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Tiny tidbits from Kathleen Kennedy on INDY 4!
Ahoy, squirts! Quint here with a teeny tiny, itty-bitty update on INDY 4 from the mouth of producer Kathleen Kennedy. She confirms the status of the script, just how likely it'll be put into production and the era in which the film will be set. After seeing WAR OF THE WORLDS I'm completely psyched to see Spielberg attack this again... now the only problem is waking Harrison Ford up from the haze he's been in for the last decade or so...
So... Now Playing's site seemed to break right after I put the link up... Here are excerpts of the juicy bits from the interview (thanks to The Indy Experience for the text):
"We're working on a screenplay. I know this sounds like something that we've been saying for 15 years, but I'm hoping that we're going to see something in a couple of months. Jeff Nathanson is working on the script right now... I will say this: If it comes in and we're all happy with it, it will be more than likely the next thing we do."
Kennedy stated that earlier reports that Nathanson's draft had been "approved" by Lucas and Spielberg were indeed true, but that didn't mean what we thought it did. "It's one thing to approve something, it's another thing to say it's greenlit and we're shooting it. So we're just in that sort of phase of finessing,"
When asked if she thought Ford was too old to play Indy, Kennedy responded, "No, I don't think so. Certainly we're not writing the script as though he's 20 years old. You know, Sean Connery spent a lot of time in the Bond role and whatnot. I think it's great that we can go make another Indiana Jones movie and Indy can be a little older. I think playing with that is a good thing."
Now Playing Magazine then asked if Indy 4 would take place in the 1950s, and Kennedy stated, "Ahhhh, yeah. The late '40s." An earlier timeline? According to Kathleen, that seems to be the case. She was then asked who the new bad guys were going to be, "I'm not going to tell you the story!" she laughs. "What do you think, I'm nuts?! You'll be here next year and ask me if I'm working on the Indy movie. 'No, I got fired!'"
CLICK IT HERE TO GO TO NOW PLAYING MAGAZINE'S WEBPAGE AND READ THE COMPLETE INTERVIEW... if you can!
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... the time to make Indy IV was over ten years ago.
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Jul 08, 2005 2:48:37 AM CDT
"After seeing WAR OF THE WORLDS I'm completely psyched to se
by bauhausen
you should fear it. wow wasnt that amazing, you know.
a movie that lacks any sense of humour or actual storyline line shouldn make you think of indy. -
Any "Indiana Jones" movie needs Ford in the hero role. However, Ford is too old to do as much physical stunwork and sell it to the audience as realistic. Maybe he could be a wiser, more intellectual Indy who uses smarts more than phsyicality, and leave the stunts to supporting characters?
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Know what you mean about the run. Another good example is when he's running out of the shield bunker on Endor after planting the charges. When we were kids, my friends and I would quite often run around like that shouting "Harrison Ford run!". You have to remember we didn't have X-Boxes back then.
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Ack ack ack!
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... But Sean Connery's getting on a bit
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Was a perfect ending. The friends riding towards the setting sun with the beautiful music of John Williams... They'd better make a movie better than Raiders (and that's not possible).
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Her comment about Connery playing Bond when he was older scares me. I guess the villian in Indy 4 will be SPECTRE's Fatima Blush.
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An Indy flick set in the late 40's to 50's? Seriously, will the villains be the Boys from Brazil? Commies? The military-industrial complex? What artifact will he be going after? I'm actually very interested to see how 'old Indy' will be written - and I hope they don't dredge up a long-lost brother in a lame attempt to keep the series going after Ford is done with it.
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at my house.hottest indy girl.
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Doc, you're so right. Alison Doody is teh hotness. And she was a Bond girl too. (In a Moore film) Capital H Capital O Capital T.
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I hope they don't go overboard on the CGI either, but with Lucas and Spielburg it's likely. Indy fighting off hoardes of computer generated beasties a la Mummy anyone?
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Now - I am such a huge fan of Indiana Jones - Star Wars turned me into a geek but Raiders cemented it. I saw the movie on a family holiday when I was 14 and was astounded at how god it was. I have loved the three movies - though think that Last Crusade was unforgivably tired for the third in a series - only actually lifted by Connery's presence - I hated the fact that both Brody and Sallah had been turned into Nigel Bruce and comedy Arab. However the set pieces far made up for the lame script and terrible ending that strayed into Monty Python territory! I have longed for a fourth Indy for so long and I still do. Lucas stated in many interviews after Raiders that he had five Indiana Jones movies planned (but like Star Wars I'm sure he denies ever having said that). I don't think that Harrison Ford's age will be too much of a problem after all Connery was a credible action hero in 'The Rock' (and crappy film though it was Connery still managed a credible action sequence or two in League of Extraordinary Gentlemen) and if you give the character a little bit of gravitas (not too much as we're talking about Indy and not The Unforgiven) I think that it can still be done. My main worries are Lucas and Spielberg. I personally think that maybe they have moved on too much - I am sorry but I didn't like any of the Star Wars prequels - I'm not a hater but I think that they were a bit ham fisted. I also worry about Spielberg's way of directing action scenes these days - the fist fight between Cruise and Colin Farrell in Minority Report was spoiled by the Private Ryan cinematography - I suppose you could argue that this adds realism to a fight or action scene but I hope that he remembers that it's Indy and Indy has never been about realism. I doubt there will be Nazi's as the villains - even Nazi's in South America because I doubt after Schindlers List that Spielberg could tackle comic book Nazi's again. Though the villains were never about politics they were always about having loads of recognisable thugs to be thrown off trucks, tanks or minecars. I don't want too many nods to the past - Connery's role was good in one but if he is anything more than a cameo in the next one I'll be pissed off. If we have Marion, Willie and Sallah back at all then I'll be pissed off because then it will turn into Lethal Weapon 4 rather than Indiana Jones 4. I want to see a smart, funny, exciting Indy - not a 'this is the last one so let's all please every one of the fans by having their favourite elements in them again).
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Jul 08, 2005 5:14:24 AM CDT
Another idiotic, unwanted, belated pseudosequel. Coming next: Mi
by salvatoregravano
With Jones played by a random homosexual clothing model or Tom Cruise.
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Jul 08, 2005 6:11:25 AM CDT
Indiana Jones and the Curse of The Swollen Prostate....
by big_bubbaloola
gasp as Indy tries to pee at 4 in the morning.....hurl as all that comes out is white gloop caused by that damned urinary infection.....cry as Indy breaks another replacement hip getting out of the car.
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Indy I - Raiders of the Lost Ark
Indy = 37 / Harrison = 39 -> difference = 2
Indy II - Temple of Doom:
Indy = 36 / Harrison = 42 -> difference = 6
Indy III - The Last Crusade
Indy = 39 / Harrison = 47 -> difference = 8
Indy IV - Unknown
Indy = 49 / Harrison = 64 -> difference = 15
(interpreting "late 40's" as 1948, for the sake of math)
In comparison to James Bond: Bond is considered to be in his 30's to 40's (never ageing, although according to books, he was born in 1920) - played by a 53-year-old Connery in Never Say Never Again. That's roughly the same age-difference as this upcoming Indy... -
Temple of Doom is set a year before Raiders, making it a prequel before it was fashionable! FYI: Raiders = 1936, Temple = 1935, Crusade = 1938
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Just watch Henry Jones Sr in Crusade!
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..an all CGI character or annoying child with blonde bowl haircut or an annoying child with a CGI blonde bowl haircut?
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As long as they use the same sound effects for when Indy punches people, and that he punches lots of people I'll be totally fine with where they take the movie.
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These days they'll THX it and it'll sound like someone slamming your head in a car door.
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He's not an ageless immortal like Bond. We've seen him at 10 and 13 and 20 and 35 and 50 and 90. It adds depth to the character, if you ask me. Which you didn't.
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Keep Lucas and Spielberg producing, but sign a totally different actor and a new director to do the next three. I would rather see someone new fall on their face than see Harrison Ford attempt this bullshit. Christ, I love Indy, but not this much.
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Jul 08, 2005 8:15:42 AM CDT
Should Spielberg and Lucas keep making movies that require John
by d8cam
I mean, how old is John Williams?
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Just LOOK at the Indy movies. Watch them again if you haven't seen them in a while. You'll realise that what's good and fun about them couldn't even be put on screen in 2005 (well, 2006). Firstly, Ford IS too old. Secondly, Spielberg lacks the flair these days. Thirdly, it's Lucas's story, and look what his latest stories were (you better thank fuck he isn't scripting this). Fourthly, the era of 'fun' cinema is long gone. Everything's so cynical, to a formula, politically correct and sterile (there have been a few exceptions like - yes - Pirates of the Caribbean). Peter Jackson seems to be intent on bringing back this 'fun adventure' cinema with King Kong but it remains to be seen how successful he is in that Venture. Anyway, in my honest view, Indy can't exist outside the Cold War.
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Johnny Williams is currently 73 years old and is going to score Indy IV (according to IMDb)
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With a "late 40's" setting, we could see Indy searching for an artifact in South America, stumbling upon Nazi's along the way (supposedly, some top-figures of the regime, including dr. Mengele went into hiding there).
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I'm wondering if Indy would have been drafted into WWII? He would have been in his late 30's, and that's certainly within the age range. Have they touched on what he was doing during the war before?
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...will just be a rewarmed Bubba Ho-Tep with Harrison and Sean sharing a room at an old-age home where the retired Nazi in the room next door is revealed to be a vampire, unnaturally prolonging his life by sucking the pus out of decrepit old penises. Learn from Lucas' mistakes. Just let the trilogy stand.
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Jul 08, 2005 9:07:56 AM CDT
Half the movie will feature Young Indy, just to ensure teen-appe
by frankdrebin
and possibly launch a new franchise.
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Apparently he did Catch Me If You Can & The Terminal, as well as Rush Hour I, II & III...
Isn't Philip Kaufman involved? He wrote on Raiders & Crusade (and he is linked to an Indy-fanfilm: http://linnproductions.com/movies_indianajed_main.php though it could be just "based on" his writings... -
Not according to this timeline (http://www.innermind.com/youngindy/info/indy.htm), but it is based on comics, books, etc.
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Jul 08, 2005 10:27:25 AM CDT
R.C.'s opinion: Come on people. It's painfully obvious
by r.c. the "wise"
or I could just be smokin some of that sticky-icky-icky, and be completely off.
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That was no Bond film. "Diamonds Are Forever" was Connery's last Bond film, and I say that grudgingly. If I had my druthers, DaF would disappear forever, and Connery's run would end with "You Only Live Twice".
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Jul 08, 2005 11:04:12 AM CDT
If Christopher Lee can still hold his own against Hayden Christi
by cookylamoo
Oh, wait. He didn't did he? He got killed. And in the movie before that, he almost got beaten by a puppet.
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Jul 08, 2005 11:37:03 AM CDT
I love the Indy character, but come on, LAST CRUSADE had the per
by johnnytremaine
The filmmakers should just let a classic trilogy remain that: a classic trilogy.
Besides, there are other movies taking up the mantle of "fun adventure" as someone above mentioned, PIRATES OF THE CARRIBEAN and sequels.
Also, we all have the Indy trilogy box set. Who wants to see another cynical marketing effort to sell yet another expanding box set with an ad banner like, "SUPER NEVER BEFORE SEEN FOOTAGE!!!". -
The Last Crusade was a satisfying final Indiana Jones movie.
Somehow an older Indy just doesn't seem right.
I can see a line of dialogue where Indy says "I'm getting too old for this" while digging for some lost treasure.
And the rumored Aliens/Atlantis theme seems too far-teched for even a Indiana Jones movie. -
I can't believe anyone would be excited to see Spielberg do another movie after WotW. What a big pile of shit that movie was aside from the special effects. The most troubling thing about that movie is how hollow and generic it was, there was absolutely nothing in that movie aside from the special effects. Spielberg is at his best when he's doing the Indy films so we shall see, but I wouldn't get my hopes up too much.
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Jul 08, 2005 12:38:53 PM CDT
As long as I get a "I'm too old for this shit." moment
by lost skeleton
I'm there...it would be really good if Indy says it after falling in a pit of snakes...Another necessary line....Soviets! I'm beginning to hate these guys!
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I read this story on theindyexperience.com a month ago.
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After the Star Wars prequals and Spielbergs last 4-5 films, I have very little faith in this. I keep saying to myself "Don't fuck this up!" On the onther hand I still have some faith in Ford that he won't agree to do it unless the script is up to par. So let's keep our fingers crossed!
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Indy isn't the Terminator. The whole point of the charcter is that he's a middle aged college professor who constantly gets his ass kicked. Why can he play that chararcter at 50 and not at 65? Sean Connery, Christopher Lee, Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellan all did psysical roles after 60. Lighten up on the age thing already.
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Jul 08, 2005 2:25:56 PM CDT
I DUNNO there is a WORLD of difference between age 50 and age 65
by johnnytremaine
Just ask anyone who is 65.
I'm not knocking old age. Our parents and grandparents have reached or will reach that threshold and luckily so will all of us someday, but being in your late 60's and plausibly playing an action adventure hero strain credulity a bit. Guys like Connery and Eastwood can pull it off (barely) because they are really good actors with well-known distinctive personas which the audience has grown to love. Harrison Ford CAN be in that category if he chose the right parts for himself, but as evidenced with his last few films his judgement in scripts or that of the people who work for him, has not been great. Compare the work Ford in his sixties is doing with what Connery did when he was the same age: The Untouchables, Hunt for Red October, The Russia House (very underrated), Indy and the Last Crusade (where he played the OLDER dad, a less physical part). -
It might just be me, but I feel as if Harrison Ford has aged really badly in the past ten years. In Hollywood Homicide he looked like he could hardly move and at any moment one of his bones was going to snap. His faced also screamed of being in pain the entire time. Sean Connery, Christopher Lee, Ian Mckellen have all seemed to age nicely and look much younger than they actually are (ok, maybe not Lee). I think these guys have stayed in better shape and can still run around on screen and throw a couple of hard punches. Ford on the other hand looks like a crazy old loon. The movie can be done, but Ford needs to loose some weight, ditch the earing, comb his hair, find an older woman who is not a ghost, and regain some of the class he had back in the day. Only at this point will Ford be able to portray Indy in any kind of respectful way.
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Ford needs to let go of his youth and embrace the older and wiser man like Connery and Eastwood have done. This advice also applies to Michael Douglas who applies so much make-up these days that he looks like an orange mannequin. Ford and Douglas are amazing actors he could totally rock in the supporting roles as the elder character who knows all and gives great advice.
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I like the idea of a trilogy with young Indiana. But only if its directed by Speilberg, which menas it wont happen.But still, wouldn't Nick Stahl be great as young Indy. LOL
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Jul 08, 2005 3:16:13 PM CDT
There's a young actor out there that looks just like River P
by justice41
Don't know the name just saw a movie and I could swear it was River Phoenix. Indy did serve in the war WW1. Read the Indian Jones books that Dark Horse put out some years ago. They not only filled in Indies older age but his younger days as well.
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Maybe Indy 4 will suck. Maybe Ford isn't up to the psysical challenge and they're going to fall back on the swordsman vs gun shot gag to its breaking point. Maybe Lucas and Spielberg have gone too soft to come up with another kick ass Indy flick. Or maybe it'll kick ass. I think everyone involved is fully aware of everyone's age and given the fact that the point is that the character is not an action hero guy but more of a fish out of water in the first place makes me think that they might pull off something cool. If it turns out that it sucks, than it sucks but we owe them the chance. I mean, Raiders of the Lost Ark, people. Raiders of the Lost Ark.
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Jul 08, 2005 9:52:32 PM CDT
I'd like to see a geriatric Indy take on the evil HMO's
by serious black
I'd like to see him take his whip to those motherfuckers when they don't reimburse him for his new blood pressure meds. And there would have to be a cameo by Hillary Clinton in the beginning doing a sexed-up rendition of "Anything Goes." 'Indiana Jones and the Assholes of Modern Healthcare' Title needs some work, but you get the idea.
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If Indy 4 sucks it wont matter becasue we already have three amazing films. If Indy 4 turns out to be balls it wont take the shine of raider, temple or crusade. So I say go for it.
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...and I've gotta say it hasn't aged well. Sure, it's a fun, goofy movie, but it would barely be a blip at the box office if it came out today. All the classic moments were there where I remembered them, but watching with nitpicking attitude of AICN talkbacker the multiple implausibilities of the film soon pile up on top of each other. Fun, sure. A great movie, it ain't. Still, I had to marvel at the unbridled charisma of Ford in his prime. The dude was pure moviestar, a believable tough guy, funny, and handsome while not being a pretty boy. I can't think of many stars today who come even close to how cool he was back then.
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Jul 08, 2005 10:07:55 PM CDT
Det. John Kimble re: Indiana Jones and the Boys from Brazil
by crimson dynamo
Indy stopping an army of Hitler clones in South America? Hell, I'm there!
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>Smarmy, catty reply #257<
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I mean it, he's too old to be running around. He's a dinosaur. BTW Star wars prequels are not a failure.
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Jul 09, 2005 2:31:35 AM CDT
Ghangis Khan plotline where he is fighting communist Chinese/N.
by spectrebeeyatch
Maybe. S. America works too and wouldn't have to use Nazi's but Soviets who did actually have a huge presence in S. America.
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in a Lolita remake..yeah baby..buncha preeverts!!
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I am a great fan of the original trilogy, please don't hurt then by doing a poor 4th movie with a past it Ford.
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...she can come around and drink from my Holy Grail anytime.
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Oh yeah, there's so much that people are realizing "thanks to the internet" about REALITY...certainly there's no misinformation for uneducated, cretinistic, STUPID people like you to pick up and run with. I mean, I always rely on the internet for the truth about world history. Certainly not the personal accounts of my relatives who were interred in concentration camps THEMSELVES. Yep, those people are all just liars, tattooed the numbers on their arms for effect, all the pictures and records were faked too. You fucking idiot, why don't you do all of us a favor and go find new and creative ways *off the INTERNET* of sticking your own head up your ass, and keep it there.
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Indy 4 will be like Terminator 3. It'll look and sound like a sequel from the same franchise but it'll never be held in the same regard.
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heh. "After seeing WAR OF THE WORLDS I'm completely psyched to see Spielberg attack this again???" i guess that means i'm pschyed to see the first half of this proposed "indy iv". sadly, i bet the second half gets mired in pointless basements scenes that exist soley to pay homage to previous, better genre movies. and then it just ends with everything working out OK with all chars. meeting up without explanation. doh.
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to be cast as an older short round.
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Jul 12, 2005 2:19:13 AM CDT
Late 40's: Roswell N.M. and other locales. Bad Guys: America
by monkey_king
Spielberg moving back into Sci-Fi action territory? I say "It's about fucking time."
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