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Which old flames will Indy possibly see in his fourth outing'
Ahoy, squirts! Quint here with a little more kindling for the rumor bonfire regarding Indiana Jones 4. I know most are skeptical of this project happening, but we know for sure that Spielberg, Lucas and Ford are happy with the new screenplay from Jeff Nathanson and the word is Spielberg is penciling INDY 4 in next year, after he finishes his Lincoln picture with Liam Neeson. To add on to that, I've gotten reports from people inside of Paramount who claim to have seen some paperwork and other items with the INDY 4 title marked clearly on them, which would seem to indicate that the film is gathering steam inside Paramount as well. Unless something big shows its face to trip up the production, I'd say we're going to be seeing our favorite leather jacket, whip and fedora again.
Add on to all that this interview with Kate Capshaw that People did where she spills the beans on some possible dames showin' up in INDY 4. I personally would love to see Indiana cross paths with Marion Ravenwood again. Actually, if they really want to make me happy Indy will end up settling down Marion. She was always the best suited for him. And I will state officially right now I'll roll my eyes to such a degree they may roll right out of my head if Calista Flockhart has more than a cameo in the movie!
The stars are aligning, folks. I'm confident in Spielberg making another worthy installment to the Indiana Jones franchise, especially if he makes the film closer to the tone of RAIDERS. That was my one big problem with LAST CRUSADE, a movie I still dearly love, but it was starting down the road of self-parody. If that's the way the 4th film is planning on going, I'd rather not see it be made, but I think there's still a great Indiana Jones adventure to be had with our favorite creative team and Ford. Here's the interview excerpt!
Kate Capshaw talked to People Magazine about her career, kids, famous hubby and a new Indiana Jones. here's a bit of the interview
People : Is Steven doing another Indiana Jones?
KC : Yes, sometime next year. I believe Willie Scott's going to be making an appearance too.
People : What will that entail?
KC : I can't say. Not because Steven's sworn me to secrery, but because I really don't know yet. All I know is Willie might be coming back, Karen Allen, and possibly Calista [Flockhart]. I think Harrison's going to be outweighed by the women in the next one.
People : Who have you enjoyed working with the most?
KC : Besides Steven Spielberg? (Laughs). Sean Connery was just heaven. We made a movie called Just Cause together. I also enjoyed working with Tom Selleck on the Love Letter and of course Harrison on Indiana Jones. Dennis Quaid is also lovely - and very talented.
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Hated that character! Bring back the Asian boy (shortround?)
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if Willie makes a cameo, thats an indication that everything has gone staright to SHIT. Marion Ravenwood only for the fourth.
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Can't we just have the news without a gay innuendo in every subject?
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he ends up with Marion, and not Willie.
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Aug 18, 2005 2:59:26 AM CDT
Oh yeah FIRST! but thats not important, what is important is tha
by the ghost of marcus brody
this movie can NOT suck. If it does in fact suck, it means that all of my childhood and all of my fondest memories were just a hollywood bank machine waiting to suck the happy out of me and george lucas only cares about making enough money to care for his rockabilly wanna-be haircut and to buy the latest Columbia flannel shirt as he pretends that ILM is doing something cool for once. CGI will ruin Indy. Just remember that hollywood.
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Lame.
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If they're insisting on bringing one of them back she's the only one worth it. There jsut nothing to like about Capshaw's character or her relationship with Indy, its gotta be Marion all the way.
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Aug 18, 2005 3:08:02 AM CDT
And I thought Ford shot down Flockhart being in the movie
by gheorghe zamfir
Those rumors were flying a year or two ago and I thought Ford came out and said in no uncertain terms that she would not be in the movie.
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drank a beer and cheated on Calista Flockhart.
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One part of me is screaming that trilogies should be kept as trilogies. Look what happened to the Alien series when they introduced the 4th!
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'Cuz it had a pretty neat reunion for Indy and Marion. Too bad it was a bogus script.
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George Lucas should play Indy!! Think of that gravelly voice delivering the "it belongs in a museum!" line! Think of him swinging that ample frame over an alligator pit! Think of him blurring past avoiding a big rolling ball wearing the trademark red lumberjack shirt!!
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Aug 18, 2005 3:20:59 AM CDT
For at least--what?--five years, they've been saying that ev
by frankdrebin
but there's still no script! We've had 4 Harry Potters, 3 Pirates Of The Caribbean, 3 Spider-Mans, and 3 X-Men movies completed in the time they've SUPPOSEDLY been putting the "finishing touches" on the script. If Lucas & Spielberg & Ford REALLY wanted to make this film, Paramount (which is desperate for a franchise) would have fast-tracked it like nothing's ever been fast-tracked before. I'll believe it when the opening titles roll.
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they better make it the same style as the three in the trilogy I bought so I can just take out the bonus disc and put that one in there . . . in other news, can't say I'm a fan of quadrilogies
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Had some nice ideas, but I hated the character of the son. Really terrible. I love the original trilogy, even Temple, and I was always a fan of a fourth film, but the longer they stall, the more I think it's just a plain bad idea. Come on. It's already 15 years ago. Indy is an icon of the 1980s and should stay that way.
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Short round was the most enjoyable part of Indy 2. It would be great if Short Round was back for the reunion film. Either that, or he should have a new boy as a side kick, to carry on the tradition.
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It's been a while since Indy 2 so you know he don't look like no kid. The last time I heard about him, he was a martial arts coordinator in Hollywood.
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Indy and the Last Crusade dealt with self-referential humour. Enough shit repeats in your life. You are going to make fun of it. Why geeks fixate on the oddest things continues to fascinated. Especially when they state they LOVE something. Who knew LOVE had this many attachements to it? I surely didnt.
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Love shouldn't have any attachments. There are all kinds of love, and people need to accept it for the beautiful thing it is. Regardless of how other people see things, the only real thing is the love between two people. Sometimes society makes judgements about a certain type of love, but they should just be happy that the love exists and not try to tear it down with arbitrary judgements.
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There's a huge amount of character development and mileage in a hero getting older - just look at Bruce Wayne in Dark Night Returns. I just hope that if they have a sub plot where he's passing the torch on to a new generation they get an actor who can convey the 'swagger' that Harrison Ford has brought to the franchise. -(Nathan Fillion? maybe)
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Get the script right and have Karen Allen back in it. Indy's getting older. He wants to do something that he'll be remembered for. It doesn't matter how old Ford is as long as the script has the same spirit and class that Raiders did. I can't believe writers like Darabont haven't been able to capture that magic already.
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I'm really torn about this too. While I'd love to see another great Indy Jones movie, I also think of Indy as an 80's icon and a new movie would destroy the nostalgia somewhat. Just as the new Star Wars flicks have somehow jolted the old Star Wars flicks off their nostalgic pedestal. That said, I thoroughly enjoyed all of the prequels and may well love the shit out of a new indy jones flick, if it works well. But I think if I had a preference it would be for no more indy movies to be made. I don't really see a need. Its already been done and done well. Don't fuck with it.
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...make sure you fuck it right. Fuck the shit out of it. I have faith that Ford, Spielberg and Lucas can pull it off. But I also thing its possible to make a complete balls of it. However, once that Indy theme from Williams kicks in, you all know you are going to be shitting your pants just as you did in 99 when The Phantom Menace's STAR WARS logo shot into the distance to the sound of Williams' fanfare. But then some of you became cynical fucks and bitched about anything and everything becuase you didn't get what lucas was doing. It sure would suck to have waited so long for the Star Wars flicks only to then feel raped by them. Hard luck.
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...over this Indy4 thing.
One of 3 scenarios will come to pass. And 2 of 'em will please me.
Either it will be great, and I will be pleased by this. Or it will suck complete ass, and I will not be pleased. Or they will not make another Indy flick, and I will be pleased by this.
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I'm telling ya, Matthew Fox will make a great Indy, ala the James Bond franchise. Make the fourth, and pass the fedora, Harrison -- Matt's the right man for the job. ;-)
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Aug 18, 2005 7:28:41 AM CDT
Lets hope we dont see Nazis stupidly crashing into tunnels, rat
by spacesheik
make it serious, action-driven, ferocious, dark, ante up the occult/mystical stuff that made RAIDERS such a pleasure
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... and at the level of decrepitude he looks now, just get Bea Arthur to play the love interest!
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Spielberg said that after filming Schindler's List, he'd never be able to use Nazis as comical badguys in an Indiana Jones film. That was a long time ago, so I dunno if he's changed his mind. The Nazi occult thing has been done to death -- let the Russians have a go! Indy 4 is set in the late 1940s/early 1950s. Well, whatever they do, I hope it's a success, and the fedora is passed to Matthew Fox. I'm not gonna shut up about that either.
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When she had sassy attitude in Club Obi Wan. I especially love the line, "I thought archaeologists pined for the mummy", and Indy corrects her, "mummies". But then Spielberg had to make her scream and squeal and whine and nag. It's not Kate's fault, blame Spielberg. Even he's admitted he made her character pretty irritating. Let her have a cameo in Indy 4, and maybe Spielberg can redeem her character.
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because even if they try not to make it a parody (which they won't), it will still be laughable.
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Aug 18, 2005 8:13:19 AM CDT
If they wait any longer, this film should be titled INDIANA JONE
by spyguy
As much as I love the Indy movies (yeah, even TEMPLE O' DOOM), I have a hard time envisioning a 4th film actually working, unless Indy is in his sixties and the setting is around the year 1969-1970. The earliest I could see would be the Kennedy assassination era in 1963, but unless they plan to CGI all the wrinkled crevasses out of Indy's face (and Marion's and Willie's), I think a '50s setting is a bad, bad idea. Although, maybe this film will explain how Indy loses his eye (as shown in the YOUNG INDY series). Or was that already explained?
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So whatever we say here ain't gonna change a thing. The story's done, Nathanson's written a first draft script, Spielberg's lined up to direct, Lucas will produce, Harrison is all for it ... the only thing that can stop this movie is HARRY KNOWLES. If they don't pass the fedora to Matthew Fox for Indy 5, I sincerely hope Harry gets his groove back.
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Aug 18, 2005 8:39:39 AM CDT
Why do they turn these films into fucking soaps?Calista Flockhar
by the true priapic
Why cant we have a story about an adventure featuring Indiana?Fuck all the reunions(although karen Allen was and still is awesome in Raiders).Indy being old isn't too much of a problem as this has GOT to be the last so maybe they'll deal with his age legitimately(oh,who am I kidding.You KNOW 'I'm getting too old for this' is gonna be in the script).Honestly,if Capshaw is in it,its probably cos she Mrs.Sp,and if its missus time maybe Calista is in it.Arguably the most sexfree area in history.Personally,I hope theres a decent story.I think we all know this will be awful and a stain.I'd honestly rather they left it alone.It's for the bucks.They know its a 100 % guaranteed to make a mint.Script,story won't be priority.I betcha the title will kick off an almighty talkback bitch fight.Notably Fords joke about the Merman Prince was virtually accepted by most as we'd believe any old shit after Attack of the Clones!!Let it go........
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Aug 18, 2005 8:40:05 AM CDT
On successors, old co-stars and Harrison's advanced age synd
by cherub rock
Please...neither Matthew Fox nor Nathan Fillion (hmm, interesting suggestion) or anyone should be donning the fedora as a successor before the end credits roll. There is only one Indy... I think Weshtery's right about the age thing too. There's all sorts of interesting dynamics that could emerge, just gotta keep fingers crossed that Nathanson's script is top-notch (as that's been the only thing that's ever been wrong with any of Lucas's and Spielberg's recent projects in my opinion). FrankDrebin, Jeff Nathanson's script is definitely a green light. Yeah, I was beginning to doubt whether they were going to get around to making it at all and make good on their endless promises to the media, but Lucas has never been happy with the script (he's churned through around 4, plus 2 complete rewrites). But they're all happy this time (Lucas was always the dissenter before, and the story idea is by Lucas).
I'm wondering why they're bringing back all the old characters, though. Sean Connery? Isn't he dead? And the first two female co-stars (hopefully no Calista)? Smacks of more self-reference and reliving of past glory, always a problem with sequels...
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The good thing about this one: unlike the Star Wars prequels (which never really had a hope) it has a real chance of toppling one of the originals. If everything's just so, then it could be great..
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Enough of these "the planets might just be aligned" rumors! Either make this damned movie so the "It SUCK, It ROCKS" wars can happen and be done with, OR ADMIT IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN!!!! Or is the whole piont to keep the studio from making a shitty attempt on their own without the people who made it a classic? Are Lucas, Spielberg, and Ford just trying to string Paramount along with promises of a fourth movie so they won't make their own Aliens Vs Predator style crapfest with the latest Hollywood hacks? Much as I might admire the effort, it's a waste of energy. Look, there WILL be crappy sequels to Indiana Jones. It's inevitable. EVERYTHING THAT IS GOOD HAS CRAPPY SEQUELS!!!! Psycho had sequels! Even Lawrence of Arabia has a sequel! I'm sure if you dig hard enough, someone somewhere made a sequel to Citizen Kane. Probably CK2 or "Rosebud Returns" or "Kane: The Missing Years," a Lifetime Miniseries focusing on Kane's childhood and reckless youth and how he fell in love the first time. Crap sequels are just a fact of life. Jaws doesn't suck becaues I know some inferior fool made sequels! I just ignore them! And I want an end to the constant "they might be making more Indiana Jones again" rumors!!!! The sooner they make it the sooner we can all put it behind us!
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Aug 18, 2005 9:14:34 AM CDT
Look what happened to the Alien series when they introduced the
by cookylamoo
Uhhhh, What? It was no worse than 3.
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Aug 18, 2005 9:36:03 AM CDT
LAST CRUSADE was a parody, a toned down version of RAIDERS (i.e.
by spacesheik
not much of a bang for your buck there -- especially following the lacklustre action scenes that bordered on parody (Indy driving a motorbike a la IVANHOE and spiking a Nazi off a motorbike, Indy shooting three Nazis with one bullit etc etc etc) - can you even remember the villain?? Or the Indy girl??! Only good thing about that film was the opening sequence with River Phoenix.
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That's the sweet tragedy of his life, pursuing fortune and glory. What would be cool is Indy would meet the illegitimate son he had with Marion. The grown-up kid convinces Indy to go off on an adventure with him. Indy agrees. Then, in the course of things, he discovers that the kid is actually a bad guy posing as Indy's son. They get to Atlantis (or whatever) and find Indy's real son imprisoned there. Then there'd be a truck chase of some sort. But in the end, he's gotta be God's Loney Man. Otherwise it's just cheese.
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What's endearing about Indiana Jones is the workmanlike weariness with which he faces his adventures. At heart, the guy is an academic. He loves discovering ancient treasures. However, in order to get them, he's gotta strap on his hat and his whip and go GET them. The charm is how you can see, before each great leap, each fight, each obstacle, Ford conveys that feeling of "Aw shit, not this again..." You can tell he'd really rather be back at the University with a cold beer and some ancient tome (and a blonde waiting in bed). SO, having said that, the idea of an older, retired Indiana Jones going off on another adventure because he can't resist the lure of a new discovery would actually be very enjoyable. That "I'm too old for this shit." cliche' would be rejuvenated in this case. If someone comes in and says "Indy, how'd you like to be remembered as the guy who found Atlantis." (or Noah's Ark, or the One True Cross, or whatever) OF COURSE Indy's going to go for it. HE's going to fucking hate every minute of it, but, professional that he is, he'll do it. That's why this movie will work. And as for keeping it a Trilogy, Raiders was based on movie serials of the 30'2, 40'2, and 50's. It's a series, like James Bond, not a trilogy. Sorry to go on. I do love these films so. I just hope they use no CG and keep a realistic look to the film.
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Calista's probably a wonderful human being, and she did fine in Nathanson's "Last Shot," but Ally McBeal has no place in Indy 4.
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She played the skeleton after the Nazi's face had melted away.
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spielberg, lucas and ford won't hack this up - this is probably the last time they'll all be working together - what do they have to prove. Spielberg's direction has grown more serious and dark, which, while i don't dig 'minority' or 'ai', will be a great fit for an old glove like this. as for CGI - War of the Worlds brought the fucking house down - no worries there. this shit is a last hurrah for dr. jones - the script took years - you think it's really just a reunion soap? right. ford's too high and comfy for to come back for that nonsense.
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I thought she played Forrestal?
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And yeah Marion Ravenwood is the best Indy chick by far.
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Marion Ravenwood, man, she was so damn sexy. I will be psyched if Karen Allen comes back. She was really the perfect chick for Indy.
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didnt Ford recently give an interveiw where he said he has finally snapped out of the phase hes been in for the last few years? If that whole midlife crisis on infinite Fords IS over then maybe he'll be more dignified in this movie than his last ones. And maybe that means Flockhart wont be nosing around anywhere on set.
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Karen Allen is still hot. There is no choice between Karen and Flockhart.
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Aug 18, 2005 12:13:15 PM CDT
If there is a Willie... have her stay behind with child.
by stlfilmwire
Don't have her tagging along. And no, we do not to see any moments of "girl power"... let's keep the times the way they were... where women were beautiful, wise, and quiet. No we don't need Willie SCREAMING constantly like in TOD. But a short round cameo would be nice... especially if Indy adopted him and he's the same actor.
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I disagree. It won't be 'I'm getting too old for this'...it'll be a poignant 'I'm too old for this'. Bet on it. Heh.
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Aug 18, 2005 12:51:28 PM CDT
I love how ppl say Last Crusade was "too funny" as if Raiders wa
by chickychow
Please, these movies are inspired, as we all know, by the serials of their youth. Last Crusade represented those the best, a new setpiece every 15 minutes, cliffhanger after cliffhanger, outlandish stunts, et al. It is FAAAR better than Temple of Doom, and life just isn't fair if Willie makes a return appearance, the annoying biatch. Frankly, at this point I'm content for this movie to just DIE. Forget it already. They'll be postponing it for another fuckin 10 years. "Yeah, Indy 4 is a go RIIIIGHT after War of the Worlds 2."
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Harrison Ford is 64? Oh wait, maybe it IS the years.
Ford seems way too old to saddle up again. And yet, Clint Eastwood (who's 75) could easily make another Dirty Harry movie. That would make my day.
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Aug 18, 2005 1:44:56 PM CDT
Crusade wasn't terrible. It was solidly good, but not anywh
by uncooked_meat
... put another way - if Raiders and Temple didn't exist, we'd all think Crusade was magnificent. But that aside... I'm absolutely terrified of this movie and it's potential for suckitude. Of course, it has potential for greatness, too, but... the suckitude factor... scares me.
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They better bring freakin' Sallah back. That's all I'm sayin'.
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Aug 18, 2005 2:24:40 PM CDT
Capshaw sucks. Can she just retire and never act again, please?
by kdoc13
I am serious. What a waste of space she was in the temple of Doom. She killed that movie for me. I could take short round, I could take the fact that no Nazi's were there to get their asses handed to them. But her voice was annoying enough. I want to shoot the bitch every time I see that scene where the lifeboat is falling out of the plane and she is screaming. Indy should have shot her. By far the weakest of his women, and totally deserving of never being cast in a major role again.
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...for a fourth Indy film, but I'm willing to be convinced. If they were to kill him off in this one and have it mean something, that might be worthwhile. otherwise Last Crusade was a very fitting ending to an excellent trilogy (generally speaking, quadrologies are teh suck).
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Aug 18, 2005 3:14:04 PM CDT
TEMPLE OF DOOM was a bolder, better sequel than LAST CRUSADE
by spacesheik
A great fucking opening, a great villain, dark story, action-packed, vicious - sure it had bad scenes like Indy falling out of the plane in a raft and hitting the mountain and that racist dinner sequence, not helped by an irritating leading lady, but it was *miles* better than LAST CRUSADE which was a carbon copy, pale imitation of RAIDERS with unexciting setpieces that belonged more in BOND such as the Venice boat chase, rat infested sewers burning up, etc etc --- terrible film, especially when you throw in the father-son theatrics ("Junior!")And it was pretty fucking anticimactic for a Indy Jones flick. CRUSADE was lazy Spielberg filmmaking, devoid of gritty, exciting action or the occult elements that made RAIDERS and TEMPLE entertaining. Who gives a flying shit about a 500 year old Templar sitting in a basement?
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Everyone is pretty old, so unless the title is Indiana Jones On Golden Pond, they need to pass the torch to some young intern type archaelogist who can be groomed as possible replacements. Harrison Ford could mentor them in the same way he did Short Round.
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Aug 18, 2005 3:20:54 PM CDT
Poopflingerzaius... or, it could be a difference of opinion...
by uncooked_meat
... you arrogant prick. Criticize the movie, not the watcher, dipshit.
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Aug 18, 2005 3:25:19 PM CDT
TEMPLE OF DOOM was a bolder, better sequel than LAST CRUSADE
by spacesheik
A great fucking opening, a great villain, dark story, action-packed, vicious - sure it had bad scenes like Indy falling out of the plane in a raft and hitting the mountain and that racist dinner sequence, not helped by an irritating leading lady, but it was *miles* better than LAST CRUSADE which was a carbon copy, pale imitation of RAIDERS with unexciting setpieces that belonged more in BOND such as the Venice boat chase, rat infested sewers burning up, etc etc --- terrible film, especially when you throw in the father-son theatrics ("Junior!")And it was pretty fucking anticimactic for a Indy Jones flick. CRUSADE was lazy Spielberg filmmaking, devoid of gritty, exciting action or the occult elements that made RAIDERS and TEMPLE entertaining. Who gives a flying shit about a 500 year old Templar sitting in a basement?
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Aug 18, 2005 3:25:28 PM CDT
Why the fuck does Spielberg have to make a Lincoln movie BEFORE
by forestal
Where's the logic in that? JUST MAKE THE MOVIE ALREADY!
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...was the reference to the Ark of the Covenant (Whats that? THe Ark of the Covenant. Are you sure? Pretty sure), along with the hint of the ark theme in the background...genius. Apart from that Crusade was okay by me, although there was a lack of a strong principal villain and love interest (although I loved that fact that both Henry Joneses had her), but I am the only one to think Temple was the best? Mola Ram cannot be beat in villain stakes. Oh, and Marion Ravenwood was THE perfect Indy woman-feisty, hard-drinking and gorgeous.
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that was the most pathetic attempt at trollbaiting I've ever seen. Get a life.
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Why couldn't they just keep it as a trilogy? Now I can't buy the box set! Calista Flockhart, why not just put Anna Nicole Smith in there? She likes older men.
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"DR. JONES! We meet again! No time fo'love,unfortunatly. When last we meet, you left me in Taiwan sweatshop,aged 9!Off on another KRAZY-GOONIE-ADVENTURE! You evah think 'bout me? You evah think 'bout my brother you make drink you Poison in CLUB-OBI-WAN?
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Aug 18, 2005 4:40:04 PM CDT
R.C.'s exclusive: My cousin works for Paramount and I can c
by r.c. the "wise"
As far as the script, my cousin had to sign many, many papers of nondisclosure agreements. All he would devulge is that during his journeys (set in the late 40's {Stalin Era})Indy will be accompanied with his long-time friend Sala, and his newly discovered son(unknown to him until the first act of the film). The studio is already in discussion with several actors to play his 20ish son including: Ryan Gosling, Josh Hartnett, Lucas Black, Hayden Christiansan, Benjamin McKenzie, and sadly, Colin Hanks. Here's hoping the pick a no name who looks just like a young Harrison Ford.
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His son should be about 13, maybe 14. With the right actor we could see a lot more films. Maybe Sallah could mentor him, since it seems likely that Indy would have the same distance from his son as he did with his Dad.
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Steve-o should make Indiana Jones and the Nifty Amish Beard of Lincoln. It'd be wicked! And then at the end the bad guy will die and Lincoln (played by Vanilla Ice) will say "He chose...poorly." I smell an Oscar...
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It should be a daughter.... hopefully she will have just graduated from her archaeology degree so everyone can call her Dr jones, setting up plenty of comedy confusion between Dad and Jnr.....She would have to be extremely fit, so she could play on her looks to benefit her in sticky situations ( Evan Rachel Wood ? ) thus giving Dad the chance to keep on reprimanding her with his witty one liners, he would also refer to her as Junior so the classic " don't call me junior " could be resurrected.......better than one of the fuckwits listed above as a son........
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Well let's see. Lucas will be the producer. Isn't this the guy who made the last 3 Star Warz movies? With CGI he shouldn't have no problem making Harrison look 30ish with no problem. A copy of Photoshop and a crew of 1000 shouldn't have a problem with that.
Then there's Steven ( I can't come with a decent ending in any of my movies in the last 15 years ) Spielberg. How old is Marion now? No problem. Photoshop! -
Because you gotta love that little caricature:....."Feel like fortune cookie Docta Jones!" "Hey Lady! You call him Docta Jones!" "I keep telling you, you listen to me more, you live longer!" "He no nuts, he crazy!" "Hey, Docta Jones, no time for love!" "I'm very little! You cheat very big!" "Wow, holy smoke, crash landing." "I step where you step. I touch nothing." "Very funny! Very funny!" "Indy, I love you!" And I love you too Short Round.
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You forgot: "Okee dokee, Dr. Jones. Hold onto your potatos."
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Hayden is studying architecture in Canada and does not want to see Hollywood ever again. In his words, he found Hollywood "boring". As for Josh Hartnett -- fucking hell, did you see Hollywood Homicide??? Harrison treated Hartnett like dogshit during the making of that film. I don't think Hartnett would want to work with Ford ever again. Any actor wanting to take over the role should not try to be Indiana Jones -- they should try to be Harrison Ford. Otherwise, it won't work. I reckon Matthew Fox can do it. ;-)
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All you fruity geekboys would be lucky to get a chick half as sexy as her. I would love to see her in some skimpy jungle garb all sweaty with tousled hair running for her life. MMMMMM! As for Capshaw, I thought she was awesome in 'Temple' and would like to see her in the new movie too. Allen could sit this one out as far as I'm concerned. Cool character but the actress is just too butch.
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Uh ... that's all I have.
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Goddamn it. It sucks he's not alive, he was awesome in Crusade and he'd fill in Indy's shoes the absolute best.
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Aug 18, 2005 9:56:07 PM CDT
They stall any longer and Indy will be raiding his OWN tomb
by kongmonkey
Flockhardt's a twig with a dress, just like Paris(tramp)Hilton.
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So god damn annoying
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Aug 18, 2005 10:31:36 PM CDT
You know what would be funny? If someone made a joke about Harri
by i dunno
Because I don't know if anyone knew this, but Harrison Ford is getting up there. It'd be hi-larious if someone in a TB took that and ran with it. I really think that would be cutting edge and original, especially if they made a parody of the title to reflect his advancing years. No, really, there's literally nothing else that COULD POSSIBLY BE AS FUCKING CLEVER AS THAT!!!!!1111ONEONEONE!
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Looks like Kate really enjoyed the train sequence with Dennis in Dreamscape. Too bad the DVD doesn't have the complete sequence.
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The R2 version is intact. Region-free is the only way to fly.
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Yes and no. He's one of those frustrating actors who can go from brilliant (Savior & Wyatt Earp) to horrendous (InnerSpace & Dragonheart). Quaid is absolutely DREADFUL in Dreamscape. Horrid, horrid performance.
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Bets on that (altered) line cropping up?
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She's skinny enough for the part.
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Now let me get this straight. Shaun Connery can keep making action movies into his 70's but Harrison Ford is too old? Example on Connery is Entrapment, The Rock, Last Crusade...Were they not in the same damn last Indy movie together? Did I miss that meeting? Ford would of course would not be swingin' from trees ala' 1981 Indy but he is far from DOA. Harrison Ford can still point his finger. Now that's acting! Nobody has that finger pointing down. Thou I hated 70% Crusade due to a weak script, I still would see this new one. I do believe they have some making up to do. Ford in the 1950's setting as a grizzled, burnt out, drinks a beer and cheats on his wife Indy I think can hold my attention. Plenty of history in the 1950's. The Cold War, Korean War, Nuke testing etc. Commie witch hunters could be the new Nazi's this time or go back to South America where half the real Nazies moved to!! Who the hell knows? It might just be the years and not the mileage!
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Aug 19, 2005 11:46:10 AM CDT
INDIANA JONES AND THE DEPENDS UNDERGARMENTS OF DOOM...
by maguasynfield
Got to win the award as the coldest old age blast in this TB. No prize involved, but shit, man, that was COLD. Sallah had bloody well better be in this one, although I'm not sure how Gimli's health is these days ( I hope like hell John Rys Davies is okay - love the guy). And its got to be Marion. Or almost Marion, and he really does lose her, but good. No happy endings. And where's the love for Josh from the 1st Indy? "Show a little backbone, will ya?"
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Some &^%$@! in my office suggested David Duchcovny replace Harrison Ford. Not to worry - they won't be able to identify him with dental records.
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That was the worst of the trilogy with incredibly racist overtones, shock value for its own sake, an annoying heroine and sidekick, and just plain disturbing. Though Raiders is a classic, if you watch the movies back to back, you can see how the trilogy improved. By Last Crusade, the quality of the acting, writing, dialogue and production values had gone way up. The father/son dynamic was interesting and entertaining, the heroine was ambiguous (though I do admit, no one can touch Marion). The Holy Grail sequence was cool - "He chose poorly." What's not to like? I don't get the slapstick comments - I thought the sense of humor was pretty consistent throughout the trilogy. Last Crusade was definitely worthy.
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And Last Crusade was definitly sillier than the other two. Just look at the exaggerated faces Indy makes when he falls down the secret stairs that come down just as an example. Sallah is a bumbling idiot, Marcus seems drunk off his ass. And the FX were a definite step backward. i liked it but it was the weaker of the 3.
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Picky I know but if you've ever met a guy named Marion or a woman named Marian they absolutely HATE it when you use the wrong spelling.
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I am dying to see this movie. But I also think I will be dead by the time this film actually comes out. What could any of these three have to do that is more important than INDY 4? JUST MAKE THE FUCKING MOVIE ASAP.
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Aug 19, 2005 11:06:08 PM CDT
Age means nothing. H.Ford is Indy/ They should have the Stones d
by darth voodoo
Age means nothing. I don't care how old Harrison Ford is HE IS INDIANA JONES. The man is more than 30 years older than I am and he gives me hope for when I reach that age. A 75 year old Sean Connery brings more screen presence to a film than any 25 year old lightweight on the scence today. I still say Sean Connery at 75 could kick Tom Cruise's crazy ass up and down the street. Another reminder that age no longer means anything is that the mighty Rolling Stones open their all ready sold out 2005 world tour up in Boston Sunday night. The average age has to be close to 65. Hat's off to them as well. There will never be another Rolling Stones and their will never be another Indiana Jones. Let's enjoy these legends while we still have them. As a matter of fact bring back Shatner and Nimoy for ST11. Age means nothing if the public still wants to see their hero's.
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And this isn't James Bond, Harrison Ford IS Indiana Jones, no recasting no passing the fedora, let's not turn the series into some static parody of itself, if you can't grow the series with Harrison then its just not worth doing.
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I can grow stubble too, does that make me Indy? No. Also the return of Shorty would rule, but I'd rather see a sequel to The Goonies. I bet ya anything, that wouldn't be as dissapointing as Indy 4.
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Aug 20, 2005 6:22:08 PM CDT
They should get Shortround, but instead of the same guy, they sh
by scrumdiddly
JACKIE CHAN!!! Oh god that would be awesome... uh, sorry.
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Aug 20, 2005 6:23:49 PM CDT
Seriously though, get this done before it festers beyond all rec
by scrumdiddly
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One film has stereotypical German and French villains, the other has stereotypical Indian and Chinese villains. What's the difference?
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Thanks for reminding me Shermdawg, I'd almost forgotten to post my daily MATTHEW FOX WILL MAKE A GREAT INDIANA JONES rant. Funny you mentiond the Goonies, I hear the guy who played Chunk is in talks to play Indy's son in the new Indy film.
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What, your villains all have to be white males or your movie's racist? I hardly see what's stereotypical about any of the villains in either movies.
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or else!
and not lucas' awful "saucers from mars script"
I remember reading an indy script called "Indiana Jones and The Red Scare" which was set in the 40/50s and had indy (retired) living on campus, nursing his dying father- also had a wedding scene with quite an amusing contrast between indys side and his wifes side (indy only having a few ragtag ppl -marion,willie,shorty etc) Then his wife disappears and he gives chase and gets attacked by pirates working for communists or something.....havent been able to find it since. anyone read it?
Ive read lucas talking about a younger character in the film as well, to kinda be indys "student". I really hope that's not true : / But f**k it, theyre making another INDY film with ford,lucas,speilberg and williams!!!!! 2007 is gonna be a summer most likey spent cooked up in the cinema! -
http://www.whoburiedpaulmccartney.com/index2.htm
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I don't think anything serious has been leaked yet about the film. And a student or son of Indy's is the worst idea imaginable. No one wants to see that. Unless it's set even further in the future to the 1980's and it's a young Lara Croft. Mmm...teenage Jolie.
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I was saying that having white foreign villains is no less rascist than having Indian/Chinese foreign villains, yet for some reason Temple of Doom gets all the criticism...Perhaps I didn;t make my point clear. I still stand by the stereotypes bit though. Bellaq and Mola Ram were reasonably fleshed out characters, but the Nazis could have been cut and pasted from the scripts of a dozen WW2 films. And as for the Arab swordsman in the marketplace scene that Indy so memorably shoots...turban: check. Curly sword: check. Facial hair: check. Smug overconfidence: check. What WASN'T stereotypical about that character?
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Aug 21, 2005 8:44:00 PM CDT
Well, they wear turbans, they carry curly swords and they often
by i dunno
Describe your PC version of an Egyptian thug in the 30's. As for the Nazis, they're fucking Nazis. Would you have them wearing feather boas and being sarcastically resistant to authority? I guess Schindler's List and those A&E Documentaries are stereotypical too.
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If Lucas recasts the character of Marcus Brody, then I'll be one pissed off mofo. Denholm was an amazing actor, especially considering that he managed to tolerate what Lucas did to his character in the Last Crusade. I actually started a script shortly after Denholm's death, which started with Indy and Henry Snr at the opening of a new wing of the museum named after Marcus Brody, who died not too long ago. And one of the prize artifacts to be housd in this new wing was missing ...
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...isn't Harrison Ford getting a little old?
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Maybe some thugs didn't wear turbans. Maybe some thugs used guns or straight swords. Maybe they didn't look like every Arab swordsman in every middle east film ever made. Maybe some German soldiers were not stuck-up inpatient sleazebags, and were just following orders. Your comparison with Schindlers List is bullshit because that had good AND bad German characters. ROTLA has 2D cardboard cut-outs as the soldiers; thats fine for supporting characters, which is all they are in the film, but if they're rude, rascist and German, then it's a cliche and therefore by definition a stereotype! Maybe it's accurate, maybe it's not, but it IS a stereotype. And besides, the film is too tongue-in-cheek to cause offence to anyone. I grew up with both films, and the reason I started this whole debate between us was because I can't understand why people sensitive enough to be offended by 2D villains in Temple are not offended by the same thing in Raiders. Read my original post above, you'll see what I mean.
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Yeah, could've been fan-made....-wish I could remember where I saw it on the net....it was a synopsis of a script/treatment rather than a fully fledged thing. The thing is, a lot of the unused scripts (garden of life, saucers from mars) have some scenes that survive the writing process and make it into the final films. (e.g the "garden of life" had indy brought back from the dead by eating a peach from the mysterious garden - holy grail scene with connery in the temple)... so I'm not gonna be too surprised if indy gets married and ditched in this one.... + it would explain the "cameo" appearances of marion , willie etc..... eh, who knows? If indy's your thing, there are some good sites around, theraider.net is probably the pick of em.....
Indy isnt james bond, he doesnt have to be ageless, I think a new film could explore an older indys regrets, experiences etc and add a underlying depth to the whole thing......and it'd be good to see ford in a decent movie for a change!!!! then again, it could be a cinematic abortion like T3! : / -
Aug 22, 2005 1:30:30 PM CDT
Ok after this can we start talking about a Big Trouble in Little
by rj macready
Ok first the age thing, it won't be an issue. All they need to do is get someone even older to be in the movie thus making indy look younger, just like they did with the hobbits height in LOTR. Second, i'm kinda thinkin it will be a reunion flick, probably with Willy, Marion, Short-round, Sallah, and Doctor Jones Sr all showing up briefly at some sort of ceramony in honour of Indy's contributions to the museum over the years. Then we'll get someone showing up saying "Doctor Jones how'd you like to go down in history as the person who found ......(insert missing artifact)? What do you say Doctor Jones, are you up for one more adventure?" I'm kinda thinkin Marion will blackmail Indy into taking her too. Third there will be some sort of age joke in the movie, weither its Indy not being able to get his whip up or not being as fast as he used to be. All that being said I guess I'll be seeing everyone in the line up opening night.
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The Indiana Jones Trilogy is the perfect example. I'd describe the films respectively as "100%" "80" and
"60%"
But if you want' to shoot for a 40 bring back Karen! And why not Abner Ravenwood, Indy's mysterious mentor?
My god I am drunk.
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