June 28, 2005, 9:02 p.m. CST
June 28, 2005, 11:42 p.m. CST
looks cool.. could be cool.. we'll see...
June 29, 2005, 12:48 a.m. CST
I hope to see it renewed for a full second season. I have a feeling that it won't though. Stupid Fox.
June 29, 2005, 12:56 a.m. CST
its at its best when the characters meet the killer. every episode suddenly lights up and becomes...dare i say, intelligent at that point. otherwise, im not sure why i watch. not a big buffy guy, not an angel guy. in fact, ive never watched more than 2 episodes of the former, and none at all of the later. but still i watch, and i like.
June 29, 2005, 1:10 a.m. CST
Most definitely worth watching now. The universe has already expanded beyond the somewhat nominal pilot. If the episodes keep getting better, I'll be in and hopeful for a Season 2... How are the ratings on this mother anyway? I haven't seen it in the top 10 or anything. Anyone know?
June 29, 2005, 2:25 a.m. CST
I thought Pre-Filer was your favourite of the 4 you had seen? Or am I going nuts?
June 29, 2005, 3:34 a.m. CST
...but I really wanna _love_ the show (like Minear's Wonderfalls and Firefly), so bring on the Espenson eppy! But of course, as soon as I do love this show, Fox will of course cancel it (fuckheads), so maybe I should just stick with liking it, and maybe it'll actually get renewed.
June 29, 2005, 5:51 a.m. CST
I can't believe there is a talkback for this show, but not for the best show of the summer, Rescue Me. This show was ok the first episode and has been pretty bad the last two. Let me guess, tonight they will focus on someone who they think is the killer, and at the end spring us with a twist! This show doesn't stand a chance being up against the dancing stars.
June 29, 2005, 7:58 a.m. CST
But how stupid was the ending last week? They can't get the guy in counseling or on drugs to help him? They let his wife kick him out, when the one thing he needs more than anything to keep him from doing something wrong is structure? Who the hell is running the FBI over there, Tom Cruise? Don't let him drive off, GET THE GUY SOME HELP. Besides, couldn't they at least get him a stalking conviction so that he shows up on the registry? ... I'd also like an episode where Rebecca doesn't end up captured by someone.
June 29, 2005, 8:17 a.m. CST
And I think it's getting better with each episode.
June 29, 2005, 8:21 a.m. CST
by Total Geekazoid
Dr_Dreadlocks, the reason you haven't heard anything about ratings is because they suck. The Inside regularly comes in around 4th for its time-slot. Closer to the overall bottom 10 than the top 10. If you like the show, enjoy it while it lasts, because there's no renewal in the cards with numbers like that.
June 29, 2005, 8:26 a.m. CST
because it's getting 3.2's and 4th place in its timeslot against mostly repeats. Also, it sucks ass and reeks of half the other shit on tv right now. Anyone else semi-interested in Prison Break and Bones (even though it has a holo-machine involved)?
June 29, 2005, 8:33 a.m. CST
I am loving this show and have already made the season pass commitment. The perfect moment last week was when Jayne... err, I mean Danny, silently chided the kid on his firearm technique. That made me so giddy that I was giggling through the next few scenes (even wtih the missing cat and the pedophile). Really smart, above average procedural.
June 29, 2005, 9:08 a.m. CST
by Charlemagne 2.0
... but I really do hope for a turn-around. Perhaps tonight's episode will be it. But the previous two that I have seen (missed the second episode due to a massive blackout) have just been.... not good. Not good at all.
June 29, 2005, 9:27 a.m. CST
by Darth Busey
"Buffy demigod Joss Whedon woke up this morning, had a cup of coffee, two pieces of wheat toast, and a piece of grapefruit. Coming up later, Marti Noxon takes a twenty minute poop while reading US Weekly. Report at 11."
June 29, 2005, 10:10 a.m. CST
Was going to be my cutoff point but since is it written by Jane Espenson and Becky doesn't turn victim for once I might give it a shot.
June 29, 2005, 11:51 a.m. CST
but I think I'm going to have a very hard time trying to ignore that holodeck-simulation machine..
June 29, 2005, 12:13 p.m. CST
Hail Farscape. Anyway, Jane Espenson has more than proven herself a capable writer outside of the Jossverse, and even though Angel and Firefly were Joss's babies, Tim Minear pretty much ran those shows and wrote some of their best non-Joss episodes. In fact, if I recall correctly his Angel episodes were far better than Joss's. Procedurals are not my thing, personally, but I like the characters and the effects on this one. And they used Skinny Puppy on the soundtrack. Decent summer fare - as long as they show all 13 episodes and have some kind of closure, I'm fine with it not coming back.
June 29, 2005, 1:09 p.m. CST
I have a real strong feeling this show will be canned soon enough, it's 4th in the ratings against repeats of other shows...and the worst thing going is that it's on Fox. I've seen 2 episodes and it never really stuck with me. I never really noticed but damn coming to these talkbacks is like a buffy/angel/firefly convention, if anyone even associated with any of those 3 shows is on/writes/or directs something everyone just scoops it up and no matter how it's viewed by the public they think of it as greatness. really really creepy
June 29, 2005, 1:21 p.m. CST
I'm always hearing people rip on this site for "kissing Joss Whedon's ass" or endlessly promoting buffy/angel/firefly tie-ins. Get over it. This is a fan-site. Many of the people (not all as some have reminded us) behind this site are fans of Joss Whedon and his compatriots, so of course they are going to give coverage to anything coming out of that realm. If you don't like Joss-stuff, don't read it. I know the extremes of Joss-hating haven't been expressed on this particular thread, but I just needed to say it. The AICN site is under no obligation to cover things democratically. They're going to look to the things they like.
June 29, 2005, 1:46 p.m. CST
Because his absence is one of many things that is sucking about its second season. This "people from the future" stuff stinks, I preferred the aliens. I hope it gets reversed back again soon. And that kid who was in a coma is a spoiled brat (plus he looks just 15 years younger than his dad). Also the couple with the baby have become generic and boring, you'd never know he was from the '50s and she was from the '90s. Real let down, but at least the psychic girl still works. Oh yeah, I stopped watching The Inside after the pilot, but I guess I'll try it again.
yeah, Herc, you did say that the 3rd one was your favorite. do you have stock in this show or something? also I'm going to stop watching if rebecca locke doesn't get captured every week. the only reason I'm still watching this show is to see that total piece of ass get completely worked over.
June 29, 2005, 3:20 p.m. CST
by Uncle Stan
June 29, 2005, 3:28 p.m. CST
by Darth Busey
When mighty Mephistopheles decides to carry though on his bargain with Jim Belushi...
June 29, 2005, 4:52 p.m. CST
Stop wasting all your cred shilling for it, Herc. It's over.
June 29, 2005, 5:46 p.m. CST
That the assistant best boy on one episode of Buffy could poop in a bag and film it for one full hour and Herc would pimp it like the second coming of Christ. That being said, I haven't seen this show yet, so no opinion...
June 29, 2005, 5:54 p.m. CST
I'd fast forward throught it maybe
June 29, 2005, 6:22 p.m. CST
by Prof. Pop-Cult
I don't think this show is great either, but, you know, compared with all the crap the networks air in the summertime, The Inside is at least watchable in that "don't think; just look at the pretty girl" way. Didn't they produce 11 episodes of this? Looks like another DVD box set is on the way....
June 29, 2005, 8:04 p.m. CST
I've been trying with every episode to like this show, but it just doesn't work for me. Every week I've said, "maybe tonight will be the night it takes off..." But it doesn't. Very disappointing.
June 29, 2005, 8:22 p.m. CST
Can Jane write every episode....please?
June 29, 2005, 8:36 p.m. CST
i knew she was full of crap during that whole Q&A. Now, i don't know if it was just that her acting was showing, or that she acted like she was lying really well, lol. It was also obvious as hell that the little girl was the killer. If she isnt guilty, THEN i'd be surprised. I love this show and Tim Minear and Jane Espenson all, but i have yet to be surprised by what is supposed to be a twist in each episode... who couldnt tell that the killer was really the ex-cop in episode 2 in his first scene??
June 29, 2005, 8:45 p.m. CST
i knew that demented little bitch was inching towards the door to toss herself out... not that this episode isnt really messed up, and therefore interesting as hell, but still predictable.
June 29, 2005, 9:33 p.m. CST
I've never commented before But I really feel tricked. It's another show with an interesting premise completely ruined by scenes of excruciating artificiality. She has to convince a colleague to collect evidence in a murder investigation? Good thing she said yes! Uh oh, she suggested to the mom that the suspect might not be guilty! I hope she doesn't get in trouble for that too! This nonsense needs to get canceled before I get tricked into watching another poorly written version of a psychological thriller plot.
June 29, 2005, 9:46 p.m. CST
when I find I'm tuning in each week to see which actor from Wonderfalls is going to be on. Last week was the nun, this week the maid ... I'm putting money on the Native American Accountant for next episode.
June 29, 2005, 9:46 p.m. CST
But it doesn't nearly salvage the show. There's simply not much of interest at all going on here. I don't give a damn about any of these characters, the plots need to be either more grounded in reality or COMPLETELY over-the-top ridiculous. This middling crap isn't cutting it at all. Rebecca as a character isn't mysterious, isn't interesting, and doesn't really seem all that fucking bright. So why the hell are we focused on her? IF SHE DIED IN THE NEXT EPISODE I WOULD PROBABLY BE MORE INCLINED TO KEEP WATCHING. That should say something right there about how misguided this thing is to date.
June 29, 2005, 9:46 p.m. CST
by Prof. Pop-Cult
The first issue of "Angel: The Curse" is out at your local comic book store this week. This will be a five-issue storyline, and the events take place after the final episode of "Angel". Joss Whedon provided input into the storyline, too.
having started to read this site in the first place because of the buffy talkbacks, I must say I am beginning the pooping on Joss Whedon and his cronies. If you think about it, Buffy was really bad, almost in a dawson's creek kind of way, but somehow it wasnt really. in fact sometimes it was great. (after having typed that I liked Buffy I fear ridicule even on this site and even in anonymity) but it still sucked...It's hard to explain. It was bad writing, but kind of good at the same time. Okay I really have no idea how to verbalize this. does anybody know what I'm talking about? not that we're going to get very high traffic on the insider TB. even the first one, after all Herc's hype, was a rather empty talkback. jesus, I mean take a look at the fucking Kong TB's. had no idea that so many people would feel compelled to chime in on that. also the tom cruise TB might have been best TB ever. although thinking back, that is debateable. I dont know how to spell that word.
June 29, 2005, 10:38 p.m. CST
I'm not sure Whedon's that involved with the comic. Here's a link to an interview with its writer: http://www.silverbulletcomicbooks.com/features/110791695145851.htm
June 29, 2005, 10:40 p.m. CST
by white owl
reading these stories just suck the life out of me.. I'll still have to wait until fall.
June 30, 2005, 12:32 a.m. CST
I went and saw War of the Worlds instead (which was pretty boring after the initial awe had faded) and I couldn't be bothered to TiVo it.
June 30, 2005, 4:41 a.m. CST
This girl is super beautiful , and she does a nice job on this show..so far its been mediocre but I hope it will get better..anyone know how the ratings are up till now? By the way there is a episode scheduled for next week , I checked on the fox website.
June 30, 2005, 4:46 a.m. CST
Never mind i read up and it seems they suck so this show wont last , another fox show bites the dust..to bad the lead chick is pretty cool..
June 30, 2005, 9:30 a.m. CST
the only continuity this show has so far is that they keep bringing up rebeccas abduction, other than that it's just your classic one shot episode tv show, boooring.
June 30, 2005, 9:31 a.m. CST
she's hot as hell....
June 30, 2005, 9:35 a.m. CST
Why am I surprised the rabble doesn't get it. This episode of the inside rivals anything on TV, reminding me of lost at it's best. Think about it. The lead character, who is correctly identified as a barely legal version of briget fonda, gets kidnapped in 3 out of 4 episodes. It's suggested that she orchistrated at least one of them. In this one, Rebecca Loche (or however you spell it) breaks into a little kids tree house and essentially threatens her with a gun. That scene is one of the best things I've ever seen on TV, for it's humor and it's menace. This character is barely in control, and it's through her insights and results that she can even "do her job". Any prime time character, scratch that. Any beautiful prime time character exhibiting such non-traditional personality quirks in life and death situations is something I will always enjoy watching. Those predicting this shows death are sadly right on the money. The last two times we got these stunning types of stories and characters were Wonderfalls and Firefly and we all know how those turned out. Anyone slagging this episode is quite simply a moron. I'd feel bad for you missing out on some of the finest and most challenging television on the air, but then I remember who you all collectively are. I realize that I should just be thankful I caught it myself and keep my fingers crossed I get a season.
June 30, 2005, 9:46 a.m. CST
Yeah, that has to be it...btw, everyone keeps messing this up: Rebecca DOES get captured in this episode, it's just a lot more subtle than the other episodes. So far, they're 4-for-4 in mentioning her abduction and in Rebecca getting captured.
June 30, 2005, 10:01 a.m. CST
by Charlemagne 2.0
Please. I could say the reverse given how completely inept this show is. This episode was probably the worst of the bunch - not the best.
June 30, 2005, 10:56 a.m. CST
Just cause I wanted to quote that as a subject line, too. :)
June 30, 2005, 11:02 a.m. CST
From Marc Berman's Insider: "Although original Fox drama The Inside is no blockbuster at a fourth-place 3.2/ 5 in the overnights, 3.90 million viewers and a 1.7/ 5 among adults 18-49 at 9 p.m., comparatively that was an increase over a repeat of Stacked (Overnights: #5, 2.3/ 4; Viewers: #5, 2.79 million; A18-49: #4, 1.5/ 4 at 8:30 p.m.) of 39 percent in the overnights, 1.11 viewers and 13 percent among adults 18-49. Earlier in the evening, a repeat of Fox
June 30, 2005, 1 p.m. CST
OK, there is like no team work or any kind of professional conduct among these investigators who are supposed to be 'elite'. For example, last night the fresh meat newbie chick with the really bad make-up has been 'banned' from going onto the property of this child murderer, so she tries to convince her cigarette smoking partner to climb up the treehouse and take a picture of the treetops. What makes this so moronic is that her partner is such a wuss, she has to be coaxed into climbing up a tree house, it's like an extended scene that is so stupid. If this were a professional they would be up that ladder and taking pictures just to solve the case. And so when she's at the base of the tree house she's still sucking that cigarette down, like she's afraid of climbing up into a little girls tree house, I can cut the tension with a knife. no pun intended. This show just has way too many moments like this that are truly moronic.
June 30, 2005, 2:30 p.m. CST
but I don't think it's enough to keep me watching.
June 30, 2005, 3:04 p.m. CST
None of the previous episodes were any good. THis episode was interesting and I found it entertaining. But overall this whole series is just very clunky. Meaning the acting, pacing, and plot. I know it will be gone soon, and I can't say I will really miss it.
June 30, 2005, 4:12 p.m. CST
If you don't think the chick is pretty damn hot your so gay..not that its a bad thing , just deal with it..
June 30, 2005, 4:53 p.m. CST
Chick is hot but unfortunately she's charisma-free and unengaging as the focus. Baldwin and the smug redhead might be more fun to watch as main characters.
June 30, 2005, 6:51 p.m. CST
the only reason why she didn't turn into the victim is because the 'bad guy' was 10 years old. And still she managed to put Rebeca in some troulbe by throwing herself from the tree house (that surprised me.. I thought she was going to fall off accidentally, which would have been a lot more interesting). If it had been a grown up there, she would have gotten kidnapped, and you know it! Still, this episode was worth it just for Web's response to the 'are you pitting us against eachother' line.
June 30, 2005, 8:14 p.m. CST
Setting: Rebecca and Web in Web's office: Web: So you think the mute, hospital-bound, 90 year-old Mr. Frenkini is the killer. Rebecca: I don't know. I know he's lying. Web: He hasn't said a word. Rebecca: It's in his eyes. Anybody can see it. Web: Doesn't he have a dog that stays up there with him? Rebecca: Yes, a Pembroke Welsh Corgi. Tri-Color. Web: Didn't your family have a Pembrook Welsh Corgi at the time when you were abducted? Rebecca: Well, yes, but
June 30, 2005, 8:41 p.m. CST
by Daddy Tones
BBC BUffy Site is being closed down, due to the unique way the BBC is funded.
June 30, 2005, 8:43 p.m. CST
by Daddy Tones
DO one for Firefly please.
July 1, 2005, 8:53 a.m. CST
July 1, 2005, 9:09 a.m. CST
by The Outlander
Because the people involved with it are capable so much more. This show has two fatal flaws. (1) It's a cop show. (2) The lead actress can't act. Unless they can breath some life in to the show's concept and it's lead actress this show is doomed. Quality Rating: Firefly 9/10, Wonderfalls 8/10, The Inside 5/10. Please FOX put this show out of it misery so the people involved with is can move on to better things and lead actress can go back to her modeling career. This show isn't a disappointment because I should have expected this result, the lead actress is the only cast member that Tim Minear didn't cast, I should have know.
July 1, 2005, 9:30 a.m. CST
Loved this episode clever and funny. This show is not long for this world but will be plenty good while it lasts (i didn't think the agent was afraid to go in the treehouse just annoyed and prickly-and not buying the other's theory) would love a supernatural bent to seperate it rom the pack. adam baldwin is reason alone to watch.
July 1, 2005, 9:51 a.m. CST
the rebecca character has shown herself to be pretty brave in many a situation. At some points she is vulnerable and in danger but are we so p.c that any time a woman is shown not going Ripley on someone's ass we call them a victim? sick of shows with infalible female characters. in the real world 90pd girls do not put 200pd men in sleeper holds-sorry.
July 1, 2005, 12:39 p.m. CST
I also thought this episode was a great example of Jane Espenson's brilliance. I'd watch anything she's written, I'm even thinking of looking at some of her Gilmour Girls stuff, a show I've never wanted to see. What she does is great for the characters - the way Paul reacted to the situation based on his wife's pregnancy, the character quirks for Melody Sims, even a funny line or two for Coyote (I can't remember the line, but it was a really interesting reading of it). Espenson gives actors something to sink their teeth into. And foreignerbelt, no, no one does know what you're talking about. Good but bad? The fact that you could even put Buffy and Dawson's Creek in the same sentence shows that you weren't paying attention.
July 2, 2005, 12:36 a.m. CST
that is all
July 3, 2005, 11:29 p.m. CST
>>From Timminear.net - 2005-07-3rd "Okay, gang, here