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Starting last Friday, the SciFi Channel began televising “Firefly,” the best new show of the 2002-03 season. SciFi will be the first outlet to televise all 15 hours of the much-beloved sci-fi action comedy-drama. (Fox only aired 12 of those hours.)
Starting this Thursday, Logo (the exciting new homosexual channel) began televising “Wonderfalls,” the best new show of the 2003-04 season. Logo will be the first outlet to televise all 13 hours of the much-beloved romantic comedy-fantasy. (Fox only aired four of those hours.) If you missed it, Logo airs the "Wonderfalls" pilot twice more this weekend.
Starting tonight (Friday), CBS (sister to the exciting new homosexual channel) begins televising “Veronica Mars,” perhaps the best new show of 2004-05 season not called “Battlestar Galactica.” CBS will not be the first to televise all 22 hours of the much-beloved crime comedy-drama. (UPN already aired all 22 hours, and was good enough to renew the show for a second season. Unlike some netlets I could think of.)
CBS will air four “Veronica” episodes. Both the show’s amazing pilot and “Echolls Family Christmas” airs July 29. “Clash of the Tritons” airs Aug. 5. “Russkie Business,” which introduced the Alyson Hannigan character, actress Trina Echolls, airs Aug. 12. This is great news for all who don’t live in an area that UPN services (turns out there’s lots of these), but have grown very curious about the show many are calling “The New Buffy.”
“Firefly” 7 p.m. Friday. SciFi.
“Veronica Mars” 8 p.m. Friday. CBS.
“Wonderfalls” 9 p.m. Saturday. Logo.
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Firefly/VM... great lineup (I don't get LOGO).
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Firefly starts at 6. They will be playing both parts of the pilot
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is one of the best pilots for any series, ever. However, i thought that Triton episode was far from one of the season's best.
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It sounds like a chick show. I just can't work up the enthusiasm to give it a try.
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My thoughts exactly. But sure enough after basically being tied down and forced to watch the pilot by my girlfriend, I was completely hooked.
I subsequently watched the rest of the season in 2 days.
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One of the first few episodes I tuned in for, and almost didn't bother coming back after that one. Especially when it breaks into Veronica's karaoke scene, complete with the kaa-razzy camera angles and the cheering crowd. Must not have been too terrible though since I did come back for more. Sadly I don't get Logo, well, not too sadly, looking at their programming schedule it doesn't look like I missing out on much, or anything really.
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http://www.petitiononline.com/bbcarniv/petition.html Got on the other thread too late. Sign it, and bring back Carnivale! Nice to see Firefly back on the tube.
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Herc, your colors are showing.
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Fox (the channel, not Fox News.) sucks. Wonderfalls and Firefly are 2 great series. I would rather see firefly in a higher-budget big screen form though. Give me a trilogy please!!!
Wonderfalls got kind of ehh towards the end. But it was still better than most stuff on tv.
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I mean really, how narrow does a channel need to be? I'm waiting for the all toothpick network , followed by the stalker channel, and then the ex-con channel. Luckily I can block out all this crap.
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Jul 29, 2005 6:46:16 AM CDT
Please give Veronica Mars a chance, you may be pleasantly surprs
by mr. profit
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"Wax Lion" (Wonderfalls' pilot) ran LAST night (Thursday) at 9
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if I don't get into a show from the beginning, I usually have trouble picking it up. The only reason why I've been able to jump in and out of the soprano's is because I saw most of the first season when they aired them uncut on basic cable here in canada. I got into Buffy from the pilot, and my mom and sister eventually caught on later ironically enough. The pilot airs tonight? Maybe I'll tape it.
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to air all episodes of Wonderfalls & Firefly. Space has been airing Firefly in intended order for about 2 years now, and Vision TV began showing all episodes of Wonderfalls last September. But on the downside, CTV preempted Veronica Mars last night to air that new lawyer show. So I turned it off and watched Soap on dvd.
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You know I had to do it...GFY
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And its on Saturday at 6PM EST not 9PM , at least in NY..
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I'm kind of looking forward to Veronica Mars. We're one of those areas with no UPN outlet. Its hard to tell how good it will be because the hype's not very substantial. What's so good about it? The characters? The writing? The originality? I've been recommending it to friends who like "good" TV (Wonderfalls, Six Feet Under, Dead Like Me, etc.) Will it be sophisticated enough for their (and my) tastes?
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we're bobbing along in our barrel, something something right over the earth, but there's one thing that has... something something.. to a something wonder wonder wonder falls with everything I touch and hear annnnd see
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And for an encore, lead us all in a rousing rendition of the Firefly theme song. A-one and a-two and...
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He seems much gayer than Jaye's sister on "Wonderfalls."
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CTV is now airing Veronica Mars on Sundays at 5pm. I had taped it last night and was rightly pissed to find David E. Kelley selling his sole instead. Damn CTV buying every show and then giving them the shaft, it makes no sense.
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In the last couple years they killed...1) Andy Richter Controls the Universe; 2) Tick - Live Action Version; 3) Greg The Bunny (which created the single greatest muppet/puppet to grace the airwaves since the Swedish Chef: 'Count Blah'). Throw in past cancellations like PROFIT, ACTION, and GET A LIFE and it's a sad case of...well, not knowing what they've got, I guess. Still, the single greatest cancellation blunder of all time was UPN's early dismissal of NOWHERE MAN, which to this day remains the greatest single show the channel ever aired.
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. . . are so funny - funny like a clown! A Gay TV Network! What do they show, besides 'Will and Grace" reruns?
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in the second episode of Wonderfalls they have the Veronica mars theme song. I would like to make out with Jaye Tyler BTW
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But is he a lawyer? Didn't think so.
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that kind of pisses me off, the extras are all lame. I like commentaries. Like in the first episode of Wonderfalls where before Jaye says I love you she is all pale face and then say they re shot the last part of the scene halfway through summer or something so then she is much tanner, I like seeing funny stuff like that.
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I had read somewhere that she is signed to a new Fall TV show. Don't remember the name of the show or network. But since it probably won't make it past Mid October . . . Veronica Mars = Hot Blonde chick with brains . . . Sounds like Chloe from Smallville (Who I would pledge my undying eternal love for, if she would only answer my phone calls, emails, telegrams, notes, etc) And what, exactly, constitutes being a Stalker, anyways? Kristen Bell is the NEW HOT young TV TILF!!
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I think if veronica mars has a third season it will be a solid show. The first two seasons of Buffy survived because it was on a new network and Buffy was really hot, the show itself didn't get good until season 3. In the Totem Mole episode in wonderfalls I was really starting to think because it appeared there may be something deeper and darker to the voices she was hearing or at very least the voices had much more purpose than her dating some dood who's ass rings. Then they had to bland it all up and end it with the relationship thing. If I had my own network it would be firefly/wonderfalls/dead like me/ kung fu reruns/a norm macdonald show/movies like ghost world/the tick/anything Bryan fuller does/futurama/maybe some japanese stuff like INitial D too.
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too bad they keep pushing them aside for the Idols and every other new reality show that comes along. Would have been nice if they had advertised the move (take 5 seconds right at 8pm and announce "Veronica Mars moves to Sunday nights", then start the lawyer show). They did the same thing with Empire - they just stopped showing it but never bothered to tell anyone (TV Guide still listed Empire on CTV 3 weeks after CTV stopped airing it).
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I watched the first few episodes on MTV because my sh*tty local cable didn't carry UPN. Then they stopped showing it, and started showing more schlok nobody gives a crap about. If you're not going to show music videos anymore, you could at least show decent TV.
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I'd hit it. I won't watch it, but I'd hit it.
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Sure the news is probably old as dirt, but the trailer for Serenity at the end of tonight's episode really has me jacked up for the movie. Gorham!
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I saw Mars for the first time tonight, very entertaining. But if the brother turns out to be gay or if doesn
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In 'glorious quicktime' at where else? http://www.apple.com/trailers/
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Thank God.
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And I know that a lot of people aren't, but please don't be an ass and flame me for talking about "Firefly" in a "Firefly"-related article. Anyway, new trailer. Not to be confused with the international trailer. ******* http://www.apple.com/trailers/universal/serenity/trailer_2/large.html
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Sorry for stepping on your toes, Slim, bad timing is all.
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For changing the trailer. And thank you all who wrote in to the official site suggesting the changes, especially Bazooms for getting a handle on what specifically should be fixed. I don't know if those involved of all seen it yet, but I'd say the new trailer hits addresses almost EVERYTHING we discussed. Coincidence? Who cares! What matters is somehow, someway a much improved trailer exists.
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I can't BELIEVE how much the new trailer reflects that discussion. I have to check what we talked about again to make a point by point comparison, but the first thing I thought was "Oh my God, someone was taking notes." Either we're all geniuses, or the fixes were all obvious to anybody familiar with the source material, or . . . FUCK! It's like the Twilight Zone. Shit, maybe AICN really does have some effect on decisions in Hollywood, or when you write into those sites you do get listend to or . . . FUCK! My head is spinning. They pulled "From the Creator of," they really did it. Applause all way around. Especially to Joss, because I suspect he had to sign off on that one. FUCK!
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Jul 29, 2005 10:39:45 PM CDT
If I Had To Bet, I'd Say We Were Tilting At Windmills BUT
by mark twain
I gotta admit, my thoughts echoed yours Jeremiah. Uncanny, was the word that came to mind. Although I think it's unlikely that someone at Universal thought, "Drop everything else, fixing that Serenity trailer is priority numero uno! And I want it done next week, do you hear me? Next week or heads will roll!" Still, it is gratifying to know that someone is actively working on the promotion side of this film and not just dumping it into a graveyard slot. That someone else saw what seems obvious to some of us, and did something about it, well, that's something (in my best Jayne voice when addressing the mudders). Anyone know if this new trailer is in the theaters yet? I'd like to see reactions to this one, just can't think of a film that I'm needing to see this weekend.
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If I had to reckon, I'd say it'll make its debut in theaters along with 'The Skeleton Key.' What came out this weekend? 'Stealth,' 'Sky High,' and 'Must Love Dogs?' Eh, maybe it'll be attached to one of the former two. But don't see 'em anyway.
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Not looking good in terms of a natural fit for the trailer. Looks like I'll wait till next week. It looks like they've decided to push the sci-fi angle a little harder, based on the new slogan and home page for the movie. That makes nothing but sense since I suspect the best exposure is going to be those reruns. I remember when Goldmember came out, it seemed like you couldn't turn on cable without seeing either of the Austin Powers films in the weeks leading up to the release in theaters. There was no way you were unaware that the new film was out there. While sci-fi isn't gonna have the reach of TBS or whatever I saw AP on, it would be an odd choice not to piggyback on the exposure. Just wasn't sure that choice was going to be made, the way things were looking.
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I gave the show a chance, like you asked. While I like the overall theme of the mystery over the course of a season, the "Clue club" thing got old in the second epp they aired tonight. Plus, being someone who grew up in Southern California, I can tell you with 100% honesty that the biker guy would have kicked those guys asses every second he had the chance to do so, and never would have ended up playing poker with them. I know its television and I shouldn't take it so seriously, but it seems like the same old stuff repackaged. I may give it another try when a new eppisode airs, but I watched it, and thought it was average at best. Sorry.
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I liked this enough tonight to bitorrent the rest of the season
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I'm inclined to agree. After I sent my email I didn't even get an Auto-Reply "thanks for taking the time to give a shit" much less a hat of a coupon for Mrs. Fileds. So they're not exactly good with the personal touch. As you said though, it looks as if somebody, somewhere is paying attention to marketing, and that's the important thing.
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Or did my local just screw it up
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Just baffles me a bit, since every other show in Sci-Fi's Friday lineup is widescreen, why adapt Firefly, which is shot widescreen anyways, into fullscreen?
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Whatever I guess.
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Its on SCI FI every saturday night at 7 PM EST.
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They did the same thing TBS does on older Law and Order reruns. The Streteched wide look on the HD channels, where the outer part of the image is stretched but the center is normal. Better than nothing. I still can't get into this show though. Tried again last nite.
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Sorry you didn't like it zekmoe, but thanks for trying.
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So does River have a big honker mole on her forehead or not? Some shots point to yes, others, no.
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She has a real small one on one of her eyebrows but thats the only one I have noticed.
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After watching it a second time and now watching the shows again on Sci-Fi (so a third time), I do feel more for the characters and the storyline. I may even change my opinion of Serenity when I see it again. However, I still think Joss Whedon is a fucktard and the Browncoaters deserve to die for trying to force buzz about a show and movie that are, at best, good. If every single one of the goes to see this movie 20 times it may make $100 million. So prove your loyalty.
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First, it's the exception, not the rule that someone admits to changing an opinion about a show. So props, man. I'm not a Browncoat, but always did like the series. Yeah, the Whedonites can get a little much some times, but no more so than the trekkies or any other group. I admire the Browncoats for their efforts, and even did my small part to support changing the Serenity trailer (discussed on a previous talkbalk) becuase I like science fiction in general and want to support it, even if the show may not be my favorite of all time. Galactica is my favorite show now, and it looks to have at least a third season unless something goes terribly wrong. As a fan of that show though, if it was in danger of being cancelled before there was resolution of the story lines, I think I might be beating the drums too and belong to what would become an equally annoying "Save Galactica" group. It's not as bad as it used to be, but sometimes we lovers of sci-fi have to fight a little harder for the shows we love. I'll pretty much sign any fanboy related drive to keep a sci-fi show on the air, because mine could be on the chopping block next and I'd hope for some reciprocation.
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I have been watching the Firefly episodes in dvd order, and while I was ready to sing the show's praises to the high heavens after the stunnigly good (for tv especially) pilot, it has slowed down a might. I dont know if I would be still watching if this were weekly and I had started out on some of these first episodes. ('our mrs reynolds' was the last one I watched) what happened to the lightning bug effect whenever the ship takes off in space? that made the ship cool, and might have eventually been on par with something like the warp into space at the end of next generation episodes. ("Engage.") I dont know I'm in the middle right now, but there have already been some dull and bad episodes, even though the acting by the crew of the Firefly is still top-notch. did Fox cut their money at episode 2 or something?
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I don't know which one you're on, but I think The Train Job was one of the weakest of the bunch (fun ending though) and they aired that right after the pilot. The later ones are all much better, but part of that is due to the character work established in the early episodes. So while not all the early ones by themselves are jump up and down great, they pay off later. At least that's my take on it. There are others who will tell you that every episode is brilliant. That's not my opinion, but I thought it developed chemistry much faster than most first season shows and some of the best episodes in that short run are great television.
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Foreignerbelt, it's too late. The flaws in the show are obvious to you now because you just caught up on seven hours of TV, but you will soon sleep... and when you wake up all you will want is more. It is the crack cocaine of geek television. You can't stop the signal...
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I don't get UPN in my area so I never had a chance to watch this show. It's one of the rare cases where it actually lives up to it's hype. There was one or two clunky moments, but I'll defently be picking up the box set come october.
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Rented the first two disk from netflix a few weeks ago to see what all the fuss was about. I think that the first disk is very weak. They are fun certinally, but i've seen better episodes of stargate. That being said, the second disk got me hooked, I'll be picking up the box at some point, where I can watch it in real widescreen. Wedon still is majorly overated though
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Jul 30, 2005 11:42:16 PM CDT
You Can Love Firefly and Not Like Angel or Alien Resurrection
by diana rules!
It's true, it can happen. I never cared for Angel, Buffy was all right and had some really fun moments, Alien Resurrection ate a pound o' penis. Firefly IS different than those shows though. I don't like everything Spielberg did as a director, but even if I don't like one of his movies I'll give the next one a chance. Whedon is one of those like Sorkin I'll at least look at whatever it is they do next.
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Was the pilot , Fox didn't show the real pilot till way later right before it was cancelled. Firefly ownz , all the episodes were fun IMHO.
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Any show that has quotes like "You won a trophy for a rim job?" and "Everybody Wang Chung or I'll kick your ass!" is worth watching in my opinion.
I'm done with the self-important dreck that Lost has become. I don't think the writers know what's going on anymore - if they ever did.
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Well, I watched it and will watch it again and I can see how it would improve over time. Still, I can't help thinking those bike gang members should be edgier and darker and with Veronica giving everyone shit I'm surprised someone just doesn't bash her brains in. But I do like the fact that she doesn't have much money, and the interaction between father and daughter is pretty good. The pilot was much better than the Christmas eposiode. And I think people who hadn't seen it before were probably a bit irked that there wasn't any continuity. I did like the line, "The butler's son did it." Definitely a notch or two below Buffy, Six Feet Under, etc. but still better than average.
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Snopes, as a first time watcher, I did find it a little odd about the diffrence between the two shows. That being said, sorry, but it is a hell of a lot better then nine out of ten Buffys. And I mean both episodes by that, not just the pilot.
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Sorkin, I hear you, I won't argue, these things are pretty much a matter of personal taste anyway. But I perceive that I cut Buffy more slack because it is clearly based in a universe that is totally different from reality and kind of whack. Whereas with Veronica I'm going in thinking real world and then judging by those standards. No big deal. And like I say, I'll watch again.
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AND Firefly. They all suck, they all rely on quirky, unrealistic dialogue that's about two steps removed from the average episode of Sabrina The Teenage Witch. I'm surprised none of those shows uses a laugh track. I'll stick with Doctor Who and Battlestar Galactica in between episodes of CSI, South Park, Daily Show, and Chapelle (if he ever comes back).
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Ok, I'll be the first to attack Joss shows, but saying they are closely linked to Sabrina is just way to below the belt. Also, both Doctor Who and Battlestar aren't nearly as good of shows as West Wing, or more importantly, 24.
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"Logo will be the first outlet to televise all 13 hours of the much-beloved romantic comedy-fantasy." Wrong. Canada's Vision TV has aired all of 'em -- in order -- several times now. http://www.visiontv.ca/Programs/drama_wonderfalls.html
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