June 9, 2005, 12:55 a.m. CST
June 9, 2005, 12:55 a.m. CST
...but I have no interest in this film whatsoever.
June 9, 2005, 1:05 a.m. CST
I loved the almost spot on spook in TA:WP... Rent is pretty good to...but might be better with puppets;)
June 9, 2005, 1:06 a.m. CST
June 9, 2005, 1:07 a.m. CST
me likes. What is it a play on?
June 9, 2005, 1:09 a.m. CST
high tension right. That movie looks pretty good.
June 9, 2005, 1:12 a.m. CST
by Bungion Boy
I too saw the play when it came out on Broadway in, I believe 1995. It was a powerful piece of modern theatre. the problem is that it's still on broadway now ten years later and incredibly dated. New York isn't exactly the same place now as it was then and the play is filled with songs about living at the end of the millenium. Frankly I think that the play and probably movie is too old to be fresh and not old enough to be a period piece. I hope this is good, but I have low expectations.
June 9, 2005, 1:16 a.m. CST
which kind of ruins that whole alliteration thing you had going on, but oh well.
June 9, 2005, 1:20 a.m. CST
What a great trailer. Exactly what I'm hoping for with this flick. Great to see so much of the original cast.
June 9, 2005, 1:23 a.m. CST
since just before Lloyd Webber started putting people on skates and in Halloween costumes.
June 9, 2005, 1:35 a.m. CST
What if the animals came out and stared at you?
June 9, 2005, 1:49 a.m. CST
Why the hell is this here? And why aren't these talkbacks half as harsh as usual? This film looked like shit. Quint... Jesus man. Post "cool" news. There's a halo script being shopped around BY MASTER CHIEF, and we're reading about Rent...
June 9, 2005, 1:49 a.m. CST
...what did someone complain it was too violent?
June 9, 2005, 1:51 a.m. CST
by Dash D
Hacker2093, RENT was filmed almost entirely in San Francisco. I worked on it as an extra and was in three scenes. The big New Year's scene was supposed to look like New York City, but was filmed on 6th st. in downtown SF in April. The movie just wrapped over here a few weeks ago. Oh, and by the way, Rosario Dawson is the hottest woman in the world. She is a must see in this movie!
June 9, 2005, 1:51 a.m. CST
June 9, 2005, 1:51 a.m. CST
Actually, Hacker, it has singing and SAN FRANCISCO. Because Chris Columbus made the dubious choice of filming large swaths of it there.
June 9, 2005, 2:29 a.m. CST
Just wondering . . .
June 9, 2005, 2:33 a.m. CST
I'm sure this has an audience...but gosh I am so indifferent about this movie...
June 9, 2005, 2:42 a.m. CST
The pope has got it, and so do you!
June 9, 2005, 3:01 a.m. CST
I'm fairly certain that is my favourite song off Team America.
June 9, 2005, 3:06 a.m. CST
Get it while its hot! (or removed. Whatever. Fun song, anyway. Share the love, I tells ya) http://s47.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2445529OIOQFY18PBDZSWOK84U
June 9, 2005, 3:08 a.m. CST
Anyone know where I can get a download of it? Btw Bungion Boy RENT came out in 1996 and perphaps that is the year the movie is set in. It's interesting that they got so many of the original cast in the movie, they were mostly unknowns before they did the show and now their celebrity makes it possible to be in the film. Big time departure for Columbus, guess this'll be the movie that either gets him the big critical acclaim, or sinks his career forever. Oh, and before anyone else asks, I'll answer a few questions about RENT. No, not everyone in the story has AIDS, just 3 to 4 of the main characters. RENT is actually an update of the opera LA BOHIEME (sic). The show's creator John Larson, died of a heart ailement on the night of the preview. Taye Diggs and his wife Idina are both in the movie and meet when they were cast in the show. Yes the song in TEAM AMERICA is a parody of RENT, (it's obvious but I figured some one may ask) Trey Parker and Matt Stone are broadway fanatics. All in all this shapping up promisingly, just hope it delivers the same vibe I got when I saw the stage show in Sacramento with my then girlfriend in 1998.
June 9, 2005, 3:34 a.m. CST
isnt this the same place that has fanboys that would rather see batman in a skin tight leotard jumping around on dark wet roof tops with a little boy who doesnt wear pants and just so happens to be nicknamed "the boy wonder"? yeah real butch, never seen a more butch group in my entire life, ok well, maybe this lesbian i use to work with.
June 9, 2005, 3:34 a.m. CST
Not in the homophobic sense, but in the schoolyard sense. "Rent" is a good example of why the musical died with RIchard O'Brien. Oh wait. Anyone else here love "Shock Treatment" as much as I do? As for rent, I'm sorry to say I witnessed this spectacle of retardation on stage. Hey! Can't pay the rent? MOVE THE FUCK OUT OF NEW YORK CITY, YOU SELF-IMPORTANT FAGGOT! Oh, decadence. BTW I've fucked boys so I can't be homophobic.
June 9, 2005, 3:47 a.m. CST
Without the edge?
June 9, 2005, 4:04 a.m. CST
by Lenny Nero
June 9, 2005, 5:27 a.m. CST
Looks like a good one here!!! After the last musical-movie disaster "The phantom of the opera" maybe finally something good again. Don't forget: best musical-movie this millenium: Baz Luhrmann's Moulin Rouge
June 9, 2005, 6:14 a.m. CST
by Drunken Rage
And why the hell is this "cool"? Who gives a shit?
saw this play. my buddy was IN IT. I didnt like it that much, though I can see why artists do. Its for playfags- it is specifically tailored for that audience. They fucking love it, it's their..whatever. and by playfags I mean playfags, not actual gay people, although it is certainly possible for a gay person to be a playfag. Im talking about those kids in your high school who fucking sang in the halls, sat around and wore black together listening to music (probably the "Rent" soundtrack) at lunch, and wore big scarves and "different" clothing and shit. usually pretty nice people, but playfags are playfags, and their shit is their shit- if you're a normal person don't pretend you like this play. its for 'artists'.
June 9, 2005, 8:37 a.m. CST
"Give me the rent! I must have the rent! Pennies dimes and nickels, I need tham all right now!" (not nearly as funny as "Everyone Has AIDS," but, alas, that was already taken.)
June 9, 2005, 9:07 a.m. CST
Now I'm a big musical theatre fan. I'm one of the so called "Playfags" as foreignerbelt so bluntly put it, but am i the only one who thinks that Rent has serious problems in the second act. I honestly think if Jonathen Larson were still alive and he cleaned up the second act of the show a little bit then they could have a great show. And i don't recommend this movie (or the play quite frankly) to people who aren't familiar with it. Rent is a very mainstream musical. It isn't only for artists, the show is beloved by teenage girls everywhere. Somebody needs to get cracking on Sweeney Todd. That would show peope that musicals can be butch too. By the way...lostbat, Moulin Rouge is the second greatest movie musical ever made. The best movie musical ever made is "Little Shop of Horrors"! Let's hope that John Landis' version of Bat Boy: the Musical is just as good as Little Shop.
June 9, 2005, 9:26 a.m. CST
Why the hell did they film it in San Francisco? Hey, it's a cinematic city, for sure, but the show is very New York, from what I know. Doesn't make any sense, from a cost standpoint, since I am sure that filming there would be no cheaper than New York. And with Jesse Martin, from Law & Order which is just about the ONLY NYC crime show that they actually film IN New York, you almost expect it. I was not too jazzed about this, until the trailer, too. Love the cast, will see Rosario in just about anything, and not just because she is the lone hot WOMAN in a sea of starved GIRLS in Hollywood - Bosworth, Biel, Alba, you name it. The woman can actually act.
clonetrooper I just dont like the fact that people pretend to like this play just so they can feign artistic. It's fucking bullshit. alot of the people who force themselves to like it are those teenage girls you speak of. you're right in that its not that great, yet its popularity soared in a huge case of the Emperor's New Clothes. that's fucking stupid. that's all. it was alright. good songs sometimes. but jesus.
June 9, 2005, 10:35 a.m. CST
by Jimmy Jazz
Otherwise, fergit it.....Just thought I'd bring the discourse back to it's usual Talkback level...Still, this has absolutely no appeal for me. I have always thought that live theater was a snobby, elitist medium. Real people don't watch this stuff.
June 9, 2005, 11:51 a.m. CST
I never saw the play either, but I want to see this. I think it'll be good. It looks good at least, *g*. And that song, it probably will stay in a lot of people's heads -- I guess that's the point.
June 9, 2005, 11:54 a.m. CST
Not sure if u all know it, but by writing the kind of comments u r writing about Rent you are making yourselves look pretty stupid. Myself and my LOVER (read: gay guy) love this site, love the movies on this site, love the news on this site, BUT...we don't dis The Straights do we? Be cool...if Rent pushes your homophobic buttons, cool, but don't broadcast it, k?
June 9, 2005, 1:51 p.m. CST
Well, while I agree with some of the sentiments of mr. "payfags" post, let's clear up a few things. First of all, if you're going to signle out a group of folks in higschool by their affinity towars a specific medium, please kindly include yourself since you're using a talkback on a movie site. Playfags are just geeks who are into plays or musicals. Don't make it sound like your'e better, you're not, you just have a different set of tastes. Some people know the stats of insignificant atheletes, some can tell you who was in the original broadway cast versus a revial of a musical, and others can tell you who came up with the line "I know" in Empire Strikes Back. All geeks, just different kinds. Now, me, I'm a musical, theatre, and movie geek. ANd while I LOVE musicals of all kinds (Let's see some remakes of Into The Woods, Pirates of Penzeance (With JACK BLACK as the Pirate King!), and other classics) I can't stand Rent. It's pretentious and overrated. And I'll say the same thing about Moulin Rouge. The only good things about these two musicals is that they will increase interest in musical theatre and musical theatre being brought to the medium of film. Rent, the same as Angels In America, was only so big because they "dared" to tackle the subject of homosexuality and AIDS. Both, in my opinion, were examples of The Emperor's New Clothes. "Oh, gee, we can't be critical of a play that has man strip down to nothing and show marks on his body from AIDS" "Oh my, two men have sex onstage in a park...we can't say that this is bad, oh dear no". ANd it spilled over into film too. Philadelphia anyone? I think hanks does a great job in the film...but, watch it again, and tell me that the stronger performance isn't Denzel Washington, who was ignored by the academy. I have nothing against a strong, gay, character based play/musical/movie/tv show, but too often they fall into WIll And Grace territory, of being applauded just BECAUSE they are gay. I hope this movie does well, and they make more quality film musicals like Chicago (Up there with Fiddler on the Roof as best Musical to Film adaptation), but let's not pretend it's anything more than it is...a precursor to Mama Mia and that Queen musical. If those had an AIDS scare in them, they'd be lapping up awards too.
June 9, 2005, 2:38 p.m. CST
by Lenny Nero
"I have always thought that live theater was a snobby, elitist medium. Real people don't watch this stuff." My God, if that isn't an ignorant comment. I'm sorry that you don't like theater, and you are allowed your opinion, but Jesus Christ, at least give theater some cultural and historical credit. Film has been around for barely 100 years and is still a young child in the realm of art and entertainment. Theater has been around since Aeschylus' "The Persians," written in 472 B.C.E. Since art often reflects that culture better than history--capturing emotion and thought as opposed to merely events--theater not only stands as a means of entertainment but is infinitely helpful in understanding human nature. Hell, the form of the novel wasn't even around until the mid-2oth century. Theater challenges your imagination. I'm sorry it isn't spoonfed and a great deal of [New York] theatergoers can be snobbish, but that may be because we are sick of fuckin' rude audiences who pay millions of dollars to see the latest Adam Sandler crapfest. I may be a snob, but Jesus, give theater a break. There are so many opportunities out there, and just because you don't like some of the plays you've seen does not mean you should take the whole art form out of play. I love theater and cinema equally and recognize the qualities of each, but if you want life, theater is your best bet. Film is theater's child, never forget that. Read some good dramatic literature every once in a while. "King Lear." "Death of a Salesman." "A Streetcar Named Desire." Hell, even motherfucking "Urinetown." And yes, I love "Rent" and "Angels in America" not because they are merely bold enough to portray homosexuality, AIDS and onstage sex, but because they capture a humanity, a sense of loss in a confused country and "connection in an isolated age." Is "La Boheme" acclaimed merely because it involved consumption? *pant pant* sorry. Just had to get that out.
June 9, 2005, 4:25 p.m. CST
MikeNYC99 As a straight guy I proudly say that I LOVED RENT on stage and am looking forward to seeing it on the big screen. It'll be especially interesting to see if what they do with the scenes that took place off stage in the play since the omnipresent view of the movie camera and show it. As for the commets above, I'd ignore these twerps, they clearly have no heart and can only focus on the negative. That was actually one of the things I loved most about RENT, it was about people finding the positive in even the most negative of situations.
June 9, 2005, 4:27 p.m. CST
That's "the omnipresent view of the movie camera can show it." Ya gotta flying with no spell checker.
June 9, 2005, 5:32 p.m. CST
You're a cool man, man. Thanks for your thoughts. Yes, it's ironic, isn't it, that a work of musical art ("Rent"), about seeing the positive in the most bleak of situations is exactly what most of the negative comments do not see. Here, life is imitating art... Thanks again... :)
June 9, 2005, 6:01 p.m. CST
June 9, 2005, 6:02 p.m. CST
Maybe I'm just imagining that. Anyway, there are similarities.
June 9, 2005, 6:09 p.m. CST
Oops. I guess my question was answered before I even asked it. To the person who asked, "La Boheme" is popular because of the cultural movement it created when it premiered, which led many people to idealize a bohemian lifestyle. Don't know whether or not it's any good as an opera as it's the only opera I've ever seen, but I enjoyed it, for what it's worth.
June 9, 2005, 6:14 p.m. CST
Very unconventional, very arresting. I think it'll hook a lot of people. And Jesse L. Martin can sing! Who knew? A lot of people, but I didn't. Ahem.
June 10, 2005, 3:47 a.m. CST
Seriously though, I LOVE the play and the music is wonderful. This trailer is okay, but doesn't it just scream "Coming to the WB this fall from the creators of 'Party of Five'"? Damn you Chris Columbus, damn you to hell!
June 10, 2005, 8:37 a.m. CST
First of all, I love this play, I guess I'm what's called a "Renthead". Second, here's the reason why they shot it in San Francisco: New York doesn't look like it did at the time that the movie's set, but the locations in San Francisco apparently did. And frankly my dears, I don't give a fuck about where it is shot, they could even do it on stage and I'd die a happy death being able to see all these members of the OBC. I'm happy that this movie is finally happening and I hope that it will be succesful.
June 10, 2005, 9 a.m. CST
Wow! Chills... twice in the fraggin' trailer! I see they replaced Joanne, but the voice so much like Joanne's understudy in the soundtrack that I wonder if it is her. Either way, she's awesome. And I'm actually excited about Rosario Dawson as Mimi. And good God! They are actually going to tango The Tango Maureen! Hooray! :D
June 10, 2005, 9:29 a.m. CST
Someone beat me to the punch with the theatre-hater comments, but I'll add this...MOST theatre people=healthy, culturally aware and socially concious people trying to make the most of their medium... most FILM GEEKS= How's Momma's basement treating you, you tub of lard? Have another Bagel Bite and bitch about something you aren't talented enough to do yourself...we'll be busy changing the world. I can understand why the average movie geek would hate a theatre geek so much...while we were walking around High School "dressed in black", we were probably the only group to get mocked SLIGHTLY less than you film boys...sorry to ALMOST steal your thunder...and by the way, a grand majority of the actors in these films you love come from a theatre background...the good ones, anyway. Don't shit where you eat. Um...28th?
June 10, 2005, 11:33 a.m. CST
by Cajun Lightning
I saw Rent in previews with the original cast when I was 15 years old. It affected me the same way a lot of other people around here talk about seeing Star Wars for the first time or their first comic book or hell, even the way people talk about the freakin' Goonies for christ sake. It spoke to me and touched me in that particular moment of my life, and there's been a place in my heart for it ever since. And that is not anymore lame or pretentious than any other piece of media entertainment people freak out about on this site. Chris Columbus is certainly not someone I would have ever picked to direct (an earlier poster was right about it looking like a WB drama), but it's amazing that they got almost the entire original cast and I will certainly see it. And thank you for posting the trailer, guys. I consider it "cool" news, though that is clearly a relative term.
June 10, 2005, 1:23 p.m. CST
by Stanley Spector
Best trailer I've seen this year.
June 10, 2005, 10:37 p.m. CST
Hey, geeks, where you do think Hugh Jackman and Ian McKellan from your beloved X Men came from? Guees what, Hugh won a Tony for playing in a musical about Steve-freakin-Allen! I have to say I was really impressed with this trailer. Pretty ballsy, in that unlike Moulin Rouge, Chicago, or any of the recent ones, they really don't try to disguise the fact that it's a musical. One of the best trailers I have seen, in recent years, for sure. But it really nags at me that Chris Columbus is directing this. What has he done that is even close to this kind of film? Sad to say that the closest would be Adventures in Babysitting! I know, I know he's a Rent-head. But apparently, Mark Steven Johnson was a Daredevil fanatic, and he STILL didn't have the chops to keep from screwing that film up.
June 11, 2005, 12:18 a.m. CST
You, and people like you who really dug "Rent," should stop with the posts. Really, most people here aren't like the posters you're responding to above. We can dig it. I've never even seen "Rent," don't really like Chris Columbus (especially lately), but figured I'd check out the trailer anyway for curiosity's sake and ended up having my interest piqued. The people who think "Rent" is so uncool that it shouldn't be on AICN's front page are the same people who refer to emotions as touchy-queery crap, but they're a vocal minority. Even for a collection of ideas, which is what the TalkBack basically is, there's bound to be a few trolls lying around. I'd say most Americans aren't racist or homophobic, yet you still find a substantial amount of them around here, and it's disturbing to consider that you're arguing with people who think Kerry Washington is a "sista" and so has no business playing Alicia Masters, but it's there nonetheless. Since you don't see people sport that attitude much (relatively speaking) in the real world, I have to/want to think that it's a very small minority here. News on "Rent" is no less cool than news on 'Lords of Dogtown,' especially considering "Rent" was a pop-cultural icon in the mid-'90s and is actually full of actors I'd pay to watch. Most people here know that. I don't think you're ever going to sway the people who don't, and frankly, I wouldn't lose sleep over it.
June 11, 2005, 12:20 a.m. CST
...it's just a suggestion. I've been known to go off on futile rants against the racists in 'Daredevil' TalkBacks, from time to time.
June 11, 2005, 12:21 a.m. CST
Wow, you're an asshole. At my school we called them Theater Geeks. Or Theater Kids. Both of which sound better and less awkward than your idiotic and completely offensive moniker. Plus, you're on Ain't It fucking Cool News, so you're SOME kinda fuckin geek. Should we call you MovieFag from now on? Loser.
Wow, look what I have created. I have raised a gorgeous talkback that I can call my own. Read my posts again. What you want to be in there is not there at all. This is not your second chance to have a glorious showdown with your childhood bullies, tiger_lily. the kid who's in the national touring cast of RENT is one of my best friends. only a douche would extrapolate from that that I hate theatre people. and I made it clear that the my high school's chosen moniker for this group- no less exclusionary than 'theatre geeks'- had nothing whatsoever to do with gay people. nobody cares that you're gay. you could have sex on my living room floor and I would continue to watch tv. the trailer looked GREAT. but the play SUCKED. lots of people I know heard endless (and I mean endless)praise from all the playfags and ended up completely underwhelmed, myself included. yet the playfags tout it as a masterpiece- the playfag bible if you will (and I'm sure you will). It is not all it's cracked up to be for most of us. Don't pretend that it is, because that makes you suck. a lot. And dont get so goddamn excited about going into battle with talkback trolls when none exist in the first place. No one on this thread is going to come over to your house and hang out with you because you defended them. probably no one anywhere is going to do that. read my posts again. and take. a deep. breath. nerdsoldier. [tilting at windmills]
June 12, 2005, 12:46 p.m. CST
I don't like rent. I'm not a theater kid, or even a playfag. Your name for them just pisses me off, douche.
oh tiger_lily. I was addressing the entire thread, although that first bit was for you. sounds like it still applies. although its wonderful that you have officially separated yourself from both theatre people and gay people with one post. (you are a true champion of justice!) the only thing left to dislike about 'playfags' after eschewing both of those groups is the bullying tone it implies that has awakened a deep-seeded need for resolution in the soul of a nerd who was on the front lines of the high school battlefield. ("Were you in the shit?" "Yeah, I was in the shit.") Like I said, I did not invent the moniker. This was the term chosen by my high school, and accepted universally. The people who were in the plays called themselves playfags. And so did everyone else. Nobody cared. You've admitted that your high school had a term with the same meaning, different words. So I am not your enemy, although I do officially hate you now. Seek conflict elsewhere- I never went to your high school. Thank Jesus. [perpetuating misery]
I changed my mind, I am your enemy. If I had gone to your high school I would have had the same overwhelming urge to beat you up as everyone else did. Because the way you suck is a new super turbo way of sucking that I have never seen before in a human being. You suck. [second wind]
AH CRAP, a super cool guy with a friend in the touring company of Rent is my enemy? My life is so over.
HA. I knew you'd be back tiger_lily. how long will we quibble on this forgotten thread? as long as you remain a douchebag, is my bet. and that is going to be a mighty long time.
nope, I'm done here. have fun playing with yourself.
no come back! come on! tiger_lily! Fine. But this means I'll have to rape your mother like she asked me to do.
June 15, 2005, 10 p.m. CST
He died of an anuryism. Not AIDS
I am a bit nervous about Chris Columbus directing, but the original producers of the musical are producing the play, and Jonathan's sister and the foundation they created for him are also producers, so maybe it will work out. I loved the musical when I saw it on stage, and am very excited to see it on the screen.