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UPDATED!!!You will have Ghost Rider in your Ghost Rider film don't you' The Trailer Arrives!
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Hey folks, Harry here... Seems the trailer that appeared online for GHOST RIDER - was in fact... not a trailer for GHOST RIDER. I know, it looked like a trailer - but the folks from SONY have assured me that this was meant to just sort of give the Comic Con crowd a 'taste' of the look of the film - and as Mark Steven Johnson said to the crowd - it was not the trailer. Seems and over-anxious vendor put the "comic con teaser" up - distributed it to folks as "THE TEASER TRAILER" and well... you can see the reaction for yourself. I'm told that before the REAL teaser trailer appears in theaters and online - that they will have figured out exactly what they're doing with the GHOST RIDER effects, which right now are purely at the try this, try that stage. The poster is the closest they have, but even that is painterly - and not what the final character will look like. SO - be calm... be cool... they's on this shit - and there's no reason to get all up in their ass... they're working on it. Now.... next time - if we see the full on GHOST RIDER and it looks like ass - that's when we can be the fanboy bitches we all are and call for bodies hanging from the studio gates... either that, or fall down and worship at the altar. After all - this isn't FOX... this is SONY - they've done damn fine by SPIDER-MAN, we can cut em some slack.
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Hey folks, Harry here... MasterWhedon posted this... in a place that can not be mentioned, but exists all the same. In this magical place of gumdrops and singing happy shit - one can post avatars and send private messages, there are paragraphs and word wrap and active html. It is a truly real place and one day, if worthy, you may go and post there too. As for this trailer - I think a full on teaser - no film footage would have actually been more effective... something that focused on use of sound and flames... a badass voice from hell and a single image of Ghost Rider himself. And I get that they haven't finalized the fx yet... but this trailer is pretty limp feeling. Peter Fonda is cool - Nick makes me laugh, but all I could think was... I hope to Mephisto, that that isn't what he sounds like when he's the rider. And then... did Bentley look a bit... like a Lost Boys extra?
Aaaaaand.... bleh.
Check it out here: (Removed By Request of SONY)
(You need Quicktime 7 to view it, which you can get here: Click here for Q7)
How many syllables in "craptacular"? Four? Oh.
It... just... looks... I can't even summon up the energy.
Check out the four- or five-frame flash toward the end of him with the flaming skull. Hopefully, that isn't a finished effect. If it is...
I never really cared for Ghost Rider or Nicholas Cage. Doesn't look like this is going to change my mind.
Hola colas, Doc Falken here to hijack Harry's post. I'm not one to just install beta software to watch a trailer, so here's one of the money shots that we all want to see. Spoiler alert! The dude's head is on fire.
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So I don't have an opinion on it. I guess I'll just agree with whoever the 28th poster is. Yup.
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Yeah, this one looks like it'll make the Craptastic Four look less craptilicious. Not first. Please, god no. If I'm first may, I rot in a craptopian hell. Yeah, I didn't liek it. Can ya tell? Um, plain ol' crap.
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Basically, you have to have a Mac to be able to view it. As far as I know anyway. I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that this TalkBack is going to become about whether or not Macs and the people who use them are superior to PCs and the people who use them and lots of technical yet still subjective reasons why.
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Yeah, CrapApple sucks.. another example...
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So, why should I bother with the internet anymore if i don't get to use it for what I've been using it for, for the last 6 years? People with OSX can watch it just the same. Just a bad marketing idea all around. By the way, the trailer SOUNDS like the movie will be shit.
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You can FIND the pc BETA version of 7 on the apple site if your so inclined to actually search.
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Help Me!!
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http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/preview/
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But the trailer I make up in my mind is probably far superior. The days of Marval are over, all rise to greet the great DC.
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Nichola Cage is not a tough guy. I don't buy it.
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Harry. Nobody wants to post in the Phantom Zone.
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well, i'm no genius and within about a minute of going to quicktime.com, i got quicktime 7 working for my windows xp based computer. you people that complain need to try a little bit harder before you start whining. the trailer isn't that awesome, but its not the worst trailer ever, so we'll see. the variables involved in this project would make one think that the whole thing is doomed, but maybe somebody will get lucky. hope its us.
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But seeing as how The director has already royally fucked DD up I can honestly say this trailer was garbage. No GR except for that test footage they showed on Extra. The effects of the flame head and cycle aren't in this at all just some lame ass fire sticks and mortar cannons with some flippy cars to show the speed of the bike. Wes Bently does his best impersonation of Cillian Murphy in Batman Begins he even says the line,"he's here and looks the same way Murphy did but with white face makeup. Constantine looked better than this garbage. I really don't know why Marvel and Sony/Columbia hired this no talent hack to direct this flick. This was an easy Mikey Bay type flick. The guy has no clue how to frame a shot or how to film a coherent sequence. Oh well, as from now till I see something better, this looks horrible.
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Yes a few movies transcended typical comic-fare movie approaches, due mainly to directorial panache, but now marvel's just trying to cash in without creating anything new. At this point They might as well have cast Burt Ward to play Ghost Rider. DC MIGHT do well, but remains to be seen...
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Everybody keeps proclaiming Marvel flicks dead. So far we had a shitty Constantine and a great Batman flick.
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Crapiphony
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Bah!!!
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Who says I was complaining? Okay, I stand corrected about the Mac thing (...do you have to pay for it though?), but I wasn't "whining" about it. All I said was I couldn't see it and so I didn't have an opinion on it. Yup. Such incessant bitching. But you're the enlightened one, right?
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that will not effect your older QT or vice versa and you have to download the older version so you can re-install it.
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not cool linking me to the devil bro. Alright dude?
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for the audio. Now howabout the visual?!?!
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$@#&*%^!!
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This film looks terrable,terrable,terrable.Garr from MASK "Yes with rocky dennis" is back.Nooooo im not kidding.Sam Elliott is playing a biker in the flick and nick cage just seems mis -casted.
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I use Quicktime alternative and can see it just fine. The trailer didn't look bad, it didn't look great but I don't think it'll be as bad as Fantastic Four. The main thing I didn't like about DD was the cast but there's no Ben Affleck in Ghost Rider.
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If you freeze frame when Nic has that flash of the skull early in the trailer, you get a pretty good look at the flaming skull, and it looks decent enough. However Nic's hair when he is being interviewed by Eva Mendes is horrible. (Eva should have played that native american chick Witch Woman from the 70's Ghost rider comics). Wes Bentley is still a creepy bastard and Sam elliot is a cinematic God. He was Wade Garrett for cryin' out loud! (Damn, that hurts don't it?)
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There's a thing on the Apple site right below the Mac Download button that says "Quicktime 7 for Windows Public Preview Now Available". It's pretty simple to download the update and I'm betting most everything will be using this soon.
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I'm sure there is a marketing guy at Apple or Marvel who thinks this is a great idea. Jerks.
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The Director said they just wrapped so they had no Ghost Rider yet. I think the teaser is damn good considering.
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This looks as cool as The Crow. Yeah, I wish they would show the Ghost Rider but the description sounds right. I was worried they'd water down his origin, but it looks like they're going to go with it. Fuck yeah! Now way this does well where the hero sells his soul, but I'll see it. What balls to even make this one.
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..and I still don't know what to think about it... Pan out.
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I meant that I think this movie will do poorly because they kept the origin story. I was SURE there was no way they'd release something like this. Does anyone know what this one is going to be rated?
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...better than I expected.
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So I download quicktime 7 and all I get is sound. Fuck that. Oh well, it's time to watch ole Bruce kick some ass.
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Cut and paste from David Assholehof's post, "Craptime 7 for Windoze" and then downloaded and everything worked fine.
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is the Phantom Zone?
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Ghost Rider going to suck copious ammounts of crusty Harry ass. But that's what you get when take an R rated property and make a shitstain PG13 movie out of it.
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Wasn't Mark Stephen Johnson the same dude that did Daredevil? Are we to expect quality on that level? I thought Goyer was doing this, not the guy who wrote Grumpy Old Men.
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So forgive if this is a stupid question, but is this a Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde deal? Its the impression I got from the trailer that he turns into Ghost Rider and turns back to Johnny Blaze. Just curious, like I say I'm not familiar with it at all, I had just always thought Blaze did something, deal with devil, and was perma-Ghostrider, more like Spawn than Hulk.
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Man Oh man, poor Marvel, the shitstorm started with DD, continued with Singer off X3 and it just got worse! If I was in charge, I'd save my nickels and get a REAL director, pay him big bucks and hire ILM. Nic Cage is a great choice, die hard fan, Oscar winner, he's the fukin man, everythign else well...
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It's kind of like a Werewolf thing, though Jekyll and Hyde is an apt metaphor. Johnny blaze sold his soul to the Devil (In the original comic, I think it was to save the father of his girlfriend, who basically raised him, from Cancer). however, Satan screwed him, and the guy died doing a motorcycle stunt. Blaze tried to do some kind of spell to negate his deal with the Devil, and somehow was transformed into Ghost Rider. At dusk he would become Ghost Rider, and at dawn revert back to Johnny Blaze. Of course the stories been altered somewhat I'm sure since those 70's comica I read.
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I actually think I'll enjoy this movie. Although I did enjoy the Punisher and most of Daredevil so I'm sucker for dark comic book movies. Didn't like Hulk and never want to see F4. I think the only bright Superhero I like is Spiderman. Not that any of you actually care... but yeah.
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I was afraid of that. Ghost Rider really needs an R rating. It's not like Blade wasn't successful with one, I don't know why with this story you'd go for PG13. It seems like a mistake to me. Not violent enough when you're dealing with this character, and it isn't going to get the familes that FF did. The Johhny Blaze Ghost Rider did change back and forth. I'm getting less excited as I type this, that PG13 rating is bugging me.
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It can't be worse than DAREDEVIL, can it? Can it?!?! Not that the studio cares, the same morons that made FANTASTIC FOUR a hit will be lining up around the block for this shitpile.
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Ghost Rider was never a gore comic, it's really just about intensity. Devil's Rejects was R and had tons of violence in it but it didn't keep it from sucking ass.
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Fuck, that was all right!!!
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Not just here but all around the world. And DD made over $100 million domestic. Trust me, Marvel is laughing all the way to the bank!
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Jul 29, 2005 1:28:51 AM CDT
Is the flaming head going to explain Nicolas Cage's losing h
by perfecto_fan
BTW...I can't see the clip.
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Bow before The Stranger...
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You can't fight genetics, but I wish they would have hired the wigmaker that did all of Bruce Willis' pieces in Sin City. The part of Cage's acting that I'm most worried about is his Steven Seagal-like running gait. First time I really noticed it was in National Treasure and it has been haunting me ever since.
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And this looks pretty cool to me.
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I'd like to confirm that the above image isn't a screenshot from the game. But damned if it doesn't look like one.
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Is it the director's daughter?
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Keep watching it over and over and the more I do the more I like it. The flaming skull is bad ass!!
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Is it just me, or has there been like 4 of them on this site in the past week?
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Poor Nic Cage slummin' thru this shitfest. Marvel should give up. The twenty year cycle has officially ended.
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I think this looks pretty damn good. Cage looks the best he's ever looked.
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Wonder if they're doing the wheels on fire or if that's just for the teaser? Is there a screen cap of the bike?
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I can't believe that people are complaining!...fucking queers.
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not too bothered about the film though
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Can't believe some of these whiny bitches. Sooo fucking typical.
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Have the people that are complaining about a PG-13 rating ever actually read the comic? It's always been a "for all ages" book. That said, It'll probably suck because Avi decided to let MARK STEVEN JOHNSON do another Marvel film. He's fucking up already with this trailer. If this is the best you've got, WAIT A WHILE. You have A YEAR before the actual release.
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that will tell the tale. And Mark Stephen Johnson did a good job with DD if you watch the Director's Cut. It's a pretty radically different flick.
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... You mean you nerds haven't upgraded to QT7 Preview yet? Man, you're missing out on those kick-ass HiDef trailers that play like a flipbook and give you seizures because you don't own a NASA Supercomputer. Anyway, I did, the Ghost Rider trailer looks poor. I dislike the lighting in general seems too light, like F4. This is the guy that made DareDevil: Directors Cut right? I like the cast though and it's early doors yet......
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dude, that girl fight video was THE COOLEST THING I'VE EVER SEEN. i laughed my ass off watching it, then realized that ANY ONE of those girls could kick my ass. even the chicks who got their ass beat.--------http://x600.putfile.com/videos/20822083678.mov------
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I'm a long time reader of G.R. It's about time he made his way to the big screen. Love the look of motorcycle!
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But the budget is only 51 million. That is amazing to me considering The Island and Charlie and the Chocolate Factory cost well over 100 million.
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It just made sense to go for an R rating I thought, when they made it into a movie. The same for Ghost Rider. And what works in a comic for all ages doesn't work the same in a film. There's some really cool stuff in the comics, and the best stuff wouldn't work with an R rating, in my opinion. Or it would seem lame. I thought the trailer looked cool, but how far can they go with this concept and have it be PG13? They might make it work though, and I'll see it no matter what.
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Wow...I hardly ever post on here, but I just had to put my two cents in. Just when you thought Marvel and Avi would never again stoop to ManThing or Daredevil levels of badness... now, I am not one to usually harp on how horrific an early trailer looks...I mean, by the looks of all of the Fantastic Four trailers, I thought that that movie was going to be a trainwreck; but when I finally saw it, I was comforted by the fact that it was a mildly enjoyable trainwreck. Now, it's too early to judge the special effects in Ghost Rider, so I am not extremely alarmed by the fleeting shots of Cage's plastic-looking skull on fire in the trailer. But look at that cinematography! Oh, lord, the acting!!!! Wes Bentley's HORRIBLE make-up!!!! What's with the shoe polish under the eyes, are you about to suit up for football?? And oh god, poor Captain America himself, Peter Fonda...what the hell happened to you, man??!!! And Nic Cage's hairpiece, yow! And that stupid, fat goth bitch, speaking to the press, and describing Ghost Rider: Was she supposed to be FUNNY????? I rolled my fucking eyes upon viewing that scene. EDIT THAT COW OUT!! I really want to like this movie, despite Mark Steven Johnson's track record, but my god this trailer was a piece of shit. This movie is going to be a mess. A big, dumb, PG-13, happy meal, toy and video game tie-in, motherloving mess. Fire Johnson immediately, hire a new director, shoot some new scenes, salvage this pile of poo before it's too late!!!!!!
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It looks bad!!?? From the maker of Daredevil??!!!! You don't
by industrykiller
Daredevil was a train wreck. Just a nightmare set to film. C'Mon people. This is just as destined to suck as X3. Probably more so. We have to face the fact here, Comic book movies suck. They just do. You can take a guilty pleasure stance but that is really all they are as made by the current studio system. They have the potential for so much greatness which is why it's upsetting that people justify crap like F4.
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Jul 29, 2005 3:26:42 AM CDT
Okay, I downloaded QT7 for PC and saw the GR teaser. I've g
by l.h.puttgrass
1. Is QT7 supposed to be an improvement over QT6? It doesn't look much better than Windows Media Player streaming on a slow connection. 2. Isn't Mark Steven Johnson the same guy that gave us Ben WHO-fleck as a superhero with a bad haircut? If so, he's about to go 2 for 2 with Nick Cage and that critter on Nick's noggin. Good Lord, someone is gonna take a shot at that thing with a Daisy air-rifle! Duck! Nick! Duck!!
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Man, I wanted to see that as well. Anyone know if it's anywhere in regular format??? No way I'm losing QT Pro.
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That is just....rancid! Oh man-that may be the worst trailer I've ever seen....
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is that after this phase goes the way of disco, I'll still be heading to the comic book shop every week. Seems the studios are rushing to blow their wad before the well runs dry.
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Jul 29, 2005 4:51:24 AM CDT
I really don't understand why you people are so surprsised a
by octaveaeon
It's a fucking business, period. You want to change Hollywood, then you have to change how people do business, or at least think about doing business. Everything in the U.S. is a franchise. Have a good idea? Patent it. Copy right. Market it. And now thanks to globalism, the whole world agrees. Doesn't matter what you do with, or whom you 'lend' it to, as long as you make money. McDonalds? Over 16.5 billion served, thank you very much, who cares if the burgers are shitty, the numbers speak for themselves (box office anyone?). Enron? Proof that the system works (I forget the idiot economist that said this...). Worldcom? Ditto. Halliburton in Iraq? Diversification. And lets not forget about the weapons we sell... Sooo, please stop bitching and DO something! Wouldn't it be pathetic if you found your children whining about the same shit in the future? Thats if we have a future left, at the rate we're going... ok, I feel better.
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poor wes bently.
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They could create the dullest, most untalented human ever born.
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360 feet apart, not 300. I guess they spent all the money on that brilliant flame effect and couldn't afford a fact checker.
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Without Quickslime infecting the system. Not that I intend to watch this trailer... what is this "Ghost rider", anyway? Some comic book, I assume.
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You dildos seem to think everything that is comic related is going to suck if it doesn't instantly meet your childhood memories of what a comic should be. Go sit and watch a full day of A Dinner with Andre, Terms of Endearment, Beaches, Hannah and Her Sisters etc.. and then you'll be pounding down the theater doors begging to see Ghost Rider. What a bunch of internerd whiners.
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That trailer is a fucking joke, johnson should be banned from making any more films, although DD2 and ELEKTRA2 are in the pipeline......Elektra 2?? what the fuck are these people at Marvel doing....lining thier pockets, thats what. Hey if I was a Marvel Character Feature Film person I would have all of these in the Development Pipeline aswell;
X-Men 3, Ghost Rider, The Punisher 2,
Spider-Man 3, Namor, Iron Man, Luke Cage,
Deathlok, The Hulk 2, Wolverine, and then just to ice the cake I would probably develop Ant-Man, Black Panther, Captain America, Killraven, Nick Fury, Silver
Surfer and Thor, with that many projects on the go my bonus will be gigantic when the revenue comes in........I for one will be boycotting all these films, unless some decent talent is involved, but the way marvel is going they clearly do not care what happens to their precious characters...how depressing. -
All the characters mentioned are apparantly on the way according to superhero hype.
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she can't act for shit. Actually there were some great wooden performances from Cage, Fonda, & Mendes in this one.
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Jul 29, 2005 7:59:48 AM CDT
Not to beat the proverbial dead horse, but the PG-13 is fine
by terry_1978
When has the comics ever been remotely R, aside from some cursing and a couple of violent deaths on occasion? The man's power involves damaging you soul, unless you feel that's R material.
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Very weird.
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...rating mean GR will be using Heckfire and Mephisto will actually be from Vermont?
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was just from some test footage. The guy wearing the mask is a cameraman or grip. And Eva Mendes is all kinds of hot!
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I dig the trailer, kind goofy at parts, but in a good Army of Darkness kind of a way. Should be a fun flick.
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Apparently, Marvel refuses to believe that making good movies will earn them more money. Spider Man? Spider Man 2? X-Men? Forget it! Somebody call the guy who directed "The Punisher," let's party!
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It's a year away from coming out. Of course the Ghost Rider isn't ready yet. They said as much at the Con. But it looks pretty fucking cool this far out!
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He alone gives me hope. And Cage looks great. Amazing what hair does.
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After the stench ridden Buried treasure(note to disney: did you not see the special ed DVD and why Jon Turtletaub changed the ending? Answer he only wanted to make one Buried treasure film and ruled out a sequel.)
Nic cage as demon bounty hunter(uh uh uhn Im nic cage and Im a bounty hunter uh uh uhn) that should be hilarious given that at every opportunity he loves to do his elvis impersonation.
well he has the bike and the leather jacket.
It does have a cool cast so maybe it will work who knows.
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What's it in front of? Anybody?
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Dr boll has another film in prodcution. A video game(god this boll is predictable) starring Jason Statham, Clare Forlani and leelee Sobieski. Theres one for DTDVD barrell in video store and no mistake.
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I'm the biggest GR fan ever but if this sucks I'm gonna be pissed. I'm dl'ing the trailer now and hopefully it will work. In case anyone cares, here is a wallpaper I made with all movie images. It has the teaser posters and the hellcycle pic in it. If only the movie would look this good... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v376/thejeditraitor/grw2.jpg
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for the love of rejuvenex does sam elliott ever age, I mean seriously that guy looks the same as he did in Mask
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I just watched constantine last night and thought it was own worthy in fact it was damn fine. Now daredevil was one of my favorite comic book charaters but I can't stand Ben and that just totally fucked that movie for me. But I think this one has a shot or two, ghost rider and the battle of hell and heaven that rages on earth has long been a strong premise for good movies. And so far thats what this looks like, so I'm all in. And for all you geeks complaining about the lack of a solid image of the ghost rider I say this; it's kinda like the tripods in WOTW, it's something better seen raw and do you really want that spoiled for a trailer?
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stop deluding yourselves. This is awful and deep down you know it. Come opening weekend youll be saying the same thing. Arad is on a fucking roll.
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Ugghhhh,this has Showgirls-bad written all over it...Meanwhile,can someone tell me if I'm losing it as I seem to be getting attracted to Rachel McAdams.That girl is C*U*T*E.If in doubt try sexydesktop.co.uk and go to her page.Fuck me,that cheeky smile..that 'cuter-than-man-chinned-Jennifer("I was knocked up by The Affleck")-Garner' look.Those perky freckles....Ahh,Scarlett..it..may..be over..What,Ghost Rider...C'mon..it looks horrible.The point made about Eva being an Ass-bandit-extraordinaire says it all.Perhaps put that on the poster.Eva "I like it in my ass" Mendes...
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Also, is it just me or is Eva Mendes the ugliest, most annoying bitch to walk on two legs?
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Jul 29, 2005 11:07:38 AM CDT
ATTENION EVA MENDES: SIT ON MY FACE......THAT IS ALL.
by sydbarretsmydad
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I loaded the new software, rebooted and everything...nothin'. Just sound. So, in my humble opinion to Columbia Pictures is...FIX IT!
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I think you might be insane. It is good to see a beautiful actress like Mendes over the waif selection that we are being forced to watch in film now.
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Jul 29, 2005 11:17:08 AM CDT
Don't think I'm particularly impressed by Mendes' an
by the true priapic
..Sex secrets just become tame if admitted by stars and makes them look like assholes.Gillian Anderson admitted "breaking the law" in FHM about 10 years ago and it was like...pphhh,whatever,you dirty scrag.Mendes trying to turn on the readers of whatever mans mag it was just ends up sounding like a retard.Put your money where your mouth is and do a porno,stopped whining about how dirty you are..............Oh,and how in HELL am I supposed to find Mendes more attractive than the goddess Amber Valetta in Hitch?Pearls to swine...
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Jul 29, 2005 11:22:22 AM CDT
Oh,and why does Empire mag say Peta Wilson is in Superman Return
by the true priapic
Who the fuck is she playing?
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Casting directors post-Nikita haven't been kind.....
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... on quicktime. i still don't understand the concept of hollywood taking beloved comic characters and changing around the story so much. people liked the comics because they liked the story. why not just condense the main story arc and translate it to film? well at least they're making a GR videogame. even if the movie sucks i'll play the game. and before all you film-nazis start yelling, "you're the problem, you're why hollywood makes shitty movies." i don't WANT the movie to be shitty but it's beyond my control. if the only good thing about this is me getting a GR game to play.. then so be it.
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Or should I say H.I.?
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No investment in the comic, so don't know how to gauge this yet. Don't care for Cage or Fonda. Still too early to tell. Hope the public doesn't confuse this for a Spawn ripoff.
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i loved GH when iw as a kid in the late 70s, early 80s, but for the life of me, i can't remember the story. mostly i remember that he looked cool. that was pretty much it. "kewl, man! skeleton man on fire! rock!"
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on occasion you and I have disagreed and exchanged words that may be construed as unkind but I'm going to take it a bit farther here by saying you know not your ass from your elbow. the only thing you said above that is even remotely close to accurate is that AV is a looker. Otherwise though I'm afraid you've got your head up your ass and apparently are enjoying the smell
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who is H.I.? is that nic cages real name or something?
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There's a sexbom-type reporter that works at the Planet in Superman. It's a small part, but I'm assuming that's her.
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well, i watched it a few times.
the good: sam elliot, sam elliot's voice, the atmosphere, the music and some cool action.
the bad: eva mendes, fat girl, cage's weird hair-type thing, some of cage's delivery, bad jokes and the unfinished cg.
i like it because it's GR but it's not great or anything. there were some cool spooky type shots, the dog barking, the streetlights going out, the foggy swamp, the clouded sun, etc. hopefully this main theme of darkness will pervade throughout.
my opinion is that they are headed in the right direction but they need to stay away from the cheese and the corn.
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the original story has changed a few times but it's basically the same deal. johnny blaze's parents die. he is taken in by the carnival his father worked for as a stunt rider. blaze makes a pact with mephisto/satan/the devil to save his adoptive father from cancer. meph promises he won't die from CANCER and instead he eats it hard while attempting a cycle stunt. blaze has sold his soul and when meph comes to collect, roxanne his WHITE, RED-HEADED girlfriend speaks some occult gibberish and meph goes away. since meph can't get johnny's soul he curses him by binding him to a demon. the demon takes control at night when evil approaches. it has no memory of itself and it creates it's bike from hellfire and shoots hellfire out of it's hands. eventually the demon is revealed to be zarathos an evil demon from ancient times. in the end blaze is able to separate from zarathos.
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the new gr started in 92 or 93 and was the better story. dan ketch finds an old motorcycle in a graveyard. when his sister is killed there he is possessed by the ghost rider. in this one the bike transforms into the actual hellcycle when gr pops up. this gr has the mystic chains, the spikes on him and the penance stare. again gr has no memory of himself but this time he is driven by vengeance. he must protect the innocent and make the wicked feel the pain of all their victims.
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..to my knowledge at least you're not one of those dreadful hate-mongering talkbackers like Anchorite or DocPazuzu who come on here,strangely only to talk politics or sexual politics,so you're okay by me.But I'm guessing you mean you're more a Mendes guy than a Valetta one.That's fine,I think we'll definately get on when the four of us are the last humans left to breed a new species like a bad Outer Limits episode.What?What do mean that'll never happen??But I do know asses from elbows.Elbows are only physically able to fit up one ass and that's la Mendes.Followed closely by R.Kelly's.
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only to have the fucking site run out of bandwidth. Fucking waste of time.
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try that to dl. sorry if that's not working.
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..Empire magazine has just given The Descent 5 fucking stars.They must be employing 10 year olds to review now.As if the magazine wasn't up Spielberg and Lucas' ass far enough to taste it,now this.Perhaps their reviewers may like to rent and watch Dead Calm's opening minutes,Aliens,the character of Gollum in LOTR,the Reman makeup from TREK:Nemesis,Seven's negativity,the sub-par acting of BBC's Casualty 'drama',the directors first film for backbone of plot(,barely able to type that>),Sam Raimi's tracking shots from Dead 2..oh and did I mention Gollum.It's like this fucker sat in the cinema and thought "Wow,wouldn't it be ace if a bunch of people had to fight an entire army of those bastards!".Oh and a shot from Predator,that McTiernan should fucking sue over(think..mud..and a certain baddie crawling over the good guy/gal)...what else...I know,lets make EVERY-SINGLE_FUCKING character Vasquez from Aliens............If you're wondering why I'm angry it's just the fucking patronising patriotic British press giving this shite great reviews in the hope that "jolly old blighty can do the scare as well as those darn Yanks".We can't on this basis.It's a rip off of so...many......URGGH,I'm sorry sometimes ...every so often..a film will anger me so much.Anyway,Ghost Rider...personally,I'm thinking isn't this a strange title to pick as opposed to so many great Marvel comics.Surely Iron Man had great potential.Ghost Rider..forgive me,GH fans...was I believe a very secondary character in the Marvel Universe.And Cage's hair is ..ABOMINAL.And looks silly.And I won't start on Mens Mag fave Mendes as I understand there be fans here.Look....it thinks it's acting......
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we can dream can't we true? and hell if we write a good enough screenplay about just the four of us, maybe we could be the next Matt & Ben dynamic duo. These hollywood producers seem desperate enough for new material anyway. touche my friend! you start working on it and I'll sign it when it's done (again like Matt & Ben)
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character's name in Raising Arizona
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Trevor,if you aint seen Raising Arizona rent immediately.Arguably Coen's funniest(especially those fucking dogs running after H.I.)...oh and try www.sexydesktop.co.uk click on babes and voila go to eva mendes.Not a particularly overt site but cool enough.........Just keep away from ma Valetta,that gals an Oklahoma gal...used to play football too so I hear.Then agian she is a m.t.a. so god knows what conversation would be like...ah,hell..I'm sure I can live without it.!YYYEEhhaaaa....Just don't try that The Descent...actually,DO!I need some critique back on this...
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and nick cage with a black eye but other than that I'm a little fuzzy, too much smoke damage I suppose
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did you guys hear about this kid? He's a badass video gamer that can't be beat at most fighting style games. But get this - he's blind (talk about taking things for granted) ain't that cool news?
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I thought this looked pretty good, but glad to hear it's early yet.
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Jul 29, 2005 3:56:07 PM CDT
Harry,luv ya 'n all..but that last statement about "this is
by the true priapic
...now...personally...I didnt like the trailer much,the design of little things like Cage's biker suit when interviewed looked..horrid.But I have to admit..and,oh by christ I'm gonna get flamed..I liked Daredevil!DD didnt real feel like the Matt I have read about.Affleck,I like as a guy,he's a bit mad,bad-ish and probably really funny company over a beer..but not Murdock to me..but I thought the stuff with his father and generally a lot of the film was at least made by..certainly felt like..a fan.In the documentary Mark Stephen Johnston(sp?) came over as a nice dude.Good Luck with this film.But...y'know..I get the impression it's gonna be aimed at 12-13 yr olds with a heavy rock soundtrack and lots of totty with their boobs pumped up to freakish level.But...hell,I hated the first designs of Gollum so...who the fuck am I to talk.I think most people on this site(which is great fun to voice OVER-DRAMATIZED-OPINIONS)get the fact that works in progress are exactly that.All we want is a good fun couple of hours in the flix that don't feel like a $9 blow job off a 300 yr old corpse.Michael Bay and The Descent director take note....
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Jul 29, 2005 4:24:01 PM CDT
It wasn't the trailer or effects that looked shitty, it was
by inspectordoppler
I'm sure they'll polish up the trailer so it shines, but the footage from the film itself looked like bad TV...
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Harry, you're missing the point. I don't care if GR winds up being the most dead-on, kick-ass rendition of a Marvel character ever to hit the screen...the movie itself just screams 'ASSSSSSS!' based on what we see here. Bentley and Fonda just look absolutely ridiculous, not even remotely threatening or scary. Even Sam Elliot, someone I consider fairly bulletproof, looks silly slinging that shovel around. The dialogue sucks, the character designs and makeup suck (for Meph and Blackheart or whatever his name is), the whole thing just looks like a complete abortion. The GR design isn't my worry...it's a terrible script and awful casting decisions backed by a star that may be zealous for the role but really isn't cut out for it that has me trembling.
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Jul 29, 2005 5:32:10 PM CDT
"next time - if we see the full on GHOST RIDER and it looks like
by hypeendshere
The problem is people who do either. It's called bipolar. Jesus, they're just dopey fucking movies. curb your enthusiasm a notch.
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that actually sounds like a pretty cool backstory. it'd be great if they made it grindhouse style (with CG for the flaming skull, of course) -- like fighting demon hick trucker vikings and methed out demon biker gangs -- but you know they won't.
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i dont care if the effects are cool in the final cut. The acting is bottom of the barrel crap. Every single line delivered in that clip was awful. AND WTF IS UP WITH THAT HAIR?
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Jul 29, 2005 6:09:42 PM CDT
My God, it's really looks like someone with his head on fire
by cookylamoo
I can smell roasting nose and lips.
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This update makes more sense, I can't remember the last ime I saw an R rated trailer. And I've NEVER seen nudity in a PG13 trailer. Bet they clean up the real trailer so they can run it with Shrek 3 or whatever.
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The hair is to make 41-years-old Nicolas Cage look like some wet-behind-the-ears extreme sports punk. As we all know, the 'muss' is a very Now hairdo among The Young People. It's happening. It's groovy. It speaks the language of the streets- and you can tell that the kids respect that.
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And you're right about it being wrong for us fanboys to bitch before we see the final article. After all, this is GR, not the FF. ::eyeroll::
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Are you sure you didn't download a different 'teaser' clip. You know like something other than Hell being raised. Sorry I couldn't resist. Seriously though, was there actually nudity ine clip? I saw it before they took it off and I didn't see that.
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The character is called Johnny Raise and he sells his pole to the devil. I didn't see the clip, just wanted to write that. Trying to break into the porn industry as a writer so I'm floating some of my better stuff.
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"demon hick trucker vikings and methed out demon biker gangs"
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Beside the obvious. The shitty v.o. Ben Affleck.
And granted I haven't seen the Director's Cut...but here (in a nutshell) is why DD sucks ass. Daredevil has the BEST secret identity ever. He's frigging blind. Who's going to suspect a blind guy of being a kick you in the face while doing a backflip superhero? So what does Mr. Blind Guy do? Has a lame ass flirtation fight in a playground where he destroys his alibi by showing Elektra and at least 10 school kids see that he can not only fight...but can do a backflip on a teeter totter without falling off. My very first thought if I saw this would be. Either he's not really blind or he's a ninja or some shit. Fucking ridiculous. -
Jul 29, 2005 11:03:26 PM CDT
WHAT?! Harry you puked FF but willingly spread your fanboy legs
by enter4none
I guess Sony's checks do arrive quick...How easy Harold is sold by Playstation One FX.
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If Thomas Haden Church is the Chameleon... so is Topher Grace...
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I can't wait to download this movie... er... line up and pay for it like everyone else...
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good one iamnicksaicnsn. i think you may be onto something.....
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Jul 30, 2005 9:19:38 AM CDT
dominic_vobiscum, "but here (in a nutshell) is why DD sucks ass"
by immortal_fish
Yeah, you're right about that scene. It sucked and sucked hard. But for you to diss the entire movie based upon the weight of that one scene obviates why you should hate the entirety of Spider-Man 2 for the train sequence. Parker goes completely maskless and we're expected to believe that no one aboard the train is carrying a camera phone with them or bears the temerity to identify Parker to a police sketch artist. There were ten times as many adult bystanders on the train than there were children in the playground. Now, perhaps you hated Spider-Man 2 as well. I don't know. But by your own account you should find that it sucks at least as much ass as DD for committing the same crime against logic and reasoning.
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http://www.superherohype.com/news/ghostridernews.php?id=3347
" Sony Statement on the Ghost Rider Footage
Source: Sony Pictures
July 29, 2005
Ghost Rider footage hit the Web last night and was removed this morning because it was just meant to be shown at Comic-Con. The studio released a statement explaining the situation:
Ghost Rider only recently wrapped principal photography, and the footage that appeared on this site represents the earliest version of a character that has not been fully rendered. While we were pleased with the overwhelming enthusiasm the footage received at Comic Con, this special convention piece was never intended for release on the internet. A final look of Ghost Rider is a long way from being realized and we look forward to your feedback more than a year from now when the film makes it way to theaters."
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Fantastic job!
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...it was still footage from the movie and the footage looked like ass.
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i just saw the trailer for A SOUND OF THUNDER. It looks like a crap SCI FI original movie. And if you think Cage's hair looks awful check out Ben Kingsley's hair. Yowza quit stickin yer pecker in the fuse box bruther.
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I downloaded the damn update but where is the fucking file?
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That was one reason I wondered what the rating was going to be. Ghost Rider had some really cool stories that could actually be scary if done right. There was one that had Ghost Rider having to save the pope from someone who considered him to be the leader of the world. He had the pope strapped to a table to prepare him for sacrifice. I think that would look cheesy with PG13, you know they're not going to show the pope in any real danger or getting beat up in a PG13 movie. but with an R, you'd be thinking the whole time,"This dude's beating up the pope!" How cool would THAT be?
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Must find the clip
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I'm not dismissing the entire movie based on that one scene. That scene to me is symptomatic of the entire film. Because besides being mind numbingly dumb, the scene is also awkward, dull, and has Ben Affleck in it. (hee) I actually liked Spiderman 2 quite a bit, with the exception of Snaggletooth McGee (Kirsten Dunst) who was miscast and bad in the first one and miscast and AWFUL in the second. I never do that "It should have been ___ instead of ___" but with Spiderman I do. Mary Jane should have been played by Laura Prepon, end of story. Anyway, going in I'd seen the trailer with him not wearing his mask and I thought, "They'd better come up with a DAMN good explanation for that." I was ready to hate the movie if they couldn't. And while I still agree it would have been better to NOT have it in the movie, here's why it doesn't bother me and how it's different than DD's scene. Spiderman didn't intentionally take his mask off, he can't see anything and has no choice but to rip it off. The people might have been too much in shock to even THINK about using a camera phone. First because they almost died and then because they see that Spiderman is just some punk kid who almost died to save them. And we only have their word that they won't tell. You know that the very next day those kids were telling all their friends that they saw under Spiderman's mask. To which their friends would say, "Shut the fuck up, foo. You ain't seen shit." The only part of that scene which bothered me was the "Spiderman as Jesus" shot where he's being hauled over people's heads. Now Daredevil on the other hand, he not only purposely throws away his secret identity, he does it just because he wants a piece.
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Motherfuckers are gonna pay you are the ones who are the ball-lickers. We are going to kill all of you motherfuckers, and fuck your mothers while watch and cry like whinny little bitches.
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I wanna see! Somebody help me out. Screw Sony!
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The one comic character who I thought would make the most kick ass movie-hero is finally on screen. I love comics, but not comics movies, hopefully this film will cause me to have me a change of heart.
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A flaming skull is cool, a flaming head is just disgusting.
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I've never seen flatter cinematography in an action comic book movie trailer in my life. Maybe Fantastic Four.
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If you thought the playground scene was bad, what did you think of him revealing himself to the Kingpin? And the Kingpin won't do anything about it because he would be "embarassed" if people knew he had been beaten by a blind man??? That was when, for me, the movie lost its last shred of credibility.
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Come back Doc!!
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