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WONDERFALLS Is Coming To Logo, The Exciting New Homosexual Satellite Channel!!
SPOILER ALERT !!
I am – Hercules!!
You say you like Tim Minear’s work buy don’t want to shell out for the DVDs to see those episodes Fox never aired?
The old news is “Firefly,” which Minear helped Joss Whedon put on its feet back in 2002, is coming to the SciFi Channel starting July 22, just in time for Universal’s big “Serenity” movie.
The newer news is “Wonderfalls,” which Minear oversaw last year alongside co-creators Bryan Fuller and Todd Holland, appears to be headed to Logo, a new Viacom-owned channel that came into being June 30.
If “Wonderfalls” seems an odd match for Logo (which is kinda being billed as The Channel For And About Homosexuals), I remind hastily that the series is teeming with lesbianism, thanks in no small part to Sharon Tyler, Jaye’s adorably horny but closeted lawyer sister. (Similarly, one would assume it’s the exciting Diaz-Keener sex that brings the brilliant Spike Jonze/Charlie Kaufman collaboration “Being John Malkovich” to the channel July 22.)
Here’s the less-good news. No one, not even the series’ masterminds, seems to know exactly when Logo relaunches the hilarious “Wonderfalls.”
Logo can already be found on DirecTV’s channel 263, which, as I type this, is airing Tony Scott’s “The Hunger.”
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I'm still wary of Superman movies period.
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Jul 01, 2005 7:27:29 PM CDT
Wow...what's with the lack of traffic? You fart, Harry?
by cletus van damme
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Bryan Singer has more than proven himself...I can't wait.
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SUPER!
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Jul 02, 2005 12:56:12 AM CDT
Two more reasons I'm proud to be Canadian this Canada Day...
by stanley spector
The complete series of Firefly and Wonderfalls have been airing in syndication here for at least six months, possibly longer.
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Totally loved the show, it died young and left a gorgeous corpse. One of the great travesties: My So Called Life, Earth 2, American Gothic, Wonderfalls.
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Jul 02, 2005 1:29:37 AM CDT
"What are we going to do tonight, sweetheart?" "Lets chew each
by tall_boy
hot hot hot
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Yeah I couldn't tell you when it started but I at least told you about that it was going to be on the network. No credit for the scoop??
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i work for MTV Networks...i was there when it went live at 9:00 EST on Thursday June 31st....
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You already have the dvds, I would buy them now this show is going to take off on there!
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went live at 9:00pm EST on Thursday June 31st...Logo started then...not on July 1st...
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ok then!
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Is this channel going to have commercials? I may watch it just to see what sort of advertising ends up on it...I'll let y'all insert your own joke there.
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i mean 6-30....oh well...whatever the last day in june was...that's what i meant....
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I haven't seen the show (that's what comes from living in Australia) but I heard an idea from one of the "creative people" on the show suggest something that went like this was planned for season 2. The sister's girlfriend breaks up with her and goes back to her boyfriend or husband or whatever but after a short while (and some heterosexual intercourse) goes back to the sister. After some intercourse (of the non-heterosexual variety) between this woman and the sister, supposedly she was supposed to transfer some residual sperm to the sister and there was going to be this whole miracle pregnancy with the sister who had never slept with a man. I just thought I'd mention that this couldn't happen because sperm wouldn't survive that kind of time in the outside environment, nor make it to the ovum. However, for everyone's informational purposes, it is the mechanism of how lesbians who have never ever slept with men can catch herpes (having contact with women who've had exposure to men with the herpes virus). I also wanted to mention the enthusiasm of the guy who came up with the idea, the way it seemed to come across when reported was very, very disturbing ... We now return you to your regular programming ...
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It would be so cool if Logo restarted the series, but with only 10 million households, I don't think that's likely. Getting the cast and crew back together would probably be impossible, too.
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Hmmm, maybe time for me to think of a new screen name? Naw... I'm not homophobic and if they're playing Wonderfalls they're cool.
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the only channel on which i could see halfway decent music videos. on top of that, my dickless digital cable provider didn't even replace it with logo, probably because i live in a gay-hating, bigoted area of the country (omaha, neb.) and they didn't want to get shit from all the redneck cable subscribers. so it's been a lose-lose situation for me. and to the brilliant fuck who supposedly works for mtv networks ... june only has 30 days, so i'd love to know how the logo channel went live on june 31.
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Don't know why. It just makes me laugh.
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is that both Bryan Fuller and Todd Holland are both openly gay?
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Jul 02, 2005 4:04:14 PM CDT
Name one TV show - just one - with a 100-percent hetero staff
by hercules
And if you're thinking The 700 Club, you might think again.
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I've worked on a few!
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"Oh, you little tramp! I hate you, I hate you!" Homosexual satellites? Is this some kind of new slang for gay men whose lives revolve around divas?
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thank you...
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... then any show or movie can be on Logo. But I'm guessing the Logo rule is there has to be some gaity in front of the camera.
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Dats why all the animation is getting shipped outa the cuntry BUNKYBOO HAS SPOKEN.
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Reportedly, the character was originally conceived as a lesbian. (Ever noticed that her name is asexual?) FOX was concerned about this, so Jaye was made straight and they created a gay sister.
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Moray wrote:
The one time I tried anal sex....they...they...they...LOL I never get that drunk at Gay parties. -
now that's REALLY gay, (to paraphrase Louis CK)
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Could you repeat your post in English? You know, with punctuation and stuff... Or at least give an outline and/or summation of what points you were trying to make?
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You're an idiot.
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Jul 03, 2005 12:44:22 AM CDT
How soon before they air shit that doesn't fit like Hannibal
by big bad clone
cause you know it'll happen. I just like when they have adds that TRY to make it seem like it fits. "Tonight on Logo: Lethal Weapon 3 because uh... Riggs and Murdock are 'partners'"
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the jokes write themselves. I'm no longer needed.
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Bill O'Reilly is a flamer if I've ever seen one.
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Face it, that was the best thing about Buffy too.
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Ha, I haven't posted to a forum in ages because of the inefficacies of reasoning with people, and here I am giving it another go.
I grant you Prior Walter's statements was a bad argument as far as arguments go, but was probably just as effective as anything I would write.
1) As such a great etymologist, then your finding of the situation as pathetic is kind, but a focus on positive change tends to be a better approach. 2) Gays are human. Those gays who enjoy gay-themed television are also human, just as African Americans who want to watch BET, historians who want to watch the Biography channel, or animal enthusiasts that want to watch Animal Planet. 3) Normal is such a loaded word. I think the idea is to be considered natural. I have yet to see anyone who I would consider normal, including civil rights activists, history buffs, patriots, goths or what have you. 4) Not all gay people try to seem different -- nor do they all try to seem the same. To address your viewpoints, however, I would suggest a little research on a phenomenon known as the availability bias. In a nutshell, you will likely assign the characteristics of the most vocal of a group of people to the group as a whole. 5) The term breeder is employed as a reponse to the socially stigmatized terms used to refer to gays. If society is going to have a negatively-connotated word for being gay, when not have one for being straight? No one is calling heterosexuality aberrent, it's just a bit of verbal sparring. 6) No one is asking for people only to have sex with members of the same gender. 7) I've seen gay (men, I'm assuming was the suggestion, but women as well) who have very bad wardrobes. 8) Ah, the English language. First off, I think its very doubtful that the true use of the word gay or queer was used first by the gay population (and allegedly they had these connotations since the early 1900s). In fact, queer probably originally started as an insult on homosexuality. The appropriation of the words to put a neutral or positive connotation on it was probably similar to the appropriation of the "N" word by African Americans. The English language itself, especially in the United States, is fundamentally a living body whose words change meaning all the time. My tongue-in-cheek remark about your use of the word pathetic is a case in point.
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The ONLY decent video channel out of 450,000 channels currently broadcasting in this country had to be nixed to add one more obscure network? Man... I had no problem with Logo before now (I'm a liberal, see,) but now... hell. FUCK Logo. Fuck them up their stupid as-- er, well... fuck 'em.
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Wow... I gotta hand it to you. Very well laid-out argument. Very articulate. I'm impressed that you were able to keep the whole thing clear-minded and PC all the while. Personally, I would've just agreed with the whole "He's an idiot" thing and left it at that. But nice job! Beyond that, though, guys like Anchorite don't have much use for levelheadedness. They don't like things being explained fairly and they don't take to other people trying to open their eyes to viewpoints they haven't yet concluded on their own (or had sold to them from the likes of Sean Hannity.) Of course, I leave the floor open for Anchorite to return and discuss your argument with you on the merit of the points you made and not simply revert to more right-wing swill, and if he can, I'll gladly fix myself a heaping plate of crow. Something just tells me that my diet this afternoon will be crow-free, however.
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Thanks for calmly and intelligently rebutting anchorite's post. Your efforts, however, don't change the fact that he's a cunt.
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Anchorite = idiot cunt.
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Jul 03, 2005 9:12:49 PM CDT
We have a channel for blacks, women, men, animals, christians, a
by bean_
(Did I leave any out?)
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Jul 03, 2005 9:12:54 PM CDT
We have a channel for blacks, women, men, animals, christians, a
by bean_
(Did I leave any out?)
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I never was a big fan and didn't watch Will & Grace that often but I remember the episodes where Jack was at a focus group for the launch of a gay cable network and his ideas for shows where so outlandish and stereotypical he was hired as a program director for the network. Thats all I can think about when it comes to this. Also, is it safe to assume they will be showing syndicated Will & Grace?
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How do you know the gay population is only 3%, you can't. No one knows how many gay people there are. Not even gay people themselves. Most are in the closet and I suspect that any numerical figure high or low submitted by the right or the left is politically loaded.
Now personally as a gay man myself. I would say gay people about make up about 8% when you add bi guys that pushes it up to about 12% and when you add in guys who'll have sex with you after a couple of bears that's brings the grand total to about 25% It's not scientific I know but what the hell, as long as were making up numbers. -
your wife sounds like one lucky woman.
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It is a term coined by psychotherapists in the early to mid 20th century to describe the behavioral masking they found in the majority of homosexual patients. Outwardly joyous and carefree, inwardly battling melancholy to deep depression from repression, confusion and separateness. Also, homosexuality was classically defined not by the attraction to the same sex, but by the repulsion from the opposite sexes genitalia, therefore disqualifying bisexuals as closet gays. It is the repellancy that led doctors to define the behavior as unhealthy, noting that many different sex objects and acts were acceptable to gays while simple penis-to-vaginal intercourse is an unacceptable and often nauseating notion.
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I'm calling you on your theory of the word gay = homosexuality. Been researching the origin for years myself, and the version was the first I've ever heard. Where'd you learn that one? Any website or book references we can double check? And no fair saying, "You don't know the history of gay! I do!". Also, your post, whether intentional or not, seems to indicate that the medical profession defines homosexuality as unhealthy. Quite the contrary. Homosexuality has been taken off the list of mental illnesses for decades now.
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Meant to say:"...and the version you posted was the first I've ever heard." Should also mention that in all the sources I've read on the subject, the origin of gay being slang for homosexuality goes back to the mid 19th century (if not earlier), not the 1950's as you state.
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While I loved your post, and agree, couldn't help but chuckle at your typo: " when you add in guys who'll have sex with you after a couple of bears..." Yeah, those bears. They always seem to get the best guys first.
Still, great post, and unintended giggle.
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gamerawangi is looks like I should proof read before I hit send ;-)
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