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It just showed at ComiCon - Now we got it! SAW 2 Teaser Trailer!!!
Hey folks, Harry here with a teaser trailer that just ran at COMICON!!! And it's all just for you. I liked most of the first film, didn't care much for the last 30 minutes, but I think it is a very fun premise for an on-going horror film franchise - and this trailer is pretty damn good. Dontcha think?
Harry,
Here's the exclusive teaser trailer that just ran at ComiCon!
Swiss Army Saw
A Wee JigSaw
A 2x4 Saw
A ChainSaw
BigAss LumberJack SAW
While investigating the bloody aftermath of a grizzly murder, Detective Eric Mason (Donnie Wahlberg) has the feeling that it is the work of Jigsaw, the notorious killer who disappeared leaving a trail of bodies - and parts - behind.
And Mason is right.
Jigsaw is at work again. But instead of two people locked in a room with only one unthinkable way out, there are eight. Eight strangers – unaware of their connection to each other -- forced to play out a game that challenges their wits and puts their lives in jeopardy.
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nothing's coming up. :(
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ah... can't save it directly. you gotta let it stream for you. nevermind. :)
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.....unless they remember some essential things this time: namely logic, a story that makes sense on even the most basic level.... oh... and suspense. Because the way the last one was edited was simply not suspenseful... it was an overdone NIN video.
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When I found out it was Donnie from New Kids in the Sixth Sense I almost puked blood. He really looks like he's been through the wringer, much more so than his brother. It's funny - when Donnie was the more popular one from NKOTB (as they were known) Marky Mark was the also-ran. Then Mark went out and made a name for himself as an actor - and not a bad one at that - with a couple of pretty decent performances under his belt. Donnie also became an actor after the end od New Kids in Ransom and then of course, The Sixth Sense in which he was unrecognisable. After the Shield though , I have to say that as much as I enjoy Marky Mark's work I think his brother is a more naturally talented actor. It must piss Mark off but Donnie seems to have more of a rawness in his performances than Mark does. Basically I think it's cos Donnie looks fucked. No offence to either but Donnie looks like shit - I believe in every aspect of his character on The Shield cos, Jesus, he looks like he's been through hell. Seems like once again Mark's getting trumped by his brother. Then again, Donnie never took out a guy's eye in a fight so fuck Marky Mark
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After the end 'OD' New Kids???? Will I ever post a message that doesn't contain a fucking spelling mistake????
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I new little about Saw before it came out. The trailers made it look interesting, their web promotion was great too. I root for the new guys, the low budget indie horror guys. I am not quick to throw around the "crap" label on a movie but halfway through seeing this in the movie I was dizzy from rolling my eyes so much. So disappointed. I was just speechless walking out of the theater, shaking my head. But if you go low buget and make a modest gross on any film nowadays a sequel is declared after opening weekend. The acting was terrible, the movie as a whole lacked logic (believe me I am an advocate for suspension of disbelief in a movie but this was just beyong the norm), I hated the hyper editing and the wannabe Se7en grittiness. You sir are no Se7en. 2600AD great post. Jarek, Head and Kury I agree with you guys wholeheartedly.
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I mean I know these "actors" like to think they do some good stuff but I don't want to see Murtaugh getting taken out like a bitch. Sorry Danny but you have to accept that you'll be judged on this forever. "Bopha" I can dig and your Oprah Winfrey movies I'll forgive but c'mon Danny - getting beat by that whitey from Bladerunner ( I think- was it not the "Let me tell you 'bout my mother guy? Sorry if not) this is not cool. Then again I love that Danny Glover the actor is offering himself up for these parts. So basically I realise I'm talking shit but in my defence- I AM drunk, Danny Glover is a fucking good actor incidentally. Why isn't he in more movies???
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...at first...the puzzels were fun--sort of like if The Riddler went nuts--but the ending and the reveal did not work for me.
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***SPOILER*************
It really did not work for me that a terminally ill guy would be about to do all the legwork, recon, and prep work to pull that shit off. He'd be too sick. Unless he wasn't sick at all and just delusional--in which casem fine, but then that hospital was pretty bad if they thought they had a sick guy who wasn't really sick...unless he manipulated the charts or something...but it would still completely skew Jigsaw's motivations. Eh. -
From the description of 8 people etc etc that is ... it might actually look completely different.
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How a hospital never noticed a patient vanish for days at a time. Sequel-wise, what's the point? Sure the 1st Saw wasn't great, but that's never stopped a sequel before. But the first Saw was really all about finding out the killer's identity. If the sequel is about the same killer, again I ask...what's the point? Is Saw just to become the latest in a line of pointless horror franchises where the only difference between installments is how the victims are killed? B/C the film's tone is too heavy-handed to pull that off. Hopefully the film has something new to offer this time around, anything to keep the concept afloat. But for some reason, I doubt it.
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Jul 15, 2005 10:59:35 PM CDT
Saw: "I'm so cleve, I'm so clever, you have to think but
by big bad clone
I was so pissed to have my intelligence insulted over and over again by a film that kept telling me how smart it was. It was not complete shit for a first film, production wise, but content wise, utter horse shit.
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And since I'm on the topic and have nothing better to do at the moment, let's talk about that weak concept. A terminally-ill patient kills people for wasting the lifetimes he wishes he had. Yet this same terminally-ill man is able to climb out of his sick bed, stalk people across the city, build and orchistrate insanely elaborate death plots, and continue to confuse and elude the police throughout it all. What's this guys deal? He's living a fuller life than I am and all I've got is a case of crabs! If he's got this much time and energy on his hands, why not learn to play the violin? Run with the bulls? Hell, he's obviously got enough life left in him for a sequel. Might I recommend climbing Everest? Jesus, it's just so friggin stupid! If only the nation had socialized medicine there wouldn't be a problem. B/C his pasty, bald ass would be dead.
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That movie was so fucking overrated, a wannabe se7en with horrible acting and plot, the twists were stupid and improbable, I hate that people like these movies!!!!!!!
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Whaaaaa? Oooh boy, here we have *more* clever head and/or body parts locked inside a contraption that is set to blow up. We have, once again, a trying-to-be-freaky puppet head. The first one really annoyed me, as do most things that smack of attempting to be too clever for their own sake. Much like Cube, might I add. That film really pissed me off. Why oh why is this stuff recycled and pumped out. I know, make my own movie if I'm so damn critical. But truthfully, I find ripping apart other's attempts so much easier. And anyway, what with all the CRAP horror films of the recent past, any inspiration to write a good, original one (brought by the great horror films of the 60s-80s) has long since left. Maybe that's the problem, we're stuck in some sort of horrible loop where writers lack suitable inspiration. Weak concepts, reliance on stupid sleight-of-hand trickery, dumb resolutions that make no sense topped off with a dose of "I'm smarter than you are". Lame lame lame. Let's hope somebody gets it right sometime soon.
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Jul 16, 2005 12:47:24 AM CDT
Saw, like Cube, is just another movie with an interesting premis
by serious black
Sure, those sick kids thought of all kinds of twisted ways to kill somebody and then somehow managed to fit these skits into a full-length feature. That takes skill. But Saw had such potential. It really could have been another 'Seven' if they'd spent less effort on being gruesome and more on having a story that made sense. As it is it's just another forgettable, 'Seven' wannabe. Still, those kids who made it are damn talented.
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Enough of him and his stupid brother. Isn't suffering through the 90's with KNOTB enough!?!?!
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And Donnis Wahlberg was wonderful in BAND OF BROTHERS.
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Jul 16, 2005 3:43:06 AM CDT
Mark Wahlberg couldn't act his way out of a fucking wet pape
by durendal
He sucked in Planet of the Apes and sucked beyond all measure in The Truth About Charlie (which was a singularity of suck in and of itself). The guy has all the talent and charisma of a fencepost. If his brother is anything close to the same, then let's hope that one of the gruesome devices has a horrible malfunction and tears his head in half.
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Jul 16, 2005 4:19:03 AM CDT
Question: what quality can be expected from a sequel to the wors
by salvatoregravano
Answer...
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Jul 16, 2005 4:58:22 AM CDT
more on the Saw plot loopholes, inconsistencies theme...
by bill fairbanks
BECAUSE THERE'S F%&KING MILLIONS IN THIS FILM!
OK, so he's grieved at those who don't lead fulfilling lives, and wants to punish them - great. But then *MINOR SPOILER* he targets the life of the surgeon's daughter - she's only 4 for F@*KS SAKE, she might waste hours playing K'plonk and watching Teletubbies but give her a break. I don't think this is his reason at all, the guy's just a twat. The sequel should follow this sad c%&t around in his day-to-day life when he's arranging his vast network of schemes. Obviously the guy's a f%&king god when it comes to time management, so the film should focus on a day when he's a bit behind schedule, and show the comic events which ensue in his frantic attempts to reach B&Q before it shuts on Sunday so he can finish making the cock vice he wants to stick on his next victim before they wake up and then get home in time to see You've Been Framed. John Cleese would be an ideal choice for this. -
***SPOILER***has anyone else wondered how the f$%k he managed to drop that guy in the bathtub at the start then lie on the floor without that t&/t of a surgeon noticing?
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Jul 16, 2005 6:09:05 AM CDT
Er...looks like the same damn movie but with a chair! And the fi
by negative man
I know people will flame me for sayin' so, but my good googly people, the first was crap! It was like the people who saw and liked it never saw a true 70's exploitation movie before! A movie that will truly push limits! Saw was just...lame. It doesn't even rank up with House on the Edge of the Park starring David Hess crap! Saw is for the people who thought High Tension was a good movie! Oh! That did 3 million in the boxoffice...so I think Saw II will do 20 million if they are lucky. It's one of those movies that gets the 'It was a good idea...' ranking. Beyond that, it was a craptasically put together film. The kind you expect from first year film students. Because what do first years do 9 times out of 10? Horror or 'experimental' movies. How many suck? All of them. Arrgh!
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Really, I think 'nuff said.
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I'm sick of all these bullshit serial killer movies. I can't wait for the cop to say the obligatory, "Don't you see? It's like it's a game for him!" ........and thus ends my obligatory negativity.
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Oh thank the Gods for iTunes and links to 'Old Time' radio shows! This has nothing to do with SAW II, but it's worlds more entertaining than that teaser!
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Following a killer actually plotting his scheme and right when it goes into action...the credits roll. That would leave a writer no McGuffins to fall back on to forward a story. AND, if done with any panache, would make a scarier film than actually seeing his macinations come to fuition. Watching him studying and brilliantly predicting the moves of his prey as he manipulates them into his web of terror! That sounds much more interesting than the typical "Don't you see? It's like it's a game for him!" as jollysleeve ablely pointed out. Heck, make two movies to be released at the same time...one from the killers point of view and the other from the police/heroes. You get to see how the villain screws up and how the heroes pick up on it. Damn. I must be either drunk, bored or both...
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instead of the monkeys currently there :)
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There are no plot-holes in "Saw." Pay attention to dialogue. It usually answers questions before you ask them. Also note that the film is not presented in chronological order. Jigsaw wasn't always in the hospital.
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You're right, iamnicksaicnsn. It was like watching a freakin' slide show. WMP sucks nards.
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Jul 16, 2005 4:06:11 PM CDT
SAW is SEVEN without heart, soul, or likable characters.
by stifler's mom
And Cary Elwes gave the WORST performance I've ever seen in a theatrical wide release. Not to director: when you're done ripping off David Fincher's production designs, you're supposed to coach your actors, too.
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I liked that the killer was the dead guy. I liked the goofy doll gimick. I liked most of the devices. I liked that the film didn't cop out and had the doctor cut his leg off. I liked some of the set design... and that really about it. Almost jumped once or twice... Maybe a cringe here or there... but really the film sucked beyound the above mentioned things for me. I think I've told the story of the only thing that made seeing it in the theater worthwhile almost as many times as I've praised Jacob's Ladder on this site... but what the hell... The cool thing about see SAW was that there was this row of old ladies (ages 62 to 85 by my rough estimation)who seemed to totally dig the film. A friend and I passed them when it was over and they were all smiling and saying how "quaint that was." So... yeah... old lady horror geeks kick ass! Peace.
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Totally agree. On that note, I could sure go for some of that hard R David Fincher of Fight Club and Seven right about now... Panic Room had some moments that were gems... but it really wasn't up to snuff. Peace.
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No matter how bad he might be in Saw 2, he can't be nearly as bad as he was playing a retard in Dreamcatcher. "I Duddits!" .... more like "I Suckits!"
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Gems in the Fincher sense... not the Hard R sense... that is... Peace.
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I rented that film for one reason. The look a friend's face when I said I had not and had no plans to see it. The expression was confusing... but then he said three words that I am very thankful for... "Watch the outtakes..." The only reason to see that bucket of piss that The Thing (hell, not even Leviathan for that matter) would not find worthy to take a shit in. The bit with Dudtits trying to explain whats goign on in the car to Mr. Deep Blue Punisher... god that was funny. Peace.
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Not great cinema, but fun and worth my matinee price - I'd buy a used DVD from Hollywood Video where it's like 2 previously viewed DVDs for $20 or whatever.
But - why make a sequel? Why turn every goddamn thing into a 'franchise?' I mean, what'll be in "Saw 3?" 20 people locked in a room...playing an electrified version of Twister? I mean, come on! -
For all of its faults, the first film could've been salvaged had the ending been better (or, at least, decent). As opposed to focusing on logic and story, the filmmakers came out with something that can never be reasonably explained only to solidify the movie's surreal mood. "Saw" was creepy as a horror/thriller should be, but it was also as stupid as Glover's character in it was irrelevant. It's pretty sad when you could edit out all of the scenes with a movies most well-known actor, and know that you wouldn't miss anything of consequence. When one considers that the film had such a sparse cast, that last point further illustrates how this movie simply fumbled when it reached the red zone. Hopefully, the next installment makes more sense.
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try **MINOR SPOILER** playing the Benny Hill theme over the part where the guy's trying to escape from the razor wire
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I wish I had a dime for everytime the word "sucks" appears on this page.
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Why don't we collaborate and write our own screenplay? There's been tons of good ideas thrown on the boards by us 'amateurs' over the years but I bet rarely anyone actually makes an effort to put pen to paper. I bet our collective minds could throw together something decent, plus maybe we'd get some feedback from other interested aicners either encouraging us or letting us know if/where going wrong? In latter case, we just keep revising it until it's perfect ;)
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I'm all in! I would seriously love to work on a movie script with some collective minds to come up with something worth watching. It's a shame that all we have done up till now is just bitch about so many movie related issues. I'm tired of bitchin', and I'd like to make a differance. Oh yeah, Saw 2? I'm too pissed off to make a comment. The first one was so stupid, I can't imagine this one will do much better. And does anyone know if Marc got Donnie this job? Just curious. Bill, if you're serious, lets write out a movie...
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Hi mate, I've basically been writting stuff on and off for years, but have never seemed to get anything beyond note form (I've literally got piles of notes lying around my flat of dialogue or plot ideas, but that's all they are - notes!). But reakon maybe that working with other people would give it more impetus, plus who've got someone else to look over what you've written and go 'yeah that's ok', or 'no, that bit's bad/terrible'. I think it's a lack of constructive criticism which scriptwriters receive (look for?), which is responsibe for 'good ideas' becoming mediocre or downright bad films. Anyway mate, here's my email, so maybe we can talk about this more petewalton77@hotmail.com
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Ummmm...not really. But it was great given the budget and probably phenomenal when it was discovered during a film festival filled with pretentious drama crap. When are reviewers going to contextualize what "good flim" means? Good for the budget or good for the audience?
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Seriously. How stupid.
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Not to sound hostile... but what the hell could throwing more money at this have fixed? Ok, a better writer might have been bought... but from what I saw, there was never a gore scene or a camera shot that looked hurt by budget. Maybe they could have made the film longer... but than again maybe they could have offered razor blades and instructional pamphlets at the theater to go with it. Has it gotten to the point where good actors will only act well if they are paid well... that realy does not sound like a good career move... but maybe that's just me. What kind of budget were these people working with anyway?
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Jul 18, 2005 8:14:27 PM CDT
"When are reviewers going to contextualize what "good flim" mean
by neosamurai85
To me, good and bad are decided by intent... this is why hype can be so deadly to so many decent or even good films. I've never read anything by the director, so I can't say what his/her intent was... but the film was sold as "THE NEXT SE7EN!" That's the Bar people set... and for good reason. The film is clearly trying to be Se7en. Like Dementia 13 is trying to be Pyscho... only, unlike D13, it fails to even stand as it's own work. The things that people are really tearing into this for are respectible things to dig into it for. The films flaws are far from those often forgiven of amatures. The ingredents are there, but the mixer is clearly not up to snuff. It's sloppy, and lacks moments executed with the strength to redeem it. Sure it can be a fun film, and if it acted like a fun twisted film instead of the most fucked up intelligent thing since... look you get what I'm saying. Peace.
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I watched Saw at the Toronto Film festival and cant believe this movie got picked up while a quality movie like "Haven"still hasnt been.
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