Siggraph: Footage from AMERICAN DOG & A DAY WITH WILBUR ROBINSON and a little something on RAPUNZEL!!!
Hey folks - Harry here, got a couple of reports with some treats from SIGGRAPH and the Disney presentation there that I thought you good folks would love a look see of. Here's Teeth with the story:
I got video from siggraph for American Dog and A Day With Wilbur Robinson, no sound but the floor was so loud you wouldn't of been able to hear it anyway. Looks like really good stuff, really pushing the 2d cartoony animation in 3d. I also got a chance to play with the Chicken Little character rigs, its amazing how far they can push the poses on those characters and still look good.
Ok - To see that video - we got it right here at AICN for ya: 1st Part of A DAY WITH WILBUR ROBINSON Siggraph Work In Progress Footage!
2nd Part of A DAY WITH WILBUR ROBINSON Siggraph Work In Progress Footage!
And the quite nice tiny glimpse at AN AMERICAN DOG!!!
Then there's this report on Glen Keene and what he's up to on RAPUNZEL UNBRAIDED, sorry no video - from the sound of this report... it had to be frickin amazing. Glen is one of those magicians at Disney I was talking about. If given the freedom to experiment and play in this new medium... then the heart and soul and the magical nuance can be there... as long as they're allowed to.
I was a Siggraph05 and saw some Rapunzel Unbraided test footage presented during the Disney Special Session.
The look of the film will be amazing. The style is pure, classic frigging Disney magic. The 3D characters look like… Disney characters… Glen Keene, the creator of Ariel, the Beast and Pocohontas is directing this one and doing the art production. He based the style on this picture.
Fragonard’s “The Swing”
He showed a still of Rapunzel in an environment that looked straight out of this picture, complete with swing and quirky lighting (minus the perv looking up her skirt.) Cool… Nice still.. very pretty. But THEN HE ROTATED THE CAMERA! A fully 3D environment straight out of this picture.
Then he went on to show a short (3-5 second) test clip of the animation… this movie is both BEAUTIFUL and truly, deeply, and recognizably a Disney Feature Length animation in the tradition of Snow White and Cinderella.
I am totally jazzed. The guy next to me was losing his mind over it. If only the title would lose the lame ass “Unbraided” at the end. Disney marketing needs an enema. Glen Keene is a genius… and I got his autograph.
I guess “Disney Magic” didn’t totally die with them losing the 2D crew afterall. I know I was as worried as you were, Harry.
I also saw some Chicken Little footage. Cute movie, but not like as magic as Rapunzel by far.
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Aug. 8, 2005, 6:14 a.m. CST
Not even gonna say it.
Aug. 8, 2005, 7:22 a.m. CST
by cyanide christ
for not saying it.Dos.
Aug. 8, 2005, 7:27 a.m. CST
I'm sorry... it's my first time doing one of these... Great to hear about Disney magic staying alive even as the last of Disney's 2d animators head to the chopping block. Now raise Howard Ashman from the grave and bring back the Disney Animated Musical!
Aug. 8, 2005, 8:03 a.m. CST
...but it was still the worst idea in Disney history to close the 2d animation studios for feature films (2nd worst idea: The 65 episode limit, which oficially doesn't exists...).
Aug. 8, 2005, 9:09 a.m. CST
Keane is great, no doubt about it. My money rides on American Dog though. Sanders has got some great stuff up his sleeve for this one.
Aug. 8, 2005, 9:43 a.m. CST
but is it possible that these films will prove that there is life in disney post-pixar? i guess we'll have to wait n see, but as long as the marketing people leave well alone then they have a chance.
Aug. 8, 2005, 9:57 a.m. CST
it seems very hokey. Modern day teens brought into a fantasy world? Ugh. Why couldn't they just tell the original story, throw in some singing mice or whatever, and be done with it?
Aug. 8, 2005, 10:22 a.m. CST
by Gheorghe Zamfir
Indicates that Disney just isn't gutsy enough to do a full on fairy tale after Shrek, there was some interview a while back where some Disney honcho was actually bragging (apparently he thought this was ground breaking stuff) that it'll be the first Disney film with a princess who's a full on comedic character, which is eh to me, and yea, the stuff about sending modern day teenagers back in time or whatever sounds terrible as well. Its too bad cause all the artwork on the movie to this point looks gorgeous, just no one has the balls to do anything like Snow White or Beauty and the Beast with something as timely and costly as these CGI pics, gotta bank on formula, and with Chicken Little and Rapunzel sounds like Disney has decided Shrek is their formula, just grab a fairy tale and convert it to comedy by skewing it with a modern twist. But I'm probably not the intended audience anyways, I'm sure all the kiddies will love this stuff.
Aug. 8, 2005, 11:08 a.m. CST
This would've really worked had they just done a film version of the Rapunzel tale, you know, like they used to do. Most of Disney's fairy tale versions already had comedic undertones and satirical jabs at pop culture as it is, and it doesn't need to be Shrek like to do it.
Aug. 8, 2005, 11:51 a.m. CST
by THE FAN
You have to notice It looks a ton better than the GERKY, BLURING, POPING, motion of MADAGASCAR. Looks like disney with a small d, might have turned the light on again. Sad they have to copy DREAMWORKS ideas for stories... (make fun of something, make it hip, next year forget about it, because they put music of day as well as popular talk..) stupid idea.. Can you imagine the song Daddy's Little Girl, by the Mills Brothers in CINDERELLA, or Green Tambourine by The Lemon Pipers in the JUNGLE BOOK
Aug. 8, 2005, 12:12 p.m. CST
Could you see the girl on the swing's ladybusiness? 'Cause that's what the guy on the ground in front of her is smiling about, you know. Insert your own filthy, disgusting Rapunzel joke here. Can't wait for Pixar to announce that they're going to start producing 2-D traditional animation, just to piss off the Mouse.
Aug. 8, 2005, 12:40 p.m. CST
Some very cool animation, looks like Disney is fighting for second place in studio 3-D aesthetics. Those human characters in Shrek make me sick to my stomach.
Aug. 8, 2005, 12:50 p.m. CST
by Kentucky Colonel
No, wait a minute, I just frakked the daggit!
Aug. 8, 2005, 12:52 p.m. CST
by Kentucky Colonel
If you are a mother figure in a Disney movie, WATCH THE FUCK OUT!!! Four Words....Star Trek Red Shirt. You have been warned.
Aug. 8, 2005, 1:57 p.m. CST
Rapunzel would be hilarious if they kept the peeping tom. An entire movie of Rococo seems like too much too fast to me, though.
Aug. 8, 2005, 1:59 p.m. CST
It's just fun to say.
Aug. 8, 2005, 2:12 p.m. CST
The follwoing from a Disney animator re: Rapunzel and American Dog - "Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 1:03 pm Post subject: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chris Sanders is a genius. American Dog will be great. That is if Stainton can keep his big clumsy mits off of it. Rapunzel is a big f###ing mess. The producer, these two idiot lady writers and Mr. Satan himself have conspired to make it a huge cluster f#ck. I'd tell you what the story was, but it is so incomprehensible that I would spend all day writing and you would all get headaches and you still wouldn't know what it is about. Poor Glen is basically having to do thier dirty work. Who wants to bet that when the movie comes out and it fails miserabley that they blame the whole thing on Glen?" Was on the Jim Hill board. I second that emotion.
Aug. 8, 2005, 3:40 p.m. CST
The Disney studio lost all credibility the minute they began letting idiots who can't draw a stick figure, much less animate, make the "creative" decisions instead of the animators. Pixar is where it's at.
Aug. 8, 2005, 8:29 p.m. CST
by Darth Philbin
tron. end of line, douchebags.
Aug. 8, 2005, 10:39 p.m. CST
The Sword in the Stone.
Aug. 8, 2005, 10:41 p.m. CST
THe Dudley Dooright reject isn't in the book at all. When do we get to see Carl the robot or Uncle Judlow or the jazz playing frog band?
Aug. 8, 2005, 10:43 p.m. CST
Sweet sweet Tina Fey.
Aug. 8, 2005, 11:15 p.m. CST
That "dog" thing looks like a cartoon turd with feet...ugly. And the wilbur robinson looks like a cheap version of Jimmy Neutron! WHAT is DISNEY DOING? Jeez.....
Aug. 10, 2005, 12:39 a.m. CST
Even without any guitar rhythm, they have perfected their sound as a band and manage to write... oh wait, what? GLEN Keane? Oh yeah, that dude's okay, I guess. What has he done? A couple of classic animated movies? Eh, whatever. I'm wondering if the plot for this Rapunzel deal doesn't seem too snarky, but the stuff we've been privvy to has looked pretty sweet. Looking forward to 'American Dog' because I'm one of those sycophantic geeks who likes 'Lilo & Stitch.' Just kidding (but not really).
Aug. 10, 2005, 12:41 a.m. CST
'Lilo & Stitch,' check it out. It's a pretty good film.
Sept. 29, 2005, 4:30 p.m. CST
by Anna Valerious
Kristin Chenowith said that Rapunzel is a squirrel...and the plot is about two kids from modern times thrown into a fairy tale world where the witch from the story wants to ruin the happy ending. Thus, like in "Fables", there has to be a status quo and the real Rapunzel has to be a forest animal while Claire takes her place.
Oct. 8, 2006, 12:30 p.m. CST
but the release of rapunzel has been pushed back 2 years to 2009. They are revamping the whole story. It will be the classic story.
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