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Adjust that eye-patch, grab that shield, get your bow and gaze into the Eye of Agamotto to see what Marvel is up to!!

Ahoy, squirts! Quint here with an update, thanks to the Hollywood Reporter, of the subjects of the future Marvel movies. Some interesting choices here... CLOAK & DAGGER? Visually they'd be a great team to see in live action, but can they carry their own movie? DR. STRANGE has to be handled carefully. I love the character, but to pull off Dr. Strange outside of a comic book without being laughable will be a big challenge. If done right, it could be fantastic. The one I'm most excited about is THE AVENGERS! Anyway, read below for the Hollywood Reporter story!!!

The home to such superheroes as Spider-Man and The Hulk has tweaked its name and raised the $525 million it needs to become a producer of movies based on some of its 5,000 characters. Marvel Entertainment -- previously Marvel Enterprises -- is set to announce Tuesday its name change and completion of its loan package, and also will divulge that superheroes Captain America, the Avengers, Nick Fury, Black Panther, Ant-Man, Cloak & Dagger, Dr. Strange, Hawkeye, Power Pack and Shang-Chi will get the feature-film treatment. Paramount Pictures, under a deal announced in April shortly after Brad Grey took the helm of the studio, will distribute and market the films, the first of which will be released in 2008 or possibly sooner.

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  • Sept. 6, 2005, 4:47 a.m. CST


    by Lugosi

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 4:54 a.m. CST

    Oh yeah, the crowds have been clamoring for an Ant-Man movie for

    by Rolling_Stone

    More Hollywood money down the toilet.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 5 a.m. CST

    Tom Cruise for Ant-man.......

    by doglips

    He's 1/144 scale already......Who the fuck is going to watch an Ant-Man movie?? Half of these films are box office suicide, why not just leave them as comics with their pride intact?? Can we go through more comic book raping?? We've got X3 and Ghost Rider to get over already....Marvel are so fucking greedy.....

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 5:31 a.m. CST

    word is Ant-Man is going to surprise you

    by BurlIvesLeftNut

    So quit being so cynical. Life is too short and I am concerned about your heart.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 5:37 a.m. CST


    by Krangelus

    is hawkeye from mash, i always fort he was.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 5:38 a.m. CST

    Who the fuck is Power Pack?

    by Dead Megatron

    Lo, those obscure suport characters... Ot maybe I should read more Marvel comics?

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 5:56 a.m. CST

    Power Pack

    by Lenonn

    Power Pack:

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 5:58 a.m. CST

    Who the fuck is Shang-Chi?

    by classyfredblassy

    Isn't he the Cartwrights' servant on "Bonanza"?

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 6:10 a.m. CST

    Hawkeye from M*A*S*H

    by Bart of Darkness

    Would be a more viable movie idea that using that guy with the bow and arrows. Desperation or what? Barrel, prepare to have thy bottom well and truly scraped.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 6:17 a.m. CST

    Whats next SpeedBall the Masked Marvel??

    by John-Locke

    Hopefully some of these will be animated movies.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 6:18 a.m. CST

    Whats next SpeedBall the Masked Marvel??

    by John-Locke

    Hopefully some of these will be animated movies.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 6:22 a.m. CST

    Viggo Mortenson as Tony Stark

    by Trevor Goodchild

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 6:22 a.m. CST

    I'm sorry...

    by Pandas

    ... but a new Nick Fury flick won't succeed. The bar was set too high by the David Hasselhoff version.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 6:24 a.m. CST

    Anyone see Sean Penn with his boat?

    by Trevor Goodchild

    Cynicism aside, good for him.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 6:33 a.m. CST

    If ANT-MAN Is Made By Who I Think It Will Be...

    by drew mcweeny

    ... then watch the geeks line up to see the ANT-MAN movie willingly. It really might turn out to be one of the grooviest Marvel movies overall.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 6:39 a.m. CST

    Cloak & Dagger

    by LuckyYoga

    I'm very interested in seeing a Cloak & Dagger film made. If done right this could be a very cool movie.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 6:44 a.m. CST

    I never want to see the words 'gritty adaptation' again

    by quantum_ken

    Because it really means leather, bad dialogue and defying physics.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 6:45 a.m. CST


    by RenoNevada2000

    I thought they was going to be part of that animated direct-to-DVD slate that Marvel announced early this summer? (Was that announcement at ComicCon?)

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 6:48 a.m. CST

    woaw, is there a comment in black ? is that an epic comment, or

    by Gus Nukem


  • Sept. 6, 2005, 6:53 a.m. CST

    Marvel's Woes

    by Warlock One

    Marvel licenses clearly _can_ make good movies; the problem is, lately, they haven't been bothering to do so. We need to see that they're willing to hire A-list writing talent for their pictures rather than the paint-by-numbers kind of committee writing the recent pictures seem to have fallen prey to. The "What licenses do we have, and how can we get them up on screen ASAP" attitude they're displaying doesn't bode well for the future. Start remembering that a comic-book audience, especially in this day and age, is a _literate_ audience, Marvel.

  • Well, I'm just telling it like it is...

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 7:02 a.m. CST


    by blackthought

    is mention of killraven? is he no longer loved by avi?

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 7:19 a.m. CST

    dr strange & more

    by mcdowell_32000

    the doctor has already been a oneshot tv movie in the 80's that stunk. any strange movie that's not animated will be a cgi mess. power pack? shang-chi? wtf...let's just make a son of satan starring whoever's the teen poster boy of the month & black panther starring a cgi tupac shakur...blehh!

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 7:23 a.m. CST


    by kdoc13

    Yeah! I want this one Baby! Roller skating and disco!!! It's only a matter of time until this gets made, you know you want the Dazzler baby!

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 7:28 a.m. CST

    I want DEADPOOL

    by Tone Def

    Maybe Batroc the Leaper could be the Villian

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 7:53 a.m. CST

    therefore Avi Arad gets even more creative control over Marvel&#

    by Gus Nukem


  • Sept. 6, 2005, 8:09 a.m. CST

    Marvel and DC should fucking team up!

    by ALUCINOR11

    Jesus Christ an epiphany for the ages! Spider man and Batman swinging around the city together! Wolverine and the punisher in the greatest R rated movie ever.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 8:09 a.m. CST

    o wait they are both marvel damn me being excited!

    by ALUCINOR11

    The punisher and wolverine would still be fucking cool dammit

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 8:14 a.m. CST


    by CuervoJones

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 8:24 a.m. CST

    Oh Antman!

    by masterchappy

    Didn't they already do an Antman movie?... It was called 'Honey, I Shrunk My Wanker and the Damn Viagra Isn't Getting It Up'. Give it a rest Marvel. Flacid pricks.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 8:26 a.m. CST

    NFL Superpro

    by Blood T Cat

    that would be the shit

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 8:36 a.m. CST


    by Darth Busey

    I'm guessing they are going the comedic route here...since the idea of a brilliant scientist shrinking himself has already been essayed by the brilliant Rick Moranis. Also, would be nice if they kept casting continuity between the Captain America, Ant-Man, Iron Man, and Hawkeye movies, since all are/were Avengers at some point. I also don't see how they can do a live-action Avengers film for under $200 million. But here's hoping.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 8:38 a.m. CST

    Kickers, Inc.

    by Dorsiafan

    While it's frustrating that Marvel hasn't pushed forward on NFL Superpro yet (it's one of their crown jewels - along with Kickers, Inc. characters) - I'd hate for them to rush it and get it wrong. Right about now - Brad Gray is having every Hawkeye comic ever published delivered to Adam Sandler...

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 8:43 a.m. CST

    word is ant man will steal your lunch.

    by dr.bulber

    katie holms is ant girl!!

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 9:01 a.m. CST

    punisher vs wolverine would be better!!

    by wschiff

    pun-fisher comes after wolverine who just won't die!

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 9:11 a.m. CST

    President Evil, you are a sick but funny man

    by Fearsme

    laughed my ass off at that weird rant. And Dorsiafan, while i agree that Superpro and Kickers, Inc. are quality titles worth of the movie treatment, i noticed you didn't mention adaptations for Speedball, Darkhawk, or Rocket Racer.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 9:13 a.m. CST

    I say they do the first story arc of The Ultimates

    by JiggamanSpence

    Then you get all the biggies (Cap, Iron Man, Thor) and a good cinematic epic storyline and some great action sequences. They may have to take the Hulk out of it, which would be a shame, since I think Universal owns that one, but I'd love to see a big screen Ultimates.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 9:14 a.m. CST

    When are we gonna get OBSCURE Marvel Movies?

    by johnhawks

    Blazing Skull, Vagabond and the Fighting Hobo, Blue Diamond, Taxi Taylor, the list goes on and on...

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 9:16 a.m. CST

    ..and i forgot...

    by JiggamanSpence

    Ant-Man is part of the Ultimates! It'd be perfect!

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 9:41 a.m. CST

    5000 characters

    by RaylanGivens

    I get nervous when every Marvel movie article mentions their "5000 characters" because I'm starting to fear that we will soon know each and every one of them by their disappointing opening weekend box office. Have we not learned anything by Man-Thing?

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 9:45 a.m. CST

    I'm still waiting for Marvel

    by Otter

  • I'm sure it will the the "gritty adaptation" of that gripping graphic novel.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 9:52 a.m. CST


    by Celicynd

    Shouldn't Hawk-Eye and Ant-Man just be IN the Avengers movie? (As much as I would rather see a Hawk-Eye movie)

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 9:56 a.m. CST

    Put 'em all in one movie so we can just get this shit over w

    by WeedyMcSmokey

    I think most of you have enough toys as it is.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 10 a.m. CST

    "Obnoxio The Clown: The Movie!"

    by Graphix67

    ...And why not Obnoxio??? Just one more ultra-obscure comic character to join that "scratch-your-head" list of PowerPack, Shang-Chi etc. Gotta' think that most of these names end up in the straight-to-rental zone similar to the ManThing flick.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 10:07 a.m. CST

    Constantine Should Have Been....

    by Taylor Made

    Dr. Strange, that was my very first thought walking out of the theatre. I believe they can make any kind of movie work as long as the content is entertaining and is marketed the right way, anything is possible.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 10:11 a.m. CST

    Uh, if you're going to do a film with an archer . . .

    by HarrisonsDad

    . . . Green Arrow is the way to go. You know it's true. Do not deny Oliver Queen and his quiver another moment.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 10:12 a.m. CST


    by 3 Bag Enema

    You mean, like Hawkeye Pierce? Because you can't mean the guy in purple and blue with the archery kit.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 10:15 a.m. CST

    No Deadpool?!

    by SirNougat

    THERE NEEDS TO BE A F*CKING DEADPOOL MOVIE!! HOW can Marvel NOT SEE how great a Deadpool movie could be?! ROAR!!

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 10:22 a.m. CST


    by halfmadjesus

    Nice to see knee-jerk fanboy pissing and moaning alive on this talkback. Hey, why NOT make fun of something before considering any possibility? It's so much easier, after all. The thing is, this slate of Marvel/Paramount pics represents Marvel's chance to develop films on their own - no more studio interference. Marvel themselves are putting up the cash. They're hiring the writers and actors. Therefore, if the films don't succeed, it's nobody else's fault. Can't blame some clueless studio bean-counter passing their post-it notes to the production. Paramount's part of the deal is distribution only, from what I understand. So some of you who hate the Hollywood system might try being happier for this reason. Marvel has parlayed their success into a shot at being a major independent player. Now, unfortunately, most of Marvel's "big-gun" characters are tied up at the studios already, so that leaves them digging through the Marvel Universe handbooks to find concepts they can hopefully pull a BLADE treatment on. ANT-MAN, from a concept level, potentially offers something we haven't seen before - a superhero movie mixed with a "shrinking man"-type picture. Immedately, unimaginative minds think of "Honey I Shrunk the Kids," but CGI FX have come a long way since the 80's. Nobody's applied current technology to this kind of picture yet. Think about it. I assume BLACK PANTHER is the long in-development Wesley Snipes production. Here's hoping Wes opts to bow out of the title role, and plays the villain, or something. Djimon Hounsou still looks like a good choice for the Panther to me - maybe Snipes would consider playing Erik Killmonger. POWER PACK is a $150 million blockbuster concept - a team of super-powered kids. In the right hands, a pic like that has a chance to hit the family demographic and clean up at the box office. The overall key to Marvel's success here is keeping the budgets appropriate to concept/character - maybe $35-50 mil for something like CLOAK & DAGGER, SHANG-CHI, or HAWKEYE, $65-80 mil for ANT-MAN, POWER PACK, or DR. STRANGE, and the big $100 mil+ money reserved for CAPTAIN AMERICA or AVENGERS. If Marvel employs Fox-like conservatism in how they budget their productions, they should do just fine, even with the B and C-tier characters. It's all in the concept and marketing, kids, not in people's pre-conception of a character like ANT-MAN. Because let's face it - most people have no pre-conception of ANT-MAN. They'll decide whether or not to spend their money based on who's in it, if the concept seems interesting or not, and what the trailers look like - just like any other movie that gets released.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 10:23 a.m. CST

    Wheres "Watcher" the movie?

    by mostdwnloadedman

    No, actually that probally wouldnt be any good.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 10:25 a.m. CST

    What the fuck...

    by Kamikaze_Jones

    Somebody needs to shoot Avi Arad in the face. Power Pack? Who's clammering for a power pack movie? The sad part is that I'm almost glad they're doing the ridiculous minor characters, just so Arad doesn't get a chance to fuck with the good ones. Please, PLEASE, somebody with talent, do Captain America...

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 10:56 a.m. CST

    Just Call Him Avi.....

    by Mr. Smegma

    ....."Straight to DVD" Arad. You watch.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 11:02 a.m. CST

    I don't think these are all about "fans clamoring", Kamikaze

    by fantasticx

    Stuff like Power Pack is a good move because it'll appeal to the same audience that dug Spy Kids or Shark Boy and Lava Girl...there really hasn't been a good kid superhero movie (excluding the great Sky High, but that was more teens) and it seems like a logical money-maker. And stuff like Ant-Man is high concept, stuff you could have fun with...personally, I was almost most excited to see Hawkeye on that list because you have the chance for a nice big action comedy...he's a wiseass after all. Good choices, profitable choices all around.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 11:06 a.m. CST


    by MechaTruffautMk2

    The coolest thing about this deal is that all of these characters will be at one studio, making it possible for them to crossover in each other's movies. Sure, Dr. Strange showing up to help Hawkeye beat up a goateed Ant-Man clone may not be as cool as Spider-Man swinging in to kick ass with the Fantastic Four against Dr. Doom and Magneto, but hey - it's a start. Also, as long as we're making an Ant-Man movie, let's not forget Ego the Living Planet and Sleepwalker. Oh, and Bruce Campbell for NFL Superpro.

  • and we already have The Hulk and the age-old rumours of Iron Man, who then is left to appear in an Avengers movie? If it doesn't have Cap, to me it's not The Avengers. Cap is the heart of the team, Iron Man is brains and bankroll, Thor is muscle and cheesecake, Ant Man is comedy relief, Scarlett Witch is the girl, The Wasp is the other girl (and love interest to Ant Man), and Vision is the fish-out-of-water who is trying to learn what it means to be human.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 11:21 a.m. CST


    by Terry_1978

    An Avengers film would literally bankrupt Paramount if it doesn't make a profit. And you can quote me on that one. I still want to see Stark in his own movie, though. __________________

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 11:24 a.m. CST

    Devil Dinosaur and Moonboy

    by BurlIvesLeftNut

    You know you want it.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 11:25 a.m. CST

    Boy they've really reached the bottom of the superhero barre

    by I Dunno

    Oh well. The bottom will drop out soon and then we'll start all over with Spider-Man Begins.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 11:29 a.m. CST

    I want a DEADPOOL movie too.

    by irishfella

    And maybe they could go one better by making it a Cable & Deadpool movie. Ryan Reynolds would be the perfect 'pool. Who could play cable?

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 11:38 a.m. CST

    Antman has huge potential/ underated hero!

    by thunderbird77

    If u take out some of the misplaced antman writing over the years , he is clearly one of the most undertapped franchises marvel has.. i'd love to see a well done antman movie, c'mon comparing it to honey i shrunk the kids shows ones zero knowledge of the hero. founding member of the avengers, creator of ultron, cool scientist,sexy assistant (wasp) Henry Pym will come off amazing with the latest special affects and I personally think a movie like antman could cross over well to all ages/ genders nicely and that meens great cash for the franchise!. visually should be stunning!

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 11:41 a.m. CST

    Dr Strange..

    by Yeti

    was already made into a movie (made for TV) years and years ago All I remember was that it was pretty lame. Along the lines of the Captain America movie that was made around the same time.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 11:42 a.m. CST

    Remember When...

    by The Funketeer

    Harry and Moriarty used to break news instead of telling us they knew something without actually telling us what that thing was? If you think you know who is making the Ant Man movie then tell us who it is, otherwise, stop being a corporate tease.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 11:56 a.m. CST

    At long last, the Shang-Chi, Power Pack, and Hawkeye films will

    by Darksider

    Is Marvel Studios on fucking crack?

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 11:58 a.m. CST

    Oh yeah, did anybody catch the much anticipated Man-Thing film?

    by Darksider

    No? Hmmm...

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 12:24 p.m. CST

    I fanally got to see...

    by Man Juice

    batman and robin this past weekend. i'm sorry but never really saw a need to view it on its original release. i honestly think it is the cinematic equivalent to an abortion. and i'm not talking bout the good kind, i mean one of the wire hanger deal. I still think it's 2 shit prints above league of extraordinary, but i swear to god i had to take penicillin after watching that shit. I think it gave my brain diarrhea. and how was your weekend?

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 12:29 p.m. CST


    by Truth0ne

    Both Cap AND the Avengers NEED to go to the same studio. They gotta be smart about this shit... Avoid that Spider-man/Venom issue again.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 12:29 p.m. CST

    With Dr. Strange Think Dark City

    by JUSTICE41

    Think of the mystical battles one just like in Dark City with all kinds of Demons like in Constantine. The Movie can be very well done. Cap really Needs the Spielberg touch.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 12:32 p.m. CST


    by SamBlackChvrch21

    If I were to ever see an Avengers film, I'd want to have them do the first story arc of "The Ultimates" as that book was written like a movie and reads like one too. But it seems that they are already puting that into production. The Avengers will probably consist of The Cap, Iron-Man, Thor and Vision. All characters that haven't been butchered by other companies yet. Unless they do New Avengers? but I can't imagine securing all of those characters for a flick. Doctor Strange could be WICKED cool. I think they are going to turn it into a Constantine type flick were the Doc deals with the Occult and its parallel to our world. On another note. Jim Lee's WildC.A.T.S. is being revamped at Wildstorm and will relaunch with a more reality based tone and costumes. Could this be the seeding for a Live Action version of the Covert Action Teams?

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 12:32 p.m. CST

    Marvel is a plague on the movie industry

    by Neo Zeed

    I don't get this shit at all. These Marvel guys are gonna oversaturate the movie market with flicks that nobody wants. Just like they overaturate the comic market with books that nobody wants. Just cause they've got the funds? What's next? Doom 2999 the movie with the "nu-metal soundtrack? Their ego is out of control! These guys think that every director's 4 star indie movie is just their calling card to direct a comic book movie. With Usual Suspects and Apt Pupil, Bryan Singer was on his way to become a powerful filmaking talent. Sadly nowadays his talents are merely used to make sure comic flicks don't come off as campy. As if that's the ultimate achievement in filmmaking. Newsflash to indie filmakers: If ya got a jones to make a sci-fi blockbuster, don't feel pressured to remix Marvel's C-list catalogue. Spielberg/Cameron don't have to. When Richard Kelly runs to direct a Night Thrasher movie with 'lil bow bow, the movie industry will be in flames!!

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 12:35 p.m. CST

    Gritty Adaptation = defying physics

    by beefywhore

    Lets not forget we are talking about Super-hero movies... In most cases superheros tend to defy physics...its how Superman flies, and how Spiderman climbs walls...and how Black Bolts head doesn't explode when he gets in a shouting match with his old lady...

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 12:40 p.m. CST

    How can an Avengers movie work when all of the core 'name&#3

    by JackBurton

    I mean think about it, locked in development Hell or no, Iron Man, Namor and Hulk are taken, as is Spider-Man of course, and they've sold off individual film rights to Paramoney for Captain America, Hawkeye (!), Black Panther, and Ant Man (!!), so who's going to be in the Avengers movie? Jarvis the butler and The Scarlet Witch? Oooh, exciting. I mean sure, if they were able to pull off using those four characters (and the actors cast in the roles) in both their own movies and an Avengers film, maybe, but how many actors are going to be willing to sign up to a contract that locks them into two potential franchises, and can you really see the studio using those characters in their own movies as well as an Avengers film? Just doesn't strike as being very likely. I mean I'd love to see a kickass Avengers film, but the odds seem stacked heavily against it. ************************************************************************** As for the rest of this announced lineup, Captain America I can see potential in, he has name recognition and if handled right could be a great, and non cookie cutter, flick. If handled wrong he'd be a cheesy embarassment in the extreme, but that's true of all botched comic bok films, when they go wrong they go really badly majorly embarrassingly awfully wrong in the extreme. Dr Strange I think has potential, because again, it's not only a name with the pop culture recognition factor, but it would be a different type of comic book movie, with it's own vibe to distinguish it from the pack, again if done right. Nick Fury should be gritty, hardcore and r-rated, it should be like a James Bond film with hardcore balls, play it PG (as marvel seems locked into doing) and too broad and it's just a disaster waiting to happen. And Black Widow can't sustain her own film (despite Marvel's attempts to do just that) and should be a supporting character in Fury's. ************************************************************************** As for the rest, with Avi talking a minimum 50 million dollar budget for each one, what the fuck are they thinking? 50 mill on a Shang Chi movie? On god damn Power Pack? On fucking Ant ("I'm not an Atom rip off, I swear")-Man? On Hawkeye ("Green Arrow who?)? I mean Ant-Man and Hawkeye in an Avengers film, cool. Ant-Man and Hawkeye in 50 million + dollar films of their own, how much God damn crack are you smoking Arad? And Paramount, just how desperate are you to get some of those "superhero movie" bucks if you're not even careful about just which characters you're bringing to the screen? A Cloak & Dagger movie (you know, Cloak & Dagger, one of those titles, much like Shang Chi, who seem to be almost impossible to even keep an ongoing comic run in print for anything more than a handful of issues), yeah, that's going to go down like a paedophile clown at a kids birthday party... ************************************************************************** Wake up Arad, not every damn character should be a movie, so how about you put your attention into the handful of characters with true cinematic possibilities, and work on making those the absolute best movies they could be, rather than trying to pump out every fucking character you can manage to flog off, regardless of quality and with little care about how the actual films will end out. Just a thought.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 12:43 p.m. CST

    Cloak And Dagger

    by kdoc13

    In addition to my little Dazzler rant earlier, I hope they make a kick ass flick out of Cloak And Dagger, and also Sleepwalker, that way the original comic books sitting in my basement might actually be worth something some day. Dazzler, catch the disco fever in 2007!

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 12:44 p.m. CST

    I'd rather have every Comic book made into a movie than watc

    by JUSTICE41

    At least with comics adaptations you get original concepts and ideas with every movie. That to me is more interesting than watching a stupid TV show like Dukes of Hazzard or Bewitched made into movies. Frank miller wrote or spoke about why Hollywood wants comics movies. e said something to the effect that Hollywood has creative people but not an original thought or idea. Comics no matter what genre are far more creative and original than any movie Hollywood churns out. He was warning the creators and artist not to allow the lure of hollywood to trick them into turning over their creations because he said hollywood will take an original concept and make it dull, unoriginal.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 12:48 p.m. CST


    by JWAO

    They should think about re-doing The Punisher and The Hulk. Because the last efforts really weren't that good. Especially The Punisher. I wonder which line up of The Avengers they're planning? I hope it's the original (Hulk, Thor, Iron Man, Ant Man, and Wasp).

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 12:51 p.m. CST


    by mostdwnloadedman

    How can I expect them to make a great movie with characters I've never heard of (power pack) when they totally dropped the ball with awesome ones like Daredevil and Punisher. I understand they will have more autonomy now and thats great, but c'mon anyone who would approve of the Punisher script has no business doing any more of these.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 12:55 p.m. CST

    What No Defenders?

    by JWAO

    Another great team with some of my fav heroes: Hulk, Sub-Mariner, Dr. Strange, & Silver Surfer.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 12:59 p.m. CST

    Any comic movie is appreciated

    by zekmoe

    Even FF , which wasn't that good at all, was great to see. I'd pay to see or own the dvd of any of the above outside of antman. Dr Strange, Avengers Hooray! More comic movies and less My Dinner With Andre or Sahara.

  • I didn't realize how spoiled I was by X-Men and The Incredibles, but I foud the Fantastic Four just too mediocre to care about. The action was bland, the visuals weren't new or interesting, and the plot/story was just been there done that. The characters might have been faithful, but they were also boring as hell--except for Doom, who was boring AND unfaithful. I guess it found an audience, but I don't know why. If these kinds of movies are going to be like FF from now on (and judging by Daredevil, Blade 3, and Electra, I'd say they are), then I'm really not interested in anymore movies based on Marvel Comics.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 1:06 p.m. CST

    This could be awesome

    by JimiChanga

    If handled correctly, that is. Being able to make movies where different characters can cross-over or do cameos at will would be amazing. That's the one thing that's kind of bothered me about successful superhero movies like the Spider-Man franchise. In the comics, Spider-Man is part of an entire world, and when watching the movies it felt kind of...weird, I guess, knowing that Daredevil wasn't wrecking shit 3 miles away or something. But if Marvel could actually recreate the Marvel Universe (sans Spidey and X-Men, unfortunately) in the movie world, that would be unprecedented. That said, I think the idea of having the first Cap flick set in World War II would be incredible. Think about it: we get the origin of Captain America and the Red Skull, a few WWII battles, and then at the end Cap "dies" trying to disarm a bomb over the English channel. Next, in the Avengers movie, we see the Avengers form and go through some major leadership struggles before fishing Cap out of the ocean. There's so much potential here for interlocking stories between movies, having storylines that feed off of each other. I'm salivating here.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 1:24 p.m. CST

    Ant Man, Ant Man, does whatever an ant can...

    by LeiaDown&FuckHer

    He can shrink, any size, gets in fights with giant flies, watch out for Ant Mannnnn, look out for Ant Mannnn, here comes Ant Mannnnnnnnnn...hardly instills confidence does it? I can see the tag line now: Coming To A Picnic Basket Near You, Soon! Edgar Wright? Bah, who gives a shit? Even James Fucking Cameron couldn't make me give a rats ass about an Ant Man movie. I mean as a supporting character in an Avengers movie, okay, but an Ant Man movie? Fuck off. Ditto that for Hawkeye. And as for Cloak & Dagger, Shang Chi, and, worst of all, fucking Power Pack, fuck off times infinity. I mean if they're so desperate to blow good money on bad shit, send it to me to waste on good drugs and loose women. Well, if you'll excuse me Uncle George has gone to bed so I'm off to fuck my sister...

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 1:27 p.m. CST

    Dr. Strange should have been Vincent Price in his heyday

    by IAmLegolas

    But since he's not with us.... how about Johnny Depp or Jude Law with Guillermo Del Toro or Terry Gilliam directing?

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 1:32 p.m. CST

    Power Pack?

    by fiester

    I guess if it was a flick that specifically targeted little kids, otherwise it would be a dog.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 1:32 p.m. CST


    by vikingkitty

    There was a Foolkiller ten issue limited series in the early 90's. I think a legitimately good movie could be made about a mentally unstable man who thinks it is his job to rid the world of all fools.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 1:40 p.m. CST

    Ant Man might be cool

    by Gheorghe Zamfir

    If its just a movie/story and not a super hero flick/franchise.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 1:41 p.m. CST

    Super Hero Actors.

    by fiester

    This is a funny thing, casting a super hero flick. I don't think stars is the way to go. It's not as easy as one would think, playing a super hero/comic book character. You have to be able to act; you have to be able to become the character, not have the character recut for your personality. And some people are just not comfortable acting in this sort of alternate reality. It's sort of like a Shakespeare or Deadwood in a weird way: some people seem to intuitively "get it" and melt right in and others do not--and those that do not stick out like sore thumbs. The famous Nicholson line to Keaton during the first Batman filming, something about "Relax kid, just let the suits do the work" is misleading, because it takes more than the suit: if you're counting on the suit to carry you as an actor, you're not going to turn out a good performance. But far too many actors think that's all it takes. I would contend it takes a certain type of actor to pull of this type of movie. Not everyone can do it. I don't know if this would count as skill in an acting sense. It's something less quantifiable. The best analog I can think of is someone like Peter Weller. Put Peter Weller in any future set, sci-fi flick and he just *fits* perfectly. I have no idea why. Maybe it's that weird shovel head of his or his kooky-flat delivery, but he just looks *right*. Now, put him in a straight-ahead, reality drama--and he looks awful! So maybe choosing actors based on their performances in traditional films in misleading when it comes to super hero/comic book casting. I really think it takes a special quality not all actors possess that goes beyond talent.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 1:43 p.m. CST

    Cap First

    by Turd Furgusen

    I would kill to see an origin movie of Cap done like the Ultimates. Then add him to the Avengers. Too cool.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 1:52 p.m. CST

    RE: Any comic movie is appreciated

    by Neo Zeed

    With this kind of thinking we moviegoers are about to get a whole slew of fantastic four quality shit. If the filmmakers can suck and people praise/buy the DVD's anyway why would they try at quality at all. And your logic of bad superhero movies are better than great indies or even decent action flicks is baffling. Bad movies are bad movies, superhero or not. And if you would rather enjoy an Uwe Boll directed Hydro-Man movie over My Dinner with Andre well then I pray for the future.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 2:04 p.m. CST


    by The Funketeer

    It was kind of a rhetorical question but thanks for revealing the info. Funny how we haven't read any spoilers on Ghost Town or Princess of Mars eh?

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 2:05 p.m. CST

    Foolkiller was already sort of done in ...

    by chrth

    Jay and Silent Bob Strikes Back. P.S. Gilligan is dead :(

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 2:26 p.m. CST

    Nick Fury - will it be SHIELD or The Howling Commandos?

    by jim

    DC should counter with a Sgt. Rock movie.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 2:31 p.m. CST

    Anybody read the Cap America where he's a werewolf?

    by MechaTruffautMk2

    Nobody is saying they'd rather see Uwe Boll's Tomb of Dracula over My Dinner with Andre (at least, I hope they're not). I think I see where someone is coming from when they say "any comic movie is appreciated". A lot of sci-fi and fantasy movies these days are pretty much ashamed of their genre origins - case in point, War of the Worlds. With a comic book movie, you're pretty much guaranteed over-the-top craziness and sci-fi shenanigans that aren't too grounded in realism (I'm not saying that's always a bad thing, but isn't that what we all prefer in our sci-fi adventure? Most of the time, fuck realism). Lots of comic movies being made means radar-headed ant-men, city-destroying giant robots, super-suited armored warriors and cosmic battles are assured on screen for a good 5-10 years to come. Sure, most of them will suck, but let's face it...most of these comics sucked anyway.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 2:31 p.m. CST

    Power Pack..oh, for.........what's next, "Howard the Du---".

    by Cletus Van Damme

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 2:37 p.m. CST

    Brother Voodoo vs. Forbush Man

    by jim

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 2:40 p.m. CST

    Bob Denver dead..long live Gilligan!

    by Jugs


  • That was gnarly

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 2:55 p.m. CST

    GODZILLA!! ... ... no, wait, think about it!

    by JasonPratt

    Seriously. The best Godzilla property since the 70s, was Marvel's 24 issue adaptation. (Not that there haven't been other versions since then that were better than the 70s, but Marvel sure did a whole lot better with their license from Toho than Tri-Star did...) Yep, the more I think about it, the more I like it--Marvel should petition Toho for license to make a new American Godzilla film. For dang sure it wouldn't be a GINO on the screen...

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 2:56 p.m. CST

    Hulk and Iron Man WILL be in the Avengers movie

    by blues

    According to the Wall Street Journal, Marvel had clauses written into their licenses with Universal and New Line that allows them to be used in a live action Avengers movie.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 2:57 p.m. CST

    Wesley Snipes MUST play Black Panther Man

    by Vern

    Of course, I got no clue who the fuck Black Panther Man is, but if Wesley wants to play him, sign him up. I don't think we're gonna be gettin any more Blade movies, so we're gonna have to settle for Black Panther Man. Thanks for your cooperation hollywood.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 2:59 p.m. CST

    Who's left to form The Avengers?

    by Rhett Butler

    Last word, Marvel had pimped-out the rights to all of the best characters. With their current corporate growth and greed the right hand still doesn't know what the left is doing. Or grasping.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 3 p.m. CST


    by jeffbon

    Dr. Strange: Pierce Brosnan Clive Owen Kris Angel Captain America: The Rock Russell Crowe Woody Allen Hawkeye: Thomas Jane Viggo Mortenson Alan Alda

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 3:02 p.m. CST

    Godzilla also turned up at DarkHorse with Art Adams on pencils

    by JUSTICE41

    It was a one shot. Nice artwork. Isn't this old news though? Wasn't this announce about four months ago? Or is this just a official announcement?

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 3:07 p.m. CST

    There's always DC and Jim Cameron's "Aquaparticipantinan

    by Ace Hunter

    But if we're talking Marvel, my vote is PowerMan and Ironfist. The "ebony and ivory" of the superhero world.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 3:11 p.m. CST

    Gilligan is dead and all you can worry about is Ant-Man...How ty

    by Monkeybrains

    God speed, little buddy

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 3:13 p.m. CST

    Worst Marvel character to make a movie about?

    by fiester

    I think it'd be fun to hear who talkbackers think would make the most laughably ridiculous or lamest comic book flick. My vote would go to US-1: it was some inane 12-issue run about a trucker who is in cybernetic contract/control with his big rig. Pure shite. I'd like to hear your thoughts. My only stipulation is it must be a character that has at least had his/her own mini-series, not just some random cameo in another character's book.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 3:13 p.m. CST

    It better be Millar Scripted "Ultimates"

    by AhopefullFANBOY

    Unless it's the "Ultimates" version of the Avengers it'll be crap. In fact, everything Marvel does except for the "Ultimates" Universe is crap. Everything they did BEFORE the "Ultimates" was crap. Anyone who disagrees is a virgin and an idiot. "The Ultimates" (and the various stoylines featuring them are the best American Comic books in the history of the medium.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 3:15 p.m. CST

    Gilligan has left the island

    by Smokey McSpliff

    Another icon from my youth gone. Rest in peace Bob Denver...

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 3:18 p.m. CST

    Live or Animation?

    by rjlpayne

    Wasn't there a story recently that some of these (Iron Man, Avengers) are coming out animated filmes, going direct to video?

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 3:27 p.m. CST

    Who really cares if any of these films are faithful?

    by Reelheed

    They just need to be good films (or better). Besides to be faithful to the current Avengers the lineup would be Cap, spidey, spideygal, ironman luke cage, wolverine and sentry. Neeeeever gonna happen...

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 3:28 p.m. CST

    Fiester, that does sound like terrible

    by jim

    I thought you meant USAgent. He replaced Steve Rogers as Captain America. When Steve came back, the replacement became the USAgent, which was just a poor-man's Cap. To paraphrase Chris Rock: "If you want Captain America, but all you can get is USAgent, wait."

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 3:39 p.m. CST

    bad Marvel movie idea

    by Ace Hunter

    Secret Wars 2. Anybody remember...whatshisname...The Beyonder(?)and his quest to fit in on Earth. He transforms himself into an eighties white Michael Jackson (complete with red leather jacket adorned with zippers). the first Secret Wars could be cool though.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 3:40 p.m. CST

    if i'm not mistaken, this was basically already announced, a

    by BEARison Ford

    that is all.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 3:45 p.m. CST

    Another vote for The Ultimates...

    by kiddae

    Call it The Avengers, base it on the first Ultimates arc, but with enough of a rewrite to include Eric Bana's Hulk. And Funkateer is right, that Ant-Man tease is some bullshit.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 3:53 p.m. CST

    Ace Hunter...when you say "White Michael Jackson..."

    by beefywhore

    You just meant "Michael Jackson..." right?

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 3:54 p.m. CST

    Just kiddin

    by beefywhore

    Secret Wars 1 was awesome...

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 4:04 p.m. CST

    Notice the trend...

    by Da'Moose

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 4:15 p.m. CST

    Ultimates sucks.

    by kintar0

    Just like all the rest of the Ultimate line. The only good thing about Ultimates is the kickass Bryan Hitch art. Millar is quite often hot or miss, and mostly miss.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 4:19 p.m. CST

    Defying physics?

    by XAOS

    Yes, I require strict realism in my Dr. Strange adaptations. "You fool, you cannot invoke the Flames of Faltine against Dormammu!"

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 4:21 p.m. CST

    Goodby Bob "Gilligan" Denver, does anyone remember...

    by ComputerGuy68

    another show Bob did back in the early 80's or late 70's? It involded him and some guy that looked like the Skipper. They were two janitors who got lost in space. I didn't see it on IMDB. Or am I going crazy? Anyone remember this???

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 4:27 p.m. CST

    Wildstorm Properties

    by ElGuapo1978

    As much as Im waiting to see Franklin Richards finally immortalized on screen I would be much happier to hear about an Authority or Planetary Movie in the works than even the Avengers.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 4:30 p.m. CST

    Marvel 1602!

    by Minister-o-Space

    Was hands down one of the most original Marvel comics I have read in years. The reimagining of the characters was very well handled, and it would probably works really well as a big budget six hour miniseries.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 4:48 p.m. CST

    Bob Denver in space

    by Ace Hunter

    computerguy, I vaguely remember the show. They were on a spaceship that was basically a "space garbage truck". I've never met anyone else who remembered the show so it's good to know I'm not crazy. Also, I could never remember if it was Bob Denver or Ken Berry or both(?) I seem to remember a hot chick in it that was an alien...or something. I was pretty young at the time but I seem to remember her really turning my lightsaber on if ya know what I mean. Ay?Ay? Nudge, nudge.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 4:49 p.m. CST

    Thank God for Goatzinger!

    by Ace Hunter

    I bow to the master.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 5 p.m. CST

    Marvel's New Super films

    by Dark_Silence "Each film is expected to have a budget of up to $165 million dollars and a rating no more restrictive than PG-13."

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 5:12 p.m. CST

    Am I...

    by tango fett

    the only one who really thought the Punisher was actually good enough to own? Just wonderin.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 5:14 p.m. CST

    A First Look at Ultimate Avengers

    by Dark_Silence

    A First Look at Ultimate Avengers! The movie is due (straight to dvd) in February of '06. According to the panel from Marvel and Lions Gate (the new MLG Studio) this is the first of many films to come. Follow the link for more:

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 5:34 p.m. CST

    Marvel should should take a breather

    by Neo Zeed

    Well that Uwe Boll stuff is just an exaggeration. But if an Uwe Boll-esque adaptation of Marvel character came out at this point would people still support Marvel Films? That's what I'm afraid of because the quality is beyond poor. The Punisher was even bested by the lundgren version, and that flick should have been a walk in park, at least in terms of action. We're living in the age of post Max Payne, Hard-Boiled, the matrix and the best that Hedgeland could come up with was some poorly done western template. It got terrible reviews (even from this site yet we are gearing up for the sequel?) I mean I know these are beloved characters and fans hope that they'll get them right the next time but how can they when these suits never give us the geek info that it will rock? And the Simon Birch man on yet another project! In marvel films thse guys just fail upwards. And when Singer left the fans thought "oh well at least they'll get a genre expert" and prayed for Ridley Scott, Whedon, Cameron, Alex Proyas, heck even the "infamous" Micheal Bay wouldn't be afraid of the EFX to make a sentinel. Instead they got Brett...Ratner. And fans freaked, but I expected it. its just Marvel's M.O. at this point. I figure they're so used to mid-range directors that they're afraid to even ask the real ones. What's next? The Ultimates directed by Rodger Spottiswoode? The comic movie Formula is getting a bit stale and predictible. They pick their directorial talent based on marketing alone. Step one get a director who a. some newbie who made a psychological indie flick so he's still afordable and will be critic proof or b. some "hit" director who was carried by his cast in his other flicks (Tim Story, Ratner) and they know it, thus they are easy for Avi to get. The common link between them all is that they have no decerning visual sytle opinions on fight scene, set design or special effects quality (70 percent of a superhero movie) and default to whoever's available to mediocre results. Then they hope that they can coast on making their characters uncampy and get props for that alone. Meanwhile not being Joel Schumacher aint exactly making it an exciting movie. I vote that Marvel quits the Hollyweird game with it's lame ass politics, then just make some cartoons until quality sci-fi/action directors show up. I'd love it if they hooked up with some japanese animators again and update their Pryde of the X-men art style with comic guys writing the scripts. At least it would give the DC guys a run for their money as they've been defaulting to Bruce Timm sytle for 13 years now. Plus i'd like to see the competetion.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 5:47 p.m. CST

    My comments about Bob Denver in space...

    by Ace Hunter

    ...were totally off base. Did some research. The show I was thinking about was just a tv pilot called "Quark" created by Buck Henry starring Richard Benjamin (not Bob Denver or Ken Berry). It was about garbage men in space. As for the hot chick in it...Misty Rowe. As far as Far Out Space Nuts it looked like cheesy fun. I'd still love to see that Quark pilot, though. Especially knowing now that Buck Henry created it.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 6:24 p.m. CST

    Also Worried about Avengers

    by trillerillion

    I don't think too many people in the general public will want to see a Captain America or Iron Man or Thor solo film. It would be much better for them as a team in a big-budget Avengers film. However, I don't think they'll have the balls to do this. Avengers will be like Hawkeye, Scarlet Witch, Vision, and fucking Tigress or something. I would also be into an Ultimates movie, which seems more cinematic than old-school Avengers.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 6:42 p.m. CST

    tony ja as shang chi

    by samuraiwahoo

    Ong Bak was beautiful. There needs to be more movies like this instead of remakes, horror movies, zombie movies, and, oh yeah, no more george lucas. Uh oh I am ranting. Chances are they will f*ck up every one of the movies listed. Shang Chi would be cool if they decided to make it really violent and dirty. OH YEAH, can't forget a sh*t load of bad a$$ kung fu

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 6:47 p.m. CST

    DEADPOOL, who would play him?

    by samuraiwahoo

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 6:48 p.m. CST

    I know who would play DEADPOOL

    by samuraiwahoo

    Woody Harleson, NATURAL BORN KILLERS style. He would be perfect

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 6:52 p.m. CST

    Punisher was great

    by samuraiwahoo

    People that didn&#39;t like this movie are probably the ones that are still kissing HELLBOY&#39;s ass. That&#39;s right, HELLBOY can eat <0ck

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 7:25 p.m. CST

    Where&#39;s EARTH X?

    by RezE11even

    That would be fantastic. Of course, so would Howard the Duck. No, I&#39;m being serious.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 7:49 p.m. CST

    As long as we&#39;re fantasizing....

    by MasterShake

    The Fantastic Four vs The Hulk. C&#39;mon, you know you want to see the Thing and Hulk duke it out.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 8:42 p.m. CST

    Michelle Rodriguez as Tigress?

    by BurlIvesLeftNut

    In the latest EW, there is a blurb about working with Stan Lee (wtf?) on a Tigress movie. HAHAHAHhAHHahahaha

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 9:07 p.m. CST

    Folks, I think the problem here

    by Smokey McSpliff

    is that when X-Men and Spiderman came out, they did so with solid directors who had real appreciation for the material and just a lot of effort went into the movies with good result. But now, as the quantity of output increases, Marvel has shown a willingness to pass its characters off to the first uproven hack to come down the pike (or in Brett Ratner&#39;s case, a proven hack) or to someone like Ang Lee who clearly had no business making a comic book movie. When Marvel fucks up a single issue of a comic book it&#39;s no big deal, because we know there&#39;s going to be another one out in a month, but when they fuck up a movie it hurts because we know that that&#39;s the last Punisher, Daredevil, or FF we&#39;re going to see for quite some time. We have a lot at stake, a lot invested in the source material and I don&#39;t think that the people at Marvel and DC really appreciate that. I think we can expect a lot of crapola in the near and distant future and all we can do is hope that Hollywood will get some of them right in spite of themselves (especially The Avengers!) Final point: the greatest comic movie ever made has yet to be made by James Cameron. When is that fucker going to come out of retirement? Enough with the water movies already.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 9:25 p.m. CST


    by kdoc13

    Woody Allen as Captain America? You know, I might just actually pay to see that.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 9:37 p.m. CST

    Marvel Movies

    by kdoc13

    All previous joking about Dazzler behind (Prepare to be Dazzled in 2007, ok that was the last one, I swear!) I found that the director&#39;s version of Daredevil was actually pretty good. I am no appologist, I have been a big DD fan since I was a kid, and except for having the fight with the Kingpin in the first flick (it being poorly shot) and the fact that he knows DD&#39;s identity, the rest of the film is incredibly tight. Seriously, if you end it at the fight with Bullseye in the church and cut straight to the scene with Murdoch on the roof, and add another voice over from Joe P that builds up to kingpin, you would have a hell of a movie. I can&#39;t wait for the next one. What I have a problem with in the Marvel movies are when they stray way off course (Sorry, not to start a flae war, but Hulk.) The Hulk was annoying, hard to follow with all the jellyfish DNA mixing with gamma rays and then whatever the hell Nick Nolte was, the comic book frames were a terrible idea, and the only parts where you got excited were when he was smashing shit, and those were too few in number. X-2? If you are going to assault a school full of mutants, I want to see a fight, no runing away. Whenever a good fight was about to happen, Bryan Singer muted it and made it boring. I worry about the story for X-3, but if he ha s mutants doing cool shit like the nightcrawler scene at the begining of X-2 but follows through on it, I will be happy. I Actually don&#39;t see the minor characters in an Avengers movie as being a problem. This could be just me, but seriously the first spider man looked cool for the webbing and swinging around and stuff, but didn&#39;t it lose its intrigue in the second one? X-men has Kitty Pryde running through a wall, is that going to get you hyped up in X-3 or are you going to say, I&#39;ve seen that before? This is why I would be thrilled about the minor characters being used in the Avengers. Once you see the powers at work, in a story that could be tailored around those things, you can dump them off and bring in new ones for the next flick. Just some thoughts.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 9:48 p.m. CST


    by KongMonkey

    I wanna see a live action adaptation of the Incredible Hulk. I know that Ang Lee did some live action sequel to Shrek not too long ago, but DAMN IT, I want the HULK to SMASH THE SHIT OUT OF EVERYTHING YOU CAN FIT ON SCREEN!

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 9:56 p.m. CST

    Ultimates and Runaways, pronto!

    by Tall_Boy

    fo shizzle.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 10:03 p.m. CST

    1) Ang Lee&#39;s HULK Is Grossly Underrated, They Should Make A

    by ZombieSolutions

    the new HULK game for PS2 is great. similar to the SPIDERMAN2 game. basically -- GRAND THEFT SUPERHERO. you&#39;ll love it to pieces, mices.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 10:17 p.m. CST

    predictions for Avi Arad&#39;s next list of directors

    by Neo Zeed

    Trust me fellas Avi&#39;s idea of A-list directors aint the same as yours. His mind is more like "No Chris Cunningham, yes to Jon Amiel, Mimi Leder, Martin Campbell, Jon Avnet,John Herzfeld" He&#39;s kind of an oat bran cereal eating, in bed before Leno, keeping in 50 miles under the speed limit kinda guy.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 10:19 p.m. CST


    by Jellylover

    I remember Ryan Reynolds saying that he would love to play the great Wade Wilson and that would rule if he did. The only person that could pull it off better would be...Drumroll please......DANE F&#39;N COOK. Steve Buscemi as weasle. Avi make DeadPool please.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 11:17 p.m. CST

    i dont give a sweaty asshole stretching shit anymore.

    by calami-shami

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 11:19 p.m. CST


    by calami-shami

    all these movies are going to suck. Each and every one of them. And thats that. Thats just the way its going to be.

  • Sept. 6, 2005, 11:23 p.m. CST

    Moriarity Pisses Me Off

    by barryap

    AIC was once a source of news. Now, they tell us they know something but they won&#39;t tell us what it is? Corporate shill a-holes.

  • Sept. 7, 2005, 2:24 a.m. CST

    What, no...?

    by D_Biederbeck

  • Sept. 7, 2005, 2:26 a.m. CST

    What, no...?

    by D_Biederbeck

    Spirit of &#39;76? The Shroud? Scourge? Will the AquaNotThatThere&#39;sAnythingWrongWithThat film feature Black Manta? And how about the Apache Chief movie?

  • Sept. 7, 2005, 4:33 a.m. CST

    I want a Jonah Hex movie damn it!

    by JackBurton

    And, believe it or not, I&#39;m not kidding. Fucking Power Pack? Jesus...

  • Sept. 7, 2005, 4:40 a.m. CST

    screw Marvel

    by simongarth2001

    After ruining their flagship, comic, Fantastic Four...I can care less what slop, Marvel has in the wings. Fire Avi Arad...then I might start listening again.

  • Sept. 7, 2005, 6:51 a.m. CST

    The good thing about The Avengers in the comics...

    by DocPazuzu exactly the thing which, in my mind at least, makes the film almost impossible to work, namely familiarity with the characters. I have no idea what the current line-up looks like, but I seem to recall them almost entirely made up of superheroes with huge and complex backstories which comic readers have known about for years ahead of time. An Avengers movie would have to consist entirely of origin stories or only broad sketches of the heroes&#39; backgrounds. Neither of these solutions will make the movie work. The former will be much too disorganized and messy, and the latter would deny the characters any heft and only make them seem laughable in the eyes of a non-comic fan audience. On the other hand, if individual films detailing each character&#39;s origin were made with the ultimate goal being to unite them in a future Avengers film, then it could work -- but what are the chances of a plan like that coming to fruition? And yes, if Spielberg were to make a superhero movie, Captain America would be the only sane choice.

  • Sept. 7, 2005, 6:55 a.m. CST

    "TV OR NOT TV"...

    by Master Bruce

    Why the hell does Avi think that every Marvel comics character MUST BE a movie? Whatever happened to turning super-heroes into live-action tv series? Let&#39;s face it: most of these characters have little or no "household name" value w/the general audience which means lackluster box office. However, if they turned up on television in a quality show, the viewing audience just might give &#39;em a chance. Hell, even if they all ended up on UPN at least they&#39;d have something worth worth watching on their schedule. BTW, both DAREDEVIL & THE PUNISHER would&#39;ve been much better served as tv series than as crappy B movies any day. Remember-Viacom owns Paramount as well as UPN & CBS!

  • Sept. 7, 2005, 7:18 a.m. CST

    GoatZinger, I thank you!

    by ComputerGuy68

    The picture in IMDB threw me off. I remember that it was pretty bad, but as a 7 year old kid, I really liked Gilligan and was glad to see Bob in something else.

  • Sept. 7, 2005, 8:08 a.m. CST

    They should make a movie based on Kirby&#39;s "2001"... that wou

    by TheWoodMan

    It would have to be ULTIMATE 2001, though, so it would be ULTIMATELY AWESOME. Nothing would be worse than a "2001" movie that was just two hours of dudes talking and then a bunch of bad special effects at the end that don&#39;t make any sense. Dude... that would ULTIMATELY SUCK. Imagine how AWESOME the Monolith could look on screen, blasting alien attack fleets and shit, and then changing the Dude in the orange spacesuit into the Space Baby... AWESOME. Also they need to BRING IN VENOM, NOW. I know that old fart Kubrick said he was only gonna use "old school" characters (WHICH ARE TOTALLY BORING AND SUCK) in his "2001" movies but now he&#39;s dead so they should totally get Brett Ratner and have him BRING IN VENOM, NOW.

  • Sept. 7, 2005, 9:10 a.m. CST

    moray, i was thinking of QUARK. oops.

    by Ace Hunter

  • "Taste steel, brother."

  • Sept. 7, 2005, 9:43 a.m. CST


    by johnhawks

    SIX HOURS? You think 1602 had enough material to fill six hours? it&#39;s only 9 issues. It takes me fifteen mins to read a comic. 15 x 9 = 135! What a perfect lenghth! :)

  • Sept. 7, 2005, 10:34 a.m. CST

    Naw, Hulk Hogan should play Vision

    by jim

    "Ultron is my brother, brother".

  • Sept. 7, 2005, 12:02 p.m. CST

    I realized after seeing the Fanastic Four that the reason I am s

    by Mr. Profit

    And I was basically fooling myself for thinking any of these films were for grown ups. And after Batman Begins, basically every other movie is doomed. BB was finally the comic movie for grown ups. But I don&#39;t think that filmmakers are going to go darker and sacrifice box office returns. BB made 200 here. Far from a flop, but not Spiderman money. And that&#39;s what everyone wants....

  • Sept. 7, 2005, 12:45 p.m. CST

    Mr. Profit

    by Ribbons

    Go through a list of Marvel&#39;s movies and tell me which ones -- besides for &#39;Spider-Man&#39; -- are made for kiddies. As an addendum to that, would you really want -Spider-Man&#39; to be as "adult" as &#39;Batman Begins&#39; anyway? Been saying it for a long time, folks; fanboys have irrational hard-ons for "dark" fare. As for the list posted here, it&#39;s interesting. I&#39;m not so sure how well an Avengers movie would work, but everything else has the potential to be quite good in my opinion. &#39;Power Pack,&#39; like &#39;Fantastic Four,&#39; probably will be aimed at kids. A word of advice, Marvel: don&#39;t patronize the children you&#39;re talking to; follow the Harry Potter mold.

  • Sept. 7, 2005, 2:31 p.m. CST

    As long as Hasselhoff returns as Nick Fury, I&#39;ll be happy

    by kuryakin

    I mean, how long HAS he been looking for freedom anyway?

  • Sept. 7, 2005, 2:37 p.m. CST

    The Silver Surfer

    by pumaman

    apparently Vin Diesel is still interested in this project. A fan asked the question at a recent premier he was attending.

  • Sept. 7, 2005, 2:42 p.m. CST

    These people always say they&#39;re interested

    by kuryakin

    But unless they are actively pushing for the film to be made it just sounds like bullshit. Tom Cruise was apparently trying to get Iron Man made for years but couldn&#39;t get the money/directors/alignment of planets together or something. But I&#39;m sure the version Avi Arad is going to spend 50 mil on will be just smashing

  • Sept. 7, 2005, 3:46 p.m. CST


    by Spaz Medicine

    Edgar Wright turning Ant-Man into a comedy does have a great chance at being kick-ass. And yes, I and many other geeks, would definitely line up to see the movie willingly after the genius that was SHAUN OF THE DEAD.

  • Sept. 7, 2005, 3:53 p.m. CST

    Fantastic Four Was A Terrible Waste And Should Be A Warning To M

    by Barron34

    You have to view the major Marvel characters as franchises, not as single films. The fact is, Marvel is running out of major characters to build films around. Seperate films are feasible for Captain America, Iron Man, Doctor Strange, Thor, and a few others, but otherwise you are dealing with second-string characters that will not be blockbuster material. So, the key is to do everything humanly possible to make the first film for any major characters exceptional, or do not make the film at all. The Fantastic Four film screwed the pooch, but almost could have been a good movie, and began a franchise. Instead, it was done in a hackish manner, and now there is limited franchise possibility. The key weakness, for me, was the reduction of Doctor Doom, probably the greatest Marvel villain, in to an annoying, unthreatening, shallow, vain, pretty-boy, oily, pseudo-corporate nobody. Not a villain at all, and certainly not Doctor Doom. If they had stuck to the comic version of Doom and made him powerful and threatening, the movie might have been something. Anyway, they need to put the utmost care into their remaining lead characters and properties. An Ant-Man movie might be an interesting mid-budget project, but it will not be anything approaching a Spiderman or X-Men. This is a tertiary character. So, Marvel needs to "get" its remaining top-tier characters right. That basically means Captain America, Iron Man, maybe Dr. Strange (second tier already), Black Panther (second tier, yet an interesting character), and so on. My feeling is that they should make solo movies for the lead Avengers characters first, and THEN make an Avengers movies AFTER the leading Avengers characters have already been presented to the movie-going public in solo films. The Avengers are fundamentally different from the X-Men. X-Men is inherently an ensemble super-hero action/soap opera. The Avengers is really more of an all-star team of stand-alone superheroes that is not so much an ensemble as a collection of distinct and seperate individuals. They really should go all out making a Captain America flick spanning his WWII origins and eventually bringing him into the present. Whoever suggested Spielberg was dead-on target. Iron Man should be made as a cross between a techno-thriller and a superhero movie, again as a stand-alone film. Both Captain America and Iron Man should be done all-out, not on the cheap and with tacky compromises like the Fantastic Four. Both Cap and Iron Man should be viewed as the first films in a franchise. They need to be anchors for future films. You need to spend some money to make money here, and make a decent quality film, like Singer&#39;s X-Men or Raimi&#39;s Spiderman. That means hiring experienced filmmaking talent THAT CARES ABOUT THE SOURCE MATERIAL AND HAS SOME RESPECT FOR THE FANS. We are the core audience, and we drive the buzz on these films. If Captain America and Iron Man can be well made, then the Avengers could be made much further down the line, after the lead heroes are introduced in their own films, whereas new characters like the Vision, the Scarlet Witch, Hawkeye, and so on can be added to the Avenger film as newer characters to add interest to the established Cap and Iron Man....These are the core "block-buster" and "franchise" potential characters, I think- Cap, Iron Man, and the Avengers. Cloak and Dagger might make a nice mid-level film, even a franchise like the Blade films, but the tent-pole properties revolve around Cap, Iron Man, and then the Avengers, I think...So, hopefully the people at Marvel will really insist on high quality films for these main characters so as to ensure a long-running franchise like Raimi&#39;s Spiderman has turned out to be, or that Nolan&#39;s exceptional Batman film is sure to start...That should be the core goal of Marvel. Then, they could surround the major characters with smaller films featuring the lesser characters. Maybe an Ant-Man flick would be entertaining, but it is clearly not what hardcore comics fans are clamoring for...Just do a good job with the main characters, give us great villains to oppose the heroes (unlike the botched attempt at Doctor Doom), and pay respect to the fans and the source material, like Raimi and Singer have been able to do with their respective projects...

  • Sept. 7, 2005, 4:24 p.m. CST

    Of Course...

    by Barron34

    They ARE going to make a Fantastic Four 2, so even though the film was sub-par, in many fans view, it DID make enough money to satisfy the execs, so my original argument does not quite hold up...OK, fair-enough...I liked the lead actors in FF well-enough, but their poor excuse for Doctor Doom was sad... to me, the film did not have legs...I went to see Batman Begins in the theatre three times simply because it was great, just what fans would want in a Batman movie...I will certainly own it on DVD when it comes out..the Fantastic Four? I saw it once and left the theatre feeling COULD have been good..I mean, the movie had a $100 million dollar budget...AND there were good aspects to it (Chicklis as the Thing, the Four as a squabbling family, etc), but honestly, it just was bad, in my opinion, esp. in its weak portrayal of Doom, who should be as menacing as Darth Vader, not some whiny yuppie pretty-boy suit. (Vader is rumored to have been partly inspired by Dr.Doom). So, while Fantastic Four made money, it did not get my repeat business, nor will I buy it on DVD..I suspect that I will not be the only fan in that camp...So, a sub-par Fantastic Four movie WILL make money and spawn a sequel, but its business certainly DID drop off (as Harry pointed out), and it did not have the durability and fan appeal that a better movie might, the original argument DOES, in fact, stand: make these movies well, and with respect for the material, and you will be rewarded...

  • Sept. 7, 2005, 4:27 p.m. CST


    by Barron34

    A sub-par movie, like Fantastic Four, might still make money, simply because it is the Fantastic Four, done with a big budget, but ultimately, the movie will make much more money if it is made with more care...

  • Sept. 7, 2005, 5:24 p.m. CST

    Almost all of These Have Potential

    by DeeJay

    Regarding Ant-Man... if you consider the potential visuals, integration of entomology, and the manner in which Hank Pym&#39;s usage of his technology was expanded in the late 80&#39;s, you&#39;d recognize that this film could actually make the big time. Regarding Hawkeye... if they use the storyline from his first mini-series, the film will be a hit. It may not have been "God Loves, Man Kills," but that 4-part series was on the cutting edge. I will admit that a Power Pack movie is a bit of a stretch (and this is coming from someone who collected the majority of the book&#39;s first run). Were they to make it "kiddie" they could probably make their negative return. I just wouldn&#39;t plan to watch it. Yeti... the Dr. Strange movie that I saw was early 70&#39;s, and the Captain America movie (as opposed to the live action tv series) was mid 80&#39;s. Both are now a little old, but they weren&#39;t made around the same time.

  • Sept. 7, 2005, 5:37 p.m. CST


    by kuryakin

    You said in that huge post above "We are the core audience, and we drive the buzz on these films" I wish this were true but it isn&#39;t. Look at the worldwide takings of Fantastic Four. Look at all the promotions, merchandising, interviews &#39;making-of&#39;s there were. Comic book fans are what - 100, 200 thousand people in the WORLD. I don&#39;t know where you are on our globe but here in the UK, they pimped this bitch of a movie for all it was worth. Chat shows, those shitty making-of things, the whole works. It doesn&#39;t matter what 100000 people say when 20 million go and see the film. Fantastic Four is just a phrase for the majority of the people who went. They do not care. Most people know Superman, Spiderman, Hulk, Batman and Wonder Woman. They know them from film and TV. To most people in the world, the FF are actually obscure. Comic fans see them as the centre of the universe but to most people they ARE Jessica Alba, the guy from The Shield and the Welsh bloke from the end of Titanic. And some cute blonde guy. You can talk all you want about how they "must" spend 100 mil on Iron Man or Captain AMerica but the fact is that they aren&#39;t listening. You think we matter? This site ripped the shit out of the FF movie from pre-production onwards. I understand your last post, that the movie would have made more money if it had been done with care and you may well be right. But profit is all these fucks think about and if they think they can profit from making Nick Fury a high school kid who spies in the evenings; or Iron Man a failed NBA superstar played by Will Smith given a chance to pilot a metal suit by an aging Anthony Hopkins; or have Captain America played by Will Ferrell in a comedy about a man with 40&#39;s values being shocked by modern life ( actually, didn&#39;t I see this recently in the actual comic?) then they will make it and fuck all of your opinions.I apologise for my language and any spelling errors but Scotland beat Norway 2-1 tonight and Oddbins had a special deal on Havana Club. Wayhey!

  • Sept. 7, 2005, 5:38 p.m. CST

    Peter Hooten as the Ancient One!!

    by Borgnine JR

    He was Doc Strange in the cheese-o-rama that was the first Strange flick, he deserves to be in the remake.

  • Sept. 7, 2005, 7:53 p.m. CST

    gimmie my live action MIGHTY MOUSE!

    by KongMonkey

    Little brown Stewart Little kicking asses across the screen. Killing crooks with giant mantraps baited with diamonds.

  • Sept. 8, 2005, 12:31 a.m. CST

    "Shaun of the Dead" director Edgar Wright in talks for ANT-MAN

    by kronoskills

    Once again, AICN is not up to date with the news; check out the link to SuperheroHype: This is some fun news, especially since he plans on making it a comedy; which it deserves to be.

  • Sept. 8, 2005, 12:37 a.m. CST


    by halfmadjesus

    Loved Shaun of the Dead. And I can see how making an Ant-Man comedy easily adds up in the mind of Edgar Wright. I mean, most of you here think the character is a joke, a hoot, or what-have-you. But that&#39;s just it - it&#39;s EASY. Similar to how Hollywood always looks at old TV shows when they decide to make movies out of them. "The Six Million Dollar Man - that&#39;s a goofy old show. TEE-HEE...he makes bionic noises when he runs. Get Jim Carrey!" I get it - it&#39;s quaint, outdated, campy, and so on. Why do you automatically HAVE to pick up on that and regurgitate it for an audience though? In the 70&#39;s, the Six Million Dollar Man passed for straight action/drama. Kids watching it didn&#39;t think it was a knee-slapping joke - they thought Steve Austin was cool. My point is, just because something seems goofy in retrospect, doesn&#39;t mean it has to be presented that way today. Marvel could make an Ant-Man movie as serious as, say, either of the Spider-Man films and have it be just as viable an action/adventure franchise. The REAL challenge comes in playing an Ant-Man movie relatively straight and having audiences buy into the character and the concept. The REAL challenge comes in taking one of the original Silver Age Marvel heroes - the one who wasn&#39;t a hit - and turning him into something that finally connects with people. Frankly, I think playing up the comedy of a superhero with a goofy costume and kind of a useless power won&#39;t really be as funny as people seem to think. It&#39;s kind of a one-note gag - "TEE-HEE...he&#39;s a lame superhero!" Yeah, that&#39;s a riot all right - for about five minutes.

  • Sept. 8, 2005, 12:41 a.m. CST

    Truly sucks that Dr.Mordrid was a ripoff of Dr. Strange in so ma

    by Monkey_King

    and it&#39;s incredibly embarassing that nearly all the Full Moon films were "based on an idea by Charles Band." This guy must&#39;ve been brain dead or just fucking brain fried to unleash most of his Full Moon trash, then Moon Beam trash upon us all. Let&#39;s get a decent Dr. Strange with shades of &#39;Warlock&#39; in there and it will work. Shang Chi would be good if they could get Robin Shou or Donnie Yen to do it. Tony Jaa perhaps. How about a Morbius film, that would be awesome.

  • Sept. 8, 2005, 3:50 a.m. CST


    by banthafodderUK

    smoke me for a fiver fuckers

  • Sept. 8, 2005, 8:23 a.m. CST

    Edgar Wright directing Ant-Man??

    by DannyOcean01

    So let&#39;s say the report on CHUD is right...WHO CARES!??!! Shaun of the Dead is one of the most overrated flicks ever made. It&#39;s got such a big reception from the US as part of their &#39;Oh aren&#39;t the Brits so cute when dey be making films&#39; program. Great Mori, if he&#39;s directing we can all start salivating, especially if it&#39;s going to be a comedy....

  • Sept. 8, 2005, 12:41 p.m. CST

    Could be good

    by Samfan

    Frankly, I agree with Jessica_Six that this could be GOOD news, if done well. The movies should appeal not just to comic fans but to the general public. Here&#39;s what *I* think they should do...............Captain America: Play it straight up with a blond, square-jawed actor who can wave the flag without smiling self-consciously, set it in the WWII era, make Baron Zemo the villain (save Red Skull for the sequel) and totally steal the visual style of Sky Captain...................Iron Man: Take the plunge -- whenever he&#39;s wearing the suit, make him all-CGI, and pull out all the plugs. Really blow up some stuff................Power Pack: Develop a sentimentality similar to The Incredibles or Sky High, make it G or PG, and sell it to families (As a parent, I know -- we&#39;re always looking for stuff we can take our kids to)..............Dr. Strange: Make it an R-rated horror flick, raw and scary. Personalize it, too, by giving him a well-developed character you care about to rescue.................Hawkeye: After the amazing stuff he did with a bow in LotR, yes, I would pay $8 to see a Hawkeye movie starring Orlando Bloom. Start bulking up now, Orlando...............Avengers: I agree with kdoc13 -- make the first one with "minor" characters. Base the plot on their powers, and focus on making it surprising and creative rather than going for a blowout with uber-characters like Thor. Hold off on the one starring the big characters until Peter Jackson, or some other director who isn&#39;t afraid to think big, is available, and do as Barron34 suggested: use big name characters who have already had their own origin movies done.

  • Sept. 8, 2005, 3:44 p.m. CST


    by FrodosBlueBalls

    now i&#39;ve never been to this website before, but dark horizons had it listed....h ttp://

  • Sept. 8, 2005, 3:45 p.m. CST

    what a horrible choice (if this is true)

    by FrodosBlueBalls

    topher grace can not possibly be venom....marvel is at it again!

  • Sept. 8, 2005, 4:56 p.m. CST

    Why not? Ultimate Spider-man Venom isn&#39;t a big guy

    by jim

    Venom is the brawn, Brock is just the hots

  • Sept. 8, 2005, 4:58 p.m. CST

    Do&#39;h, I meant "host"

    by jim

  • Sept. 8, 2005, 6:39 p.m. CST

    I&#39;ve been waiting 35 years for a Dr. Strange movie -

    by Blabbermouse

    - ever since a college buddy gave me a carton full of Ditko Strange Tales stories to read. (Not sure if this is saying much, but that &#39;70&#39;s TV movie was head &#39;n shoulders above the Spidey & Cap movies they did around the same time.) Good bad or worse, I&#39;m there on opening day for Doc Strange; I may even light up a number again for the first time in years, just to get back into the frame of mind of when I first read those comics... And as long as we&#39;re talking about Marvel adaptations, I can&#39;t believe how baaad Ang Lee&#39;s Hulk turned out. You woulda thought the guy who made CTiger/HDragon would have a feel for superheroics, but his bright idea was &#39;comic book panels come to life.&#39; (Why didn&#39;t he go for 60&#39;s Batman POW! BAM! effects while he was at it?) For all its cheesiness, Bixby&#39;s TV series had so much more heart and understanding of the character than Lee&#39;s mess.

  • Sept. 9, 2005, 10:56 a.m. CST


    by ScaredCrab

    That was the funniest post the history of all posts. I left a brown dot in the back and a yellow dot in the front.