around its going to ruin the expectation of Spiderman 3... People should stop reading these sights and make there own judgement up... My oppion is that Tropher Grace looks like either Hob Goblin or Scorpian, and Hayden Christian Church looks like Mysterio or Sandman.

Venom sucks as a villian. Plus, Electro, Sandman and the Green Goblin as the villians just makes more sense. I guess we will see.

big Blade crossover. That would be sweet. Bring in Morbius, one of the coolest baddies Spidey ever fought. But I agree. You can't have this many bad guys running around. It's all a ploy to sell more fucking toys. Raimi's Spiderman flicks have been good because of the writing and the depth they are giving the characters but I don't know if you can add this many and not have it go Phhht. The X-Men movies pulled it off though, with a ensamble cast. So I'll keep my faith and keep wishing that they'll have The Living Vampire show up soon.

I believe the rumor about Harry not getting on the glider till the end is true, and he probably kills MJ. The entire movie of SP3 will be Peter and MJ trying to work their new relationship out, while Spider-man has to deal with Sandman and Electro or Chameleon. Then in SP4 Harry makes the Sinister 6 with Goblin, Doc Ock, Chameleon or Electro, rhino, shocker, Vulture. This then could set up SP5 when spidey gets the black suit and is really angry about losing MJ and Harry. SP5 baddies could be King Pin and the Spider Slayer robots in which black suit spidey fights, at the end he looses the suit and Venom is created for SP6. Boo-yeah.

Oh, wait...

.....Perhaps the play on words will be 3 villians after all?

what I think, but I'm gonna be pissed if they do Topher and Church as Chameleon. Spider-Man 2 was a fantastic film, better than the first, but a lot of the scenes that weren't Spider-Man in action turned quickly to Emo melodrama, and not well done melodrama, either. Using the Chameleon angle will only create more of this nonsense and less of shit getting fucked up, which is kind of what I expect from Spider-Man. As for who I'd like to see, in a perfect world it would be Venom and Carnage, with Harry turning to the dark side at the very end and killing Mary Jane. But based on the rumors going around, I'd like to see Thomas Hayden Church rock the Sandman, Topher as Venom, and the aforementioned Harry transformation.

Just because Schumacher couldn't pull it off doesn't mean it can't work. What if one of them bites the dust 20 minutes in? Then we get a 2nd act villain (Venom I'd guess) while Harry suits up as Hobby or whatever (would prefer Hob to Green #2 for sure). Anyway, could be done somehow (with a 140 min runtime, of course)

Mostly because Quint is so convinced it isn't.

The only logical way you could fit a version of Venom into SM3 is by turning him into a mirror-image, bizarro Spider-Man; no clingy symbiotes, alien hoodoo-voodoo and jazz like that - just let Eddie Brock get bitten by a spider like Peter (surely it could happen it so someone else) and give him the same powers as Spidey, albeit using them for bad than good then make way for lots of action set piece goodness - of course that doesn't make him a true adaptation of Venom in any way but it'd be better than all that symbiotic crap involving a suit being ALLLIIIIVVVVEEEE! Though I'd much rather see a Sandman/Electro combination.

Think about it. Raimi is great at what he does, and is he really going to seemingly sacrifice characterisation for batlles with all these villains? No way.If they introduce several villains there is gonna be much less focus on Peter and MJ. They don't have to give all the villains an origin, but the story is gonna be overcrowded with all their agendas ,and the possibility of them teaming up. No way is Grace playing Venom in this movie(maybe Electro if they go with several villains)but i can see him playing Eddie Brock, in this one and then becoming Venom in the next. It makes sense because its said Grace is a villain, and maybe he is just being ambiguous.So if he is playing Brock technically he is kind of a villain.Personally I think It should be Sandman and at the end have Harry turn into the Hobgoblin(not Green Goblin 2 because it shows Harry striking out on his own but still taking on his Father's legacy, besides the GG suit wasn't very good) at the end to kind of tie up that story arc.

If it is Chameleon I would bet there is another villain as well. This being a big summer action movie you arent going to have the whole plot revolve aound a guy who just changes shape. You would need another baddy like sandman to fill in the big brawls. And even though I dont think that Venom will be in this movie, Topher Grace could play Venom because the symbiote would add all that extra bulk he would need. But Venom would end up all CGI, which would be fine since half these movies are CGI already. In fact Topher Grace is in keeping with the ultimate universe depiction of venom which the first two spidey movies have been based on so closely.

Sideways dude will be Sandman. His origin will be poorly shoehorned into the plot, and there will be desperate battles with him during which Spider-Man saves lives at great risk to his own, and finds an excuse to take his mask off early and often. Topher Grace WILL be Ultimate Eddie Brock. As UEB was a childhood friend of Peter's and the son of Pete's Dad's partner when they were scientists, and alive. He will provide a portal through which we will be encouraged to feel deep sympathy for a sighing, dewy-eyed Peter, not because his Uncle died, but because - hey, his parents are dead, too! Come on, that's fucking sad, and Raimi gets to use that tragedy, as well as link it to the origin of yet ANOTHER science experiment gone awry turning someone close to Peter into a villianous series of ones and zeros. Of course, Topher was chosen because he's the amoral Pete, who believes that with great power comes great fucking shit up. Harry will NOT become Hobgoblin, nor Green Goblin, nor Nobgoblin, nor any other goddamned Goblin, for two reasons: it's what everyone expects, and it would be lame. He will more likely than not prove to be a great friend to Peter as well as a tragic one, as he will die heroically in a way that makes Peter dump MJ at the end because he doesn't want her to end up like Harry because of Spider-Man. There's yer goddamned movie, folks! And thank you.

They will use Bendis' origin. No alien costume. Repeat after me - NO ALIEN COSTUME. Thank you.

Everyone knows that Topher Grace is being used for the Spidey-Clone story-line. Sheesh!

I'm still waiting

THEY KNOW TOO MUCH!!!! I love Harry and Mori... but I think they're in WAY too deep now. They've established themselves in Hollywood (God bless 'em!) I really think, in all honesty, Harry should sell the site to someone that wants to do what Harry and Mori used to do... snoop and scoop!!! Harry and Mori probably know A LOT about EVERY movie out there and quite simply can't report the scoops because then they'd be OUT of the Hollywood circle; I mean, didn't Harry have some sort of video conference with Bryan Singer when "Superman Returns" started production? And what the hell is it with Mori's "cryptic" messages? Didja see his message in the "Marvel/Paramount" talkback??? If he KNOWS Edgar Wright is up for the "Ant-Man" flick, why not REPORT it??? They just need to pass the Ain't It Cool torch on. It's really no different then when TV Show Actors make it to the big screen (we'll use "ER" for an example)... but please, guys... if you ever DO give up Ain't It Cool... DON'T pass it to Herc.

I don't remember it taking this long to reveal the villians for the last two Spider-Man movies. *** And having Franco as the Hobgoblin, instead of The Green Goblin, just makes it easier to separate the two in the audience's minds (and hopefully gives the production crew a chance to redesign the outfit better).

i think you can rule out the vulture and chameleon stright away with common sense because they suck.

We had enough of the whole face-yank-reveal this character is actually someone else in MI:2. It does get tedious somewhere around the first time it happens.

should be played by The Rock!

they did it like the early McFarlane drawings where the mouth wasn't out of control. The first time you see his mouth in the comics would translate perfectly to a movie. Where MJ thinks it's Peter in the suit and through the darkness she sees a creepy mouth forming on the mask. The 3rd movie needs to up the ante and make these villians tough and scary and I don't think Cameleon is either one of those.

were all named by J Jonah Jameson and to a lesser extent Sam's brother (Ted? is it) So it would make sense that when harry shows up all decked out in the power rangeresque goblin suit that Jameson calls him Hobgoblin insted of green goblin. I actually hope they keep this trend of name calling. It saves the audience the displeasure of having the villian say his name. Plus it gives that hitler stash having flat top more screen time. Bruce Cambell should be sandman for cryin out loud WHY DOESNT RAIMI GIVE IT TO HIM DAMMIT.

Spiderman? X Men? Superman Returns? Who really gives a damn about these movies anyway. Now that Star Wars is gone, there's nothing to get excited about anymore. These films don't come anywhere near Star Wars. They don't compare, compete, or even lift a candle to Star Wars. I mean what is Spiderman anyway? A stupid little story about a single fantasy cartoon figure vs another cartoon fantasy figure, with a girl chucked in just to keep the 'emotional' element going. Look at Star Wars, it had thousands of fantasy figures running around in it's huge galaxy with much bigger important stories going on to portray these characters and settings and a lot more emotional importance than just being in love. It trounces all this X Men, Superman Returns, poor fantasy wannabes in a single frame of itself. Why do people make such a big deal about them is beyond me. Now that Star Wars has now ended with Revenge of the Sith, it's crowning achievment and best film of the lot, there is just nothing wroth talking about anymore, nothing to look forward or get excited about. Face it, life will be worse from now on, as it will just be boring. Why do you guys just get a life, and stop being so boring going on about insignificant films like this?

Spiderman is just an Extra in the Star Wars universe. I should know, when I was one on Ep2 & 3 I saw him there. That's all he's worth.

Funny.

Your funny. way to try to get everyone pissed off. lol

""Jive" and "jibe" can be used interchangeably in the U.S. to indicate the concept "to agree or accord"; each has been used in that capacity for at least a hundred years stateside. However, "jibe" (or "gibe") is a pure Americanism and is unknown in other English-speaking countries." http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/jibe Back on topic, venom/sandman/hobgoblin has a ring of truth. I'm inclined to believe it... and like it.

if it's just bullshit rumor, then you're just wasting everyone's time, eh? Unless you need the hits. And sorry, I just don't see any Buffyverse/Spiderman connection. Buffy is Kitty Pryde, anyway. and Cptkirks2pay, way to make a completely irrelevant comparison between two totally unrelated genres working on different scales with different styles and tones, thus insulting both Star Wars and the various superhero franchises. Good job!

I'm not saying it's a good character but Grace doesn't look anything remotely close to Brock. Hell they're total opposites. I don't care if the suit isn't alien or not, the guy portraying the villian doesn't match up and if it comes to pass that he is playing Venom, you'll definitely see a lot of alienated Spider-fans.

... wish the f**k Raimi would just friggin' TELL US already! What's the big secret, anyway? And when he does tell us, you just know it's gonna be all "Mars meteor with germs on it"... i.e.... a big let down. But if we all wanna endlessly speculate about nothing, here's mine: The Spot, Stegron the Dinosaur Man and Kangaroo! Now THERE'S a crop of potential villains that'll make you wake up at 2 AM in a cold sweat!

... Spidey 3 will also feature the celluloid debut of the Spider-Mobile and a guest appearance by Easy Reader (Always gotta find a job in these things for Morgan Freeman, ya know)!

I guess a guy turning into SAND ain't gonna look crappy either. Or a guy metamorphing. But X-Men already did that, so... Or a guy pulsating electricity out of his hands. Didn't Dr. Doom already do that shit in the last Marvel flop too. Electro and Chamelion both already resemble other characters from Marvel put to screen, so if Raimi's smart he'll stick away with them. I wouldn't mind seeing Venom on film, but don't just TOSS him in like a side order. Save him for 4 and use this film to build up that storyline, like Harrys descent into Goblinism started in 2. Venom would make a good continuation in not only Spidey's story, but the whole Peter Parker one too. Pete goes Johnny Cash in 3 with his new black suit, goes crazy and mad briefly before his internal conflict with the alien suit concludes with him beating it. Leading to Eddie Brock, who perhaps, drifting away from the comics, is not the dumb jockhead he was portrayed as, and is in fact another little geek (Grace) jealous of Petes success and having a crush on MJ. Once he learns that Pete is spidey in 3, he gets even angrier, and in the end gets the symbiote. Leading to 4. If they do bring venom on, I do agree that they should drift away from his dumbass protrayal in the comics. Make him a murdering sumbitch too. Don't give him the cheezy one liners like the Batman films descended into. Make him a monster that'll filet you if you so much as look at him wrong. But no venom in 3, please. Bring on Sandman.

Brock Lesnar off WWE would rock venom. What bout the scorpion anybody think of that for ol 70's boy.....

...how many times Tobey will be in costume and in action without a mask and away from anyone with a cameraphone.

I think its pretty unlikely that they will have the Venom/alien costume symbiote have the same origin story that it does in the classic comics. The Ultimate universe origin is much more plausible in the Spiderman world that is created in the films. They arent going to introduce the whole secret wars back story, and some other introduction of an alien symbiote connected to spiderman would be even more hokey than another experiment gone awry. Oh and Brock Lesanr was barely a good enough actor to pull off his "performances" in the WWE, he could never be a major character in a feature film. I for one hope they manage to finish off the Green Gobiln storyline in this movie so we get to see something new. The Green Goblin is pretty boring visually compared to a ton of other spidey villains. I for one think that when Harry does become the goblin it will be Hobgoblin because that is in keeping with the ultimate story line. The ultimate universe is Marvel's biggest seller and having a new and different looking character will sell mor toys and t-shirts too.

We should have seen this coming. Don't put Venom in this. Because if this rumor has any weight to it, which personally I don't think it does, it's going to fucking suck spectacular taintrind. Sorry, but it's the truth. I could lie to you all and say that squeezing in a supervillain who's popularity is without a doubt astonishing even for a comic character as a third wheel to more "old school foes" of that particular title is a good idea but who are we kidding. It's almost like they're trying to hard. Sam, Church as Sandman will own, but most of us have figured as much like 5 months now, in spite of his incessant acting like an ass whenever remotely confronted about this subject. Harry as Hobgoblin is fine. Whatever. Just if you're gonna go that far, why not pay homage to Spidey's 80sdom and throw in the black suit. Have Tobey's regular duds smell or something like in the comic and fucking throw it in the hamper for a couple days and wear a black costume. Keep in mind, despite the contrary, this is one guy who could give two shits less about Venom, but STILL doesn't want him to get 'Baned' should this be the route Raimi's going. If this keep's up, speculation will be that Cardiac will be the villain for God sake. And Harry, they really tore you a new one in Entourage. If you can take it in stride, more power to you. If that was me I'd be fucking livid.

Also the FX house they used is way ocverpriced. I couldn't believe they spent 200 million on the last production because honestly, it didn't look like it cost that much. Although improved over Spidey 1, the CG moved too fast and still looked too fake. If they're gonna do Sandman and Venom, Raimi should use a different FX house that specializes in NATURAL human movement as opposed to videogame cinema CG.

From what I remember, he & Parker were childhood friends because their parents had been friends. The goo that becomes venom came from research Parker sr. had been doing for a cancer cure. Anyway, Eddie Brock has a sample of the goo. After that I forget how it went. I think similar to original Venom - goo attaches itself to Peter, Peter rids himself of goo, goo finds Brock and they bond. Does Venom remind anyone else of Gumby?

Fisrt time in a year since I viewed it. Can't believ ehow much it's dating. Not just the FX and other techncial aspects, but the storyline and characters too. Just so quickly becomes uninteresting and boring. Spidey loves Mary J, Mary J loves Kate, Harry wants to kill Spidey. This is the emotional core and anchor of the film, and it's like IS IT JUST THAT!!???? How boring! This storyline'd interest evaporates so quickly. Spiderman is instantly forgettable as soon as you leave the theatre, no matter how entertaining it is whilst you're watching it, and the story just WON'T last the test of time, not 1 year, not in 20. Star Wars on the other hand, 20 years from now, Anakin nad his dark turn, what he does to his wife, his mentor and his Jedi friends, the fall of the Jedi, The Clone Wars, the Emporer's cunning, power, and rule, will always be generating interest and excitement. It's story will always be intruiging to viewers, sci fi special effects or not. PLEASE!!! - do with this Spiderman film and be done with it.

We get it.

And I thought the average joe Star Wars prequel apologist was pathetic. You are off the charts. Your actually saying that dancing bears, gungan parades, Jar Jar's, kids skipping and yelling "YIPEEEE!!!", useless dumb romantic banter like "Its because I'm so in love with you" "no its because i'm so in love with you", poo poo jokes...ect. ect. ect. Your actually saying now that that priceless historic stuff is over that there is no longer anything to look forward too in movies and we now face a life of boredom. Oh brother, I gotta copy and save your post. That was priceless. What makes it even more priceless is that you were serious. ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!LOL!!!!!!!ROTFLMAO!!!!!

I'm not a mega fan of this series, but this guy he pulls off a very tricky task of making his character eccentrically funny when a lesser actor could have produced an annoying twat

Everytime that bitch opens her mouth to speak i want to throw up.Anybody here remember when she was on the MTV Movie awards and they were nominated for like three or four awards ,one of them was best kiss,and when the VJ guy asked her if they won if she planned on trying to do the kiss on stage like all of the other previous winners have done. Obviously since it was an upside down kiss and Tobey Maguire wasn't in the building she couldn't right? That stupid bitch screamed "EWWW NO,LIKE I'VE GOT A BOYFRIEND NOW, I LOVE YOU JAKEY" The bad part was she was serious.Then when she was on stage accepting the award she said that something to the effect of "The kiss in Daredevil was a ripoff of ours". Now that bitch is on Tv saying the president caused the Hurricane. The man has caused some shit in his day but i didn't know he had the same powers as Storm from the XMEN. I know this is a dumb ass rant but she ruins Spiderman for me, she should be replaced with the girl from that 70's show. Kirsten Dunst is a moon faced Joker mouthed whore.

What does ROTFLMAO mean?

Kirsten is your girlfriend. You love her. You want to marry her.

No one, not even the most ridiculous apologist, could believe the nonsense he spews. Gotta start banning these imbeciles.

Donna, isn't the way to go. She's super hot and all but she's not Mary Jane material. Just because she has red hair, well used to, doesn't make her MJ. What pisses me off about Dunst is that she doesn't give a shit about the franchise, the same goes for Halle Berry in X-men. Those films are the only things going for them right now, you would think they'd show more respect.

Oh, lay off. All I'm saying is that everyone's wrong to rant and rave about these films nad their forgettable subject material. Also, Spiderman hardly has any of the qualities or characteristics of a Spider anyway. When someone says Spiderman to me, I think of a much darker, scary monstrous, but good, albeit conflicted superhero. All I'm really saying is that these films are overrated and only good for their day, whilst Star Wars is taken for granted because it's so good. It's the only film you end up wanting more from becuase you're given so much more than you expected in the first place. Spiderman, god, all that film has for topics of discussion is what to do about Kirsten Dunst and Mary Jane. Come on. Purlease!! Find something more intruiging to talk about.

Sometimes I think all those Wong Kar Wai films are a bit like Star Wars.

When that Bitch starts talking....I bet she's the reason Bryan Singer is gay. Thanks for your post though, atleast you didn't bash me for my possibly idiotic opinion.

The likeness is uncanny.

The floppy headed (possibly Canadian?) green lizard was called the Gorn. I don't like Trek and somehow I'm a big enough geek to know that. I was much soberer when I began reading this talkback.

with all these BS rumors. Don't people get tired of pulling these things out of there own ass?

Ultimate Venom or Electro- Topher Grace Sandman- Thomas Hayden Church except he could be Brock too. Kraven- Daniel Day-Lewis or Karl Urban The Vulture- Ben Kingsley Rhino- Brock Lesnar unless they go for the Ultimate version which is a man in a mechanical suit Mysterio- Bruce Cambell

I mean, if a poll went out to all the geeks asking which movie they'd sooner see, ya think it would be Spidey 3 or another Ash installment? Granted, ED4 is not a guarnteed good movie (shit, I like Army of Darkness, but it ain't great filmmaking), but it would have us all frothing at the mouth, much more than the silly, who-cares-at-this-point debating over who the fuck TOPHER GRACE (!!!) is gonna be playing in Spiderman 3. . . And yes, Kirsten Dunst is a freak. That we can all agree upon (Sam can cast her as a "fake shemp" maybe?)

It's possible I'm wrong about the "jive/jibe" usage, although my copy of The World Book Dictionary, in addition to a quick Google search along with visits to both dictionary.reference.com and www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/gibe.html, backs me up. However, even if I'm wrong, at least I tried to give my posts on the subject a lighthearted self-deprecating tone, unlike your post. Don't you see the irony that you actually took the time to snipe at me about needing to "get a life" right before going into your own little technobabble rant?

Holy shit Quint, I too am distraught that your half-witted reasonings didn't send shockwaves of calm through the entire internet. Delusions of grandeur much? No, where's this Talkback's post from Moriarty where he reveals that he knows who the villains are, has read the script and seen effects-test, aaaaand... "the fans are gonna love it!"? Gotta love those non-scoops.

But then, you "no" that already! Hahahahahhahahahahahaha!

Sam Raimi has done a hell of a job so far with this franchise because he understands the comic.Tim Story did not get the Fantastic Four at all.If he did we wouldn't have had a very shitty Doctor Doom on film.No offense to the guy from Nip/ Tuck who was cast as DD but e was all wrong for the part and the movie kind of sucked ass.Raimi and Singer are ahead in the comic genre right now by a long shot.If some of the bigger Directors would do those films t would be great, i mean what Nolan did for BB and the Batman franchise in general is proof of that you don't have to sacrifice any legitimacy or whatever they are scared of by doing a comic based film, Which director that hasn't done a comic adaptation would ya'll like to see give it a shot and which flick? I'd like to see David Fincher direct a Batman or Punisher sequel.

Yeah this should be good hopefully.

As have others here. They should open up w/ a 10 minute battle w/ one villain Rhino gets my vote but Electro'd be cool too. Spidey wins the fight. Then start from there, w/ just ONE villain.

yeah a guy in a rhino suit wouldnt be campy at all

Topher wouldn't need to bulk up to play Venom... that can be played by any guy in a suit... I am putting money down on Electro.

Everyone wants her dead? Why? In the comics she's Peter's wife now! Killing her would be a bad thing ta do!

I'm sorry, but Henry Rollins is the ONLY man who could play Eddie Brock/Venom. Topher is too skinny to play a guy who body-builds on a regular basis.

Now that Star wars is over seems that there is no future, if only someone gets to make Macross in live action it would be perfect. Only Macross has a potential to be another great saga. Spiderman i like it, but i

Please make Mysterio the Villain for Spiderman 4 or I'll kill myself. I mean it. I'm not kidding. No Mysterio in 4, no more Regis on AICN Talkback. So this is a very serious ultimatum to Raimi who I've been told ejoys my posts.

why rami, why did you make the films all about one girl !!!!!!!!

It won't be hobgoblin because it makes no sense. How can Harry take up his dad's mantle, but not use the Green Goblin name? Doesn't really make sense. I am a huge Hobgoblin fan, and I'd certainly like to see a different costume than the craptacular Green Goblin costume, but I don't think it'll happen. Thanks for wasting my time with this article, AICN.

Kingpin started off as a Spider-man foe in the comics, it was Frank Miller that pretty much hijacked the character for Daredevil during his run on the title. The Venom storyline in the cartoon bore zero resemblance to the origin in the comics (Secret Wars- look it up) though technically you could argue that with the Jameson Jr story arc in the last film, it could conceivably work using a variation on the cartoon version of events. Except for the fact that Venom is shit.

how many times are we going to here the same news?

And Kirsten Dunst Sucks, hope they kill'er off in the next one!

i mean, "Peter Parker"? c'mon.

Superhero movies with multiple villians include Superman 2, X-Men 1 and 2, and Batman Begins. All of which I like, and are fairly well liked. The idea that quantity of villians, and not the writing are what make a film good or bad are idiotic. Also, Harry Osborn has been both a good and bad goblin, so even if he does wear the suit, it doesn't mean he would be a villian.

The only thing that matters about Spidey-3 is: What cheeseball role will Bruce Campbell play in it? Oh, and the movie is likely to stink on stilts no matter who the villain is. So truly, none of this even matters.

Harry was a "good Goblin" for all of about five panels at the end of his Spectacular Spider-Man stint as the Green Goblin, when he saved Mary Jane from a burning building (and possibly died), hardly enough to base a movie on. There was a superhero Green Goblin, but it was not Harry Osborn.

well? wtf? Green Street is a shitty movie.

between the original Superman movies and Raimi's Spidey movies: the lead chicks are UGLY. So speaks Zod.

She's not that great a actress, but dammit if she isn't one of the hottest chicks around. Love to see her in that outfit. Now if you'll excuse me, I've got to get that dang Emmanualle theme out of my head.

...than Kirstie Alley. Or Kevin Allen from "Trainspotting"...I got nothin'.

that dumb. considering that the character has already been st up. / Eliza Dushku as Black Cat 'cause Faith basically is Black Cat. nuff said, excelisior, it's clobberin' time, bub, snickt, your friendy neighbohood spiderman, you wouldn't like me when i'm angry, i'm good at what i do and what i do isn't very nice, flame on, etc.

ouch

http://www.Fi-Sci.net/ Some more pictures have been updated in the superman gallery, the latest shows Kevin Spacey as Lex Luthor.

Anyone else figured that out?

He dresses in black! And he's violent! Woah! And the fact remains, you are unaware of Spider-mans history unless you saw it on TV. Watch me fuck off. Watch me, here I am, fucking off. AAARRGGGHH! The words! Fucktard.

is that, while they bash his fans for liking him simply for looking cool and being violent...well, why is that not good? It's a comic book, not Shakespeare, sometimes its more fun to watch people get fucked up than to see melodramatic old guys dress up in halloween costumes and fuck with a geek's head. I, for one,would like to see puny Parker get bitchslapped by Venom, and I'm sure I'm not alone...

Read the very first comments made by Hayden Church, and tell me he's NOT playing Electro. It's been there since the start. Not Sandman, Electro.

that's the burning question that's on the mind of every single sentient living being on this planet. PLEASE!!! TELL!!! US!!!!! ARRGH!!!

now we know the real reason Bush killed New Orleans -- he was trying to wipe out Zartan and the Dreadknocks as well as Tomax and Xamot. Go Joe! Cobra! And learning is half the battle. Mumra the ever living! Form blazing sword. thunder! Thunder! THUNDERCATS! HO! (you, that Thundercats Ho was pretty hot. she had ninja powers too.)

did you?

Damn, and here's me thinking that Jake Busey had the part of Eddie Brock locked down.

pic of Wolverine from the xmen 3 movie. Link:- http://www.fi-sci.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=237&Itemid=44