Ain't It Cool News (www.aintitcool.com)
Coaxial

Crazy Capone

I am – Hercules!!

Capone likes “Carnivale” too! Look! Capone is trying to save “Carnivale”! Save “Carnivale, Capone! Save “Carnivale”!

Hey, Herc and all you folks on the right-hand side of the page. Capone in Chicago to deliver one last message regarding this weekend's Flashback Weekend (www.flashbackweekend.com) convention.

I tend not be too bothered when a television show I watch gets canceled; I'm not the sentimental type. 99 times out of 100, the show had run its course and deserves a mercy killing. But this was not the case for one show that I will genuinely miss. I was a massive, massive fan of HBO's "Carnivale." The first season was someone taxing, I'll admit, but the second season witnessed such a transformation and upgrade, I almost couldn't believe it. Every week, major events would unfold in the classic battle between good and evil, heaven and hell, the second coming and the son of Satan. And clearly I'm not the only one who felt this way.

I keep reading stories in television columns that HBO continues to get pounded with petitions and e-mails begging them to bring back this quality show. To drive home the point one more time with HBO, there will be a "Bring Back Carnivale" rally at Flashback Weekend on July 30, with several cast members in attendance and yours truly as emcee.

Let me run down the schedule of events: At 1:30, Tim DeKay (Jonesy) will take the stage for a Q&A. At 1:50, he will be joined by co-star Adrienne Barbeau for the official Bring Back Carnivale Rally. This will be followed by a separate Q&A with Ms. Barbeau (who will obviously be talking about more than just "Carnivale"). The rally will be filmed and sent to HBO as yet another example of how devoted the fan base is.

On Sunday, July 31, the full-on official "Carnivale" panel will happen with DeKay, Barbeau, and series guests Bill Moseley and Matt McGrory. At best, it will be a chance for fans to show their support and bring back a great show that was clearly getting better. At worst, it will be an opportunity to say good-bye to some of our favorite from the cast. See you there, and let's shake some dust, children!

Capone

email: Do you want to play... a game? Capone loves playing Global Thermonuclear War! Email him here to sign up!





Were Anakin Skywalker and Darth Vader two different people in the early drafts of “The Empire Strikes Back”? All is revealed in The Annotated Screenplays (Star Wars, Episodes IV-VI)!!

Look! A fabulous new book co-edited by big-deal "Buffy"-"Firefly"-"Gilmore Girls" TV writer Jane Espenson. She introduces each of the essays, and the whole book besides:
Finding Serenity: Anti-Heroes, Lost Shepherds and Space Hookers in Joss Whedon's Firefly!!

Look! A new book by
“Freaks & Geeks” creator Paul Feig!
Superstud: Or How I Became a 24-Year-Old Virgin!!

Look! Christina Ricci cavorts nakedly!
Prozac Nation on DVD!!

Look! Original casting tapes! Deleted scenes!
Audio commentaries! Backstage with Drive Shaft!
Lost: The Complete First Season on DVD!!

Readers Talkback
comments powered by Disqus
    + Expand All
  • July 27, 2005, 1:11 a.m. CST

    First

    by Forestal

  • July 27, 2005, 1:12 a.m. CST

    THANK YOU, CAPONE.

    by Johnny Smith

    I officially love you. Also, everyone -- www.carnycon.com and www.savecarnivale.org. That is all.

  • July 27, 2005, 1:17 a.m. CST

    Wish I could help....

    by Code6idiot

    If HBO box sets weren't so damned overpriced, I'd buy the seasons and help your cause, but alas, I am but a minimum wage slave....

  • July 27, 2005, 1:20 a.m. CST

    FIRST!!!!!!!! Now save Carniv

    by AssKing

    Go to www.savecarnivale.org and get busy!

  • July 27, 2005, 1:23 a.m. CST

    Damn, not first. Save Carniv

    by AssKing

    nm

  • July 27, 2005, 1:51 a.m. CST

    yeah I can't afford the dvds either

    by coop

    but I'm renting them from netflix and loaning them to friends if that helps.

  • July 27, 2005, 2:09 a.m. CST

    Having Carnivale end when it did is borderline cruel and unusual

    by HappyHamster

    "A prophet in your house". When I saw the season 2 cliffhanger and knew I it would be the episode finale, I nearly went on a 3 state killing spree. Like Capone, I'm generally not one to get too sentimental about TV shows. But hey, it has to happen sometime, right? This one got to me and it's hard to take having it end the way it did knowing that there is so much more story to tell.

  • July 27, 2005, 2:41 a.m. CST

    Sincerely, best of luck...

    by JackBurton

    Anything that helps sway HBO into bringing back Carnivale in one form or another (be it miniseries, a tv movie or two, or a fully fledged third season) is well worth supporting. One of the best shows on the box in a damn long time, it deserved a far longer run and better treatment than it ultimately got. Viva la carnivale.

  • July 27, 2005, 2:57 a.m. CST

    Fawk you First Whores

    by ChristianZane

    Get a fucking life, sitting on your ass all day hitting the refresh button and wasting oxygen and resources, I don

  • July 27, 2005, 3:06 a.m. CST

    never watched it.

    by Krangelus

    didnt look very interesting.

  • July 27, 2005, 3:08 a.m. CST

    Krangelus

    by optimus122

    The show owned dude , its on HBO on Demand or rent the DVD's from Netflix or Blockbuster online..well worth your time.

  • July 27, 2005, 4:07 a.m. CST

    YES BRING BACK CARNIVALE!

    by Ben Hawkins

    Too bad it won't be saved... sigh I need some closure dammit.

  • July 27, 2005, 4:07 a.m. CST

    Gah!

    by LightinthePiazza

    If only I lived anywhere near there. I would be there. I adore this show. This show and Dead Like Me are two shows that I really REALLY wish someone would just give the people money to conclude for me. I need it. I need this closure.

  • July 27, 2005, 4:24 a.m. CST

    Ben

    by optimus122

    It will be saved one way or another , maybe it won't be back as a HBO series but it will be back..there are a shitload of fans now and a lot more on the way and they are all bombarding HBO on a daily basis...the best thing about this all is most of the carnivale cast and its creator are a huge part of the movement. A lot of my shows have been cancelled and most had fans rallying to save them but none of those shows had the same type of commitment I see going on with this save carnivale movement. Its not even close.

  • July 27, 2005, 6:17 a.m. CST

    by foreignerbelt

    saw a couple eps of this show in its first season, and it was painfully slow. I felt like I was stuck in the dustbowl choking to death on the heat. yet I tend to believe people who say the second season picked up and got better. the eps I saw were basically good, but they were also somewhat excruciating in their slow reveals and sweltering, oppressive atmosphere. I can imagine that when the plot started to really roll it must have been refreshing and a great relief, especially after you had put so much time in. I just honestly couldn't hack it for that long. I imagine others had a similar experience. If anyone knows how the ratings compare between seasons, I'd be interested to know.

  • July 27, 2005, 6:53 a.m. CST

    Hoorah!!!

    by Halloween68

    BRING BACK CARNIVALE! BRING BACK CARNIVALE! BRING BACK CARNIVALE! Unfortunately, I can't fly out to your event. If I lived in the area, I'd be there in a heartbeat. By the way, what's up with HBO lately? What are they turning into Fox? Shows that are long dead they keep dragging out for another painful round (ie. SIX FEET UNDER), shows that are just barely off the ground they dismiss without a second thought. SOPRANOS is gone after this coming season (some would argue this show is well past its prime). That'll leave DEADWOOD and ENTOURAGE. I'll bet they have another brainfart and cancel one of those two within the next year or two. The quality that was CARNIVALE is every bit as good as any of these shows "in their prime". BRING BACK CARNIVALE!

  • July 27, 2005, 7:56 a.m. CST

    I almost got HBO for Carnivale, then they cancelled it

    by Drath

    So I'm glad I didn't waste the money. Is this "Save CARNIVALE" campaign at all realistic? Sure Farscape got to come back for a mini series, but would that really be satisfying for Carnivale? Is it even possible for Carnivale to have a satisfying conclusion? I haven't seen season 2, so I don't know if it's a worth the effort to bring it back or not.

  • July 27, 2005, 8:57 a.m. CST

    Yes!!! Carnivale!! HBO bring it back!!!

    by Duty

    I told you that I was going to turn off HBO from my cable and I have. The reason is you cancled Carnivale!! Yes I would have loved to have seen the last season of Six Feet Under and would loved to see The Sopranos, The Wire, and fucking LARRY DAVID!!!!But Im not gonna turn HBO back on till you return the quality show that is Carnivale! -Justin Duty

  • July 27, 2005, 9:17 a.m. CST

    at least

    by ZO

    tie up the loose ends give us a 4 hr mini series or something

  • July 27, 2005, 9:26 a.m. CST

    Bring it back!

    by MiserableRainGod

    'cause it was great.

  • July 27, 2005, 9:50 a.m. CST

    Price

    by LeeScoresby

    The biggest problem with Carnivale is the $89.95 price tag on the DVD set. If HBO had ANY sense at all, it would mark that set down to a more reasonable $45-50 margin. The only reason I don't own the first season is because I refuse on principle to buy anything so blatantly over-priced, regardless of how fancy the packaging is. http://codemorse.blogspot.com/

  • July 27, 2005, 10:38 a.m. CST

    Carnivale and Dead Like ME....

    by Mr. Dogfart

    Two excellent shows that were both ended prematurely by piss poor executive decisions. Both networks claim that the ratings were bad. Since when do ratings have anything to do with a pay channel that runs the show several times per week anyway, and is not supported by advertisers that base their investment on ratings? The only thing these guys have to worry about is putting on enough quality programming to keep their subscribers happy. Then they replace these fine shows with network style crap like Fat Actress which sucks pignuts, and The Comeback which is one of the worst shows ever aired on any network at any time. This show is so bad it is actually painful to watch. I've watched every episode waiting for the "magic" to finally happen, and have yet to even crack a smile at this supposedly hilarious comedy. They need to get it through their heads, the only reason we subscribe is to get superior programming, if they are just going to emulate the networks poor choices, then they deserve the same apathy from the buying public.

  • July 27, 2005, 11:30 a.m. CST

    Wish I could be there too...

    by ComputerGuy68

    Hope it makes a difference, this show needs a proper ending

  • July 27, 2005, 1 p.m. CST

    "the first season was someone taxing"

    by mocky_puppet

    "somewhat". and can we please focus on bring firefly back to tv?

  • July 27, 2005, 1:09 p.m. CST

    Bring back Invader Zim!

    by fiester

    Er...sorry...wrong talkback.

  • July 27, 2005, 1:13 p.m. CST

    Dear HBO,

    by RezE11even

    Bring back Carnivale. Or I will go from office to office pumping round after round into your friends and coworkers. Your Pal, Rez

  • July 27, 2005, 2:09 p.m. CST

    For the love of Brother Justin, bring back Carnivale HBO

    by boast

    Best show on TV since GvsE. BRING IT BACK.

  • July 27, 2005, 2:10 p.m. CST

    CARNY POWER!

    by JustinSane

    Bring it back, dammit. Come on, HBO, what the hell is wrong with you?

  • July 27, 2005, 2:22 p.m. CST

    by foreignerbelt

    fiester it is never the wrong talkback for Invader Zim

  • July 27, 2005, 2:25 p.m. CST

    Bring it back now

    by holidill

    All we need is one more season to wrap everything up and I would be happy. My wife and I cancelled our HBO because they cancelled the series. IT was a show we liked to watch together.

  • July 27, 2005, 2:44 p.m. CST

    Woohoo! & info about Carny Convention

    by Earth2Kim

    THANK YOU for the press of the Flashback weekend's Carnivale event -- this show did NOT deserve to be cancelled! It was AMAZING. (And I hear ya on Dead Like Me, too) There's a Carnivale convention/fan gathering coming up in LA next April, with LOTS and LOTS of Carnivale actors... visit: http://www.carnycon.com

  • July 27, 2005, 3:02 p.m. CST

    Can we start a "Cancel The Comeback" campaign? Or is it unnecess

    by chickychow

    I just hate Lisa Kudrow. I wish she'd just go away... But i'm not willing to pay someone $500,000 to assassinate her or anything. No way. Anyone who wants to talk about setting up an elaborate "punk'd"esque charade which culminates with her head yards away from her body will be frowned upon... (I'm not even gonna throw in an extra 100 grand to maul Matt LeBlanc)

  • July 27, 2005, 5:44 p.m. CST

    re: boast

    by _Maltheus_

    Damn, GvsE, that was one of the coolest shows that went nowhere. When it shifted to Sci-fi and the got cancelled, I wouldn't watch it's replacement (Invisible Man) for any of the first season. But that show too was about as cool in a very similar way. I'm waiting for both of those to appear on DVD. Carivale is way different than the two, but I loved it from the beginning. In fact, I'm probably the only one out there who actually preferred the first season over the second. But even back then, I could see the writing on the wall. And I don't think HBO is the type of network to ever bring a show back.

  • July 27, 2005, 6:51 p.m. CST

    UGG!! Let it die.

    by Russman

    A huge big build up that lead to nothing. What a waste. If it came back I wouldn't watch it.

  • July 27, 2005, 8:25 p.m. CST

    Carnivale was always great

    by Screwdriver

  • July 27, 2005, 9:48 p.m. CST

    I want NAMES!

    by fiester

    Fuck this faceless network bluff. From now on when a show gets cancelled I want the name or names of the people responsible for the final decision. I want ot know who the jackass was who originally cancelled Family Guy, who the dumbfuck is that cancelled Invader Zim...and so on down the line for all these shows. I would like to be able to hold these fucker accountable in some small way.

  • July 27, 2005, 10:10 p.m. CST

    Don't know how how accurate this is.....

    by Biowolf

    But I heard a while back somewhere that Showtime might have been eyeballing Carnivale to pick it up for season 3. Don't know how copyright law would fit in to all that, though. Sure wish HBO would reconsider. Excellent show.

  • July 27, 2005, 11:32 p.m. CST

    I wish...

    by dirkcalloway

    they ended it with Justin dying and Jonesy and Sophie returning safely to the Carnival. Am I alone on this. I loved the show, but if they weren't going to pick it up just end it right.

  • July 28, 2005, 12:12 a.m. CST

    I only heard about the show's cancellation recently.

    by Rogue_Leader

    Man I was pissed about it. I had not been following the news about the TV show too closely. I never realized how weak it was doing ratings wise. Its a real travesty that such great television failed to find an audience while garbage TV like FEAR FACTOR scores big ratings. OH well ...... hopefully things will work out ok in the end and something good will happen.

  • July 28, 2005, 1:28 a.m. CST

    I love Carnivale

    by AshleyMonday

    I love the show but the creator doesn't seem to want to bring it back very soon.

  • July 28, 2005, 8:18 a.m. CST

    wow!

    by fanboyssuck

    I rarely speak out for shows but Carnivale is that rare exception. Among all the really boring network sitcoms and crap like hbo's the comeback, Carnivale was very captivating. It takes a very good show to get my attention and an even better show to keep it. I never "got" the ugly hags on friends, sex and the shitty, or understood the big deal about deadwood. I know everyone is trying to get Carnivale back for this very reason. With six feet under on it's way out, HBO's run of having quality shows on the network will be OVER. And by the time I grow gray hair and see the last season of Sopranos, it will have come and gone so fast. If HBO wants to bury themselves, let them. This entourage and the comeback shit just doesn't cut it. Sorry fanboys. When Sopranos ends, it's definitely OVER for HBO. RIP HBO:SOON

  • July 28, 2005, 10:07 a.m. CST

    the cast

    by fanboyssuck

    You know you have a good cast when most of them outshine the main character(Nick Stahl). Clancy Brown is the man and hopefully this will get him some better roles. I don't know how busy being Mr.Krabs keeps him though. You don't have to have a bunch of big hollywood names to have a great cast and this show proved that.

  • July 28, 2005, 12:41 p.m. CST

    Nick Stahl rocked in this show...

    by MrGreenStache

    I though he was awesome, and really came into his own. But this show had everything that makes me entertained. An awesome and crazy cast, great writing, and a huge plotline that involves everything from Magic to The Mahattan Project.

  • July 28, 2005, 1:43 p.m. CST

    Re: _Maltheus_

    by boast

    I found GvsE on DVD. Look to "an inlet of the sea or other body of water usually smaller than a gulf" that begins with the letter e. Heh!!!

  • July 28, 2005, 4:10 p.m. CST

    Hmm

    by optimus122

    The ratings werent bad at all for the last part of season 2 in fact the finale had almost the same audience totals as Deadwood. The creator has a new show being made for Showtime , a comedy I believe and trust me if he gets the chance we will see more of Carnivale and probably as soon as its humanly possible.

  • July 28, 2005, 5:13 p.m. CST

    There is a reason "quixotic" is one...

    by Childe Roland

    ...of my favorite words. I loved this show, but I really don't think it's coming back. Some suit at HBO didn't get it and convinced some of his coke-snorting A-D-D executive (see the play on acronyms there?) friends that liking the show meant they might be gay, so they axed it in favor of the not-gay-at-all (except in a very Village People sort of way) swearing cowboy show. Because that made them feel like big, strong men to watch. Sad, really. Well written shows just don't seem to have much place on TV anymore (watch - LOST, Rescue Me and all of Adult Swim will be cancelled now). I really hope Capone's crusade will prove me wrong, though. "To dream... the impossible dream..."

  • July 28, 2005, 6:38 p.m. CST

    not a suit

    by fanboyssuck

    Carnivale being cancelled will be one of the worst decisions made by a woman this year. You're right Childe. It is definitely quantity over quality nowadays. Remake after crappy f'n remake and I'm sick of it. That's why Hollywood is getting less and less of my money every year. The only reason I'm keeping HBO right now is because I'm an HDTV nut and seeing the last season of Carnivale and Six Feet Under in HD will be my TV highlight of the year. Any HDTV nuts out here?

  • July 28, 2005, 6:42 p.m. CST

    Remakes:

    by fanboyssuck

    Hollywood and HBO is one big joke when they can't renew one kick ass show. I can't wait until Hollywood is remaking remakes in about 10 years. Isn't it the worst time possible to be a fan of going to the movies? Crap crap crappity crap. Holy shit Batman!

  • July 28, 2005, 8:58 p.m. CST

    This blows massively........

    by Phrog

    Since Carnivale is only available on pay-television up here in Canada and I don't have the extra 40 a month to drop on pay-tv. I waited until season 1 came out on DVD. After watching the first episode I was full blown hooked. I used to be pretty jealous about not getting HBO in Canada. The Sopranos, Oz, Six Feet Under, Curb your Enthusiasm, Carnivale, hell I even like some of Sex in the City (man, ever since Kim Cattrall in Big Trouble in Little China). Anyway, what I was getting to is that with the exception of certain shows on other stations (Lost, Arrested Development, and Rescue Me) all other networks are oversaturated with reality TV, CSI's and Law & Orders (or is it Orderi?). HBO has been putting out top shelf shit since I don't know when. (BTW a DVD version of Dennis Hopper's Witch Hunt would be supersweet!) And regardless of what some douchebag marketing executive says about demographic showing that the IQ of Tee-Vee viewers is dropping like it was tied to an anvil and pushed overboard, so your shows should be less "thinky" more "showy". HBO should be able to say "Fuck you! We're HBO!

  • July 28, 2005, 9:32 p.m. CST

    FREE TOMMY DOLAN!

    by Johnny Smith

    That is all.

  • July 29, 2005, 12:39 a.m. CST

    at the very least...

    by v1cious

    make a final season that wraps up the series. they can't renew this, yet they renew pretty much every other series in last year's lineup? i'm sorry but Deadwood went completely downhill in the second season. only reason anyone's even watching still is cause of the swearing.

  • July 29, 2005, 1:40 a.m. CST

    SIGN THE PETITION

    by RezE11even

    http://www.petitiononline.com/bbcarniv/petition.html

  • July 29, 2005, 2:49 p.m. CST

    Fuck Carnivale. Long Live ROME!

    by ripper t. jones

  • July 29, 2005, 5:21 p.m. CST

    Ripper T. Jones

    by Johnny Smith

    Um, Ripper? How can you be proclaiming the virtues and longevity of a show that you haven't even seen yet? Get lost. In other words, I hate you. www.savecarnivale.org and www.carnycon.com