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V FOR VENDETTA trailer has hit!!!
Okay, only about an hour late, but they've finally posted the trailer! Click below and enjoy!
Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. Me and about 6499 other geeks got a look at this trailer last weekend at COMIC-CON and now they've finally released it online. They said they're launching at 6pm EST, which it is now almost 10 minutes past... the trailers still not up, but the link to the official site is below, so keep checking it until you strike paydirt!
I love the look of the official website's trailer page. Very forkin' cool and just as I'd imagine V's screening room to look like... suspiciously like Harry's house... Does this mean Harry is behind that mask? Well, that'd be a nice twist, wouldn't it?
CLICK IT HERE FOR BALD PORTMAN, FLYING DAGGERS AND WHISPERY HUGO... EVENTUALLY!
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bitches!
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Damn, I realized that I wasn't registered. Trailer isn't up yet.
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It looks pretty awesome, and Hugo's (V)oice is absolutely perfect.
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6:16 EST by my watch. what gives? fucking slackers...
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And it's 6:17 Pacific time here... :(
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WAAAH!
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don't forget your gucci boots too!
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don't forget your gucci boots too!
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Still no trailer...but we'll see how it looks soon enough. I've got some hope for this one. Even with all the naysaying about the script and from Moore. I got faith in weaving and portman. I got shaky faith about the W. Bros....
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Quint's the one who commented on the slo-mo knives thingee, right? Well, regardless of who did, yeah, they should get rid of that shot. It looks pretty goofy. But the rest of it looks interesting. I didn't really get to hear the trailer and I only caught the last 10 seconds or so, so I'm hoping they'll get the thing up by the end of the night.
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Jul 22, 2005 5:32:37 PM CDT
a freakin movie trailer is 30 minutes later...OMG LETZ ALL TEH D
by d8cam
its not star wars...its not something from spielberg...its not a huge epic...so calm down and wait
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...and we wait for V in all his HD glory...
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*30 minutes late
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i want to be entertained when they say i will be.
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Still no trailer!?
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I loved this show during the 80s, glad it's finally coming to the big screen.
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http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/index.cgi?column=litg&article=2193
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Poor little, misguided, uninformed Winky Man
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Anyone else catch that typo?
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Jul 22, 2005 5:51:43 PM CDT
Holy Abstinence Makes the Heart Grow Fondler text command bars M
by neosamurai85
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At least they know that Vendetta begins with a "V." And Winkyman, it's been done.
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Still no dice....
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We're currently on EDT. 6:00 EST is 7:00 EDT.
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you mean, it isn't spelled "reguires?"
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you mean, it isn't spelled "reguires?"
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and it looks like shit. later....
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That's okay. I once thought "laser" was spelled "lazer." But I turned out fine. You'll be okay.
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Jul 22, 2005 6:05:34 PM CDT
Before anyone asks, the opening music was from Equilibrium
by maxcalifornia.
Yeah looks ok, I'll see it. Reminded me a lot of Equilibrium, not just the music.
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Ha the irony...John Hurt up on the HUGE SCREEN yelling at those below....he has become Big Brother!!! Great Trailer can't wait!!!
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Is the 640x360 version the high definition one? Or maybe they just haven't posted it yet?
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actually it does look pretty promising. Hugo's voice sounds spot on. Natalie pulls off a good english accent from what i could hear. The looks of the film has a style familiar yet all it's own. Ok...i'll remember the 5th of november...i give in...for now...
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it wasn't bad, but it wasn't worth an hour wait :)
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He was pretty easy going on the script, don't you think? I expect Rich to be a little more barbed. Want to see a grown up film that handles the ideas this film fudges? Try Brazil.
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Great job keeping the aliens out of the trailer, it just makes me wonder what they're going to look like. I think it's bloody brilliant moving the whole thing to England. I always wondered how the rest of the world was fighting the lizards. Anyone know if any of the original cast like Michael Ironside or Marc Singer has an appearance in this? A great way to update this, looks much better than Bad News Bears. This is how you remake something right!
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As for the trailer? It was ok. I wasn't thrilled. Natalie Portman was good, V kinda seemed goofy to me. I've read the comics so don't jump on me fanboys! He just didn't move right. V's voice isn't like anything I haven't heard either, it's Hugo Weaving talking a little whispier. I'm still hoping for the best though.
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Great job keeping the aliens out of the trailer, it just makes me wonder what they're going to look like. I think it's bloody brilliant moving the whole thing to England. I always wondered how the rest of the world was fighting the lizards. Anyone know if any of the original cast like Michael Ironside or Marc Singer has an appearance in this? A great way to update this, looks much better than Bad News Bears. This is how you remake something right!
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...the trailer's score was taken from Equilibrium. I wondered why it seemed so familiar at first.
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Accept he started it.
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is this a remake or not?
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Jul 22, 2005 6:25:04 PM CDT
Ironic That The Film Uses "Motion Lines" When The Comic Did Not
by flim springfield
Great series, but I don't have high hopes for the movie. And I think a lot of people are going to have trouble with a sympathetic terrorist, not matter how bad the government is in the story.
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Jul 22, 2005 6:26:03 PM CDT
Looks like an action retread of 1984, and that's not the fau
by harry coin
Yes, the graphic novel was literate and complex, but I don't think it put a new spin on your standard future fascism story. It was never my favorite work by Moore, anyway, but not as bad as that graphic novel (or was it limited series?) that featured Nixon's brain as president and Burger Companies controlling South America. That was shite. (What?? I don't think everything Alan Moore has written is a masterpiece? May I burn in hell for my blasphemey)
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Jul 22, 2005 6:28:22 PM CDT
David Icke approves of this talkback. . . alien lizards controll
by harry coin
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That would be a cool release date, now wouldn't it?! Too bad it is a Saturday.
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Or were there? The guy in the mask could have been a lizard in disguise. That would be a great spin on the series, if a totalitarian government came to power on "Lizard Fear," and the resistance was now fighting the government with the help of good lizards like Robert Englund. This trailer raises a lot of questions, but I got to admit I like it. It makes you wonder who you should be rooting for.
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I have the V For Vendetta record and can tell you that Hugo Weaving sounds a lot better than Bauhaus's David J as V.
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No, I would not blow you. It is a "remake" of a comic book called 'V for Vendetta' which has NOTHING to do with aliens or lizards. The joke is about the TV series called "V" starring Freddy Kruger. It had lizard aliens and so forth. The joke is these dudes playing dumb. I thought it was pretty funny, but not after I explain it.
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More colourful that I thought considering the art I've seen from the comic. But hell, I'm there!
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There should be a heavy atmospheric look to the film. It should be thick and steamy and evocative of the graphic novel. This movie looks too clean. And what I mean by a heavy look, they only example I can give off the top of my head is Das Boot, where Jost Vacano filled every shot with smoke before shooting. It gives the film a look that you can almost feel with your fingers. But oh well, they shot what they shot, and it's too late to do anything about it. I don't like Hugo Weaving's voice either. It doesn't have that touch of madness I heard in my head when reading the book.
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I like it, looks nice.
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Some will rember him for his 19th century classics...I on the other hand will remember his quirky talkback contributions.
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and sorry for ruining the joke.
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Jul 22, 2005 6:51:06 PM CDT
how many more slow-mo cgi knives/swords do we need to see flying
by shiny_spoon
although i did like the john hurt with adolf hitler hair.
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Alan Moore didn't write the book you think he did... sounds more like Third World War or Give Me Liberty.
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That's all I'm saying.
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Jul 22, 2005 6:59:52 PM CDT
noticed a scene in the trailer where it look like V walking in t
by johnno
Looks kinda like when Neo entered the government lobby through the revolving door before the ass kicking began. Think we'll get another one of those? :D A lil 'omage maybe... Technically when you think about it, Neo, Morpheus and co. would be classified as terrorists...
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"Do you understand everything I have just told you?" "Yes." "are you ready to cooperate?" "No." Only good part. I wish this movie were about Natalie Portman...having sex with me.
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All good fiction will reflect the time in which it's written. The best will also reflect the time in which it's read, whatver that time is. Rich Johnston - him again - was spot on about Moore's book though. There's no questioning him on that. Mr. Coin - I agree that some of Moore's produce has been... lesser than the rest.
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...other writers are copying his style.
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Lame
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And with London looking less like it was generated inside a PC with the controls set to 'shiny'. The art in the original was grimy and bleached out and , to be honest, shit. But at least it looked like London. Which is grimy, bleached out and shit.
"What was done to me was monstrous" - don't like the implication of that. Are we going to see more of the original incarceration of V and therefore more of his identity? Hope not. Also the thing about killing hundreds of thousands of people - really sounds like an unnecessary bit of plot thrown in there. Hugo Weaving - he sounds like he's talking about throwing this fascist government back INTO THE FIERY CHASM FROM WHENCE IT CAME. I would like V to have a thick Brummy accent. Timothy Spall for V!! And what was with those shitty cop badges? I hate how in movies, fascist governments always use the SAME logo in all branches of government. OK the Nazis had the swastika but for example, the SS had those wacky lighning bolt letters. Not these guys - one weird red grid thing is good enough for everyone. Pretty much the best bit was when he had a bomb strapped to himself. Fucking hilarious. Good timing releasing that today guys! -
It just seemed to slick. I would've loved a David Fincher look ... or Batman Begins look to this movie. The comic does take place in a present day, but the art direction makes it seem like its set in an older world. V looks kinda ridiculous in the world they've put him in.
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If I haven't read the comic, should I wait until I see the movie?
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Should make for good after-movie discussions. Are "evil" and "terrorism" relative?, etc.
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Read the comic! Oh yes!
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finally! finally! im a talkbacker!!!!
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its obviously massive budget...but the way its lit seems like its hiding low production quality. though, it could be my computers color balance. the knives look worse than those in elektra (relax, i snuck in, and only for the last 15 minutes waiting for a movie i wanted to see) but the shot of the mask going on ruled.
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Timing of the release of this trailer could have been sooo much better.... yes life needs to go on, and yes, we can't allow ourselves to adjust... but a trailer for a film about a terrorist/freedom fighter in the UK operating on a cell basis, of polar fundamentalist views, and featuring a man with explosives strapped to his waist and primed to go? Nice timing.....
Film, however, looks 50-50 - shiny London looks more like the contents of the Matrix than the run down shitehole it should look like, but any movie with a who's who of the British theatrical royalty, led by the god-like John Hurt playing the antithesis of his Winston from 1984 (oh, that irony is both juicy and delicious) has got to be worth a look.... just wish they could have found someone British to play V... love Weaving, but I am concerned they will make him an Agent Smith-a-like rather than the V of the book.... -
THEY WERE TERRORISTS! the first film says it openly. i kept hoping theyd use that as a mind fuck at the end of part three.----they destroy the matrix people wake up to a destroyed earth and the heros realized they killed g-d, because the matrix could easily have been a metaphore for g-d. i had a whole essay on how it should have ended...but i think i deleted it on accident.-----point is, the brothers pussied out on that.
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Nothing like a movie where the protagonist blows up most of London because he doesn't like the government. Will the sequel be "J for Jihad", morons?
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I think it's the compression at least - watching it on a 23" HD LCD set to 1920x1280, and the bright stuff looks brilliant, but there's horrendous digital swarming in the blacks or anything slightly dark. Anyone else? I'm a little amazed they bothered with an HD trailer if it's going to look crappier than the SD.
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They didn't relocate the flick or load it up with American actors (not that there's anything wrong with that!). Haven't read the GN for a long long time, but i reckon the Matrix Bros are back on track. they are batting above 50% for me. Matrix 1 and Bound = bloody good. Matrix 2 = rollercoaster. Matrix 3 = pure duck shit.
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the film has been in production way longer than the London bombings. And even then, so fucking what? Get your panties out of a twist you git.
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the stuff neo is searching on his comp in the beginning of the first showed morpheus as a terrorist and smith asks neo to help bring a "known terrorist to justice" meaning morpheus. trailer looked cool, a little uner lit true, keeps me interested, the bombs on the chest makes me really interested how they are going to tackle the whole terrorist thing, the whole gov't killing 100,000 people makes it sound like an easy excuse for it though, im rambling
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Comic book films peaked a couple of years ago. Gentlemen, welcome to the dregs.
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If we can't make movies where people of questionable motives and character blow shit up and kill innocent people without some sensitive twat crying about London and 9/11 then the terrorists win.
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First you complain about the "timing" of the film, showing you clearly do not have any knowlege of the concept of pre-production; then when you get called out for your stupidity you quickly change your complaint to "They only do shitty comics now." with Superman on the horizon. Just shut up before you further embarrass yourself.
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http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/1694/trailercap354za.jpg --- give me that Oscar damn it! --- http://www.ritzfilmbill.com/images/sb-screen-shawshank.jpg
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I own the original "V for Vendetta" comic books, and I've been keenly aware of the Wachowski brother/sister's production. And yet, the timing STILL sucks. Relax, fanboy.
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crying like a twat and showing a modicum of decency - this film was in production long before these arseholes decided to set off bombs left right and centre, and if I remember right, there were bombs doing just that when the original GN was released
I don't think we should change our lives - hell, I have been on the receiving side of 3 near calls when the IRA ramped up again in 96 post Canary Wharf - thanks to the boys in the Bomb squad I am here typing this. I lost friends to the troubles, lost another in the towers on 9/11, but the last thing I would ever do is advocate changing lifestyles and what we do because there is the remote chance you may be on the end of a madman. I do, however, think there could have been a delay of 2, maybe 3 days in releasing this trailer - at least give a decent space after the activities of the past 48 hours -
I'm sure the cast of Dawson;s Creek will blow Reeve and Hackman right out of the water.
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HOPE!
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You are the one who read the comics, and you're calling me a fanboy? Remeber what i said about embarrassing yourself. When you assume... something something... you're a jerk.
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But wait until the media gets a hold of this film. Morons like O'Reilly will have a field day pimping their "pro-London Bombing movie scandal". I'm not faulting anyone (except perhaps the islamofascists who can't help but ruin everyone's good time)
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Jul 22, 2005 9:32:22 PM CDT
So I'm not the only one who heard the 'Batman Begins'
by xxmr_bojanglesxx
...Warner Bros. is already rehashing certain elements of a movie that just came out A MONTH AGO? Damn, they just don't WAIT anymore, do they?
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Gets punched in the ovaries. And if you are bitching, you're a goddamned woman with ovaries. I waited a good 2 extra years for Phone Booth because some dumb motherfuckers can't except that we live in a world with terrorism, and that once in a while a movie might come out that touches on it.
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http://www.aintitcool.com/tb_display.cgi?id=20805#946553 That's him, that is.
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Jul 22, 2005 9:57:22 PM CDT
Morons like O'Reilly will have a field day pimping their "pr
by bulldoggie
. . .Smallberries is 100% correct about that dudes. The idiot media is gonna bury this movie . . . kinda reminds me of what happened to Boondock Saints.
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...I tend to think of a 250 lb do-rag wearing black woman. To me that would work better than a smiley-face-wearing knife-thrower. Just Vendetta and her rolling pin. After being held down too long by the Man, she decides to cut loose with a righteous fury. In the end she could get her sisters Shondetta, Cloretta, and Velvetta together to stomp a giant mudhole in whitey's ass.
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Jul 22, 2005 10:34:22 PM CDT
This will be the movie version of the 'Muhammad Hassan'
by negative man
Poor guy lost his job playing the role the writers wrote form him all because of bad timing. Movie looks good at this point. I just hope it's not too heavy handed preachy.
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bald or not, she could hold my gems any day.
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Bulldoggie what happened to boondock saints
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What is the statute of limitations between the time when some event happens and the moment where we can safely view media vaguely related to said event without fear of hurting anyone's sensibilities? Besides, as someone who never read the comic and has only seen the trailer once, I didn't make any connection with terrorism. I mean there's some guy in a goofy mask blowing shit up, Natalie Portman is apparently undergoing chemo-therapy and there's a voiceover guy with an accent whose identity was nagging at me until I read who he was in the credits. That's all I got from it. People don't need to be treated like Fabrege eggs, especially not now.
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Jul 22, 2005 11:35:26 PM CDT
Hey AaragorNeo007, check out the most ambitious set of nuts on t
by i dunno
Spamming makes the baby Jebus cry.
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Jul 22, 2005 11:41:23 PM CDT
To the moron who thought they were stealing the Batman Begins sc
by freakemovie
The Two Towers has a remix of Requiem for a Dream, remember?
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a bit off-topic but a bit relavent all the same . . . Boondock Saints came out (about)the same time as the Columbine mass murder. I always accepted this as the truth in regards to it's troubles with distribution and studios; as my last post would indicate. However in the last 90 minutes I've watched "Overnight" and now understand the "real" story. Wicked film guys, best Doc I've seen in a long, LONG time. Harry- you shoulda got this one up-in your DVD picks! "V" looks good IMO, but the idiot press is gonna make it seem like the propaganda it should'a beeen in the first place. Sad really, Imagine the day BladeRunner becomes politically incorrect . . .
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I'm well aware of that. I just haven't seen it done with such a recent movie as 'Begins', or any recent flick for that matter. Relax buddy.
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vanilla ice...you know this to be true,brother!beer!
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this looks really really terrible. i can't believe this was made into a movie. that was one of the most pathetic trailers i've watched this year. terrible.
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...Zorro. Is it just me or does it look like a modern day Zorro albeit with a mask (with the moustache natch?). He leaps around with his shiny cape and hat but instead of a sword he has daggers. And no horse. Where's the horse? Anyway, I digress...trailer looks realtively okay. It seems nicely shot and I particularly like some of the dialogue. Casting seems pretty damn good as well (as a person who's only had a passing interest in the comics). From what I've seen the Production Design during the political rally's look a bit shoddy but that's about that I guess. Not too much point in critiquing the film based on the trailer but as trailers go I'm not clamouring to see this film...even though I will end up doing so.
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Jul 23, 2005 12:52:52 AM CDT
They do recycle music all the time. LOTR used the Requiem For A
by mr. profit
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... Than the last (2) Hollywood/Alan Moore based CRAPTACULARS put TOGETHER.
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Jul 23, 2005 12:54:49 AM CDT
And this terrorism hysteria is getting crazy. Now they are doing
by mr. profit
So basically I woke up today and it was "1984".
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"SON OF THE MASK", this movie looks like steamed shit. weak "matrix-like" knife effects, ooh, how original! hey, Wachowski's drop off the face of the planet. will ya?
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do I need to watch the HD trailer without suffering an epiletic fit? Apple needs to optimise it's Windows codec like a muthafucka. My PC ain't no slouch, yet I feel like I'm looking at a flipbook when I try to watch one of their HD trailers.....
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Dude, you aren't stupid, you just missed the TV series "V" back in the day. You might not have even been born or you were outside doing something useful. Stupid? No.
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A for Amateur, D for Derivative, G for Goofy, and most definately F for Flop.
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Could "The Businessman" be any more of a direct rip-off of "The Matrix"? Do something original.
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So I looked up this "V" television series, sounds like it was pretty cool, but it ran from 83 to 85 I believe. I was born in 87 so that kind of explains why I had never heard of it, oh well.
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i heard they use the theme from DRAGON: A BRUCE LEE STORY in some trailers for inpirational dramas...
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looks pretty bad. have you no shame? if you are going to pimp at least make it half decent.
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thats what he'd look like
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...they did a DAMN good job of hiding it in the trailer. The tone looks fine; the casting is classy and British in the main; there are a few clumsy lines, (but Hey, it's a movie); and it looks very action-y. I'd have liked to see more fire and chaos at night, though. But I can't deny; I feel hopeful. I really do.
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V is supposed to have aliens damnit!
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The Businessman is to The Matrix as Carnasaur is to Jurassic Park. You remind me of a friend of mine who once said "We should do something like 'Supersize Me' but instead of McDonalds we could use Wendy's or Burger King". Do something original.
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That holiday movie called The Businessman made me laugh so hard It got me into a fit.
The person who operated the Hi8 thingy should make a career change and go work at the carwash for the rest of his life.
What's next? A lightsabre fest in a garage?
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Not simply because it's a matrix rip off, but the camera work, the audio, the cinematography and especially the acting (the main test of a directors compatence), are all absolutly terrible.
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its blades again: swords and knives and kung fu... why can't an action hero use a gun anymore? I know this is the way the orignal comic is, but no doubt thats why this movie was made in the first place. Its another story where a guy uses various sizes of blades and seems to be against using any kind of modern weaponry. Im tired of that. And Kung Fu is really getting tiresome too. I guess they can get a pg-13 easier that way. But I think it has something to do with political correctness too. Its gun-control for the screen.
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1. When actors are not experienced: use 'listening shots' in your edit. Dont't show the actor who's talking all the time.
2. Hire a cameraman who knows how to set up a scene.
3. Use light! Existing or brought in. And try to shoot at magic hour. It works like... magic.
4. Don't use male actors with pony tales or fixed mullets.
5. If you wanna shoot an ode to your favorite movie use the 180 degrees aproach.
6. In post make the film as long as the material allows you to. Less is more.
7. In post hire someone who can make MiniDV look like film: use After Effects!
8. When in film school think film and not movie.
9. Watch and learn. Watch and learn. Watch and learn. From others and from DVDs. I read an interview with the director of November. Find it and read it!
10. When your low budget is finished plug it modest. COME IN PEACE!
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It LOOKS good, but tons of movies look good and suck the sweat of a grown man's balls in the end. I think the cast will nail it (looks promising so far). The only letdown could be the script and fucking things up royally.
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Jul 23, 2005 5:43:54 AM CDT
yeah it looks pretty good and i agree with Hollywood_Bob. The Jo
by curryice
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But I don't recall V ever having a bomb strapped to him. When I said I thought that bit was the best I was serious - this whole terrorism debate on here is boring. The whole point of V's terror campaign is his line about "Governments should be afraid of the people". I mean he's out to smash a fascist state for fuck's sake, not kill innocent people on the Tube. I feel like a lot of times when stuff gets pulled or altered out of 'respect' it's more done out of fear of the media and how shitty tabloids will react. People in London have been putting up with bombing campaigns for 30 odd years and getting on with their lives. This 9-11 style hand-wringing we've seen in some elements of the media and that werenotafraid.com bollocks - that isn't the way Londoners really feel. I'm just waiting for the first newspaper to call this film 'Sick!. My money's on the Sun. PS has anyone been to iamfuckingterrified.com? - pretty funny stuff
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are a tough crowd to blow. Some are smart, and some are okay. Whoever(s) mentioned Icke and lizard people earlier is (some) bada$$ (folks). V looks interesting, but I could do without the knife trails. Knives that produce Akira crotch rocket taillight after-images make no sense.
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I strongly doubt it. The cultural vandals at the BBFC will piss and moan about the violence. And arbiters of the Nanny State will be upset by the timing of a film where the protagonist is a terrorist and the enemy, Government. A sentiment which might prevail due to the very real threat off bombs going off on the streets of London. Ironically, the present political situation may give this film an edge it doesn
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Jul 23, 2005 6:49:57 AM CDT
It's stupid to think the same iconography whould work on Bri
by kuryakin
The Hitler haircut, the scary logos and insignias - even in an extreme depression/post-nuclear holocaust people would still go " Hey you look like Nazis" Much more believable that we would have some kind-faced moderate as the frontman - the smiling face of fascism. Kind of like a more handsome Sean Pertwee in Equilibrium or indeed, Big Brother.And anyway, wasn't the point of the government in V that they were faceless - the voice of the Hand or whatever? Even though it was written in the 80's it seemed so old-fashioned what with everyone listening to the radio and stuff - now we have big Nuremberg rallies and shiny jackboots. Wachowski's really have hardons for black leather, eh? Doubt this film will work.
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I was wondering, in the light of recent events in london will this film be pulled quietly from the cinemas?
Does anyone else think this will happen to V for Vendetta?
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Jul 23, 2005 8:07:14 AM CDT
The "BUSINESSMAN" trailer is the funniest thing posted on these
by krullboy
Recipe for trailer. . .add one herpes ravaged Phillippino-Inuit slut from Fresno, mix with two scoops of P Diddy wannabes. . mix with a dork wearing a non-Celebration III worthy Darth Maul cloak...plagarize with music from "Run Lola Run". . .simmer with some shitty "bullett time" effects. . add two glops of "LA Looks" hair gel from the Pat Riley wannabe. . add a pinch of a "BAMF" rage scream. . . use your loan shark uncles's Mercedes as a prop for a freeway chase. . and cook until done. PERFECTO. BUSINESSMAN HAS OFFICIALLY RELEASED COCOLOPEZ AS THE BIGGEST ASSHAT SELFPROMOTER ON THE AICN TBs. . .
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...HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
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Thanks alot! Now I'm missing an important piece of my soul, you non talented wank.
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Trailer is damned cartoonish but definitely more interesting than I had anticipated. Not sure it makes me want to see the movie. For all I know this will be the next JUDGRE DREDD but I'll keep an open mind for now.
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Of course, "V..." was not one of my favorites by Mr. Moore.
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the street's look fake, fake, fake.... Hugo Weaving does look great.
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Wise words.
But I must add that when Osama picked up the mic the world had some idea about what this terrorism was all about, but for now after Indonesia, Madrid, London and even Egypt it all smells like CIA and MI5 trickery to deprive us all from our normal private lives. The world smells like SHIT these days. And at leased this movie will start a discussion that will end the reign of the two B's: Bush and Blair. Fuck them, fuck all christian governments. God (Bush) and Allah (Blair) are gay.
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The film-making is competent for low-budget. That's the important thing. But he should stick to the directing end of things and leave the writing to people who can actually write. Also, stay away from low budget sci-fi. It just doesn't work and amateur actors cannot pull it off. It just comes across as silly and stilted. Take a look at something like "Pi" to see how a low budget flick with sci-fi overtones was done well.
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Jul 23, 2005 1:53:28 PM CDT
Will The Recent Wave of Terrorist Attacks Push England To Facism
by zombiesolutions
lets hope not. the US is all but fucked by the Radikal Republikan Khristian Reich, but you Brits seem so much more together / rational than us. we're relying on you to be the last hold out of rationalism as the western world continues to crumble into fear, hate and madness.
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Are you a film student or a grade school student? Really bro, I'm not being mean when saying that, it's just that you said you've been coming here for years and your surprised at the reactions your spam-posts in every thread are drawing?! WTF? Besides, dissing shitty movies we havent seen yet is a major draw around here. BTW- there were a few "constructive" comments above.
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Are you fucking high? It looks nothing like Pi...nevermind. The Matrix on the other hand- Aragorn, you said it's NOT a ripoff? Are you fucking high?
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i havent read alot of the threads but alot of people dont know what the fuck theyre talking about, the writer of V was a fan of 1984 so it has alot of the same qualities, and im sure not alo of people are aware of Guy Fawkes, who tried to blow up british parliament november 5th 1606. thats why it says remember the 5th of novemeber. its a british holiday that actually is an insult to guy fawkes where they light fireworks and blow up a guy fawkes doll, i was living in england in the 80s and went to guy fawkes show. needless to say read the book or go to the v for vendetta website at shadowgalazy.com
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the site is http://www.shadowgalaxy.net/Vendetta/vmain.html
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you people must be joking like Diana Rules! this is not a remake of the v series from the 80s whoever thinks that is completely retarded, if theyre kidding the need to go out and get some friends to give tem pitty laughs because theyre not funny, time to get drunk
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my first exposure came from a song by John Lennon where he says, in the final line, "remember, the 5th of November" then there is the sound of an explosion. i was curious what that meant and looked it up, where i read about Guy Fawkes and his blowing-up-Parliment ways. i thought the holiday was a celebration of his anarchist position, but i suppose i was wrong. great comic, btw, this V for Vendetta. hopefully the film will do it justice. but i'm not holding my breath.
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Some comments: 1. Liked the use of music. 2. Trailer was well put together. 3. Bad dialog + bad acting = big laughs. 4. Seriously, you've got some comedy gold here, but I don't think it's supposed to be funny. Am I wrong? 5. Cut in close for the fight scenes unless you've got real stuntmen. 6. Burn that cloak and never use it again. 7. Lighting and pancake makeup. Lots of pancake. It's hard to pay attention when you're counting craters. 8. Keep at it, dude. Everybody starts somewhere.
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He just has an image to keep up, you no-lifers wouldn't understand. But imagine his glee - a strip he started twenty years ago in a low-circulation UK magazine about HOW TERRORISM IS SOMETIMES NECESSARY is about to be presented to a world where the powers that be would rather feed the public that 'they're all madmen that hate our freedom'. crap. And I'm Irish, so you can stick your 'racial profiling' up your cuntholes. ****
As for the design, why can't you cry-baby nerds understand that sometimes changes to the source material are a VALID CREATIVE DECISION. GET THE FUCK OVER IT YOU LIVING WARNINGS. Also sometimes THE BASTARD STUDIOS INSIST *cough - Tom Sawyer* cough* -
Are you THAT Don Murphy? If so, I didn't know you were Irish.
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Your butt buddy Sheikh Omar Bakri Mohammed has some messages for you from the religio of peace: n an interview with Reuters, Bakri described Osama bin Laden, leader of the radical Islamist network al Qaeda, as "a sincere man who fights against evil forces."Bakri said he would like Britain to become an Islamic state but feared he would be deported before his dream was realized.
"I would like to see the Islamic flag fly, not only over number 10 Downing Street, but over the whole world," he said."But I think that would be political suicide for the British government if they started to deport and imprison all extremists and radicals," he said.
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That was a great fucking trailer, in my opinion. Wow. I've never read the "V for Vendetta" comic, so I'm only reacting from my gut-level, but that looked intense. I love the fact a movie with the tagline "People shouldn't be afraid of their governments, governments should be afraid their people" is being released. This looks like a far cry from the fatuous, PG-13 films tailor made for the teenage consumer demographic. I think it takes balls to make a film like this right now. I'll be there opening night.
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Further to comments above regarding the use of After Effects to make DV look "like" film - why? Can DV not sometimes be allowed to look like DV?
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You are handling yourself with some serious class in this talkback. Your film "The Businessman" certainly looks like a Matrix ripoff, but it also looks ambitious. Your young and the budget was small, so I would like to see what you will direct in the future. Just make it ORIGINAL, and I think you will be fine.
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AaragorNeo007 make a porno with that fillipina chick.
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My surname is fucking Murphy you fucktard. What did you think I was? Fucking Tahitian? You wanna know how I made it in this fucking business? Not having a name that is commonly given to a household fucking pet. Ribbons? I bet your playing with a ball of fucking wool right now aren't you, you fucking pussified McWeeny lapcat.
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Because I'm not sure if it's Hugo Weaving's choice of voice and accent or what, but it sounds like Liam Neeson.
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Jul 23, 2005 8:06:54 PM CDT
Yes , you would be labelled a terrorist ... that was the point
by lone fox
For those that don't know: In 1605 a group of English Catholics tried to assassinate King James I along with MP's, by attempting to blow up the Houses of Parliament. Catholics were persecuted at that time under the rule of Queen Victoria I, and when King James failed to redress the balance, a group of old time terrorists, led by one Guy Fawkes, took matters into their own hands- and failed. Hence Bonfire Night, celebrated here in the UK every November 5th with fireworks and burnt effigy's of Mr Fawkes atop bonfires. To criticise V for ripping off Zorro et al... you might as well bitch about EVERY damn comicbook movie ever made.
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Jul 23, 2005 8:28:34 PM CDT
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by red lantern
If he didn't write graphic novels more people would know who is and he'd get the respect he's due.
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hey the guy used the term Matrices to describe the Matrix trilogy so he gains at least a modicum of respect. That said I haven't watched his trailer or visited the site. The Guy Fawkes thing - I grew up in a Catholic family and it always pissed me off how Guy Fawkes night was a celebration of his arrest. Fuck that - I'd like it to be a celebration of his attempt to blow up the fucking monarchy. So I liked this aspect of V. Red Lantern - I hope you are joking about the American thing. And classyfredblassy - Jesus, haven't you been called a cunt enough on these talkbacks? Take your racist bollocks and fuck right off.
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I seem to be the only one who CAN'T view The Business Man Trailer. All I get is audio and no video. Of course I never invested in the telephone because I didn't think it would ever catch on, so I'm probably overlooking something incredibly simple. Any help along with the requisite chiding is appreciated.
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...isn't Alan Moore from the UK?
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You could be right, he might have been born in the Ukraine, I don't know for sure. I've heard him talk and he does have an accent, so maybe that's it. My point was that he writes in America now, so that still makes him an American writer in my book. As far as I know he doesn't do stuff in any language other than English.
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Clearly you haven't read Alan Moore's epic poem " Chololthock the Little Daemon" which was written in Aramaic with art by Dave Gibbons. You fucking heretic! Everyone knows Alan Moore's second language is English! Haven't you seen his beard or his 'Pagan' skull rings he wears on his hands? Don't you know he is a true practitioner of the black arts? He even takes sugar in his tea! Jesus how ignorant of true magick can a person be????
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I meant UK as in United Kingdom, specificly England, not the Ukraine.
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Fraud. The defendant intentionally misrepresented a fact (or pretended to know a fact which he did not know); the plaintiff reasonably relied on that representation to his detriment. e.g. Landoasskissian told a fellow talkbacker he could get him a Big Mac and fries. Lando failed to live up to this promise and pretended to have another job rather than do his job. Fellow talkbacker suffers rumblings in his tummy and feelings of betrayal.
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Thanks for the information Kuryakin and Dr. Boll. I guess if he was born in The United Kingdom, that explains English being his second language. Is Aramaic his first then? My African geography is not so good, so excuse me in advance for not knowing what part of that continent the UK is in. He definitely writes in English well though, much better than people who were born here. Personally it doesn't matter to me, a lot of the best Americans were immigrants, they seem to get the concept of what America is better than so many people born here who take things for granted. Sad but true.
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Yes he went to a good school. After his twefth birthday however he was sodomised on a weekly basis by a gym instructor who gave him a rating every time. This was the basis for his "Top Ten " series. Afterwards he was instructed in the ways of magic by arious DC characters who he decided to emulate in his famous "Watchmen" series. Not a lot of people know, however, that the show was originally titled "Boxmen" from his time working in a factory putting together cardboard boxes for the UK Egg Council. A true story you could slip into conversation anywhere in the Uk or Denmark
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I am drunk
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Well excayuuuuuuuse me! Speaking of catty.... All I did was sort of ask if you were Irish. And by "Irish" I meant "from Ireland," not "of Irish descent." No shit Murphy is an Irish surname. Damn do you like to fly off the handle. No wonder Quentin Tarantino kicked your ass.
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A lot of Americans don't realize the terrible conditions immigrants had back home. His story sounds typical of a lot of African refugees, forced sex is still going there with teenagers in countries like the UK so you can believe they appreciate the good old US of A when they get here. It's interesting that he incorporated those real life experiences into his work. That explains why it's so dark too.
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I'll jack around with it, see if I have any better luck. If I have any thoughts I'll post them, for what my two cents is worth. Let me echo those who've said you certainly have guts putting yourself out like that. That characteristic more than anything else gives you a shot at success.
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http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/6290/badassmofo5em.gif
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So, the terrorists will be scared off if the police start shooting to kill eh? Hate to piss on your parade, bub, but they put 5 caps in an innocent Brazillian electrician. Who is now dead. Innocent man DEAD. Which is exactly why the police in ENgland don't normally carry guns. So before you go running your damn mouth off about how pleased you are about anti-terror policy making ALL OF US A TARGET, do your fucking research. God knows if the police had done a better job researching the incident then this guy would still fixing fuses. God, morons really give me the shits... Oh yeah, "V"? Looks all right. Not quite The Matrix, but not Revolutions either. Just ALL RIGHT.
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I didn't see that coming... yellow??!?!?
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I nearly went blind.
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Jul 24, 2005 12:42:03 AM CDT
Harry's love of the "Yellow Bastard" from Sin City has taken
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Jul 24, 2005 12:46:05 AM CDT
that "innocent" Brazilian was under survelliance associating wit
by krullboy
and he spoke English, and had lived in London for 4 years, so no one can came he was a new immigrant that "was not aware of the surroundings". If the cops had shot a 78 year old woman on her way back from Harrod's that would be one thing, but this guy was something entirely different.
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Looks like someone pissed on the website. www.eatabullet.com
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Change it back. Now.
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My eyes....my fucking eyes!!!
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You won top prize then,Well done to all.http://tinyurl.co.uk/x6d8
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I can no longer visit the website as I am allergic to penicillin.
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change it back!!!!
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Yup...the color is still annoying.
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Does this have something to do with the Office of Homeland Security.
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Take a wild guess...
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Austin is in yellow to celebrate Lance's win (or soon to be win). Colors will return to normal Monday night.
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Go Lance Go. #7 is yours.
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Jul 24, 2005 2:03:47 AM CDT
So anyway I was talking to my friend about terrorism the other d
by ribbons
Yeah yeah, it's only temporary. I can dig it. Man was it weird being greeted by that though. So anyway, I'm gonna go hibernate for a while since I think prolonged exposure to this site in its current color scheme is going to give me a seizure.
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I've been cruising the boards and yours is my favorite so far.
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Nooooooooooooooooooooo! BTW...A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court SUCKED. Ya, I said it.
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Judginf from the trailer alone, I've never read the comics, this film looks stupider than shit. That V guy looks like a homo at Mardi Gras. I'm sure it cost a lot of money but it still looked like a cheap B movie. How can anyone take this stupid shit seriously? It looks rediculous..................................................
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That came as a surprise on a Sunday morning. It'll take me a while to get the spat out coffee I've splattered off my screen & out of my keyboard. So, ya goin' blonde there Harry ?
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Naturally it's regrettable when innocent people are mistakenly killed. However, the fellow in question was seen exiting a building which was under surveillance by the police who suspected it of housing terrorists and/or people with terrorist sympathies. Also, the word had gone out earlier that the police had orders to shoot to kill any suspected bombers in a situation where they might harm others. The Brazilian was hailed and challenged by police attempting to make an arrest but decided to flee from them. Not only that, he fled onto a subway train. Fearing the imminent detonation of another bomb, the police did their duty to protect the citizenry and took the suspect out. The fault of the "bad shooting" lies with the victim himself, who frankly should have known better -- especially if he was innocent. The police had less than split seconds to decide on a course of action in order to prevent the loss of many innocent lives. What if they had waited a few seconds more? Maybe his life would have been spared, yes. But if he was carrying a bomb, that would have been enough time to detonate it. As far as I'm concerned, the police handled the situation in the only way possible. Oh, and anyone who writes things like "LIEberal", "Khristian", "DEMONcrat" or "Republikan" is an utter asshat.
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And don'y try to claim Moore as American. You know who you are. You can have U-571, War of the Worlds, and use as many Brits as stereotypical villains as you like, but hands off!
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Jul 24, 2005 3:44:53 AM CDT
If You'd Been Paying Attention, I Think Someone Pointed Out
by diana rules!
So before you Brits and Yanks get in an uproar about claiming him, check your facts. And a guy writing about nazis and alien lizards isn't eactly Shakespeare.
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way to be a good little narc. The Man loves it when you're a tattletale. Keep on loving The Man, he loves you loving him, too. You do realize that you are the very worst kind of American, don't you? Anyhow, I'm a big Alan Moore fan and a big Wachowski Bros. fan and I really don't have a problem with the whole "an uncompromising vision of the future from the creator of the Matrix trilogy" thing. If Moore wanted it, his name would be up there, too. You think he'd take a page from Frank Miller's book and involve himself. That's a common criticism here on the talkbacks, and a ridiculous one at that, but Moore's in more of a postion than any of us to "make his own movie."
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...and that trailer is once again unimpressive. Wanna see something cool check out the first ten minutes of the Devil's Rejects. HOLY SHIT!
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... you may not do the most logical thing. I can't comment on specific details in this shooting of this man in London. A few things to consider, a lot of immigrants to places like the US, UK, Australia and the like come from countries where they fear their police forces, often these countries have police that are corrupt and even frequently murder their own citizens. It's not an easy habit to shake. At best some people are suspicious and sometimes they run from men with guns with plus or minus uniforms - maybe especially uniforms.
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Lando, Lando, Lando... War is Hell, eh? Easy to say. As a 12yr old I went through TWO bomb scares at Birmingham New Street Train station, and having a dad in the employ of the Royal armed forces in the '80's was no picnic, what with the Troubles... A young man pamicked, reacted with fear, and because of that, he's dead. And please don't protest his possible guilt... The MET office have absolved him completely of any blame or part in any terrorist activity, so please don't resort to 'well, why did he run' styled paranoid remarks. Am I against terror? Absolutely. Are the terrorists having a field day with this latest incident, which, I can assure you has scared a lot of freedom loving people just as much as a legitimate terror attack? Absolutely. This is exactly the kind of fear and panic they wish to inspire. I would like to point out that I understand why you won't take my word on any of this stuff- We're strangers, on opposite continents. Try www.bbc.co.uk/news, www.guardian.co.uk, or http://www.marumushi.com/apps/newsmap/newsmap.cfm. Established news sources one and all. A free society means being able to question events with out being branded a 'traitor' or an 'enemy combatant' or whatever buzz term Karl Rove has Bush bandying around this week.
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Alan Moore was born November 18, 1953 in Northampton, England.
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Jul 24, 2005 4:26:05 AM CDT
If the choice is between one man and a train load of passengers.
by lone fox
According to relatives of the man, he was playing 'a chase game' with a friend, and didn't realise the police were serious.
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When I heard about this incident with the shooting in the UK, I remembered what happened to guy called Stephen Waldorf back in the 80's in the UK. He was shot multiple times by police in a case of mistaken identity.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/january/14/newsid_2530000/2530649.stm
At the time he was in a car. Unknown to him, he had a passing resemblance to an escaped criminal. In a chain of particularly tragic co-incidences, a woman in the same car as him was the girlfriend or ex-girlfriend of the guy they were after. Stephen Waldorf didn't know the guy they were after at all - he'd never even met him. Then when they had the car staked out there was a sound that was thought to be a gunshot (it wasn't - no-one had a gun) and this guy was shot multiple times by police snipers. It turned out to be a miracle he'd survived the whole incident. The point here is sometimes the police walk a fine line in these situations and it really does suck when you're on the wrong side of a mistake like this. A police spokesman did apologise about the mistake but said something along the lines that this guy "should have been more careful about who he associates with" but his answer to that was along the line of "how did I know this woman in the car knew this criminal, I'd never even heard of him". Furthermore, he was just seated in the car doing nothing and they shot him. All unlucky co-incidence when it was investigated but still - bad, bad bad for the man who was shot. -
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He was innocent. He has been cleared by the police. I'm sure the police are trawling these boards looking for great minds to enlighten them and provide them with clues but unfortunately, despite the "why did he run?" brigade, he was innocent. Now he's dead because of over-zealous and paranoid police tactics. Tactics earned from Israeli police incidentally. We all know how liberal they are. And Lando - please, your personal insults are lacking in wit. I'd love to read one of scripts sometime but I may have already seen one of them in production. Which episode of Barney did you write?
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Which, if he had been a terrorist with a bomb, would have saved lots of innocent lives. The fact that he was completely innocent doesn't make the actions of the police anything but honorable in what was a very difficult situation. If he had been a terrorist everyone would be complimenting the officers for their quick thinking and specialist training. Attacking the police in this instance is a cheap way to gain political points because you're absolving the victim of all responsibility for the chain of events leading to his unfortunate death. I still say the police did their job, and did it well. They reacted in exactly the right way given the circumstances. A sad side effect of this whole debacle is that the next time something like this happens the police will most likely hesitate and the deliberate wholesale slaughter of innocents may be the result.
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...and the Israeli police tactics you're referring to have thwarted many a suicide bomber and saved dozens -- maybe hundreds -- of innocent civilian lives in Israel.
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Guy's from a place where gun crime is rife: when someone pulls a gun, they mean to kill you. He walks out of a house in the middle of the day. Plain clothes cops pull out pistols suddenly and tell him to stop. He runs. They put 5 bullets in his head. Sorry but this is not the right way to deal with anything
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Jul 24, 2005 5:48:38 AM CDT
Alan Moore is American Now, But He Used To Live In An African KI
by red lantern
Then he defected or escaped. Cool about him being born in England, didn't know that. That must be why he learned English so easily.
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This isn't a warzone. We are not an occupying force. London has put up with bombing campaigns from the IRA for years and not resorted to this. Admittedly the IRA were not suicide bombers but the police in this instance over-reacted and now an innocent man is dead, on top of the innocents who died in the bombings. Yeah maybe I'd be singing a differnt song if the guy had been a bomber, I'll accept that. But I still would be uncomfortable with the tactics
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But Doc, I have to bring back up a point Shan made- Some immigrants come from countries where people in positions of authority, especially police, are to be feared, and when they chase you, you run. And this is a particularly strong example of this- a Brazillian, from a country with problems of police corruption, and, lets not forget, a country that operated death squads through the eighties. Given the background, the decision to flee in panic, while regrettable, is surely insufficient grounds for termination. Put yourself in his background, his shoes. Does the penalty not seem harsh in that light? We have to understand that we don't all come from similar backgrounds, and personal experience differs from case to case...
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I'm not arguing against that. I personally feel that after so many years in Britain he should have known better, but even if that isn't the case and the guy was responding to years of the social and cultural imprint of his homeland, it doesn't mean that the police were at fault. I feel terrible about the mistake made, but I'm also disgusted by people who use the death of this innocent to bash the police. It was a very difficult situation and the police acted the way they should have given the intelligence they had, the possible threat and the actions of the suspect. No matter how much we find out about the victim afterwards, we can't go back in time and retroactively say the cops should have "known better."
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Over zealous? As Doc just said, if he had been a genuine threat... it doesn't bear thinking about. The fact is, in the current climate, running from armed police onto public transport is stupid. The last couple of weeks, travelling on the London Underground, people do act differently. The last thing I want to see right now is someone jumping the barriers, running down platforms. It's foolish behaviour. Unfortunate as the result this time was, the police acted entirely correctly. And I (and the majority of Londoners)feel safer as a result.
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No, Britain isn't Israel, and yes, you've dealt with IRA bombings earlier. However, even you must be able to see the diffent nature of the latest attacks in London compared to the IRA atrocities. Even you have to see that the latest attacks have a lot in common with the kinds of threats Israeli civilians deal with on public transportation. Given these new similarities, I'd say the British police are wise to learn new tactics from foreign police forces with more experience in dealing with this type of threat. I'd be very interested to hear what YOU think the police should have done in that situation.
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Much as I hate to say it, to their credit warnings were given. Their primary aim was to cause disruption. The Islamic fanatics are intent on killing. Suicide bombing is infinitely more of a threat that must be treated differently. They would rather die than surrender, taking as many of us with them as possible. It's a totally different situation.
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Okay. I can see neither of us is making any headway with each other, and thats fine- the bread and butter of democracy, even. Not too comfortable with your disgust- I mean, I don't know if you feel I in particular am 'bashing' the police over this. I'm not trying to score points, I'm genuinely concerned, and my heart goes out to the guy's family, and indeed the officer's involved, who I'm sure acted in good faith, however misplaced I feel that faith was. It was a tough choice, and the road ahead for them will not be easy. If I'm misinterpreting your disgust, and it's directed at someone or something else, then I apologise. There's a distinct difference between reasoned debate on a topic and blatant naysaying. We must be able to discuss these events and moments in history, so that we may learn from them. And we must be able to do so without fear of being branded unpatriotic. "Either you're with us... Or you're against us" is not a phrase that inspires hope in some of us that we are free to question... But I'm rambling now. Agree to disagree?
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No, I wasn't referring to you, and I'm sorry if it seemed that way. I was referring to the worms who on any given day look upon the police as being "fascist" and seize upon an opportunity like this to forward their cause while hiding behind the cynical veneer of "compassion."
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I just feel so bad for the guy. Let's agree to disagree like the above poster said. Can we all agree though that the yellow background is worse than the shitty orange? This site needs a new design altogether. Been the same for 8 years at least
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Yes. Dear God, yes. Don't know if this is a Lance reference (and if it is, great- guy's a giant), but purlease, change it!! I mean, words fail me... For once.
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Jul 24, 2005 7:06:14 AM CDT
I just assumed it was related to Harry's ongoing love affair
by lone fox
Kong wallpaper before, now BANANA yellow... anything for those Peter Jackson exclusives eh?
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..at the utter stupidity of the guy who wrote about giving the IRA credit!Unbelievable.I'd pretty much guarantee the posts with opinions about terrorism above are a)written by 12 year old or b)people not living in London.The climate in London has been generated by terrorism.Short and simple.I feel sorry for the guy shot...er,5 times..but frankly the police are acting as quickly with threats as possible.I'd rather they act like that and put the fear of God in pricks that want to murder women and children than let everyone think they're not acting.The blood of this guy is on the hands of the bombers.Dirt,smelly littl ecunts.Did you see the photo's of these arsholes?Jesus,betthey added something to society,eh?Running from the scene,eh?Not so fucking brave then?Cunts.
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Use this website as weapon to blind them all.....
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....if I miss another episode of Diagnosis,Murder due to these terrorists I'll complain to the BBC.
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Jul 24, 2005 8:16:45 AM CDT
Pazuzu why don't you just go to your nearest police station
by dog of mystery
I think everyone can sympathize with the police for mistakenly killing an innocent man, however challenging the circumstances. But to stifle debate on the appropriateness of their reaction is dangerous. The point is, you knucklehead brain-washed war-supporters had been warned that if you invaded Iraq terrorism would get worse, and it has. I live in London and these bombs are going off on my doorstep, and while we all hate the terrorists for the way they target the innocent, we also remember who got us into this mess.
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I've never heard of this story, and after viewing that trailer, I don't want to.
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I think this is a reference to the Iraq war, where an estimated 100k people have, directly and indirectly, died due to US action.
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...you're spot on.Absolutely fuckin' Spot On!
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But sometimes people are just too stupid to live. If eyewitness accounts from non-security-service Britons have been reported accurately, we have a guy who went out the day after a terrorist bombing wearing a heavy padded jacket in the July heat, and then ran from police, jumped a turnstile and headed towards a subway train. Next time just shoot yourself in the head and save the taxpayers the $1.50 [or its pounds equivalent] than the ammunition cost. When you run from the police, bad things can happen.
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Jul 24, 2005 9:38:55 AM CDT
True Priapic, read my comment re: IRA in the context it was mean
by lone fox
Or continue to be an asshole. Either way. Dog Of Mystery, bullshit. Yes, the London bombings are undoubtedly down to our involvement in the war. Perhaps you can justify the 9/11 attacks also? They were asking for it? It can't be justified. Our presence is required in Iraq. I'm sure you're convinced things would be oh so sweeter if we let the Middle East sort its own problems out, as it has done throughout its violent history. Things sure were better under Saddams regime of mass genocide. From a Londoner, no less.
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Dog, you Mysteriously wrote, "...to stifle debate on the appropriateness of [the police's] reaction is dangerous." I hear what you're saying about the recent shooting, but I disagree that DocPazuzu was trying to stifle debate. He presented his opinion about the situation in a clear, concise manner. How does this stifle debate? If anything, it's promoted debate. Give Doc a break. Also, you don't know anything about Doc's politics. You wrote, "...you knucklehead brain-washed war-supporters had been warned that if you invaded Iraq terrorism would get worse, and it has." I don't disagree that the situation has become increasingly tenuous, and I'm not happy with the way America has conducted its business, but you don't have enough evidence to proclaim Doc is a brain-washed war-supporter. That's disingenuous, black and white thinking, in my opinion. What would you have done if you were those policemen? Shoot or let the guy run?
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... when travelling on the London Underground, when two or three guys suddenly draw guns and order me to get down on the ground as I enter the station, DO NOT vault over the turnstile, DO NOT sprint down the escalator, DO NOT barge my way onto the waiting train and DO NOT get in the way of five warning shots. The poor guy must have had a screw loose or something, because panicky behaviour in a tube station is ill advised at the best of times - especially 2 weeks after a bombing and 24 hours after an attempted bombing. I'm sure this will go on for ever.
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...of allthe times I've come on this site..I honestly don't think I've ever read a more uneducated and immature piece than you just wrote.Take your IRA quote in the context it was meant?Jesus Chr....I ..I just can't believe what I'm fucking reading...I'm taking it you're about 10 and this is your first experience of terrorism...Actually,I don't care...I appreciate the fact there are young people on this site who are just growing and learning.Enjoy your summer break....
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Jul 24, 2005 10:35:10 AM CDT
A link with a good piece for Lone Fox and Anchorite..
by the true priapic
www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/you.html
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I had every intention of keelhauling your ass after reading your post, but there's nothing I can add to what's already been stated by others.
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Much obliged.
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..from the CNN website "..bystanders on the London Underground carriage where the suspect was shot said he was carrying an ilicit copy of an Avril Lavigne CD and had threatened to play it to the the whole carraige.Although not an actual Al-Quida terrorist it is widely thought the damage to the ears of the commuters would have been considerable." HOLY SHIT!!
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...Take Schindlers List.I saw this when it came out with my oldest mate and it was packed solid.Three rows in front,a woman with her old Mother(I'm guessing)were sat and this old bird kept talking loudly through it and I heard her say "He's going to die!" , "She's going to die!" .And it got so bad a middle aged man behind them shook her and said "Please!Be quiet!" .Hilariously,presumably cos she was senile,she kept doing it.Especially the shower scene!I started getting the giggles,y'know the ones that come at most inappropriate times-the fucking unstoppable ones.And then my mate started.And we went through the whole fucking film ROARING with laughter.AT the end everyone got up,in fuckin' mock silence like it was a fucking wake and started slowly walking out into the light.This made it worse,my mate and I were fucking cryin' our eyes out.And the looks...oh,the fucking LOOKs we got from the other viewers outside were..God...it was like we'd raped their daughters or something.This made it even worse and all the drive home we were ROARING.Best laugh at the cinema,ever.Period.
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The combination of your last two posts and telling Dog of Mystery that "You're spot on. Absolutely fuckin' Spot On!" really says everything we need to know about you.
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...let me guess.....humour free area,yeah.In all honesty....I didn't agree with going to war and it's blatantly obvious these terrorist acts are related to that decision.Also,the shooting..albeit,terribly tragic,was somewhat inevitable.Like I said earlier,the blood of that Brazillian is on the hands of the terrorists.Them and Avril Lavigne.
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HE WAS BRAZILLIAN!!!!!!
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HE'S DEAD!!!
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I really think that I'll like this movie despite the crazy mask. I've never read v for vendetta but it seems more mature than the average comic. I love shaved-head, starved looking Natalie Portman as well. Is this the punishment she gets for not doing a good enough performance in SW?
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No, not at all. In fact, I found it hilarious when two heckling skinheads got their asses kicked in their seats during the screening of Schindler's List I attended before they quietly scuttled out the door. I don't suffer cell phones pricks in movie theaters so why should I see the humor in a giggling dick like you disrupting a show? As for your hideously simplistic analysis of the causes behind the terrorist attacks, it's like saying that the reason for the London blitz during WWII was Britain's decision to wage war on Nazi Germany. They brought it on themselves, right? Cretin.
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..Dude,the irony seems lost..you're on a talkback chatroom on a comic being made into a film while logged in under an alias and you're blethering on about the London bombings in an astonishingly naive rant.And at what point was I ever a skinhead or laughing at the film itself?!You're reading what you want to read into things.And when have I said anything about the Second World War.Don't put words in my mouth.Jeez!Fuck me,you Lavigne fans are really fuckin' easy to bite.She's not really a punk,y'know.Sundays are for Last of the Summer Wine and masterbation.You've missed the Wine,so go and wank.You deserve it.Peace.
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Nice try.
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Jul 24, 2005 1:16:21 PM CDT
What's A Military Superpower To Do When It Runs Out Of Enemi
by zombiesolutions
create them, of course. if there's no war, then theres no war economy. if theres no war economy, theres no Military Superpower. and thus you see the logic behind creating the Endless War -- a permanent state of conflict funded and engineered by the Radikal Republikan Khristian Reich and their ex-employees, the US tax dollar funded Al-Queda and their many terror cells. Didn't you know? Freedom for the fat, rich, white overclass isn't free. Usually it means you have to convinve a bunch of poor people to hate and kill each other over over an abstraction such as statehood or religion -- both of which are illusions. an endless barrage of propaganda helps solidify the madness. make sure to program your Tivo. may god have mercy on your souls.
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Why don't you just come out and admit that you think the attacks on September 11 2001 were engineered by the intelligence agencies of the United States? And please, for the love of God, you and classyfredblassy really need to stop with the heinous spelling puns.
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Jul 24, 2005 1:45:59 PM CDT
Thanks Alot Landoasskissian! Now I Have to Type My Inflamatory P
by zombiesolutions
about 15 minutes after you forwarded my posts to the FBI, they came flying thorugh my window, guns abalzing and arrested me! they were all like, "we heard that you post inflamatory remakrs on AICN, and now you are going to get raped at Gitmo!" i was all like, "Noooooo!" but now here I am at Gitmo, you big stinky jerk! you know they only have WiFi in the Kommandnats quarters? once me and Hogan get that radio working, though, we're totally breaking out and we're coming to get you! oh, please make sure to forward this to the FBI too. i'm sure they LOVE getting anonymous "tips" from "patriots" living in a FANTASY LAND. retard.
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...Holy God are those Sideshow Collectible figures dreadful or what? I don't know whether to cry most for the sad fucking anorak geek who buys a "Peter Jackson as corsair" and "Krycek" figure, or for the fact that Sideshow Collectible's "Connor McLeod" figure looks more like Steven Seagal in Sudden Deadly Death Fear Ground Revenge or whatever his latest opus is (help me out here, Vern). It's just sad. Hobo fucking clown sad.
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I would call my version of this "V" for Viagra and cast the oldest dude I could find in the title roll. Stephanie Swift in the Portman role too. I'm still working-out the cast to the Fantastic Foursome . . .
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Jul 24, 2005 1:57:53 PM CDT
DOC -- No, Not The Intelligence Agenices -- They Were Trying To
by zombiesolutions
and the White House ignored warnings about Osama and Al-queda, and New York, and "planes flying into buildings"? remember: they were too busy planning the Iraq war at the time to worry about idle threats from their ex-employees. sometimes "planning" means conventiently "looking over" certain details. the ends justify the means? won't be the first time. the 9/11 attacks were the greatest thing to ever happen to the Bush administration and the Radical Republican Christian Reich er Right. of course, conspiracy theories are for fools... unless they're true, of course... (you have to admit that theres quite o bit o mystery behind the whole thing, doncha? but oh, come on Doc, "Radikal Republikan Khristian Reich" is great! it's so perfect! a little cyrillic, a little fall of the weimer republic? all your favorite cartoonish facist syntacical stylings! give it up for hyperbole! your a comic fan, where would comics be without overt exagerration?)
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..dude,Jenna Jameson HAS to be Sue Storm.Whatever happened to Julie Ashton?She's fuckin' dirty.Christ,some of the pounding she took in her ass is frightening.Jeesus,FOR FUCKS SAKE...Wilder's Wonka is on and I'm fucking sick of that oompa loopa song.Red....mist..descending........A friend of mine in New York saw Jameson at a convention and said she was gross.Shame....shame...she's only 30 something,she looks about 45.That's what fucking does,I tell ya.
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Not that you would know.
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it's not exactly the most healthy lifestyle on earth. they age in dog years. the guys do alright though. Ron Jeremy looks like a 78 year old zombie fatfuck hedgehog now, but that's because he is a 78 year old zombie fatfuck hedgehog.
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...Venereal disease? How else do you explain Portman looking like an AIDS patient? They shave her head? Thanks for ruining the joke! *friendswithbenefits.com*
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It's a "hard" life I guess. I was thinking about using Misty Rains for Sue Storm. I had the pleasure of her sitting in my lap a few years back and she actually looks BETTER in person! Julie Ashton would be good but she's been ruined by working for E!, I need desperate young starlets or old hags that never got paid for my fantasy Blockbuster 2 Porn company . . .Maybe we can bring Savanah back from the dead . . . or I could use that little slut from BUISNESSMANTHEMOVIE, someone get her people on the phone!!
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You're right!I have found it extremely difficult to find a woman who can love a blind,black,jewish man who's wheelchair-bound because of my wooden legs.Losing my hand due to a freak accident in a steel works hasn't helped,nor has my criminal record record for masterbating in Church.But hey,if you can be accepted for your child molesting past I'm hoping there's a good ol' gal out there for me.
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Dude,just please don't use Nina Hartley.She's waaaayy too old.Perhaps coax Traci Lords back into the grot business.Either that of Britney Skye-she's kinda cute.
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Britney Skye- Susan Storm
Ron Jeremy(in orange make-up) Thing
Reed Richards- any dude with post-production CG wang effects
Me- Johnny Storm (you know, for cost-cutting reasons)
Midori- Alica Masters (my version needs a little flavor too) -
Again.
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Jul 24, 2005 2:50:26 PM CDT
Hey Landoasskissian -- Is Karl Rove Guilty of Treason Too? Seei
by zombiesolutions
ouch. of course, he'll get off, because he is in the Reich. he is the Goebells of Imperial Amerika under Donkeyboy Dubya and Darth Cheney. btw, did they ever find out who the sugardaddy was who hired the gay prostitute and gave him security clearence into the white house? you KNOW Rove is a flaming, closeted, self-hating queen -- sort of like Roy Cohn, Adolph Hitler and the cross dresser who started the FBI.
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. . .he's amused me all morning, and what the fucks the matter with "jumping from thread to thread" you should relax and click the scarlet link he provided!
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gotcha. I'm not in trouoble for posting thoughts on my Fantasy Blockbuster 2 Porno Company am I? Cause that would suck. Not as bad as BUISNESSMANTHEMOVIE, but suck all the same . . .
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Rove is responsible for that woman being outed. Plan and simple fact. Everytime anyone defends Rove=, they lose any credibility they my have garnered previously.
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Does anyone realize they are posting on a Talkback for a film that uses exactly this concept? Both sides seem to think that the other shouldn't even be talking. What if you people had the power to enforce your wishes? Would anybody else have the freedom to talk? You should all READ V For Vendetta. I doubt even if you did most of you understand it. Maybe you thought it was cool cause someone was blowing up shit and wearing a mask. Maybe we're all too spoiled. After all, Moore was kidnapped from England and made a sex slave in Africa before escpaing to America. So he has seen first hand a totalitarian state. That's why people write about their experiences, so the rest of us don't HAVE to live them.
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Jul 24, 2005 7:17:19 PM CDT
Sorry Anchorite, My Braindeath Notwithstanding, Karl Rove Is Gui
by zombiesolutions
this isn't a crackpot theory -- this is the LAW. the man outed and put into jeopardy a foreign CIA operative -- ostensibly for refusing to falsify intelligence reports (an integral part of the plan to invade Iraq by any means necessary). Rove wanted revenge for this, and therefore sought to blow their cover and "out" them -- bascally as a way to silence them, and put them into a situation of extreme danger. you know -- he was trying to get them "disappeared". this makes him guilty of treason. considering these facts, he should, at the very least, be dismissed. at the very worst, well... you do know what the punishment for treason is, don't you? think real hard.
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Jul 24, 2005 7:46:09 PM CDT
Lando anyone who has read your posts knows you are a bullshitter
by tonywilson
Is that why you like Rove so much? You can't mount a solid defence of what he did. He sold out one of his countrymen. Yeh your brother works in the military and you in the movie business. But when it suits ya, you are a college lecturer. You can't even remember your own bullshit. I'm starting to agree with Childe Roland, you are actually a parody. It's very well done.
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Jul 24, 2005 7:52:00 PM CDT
Landoasskissian, You Can't Possibly Expect Me, Or Anyone Els
by zombiesolutions
lets say that you even know who i am, which you don't. and lets say you have top security clearance at GI JOE headquarters, which, somehow, i doubt. please explain to me how ANYTHING i have written makes me guilty of treason, or is illegal, you fucking retard. oh, and wheres the "tort violation?" i suppose you've had Michael Moore, Howard Zinn and Noam Chomsky locked up for similar crimes as well? perhaps some writers on the Simpsons? Seriously, man, i realize you must be either 13 years old, or a 52 year old obese virgin, but, maybe you should seek professional help? Just a suggestion. Oh, btw, Karl Rove is guilty of treason, so stick that in your tinfoil hat and smoke it, you pusilamous wanna-be brownshit wanker. oh, btw, if you want to continue threatening me, i'll be more than happy to contact my attorney. thank you.
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ZombieSolutions may be a dork, but your "threats" are truly sad. Besides, he's not doing anything illegal.
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Jul 24, 2005 8:08:36 PM CDT
So are we going to make bets on Lando's age or just his ment
by cod profundity
I actually think he's in his late 20's, dead end job. Probably got passed over for promotion by a Gay guy so hates them. Feels so insecure about his religious beliefs he has become a zealot to mask it. His brother is in the army though. He's one of the cooks. Any want to add anything to this? It's a shame lando can't be carved up because he's "owned" by about 6 people on this board. Cue some ridiculous comeback from lando - "blah blah traitors...blah blah I have a tiny penis...blah blah...i make up crap on a fucking movie tb to make myself feel better...blah blah wheres the gun time to end it..." Or words to that effect.
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I'm a sophomore in college and never really knew what a "liberal" or a "conservative" is. If I had to base it on what people are posting, it seems a "conservative" has well thought out logical posts and a "liberal" calls someone names when he doesn't like what the person has said rather than respond to his posts. I don't know know if either said has their facts straight, but it seems the conservatives are playing fair and the liberals will do anything to win.
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Jul 24, 2005 8:14:09 PM CDT
"As a US citizen, I have the right to report any suspicious acti
by docpazuzu
Exercised improperly, it just makes you look like an ass. Voicing dissent does not make him a saboteur. Do you report everyone on this board who has a differentt opinion than you or just Americans?
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Jul 24, 2005 8:15:55 PM CDT
Rove fucked up big time. Accept it. Can't wait to see GW dro
by cod profundity
Hahaha yeh a spy's husband outed her. Mmhmm, he just thought his wife was having too much fun did he? fancied putting his wife in danger you know just for fun? You are fucking ridiculous Lando.
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Lando is a republican. He's the one calling names and near having an embollism on these talkbacks. Course you clearly know where you stand you are just trying to sound impartial to score points. Nice try. Nevermind though
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Jul 24, 2005 8:22:40 PM CDT
How on god's earth can you get to be a second year in uni (s
by tonywilson
By being pretty stupid or self obsessed.
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I don't really know much about politics and am not trying to pretend that I do. Since I don't know where I stand, you probably should tell me since you have it figured out. I try to keep an open mind and freely admit that at the age of 20 I don't have it all figured out. Apparently you feel I should. The name calling I was referring to was questioning a poster's mental state, his age, his supposed dead end job and so on. Just for pointing it out, I'm now apparently on "that" side according to you. Again, I don't know the facts, but if I based my opinions on how you guys debate, one side seems a bit more distastfull than the other already.
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Jul 24, 2005 8:32:07 PM CDT
Transcript of Lando's call to the FBI or whoever he called
by cod profundity
RING RING RING
"Hello, FBI public line. How may help.
"Hello, yes it's Landoasskissian here, I've got some more information on suspected traitors for you"
"Just one moment sir." (call being put on hold)
"Hey Skinner, we got that shit for brains Lando on the line, he says he has info on Un-American activities
"lando you say, hahahaha, excellent I need a good laugh, put him through let's humour the retard, but next time tell him to fuck off so we can spend out time doing something worthwhile" -
If you use the AICN TB as a source for forming opinions about American conservatism vs liberalism and everything in-between, then you really are a hopeless case.
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OK, what sophomore isn't self obsessed? Apparently you go to or went to a different university than I do. I hate to break it to you, but for most of us saving the whales or converting people to religion or whatever is not top priority. It comes waaaaay below classes, partying, getting laid, working a job (for some of us) and so on. As to stupid? Well, I'm in college BECAUSE I want to continue my education. I happen to be a liberal arts major and not a lot of this shit comes up. OK maybe my major is indicative of my stupidity, but I was referring to the political uses of those words. I understand english. Now if you feel I should know the difference when I didn't even vote in the last election (yeah, I'll admit it), you may be right. But you'll be shocked to find out that with a lot of other people my age this is more true than not. So you just have an entire generation of idiots on your hands. I guess people were more informed back in the good old days.
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Jul 24, 2005 8:36:56 PM CDT
Winky, first of all don't go basing your assumptions on any
by cod profundity
If you look back he has posted some fantastically stupid things on here and on other TB's. Like nuking the whole of Iraq to stop terrorism. In all seriousness he posted that not as a joke. He also thinks gays are immoral defilers because anal sex is unnatural yet he thinks getting a bj is fine. I'd read around some more. But please don't base your views on a AICN tb.
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I'm english so maybe we have different values or whatever. Uni was all about having fun and getting laid oh yeh and er studying. But I was politically aware from at least 16, ive voted in both general elections as did practically everyone I know. Like I say I'm english so maybe it is much less in your face in the US, although from these TB's I find that hard to believe. But yeh like Cod said don't base any political views or ideas from a movie site TB.
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The men in the white coats are just round the corner buddy. One tiny little prick of the needle and you can go back to la la land.
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Not all the time I'll grant you. But you lie. You get insanely defensive when someone disagrees with you and you have a pathological hatred of liberals. You are not to be reasoned with you are to be ridiculed.
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The pair of you make your respective sides look like extremist arseholes.
Cod you just insult him and make yourself look daft. Lando you are so aggressive it gets boring and stops people listening to any good points you do make. I'm younger than both of you and you both act like kids. -
Jul 24, 2005 9:05:54 PM CDT
Lando any points you make you immediately discredit them with sh
by tonywilson
Honestly hardly anyone takes you seriously because you talk bullshit a lot of the time. You've lied about your jobs on here. Not for comedic effect either. You have made dumbass suggestions about Gays and about Iraq. And you have been serious about them. Sure you are funny and good at insulting people but your reasoning leaves a lot to be desired Cod doesn't want a debate with you because you don't wish to listen to anyone else. So what's the point in debating?
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I'm not using AICN as a source to get politically informed. I was just saying IF I did I would have reached certain conclusions. I find politics boring, and would much rather waste my free time at AICN than in a political chat room. Tony, I've never been to England, but it sounds like you are interested in politics much earlier than we are over here. Maybe you have a better system of education or something. I just know most people I know my age didn't vote here in the last election, and I think that's pretty normal in my country. All I was saying was, one side of this debate seems to like to throw around words like "retard" to describe the other and that makes me lose respect for any point he is trying to make. If I HAD to attend a political lecture by someone posting here, I'd go to the one who seems to have well thought out arguments, doesn't resort to personal attacks and has a sense of humor (especially a self-deprecating one). Does anyone really believe Lando is having a statue carved of him? I realize I don't know the history of people's past posts here, I just wanted to point out how it was coming across to someone reading this particular thread. It doesn't mean I buy into the arguments of one side over the other. Although as was already pointed out, just by doing that, I was told it's "obvious where I stand." Now I ask you, is that sort of tactic going to make me MORE or LESS receptive to said person's point of view?
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Jul 24, 2005 9:14:39 PM CDT
Winky, as I said you need to get the context of anything Lando i
by tonywilson
He trolls looking for fights a lot of the time. Yeh he gets some people (Cod) riled up and they start flaming him. But he spreads some disgusting hate speech that is designed just to get attention. They are both pretty sad really. Sorry to call you stupid or self obsessed, but over here that's what you'd have to be to not know much about politics at the age of 20, like I said different systems or values. Anyway my last thing to say is, please don't go down the path of thinking politics is all boring or that either side are retards. Politics affects everything you do, so in turn you must effect it. You can only do that by getting informed and getting out there.
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Jul 24, 2005 9:24:14 PM CDT
But Lando, whats the point in posting? Just to piss people off?
by tonywilson
Thats just pathetic.
Ok so many liberals won't admit to being to wrong. Neither will many republicans or consevatives. Religious fundamentalists are the worst for invincible ignorance, "it's wrong becuae god (or allah) says it is." You make many points that use Christian teachings to back them up. Your guilty of Invincible Ignorance too. -
Don't be such a clown to suggest that. It exists on either side of the political divide. It's easy to say theres no point arguing with you or taking you seriously because you have such a dogmatic belief in your arguments. Your just as much of a dope as any liberal by those standards.
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Jul 24, 2005 9:36:17 PM CDT
Oh and finally, was the comment about work just some sort of bai
by tonywilson
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TonyWilson out.
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I'm not saying that as a matter of pride, it's just that in this country you don't even have the right to drink a beer legally until you're 21, so for most of us college is a bit of freedom and we want to enjoy it for a few years before thinking about more serious things. If I think about it, I'm going to a University that receives funding from the state, so yeah, politics is playing a big part in my life. It's just hard to get worked up about it when things are going well. We don't have a draft, we don't have a depression, we're all reasonably happy. Most of us just want to enjoy it for a while. I know that's short-sighted, but that's the reality. You're right, I don't know the history of Lando's posts, but I don't know yours or anyone else's either. And I'm probably not going to form an opinion based on someone's posts, but I certainly am developing biases just from reading these things. The next time I hear a liberal speaking, I'm going to have in the back of my mind "Oh, those are the people who think I'm stupid." It's hard not to let something like that affect you, and I think I'm more open-minded than most. Not throwing that back in your face Tony, it sounds like by the standards of your counrty I AM ignorant. I just want to point out that that sort of thing probably has the effect of pushing most people into the other camp. And if the other camp calls me stupid too, is it any wonder I'd rather get back to drinking beer where everyone is getting along?
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Jul 24, 2005 9:56:58 PM CDT
I agree that a lot of liberals, especially at college have a sup
by tonywilson
It puts people off royally. I'm not really a liberal myself (although I'm sure there are now people laughing there arses off at that). Look at it this way Winky, I was being biased about you to begin with but I'm happy to concede I was wrong and it was based on my culture anyway. I don't think you are stupid and apart from Cod here no one else has said that. Heck plenty of republicans will think that too but they might just shut up and smile politely instead of saying it to your face. You can only make up your own mind of course. But base it on the books you read not on what the people on this website think of you. It's about 4am here so I'm off. Nice talking to you though.
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Jul 24, 2005 10:01:12 PM CDT
Lando, you said the best way to solve the problems n the middle
by tonywilson
That would create more hatred for America and more terrorists. You said give the civillian population 72 hours to get out. Well that would also give the terrorists time to get out as well.
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Jul 24, 2005 10:31:28 PM CDT
Lando when I said bait, was refeering to the times you said you
by tonywilson
I was not havong a go at you for timing or anything like that. Secondly I believe posting insulting hateful remarks on here for the sake of it is pathetic. You make good points sometimes but other times you just engage in flaming.
Also it's very late here so maybe my cognition is quite fully up to scratch but I don't see what Murder and commandments have to do with anything I said. You have quoted from the bible in many posts to prove points about Gays being wrong or immoral or whatever. Using the bible as proof that being gay is wrong is invincible ignorance. If you carpet bomb someone's country and give them 72 hours to get out they will hate you. I don't need evidence to back that up it's common sense. if you give a civillian population warning of bombings then the terrorists and insurgents will also get that warning. -
I happen to believe in something call it god or whatever. I don't believe in a Christian god or a jewish god or anything like that. But I want to see how you prove god exists. Surely the point of not being able to prove God exists is faith. Faith is the most important thing in religion. not wether God exists.
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Jul 24, 2005 10:45:37 PM CDT
Fucking Hell that is one funny ass site. Lando cheers mate that
by tonywilson
It proves fuck all though. And yes I'm aware of the irony of that statement.
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I feel almost guilty for not once thinking of modern-day terrorism when watching the trailer. But 1984 did jump to mind quite often. I'm still kind of curious about the tone of the movie--it was mostly realistic but then would jump into comic-book-ish in the trailer in moments. I guess we'll see. Oh, and while we're pushing student films, http://www.unseenfilms.com/demoralization_media.htm
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Do you seriously think you're accomplishing anything here? Are you capable of reflecting even a tiny bit upon how self-discrediting your comments are? Just to take as example your last post, where you state that "the notion that murder is wrong comes from the ten commandments", makes this obviously clear. Do you really believe this, or am I misunderstanding your overall argument (I haven't read this entire thread)? And what about this: "If it was good enough for Truman to nuke someone twice, then it is certainly good enough for us to conventionally bomb an enemy". Oh really? Well, all I can say then is congratulations. That is exactly the sort of logic Osama's followers have adopted. You've just shown how easy it is for someone to adopt 'radical' ideas. There is nothing more radical than indiscriminately bombing other countries, killing in the process thousands of civilians (and in many other cases much more), to further one's own ideological agenda... By the way, glad to see that 'freedom of speech' is working out for you. Maybe you should read up on the 'linguistic turn' so that you can understand language and how to use it. Just some friendly advice...
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This looks like it could be the suprise kick-ass comic adaptation that generally only smaller films like "The Crow", "Hellboy", & "Sin City" manage to pull off. hell, "Constantine" entertained me more than "Batman Begins"! The problem in a nutshell was that they took everything away from Bruce Wayne & Batman that made their characters work in the modern comics and the BTAS series. Bruce Wayne is not a pissy & whiney punk, either at the start of his career or ever! Gotham City looked pathetic. That damn train was shown so many times a blind man could have guessed it was inevitably central to the plot. That's what I call "foreshadowing... with a freaking sledgehammer"! Sure, the acting was fine. Katie Holmes? Absolutely pointless & unneeded. Michael Caine's acting was fine, but his Alfred was hardly the classy, cultured butler of the animated series & comics. Scarecrow was nice, for the 5 min. he was in there. And then there's the Ducard/Ra's Al Ghul crap. Not only was Ra's character & motivations COMPLETELY WRONG from the comics & show, but key elements of the character like his daughter, the Lazurus Pits, ect. are totally missing. And the shitty, saw it coming plot-twist was practically on billboards in the movie from the first scene. As for Spidey, I loved both films, but honestly, Sam better pull out all the stops & show us that he can do deep-character melodrama & badd-ass action again... The first film balances it out nicely. The second... gets damned annoying when Doc Ock vanishes for half the movie. And let's make sure that we start seeing the confidence, & the wisecracks, in Peter. Show us WHY he wears the damn suit, beyond just "oh oh, someone's threatening Mary Jane/the city/both"... We need to see the exhiliration, the veritable addiction he has to BEING Spider-Man, because it's a relief from being Parker. We know Parker inside & out now, let's get to know Spider-Man!! All that said, I'm excited about "V for Vendetta". It was an awesome graphic-novel, and no, dammit, we do NOT need to change our creative output because some genocidal, hate-everyone religous zealots want to blow shit up everyplace. This story & hopefully, the movie, shows us exactly what happens when we just sit on our asses until catastrophe strikes, then bitch about "dirting our hands" during & afterwards.
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Jul 25, 2005 2:29:19 AM CDT
Ok Lando if they hate you they will want revenge for what you di
by tonywilson
And become terrorists. That isn't an emotion or a feeling. You said being gay was immoral, you said it a lot more than once too, why do you think it is immoral? Just I can't prove it's not true but then you can't prove it is beliving something when there is no evidence for it and actual evidence to the contrary is invincible ignorance. And yes atheists can believe in thngs religious people do, so what? They believe in the same thing for different reasons. There really isn't much point in saying that. It doesn't mean religions are right or wrong. Catholics believe bread and wine turn in to flesh and blood when it's eaten. That's bullshit. Oh and blowing up an innocent civillian even if it's to get to an insurgent IS MURDER.
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Jul 25, 2005 3:48:22 AM CDT
Sooooo, on another note, I'm going to take a bet that this t
by kinobick
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Jul 25, 2005 3:57:20 AM CDT
lando, I don't want a fight. I just thought we were having a
by tonywilson
Anyway it must be late there so good night.
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Rushing to capture Baghdad. The military should have done a more thorough job and culled each and every city until it had killed as many Iraqui military as possible. Then when the got to Baghdad, not rush in and grab it. Sit outside in a seige and just kill every man jack who came out of the city, while at the same time going to other places north of B and killing as many Iraqui Military as possible. Never leave enough enemy to rise up and challenge you again. The Nuke effect in Iraq was not used. We lost a little over 300 of our Military to combat. We have lost more than triple to terrorists. We should have marched into Syria immediatly and culled them as well. Now they are a passageway for Terrorists. The war planning was fucked up due to Politically Correct motive's like preserving civilian lives. Should have killed as many iraqui as possible like we did in Japan with the two nukes. You can't win a guerilla war. You just get bogged down. You must use heavy weponery to take the fight out of the enemy. Afghanistan's mountains should have been nuked many times over to not only send a message to the world but to ensure Bin Laden and his boys would never see the light of day again.
Winky, Liberals are a cotradiction in term. They neither want liberty or freedom. They want subserviency. They will get it one way or the other. They will use the courts to deny your rights, they will use the courts to give rights to criminals. They will take away your free speech by calling your speech un pc or hate speech or sexists or whatever. They will allow terroristss to have rights that not even some black guy in LA has. You show me who is trying to do what in this country.
Tonywilson how about those Jackbooted Military style police who put five in that Brazillians head the other day? Don't be so high and mighty. It's a small scale mistake but civilians get killed in war sometimes and make no mistake, you guys are at war.
Valerie Plame was outed by her Husband and in fact she outed herself by getting herself involved in politics, when she is supposed to be information gathering in other countries.(In the months to come you'll find out that it was the State Department and that asshole Colin Powell and his minions who outed this Lady) She was willing to let a bold faced lie that her Husband said about who sent him to Africa, just slide. She is a paid Democratic operative who has been one of the people in the CIA who leaked sensitive material about our war plans before the Iraq invasion. Joe Wilson's claims of no Yellow Cake Uranium in Niger was a lie as proved by the commitee who looked into the intelligence foul up at the CIA. Bu the book or look for it in pdf form online somewhere. The commitee on WMD report.
Lando is right about Liberals not wanting to admit, hell not admit not allow, the truth to penetrate their shields. They care not about the truth they have an agenda which is not based on the truth but based on emotional responses to poll tested words. Just watch Chucky Schumar or Teddy Kennedy when they speak about anything. Take specific not on the silly but well tested words they use that they know will garner th proper responses. Like the new Supreme court Justice to be nominee. Just listen to the BS about Judge Roberst will roll back rights to the 1940's or roll back Roe V wade and women will be in alleys with coathangers. It's all lies meant to scare and galvanize at the same time. Scare you, galvinize the faithful.
Ted Kennedy is a Murderer. He killed a woman, Nothing he says is worth the spit on his tongue. Bt it makes sense that a Murderer would be for abortions because it's just kinda murder.
Tony Wilson the fence sitting Pussy. Still at it huh? Still trying to get others to believe your not a Liberal. Of course you are man. Your hatred for Karl Rove is just further proof of your lies about your ideology.
Winky make up your own mind and yes you can base what you believe are Liberals and Conservative on these talkbacks. Wanna know why? An old saying goes," A an can only truly be judged on how he treats people he doesn't know, not on how much money he has or anything else he's done in life. Charity and respect for your fellow man is the key".
The fact these guys immediately classified you an ignoramus just because of your age and standing in life is further proof that puts the lie to the word Liberal. They aren't liberals my friend they are basically socialist bordering on communists. They are elitist snobs who look down on anyone who is not them and they condescend to everyone else.
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My point was, if you believe in the bible you have to think any murder is a sin and breaks a commandment. I'm not a liberal in the sense that I don't immediately believe anything the left tell me or try to prove is correct. My hatred for Rove stems from his desire to destroy the church and state divide in the US. It is a fact that he outed that woman. Oh and one guy classified Winky as an ignoramus because of his standing. I classified him as being stupid or self obsessed because of what little he knew about politics. I did that because in the UK to get to 20 and to know barely anything about politics you would have to be thick, unwilling learn or self obsessed. Heck Justice you assumed a lot about me and nearly all of it was wrong. The police were right to shoot that guy. End of. It's still tragic that it happened but they did what needed to be done. Liberals are as guilty as cons for believing bullshit. I'm a cynic. There's a big difference.
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Jul 25, 2005 5:21:30 AM CDT
Justice41 you are as blind to fact and argument as any dyed in t
by tonywilson
Both sides get on wrong a hell of a lot more then they get it right. I assume you are aware of Rove's strategy when it comes to dealing with anyone they percieve
to be a threat. He's been sliming (his word) since he was in college. Ok so you think a more heavy handed approach to Iraq was needed, in some ways I'd agree, but to suggest we go in and kill and kill and kill till they give up is stupid. They will never give up. Just like you would never give up if Al Qaeda flew planes in to building everyday. All you do is increase hatred for yourselves which leads to more people becoming extremists. That's comment sense. The administration can see this. Practically everyone else can as well. It's only a few bloodthirsty souls who think any different. Yeh I sit on a fence because taking sides means you can't be objective. You have to follow one or the other. Pretty foolish. -
Jul 25, 2005 7:10:39 AM CDT
"Anyway, you seem to be an unfunny prick. I could be wrong, but
by gruesome wedgie
This from anchorite, a jerk who, in another talkback, made a crack about "rolling a bomb under a bus" to another poster from the UK. After several other posters went off on him for it, he tucked tail & scuttled off like the rodent he is - not even man enough to offer an apology for saying something so blatently fucked up. You want to see an unfuuny prick, anchorite? Look in the mirror, if you can. Meanwhile, the clip looks cool, and saying its a ripoff of this or that matters not. There are no originals ideas, just variations on themes. Some themes get shuffled & reshuffled together, to try to make things fresh, but its still the same game; young men trying to beat dead men at things that have already been. What did you expect?
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More conservative vs liberal dick waving. Wonderful.
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Don't fuck with me or I'll have my new boyfriend/bodyguard Devin kick your fucking ass.
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I hear a more right-wing version of V is coming out... J for Justified.
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Before you said "The police were right to shoot that guy. End of. It's still tragic that it happened but they did what needed to be done.", you said "Oh and blowing up an innocent civillian even if it's to get to an insurgent IS MURDER." - I am not saying what the police did in the UK was murder by the way nor that your two statements are diametrically opposed but on the face of it, they seem somewhat incongruent as in both situations, an innocent person gets killed and we must try and avoid that. Can you please clarify yourself?
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Listen - that guy in London has no one to blame but himself for ending up in the morgue. No one. Might the bobbies have been a bit twitchy on the trigger? Perfectally understandable, given their brief affair with side arms to start with, and, especially & most importantly, given the dead guys actions. He brought the rain down on himself. The only thing he apparently didn't do was shout out "allah akbar!" or "Osama rules!" His family asking for damages is sick & laughable. The bobbies should be asking his family to pay damages for making them have to shoot his idiotic ass. While he may have been an "innocent civilian", his actions that day were not. I hope this incident will not deter armed bobbies from opening up on the next poltroon who behaves in this manner, as he may be the one carrying the bomb next time. The lunatic murderers may, in fact, be counting on police reluctance next time. It surely is a f&*ked up situation, but a situation of the dead guys making.
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Agree 100%. The first thing that I thought of when I saw the trailer was how sharp, how clearly defined the images looked and how the images from the graphic novel were grainy, almost dream-like.
As it stands, it appears almost hyper-real.
Not a good thing, but luckily a minor one.
BTW, saw Fantastic Four last weekend, and it was not nearly as bad as it's being made out to be. The story also cleverly worked in hints about Latveria, so those that said that they didn't make Doom the head of Latveria may actually have been inaccurate because it doesn't reveal his connection to that nation. -
They might have tried for that look, but perhaps it just wouldn't work as well on the screen as it did in the graphic novel.
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Long John Baldry has passed on at the unacceptably young age of 64. A moment of silence, if you love music at all...
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You sir, are a lying sack of shit. Anyone curious enough to find out the truth can check out the post made by madam slime ball in the Bela Lugosi Does Jesus section, a couple of weeks back. If unavailable, I will happily go home, dig out the hard copy & repost it for all to see. Didn't see that one coming, did you? Coward. You did it, & to this day still can't own up to what a piece of shit you are. And, for those parsing hairs, telling anyone in the UK to "blow themselves up" in any manner, in light of recent events, is the talk of a mental defective. The same putz arse wipe who contended that Walter Cronkite wasn't a journalist. There's no end to the wealth of turds that fall out of your wee brain pan. Yeah. WTF indeed.
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Hey Shan, yeh I can clarify for you. Ok So the police shot that man because they thought he was going to blow himself up. They turned out to be wrong but were acting in the best interests of everyone around and thought they were killing a suicide bomber. In Iraq or anywhere when you bomb you automatically concede to killing innocent civillians not through mistaken identity or because of their actions. My point about the "IS MURDER" thing was that if you are a christian who believes in the 10 commandments you can't go around bombing cities or towns because you will murder people. Personally not being a Christian I can understand and to some extent rationalize that awful phrase "collateral damage". But what confounds me is christinans who thinks it's ok to do it.
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LOL. Seriously, how can that man not be a journalist? What is he instead then? WTF indeed.
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Any movie that does anything but sing the praises of Big Government will piss off a lot of Bushies.
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It staggers me to see the number of people who are more than prepared to accept the criminal deaths of thousands of other people just so they can have peace of mind. Look out! there's a brown person living on your street, in your town... All over your country... (wait, if they live there, it might be their country too).
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Ask anchorite...I recall that conversation too. He was very firm about it. Apparently all that stuff about Walter being in London during the blitz was a fantasy. Of course, she'll likely deny it now, since that particular post subject is no longer available. Anchorite has, it seems, major issues owning up to the bone headed things that it posts here, but as with the post regarding his fucktard offer of blowing up an english citizen, there's no end to the sewage this creature spouts. I also recall that post in the section where they had pix of Bela Lugosi playing Jesus in London, around 1908 or something like that. Several people, including myself if memory serves, had a go at him & he vanished from the TB, never to return. Expect more posting from her, laced with naughty words & bluff talk, since that's all it has, believe me.
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right. lets see. you've told us that you are a college lecturer, a writer (erotic fan-fiction doesn't count, btw), and that you have top level security clearance to the FBI (because your brother is in the military? you do realize that the FBI and the military are two separate entites with two separate command structures? you do realize this don't you?). oh, and lest we forget -- you take the Bible as literal truth, rather than metaphor (the first sign of madness in any person). in addition, you've told me that i'm guilty of treason for critcizing Bush and his cronies -- which makes me one of MILLIONS of those who rightfully criticize the man and his Regime for his war crimes and duplicity. not only that, you've inexplicably accused me of a "tort violation?" do you even know what a tort violation is? it's not a pastry, it has to do with erroneous law suits. but, listen man, i get it. you're a 52 year old obese virgin. you're angry. you hate. the world is a scary place now. i know, i know, it's okay. but this is not the way! perhaps you should speak with a professional? they won't be able to fix all of your problems, but they might be able to help you redirect your anger and hopelessness to more constructive pursuits, like knitting or PlayDoh. you know what though, with all of this fun i've been having, i've overlooked something. i think you may be right. clearly, i am insane -- basically, for continuing this nonsense. good night, lil' brownshirt. have a nice life. when the Gestapo comes to pick me up, i'll let them know that it was Landoasskissian who turned me in. yes, that's right -- the man who's name refers to kissing Billy Dee William's smooth black ass. ouch.
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I don't just accept the deaths of anyone. I don't know if that comment was about me but trust me when I say it was a tragic thing that happened. There will be an investigation, there always is when the police shoot someone in the UK, if there was any wrong doing it will be brought to light, we have a pretty good system over here. For me the guy could have been white or chinese or any ethnicity. In the wake of what happened a day before when I guy sees armed police and runs on to a station what does anyone expect to happen? It's sad that the terrorist have pushed us this far but it's also something we have to accept. Terrorism is so very dangerous because it always works. Always. Wether people are killed or not. It's such and insidous method of war. It has so moany different effects that all impinge upon the victims.
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Is the yellow for Lance Armstrong winning his 7th Tour de France (both you guys are from Texas) or are you just trying to gay out the site....Just asking?
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i don't think this excuses what happened, but i think understand why it happened. these cops were scared! they saw something rather odd -- a man dressed in a bulky coat going into the subway on a very hot day -- and they went over the line. maybe theres a racist element to that, maybe not. i think if i were a cop in the same situation, i might get scared like that too. although i can't imagine myself shooting a man in the head 5 times, i could see myself jumping him and beating him down.
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Jul 25, 2005 11:04:46 AM CDT
Ok Zombie I do see your point. But all police are under very str
by tonywilson
He did run from them. I know a lot has been said about his background but he'd been in the uk a good while and was obviously aware of what was going on. It's very sad. But I wouldn't run from armed police in the UK. Would you?
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off topic those cops had the right to shoot stab or give herpes to anyone who didn't adhere to thier demands. and let me just say it's about time those UK po po started getting bad ass. if you run your guilty of something and we all know the prison systems are already over populated. So fuck the criminals as they would be fucked in jail - at least this way us tax payers would spend less supporting & feeding the criminals in the prisons
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it's no secret i'm a big lefty, but i can admit that the circumstances looked verrry suspicious. that's why although it doesn't excuse them, i can understand why they went over the line... i just wish they didn't. not just because of this poor man, but i bet those cops are feeling like shit too. and stuff like that certainly doesn't make England look good. you know what i mean? the whole thing sucks. it's what happens when FEAR controls the land...
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Very true my friend. Very true. That's way I think terrorism always works, it instantly spreads fear and suspicions and stops people from leading normal lives. That guy got killed for a number of reasons many of which were his own fault, but, the terrorist attacks are responsible for his death as well. I agree those bobbied must feel awful now. I'll also admit when it first happened and people thouht he was a bomber I was, not pleased, but satsfied with what they did. That sense of security evaporated as soon as he was identifed as civillian. The sad fact is also, this incident is only likely to increase the terrorists resolve. Fighting terrorism is a near impossible task. Fighting it with brute force is a totally impossible task.
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Why are people constantly ignoring the fact that this dead guy is the one who screwed the pooch? When they said "halt", & he looked around to see armed men pointing guns at him, all he had to do was halt. He didn't. He then run into a train station & jumped the turnstiles, all the time ignoring orders from the armed men behind him to STOP. He refused, & they were absolutely justified at that point in blowing the silly son of a bitch to Mars. The charge of possible racism is absurd - he was shot because he came out of a house under surveilance, dressed in manner the bobs were told to look for, & ran like hell from armed men into a train station. Period. I am sorry to see this day come to my amigos in the UK, but lathering blame upon the cops is nuts. This guy held his fate in his owns hands & pissed it away stupidly. I hope the next dumbass who pulls a stunt like that gets the same. The Israelis taught the British cops under their tuteldge to go for the head shot with these clowns, as that is the only reasonably guarenteed way of stopping them from doing whatever it is they have in mind. A wounded man can still light off a detonater. You do not, can not give people like this ( terrorists) second chances.
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No, wasn't about you - but in actual fact, I am empathetic towards the police in a situation like that. Unfortunately, it is the worst case scenario, because the first person shot was an innocent (anyone consider that the cat may have been visiting his pot dealer? Hence, the running, misunderstanding and then 5 to the dome). Now you have a general incompetence outcry, a completely petrified minority community (that's not just racial profiling - that's 'shoot the non-whites' profiling), and a general community who realizes that the authorities, in most cases, are tactically profficient while having no idea who they're fighting. There is no way out of this, no way to fight this enemy, and we'll likely be living with terrorism for the rest of our lives, or until some actual war breaks out that dwarfs this unfocused 'war on 'ism'. I just truly hope that the Muslim organizations get off the 'tread softly and keep a low profile' strategy and actually formally do something about the perversion in their otherwise totally fine little Islam (well, except for the treatment of women, my god - why do all religions hate women?). At some point, the issue has to be how to stop making blowing yourself up seem like a viable career path.
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... before any information had come out other than a man had been shot running from police, both of my parents (who are from Sri Lanka) pegged this shooting as a mistake. As it is, they say Sri Lanka is one of the countries where they credit as having learned this technique from. Unfortunately, they fail to mention that quite often, suicide bombers get through in Sri Lanka. They may not have invented the technique there but they have certainly refined it way too well. Quite often you don't get a good chance to shoot them - conversely, you have the results as to what happened, you shoot the wrong person. The Independent newspaper published an article about the guy who was killed, here's a small bit of it "His fate was apparently decided by a cruel combination of improbability: that, used to the heat of Brazil, he should find a cool Englishsummer's day too cold for comfort and wore a bulky jacket; his skin colour might have made him appear Asian to his pursuers; and he shared a communal entrance to a block of flats with a suspected member of the terrorist cell that carried out last Thursday's failed attack on London's transport system." When the jacket was mentioned and as to why he was wearing it, I first off thought that maybe he was wearing it because even on the best of days, well England is cold for those of us from closer to the equator. Not necessarily sinister in itself - and I was right. As for where he lived, he wasn't sharing a house, there were a lot of apartments in a block with a common entrance, I'm presuming ...
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Jul 25, 2005 12:17:25 PM CDT
Sorry, I meant they may not have invented the technique OF SUICI
by shan
That's how the sentence in my above paragraph should read.
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Anyone who runs is a terrorist ... ... Anyone who stands still is a well trained terrorist.
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I think it's sad that terrorism has warped the minds of the British to the point that even the boobs have become violent. Breasts are beautiful things and meant for pleasure and to feed infants, not to murder unsuspecting civilians. I don't want to go to the beach in fear of my life, I want to be able to relax and unwind.
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"Excuse me,Sir..can I speak to you for a moment..I am an undercover Policeman..please,don't make any sudden movements..I'd like you to accompany me towards the....WE@VE GOT A RUNNER...REPEAT,WE'VE GOT A RUNNER....oh,jesus..SUSPECT HAS JUMPED OVER TURNSTILES AND IS HEADING TOWARD THE PLATFORM.."..........now,what's the next move?Checkmate,I'd say.Then again,perhaps Livingstone has really gone all fascist on us and this was just a warning to fare dodgers...
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People seem confused and now I am. It wouldn't be relevent except for all these boobies turning violent. I wouldn't want to see hers, they sound dangerous. Sort of like the exploding fembots from Austin Powers.
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It's hard to know what to believe when there's all this conflicting information. Maybe that sort of thing is what's turning all those english tittes violent, just a thought. And maybe Lando wouldn't be so antagonistic toward homosexuals if you wouldn't keep hitting on him Zombie. You gotta give someone a little space, it's called sexual harassment. And those of you talking about comic books here, try to find a more appropriate forum to discuss your childlike interests. We're discussing some serious shit here. Magua, if the guy guy was fucking a dog, maybe that lead to his death? That sort of behavior is unusual in many countries and could cause people to react inappropriately.
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all this booby talk is making me happy but (as previously suggested) can we all from now on say "tits" instead of great, it really does make for better reading. for example I think the cops shooting that guy was tits
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Oh, how funny and original you are.
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They are the tits!
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I was thinking eat a salad
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jesus. look at THIS fucking thread. just coming over to see whats going on, I've already made my requisite comments about 12 year old Natalie Portman. also Bobo, there's no way you would have broken even, pizza is way worse, in SO many ways. and mayonnaise is a goodness that cannot be described. I think you made the right decision.
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for all your bitchng about people not talking about V you haven't said anything about it either - you hypocrite pizza & mayonnaise sandwich eating tub of blah
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"Arab American" Wrestler Is Banished from Smackdown
"Arab-American" wrestler Muhammad Hassan has taken a forced leave of absence from UPN's SmackDown after his appearance on the show two weeks ago -- on the day of the London bombings -- drew hundreds of complaints. Joanna Massey, a spokeswoman for UPN, which airs SmackDown!, said that the network had asked World Wrestling Entertainment to remove episodes featuring Hassan "because it was the right thing to do." Hassan's real name is Mark Copani; he is an Italian-American Buddhist.
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Jul 25, 2005 2:45:01 PM CDT
Winky, Tony Wasn't Calling You Stupid And Ignorant Because H
by diana rules!
He was calling you stupid and ignorant because he's a pompous smug Englishman. And maybe the Brazillian got killed becuase he was Brazillian. I've heard a lot about Brazillian nuts, so maybe when he said "Hey, I'm Brazillian," those titties (a bone to Trevor, and no, not that king of bone, grow up people)thought "Hey, he must be nuts!" and proceeded to lactate prematurely, or whatever the British phrase is. Justice41, your deisre to out more lesbians is commendable as is your love for unborn children, anyone can see that you're a peace loving man at heart from your bridge-building rhetoric. CISCO, you are so right about Republicans and their love for big government, you have a keen grasp of the ideals of American political parties despite your fear of vaginas, or "bushies" as you call them. Weedy, I don't know why all religions hate women, it always puzzled me that Jesus spent so much time smacking da bitches and putting da hos in their place. Maybe that's where it comes from.
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Jul 25, 2005 2:53:46 PM CDT
Hey Diana, I maybe be pompus and smug but I'm not...er hang
by tonywilson
Anyway, you really do have to be a super thick Chav or Chavette to not understnad about liberals or conservatives. If you are from the UK that is. Maybe it's different in the US (I only go to New York becaue all those Yonkers chicks love british guys, I even have good teeth).
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I have no defense for trying to emulate the genius of Mark Twain, I didn't realize it had been done before and done better. After being called on it, I spent more time than any person with a life should have running down the reference on AICN and I am humbled and realize how these things are supposed to be done and have shoved my own boot up my ass. Mr. Clemens, my humble apologies and you are fucking brilliant!
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ok I've heard of putting a foot into ones mouth, or (70's show) putting a foot into ones ass, but never a boot into one's own ass - that's just tits
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH. ROFLMAO.
Oh sweet jesus that's fucking comedy genius. Anchorite have you ever watched the news in any other country? Ever read a foreign newspaper. US Liberal media bias....you are one fucking crazy motherfucker Anchorite. Anything you said just got flushed down the shitter. Man that will keep me smiling all night. -
dude I don't know what the hell you're trying to preach about or even what message you're trying to get accross. But to me you sound like the teacher from charlie brown cartoons "Wah wa wah wah wah, wah wa" besides you just waisted 30 seconds of my life with your blah blah and don't do it again, you'll make me angry and you won't like me when I'm angry
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Because it's hard to find anyone who speaks english in that city, speaking english is a passport to getting laid in the Big Apple. I thought of admitting that King of Bone was a typo and sloppiness on my part, but fortunately Anchorite pointed out that that it's un American to admit to error or apologize so check your facts Trevor, King of Bone will be . . . . uh . . . fuck you, you liberal! Anchorite's description of the liberal media is like a breath of fresh air, I know I was appalled at the way the liberal media promoted the war in Iraq and kept showing those clips of the peace rallies getting violent which is clearly how the liberals subtly want to be portrayed as wack jobs and believe that by promoting the war they are secretly subverting it. Diabolical! Bobo, excellent work burning that bridge Tony built with Winky Man. The Winkster was dangerously close to seeing that a liberal had class and was capable of considering the points of view of others while still making an intelligent and impassioned case for his own side, even using using that famed British wit that has been in short supply in these posts. Fortunately you struck before the damge could take hold. This is no doubt due to your keen insight about the secret love of liberal arts majors for politics and especially their natural tendencies to learn toward the republican party. Excellent work looking into his heart and defining his true character, any 20 year old who claims to be ignorant clearly has a dark agenda since college sophmores are the brain trust of this country.
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wasted was spelled correctly the waist you mentioned is the one you put a belt on. dumbass
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Jul 25, 2005 3:33:44 PM CDT
Anchorite other countries media outlets aren't left leaning.
by tonywilson
The Sun and The Times in the UK, owned by Rupert Murdoch. Even they are still more objective then any news show in US. You don't have an objective media anymore. You have a right leaning one. Other countries media is objective. You seriously are warped. Yeh I laughed my head off at your posts because you have no idea how ridiculous you sound. The US media is rightwing. Fox is practically a propaganda machine.
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but you're still a dumbass in my book and don't speak for all americans because ....well basically I just don't like you
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Just let it run its inbred mouth, and don't bother responding. Its like trying to teach a pig to play chess - it wastes your time & irritates the pig. I am, however, pulling my hard copy of the TB in question so I can shove the truth right down achorheads throat. Its so ignorant, it still thinks it's okay to threaten to blow up an englishman the day of, or perhaps the day after ( I'll check the dates on the TB) some extremist shitheels did just that in London. Do not try to reason with creatures of its ilk. Faux-human detritus. Colon lint.
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Talk about delusions of grandeur! You really think you're all that, don't you? What a sad, pathetic thing you are, needing to feel important by spouting tripe that a child would laugh at. Sad, sad, sad.
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The Sun has a few good journo's working for them, the tits on Page 3 are always a pleasure in the morning! The showbiz section is the shittest in the galaxy (dont get me started on that one!). It is the most popular paper in the country, but I think Mr Murdoch could be a Bond Villian... The Sun has achieved such saturation and influence in this country that it willfully and shamlessly hypnotises its readers to ways of thinking - and can demonize a person or group of people at the editors behest. Does Murdoch live in a Sydney mansion or a secret base in a volcano? If the answer is the latter... please call Q ASAFP.
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Jul 25, 2005 3:53:21 PM CDT
Hey Diana Rules -- Landoasskissing Started This By Allegedly Inf
by zombiesolutions
which, we all know didn't happen, but still... if anyone is trying to get anyone else's gay attention its Landoasskissian. case in point -- i wasn't even aware that this guy existed until yesterday when he hit me out of the blue with the ridiculous threat that he had informed on me to the FBI (where he allegedly has top level security clearance because his brother is in the military? right). he, on the other hand, has apparently been "watching me for months" (as he says in a previous post). technically, then, he's harrassing me, and stalking me, and because of this i could sue him and press charges. don't worry, i'm keeping all of this documented -- with names, dates and IP addresses -- for my attorney should legal action become necessary. thank you, and good night.
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Jul 25, 2005 3:55:39 PM CDT
"But to me you sound like the teacher from charlie brown cartoon
by maguasynfield
Ha ha ha! Nice one centurian... ( but didn't George Harrison sing "I don't need no wah wahs...?")
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America sucks but the rest of the world is a pile of shit so were would you rather live? Yep...pretty much sums it up. Not if you will excuse me...I am still trying to work on stealing Moonraker 1 for my trip off this rock...Xemu, the lizards or the tripods or the aliens from Signs can have this shit. Liberals and Conservatives and Islamic homocide bombers my ass you all are pussies.
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Do they show boobies with machine guns? Or do they show the same docile enticing boobies they always have? You change the boobies and the terrorists have won! Anchorite, you still haven't clarified your gender, possibly due to fear as being labelled "on the rag." I don't think anyone posting would take a cheap shot like that, especially not Magua who's too busy elevating the game play of swine despite the thanklessness of it all. Anchorite, you shrewdly zeroed in on the stuff of substance in my lengthy post, mainly anything having to do with you and wisely ignored the rest of the drivel. Way to stay focused and also I admire your attention to grammar and the importance of being able to spell. We here in the US realize that you can't be taken seriously without a proper command of the english language, and have therefore elected a president that puts us in the best light on this most important issue of credibility. Trevor, just because you are well hung is no need to rub it in the faces of those less fortunate. Tony, once again you have seen what we here could not, that FOX news does seem, upon further thought, to favor the Republicans. I will return the favor by offering my overseas insight and suggest that The Guardian seems to favor the left. Sometimes the fish can't see the water, I know. Lando, by not posting every 10 minutes you are lending credibility to the thought that you may indeed have a job, but it's apparent that you are not as high on the totem pole as you would have people believe if you can't shake free to enlighten those who desperately need your guidance. Oh, and by totem pole I meant a hierarchal metaphor, not suggesting you were engaged in immoral sexual acts.
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All the dictatorrs,terrorists and CEO's keep their money there. Those Swiss, they are smart motherfuckers. "If we keep everyones money and judge no one, we will be loved or at least tolerated by all." Then just for a bit of extra power and influence they put themselves in charge of the Vatican security and operations (nice move) and for everyone else who still doesn't trust them they make thoe funky little penknives. Safe smart and very rich. Switzerland is the place to be.
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Jul 25, 2005 4:06:17 PM CDT
"Liberals and Conservatives and Islamic homocide bombers my ass
by gruesome wedgie
At least you're not bitter...
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Jul 25, 2005 4:08:50 PM CDT
"not suggesting you were engaged in immoral sexual acts."
by maguasynfield
Although.......naw, no one here would do that.
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The boobies... or 'tits' as there known to most people not wanting a girl to laugh at them mid coitus (possibly gazonga's - depending the dress size of the gal you hooked up with) - are still attached to girls that do not suck on Glock's and make grenades sensual. But the Page 3 girls now have a though bubble above them which contains something like this - "Jo, 24, from Leicestershire thinks that the shoot to kill policy is justified, but does think the man getting shot was icky!" - Classic stuff...
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Jul 25, 2005 4:11:56 PM CDT
The Guardian is left leaning? Diana you lie!! Dun dun daa!!
by tonywilson
And now in my best Anchorite impression "Just because the UK is more left wing then the rest of Europe (oh god I'm laughing again here)does not mean the Guardian is anything less then a totally objective if not right wing mouthpiece". Yup I think that sums up Anchorite stupidity in one neatly phrased post. Hey I know the rest of you guys thinks Fix er I'm sorry I meant Fox favours the Cons but Anchorite seems to think they are all left wing loonies.
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Although I'm sure it was Zoe, 19, from Liverpool though. Jo, 24, from leicester thought those suicide bombers should be captured and have their heads sliced off slowly by Richard Littlejohn. Whew thanks Jo and Zoe, for those audacious succinct politcal statements. I have so much respect for half naked exploited Sainsbury's checkout girls and thier opinions.
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Page 3 does show a lot more thong action these days - keep it comin! Gotta go... got a poker tourny starting... probably will be back real soon!!!
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That "Elliot Carver" in Tomorrow Never Dies was such a thinly disguised Rupert Murdoch that I'm almost surprised he didn't sue ...
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Jul 25, 2005 4:28:01 PM CDT
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=banish
by iamnicksaicnsn
Liberal media: Whiny, bitching, cry-baby conservatives love to prattle on and on about the "liberal media." To be fair, except for FOX News (Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity, John Gibson, Neil Cavuto, Steve Doocy, E.D. Hill, Brian Kilmeade, Brit Hume), Clear Channel, Laura Ingraham, Dr. Laura, Rush Limbaugh, Hugh Hewitt, Ann Coulter, Newsmax, G. Gordon Liddy, Michael Reagan, Michael Savage, The New York Post, Sinclair Broadcast Group (WLOS13, Fox 45, WTTO21, WB49, KGAN, WICD, WICS, WCHS, WVAH, WTAT, WSTR, WSYX, WTTE, WKEF, WRGT, KDSM, WSMH, WXLV, WURN, KVWB, KFBT, WDKY, WMSN, WVTV, WEAR, WZTV, KOTH, WYZZ, WPGH, WGME, WLFL, WRLH, WUHF, KABB, WGGB, WSYT, WTTA), David Horowitz, Rupert Murdoch, PAX, and MSNBC's Joe Scarborough, they're right.
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Jul 25, 2005 4:28:50 PM CDT
Shan, I think the reason he didn't sue is that the film got
by tonywilson
Murdoch would eat Carver for breakfast and Bond as an after dinner mint.
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The most important thing is indeed, who started it, something that Lando has emphasized time and again. It seems that the two of you have more in common than you think, maybe the foundation has been laid for you two to have a beer. I apologize for misreading that you were hitting on Lando, even though you haven't "proven" me wrong. I'm willing to take your word and admit I may have been mistaken, despite the fact you didn't mention the boobies everyone else seems to have no problem talking about and are worried about being investigated and seem to have your paperwork neatly in order like most straight men I know. Rest assured, your assertions of masculinity are enough for me! Wedgie, you have shown the dangers to us all of watching what we put into print since your ability to cut and paste seems unparalled. Brit, by not participating in the fray you have done nothing but draw suspicion to yourself? What are your real motives? What is your agenda? By failing to take a stand you must be wanting someone here to define your politics since you are unwilling to do so yourself. I have forwarded your posts to Bobo, who has a way of discerning intent with minimal information. A love of boobies for boobies sake may seem innocent, but it is bound to make you a target.
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... We here in Australia know him a bit (as much as anyone could really be said to know his inner workings) and if anything ... he seems to be totally amoral more than anything else ... He was one of us once - then became an American because of business expediency. He made Fox News the way it is because he saw a niche that wasn't being filled - as for whether he believes in it - or anything - I'm not entirely sure. If the situation had been reversed with the media, he may well have started a left leaning news service like, I don't know a ?more lefty CNN? We get the impression he'll do anything to increase his influence and power regardless of whether he believes in it or not. Case in point, he dropped BBC World Service from his satellite TV in China because they demanded it as a condition of being able to continue broadcasting there after earlier he'd been banging on (or at least saying something) about something that could be construed as being in favour of democracy or free speech ...
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I was referring, in that post to comments Diana had made, it had little if anything to do with you. You need to read things in context.
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I dont have politics... I just watch a lot of films, think up funny stuff to say about stuff, and post on AICN talkback. But feel free to give me a free personality profile from your friend who does something with something to spot intent... or something.
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There's a story about Murdoch when the Sun were contemplating setting up a separate Scottish Sun. They were concerned because at that time, there was a lot of pro-Unionist shit going down with Murdoch's friends in the Tory government and thought that he wouldn't support a separate paper as it would imply there was a separate country to cater for. They did all this research about how Scottish people wanted their own paper and hired a pipe band and all kinds of Scottish shit to parade up and down while they tried to persuade Murdoch that he wouldn't be de-stabilising the country, just giving people what they want. Just as they're getting into it, Murdoch raises his hand to interrupt and says " Will it sell more papers?" They pause and finally say "...Yes" and Murdoch says "FIne by me". The man does not give a fuck about politics except how it pertains to him making more money. He'd jump on the any bandwagon if he thought there was money in it.
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Jul 25, 2005 6:31:25 PM CDT
Ah Murdoch and the Almighty Dollar, a love affair thorugh the ag
by tonywilson
One boy's dreams of greed and power. Oppurtnists are pretty fucking low bastards.
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i'm full on Mad Max style butch gay. want me to fuck you? i'll use my arm, and a fist full of industrial strength steel wool. don't worry, jesus will still love you in the morning. in fact, Jesus TOLD ME to do it. Amen.
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So he's fine by me, whatever his politics. Anchorite, I'll refute the statement that Tony doesn't have a sense of humor. My evidence is him calling you an asshat and me laughing my ass off. I expect you to honor your word and admit you were wrong on this. Zombie, of course Jesus will love me in the morning, and you too. Jesus loves everyone, even asshats and englishmen. Cod, I envy you and the land where you are from of the smart cunts. Sadly, our cunts here are stupid and you can't have an intelligent conversation with one, all we can do is fuck them. Many of us have longed to have a converation with a vagina, but we have to be satisfied with only licking it or sticking it. Diana, how daring of you to point out your superiority by addressing the failings of others, insted of taking the easy road of letting others acknowledge your wit by . . . hey wait a minute!
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Murdoch will get The Sun to incite a war between the chavs and the muslims, then the socialites and the townies will battle, and mods and rockers might even rumble if they can ruslte up enough numbers, the grebo's, the crusty's and the goths... I'll just make a stand when it all kicks off.. Should I make a stand Mad Max 2 style? Dawn Of The Dead style? Or Braindead style? Although I'll need to buy a lawnmower for that.
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But don't worry, I won't allow anyone to cluster-fuck your whole neighborhood, or whatever 'triangle' you seem to inhabit... (the 'Sunni triangle' is specific? You standing behind that?) I mean, c'mon, can't you see how subjective, and tautological, your argumentation is? The 'reasons' you seem to be basing yourself upon, though your prerogative, are far from 'acceptable' to most people, so you can't use 'them' as justification, no matter how much you may want to. The 'radical terrorists', after all, see themselves as using justified force against greater powers and the violent means at their disposal. That's the catch-22 of U.S. and 'Western' military supremacy, though this is the case for any state with domestic disputes (and partly the logic behind MAD: mutual assured destruction...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutual_assured_destruction). Say what you will, murder is murder. Too bad nobody ever inserted "thy shall use your own brain to think for thyself" in the 'Ten' Commandments... could have spared us much grief...
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It seems this talkback has been busy. Bobo, what the fuck? There was a lot to read here, and after your post jumped out at me, I reread everything looking to see if I was taking it out of context. I thought you had to be just pulling my chain, but as far as I can tell, it looks like you're serious. I'm NOT a republican or democrat or anything. I freely admit I'm not politically knowledgeable enough to join a political party. You seem to find that odd for a college student. Tony said the same thing and explained why, cultural differences and all. If you're not from the US, I suggest you read those posts before slamming me. If you are from the US, what fucking college are you familiar with where there are all these political knowledgeable people running around? It sure as Hell isn't mine. It isn't any of the ones my friends go to. You can call me retarded all you want, but I don't feel in the least stupid or an exceptionally politically naive standout in my peer group. I made a point that at the time I was posting, one side was using tactics which made me lose respect for any serious point they were trying to make. Yes, I think Lando puts together a good argument for whatever case he's making, he backs it up with facts, he answers the criticisms directly that people level at his point of view and doesn't resort to name calling as a first line of attack. Mock liberal arts all you want, but it does give me an ability to recognize irony. Did you even bother to check Lando's links? I did. It gives you a much clearer picture of where he's coming from, you might want to consider that before calling someone braindead or a shadow republican or whatever the shit you were accusing me of. To top it iff, just as Tony and some of the others are politely putting their remarks in context and increasing my respect for their debating skills and point of view, Justice and Anchorite jump in using the SAME tactics I'd originally addressed as lowering the credibility of the person who used them. So just as I found people to respect on both sides, and just as the jackass factor had evened out (i'm not calling anyone a jackass, just referring to a certain style of "debating" both sides have now used about equally), you come in from left field and call me a retard. I try to keep an open mind, like I said, and don't know what side I'm on, but it's definitely not yours. And that doesn't mean I'm a republican based on the logic, "Well, asshole despises republicans. Asshole thinks I've got my head up my ass. I don't wan't to hang out with people like asshole, therefore the republicans must be my people." I haven't had an epiphany or whatever. If you are calling yourself a democratic or a liberal though, you're certainly not doing your group any favors. Of course I suspect that this post means nothing to you, since you already seem convinced that if I'm not on your side, whatever the fuck it is, that's further proof of my idiocy. Or if you mean that a republican is anyone who doesn't hold your position, shit I suspect 99 percent of the world is republican then, from you're point of view. It sounds like you have very little tolerance for someone who is still making up their mind.
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Anyone who cannot see that is fucking blind. Unfortunately, most Republicans are blind, following a man who once said "God speaks through me." You Republicans can crow all you want about how patriotic you are, but the bottom line is you blindly follow an alcoholic religious extremist with bouts of delusion. Mental patients think they are the Second Coming. Presidents shouldn't.
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Bush has DOUBLED the size of the Federal Government. DOUBLED IT. Numbers do not lie. His big spending ways have created MASSIVE deficits, he thinks the government has the write to control a persons sex life, he is trying to keep birth control away from people, and he thinks that public schools should teach that SATAN BURIED DINOSAUR BONES 6 THOUSAND YEARS AGO!!! If that isn't the party of Big Government, I don't know what is. Illiterate redneck.
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Bush has managed the budget of this country as poorly as he's managed our military. While we're getting our asses kicked by a bunch of 3rd World insurgents with diapers over their heads, Bush's blue blood Washington/Wall Street elitest buddies have raided the Treasury. George Bush is an alcoholic blue blood New England elitest, who has said flat-out he thinks he is Jesus. Keep kissing up to George "God Speaks Through Me" Bush... lots of people follow religious fanatics. You holy-rolling ineducated GOOBER. I bet you eat your own boogers and listen to Toby Keith.
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Maybe you're deliberately mis reading my posts to get a rise out of me. If that's so, you got me. If not, I've posted twice that I meant liberal and conservative in political terms. I also never said I would chosse one side or the other based on AICN posts, I said IF I were to do so. IF. I also said because you were an asshole DOESN'T mean I'm going to choose the side you happen to hate. Like I said, I try to have an open mind and have pointed out repeatedly that that's exactly the sort of thinking I try to avoid. So if you're an asshole jew, it doesn't mean I'm going to become a nazi. HOWEVER (and I'll capitalize the keywords here so you won't miss them this time around) if the only jew I ever met raped me, killed my dog and burned down my house, it's only natural I'd be a little leery the next time I met a jew. Just so you understand I DO NOT THINK JEWS GO AROUND RAPING PEOPLE, KILLING DOGS AND BURNING DOWN HOUSES. No, I'm not surrounded by political science majors in my social circles. I tend to be around people for whom talking politics is a guaranteed buzz kill. My point was that do you think anyone is inclined to listen to you, whatever your views, if you address them as moron? Do you get what I'M saying? I've written all this to give you the benefit of the doubt in case you glossed over a word or two that gave you a bizarre understanding of what I was actually saying. If that's the case, no hard feelings either. If it isn't, like I said, you got me. Bitch.
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You are one biggoted ignorant litle shit. You have a brain but you use it to spew such filth and horrible invective you deserve a labotomy. reporting someone on a tb to the FBI, for chrstsakes what a whiny little shit you are. No doubt there will be some machismo bullshit from you, or even one of you rare strays into partially intelligible discourse. But it won't make one fucking jot. Every view you have is based on a sociapthic hatred of some people and solipsistic egotistical complex you must have picked up in highschool. Any argument you make can be explained away by every single rational human being on here. You have nothing but your belief and a loud voice (or the tb equivalent). You are a sad little man who thinks he has perfect views and logic when all it is is flawed undeniable hatred and ignorance. Yeh yeh bring on the stupid fucking comeback. I won't be replying today. Mark my words buddy we'll talk again on here and i will categorically show you up to everyone. Your time as the reigning Khristian shit is at an end.
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on June 4th, 2004 in Ohio, while campaigning in the Amish community. Amazing how you Republicans deny little things called facts. And what's undermining the war effort is how inept Bush is at managing a war. We are losing, because Bush has no basic concept of history or military, because he's to busy claiming that God appears before him every night and tells him what to do. There is nothing worse than old rich drunk who finds religion. You Republicans also not to stop acting like WHINING VICTIMS WITH PERSECUTION COMPLEXES. The way you guys mewl and cry you'd think you DIDN'T control all 3 branches of Government. Boo hoo hoo! By the way, Lando, there is this new thing called science. Well you guys are busy trying to keep a vegetative woman on life support (talk about Big Government!), we Democrats will READING BOOKS and WEARING SHOES and fancy liberal things like that. Moronic goober. Ya just can't bear to hear someone criticize your beloved Federal Government, can you?
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Jul 25, 2005 9:26:56 PM CDT
Did you hear they're changing the name of the Republican Par
by cisco bunny
Durrrrr! I'm gonna invade the wrong country and start a losing war! Durrrr! People like Lando are still trying to argue that Vietnam worked out great.
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Cameron, I hadn't realized that Jesus was the source of Lando's invective until you pointed it out. I'd forgotten that Jesus spent 90 percent of his life turning in people to the Romans, ranting against the homos and founding the Republican Party until you reminded me. Thank God you've taken the time to study history so the rest of us can get on with watching the boobies. Cisco Bunny, your name is indeed superior to Lando's. Whereas his is a weak play on words, you have taken the names of The Cisco Kid and Bugs Bunny and recombined them to form something new. It's like you made The Matrix succinctly using only two words. Your name is indeed a testament to your great wit. I seek the boobies for solace every time I read your name and the inferiority of my own, as well as others overpowers me with angst. That amazing insight into the growth of government proves just how fixed the nobel prizes are, since again, you didn't get the one for economics. Winky, your constant Republican diatribe is starting to wear thin. I didn't need Bobo to point out that you were a mormon, it's obvious in everything you say. You mormons are all liberal arts types who cloak your desire for an endless supply of boobies in religion and mystery. Quit continuing to hawk your right wing views here, have you not learned we are not receptive to them? Bobo, I'm with you man. Reading someone's actual posts is not necessary to get a feel for who they are or their level of intelligence. I'm forwarding some posts to you, in some cases just names, because I'm doing some free lance profiling and need a heavy hitter like yourself who sizes people up quickly. Also, there are some sickly orphan children in need of beating up, so if you're not opposed to some heavy lifting, there may be a ten spot in it for you. Oh and they're retarded to, so they won't remember it and you'll be doing them a favor to boot. Lando, shocking that the powers that be ban you all the time when all your posts relate exclusively to movies. The Man must just be jealous or your physical prowess and sparkling wit, or did you steal Harry's dream girl and this is unending retaliation? It's the only possible explanation for the abuse you've been clearly singled out for. OK, let's play ball.
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Politics no, irony yes. Can't complain becuase you're skewering everybody, yourself included. Cheers, Bobo. And reverse cowboy with a counter clockwise swirl, if it's any of youy business.
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Shit! No wonder everone thinks I'm a dumb ass.
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Your posts have reached such a level of banality, that I hope I speak for others, leftists, conservatives, libertarians, moderates, progressives, independents, free-thinkers, whatever, when I say: FUCK OFF!... Don't get me wrong, I don't think you should get banned... just that your posts have just no merit whatsoever, not anymore, not even as a distraction, so you should really consider backing off to lick your wounds.. if not recapacitate on what you've been saying. For the love of Christ man, Think! To quote Einstein: "for those who would joyously march in rank and file, they have already earned my contempt, for they were given a large brain by accident when a spinal chord would have sufficed." Think Lando, then type. Or... read a book, THEN think, then type. Mind you.. think for yourself... ok?-------p.s. You didn't respond to my last post, nor to my mention of your 'ten commandments' quote in the previous one. But don't worry, I realize you're busy... it seems you're quite popular... congratulations...
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Well, if you can manage the once, then I'm all yours, you studmuffin. And btw, your desperate descriptions of your 'daily life' expose you for the pathetic troll that you are... I'm betting a high-school geek... that's the level of intelligence you are demonstrating if you think that whenever anybody uses 'difficult' words it means they are automatically using the thesaurus... what, everybody needs to act like they only use half of their brain when they 'debate' you??? Go back to your article and see if you can finally get past your name... (tip: put an X and get back to it later, ask mommy during supper, try not to drool when asking).
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I'd like to buy you all some Coke. Including, and especially, the wonderful Mr. Murphy.
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If you claim to support the war so much, why haven't you enlisted? You keep talking about how much more patriotic you are... In case you haven't noticed, we are in a recruitment crisis. For the past 8 months, the military has missed it'e recruitment goal by 65%. If Young Republicans like you don't put your money where your mouth is, retreat and surrender will soon be our only option in Iraq. It is truly a testament to how deeply Buish has damaged and demoralized the military that not even those who support the war are willing to enlist. Republicans are cowards and traitors to America.
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Wow! I just saw a great new trailer for V for Vendetta and decided to come to this talkback to talk about it. Oh never mind. Doesn't seem to be an available pew anywhere. Please keep relatively close to topic. At least within the same century.
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or he'll roid-out and run full tilt at your car. He's said it himself. I'm glad for V for Vendetta. I love it when stupid people get angry at art they don't understand. Remember that guy in Colorado, the Dildo Bandito? I'll bet he and Lando are buddies. Who the fuck goes to the gym to use their laptop? I doubt anyone has ever paid you to write anything, much less paid you to teach people how to write. Go grab your falafel and jump in the shower with your "girlfriend." V for Vendetta looks great. Remember, remember the 5th of November!
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Hohoho. Yes you really must be a sad little man. You have angered me have you? Unlikely. Ants in the afterbirth like you annoy me. I've seen plenty of your posts and it's obvious to anyone that your logic reaches as far as your own personal experience, which despite your no doubt silly protestations is severely limited. Let's take you apart a point at a time. Why did you mention racial hatred? At no point have a said or intimated such a thing. You silly little man. Bodybuilder are you? Hope that terrible acne clears up for you soon. I wouldn't say it to your face? Why not? Are you trying to say I'd be scared or too chickenshit to insult a bodybuilder? Hohoho. Bodybuilders are notoriously poor at being intimidating, laughable yes. intimidating no. But then you probably aren't really a bodybuilder just like you don't have a the perfect physique and whatever other egotistical crap you spew whether in jest or in all seriousness. I said your views are based on ignorance and a solipsistic superiority complex, your views on poker or floor tiles or anything else are influenced by your ridiculous ego. I'm not zombiesolutions, I used one word that he uses because it happens to piss you off and is quite an amusing way of talking about Christians with your views. Of which there are far too many these days. Your views on gays and the terrorism issue are an absolutely perfect example of your stupidity, at no point have you been able to defend in them in any reasonable way. Just more bullshit about what generals think. And more crap about the bible and what is "natural". I agree with you on one thing. That you talk bullshit and it baffles people. Well done asskiss, you are a very accomplished bullshitter. Ah and your last little dig at me about the library. What point could you possibly be trying to make I wonder? Why don't you be a dear and enlighten us all.
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Jul 26, 2005 4:37:18 AM CDT
The Number Of Posts Proves How Much Interest There Is In This Mo
by red lantern
I posted this before but something happened to it. This talkback has hundreds more posts than any other one, so it looks to me like this is probably going to do well. If this doesn't prove a Watchmen movie should be made, I don't know what does.
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Jul 26, 2005 5:12:50 AM CDT
If You'd Been Paying Attention, I Think Someone Pointed Out
by theallseeingeye
Ah...so that's where Northampton is? I was always under the impression it was in the midlands. Oh well.
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I mean IF you are too much of a pussy to worry about getting banned again that's fine.
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You act just as big and bad behind your monitor you dumb freak. Talk about the movie? Hohoho, that rich coming from you. Ignorant little circle jerk. You have no place telling me to talk about the movie. Doc can tell me, he can ban me if he chooses, but you can lick my balls, chickenshit.
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Jul 26, 2005 8:14:30 AM CDT
Lando... hahaha! "Oooh, we must stay on topic... thanks for not
by octaveaeon
Ever stop to think WHY you've been getting banned? Learn how to debate without resorting to insults and (very) broad, and extreme, generalizations... or threats (that whole FBI thing was pathetic, and I'd beat the shit out of you if you ever tried anything similar with me... I'll even meet you after gym... I work out too y'know [silly smily symbol]). How about toning down your "I can say whatever I want" attitude... oh, yeah, you already are... how conciliatory (everybody can see through you, loser).******* On another, yet related (also with V, this movie deals with the ideological basis behind state-sponsored and individually motivated uses of violence, and how they are justified, at least that's what I got out of the trailer), I've just watched Blair attempt to put a brave face to the curtailment in domestic civil liberties as a means to combat 'terrorism' and its 'ideological basis'. To paraphrase him : "we've got to combat the sort of ideology that justifies the death of innocent civilians". Oh deary me, really Tony? Then I'd suggest you take more care of the trail of "collateral victims" you leave behind whenever you back heavy-handed military incursions in other peoples territory, because many in these regions - the families of the victims for example - feel you have a sligthly cavalier attitude to the specific interests of civilians and civilian infrastructure, what with the way they seem to be used as cannon fodder by both sides... but more plainly by the way that no effort has been placed by any of the coalition members to keep a record of the amount of civilian deaths that have accrued since the invasion began! (which, according to an independent report, goes nearly up to 25,000, though they said this number is very conservative, and should nevertheless be verified, which is partly the reasoning behind the report: to force the goverments responsible to publish the full list of casualties, not only of 'their own people', http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4692589.stm) No, Iraq is not, and should not, be the final justification for 'these terrorists', but it is an argument that they use to 'radicalize' angry youths around the world that sympathize with 'their cause'. But, unless you attempt to understand the 'ideological basis' of their cause, instead of simply dismissing it just because it is 'non-negotiable' (as opposed to the IRA use of terrorism, which backed by a republican-inspired ideology, apparently was negotionable), you'll just be running around in circles while the fundamental problems continue to build up (which is usually the short-term strategy preferred by most governments). Aaaah, watching Blair walk through this minefield was... I actually felt sorry for him... he seemed to be losing even more of his grip on reality, and you could also see more clearly through the facade of his usually stoic composure. I actually felt sorry for him... if he makes it to the end of his term in office, he'll either be completely gray or practically bald. Either way, he'll be lucky. State-sponsered violence resulting in civilian deaths, when perpetrated by 'Western democracies' in the name of 'freedom, democracy, and human rights (and free trade)', has more of a leeway when it comes to how they apply force, and the consequences these unleash. The priviledge attached to any leadership function that is backed by this ideological apparatus is that you can act like a terrorist when in office, even if it means having to put up with criticism, ridicule, or even desdain, but in the end, once you've weathered all the trials and tribulations inherent in your CAREER choice, you have the ability to enjoy your 'golden' years living like a king with the royalties of guest-speeches and candid 'auto'-biographies (if you haven't secured 'other' means while in office). Just look at Clinton.
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I agree. I hope that the success of this film helps get a Watchmen movie made too. I am looking forward to this on its own merits, but I still hope that one of the perks of it being successful (if it's successful) will be more support in Hollywood for 'Watchmen.'
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Has anybody else read "The Filth" by Grant Morrison, and do you think it would make a good movie? (if so, Terry Gilliam should helm, ofcourse...)
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Jul 26, 2005 12:54:32 PM CDT
"you are nothing but another little pissant for me to step on on
by octaveaeon
yeah, you tell 'im big-boy... (remember, greed is good). And don't forget to take down the poster of Conan the Barbarian when you 'invite' your first 'girlfriend'...
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Yeah, a 'big' loser and a 'bad' debater. And as far as pussy, or bitches, are concerned, take it while you can. Who knows when you'll run into anymore again...
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I'm convinced you've lost your grip on 'reality'. However, I do take back the 'loser' and the ad hominem attacks... no need to stoop to your level. That doesn't take away that you're a coward, and delusional, for not only calling the FBI, but thinking that is going to help you on your war on terrorism... That may have been the case, if the FBI had been allowed to follow up on their investigations concerning the 9-11 hijackers BEFORE 9-11, but they had been strangely obstructed from above. THINK Lando! Do some RESEARCH. There's more going on than what you see, hear, or read in the news. 'Consider the following cases, all drawn from mainstream news sources, summarized in David Ray Griffin's well-researched expose, "The New Pearl Harbor":
1) Ken Williams of the Phoenix FBI office sent a now-famous July 10, 2001 memo to the counterterrorism division of the FBI suggesting that the organization institute a national program to keep tabs on suspicious flight-school students. This came just a few weeks after the CIA learned that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the mastermind of the 9/11 plot and a well-known terrorist at that time who the CIA was monitoring, was recruiting jihadists to come to the US to take part in attacks here. Williams, who had previously been transferred to an unrelated arson case despite tracking the hijackers for more than a year, had been back on the case for about a month when he wrote the memo, which also warned of a possible -
Jul 26, 2005 1:25:59 PM CDT
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_proje
by octaveaeon
That should keep you busy until Armageddon... (not the movie)
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So many bad asses so little logical, humorous, or even slightly interesting debate. Has anyone even mentioned V in the last say 30 posts? why doesn't everyone just go ahead and whip out thier little beckers and see who's is the biggest before someone gets emotionally hurt
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by the way this isn't a 500 word essay on insults, so if you can't get your point across within 20 words or less just shut up. This is supposed to be fun and amusing not a pissing contest
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I read this thread from start to finish...I am crying hysterically with laughter. Oop...I may have pee'd a little too.....
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I'm paraphrasing here but basically you expect to shut me up by saying- "Your not big and bad,I'm big and bad...wah wah wah" Hahaha.
Yeh yeh go stamp your feet and cry to mommy. So come on then you cretin, step on me. Go ahead. Oh wait you can't you dumb monkey. You just practically said "I know you are but what am I." Hohoho. I didn't think you would be that easy to show up but you obviously are. My mother is a great ball licker but your dad has her paid up until the end of the month as his Misstress, she's twisting his balls in a vice right now. He's such a masochist because he can't believe he spawned such a fuck up as you. He needs to hurt for it. You got nothing left asskiss your spent. Go to the gym and do some more reps, do some more steroids to get those bitch tits really swinging. Then comeback when you can prove what a badass you are and what a coward I am. Go on you whiny bitch get out. -
I have at no point tried to act badass or to come accross that way. I insulted you while at the same time taking your points apart one at a time. You just started with the flaming like the whiny slut you are. I don't claim to be brave or a coward the only one bitching about it is you.
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Get back on topic, you naughty boys!!! Can someone please tell me what V is about because I know ABSOLUTELY nothing about it or who wrote it or anything... All I know is that is about a fictitious nazi England??? portman has a shaved head... theres a funny guy-fawkes-esqe mask on the poster and Hugo Weaving is zorro.... how many rights did I get???
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Jul 26, 2005 3:20:34 PM CDT
So I went through the whole talk-back, and no one seems to want
by iamnicksaicnsn
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I can see why you'd be confused, there hasn't been a lot of help from some of these posts. V was a graphic novel written by american Alan Moore that was sort of like 1984. V is a terrorist and wears a Guy Fawkes mask. He's waging what amounts to basically a one man war against the government. It's a pretty simple plot, 1984 with more action. What males it work is the quality of the writing, the plot's been used a few times before (I just realized how weak it sounded when typing this). You got them all right. Natalie Portman plays a character befriended by V and their relationship is a large part of the story.
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Jul 26, 2005 3:28:49 PM CDT
[Oops] and no one seems to want to back up the "Wilson outed his
by iamnicksaicnsn
Are you saying that he had his wife's name on his website? Because that's true, he did say that he was married to a woman named Valerie, and that she took his last name. But as of right now, it seems that Karl Rove and Libby (Cheney's chief of staff) might not be the only ones holding stuff back, apparently AG Gonzales was messing with the investigation. http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/bush_leak_dc;_ylt=AiyCsQqFynyKL1ey3CZTtjhh24cA;_ylu=X3oDMTA4NGRzMjRtBHNlYwMxNjk5) and here is a Republican former CIA Agent speaking on the fact that Valerie Plame was very much an undercover CIA operative. http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050723/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/democrats_cia_leak_1
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Jul 26, 2005 3:30:13 PM CDT
and what's up with Weaving's accent? he sounds almost ex
by iamnicksaicnsn
Looks to be a sick movie.
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It sounds like its worth a look - But I'm into Natalie so I'd watch a pile of cow shit if it looked a bit like her!!!
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which is what I will give Ms. Portman if I ever get half a chance. For those of you who think the 12 year old boy cracks are funny, they're not. I don't want to fuck 12 year old boys. I DO want to fuck Natalie Portman. Therefore, she can't look like a 12 year old boy.
As for her boobies, just google the St. Bart's pictures, or watch Closer. No they ain't huge ... but they're nice ! -
Alan Moore is 51 years old. He was born in Northampton, England, an industrial town. He has lived in Northampton for much of his life. He currently lives in Northampton, quite close to his childhood home. He has never lived in the U.S.A.
I believe those referring to Moore as a "U.S. writer" are confusing him with Neil Gaiman, who was born in England but has lived for some years in Minnesota, a place not unlike the North of England, but much colder.
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Jul 26, 2005 5:39:48 PM CDT
For all the normal people who just want a quck precis of asskiss
by cameron1
"I have a tiny penis a crap job and no social life, I come on to TB's to talk shit about issues I know nothing about, I insult people because I can't make a coherent argument to save my life and my brain is fried from all the steroids I took." *******
Oh asskiss your falling apart, someone has decided to take you to pieces in a funny yet insightful way and all you do is bitch and whine like the crack baby you really are. I was glad you recieved the money i sent to "give whiny bitches another chance" but I hate to tell you it was for your frontal lobe labotomy not a statue. Well when you are drooling (even more than you are now) over you computer, racking what's left of your brain for anything at all you can say back to me, I'm sure that imaginary statue will help you think. Good God you are easier than your mother, at least she cost me 2 dollars and some self esteem. Mind you she did beg me to fuck her, said she needed a real big cock like mine instead of your little pinky. You haven't been able to answer back to any of my questions because you know to do so will show you up as the biggoted crack baby you are. You are one crazy delusional freak asskiss, your also hours of entertainment. Like father like son indeed. -
Jul 26, 2005 5:47:24 PM CDT
I WOULD STILL LIKE TO KNOW HOW WILSON OUTED HIS WIFE!!!
by iamnicksaicnsn
JEsus, get off your high horses and let's have a reasonable fuckin debate here, fucking h christ.
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Jul 26, 2005 6:06:29 PM CDT
asskiss/powerMENtal1, take a deep breath, swing your bitch tits
by cameron1
I'm off for today. Goodnight to everyone else.
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In case anyone is still interested. His mother was a Spaniard whose family were mostly killed in the civil war. He is on record as saying he hated her for her club foot and alchohol problem but loved her for her Soclialist ideals and darts playing ability. His father was a coal miner by day and Russian dancer by night. This is what is believed to have given the young Alan both his love of alter-ego'd superheroes and of carbon and carbon-based goods. He has fourteen rings on his fingers, all of them in the shape of Lovecraft daemons, except for one Hello Kitty diamond ring, a present from Jude Law. His newest hobby is croquet. He no longer writes comics, preferring to bitch about them to journalists who haven't read anything he has written since 1991. He is curently 'plotting' several comics to keep his daughter employed and off state benefit. Alan Moore is a member of the Keep Kermit Green Society and a bif fan of Nip/Tuck. He saYS "Dr. Troy is both dishy AND dastardly. He turns me on with his good looks and easy charm and then off with his lack of commitment and weird attraction to his business partner. I like his vulnerablility around his black baby"
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I hear there's a movie being made of this. Anyone heard anything?
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http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/07/25/rove.problem.tm.tm/ TonyWilson out.
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Why is it that, in any TalkBack where it's not wildly inappropriate, conversations end up becoming about religion, homosexuality, race relations, the war in Iraq, or whether or not King Arthur really existed? We get it, guys: you know anything about everything. Please stop.
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Hey as long as they keep a psychotic Glaswegian in the film I'll be happy. Someone mentioned the Filth above - that also had a ridiculous sexy violent Scottish lady in. And I believe Morrison also wrote the new X-Men when we jumped forward 150 years to when Beast ruled the world. The stupid whale-man thing? Scotland again my friend. And how about the so-bad-it's-good Ultimate X-Men arc where there was a secret mutant halfway house behind Cenral Station in Glasgow and where Proteus lures Xavier to Germany to kill him because he was a big Rangers fan and that's where Rangers drew with Borussia Dortmund? He's knocking fuck out of the Xmen wearing the old Rangers NTL shirt!!! Fucking ridiculous. More psycho Glaswegians in movies please. I think we all want that.
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I see you're choosing the 'blame the CIA' strategy. Good choice. It worked on 9-11 and Iraqi WMD after all, it should be applicable one more time. I too think that neither Bush, Rumsfeld, Rove, or whomever, have ever acted contrary to what they have publicly stated. It's obvious, why can't others see this? I guess people will always see what they want to see. Sad but true. You and me together Anchorite... maybe we can make a difference! What do you say? There's plenty of people out there to blame after all... we just have to make sure that we don't give away an inch... ok? BTW, next sunday, my place. Strategy meeting. Don't forget the bible (just in case we need guidance... and if we can't reach God, maybe brother George can fill in... he may have the 'gift').
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WHO GIVES A FUCK? I DON@T LIVE IN YOUR COUNTRY AND I DON'T CARE. MANY PEOPLE ALSO DO NOT LOVE IN YOUR COUNTRY AND MANY PEOPLE DO NOT GIVE A FUCK. OH I KNOW WHY DON'T I POST SOMETHING ABOUT A MOVIE. FUCK THAT THIS IS NOT A MOVIE SITE. WHY AM I SHOUTING? BECAUSE IT IS AFTER ONE IN THE MORNING AND I SHOULD BE UP IN FIVE HOURS. I KNOW IT IS MY OWN FAULT FOR BEING AWAKE. I STILL DO NOT CARE
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Not the 75% rum I am on. You make me sick, all of you
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Next time supply your own link, it makes a better impression and mitigates accusations that you are being less than forthcoming. Don't worry, I've already started writing down some of the points we need to adress when we meet, and these sort of things are included in the Rhetoric 101 module I'm preparing. Next up is Hobbesianism (you know, the 'state of nature' argument, although Latour has recently made a good case why the Leviathan has yet to manifest itself...), Machiavelianism, and Platonism (The Republic, duh!). We should be ending with a good jolt of Straussianism, in order to prepare us for the inevitable backlash. That way we can present ourselves one way, while staying true to our convictions, seeing that our 'honesty' was nevertheless in display... it's just the ignorant and unbelievers who lack the 'vision'. Anyways, this is all just for the first session. We'll see where we go from there, after going over the minutes from the first meeting.** Oh man, I'm so looking forward to next decade... aren't you? I tell you, we are going to get every single terrorist out there if it means sending my own maid's children. You with me?
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Next time supply your own link, it makes a better impression and mitigates accusations that you are being less than forthcoming. Don't worry, I've already started writing down some of the points we need to adress when we meet, and these sort of things are included in the Rhetoric 101 module I'm preparing. Next up is Hobbesianism (you know, the 'state of nature' argument, although Latour has recently made a good case why the Leviathan has yet to manifest itself...), Machiavelianism, and Platonism (The Republic, duh!). We should be ending with a good jolt of Straussianism, in order to prepare us for the inevitable backlash. That way we can present ourselves one way, while staying true to our convictions, seeing that our 'honesty' was nevertheless in display... it's just the ignorant and unbelievers who lack the 'vision'. Anyways, this is all just for the first session. We'll see where we go from there, after going over the minutes from the first meeting.** Oh man, I'm so looking forward to next decade... aren't you? I tell you, we are going to get every single terrorist out there if it means sending my own maid's children. You with me?
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I don't know where you learned all that suff about Alan Moore, but it's cool that you're so knowledgeable. THAT'S the kind of stuff you expect people to talk about. The actual film or the material it's based on. We're having an intelligent conversation on the Superman thread that is actually based on the movie and the comic books. If you post there, your insights will probably be appreciated. You seem pretty smart.
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I have done my research... I think I'll swing by that 'Superman' talkback, thoug I don't really like these new comic heroes.
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I'm telling you, the time is ripe for these kind of stories... our 'reality' as it is is already bursting at its seams... If get out of 'post-modernism' without a clear social/cultural reference point or other, we will be inundated in a plurality (cacophony) of identity struggles... Everybody has something to say, everybody wants rights, everybody wants this, or that.. but also everyone is scared, unsure about where the future is taking us, whom should 'lead' (too bad so many are still on 'sheep' mode, even if they claim the contrary), or what ideology we should adopt. And as long we continue the same old power struggles, well, we might as well forget about tackling the really serious issues when they hit us in the face, namely peak oil and environmental disasters. What, people already forgot about the Secret report by the Pentagon warning about possible scenarios related to environmental disasters (which could explain Bush's and other conservative's aloofness... they're probably thinkin, 'what's the use, its going to happen anyways, so let's make sure we're in a position to take advantage once this truly Hobbesian scenario falls upon us') [http://www.isn.ethz.ch/news/sw/details_print.cfm?id=8384]. You know, sometimes I wonder why I bother... (oh, yeah, my unborn children... and their children... silly, silly me)
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I have to confess that despite being both a relatively intelligent chap, philosophy graduate and all that; as well as a comic fan, I didn't really understand The Filth. I don't think it was that I was that stupid or inattentive, I think it was just obtuseley written. In the end I didn't care that much to follow the story becaue it wasn't that good. I liked the cat - I like cats. I liked that he was pissed off and homicidal when his cat died. I too would fuck up anyone who killed ny cat. But my cat is special and nice
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Jul 26, 2005 8:25:20 PM CDT
Just because she said he had good contacts doesn't mean he h
by iamnicksaicnsn
As I recall they are the parents to twins or something, what reason would she have to send him on a serious trip? Good contacts could mean he knows some people who could help out. ____ And as for that Amici Curiae brief, that blogger quaintly left out that the brief is to argue that Matt Cooper and Judith Miller haven't committed any crimes, not Rove. But let's keep things civil if you want to keep going with this, I don't want to resort to name calling.
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Are you talking about wrestling?
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in that it wasn't perfect. I myself have to admit that I don't know much about comics... I never read them simply because I didn't have access to them, but I did love them when I read them (usually the DC, Marvel stuff). I bought The Filth one day when I came across it (on my way to the philosophy section, no less...), and it immediately grabbed my attention. And although it had some very interesting parts, as a whole it didn't match my own vision of what is possible with this theme. For that you need to use different mediums simultaneaously, otherwise you run the risk of playing for gimmicry, or under/over-exposing the themes and ideas. This is also what happened to 'The Matrix' trilogy.**** I'm glad to hear you liked the cat... I kind of liked the monkey. The flying sperm cells left me a bit non-plussed though...
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lives in Colorado, no?
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As good as the trailer looks I'm pissed off that Natalie Portman couldn't get a decent English accent. She sounds like Bridget Jones not the common as muck cockney Evey is meant to be. Portman plays it far too posh.
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Jul 27, 2005 12:03:18 PM CDT
anchorite you dumb shit. You wouldn't know a fact if it smac
by cameron1
FACT- Rove has a history of sliming opponents like this
FACT- The name was leaked and Rove has said he didn't mention her by name. Not that he didn't mention her.
Whether it's a criminal matter is, I agree something else entirely. That Rove is manipualtive unethical pondscum is unquestionable. -
Give it up dude... me and anchorite are like this (crosses index and middle finger)... we do not only have FACTS to back us up, but also the TRUTH. Our eyes are wide open (they better be, otherwise we went through two virgins for no reason), and our army is everywhere but invisible. Fate is on our side. The Temple will rise! Bwaaaahaaahaaahaaaa!!! Oops, sorry.
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But you are being satrirical right?
The invisible army is everywhere? Yeh that's it I'm giving up now there is an invisible army around.
And you have facts to back what up with? I said Rove, through his attorney, confirmed he didn't mention her by name. Not that he didn't mention her. That is a fact. And I said he had a history of sliming people like this. Also a fact. I also said he was unethical and manipulative pondscum. Ok he isn't actually pondscum, it's a metaphor. The rest is truth. -
We will finally build the Republic that Plato envisioned... after thousands of years of keeping alive the ancient wisdom... Soon, the TRUTH will be unveiled... soon... (repeats evil laugh) ****
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Jul 28, 2005 9:18:21 AM CDT
Padded Jacket? No. Vaulting the turnstile? No. Cretins who will
by dog of mystery
"The family of the Brazilian man shot dead by marksmen who mistook him for a suicide bomber revealed last night how police have changed their account of the incident. As the body of Jean Charles de Menezes was flown home to Brazil for his funeral later today, his cousin said that senior officers at Scotland Yard have retracted claims that the 27-year-old electrician was acting suspiciously, so officers had no option but to open fire. Vivien Figueiredo, 22, said police told her that he was wearing a lightweight denim jacket and not some bulky coat that could have hidden an explosive belt underneath. Detectives also claimed immediately after the shooting that Mr Menezes had refused to heed shouted warnings by armed police and vaulted the ticket barriers at Stockwell Tube station. Now police say that he used his travelcard to gain access to the station. Ms Figueiredo said:
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Everything "we" do is a tragic mistake. It's also tragic that "we" not only let this happen, but also perpetuate the undelying reasons behind "our" predicament. Now stop letting everyone in on "our" little secret... that the entire universe revolves around "us". Its over between us anchorite. Too bad... we had such a good thing going...
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a lot of stupid shit. Beginning with an arrogant view on the supremacy of our 'ideals', as if they were the sole product of our imagination. You know, 'freedom' and 'democracy' are not as alien to the middle east as we'd like to think, despite the fact that governments we have supported in this region have been (and still are, like Saudi Arabia and Egypt... or Pakistan) antithetical to such ideals. But also our dependence on the economic structure of our societies, which not only tend to rely (to remain competitive) on cheap resources and cheap labour, but also on ever growing markets in which to sell our products (nevermind the ecological consequences!). And also our political systems, that despite the fact that we already realize that they are incapable of meeting sufficiently and adequately our most pressing needs, nevermind any future ones, we nevertheless rely on the continuation of the status quo (going from 'left' to 'right' every few years is not 'democracy' as far as i'm concerned... what about all the other alternatives?)!. To continue...next comes.. geo-strategic problems... For sure, the diplomatic shenanigans have reached their limit of effectivity... even Kim Jong-il is well-versed in the arts of realpolitik, as bizarre as that may sound, so 'pretending' anything in front of cameras has proven the facticity of the law of diminishing returns. What's maddening is that, despite movies like Bulworth or Network, we let things continue their merry way. Very weak (and sheepish). Anyways, these are a few of the 'things' we are perpetuating. I've got more, and it can get more complicated... to give you an example, let me quote from a piece I wrote a few months ago, if that's ok...: "The normalization of war (and fear) and the perpetuation of current systems of control impinge on our ability to collectively address critical dilemmas due to the oppressive ontological nature of actual intra-subjective relations and the organizational context in which these exist [I know.. I never got around to improving this piece... so bear with me]. In fact, the more we think of alternatives, the more we entrench ourselves in pre-existing social and cultural paradigms that by consensual identification elicit a tacit approval of the reified construct, be it the nation-state, free-market capitalism, or even the nuclear family. In other words, our very participation in socio-cultural, political, economical, and even personal networks, perpetuate the ideological basis underlying each of these commitments. The reason why I call them constructs is that they are in effect created by us, through a long period of time and within changing contexts and circumstances, bringing to the fore all kind of factors that in the end it is the historians job (as accepted by most) to re-construct. They are phenomenological creations that, ongoing naturalist/realist/positivist etc. debates notwithstanding, help us make sense and, in effect, engage with the ontological nature of
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like he did in the previous 'discussion': http://www.aintitcool.com/tb_display.cgi?id=20675 - You and Landoasskisser must be the 'silent' types... argumentation by means of stealth tactics... very effective, though not as effective as the stealthy use of democracy and freedom by 'the coalition' forces. Ha ha, the Phantom Menace ... you nailed it Lucas, somehow, you nailed it...
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That would make sense, if it weren't for the fact that you are still insisting in this thread... And don't worry about replying either, I already get what makes you tick, so unless you can take more of an objective stance concerning your own views, I feel we'll be running around in circles here as well... Anyways, may I recommend you get acquainted with issues such as the subject/object debate, philosophy of science, what is 'truth', and philosophy of language? ... not to impress your drinking buddies and your girlfriends parents, but so that next time you have a discussion that reaches an impasse, you may have a better reason why. ** http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subject-object_problem * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy_of_science * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy_of_language. It helps mimimize the frustration...
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