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Foreign Trailer for Polanski's OLIVER TWIST
Hey folks, Harry here with the latest look at Roman Polanski's OLIVER TWIST - a film that I hope will be one of the best films of this year. Now - when Piotro Pinkie was a pre-wee man, he was a wee child on the cobblestone streets behind the Iron Curtain. He's told me stories of the orphan community that lived in the sewers beneath Budapest and how he and his wee brethern took down foreign tourists and rolled them for every stich of clothing and roll of filthy lucre they had. So, it was only appropriate that our very own Ollie Twist would track down this trailer. Unless you speak the non-American that this trailer is in, you won't learn much more than that the film looks to be wonderfully shot - and that the performances look quite intriguing. Once again - can't wait to see this one!
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The movie will be renamed Olivia Twist, with Dakota Fanning in the lead role. Unrated, illegal in 112 countries.
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o ya Roman Polanski is one good director/escaped convict
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It doesn't even offer a glimpse of Fagin or Dodger. I guess "Please, sir, I want some more" is iconic enough, and it's cool to see a trailer that doesn't show off the whole movie. No doubt that will be fixed when we get a trailer intended for the States.
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He's the greatest rapist working in cinema today. Besides that guy who made Aliens vs. Predator.
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Jul 20, 2005 8:49:03 AM CDT
JacksonBane - have you seen Tess..? I would bet my last farthin
by workshed
The photography looks perfection, the cast is a dream and Oliver looks like Dickens' hero without the cutesipoo schtick.
Remember you're seeing less than one minute of film from a two hour movie (most likely three hours if the book is to be served well) from a director who is an acknowleged master of the craft. I don't have to name the films and, yes, he's had a lengthy 'blip' but 'The Pianist' was a definite return to form and passion. After Shakespeare, Homer and Cervantes, Dickens is the greatest storyteller of all-time and this is prime source material that hasn't been 'done right' for nearly fourty years. Polanski, you sick bastard, I wish I had one twentieth of your talent with a camera. -
Jul 20, 2005 11:14:42 AM CDT
an overrated director more famous for being a jerk than his work
by rivercb
The Pianist sucked. Admit it. He was going to get critical support for it no matter what. Holocaust = Oscar. Rwandan genocide = an invitation to the Vanity Fair after party.
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Heard it today. Sad.
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that fucking sucks. why not kirk god? why not kirk!?
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Jul 20, 2005 11:31:17 AM CDT
Way to stay on top of the news guys. now we have to comment on S
by i dunno
James Doohan had a kid at age 80. That's a pimp. RIP, Scotty
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Jul 20, 2005 11:31:43 AM CDT
In his personal life Polanksi has done one very fucked up thing,
by tonywilson
I'm just throwing this out there, I don't know myself.
He's certainly not overrated, has anyone seen "The Tennant"? It's magnificent.
This looks ok, but I'm so bored with the Oliver Twist story. -
Jul 20, 2005 12:13:12 PM CDT
Roman Polanski is among the greatest of all directors
by stanley spector
Rosemary's Baby is one of only two American films that I would call perfect (the other one being Woody Allen's Manhattan), and the other two films in Polanski's apartment-dwelling trilogy, Repulsion and The Tenant, while not quite as good as Rosemary, are also masterpieces.
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well, you're right that he's made some really good films and his personal life shouldn't matter with this film. But it's hard to speak well of a guy who's notorious for being an asshole tyrant and had a series of affairs with teenage girls just a few weeks after his wife had just died. He blamed it the trauma of his wife's death but he admitted cheating on her while she was alive anyway. With his lawsuit that's going on, I find it hard to sympathize with a man who claims that an article has damaged his reputation when his own behaviour has done that 10 fold already.
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He wouldn't have a "body of work" (at least not as much) if he'd faced up to his crimes and been a real man and served his time in the justice system. Instead, he runs to France to hide from justice and (probably) pork more young girls up the ass. So yes, screw his body of work.
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Jul 20, 2005 12:43:00 PM CDT
Montel, I think we're forgetting something very important in
by theaflacduck
Okay, sure, he had sex with some children, but, the man is a great director and he has entertained us for so many years. All this baad-mouthin', puttin' the man down. Maybe he does sleep with some children now and then, but come on! It's Roman Polanski! Roman Polanski!
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Jul 20, 2005 12:46:04 PM CDT
All the films that I believe are of any value were made before w
by tonywilson
His later films are pretty crappy. The Pianist is ok but it's Adrien Brody who really makes that film work. Gauguin had sex with and eventually married a 13 yr old but I don't think you can discount his work either.
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It is being directed by John Moore. Flight of the Pheonix.
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Is this gonna be a wide or limited release in America?? And why is it an English film and coming out in Europe before the USA???
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And they should get the kid who plays Harry Potter to play the new Damien Thorne.
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Being able to explore the work without being affected by the man behind it - despite the artist obviously putting a lot of himself in the work. Frankly I'm shocked no one's mentioned Chinatown. For my money his films are great, prescient things that show a great knowledge of the falacies of our time. And a lot of decadence and depravity. Polanski is not without his honor. Bah, the fact that he fucked around so much, and with young girls, is hardly that condemning these days. If anything, it's overstated. Can you appreciate MJs music without the kiddie touching? Man, he's gotten off easier than Polanski ever did.
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But sex with a 13 year old IS rape.
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If he'd done his 2-3 year sentance, 'cause that's gennerally what a 1st time offender pedophile gets, and then gone back to making films, i'd have less of a problem with him. The fact that he victimized a little girl and then ran away from facing the consequences of his actions brands him as a scumbag and I don't care if he makes the best movie ever made. It's my opinion and i fully admit it could be considered extreme, but there it is.
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Jul 20, 2005 2:22:30 PM CDT
"Holocaust = Oscar. Rwandan genocide = an invitation to the Vani
by www.valiens.com
That quote is genius.
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...I think that gives him the right to make a personal film of the subject. And let's not forget his performance in Wajda's 'Pokolenie' - not much acting required for that particular flick. Yet, I'm a firm believer that he should have done his sentence. It's a shame that such a gifted man had his soul removed at such an early age by having to witness Nazi atrocities. The movie 'Repulsion' tells us the most about his psyche - completely f*cked. 'Chinatown' is, undoubtedly, his masterpiece.
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Where this overrated asshole film director rapes an underage girl and then flees the country to avoid prosecution? Man I know he was in it...
GFY -
Blasting on his work because he raped a 13 year old girl makes you look stupid.
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By saying he is a crappy or overrated director and then linking it with what he did you are actually diminishing the severity of the crime.
Consider; "he raped a 13 yr old, so I'm going to say his films are overrated" -
I'm not sure if that last post was me. I never said he was over rated. I never said his films were bad. I pretty meant that (for me personally) i'm not going to support or cheer the achievments of a scum sucking child raper. If I made it sound like I was attacking his skill, I appologize. I actually wouldn't know how skilled he is, nor care, as I don't watch his films anymore. The ones i did see, "Rosemary's Baby" and "China Town" were good, I'll give credit where it's due.
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Polanski has apologised for what he's done, his victim has gone on record and said she knows that if he could undo he would. He did it once and has never done anything like that again. Is it possible to, if not forgive, then give him a second chance? I really think if he had served his time then people on here wouldn't bear such ill will towards him. He really fucked up his life by running.
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as I said, my only problem with the guy is he didn't and still doesn't take the responsibility for his actions. Apologizing is great. The victim's support is nice too, you see that all the time in domestic violence cases. If he REALLY was sorry, he'd surrender himself and do his time. I'd even bet that as he can show that he's lead a "proper" and "productive" life after the crime, he'd do minimal custody time IF ANY. His apology would be worth more than words then.
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Man with Knife: "You're a very nosy fellow, kitty cat. Huh? You know what happens to nosy fellows? Huh? No? Wanna guess? Huh? No? Okay."...
I agree it's repulsive what Roman did to deserve his Tinseltown exile, but then again it's...well, it's---"Chinatown, Jake; Chinatown," when you start down the path of debating moral issues and film industry people and their double standards. And when I start to think about Sharon's butchering...which is not to excuse anything....
Reminds me of what Jack Nicholson said once about the ratings board (to paraphrase from memory): "You suck a nipple, it's an 'X'; cut it off, it's an 'R.'"....Which is all just to say, it's a film forum so I'm just going to judge him on the basis of his work. And at his best, there are touches of genius. At worst, his films are always interesting, even if only to look at the choices he makes....Bring Ollie Twist on...Leave the Twisted stuff aside for some other time or place. My own opinion, of course. But anyway... -
Jul 20, 2005 4:12:00 PM CDT
Cagirl, were you being sarcastic with the domestic violence comm
by tonywilson
I really couldnt tell.
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What also bugs me about this guy is that he used his position as a director to carry out his crime. If a teacher or camp counselor used their position to rape a child, should society let them continue to be teachers or camp counselors because - other than than unpleasant business about the rape - they are really good teachers and camp counselors? I don't think so.
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I am serious. I work in law enforcement. 85% of the time, the battered spouse is at the jail trying to bail out the suspect with in an hour of them being booked. "They just had a bad day" "it's the booz that makes him bad" ect...pathetic.
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You can't possibly compare this to domestic violence. It's nothing like that. The woman had forgiven him after 30 yrs. Not out of some misplaced sense of love or whatever it is that makes battered spouses continually go back and back. Indeed it is pathetic what they do. Not what this woman has done.
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There is no way i am paying a cent to him for any of his movies. He destroys a child's life and then runs away. What a piece of Scum. However, being a fan of quality film I will get a hold of it somehow. But there is a special section in hell for him.(I think its right by where Scorsese will be for making The Last Temptation. The sacreligious knave.)
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you go with that. My point was, again my opinion only, that the victim forgiving the suspect doesn't mean much to me and doesn't absolve him of his responsibility for the act he perpetrated. I have no doubt, in order to find her own closure and such that she forgave him, truely. Great, he still commited a crime for which he is still dodging judgement for. Like i said, if he was really sorry as he claimed, he'd step up and handle his business in court.
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You were doing so well up until the stupid scorsese remarks.
I agree with what you said cagirl that he should accept his punishment. At the end of the day he maybe be a sick man but I don't think he is a peadophile. -
Everyone would be calling the guy a sick bastard and wanting him to rot in hell and all that but since he is Roman Polanski the director it's oh whatever it's been a long time he's apoligized it's ok.. Look at Mary Kay LeTourneau, she's so respected. HA!
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Well then come on back. The victim forgave him? Shit, he can come over and fuck my sister. Despite that, I wouldn't let smeone's personal life influence whether or not I'd see their work. The people who refused to see WotW really annoyed me. The actors or directors involved with a film could all be Satanic seal clubbers for all I care, I'm never going to meet them anyway. If you boycotted every movie that had a scumbag associated with it, you wouldn't be watching very many movies.
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Oliver - "Toucha toucha toucha touch me, I wanna be dirty
Thrill me chill me fulfil me
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Jul 21, 2005 6:00:18 AM CDT
And, finally, when did the language commonly refered to around t
by workshed
Get it right blueberry boy.
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Jul 21, 2005 6:03:06 AM CDT
And, finally, when did the language commonly refered to around t
by workshed
Get it right blueberry boy.
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yes he is a pedophile and a rapist, he forced himself on an UNDERAGE girl. I do not believe he is sorry for his crime, he would've turned himself in and accepted whatever punishment given. But he will not, because there is no statute of limitations on rape. Will this affect my decision to see his movie? I don't know, perhaps, I really don't want to support the work of a sexual preditor. But I don't want to hurt the work of all the other talented people who worked on the film...
GFY -
Who would bring their child to a drug infested H'Wood party, dope her up and set her in the hot-tub with Polanski, then tell him she's overrage? The grown woman was on the E! True Hollyweird Story and basically forgave him. It don't make it right, but I'm inclined to believe her since she was there. In any case, he's one of my favorite directors, there are plenty of geniuses who are scumbags. He is definitely a cowardly scumbag and he should bite the bullet. However I think this Oliver Twist looks really good. And is the first-poster kidding or just stoopit? A Remake? Umm...
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...then our art museums and galleries would be pretty much empty. ESPECIALLY if we judged how our revered artists treated women.*** Polanski screwed up back in the day and demonstrated very poor judgment. There's no question of his guilt or innocence. What people tend to forget - the circumstances. He had worked out a plea agreement that the girl and her family were happy with - something like 45 days in jail and an admission of guilt. The day before Roman was due to begin his sentence, the judge threw out the agreement and demanded Roman serve 20 years in prison. Roman, who had a horrid childhood and perhaps had a righteous fear of authority and confinement, obviously fled. That is not an excuse, of course, but a reason. Even the now-adult victim (who has forgiven him and has stated the sentence should be dropped) says it was unfair.***I am not stating that what he did was justified by any means - an adult male fucking a 13 year old girl is just WRONG - but for Christ's sake...the man is 71 years old now. Murderers have spent less time in exile. Let it drop, let him come back if he chooses, at least let him visit Sharon's grave. There's no POINT to it anymore.
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Jul 22, 2005 10:26:18 AM CDT
And if certain directors should have their asses thrown in jail.
by donnadarko
.....let's dig up Don Simpson and lock up his bones. Banned by every legit L.A. and NYC escort service (ahem...don't ask me how I know) - the man was a sadistic, misogynistic monster when it came to women. But he made lots of money for the Hollywood system and had great lawyers - I bet he died with a smile on his face. There are others, LOTS of them, but they are still alive and I don't want get Harry and the boys to get into trouble. Again, this does not excuse Roman's actions...but for anyone in Hollywood to 'judge' him by what he did 30 years ago - the hypocrisy is ridiculous! Jack N. deserved tht 20 year sentence as well!
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So what your basically saying is that
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Normally, if a judge throws out a plea agreement it's because something was totally out of whack with it legally or in a "justice" frame of mind. Perhaps the deal was struck because the parents were afraid their own involvment in the whole affair would be brought up and perhaps turn into criminal charges too. Perhaps the judge felt Roman used his $$$ and power to coerce the them into the agreement. Most first time offenders here for that particular crime (Rape of an under aged victim while victim is under the influence/unconscious)will get around 3-5 years and then a sex offender registration requirment. The judge might have WANTED to give him twenty years but even they have limits as to how much time they can give a defendant that is set by the penal code. In a jury trial, if found guilty, I doubt he'd have served more than about 3 years after good time ect.
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