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Could the Yellow Bastard be an Angel' With X3 Anything Is Possible!
Hey folks, Harry here with the latest rumors on X3. There's nothing particularly negative about this update on X3. Rumors are circulating every which way - one email even claimed Ratner was fired (it isn't true). However, the following came from a source of Moriarty's that he claims has been right, and sometimes slightly off in the past. So here we go...
It is official now, the role of Angel in the upcomming X-men 3 movie will be played by up and coming young actor, Nick Stahl. Most notably recently for his role in Sin City and the ill-fated HBO series Carnivale.
Expect public notice release after teaser trailer in Fantasic Four this weekend.
However - another source that has been on the pulse of Hollywood like an amazonian leech feasting on the diseased blood of that wondrous flailing cow wading that awesome jungle river. But the Yattering tells us that Mike Vogel has been offered the role of Warren Worthington III. Personally - I'd rather HBO getting their head on straight... starting up a third season of CARNIVALE. I prefer him as an actor to Mike Vogel by like a factor of a 1000. But oddly - I think visually Vogel is more the Worthington type. Personally, I always imagined someone more like Jared Leto. Who'd you see as Warren?
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I think this film is going to be shit. But Stahl will elevate anything he works on. He almost made T3 watchable. Strangely he's building a very strong career, despite having such an odd duck look.
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First.....and I vote for Nick, he was awesome in "Bully"
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damn...I got second on the earlier story, and now third...still nowhere close enough..damn you nerds!
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...he's too busy filming THE POSIEDON ADVENTURE.
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The only choice is surely Sark himself, David Anders from Alias.
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it is going to suck, i can sense it.
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Jul 07, 2005 5:12:07 AM CDT
Fox needs to get its head on straight and plead for Singer for X
by tubbs tattsyrup
"only mostly dead, which is very nearly all dead"...sure, the team working on it could pull something decent off, but in the future, actors shouldn't have a say in the story. Jesus, why does it have to be so hard?
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The WB is starting to win, very slowly. I mean, Fantastic Four reviews are rolling in as we speak, and guess what they're saying? Utter shit. Even the "Fresh" reviews are basically trashing the film. X3 is completely and utterly doomed. Essentially 3 or 4 franchises have been extinguished under the guise of Arad (who seems to be dead, considering Harry eats him infinitely on the site). It's hilarious to watch Marvel bankrupt over a series of studios, while DC seems to flourish under one studio. It's called FOCUS and TALENT people. Arad wouldn't know talent if it bit him in the ass.
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bring it back and I will dance the dance of kings
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Because it looks like it will be a train wreck, and he is the WORST actor of his generation that I have seen on the big screen. Two great tastes that go great together.
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The guy from Alias may not be as good at acting as Stahl but he bears more of a resemblance to the character and can do an english accent. Stahl has a seen it all look which isn't right for the suave and charismatic Angel.
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Or was that- oh yeah it was- Anakin Skywalker.
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RIP. . .THANKS A LOT AVI, YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE!!!!!
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Fuck Brett Ratner and Fuck the Al Qaeda.
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Jul 07, 2005 6:31:04 AM CDT
Right on John Locke, but you know a bunch of fucking idiots will
by krullboy
just go away.
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I'M FLAPPIN' MY WINGS, BROTHER! Man, I hate to say it, but I really was holding out hope that X3 would pull out from this nose dive it's in. But every bit of news coming out just confirms Marvel and Arad have lost it. And this will suck insanely huge donkey balls. Oh, well, I guess I can hope and pray the WOLVERINE movie with just Jackman can still be salvaged!
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Now that Ratner has gotten the work part out of the way....he can concentrate on sleeping with as many young hot starlets as he can...er..."casting the female parts"....And thus, will it have 17 producers? - - - George, The 7th Chicken!!!!
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Jul 07, 2005 6:37:04 AM CDT
Is there ANYTHING positive that can be said about X3 at this poi
by commando cody
(sound of crickets chirping) Yeah, that's what I thought.
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Half an hour ago I read that it was an electrical fault. WTF?+
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Jul 07, 2005 6:43:36 AM CDT
It's a distraction, to keep the masses thoughts off of the G
by trevor goodchild
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Hell I still believe American Goverment was/could have been responsible for 9/11 (conspiracy theory maybe but a hell of a lot of money was made by some people, through War and Oil) I've read 1984 and this all seems too familiar to me. The best way for a Government to control their population is through Fear.
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Jul 07, 2005 7:02:38 AM CDT
"The best way for a Government to control their population is th
by moviemaniac-7
And they have all succeeded in the past four years, haven't they?
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An electrical fault wouldn't blow up several trains at once and rip the roof off a double decker bus. I hope everyone who posts from that side of the pond is safe and I pray that the worst is behind them.
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No doubt we'll all have to carry ID cards with tracking devices within the decade. Which other country will they try and blame this time, Iran, Syria, Egypt? Never Saudi Arabia because they are our friends.
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Never believe everything you are told. Okay there were definitely explosions that were planned, but who was responsible is debatable until there is undeniable proof, something I am yet to see for the attack on the Twin Towers and the Pentagon.
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Is that this ludicrous "stylish" (har) film that recently flopped?
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I have to say, any movie where Nick is the ugly guy and Benicio Del Toro is the good looking guy is...baffling. Then again, I never bothered to watch "Sin City" because I've felt that the strong thing a woman could do was LEAVE the slums to work for a beter life. But, that's just me.
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Though I wouldn't have immediately thought of Stahl as Warren - it's a great choice. The boy can act. (I loved Carnivale - I think Stahl is good at playing finely tuned characterizations). Even though he usually plays the dirty or slimy guy, it's really just a question of changing his look, maybe making him a bit blonder. And Irishfella, Warren isn't British. Now, if they insist on making WWII (not the war , the father) a villain, I hope they cast somebody good for that.
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He looks the part. Plus, it's not like Ratner is going to get oscar-worthy performaces out of this cast anyway...
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The one time a part calls for a run-of-the-mill pretty boy, something Hollywood should be stocked with, and they choose Nick Stahl?! Isn't he the one with a face for radio? All it takes is for someone to stumble on over to the WB. If they are truly trying to shake things up by casting a real life mutant to play Angel, maybe they can get really creative here and cast Cameron Manhiem as Shadowcat. She could stealthily hide behind cement mixers or billboards, garnering information from the enemy. Bah! It doesn't even matter anymore. At this point, it's probably more entertaining making fun of the movie than it will be actually seeing it.
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Just wondering. Not to be totally insensitive, because of what happened in London, but it doesn't seem likely that a terrorist blowing up Parliament is going to happen, is it?
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7/7 is the new 9/11. It's also my birthday. Heh. But it's an interesting thought what the filmmakers will do with this.
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These cunts have struck in London now..makes this talkback seem pointless.These fucking cunts are probably celebrating in Finsbury Park..I just don't understand why we don't get them out of the country.Aren't they a security risk?If they promote terrorism in the country they live fuck 'em.We are far too scared of PC-ness here.I fucking cannot believe Blair coming out and doing his FUCKING acting bit...long ...pauses...and...this is...another...long pause. Terrorism is utter cowardice.They will not win.I hate and pity them at the same time. Anyone who lives and works in London knows that the underground has always been a risk.It's delapidation is quaint to tourists but terrifying to residents.The buses to work are so overcrowded as well...I put in a talkback above yesterday making a joke point about how we can barely get these services working at the best of times so how could we manage the olympics.If you read it you'll understand how fucking ill I feel now....Horrifically..and I don't mean this lightly,this was fucking inevitable.Al Quida have taken "responsibility".They will not win. Even capital punishment wouldn't work.It would just inflame these cunts "responsibilites"....
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We're not very sensitive about such things. Maybe you guys will though?
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Jul 07, 2005 8:06:55 AM CDT
So what if Anders can do an English accent? Angel is AMERICAN!!
by willowfan2001
I'm not in love with any of the actors suggested so far, but I think hat Stahl is the best skills-wise and Vogel is the better choice for looks. Oddly enough, if you had asked me this six months ago I would have had only one answer: Christian Bale. Not tall enough, but the magic of camers can deal with that. Unfortunately, he's a bit tied down with another franchise at the moment.
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Jul 07, 2005 8:08:44 AM CDT
Not on Edgware Road this morning - nor Russell Square - and was
by rhett butler
Must try harder! You cowardly mother f***ers. Thanks for the support guys. It DOES mean something. It does to me. And looking at all
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Comparing the lives lost and the relative damage done, this statement has no basis in reality.
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Holy crappa, that was a the good one, my friend! "I'm a flappin' a the wings, brother!" I piss a my pants I laugha so hard! As a far as a the Nicky Stahl go, I like him inna the movie with a the hobbits, anna he's a good in the "Lost onna Gilligan's Isle" onna the TV show.
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...Fuck me! That's better news coverage I'm getting from 3 UK TV Channels put together. All they fucking talk about is the reaction from G8 leaders mostly. Are people OK? Hmm, let's go over to Tony Blair and not give you any answers. Damn, I'm not gonna let the terrorists put me off anything. I'm still gonna hike it across London to go see War of the Worlds(!) - just to stay on a film topic. 'Hayden Christensen is the worst actor of his generation'? Phheeew! A bit harsh is that. What do everyone else think?
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By a the way, Dino was a making with a the funny... before alla you putzes jump onna me for being a dummy.
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Wha' you got against a the Man Gorilla? My Kong, he coulda played the tennis game, anna he woulda kicked a the ASS! He could a beat a that Billie Jean a King, anna the McEnroe. Women's tennis, man's tennis, it don' a matter... he own alla their asses!
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the dolts at FOX need to admidt defeat and stop trying to sabetoge this franchise. X-Men is a hot property (if done properly)they need to sack ratners skanky ass, push back the release date to X-mas 2006 and get Joss Wheldon to tweak the script and direct. There. rant over. carry on...
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Seems that 1 or 2 explosions went off in Trains between stations so both stations were affected, 2 confirmed dead about 150 seriously injured and a about 250 "walking Wounded". Thanks for all the good wishes, but don't forget that this affects you guys as well. Oh and Dino, thanks for making me laugh.
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Dudes....just look at what's taking place already and filming hasn't even begun. He had Tracey X a pheromone secreting mutant prostitute written into the script? Question: Who gives a FUCK about Stacey X??? I think I'm with the rest of you in getting a bad vibe about this....
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I hear a you, Paisan!
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You're probably the kind that thinks Bush has done such a great job becuase "we're fighting them over THERE so we don't have to fight them HERE!" Obviously, with London, Madrid, and others being bombed since 9/11, you'll wake up. 9/11 was only as bad as it was because the WTC was a deathtrap once the planes hit it. This was just as evil and coordinated as 9/11. Perhaps even more sophisticated, since I'm guess the terrorists have survived to attack another day.
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Jul 07, 2005 8:42:52 AM CDT
So John-Locke doesn't believe islamic terrorists were respon
by mclennon
Brilliant. Sorry, have to go now, I am currently being controlled by the government thru fear. Idiots.
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Hahahahahahahahahaha AhHahahHHAhahHAhahah!!! Brilliant, brilliant!
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Will it be done in time?
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not on lost. the guy here. u want to hold these terrorists hands??? when u see mikey moore later tell him he was great in team america.
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Jul 07, 2005 9:12:57 AM CDT
mclennon I state it it a conspiracy theory which means it's
by john-locke
But there may be some truth. Maybe. Obviously you guy
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That guy is no where NEAR hot enough to be Angel... the other guy looks better, but im sure he's terrible as far as acting goes. I realize this is nowhere near possible casting wise but I think Hayden with he ep III hair is the way I see Worthington.
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THIS MAY SOUND BAD- BUT I PREDICT A BIT OF MOSQUE-BURNING RETALIATION- ESPECIALLY IN EAST LONDON- FUCK AL QU
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Krullboy, you rush limbaugh cock sucker, stop being a sheep.
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Jul 07, 2005 9:25:04 AM CDT
FDR knew about Pearl Harbor, therefore Bush DEFINITELY planned 9
by zacdilone
Give me a break. And by the way, George Bush is ANYTHING but a Christian Fundamentalist, if that's what you're implying. But back to X3...maybe the failure of FF will scare them into taking more time with it. One can hope.
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I will share my two cents on X3 and the terrorist attack. On X#, a friend of a friend is going through auditions to play Angel. He is saying that right now it looks like David Anders is the first choice, but the studio is also auditioning. He said his group has been paired down to about ten or so. So, that's all I know about that. I don't know the character very well, and while I LOVE Ander's Sark on Alias, he's a bit..uh...prissy...feminine, which works for a villain like that, and with the bitish accent, but I don't know how he'll play as an american. Then again, I don't know the character Angel really. As for the attacks...once again, terrorists have won. They've gotten people to talk hate at EACH OTHER even on a site dedicated to talking movies. It never ceases to amaze me that instead of a common anger against what has happened, people would rather hate on each other about the logistics of what happened. And to the poster who wanted PROOF of who was behind the 9/11 attacks, I've never understood how that argument holds any water when there isn't any proof either way. "There's no proof that Al Quaida was behind the terrorist attacks. I believe it was the US because of oil motives". Well...fantastic. I think it was Donald Trump, because on the NY 4th of July special, he was featured on camera more times than even the military. Obviously, Trump and his secret base (Located under the come over) are responsible for the attacks.
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I think most people are intelligent enough to realise this has nothing to do with muslims - most of the people being blown up by suicide bombers in Iraq are muslims - the Bali bombings (more deadly than those in Madrid or London) were against a Muslim country - most of us have muslims among our friends and aren't so stupid.
John-Locke - you're a moron. There are conspiracy theories about everything, including why there's fluoride in our drinking water and why there's a lack of cures for cancer - go back to watching the X-Files.
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"Right on John Locke, but you know a bunch of fucking idiots will say that the West "caused the Muslim rage which precipitated the attack". That's right George Soros, FUCK YOU, MOVE-ON.ORG," Gee, and they didn't even ask to see our Liberal weapons of mass desruction. They went straight to Shock and Awe.
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Whoever you think is ultimately responsible, I don't care. But from one human to another, my thoughts are with you all...
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...but i also guarantee that the attacks in MY TOWN TODAY WERE CARRIED OUT BY MUSLIMS - and that there'll be some backlash against the whole muslim community as a result of a fewextremist cunts. Its the same as blaming all us catholics for the atrocities carried out by the IRA. Just saying there'll be some mosques on fire in east london soon (i dont agree with revenge attacks, but theyll still happen)
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its ridiculous that you guys are fighting over which terrorist attack was worse, 7/7 or 9/11. Isn't it amazing how much coverage a terrorist attack gets when its in a Western country. No one cares if bombs go off in Sri Lanka, and no one cared when 13 bombs went off in a day in Bombay. I'm not saying it shouldn't, but it irks me that the supposed value of human life is much more in Europe and the US than anywhere else.
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okay, but it's my town too, and I think you're exaggerating - the people of London are very calm and together about the whole thing. We had thirty years of IRA threats (I'm catholic too, so that's not a dig at you...or at Americans who did nothing to stop Sinn Fein fundraising in the US until 9/11) and bombs - we're used to picking ourselves up and moving on. I dunno - maybe you're right that there are some stupid people around who do stupid things but, on the whole, I just don't feel it's likely. Most of us have more perspective than that and we can cope. There was an old man interviewed on TV - he said "we've been here before - don't despair, we'll roll on" - I think that sums up the way everyone's feeling who I know.
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same as the attacks on London were described by the Intelligence Agencies as "Inevitable". I know I'm probably talking a load of shit with my conspiracy theories but i've thought about it many times. I saw the Towers before they fell with my own eyes, I drank in both Bars that were destroyed in Bali (Safari & Paddys) and I've worked in central London for many years. I have an active imagination for sure but that doesn't mean I shouldn't question anything that affects the Global Political Climate.
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your ignorance would be amusing if it weren't worrying that a human can sink (and think) so low... the hundreds of iraqis being blown up? it's because they, what? went to war? the bali bombings? who did they go to war with. buy a history book, get an education - then maybe learn some spelling and some grammar - then come back
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Jul 07, 2005 9:54:45 AM CDT
John-Locke, you are a moron and you dishonor the memories of tho
by miserableraingod
John Locke, you are a sad, evil human being. Al Qaeda took responsibility. Bin Laden said "we did it." We caught a guy who was supposed to be on one of the planes, and he's from Al Qaeda. What else do you need? You are a moron and a child. You dishonor the memories of the thousands of people who died in 9/11 by suggesting that it was a scheme of the American Government to get oil. And you prove yourself to be a total moron - you contradict yourself when you say that on the one hand George Bush orchestrated 9/11 to get oil, and on the other hand he is a religious fundametalist. A true Christian Fundamentalist in this day and age could never kill so many people for a monetary gain. You are obviously an idiot. You make me sick.
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Jul 07, 2005 9:55:52 AM CDT
"Muslims aren't to blame, terrorists are. " - what a load of
by banthafodderuk
Moviemaniac - the people that blew up London today were al quaeda muslim extremists. So Im sorry, but the people that blew up london were muslim terrorists. And that sort of action will cause loads of trouble for everyday, moderate muslims. Its not fair, but then nor s melting off a woman'd face on her way to work today
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Jul 07, 2005 9:55:52 AM CDT
movieManiac, we don't only share almost the same nickname, w
by moviemaniac-7
I was wondering about how people talked about all those terrorist attacks in the third world. Only they didn't. Just another 1-minute item or less on the late night news that everybody instantly forgets. Terrorist attacks funded by the same insane retards, executed by other morons.
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Maybe I misunderstood your statement 'I still believe America was/could be responsible'. If so, sorry. Just saying I wouldn't blindly listen to conspiracy nutjobs either. Anyways, I have heard the accusation about Pearl Harbor. Never heard it was proven, but supposing it was, I would think you would see some good in it (you're British right?) since it got us involved in the war and helped your country defeat Germany. Not that I like government sponsered deciet or anything. Shouldn't we be talking about X3
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You're missing the argument that anyone who murders civilians for political reasons is not, in any credible sense, a muslim. They may claim to be, but in going against the teachings and advice of their religion, they're on their own.
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....I have some open minded, hollywood suit-style "sexy" casting choices that are not only spot-freakin-on, but cheap. We bring in Lorenzo Lamas as Angel, Ray Park back as Toad...cause face it people he was fantastic in the first one and is doing nothing but pool cleaning right now, Hulk Hogan as a Sentinel cause his pythons are still huge brother, Christina Agulleria as Stacie X cause uh...shes a slut, screw this Patrick Stewart guy, we have Steve Austin lined up as an ass kicking ...what was his name again...Xaiver, I hear Jean-Claude Van Dammne is available for Gambit and all we have to do is give him a bucket of Crack and some gay porn, and the biggest coup-de-tiat is we can get cameos from both David Hasselhoff as Nic Fury, and Dolph Lundgren as the Punisher. People we have a money making machine here. Ha ha ha, those comic geeks will love it, but if they don't uh..who cares? We still have the DVD sales. Oh this is going to make us sooooo much money, that Hummer house boat is sooo mine....we are all getting so laid off this one people. What?....Golden!....FIRE Rattner, Uwe Boll just called, he's going to Direct!
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Jul 07, 2005 10:00:49 AM CDT
gobofraggleuk- i agree - but i can just see the fucking bnp recr
by banthafodderuk
...... this has done nothing to help the image of muslims inbritain has it mate. Im not saying the uk isnt resiliant (hell, me and cpt kirks 2pay were in the city when those nail bombs were going off man) - but this shit is a whole ' nother level and it'll cause a lot more damage than just what happened today
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Jul 07, 2005 10:01:32 AM CDT
Why are these movies populated with little, skinny, bitch ass du
by mr. profit
I dont recall Angel looking like a little kid. Iceman wasn't a little kid. And how is a short dude like Topher Grace going to be a villain in Spiderman 3? Hollywood is an odd fucking place.
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Jul 07, 2005 10:01:37 AM CDT
I don't know, Torquemada was a Christian fundementalist and
by cookylamoo
Look folks, you kick over a beehive and you're going to get stung.
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is a lousy actor. I don't know much about Vogel. This movie has "incredibly lousy" written all over it. I also wish, outside of well wishes for those who lost their lives today, people would quit hijacking these talkbacks. C'mon gang. Stick to the subject. Most of us come here to get away from politics.
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The problem is, that decent Muslims have no real voice in the media. Thus no means to loudly condemn outrages like that which happened today. Most of the UK has a growing apathy towards religion - even that of their parents. So its no mystery that Muslims are generally lumped together. I dread the impact of today
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"I have heard the accusation about Pearl Harbor. Never heard it was proven, but supposing it was, I would think you would see some good in it (you're British right?) since it got us involved in the war and helped your country defeat Germany." ***Conspiracy Theory Alert (Take the following with a pinch of salt)*** Apparently the US entered the war to help end the Depression and help boost the Economy through Industry (Weapons Manufacturors) Oh and G.W.Bush's Grandpappy was making hella money from Gold stolen from the Jews by the Nazi's. Hitler started the third Reicht as a means to end the economic depression Germany was facing. He Firebombed his own Parliment (or another building of almost equal importance) and blamed it on others. ***Conspiracy Theory Over***
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..who I believe to be a Muslim, not too sure. Tell you right now, he's never thought of blowing me up. He certainly can do great Arnold Schwarzenegger impressions, but that don't mean he has a penchant for violence, nor should he deserve it towards him. So don't believe all Muslims are behind all reasons that would make you think them to shout, "CAAARMM OOORRN, KEEEEL MEEE NAAAAWWW!!!!!".
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we should all boycot this movie.
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If the English "had it coming", then so does everybody else. I actually can live with that sort of moral equivalence, because we've got the most bombs, so if it comes down to who can kill more of whom, we'll just mow you fuckers down. We may as well empty the Third World entirely - it would be more attractive as wilderness anyway.
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I was going to post something to you about true revolution being carried out by pacifists and how violence begets violence, but it's fairly obvious that you are either mentally challenged or just trying to bait people.
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First off sympathy to London. Thoughts and prayers are with you.
Blaming Christians for the problems in the world is just as ignorant as blaming Islam for terrorism. It's intolerant and shows a historical ignorance.
Iraq was ruled by a f-ing despot who gassed kurds, murdered citizens as well as family members, his sons raped girls that wouldn't sleep with 'em. But I guess us "civilized countires" are the only ones that get to participate in democracy. If I have a "Bush problem" it's with Sr. for not standing on principle like his son. -
You need to back the fuck off. What happened today was terrible by anyone's standards, not to mention 9/11. It's one thing to be against Bush, the war in Iraq, and American foreign policies (which I am) but to make a statement like you just made is totally reprehensible. Shame on you. I agree with some posters above that people are certainly stupid enough to blame all Muslims (that's like saying we should get rid of all the white guys for Timothy McVeigh), but times like these perspective is needed, not hatemongering OR useless conspiracy theories. And to the above poster who mentioned Bali - Bali is NOT a Muslim country. The surrounding islands of Indonesia are (and full of unrest, whereas Bali was mainly a tourist destination), but Bali is conspicuously Hindu (the Balinese version, anyway, which mixes indigenous religion with Hinduism). In fact, when I was there, the general attitude towards the minority Muslims was downright harsh. Maybe that's why Bali was a target - because it was a Hindu holdout in a sea of Islam. Anyway, I pray for our British friends in their time of grief and terror.
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.......good grief man, get yourself an education....or something....anything to fill up that terrible void in between your ears. That way you might avoid embarassing yourself the wya you do every single time you open you mouth.
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who cares more about inflaming others then learning facts or working on deep seeded character flaws.
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...is to get back to normal as soon as possible and not be afraid. If you aren't terrorised, the terrorists haven't succeeded. That's the attitude of the people around me in London.
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Although I don't hold high hopes for X3, I'm not convinced its going to suck just yet. I know, all of the worst elements are there, but we fans have a bad history. Many people said Battlestar Galactica sucked because it wasn't like the original. Its on it's second season.
Many others said Batman Begins would suck for going with a rubber costume instead of the Sandy Collora style. DEAD WRONG.
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Jul 07, 2005 10:49:05 AM CDT
When Did the Talkbacks Get All Political, And Why Should I Care
by magunga
This is not the appropriate forum for discussing your political beliefs in relation to the bombings earlier today. They were evil acts perpetrated by villains masquerading as revolutionaries, which resulted in the deaths of many innocent people. I mourn for the victims and their families, and I'll leave it at that.
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gobofraggleuk - I agree, my girlfriend is currently stuck in the city, with the dilemma of walking home, (about 15 miles) or getting back on the now reopened buses (fuck that!!)- but the general attitude is one of "let's get back to normality". God knows how people who are subject to regular bus bomb attacks get back on their buses day after day, cos this has left me a little wary now.....
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I thought this site was supposed to be about MOVIES and ENTERTAINMENT not quasi-xenophobic rants against various religous and ethnic groups. Cripes. (By the way not all Muslims are terrorists but all known memebers of Al Queda are Muslim)
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When Big Ben or Heathrow is a smoking ruin, then I'll believe it's al-Qaeda.
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Jude Law
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Jul 07, 2005 10:54:47 AM CDT
So, Magunga, our political views are irrelevant, but yours are s
by cookylamoo
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I think Jared Leto would have been good too. Nick Stahl is a good actor in my opinion, but he's not exactly pretty like I think Angel should be--particularly if they do the Archangel story later. Heck I'd say James Marsden is a better fit than Stahl with that kind of plan in mind. But then I really don't have a lot of faith in this. If they kill off anybody, then this will do to X-Men what Alien3 did to the Alien movies.
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...Why is this such a huge issue for some of you? Casting news is terribly mundane and will tell us little about the film. Almost everyone here seems 100% positive that this film will be awful. I can't say that. What one's heard doesn't give one a lot of faith in the project, but one would be a fool if he prognosticated a damning review of a film which hasn't even begun production yet.
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i can definitly see the terrorist attacks being orchestrated by the american government. Support for bush is going down so he needs some more terrorism to spike those polls back up and get the sheep back on his side. What better way than to have the attacks occur in another country similar to america? That way he can say that the terrorists are still gonna get ya if ya dont gimme everything i want. No americans get killed, no american property is damaged and no questions come up about how the terrorists got into the country. Thats bush's strategy now. Blow everybody else up.
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Don't know his name, but a while back he was reported as being up for the part.
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put down the magic mushrooms and back away from the nut job conspiracy theory.
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He's 20 years old, is that too young?
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...The view I expressed wasn't political. It was an observation. The bombers are very much villains, as they targeted and slaughtered innocent men, women and children. There can be no excuse for that.
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more that likely al queda
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Thank you for putting it so eloquently. This is a sad day for the Britain, and for any citizen of the world who doesn't wish to live under the thumb of terrorists. People like TeraBaapKaGaan say truly hurtful things to get a rise out of us, and we shouldn't dignify it with a response. The only response should be from a moderator, permanently banning him/her from the sight for such utter disrespect for human life.
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TeraBaapkagaan if you think comments like that will win harry's affection your sadly mistaken.
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and somewhat embarassing to the rest of the Brits here on a day that is tough enough so do shut it.
I read one of your first posts regardint the events of today stating that it was no coincidence that we got bombed as we won the Olympic vote. Indeed, had Paris won the bombers would have doubtless had to take the Eurostar pretty smartish to get their cache into the city centre there. Luckily we got it which obviously saved them the fare.
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Worhtless piece of garbage. September 11th was the funniest day ever? England had this coming to them? Whatever fucking piss-stentched basement you type out of, stay there. In fact, do yourself a favor and kill yourself. Trust me, no one will miss you, no one will care if you don't show up for your minimum-wage burger flipper job and no one will certainly wipe a tear when they see your decaying corpse in the middle of the floor a few weeks after you do the world a favor and leave it.
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Jul 07, 2005 11:21:48 AM CDT
John Locke, you might want to brush up on your history a little
by monkey butler
And your Balinese geography. It's the Sari club, not the Safari club. And the Nazi Party wasn't created to end the Depression in Germany (although it did achieve that, mostly through refusing to pay back war debts, kicking women out of the workforce and abolishing the trade unions), nor was it responsible for the destruction of the Reichstag (although, again, they did manage to turn the fire greatly to their advantage by blaming it on the Commies).>>>>> As for the London attacks, has it even been determined who did it yet? I know it's most likely Al Qaeda, or an associated group, but jumping to conclusions isn't going to help anything. It's a terrible thing to happen (just lucky it didn't happen in Sydney, our infrastructure's so shit we'd be down and out for months, unlike you guys, who seem to have got things back together within a day) and I hope everyone's OK, but pointing fingers, whether at the West or the Middle East, is just stupid. Yes, America and the West are given as the reason for Terrorist groups' hatred and violence, and yes, they've done some stupid things, but violence is violence, and it only begets more.>>>>>As for X3, well, I reckon Stahl could be good, but the movie's looking to be F4 with more characters. And that's not a good thing
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Jul 07, 2005 11:23:28 AM CDT
Nick Stahl is Angel would be good. Even Hayden Christnesen woul
by johnnytremaine
...thoughts and prayers to the victims and families of victims of the London bombings. May the perpetrators rot. Slowly.
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Wouldn't be too bad a choice I guess.
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Just kidding. I like Stahl, but not for Angel. Thoughts are with you London.
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Jul 07, 2005 11:36:33 AM CDT
Ever since I first heard that an X-Men moive was in the offing
by mortsleam
I thought that Viggo Mortenson would make a great Angel. Yes, this was a good year before filming began on Lord of the Rings, when we only knew from his turns as soldiers in G.I. Jane and Crimson Tide and lotharios in The Perfect Murder. But it was his performance as Lucifer in the Prophecy that clinched it for me. He has sharp, aquiline features, is naturally blonde, and can equally pull of charming (Angel) and menacing (Death/Archangel). But since they're skewing younger, I think Nick Stahl is actually a good choice. He's a good actor, and under all the muck they usually cover him with, he can probably pull of a rich pretty boy. And if they do eventually show the transformation into Archangel, we all know he grunges up well. This is probably all just rumor anyway. Isn't it funny that they have Juggernaut, Angel and rumors of Stacy-X? Sounds like they're trying to turn X-3 into the crapfest that was Chuck Austen's X-Men. Fitting, since Ratner is the Chuck Austen of directors. Bring on Haley Joel Osment as Squidboy!
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Chinga a tu madre PENDEJO!
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Jul 07, 2005 11:42:09 AM CDT
Barney Hood Regarding my earlier reference to the Olympics
by john-locke
Yeah it was a pretty ignorant thing to say really. I'd just turned on the TV and was also on the Net and felt the need to communicate my displeasure at the scenes I was bearing witness to. Sorry. As for me getting my history wrong Monkey Butler I never once implied that I was stating facts (apart from Pearl Harbour) but you have proven my oint anyway because whenever I have a small titbit of knowledge and mention it on here someone always comes along who's better versed in that field and sorts out any inaccuracies in my rants. As for me getting the Sari mixed up with Safari?? sorry I was there in 1999, long time ago. What
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If all you guys wanna talk about the terrible (that's why they call them terrorists Kent (Superman 2)) terrorist attacks, and what our reactions and views should be, then we all should get our asses right over to the AICN Topic about Steven Spielberg's 'Vengeance', his new film about the 1972 Terrorist assasinations of 12 Olympic competitors and the it's countrie's reaction to hunt down and kill the terror suspects. That's PERFECTLY relevant to this subject. Get over there guys...
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Jul 07, 2005 11:57:00 AM CDT
Just an update---Al Qaeda claimed responsiblity for the bombings
by johnnytremaine
More specifically, Al-Qaeda of Europe, the same group that perpetrated the Madrid train bombings. Bastards. The British should release their agents to do what the Israelis did after Munich and hunt these f***ers down.
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thanks to the red states & bush's sidekick blair, the whole world is now recieving the ass end of our awful global policy. for what? so corporate buzzards can circle iraq for leftovers from the rebuilding? so muslims worldwide (95% of them are probably the nicest people you'll meet) can live in fear of retaliation? my heart goes out to the victims & their families; after 9/11, oklahoma city, eric rudolph & the like, trust me....we know it sucks. hopefully, the brits'll show their resolve in the face of tragedy without reverting to knee-jerk "kill 'em all" zealotism.
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Jul 07, 2005 11:58:57 AM CDT
Vengeance TB is full of Fundamentalists spewing Racial or Religi
by john-locke
But i'm done anyway. Big Brothers Little Brother is on and Saskia is dishing the dirt ;-)
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Wasn't he in a small indie film called Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines. I think it grossed about $150 million. Nice source, Harry.
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For somehow findng a way to blame repulicans and red states for all this (happening an entire ocean away on a separate continent) and introducing partisan politics into everything. Yes, the republicans are to blame just like they were to blame for 9/11, the Madrid bombings and the Consulate bombings in Africa before that. They were after all the ones shaping US global policy in the 8 preceeding years prior to that in '98, with that Clinton fellow, right? I'm not one for partisan politics myself, but I have to admit that my aversion to low-wattage reasoning and logic such as yours tends to lead me to wonder whether people like yourself think before actually speaking. Do you really think, that Al Queda cares whether or not the incumbent administration is Republican or Democrat before they launch their attacks? Do you seriously think that prior to 9/11, they thought to themselves "These republicans have screwed us up so bad in the last 7 months so let's knock down a couple of their buildings just to teach them a lesson"? Really? That's rather deep thinking there....I see you really thought it all through quite well. Geeeeeez
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Follow this analogy: A man rapes and kills a woman, gets caughts and goes to prison. One night, he is brutally raped by a fellow prisoner who heard about what he had done. The man's family, in retaliation, track down the other prisoner's family, sodomize them, and then shoot them dead. Question: Where does the blame lie for each act of violence? Is it upon the prisoner who raped the rapist, the original rapist, the families of either or both of the prisoners, with everyone involved, or somewhere else?
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Nicky Stahl, he might not a be so a bad. Alla you putzes sayin' he no good, hold onna minute. If a they cast a the movie according to a the characters inna the funny books, then a the Wolverine, he be played by a the Danny DeVito. He's a short, stocky, pip-a-squeak with a the bad attitude. He's a Louie DePalma from a the Taxi TV show! But innastead, we getta the Hugh Jackman anna you guys alla love it! YOU KNOW IT'S TRUE so don' even a say nothin' about it...
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What's next?!? Halle Berry as Prof X? Haley Joel Osment as Magneto? Bob Hoskins as Wolverine? N-O-T-H-I-N-G can surprise me anymore... X3 = Dead
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Jul 07, 2005 12:42:01 PM CDT
X3?? More like Mutant X the movie. Ratner sucks shit and always
by the ghost of marcus brody
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Jul 07, 2005 12:51:57 PM CDT
I'd rather 8 bombs go off than see Hayden Christiensen in X3
by www.valiens.com
Ratner sucks, wah-wah-wah. Shut up you buncha babies. Let the man screw it up before you destroy him. Did he screw up "Red Dragon?" Did that have a sense of style? It's not all Jackie Chan shiite with this guy. At least wait for a friggen trailer. I'm sure it'll be better than Kong--and most of you are creaming over that Jar-Jar fest.
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Thank you for the words of support. I have 2 friends in hospital but thank god the injuries are not serious. All i want now is that these cowards are found. As for London and the UK we will bounce right back. The city has coped tremendously well, from the co-ordinated efforts of the emergency services to the kindness and support from the average person. I have never been so lucky to have a day off from work. As for terrabap whoever, you sicken me to the core. NO-ONE deserves what happened, except the perpetrators. And finally shame on anyway using this to attack muslims. You are slimy oppurtunists and nothing more. Thank you again to everyone else for the support. From a very lucky thankful Londoner.
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TeraBaapKaGaan, kill yourself.
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Jul 07, 2005 12:59:07 PM CDT
Well Kai_Mah'gra, Bush Sr and Reagan are responsible for fuc
by iamnicksaicnsn
so maybe not all Republicans are responsible for 9/11, but I can sure think of a couple. I don't even know if you can call these people Republicans, kleptocracists are more like it. "Of course we thought Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, Rumsfeld has the receipt!"
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Jul 07, 2005 1:00:14 PM CDT
Oh, and all the best to London, I just had a friend who was ther
by iamnicksaicnsn
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My thoughts and prayers with the British.
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and since the cast of that show has done nothing except bit parts on TV now (a boy-toy on Sex in the City, a suspect on CSI and a lesbian on the L Word respectively)I think they could all use the work
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OK i know after these latest attacks everyone is going to be on the rampage.I mean after sept 11th the US invaded iraq and started kicking ass and taking names right? And sure it makes everyone feel better knowing that people in iraq are dying and suffering just like americans did after 9/11. But what's the long term outcome to this? How hard is it going to be to recruit young kids in iraq to join terrorist groups now? If some country(lets say the US for example) invaded your country and killed your mother, father, and sister wouldn't you want to join a terrorist group to get some payback? The war in iraq isn't helping fight terrorism, it's just feeding it. The only way to stop it is to show these people in the middle east that the US, England, and other countries aren't bad. Give aid, help build schools, spend money on helping them not fighting them. Is a ten year old kid more likely to want to join a terrorist group set on killing americans if he sees schools and hospitals build by americans? or if he sees americans killing his family? Seems easy to me. Oh Yes and Mike vogel would be way better the Stahl for warren.
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The long term outcome is that once freedom is established for Iraq and everyone in the area sees how much better people can live then the desire to kill will be replaced by the desire to fulfill ones hopes and dreams. What that has to do with X3 I don't know... maybe once Arad sees how wonderful people feel about X1 and X2 he'll try to provide more of what the people want so everyone can be happy... Hmmm... one of those two isn't going to happen. Oh well, at last Iraqis will be happy in the future even if X-fans won't be.
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not at last... at LEAST.
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Just the thought of Wolverine played by Danny Devito!!! The way the X3 production is going it seems like a joke anyway. I'd be first in line if Devito was Wolvie. Just to hear him say, "Hey bub." would be worth the admission with laughs alone.
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Fuck you.
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Ah-hahahahahaha... Maybe not Wolverine, but Mean from Kitty's fairy story she told to young Illyana back in issue 160somethingorother. God I'm a geek.
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Jul 07, 2005 2:11:53 PM CDT
iamnicksaicnsn, Oh yeah, I forgot, we're not supposed to be
by kai_mah'gra
....despite the fact that American bases in Saudia Arabia and the middle East have very little if anything to do with why he wants to slaughter Americans by the hundreds, in the first place or the fact that he would still be plotting attacks against the US if the American Government pulled out every single soldier fromt he Arabian peninsula today. Which would ultimately explain why Clinton removed said bases during his term in office, right? Oh wait, what's that you say? He didn't try to remove American bases? So you're actually saying that Democrats could be just as culpable as Republicans in perpetuating what you believe to be the cause of all the hatred from Arab fundamentalists towards the U.S. too? Hmmm...I wonder why that is.........
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Hey John Locke, some how I think the ratio of Christian Fundamentalists to Islamic Fundamentalists blowing people up is a bit more skewed towards the Islamic faith. Nobody likes a zealot, but I think most like zealots with bombs even less. Get some perspective you knob.
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To quote my earlier post " Of course Islamic Fundamentalists are bad but so are Christian Fundamentalists. In fact Fundamentalism of any kind is bad M'kay" And should the possibility of both the US & UK Troops Blowing people up following orders from Fundamentalists not be explored, or would you rather bury your head in the sand like the proverbial Ostridge and pretend that all of the evils of the world stem from Islam? Not to say that they haven't got their fair share of the fuckers.
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dems hands are just as dirty as the right. no doubting that. i think its awful that innocents must suffer (both iraqi, british, whatever), our young men & women in the military have to worry about getting shot by some myopic sniper, & africa suffers from severe aids, food & genocide problems. in light of all this mess, i'm happy that readers of this site think about more than some b-movie actor plugged into another crummy attempt to separate the american public from their $$$$.
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...come in all shapes and sizes, Junior. Ask those maimed or widowed or orphaned by any abortion clinic bombing. How's that perspective for you? I guess Obi Wan was a pretty smart fucker. The truth is relative. It all depends on a certain point of view. I still think someone should tell Cheney that there's oil under the set of X3 and that Ratner may or may not have weapons of mass destruction.
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We are attempting to give aid. This bombing was timed to coincide with the G8 summit and as a result drawing public attention away from it. A summit that has placed aid to developing nations at the top of its agenda, nations which are full of Muslims who might not be getting as much help as they could have where these attacks not to have taken place.
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They are extremists, there is a difference. They are individuals that are much more in line with Christian White-power groups in their thinking than the Christian far right.
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"I still think someone should tell Cheney that there's oil under the set of X3 and that Ratner may or may not have weapons of mass destruction." This Bush supporter thinks that sentence if fucking hilarious!
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Jul 07, 2005 3:07:38 PM CDT
Childe, that's the only thing that has got me to crack a smi
by tonywilson
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Jul 07, 2005 3:23:39 PM CDT
Kai_Mah'gra, well, even if Clinton had decided to take the b
by iamnicksaicnsn
What I'm saying is that during the Afghanistan-USSR war, we encouraged the Afghanis to fight their bloody-hardest and they did so for over a decade. When all was said and done, we did nothing to support them after when their society was crippled by post-war depression, which allowed Osama and his Taliban buddies to come in and say "we're going to help you when the United States didn't, we'll stop the chaos by enforcing insane rules on your women, that will stop the rape!" etc. And the SA bases allowed Osama to propagate his "the US is trying to take over the arab world!" ideas. So, OK, there's obviously more to Osama and his reasons, but you can't argue that it's all the Democrats fault just because the Dems had the presidency for most of the 8 years and 7 months before 9/11. Also, Clinton wanted to go in and get Osama, or take out the Taliban, one of the two, but this was being put together right before the Monica scandal, so when that happened, the plans had to be scrapped because the Repubs would have screamed "HE'S TRYING TO TAKE ATTENTION AWAY FROM MONICA! LOOK AT MONICA!!! CLINTON GOT HIS DICK SUCKED!!! THE CIGARRRR!!! WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE, THINK OF THE CIGAR!!!" which would have made a situation that should never have been that big in the first place that much worse.
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besides, I don't specifically know why the movie is supposed to suck, and I don't think you do either, seeing as how there has been no trailer yet, and the poster I've seen is aight. As for Nick Stahl, I wouldn't want that ugly bastard to play angel even if he already had his own wings. (That was a little mean, what I meant was, he doesn't really look like him, unless he dies his hair)
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...you knee jerk twit. The word I used was "ratio", as in percentages. Yes I am well aware of the atrocities committed at abortion clinics by Christian fundamentalists types. I stand by my original argument.
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Hmmm. Jason Lewis, then Luke Goss, and then David Anders...
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...it's Clinton's dick's fault. If he'd kept it in his pants, maybe 9/11 wouldn't have happened. If he'd only been a more moral man, maybe more people would be alive now. I know there are people out there who would look at this whole situation and say that it was the people who were outraged at Clinton who are at fault, but no, it IS Clinton's fault for not being a more moral individual... ok, I'm done ranting. Clinton got laid and people died.
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Jul 07, 2005 4:16:24 PM CDT
No, what iamnicksaicnsn is saying is, that if SOME stupid ass re
by tonywilson
I don't think he was being too serious anyway.
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Jul 07, 2005 4:19:18 PM CDT
iamnicksaicnsn: " When all was said and done, we did nothing to
by kai_mah'gra
Once again, who do you suppose was in power for the majority of time during the period you have just mentioned above ( post-Afghanistan-USSR war period and prior to the 08/8/98 Embassy bombings in Africa), accounting for the fact that Bush Sr only had 1 term in Office, during that same time-frame? Mind you, if you re-read my post carefully you might notice this time around, that I was NOT lopping it all on the Democrats. If you're going to argue that American foreign policy is largely to blame for all the anti-Americanism in the Arab world, then for pete's sake don't try to conveniently pass off the 8 years between '92 and 2000 as if they never happened world-policy-wise form the stand-point of the American administration. Particularly because your hero Clinton was in power then. And please please please, don't even try to sell the weak argument that he was occupied with the whole Lewinsky scandal to facilitate (or even initiate) the necessary changes to American foreign policy that would have abated some of the negative feelings towards the West. That's just an embarrasing defense. I mean, what about post '98 ( after the Embassy bombings and the tail-end of the impeachment hearings) before the end of his term; what was the excuse then, for not doing anything when it could be reasonably argued that that was when the widest window of oppoturnity existed prior to 9/11 to turn thuings around? And as for the whole notion of Clinton wanting to go in and "taking Osama or the Taliban out", as you put it, you memory might be a bit hazy on this but I clearly remember his version of "taking Osama out", starting with his immediate response to the death of 12 Americans in the Embassy bombings in Africa, which was to lop a couple off cruise missiles from a Carrier in the Indian Ocean, to a nondescript Pharmeceutical factory in th Sudan. Of course it was later on proven that the factory had nothing whatsoever to do with Al-Queda or Osama, no more than did the 2 poor innocent souls that died there as a result of that pointless attack. Talk about emboldening the enemy and giving them greater incentive to aim higher and strike even bigger targets. So, is it any surprise that 3 years later they would pick 3 ( or 4 if you include the White House) of the biggest targets they could possibly take out given what they already perceived to be typical American "response" to a terrorist attack in '98? So unless you privy to White House security breifings during the mid-nineties, where these plans to "take out Osama" were being hatched, I would be curious to know what exactly it is you were talking about in referring to that. Bottomline, you can't possibly or seriously expect to blame all of this on the Republicans and conveniently leave out the Democrats, and particularly the Democratic administration of Clinton when one could easily argue that that was when most of the damage occurred given how domestic-based Clinton's policies were. And then to argue that the Republicans were attempting to distract Americans from his (Clinton's) efforts to do anything about it, by using the Lewinsky scandal and the impeachment hearings, well that's just plain idiotic. Both Republican and Democratic administrations going back as far as the Vietnam war and even before that to the start of the cold war are equally culpable in the blame game for America's foreign policy as well as the whole aspect of falling asleep at the wheel as the fundamentalists grew in strength and audacity. It's just that Republicans have been in power for the majority of that time period making them the easy and obvious target for folks like you all the while, conveniently forgetting that the Democrats protected American interests on the World stage, with as much vigour as the Republicans did, during their watch as well. So please, don't try to make saints out of them...
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...but if you also learned to read beffore typing, you'd see that I was responding to the oh-so-cleverly worded last line of your post. Not so clever in that context, is it? Now grow a sense of humor about yourself and your fuckwit politics or you're going to come off as a very angry and defensive little man.
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kinda sad really. they were doing so well.
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...what he was saying was that if there hadn't have been something to get upset over in the first place, then maybe he would have gone after the Taliban/Osama. What you're saying is like calling the parents the bad guys because they scolded the child for their bad behavior. People who say "ooo, Clinton got a blowjob" like it's no big deal really piss me off... it IS a big deal when you're the fucking President of the fucking country. Just because you may have low morals doesn't mean that we have to accept that from our leaders.
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It makes him human. I wasn't agreeing with him by the way. And you have to admit the whole episide was blown way way way out of proportion. I'll tentatively say that more money was spent trying to fuck clinton over than on the investigation in to 9/11. (say tentatively because I can't remember the exact details.) Now that, to me, smacks of low moals.
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They just wake up in the morning and say, boy, I feel like doing something really EVIL today. Thank god I have no agenda, that would take time away from just being a TOTAL BARTARD. Pass the Coco Puffs and let loose the dogs of war.
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Where are you people getting this nonsense about Clinton trying to put together a plan to get Osama? He turned the offer down when one of our allies offered him up(can't remember which country made the offer; maybe Saudi Arabia?)! Not that it makes any difference. Until Islaam is beaten down, these attacks will continue.
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I agree with the sentiment, but it's not quite as catchy as "Bush lied, kids died" or however it goes. Howzabout "Monica blew, terrorism grew." Or "A dress got stained while terrorists trained." This is kinda fun. Back on topic, do producers of shitty films ever have to answer for their crappy decisions. It seems this Rothman fuck is a walking disaster for Fox, but is he so powerful he can do whatever he wants? He certainly does look and sound like an arrogant prick. I love the internet.
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Jul 07, 2005 4:43:58 PM CDT
Oh my God, the blond doctor from house is Billy from neighbours,
by tonywilson
What about the actor from Kids and that shitty Sandra Bullock detective movie. Damn it I can't remember his name. He would be perfect.
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Jul 07, 2005 4:47:23 PM CDT
Until people like bigotted fucktards like vikingkitty are beaten
by tonywilson
I'm going to go and have a drink with my neighbour, I've never spoken to her until today's events. It's funny how these things bring people together.
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That's got a nice ring to it.
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Weak willed multi-culturalist fools like yourself will sit around and discuss how all cultures have value while Muslims are slicing the heads off people around you. Then you'll expect someone else to save your sorry ass.
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Bouncer you flamin Gallah, you bit me Yabbies ya mongolier, there aint gonna be no tucker for you now boy, I'm off to the Waterhole to get some Grog and pick up a few stubbies. Holy shit TonyWilson thats some amusing shit, he kind of looks like that dude from Murder by Numbers (if thats the shitty Sandra Bullock Detective movie you mention?) Do you remember Billy's girlfriend? she had some massive Mugumbies on her.
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You got nothing except a big mouth and a empty head.
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Jul 07, 2005 4:55:55 PM CDT
How about "My President fucked a fat chick and all I got was eig
by vikingkitty
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Now shove your multi-culturalist bullshit up your ass.
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As per someone's request, I'm posting this URL for you to visit. http://tinyurl.com/ch933
Here's the quote of interest: "Anybody who tells you these bombers are fighting for the rights of Muslims in Iraq, occupied Palestine or Chechnya should look at the places they chose to bomb. Aldgate? The poorest and most Muslim part of the country. Edgware Road? The centre of Muslim and Arab life in London and, arguably, Europe. Does anybody need greater evidence that these Islamic fundamentalists despise Muslims who choose to live in free societies, and they would enslave Muslims everywhere if they were given the opportunity? Nor is this tit-for-tat revenge for deaths in Iraq: very similar jihadist plots have been foiled in France and Germany, countries that opposed the invasion. Anybody who doubted that the fight against Islamic fundamentalism -
Jul 07, 2005 5:09:01 PM CDT
Fuck this. Good thoughts go out to the victims of today's b
by vikingkitty
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...the multiple layers of perception I was trying to convey in that particular example, lynxpro. Although it's hardly ironic in the strictest sense of that word (unless you're God and have an appreciation for the self-important behaviors of your pet talking monkeys that approximates Aristotle's take on classic Greek theatre). Personally, I tend to think that - if there is a God - He might chuckle at the idea of a child being orphaned by an abortion clinic bombing in the same way he might laugh out loud at a nation occupying a foreign land and killing its native people in the name of that same people's right to live free. Again, it's all about the perspective... and maintaining a sense of humor. Of course, if there is a God and He did set down that "Thou shalt not kill!" rule, I expect He doesn't find anything we do as a species very funny anymore. In fact, if I were Him (and I think we're all glad I'm not), I'd be looking for the cosmic "reset" button right about now.
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'nuff said.
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Hellboy700, I'm with you all the way. In fact, I did a photoshop of just how perfect Law would be for the role: http://tinyurl.com/ccgfl
I also made one for my idea of Gambit played by Gale Harold of Queer as Folk: http://tinyurl.com/79nu7
You likes?
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Great post.
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Jul 07, 2005 6:25:15 PM CDT
What I'm saying is, if the Repubs had thought about somethin
by iamnicksaicnsn
then the Monica thing wouldn't have been that big a deal. Anyway, one could make the argument that most of the damage occured from 92-00, but they would be stupid. The sad fact is that no one at that time knew just how bad Osama could be until the tail-end of Clinton's administration when the Millenium Bomb-Plot was foiled, and when the Embassy was bombed. When they did realize it, like I said, tail-end of the administration, had to transition into the Bush Jr admin. Clinton and his people warned the Bush administration that terrorism would be a problem, Bush was told that Osama wanted to use planes, 9/11 happened anyway. And nobody said Clinton was my hero, he made plenty of mistakes, but so far, Bush has made serious ones on both the home- and world-fronts.
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Jul 07, 2005 6:32:09 PM CDT
I mean, think about it! We spent more money trying to find out
by iamnicksaicnsn
then we did on find out what happened to 3,000 fucking people!!! Where is the justice? Why did the FBI destroy the FAA recordings of the air traffic controlers testimony and what they were doing at the time?
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Jul 07, 2005 6:44:38 PM CDT
Can we agree that our leaders at both ends of the ideological sp
by serious black
Revolution, baby, yeah! Either that or Ross Perot for President in 2008. Seriously, regardless of what you think of Bush, I think we need to concentrate now on finishing the job that was started, supporting our troops so they can get the hell home, and (hopefully) leaving Iraq as the a stable and independent democracy. I still think it's possible, but I'm an optimist. And I think X3 sounds stoopid, so there.
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Jul 07, 2005 6:48:37 PM CDT
I'd support a revolution. But yeah, hopefully we'll lea
by iamnicksaicnsn
but there's a lot of work to do. And we definitely have to support the troops... which means better armor, good benefits and health care for them and their family, and not shafting veterans benefits.
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Well Ive said it in another forum but i refuse to be completely disillusioned by this film. Ive seen little actual certified evidence that pushes me in the 'Oh crap x3 is fucked', everythings been rebuked or hinted at. Im fairly certain the plotline will be similar to the original script and im fairly certain someone major will die. But I am definetely not going to pass judgement on a film in which i have barely seen the skeletons ass-droppings.
Anyway Nick Stahl as Angel? Could work, he doesnt have a huge range but hes good at what he does (Introspective looking and thinky)
plus hes got a little bit of action chops on him. Trying to imagine him as blonde, built a little more and with big fucking wings and im not wholly dissapointed. The blonde hair is pretty important for this character, more important than the blonde hair for Johnny Storm (What the fuck was with that haircut?) and the Ra's Al Ghul's funny little beard. At this point i would probably prefer Stahl to Anders. But who knows? Also whoever said something like 'Whats the deal with casting all these skinny fucks in x-men?' I couldnt agree more, Angel is meant to be avian like in body shape but not skinny; hes actually quite buff, but i suppose their is a mentality to 'teenagerize' some of the main characters because that is the audience demographic they are aiming at. So instead of getting a team made up of just 20-30 somethings (Like Wolverine, Jean and Storm) we're getting a team of 15-25 somethings. I guess its more believable that young ones would do stupid things like put on costumes and go blow stuff up then older people.
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wrong forum.
I should have said.
CLINTON GOT SUCKED AND IS HORNY, I FEEL SORRY FOR LONDON. BAD TERRORISTS! Ther is no god. -
they could make bruce campbell starring as the nazi-asskicking hero captain america in THE CAPTAIN AMERICA MOVIE.
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Jul 07, 2005 8:48:43 PM CDT
How about "Bush gets the oil, but civilians pay the toll"
by rant breath
Why does Bush care about democracy in Iraq, but not about democracy in North Korea? I'll give you a hint. It starts with an O and rhymes with boil.
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Jul 07, 2005 9:00:27 PM CDT
What poses a greater threat? Saddam, with his imaginary WMD, or
by rant breath
Admit it. Bush fucked up.
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I know he had a ton of cool lines in Sin City too, but that's my favourite Nick Stahl moment from Terminator 3.
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Jul 07, 2005 9:35:58 PM CDT
Yeah, rant breath...we have such a huge surplus of oil that it&#
by cletus van damme
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Only an idiot would think that all the money that can be made from oil is from selling gasoline.
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Jul 07, 2005 9:46:56 PM CDT
Nick Stahl, you bastard! Look at the idiotic talkback you have c
by chickychow
Jesus guys, give it a break. Not worth the effort, for real.
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Um...I might be wrong. But hasn't Nick be around for like 15 years and done like, oh, I don't know...a crap load of movies?
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i could of sworn this was an Angel casting talkbalk but apparently i've entered into cnn crossfire type talkback...whatever...at least the world was blessed with the birth of freakin' TOSHIRO LUCAS MCWEENEY.
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The glib comment and delivery made me laugh out loud. I could just picture in my head cruise saying that.
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Jul 07, 2005 10:22:40 PM CDT
"What poses a greater threat? Saddam, with his imaginary WMD, or
by thirteen 13
Well in case you didn't notice (especially if you were too busy watching Dan Rather or reading Newsweek) there were already tens of thousands of terrorists. And in case you forgot (because you were too busy listening to Howard Dean screaming his lungs out), On Osama's first videotape he swore that the attacks will continue, and promised to purge the world of the infidel with his Jihad. And Osama pledged these things before Bush even so much as uttered the words "Iraq must be disarmed". So whether there are 20,000 terrorists or 40,000 terrorists now, thats still a lot of terrorists you moron.
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and the big one is the population bomb. That baby's going to level the planet.
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Unlike you, apparently. Of course Madrid was attacked...Spain was fighting with us at the time. Of course London was attacked...the UK still sides with us, and the G8 summit was in Scotland. Al Qaeda is targeting us through our allies, since they know we're not going to be dissuaded. (Of course, I'm sure if Kerry were in office, we would be pulling out of Iraq right now, leaving the country a war-torn mess without fixing anything. Talk about creating a fertile new ground for terrorism. Support Kerry, did you?) I also don't think, despite your assertions, that six to eight bombs going off around one city quite equals the hijacking of four planes and the destruction of America's tallest buildings as far as organization. I never said this wasn't a disaster or a tragedy. I said it wasn't the new 9/11, and I stand behind that. The Madrid train bombings weren't the new 9/11 either, but that doesn't make me feel any better that almost 200 good people died. And for the record, I'm not an asshole. I'm a dick. You're the one who happens to be full of shit.
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Your "starts with an o and rhymes with boil" crack, while cute, is a little undermined by the fact that you tried to rhyme "oil" and "toll" in your headline. Go back to third grade and relearn how to rhyme words. Better yet, go back to third grade and start retaking your social studies classes from that point on.
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is it me or is this coverage on the london attack not come off as a big deal?no matter what the number,it's still a real tragedy to think about the family's who are in a panic over the fact that a loved one was on that train or bus,and then find out that they died...
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Let's replace a dictatorship that can only threaten bordering countries with a breeding ground for terrorist. Way to fight that "War on Terror" you stubborn POS. Maybe if you "nation-builders" would get your heads out of your collective ass you'd realize your bull-headed policies are making things worse.
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Saying US and British citizens deserve to be the victims of acts of terrorism is deeply ugly, pathetic and contemptable. I hope terrorist attacts are stopped but if they aren't, it is my wish that for the next terrorist attack in your nation you get to experience the pain, anguish and horror first hand. I think you have earned it.
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Twice on this board, I've said that 7/7 isn't the new 9/11. But that doesn't mean it doesn't have plenty of tragedy...far more than anyone needs. Thank you for refocusing us all on what matters--the people whose lives will never be the same.
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I know its a bit late...but I've been up all night watching the news and this was the first time today I got to visit the site...so in the spirit of some of the above talkbackers...I'd just like to extend my deepest sympathy's to all of those effected by the attacks today...truly a sad day...as for X3...I am still holding out hope...what can I say? I am a Cubs fans...I have learned my entire life to hold out hope for the best...
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a cubs fan
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Jul 08, 2005 12:53:02 AM CDT
TeraBaap, if you go carryin' your pictures of Chairman Mao,
by industrykiller
Don't you know it's gonna be.......Alright?
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Jul 08, 2005 1:26:36 AM CDT
"Can we agree that our leaders at both ends of the ideological s
by voice o. reason
I can certainly agree with that.
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Jul 08, 2005 2:25:26 AM CDT
for some odd reason I've always imagined Paul Walker as Warr
by monkey_king
Nick Stahl is just wrong, just as he was wrong for John Connor in that Hamilton-less 'T3' fiasco.
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Is it too much to ask? Now that Star Wars it
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I hate those crazy sons of a bitch. I hope they burn in hell. It's not fair that innocent people die almost every day. But let
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Don' a anyone wanna talk-a-back about a the movies anymore? Goddamn putzes with a your politics... but a Dino, he was a smart one, eh? I made a the Kong with a the oil a subplot. I gotta my finger onna the pulse of the WORLD!
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Jul 08, 2005 8:24:22 AM CDT
Its not fair, but then nor s melting off a woman'd face on h
by moviemaniac
banthafodderUK, so its not fair to blame all muslims for act of terrorism, but hey, one of us white ppl got hurt so why not huh? i didn't see people victimize the entire irish population when the IRA was carrying out acts of terrorism. Those terrorists attack innocent civilians because they think the same way you do. How does that make u any different from them?
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...out of curiosity, in God's book, manslaughter is okay? Are you insinuating that God is a lawyer? If so, we're all well and truly fucked. Did James mess up all the Jesus quotes about loving thy neighbor and turning the other cheek as well? Again, just curious. I don't have the teacher's edition with all the answers in the back.
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THis script is crap, after the low action in X1 and the medium action in X2, I wanted sentinals, I wanted action, and most of all I wanted Kitty Pride played by Jennifer Morrison of HouseMD fame. She would be great as the Shadowcat. Please get bryan singer to do his X3 comic. With Sentinals!!!!!!
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No one really gives a fuck what you think, because one you can't predict the future and two the only reason bush is in is because Karl "I'll sell out CIA agents for power" Rove is doing such a good job with those stupid ass backwards living fundamentalist christians. When the rest of the country realises what this means the Bush administration is fucked. Democracy means the majority rule not the dumbest rule. Sure you got the upperhand now, but with a deficit that climbs all the time, a major fuck up on Iraq and still not being able to capture Bin Laden that advantage is being lost quicker than cows virginity in arkansas.
Go Home cry baby your in charge for the moment you should be happy not getting so angry about what you think is a minority. Oh but i forgot if you cant bash one minority you'll bash any minority.
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I meant to say there are 2 reasons why bush is in power. 1 is Karl(fuck that church state divide)Rove. 2 is 9/11.
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Eeessh, I kind of agree with some of that, but your going to get hammered by so many people mate. LOL. This will be funny.
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or is it gonna be another "all I do is float up and down with bad wire-work" like magneto and storm in x1.. oh well, with they script they have, angel`s flight should be tha last thing to worry about...
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Jul 08, 2005 11:06:50 AM CDT
"An AICN talkback wouldn't be complete without some jackass
by cookylamoo
Is there any wonder the Republicans are so well loved? Such humanitarians. So polite to their enemies. They've turned hate into a religion.
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O my goodness why are you goin to believe this site! Why are you so gullable! First they said thats Angel is a girl, then they said there was a mutant hooker. I have the real news. Look!
So has Brett Ratner's attachment to X3 made much of a difference with the script on hand? Not much according to the writer, Brett has some ideas but is sticking closely to the screenplay. Considering that it starts shooting in a few weeks there isn't many re-writes that could be done anyway.
He also confirmed what Tom Rothman told us a few minutes before, that the Dark Phoenix does have a big part in the movie but that there is also a secondary plot that is as thematically rich as any of the past films.
So what about the spoilers that Aintitcoolnews posted regarding death of mutants and sex scenes? According to Simon the script that Moriarty was referring to was 4 months old and was actually the first 88 pages of a rough draft. Bottom line is that the script that AICN was referring to is different to the one that is being prepped right now.
So will Gambit make it to the film? "He is not a major character in the film," says Simon.
Did you see that!
-Bottom line is that the script that AICN was referring to is different to the one that is being prepped right now.
If you want the write news about X-men 3 go to www.xmenfilms.net
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A Macross live action flick would kick ass. So would a proper LXG film...but whatever....we'll always have X3...er....
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I even liked T3.
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When will they start shooting? Since it's a May opening and it's not Spielberg at the helm, will they have enough time to get it done well?
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Ever hear about a lil concept called tyranny of the majority? And why the US has so much in place to prevent it? And yet it isn't at all terrifying to people that an extroardinarily thin majority thinks they have the right to run the country in complete disregard of the other half? Or is it even scarier to think that the slim minority, whom I support, are just as unlikely to take the majority's opinion into consideration if they're fortunate enough to be the beneficiaries of a power switch? Our country is fucked.
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is a pretty damn fine actor, just don't know if he is angel or not.
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