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Published on Monday, June 6, 2005 - 10:24am |
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Moriarty's Seen BATMAN BEGINS!!
Hi, everyone. "Moriarty" here with some Rumblings From The Lab...
Christopher Nolan, I’d like to shake your hand.
And I’d like to congratulate Warner Bros. and DC for not only making a great BATMAN film, but also for raising the stakes on how adult and affecting a comic book movie can be. Since 1997, Warner Bros. has taken a lot of sht from every comic fan on the planet, and for this particular moment, all of that should stop. BATMAN BEGINS is a potent piece of pop mythology, confident, commercial, and mainstream as hell, but not at all what I expected when I walked into the theater last Thursday night.
It’s pretty much all I’ve been able to think about since. It’s that kind of a movie. It demands instant replay. There are things you’re going to want to look at again right away. And it’s a gloriously big movie. It sounds like a perfect fit for an IMAX run, and I may try to go back to see it that way soon. Now that I’ve seen this, it’s starting to feel like 2005 is The Summer of Fear. REVENGE OF THE SITH is all about how fear leads to the downfall of Anakin Skywalker. WAR OF THE WORLDS looks like an exercise in fear and preserving your family in the face of it. BATMAN BEGINS is obsessed with fear from its opening frames, and it manages something that no other film version of Batman has so far: it’s scary.
Once you’ve seen Nolan’s treatment of the material, it seems like a giant “duh,” but no one else has ever fully illustrated why Bruce Wayne would choose a bat as his symbol or what effect he hopes that symbol will have on others. The film also does an outstanding job of illustrating the emotional toll that the loss of his parents has on Bruce, moving past the few iconic images that we normally see so that it can etch a portrait of real loss, thanks in no small part to the affecting work of Linus Roche as Thomas Wayne, Bruce’s father. Where the film really excels is in the way it draws together at least a dozen different characters and several different story threads into a thematically coherent dramatic whole.
The film doesn’t feel episodic, or like it’s been stitched together to satisfy some marketing department checklist, with the exception of one decision we’ll discuss below. Superhero films so far have been justly criticized for a dulling sameness of plot, or for having scripts that are oftent flimsy excuses for set pieces and special effects. I love the genre, but I’ll admit that there’s lots of room for improvement. It seems like the bar is continually being reset every couple of years as filmmakers work to make better movies even as they deliver the specific thrills that fans are looking for. Last year’s SPIDER-MAN 2 was probably the pinnacle of any of the Marvel movies so far, and I expected that BATMAN BEGINS was going to be an imitation of all the things Marvel’s gotten right so far. It’s not, though, aside from that shameless DC Comics logo at the front of the film. Christopher Nolan and screenwriter David Goyer dared to aim high with this movie, and that ambition served them well. I thought Nolan was a little full of himself when I heard him namedrop BLADE RUNNER and David Lean during production. It sounded like grandiose hot air, but I can see both of those influences as more in the finished film. Nolan’s well-steeped in all the previous visual incarnations of Batman, both on the page and on the screen, and there are sly nods to the best of what’s come before peppered throughout the film. This is a fresh take, visually and dramatically, and the sheer thrill of seeing someone pull that off is worth the price of admission.
Some of the credit obviously belongs to the exceptional team of artists Nolan collaborated with on the film. Cinematographer Wally Pfister’s given the film a totally different palette than any recent comic book movie, earthy browns and yellows, hardly the primary colors of something like SPIDER-MAN or HULK, and it also eschews the simple monochromatic blacks and whites that were part of Tim Burton’s approach. There’s nothing gothic about this Gotham, and that’s fine by me. Gotham feels like a real city, and whatever special effects are used to flesh it out are meant to be invisible. Production designer Nathan Crowley hasn’t done anything like BATMAN BEGINS before now, and that may have made him the perfect guy for the job. He’s done his best to ground Gotham in the familiar, and that makes it easier to empathize with Bruce Wayne, to put yourself in his shoes. It feels like this could happen in the world we live in, not in some fantastic land of mutants and superpowers.
Christian Bale is undeniably talented. I’ve been a fan since the still-terribly-underrated EMPIRE OF THE SUN. As an adult, he specializes in chilly but fascinating. His work in last year’s THE MACHINIST was hallucinatory and daring, and far more than just a dangerous weight loss stunt. His work as Patrick Bateman in AMERICAN PSYCHO has become iconic. Here, it’s fine if Bruce Wayne comes across like a barely-restrained freak. Bale’s natural emotional reticence feels appropriate, and it actually makes us feel more for him. We see why he’s disconnected, and we see every step of his efforts to reconnect. He tries it the wrong way first, then gradually finds his way to the right method. The start of the film crosscuts between Wayne’s present and his past as he attempts to deal with the guyilt and fear brought on by the deaths of his parents. You want character arc? Well, Bruce goes through several. First he’s got to forgive himself. Then he’s got to master his fear. Then he’s got to train himself to turn that fear outward. Then he’s got to establish himself as a symbol. And the real trick of the thing is how each of these arcs is compelling in its own right. We meet a lot of interesting characters along the way, all fleshed out above and beyond the call of duty by an excellent supporting cast. Tom Wilkinson’s having obvious fun as Falcone, the city’s big mob boss, but it’s not over the top a la Jack Palance in Burton’s ’89 BATMAN. Rutger Hauer follows up his uber-creepy SIN CITY turn with quietly slimy work as Richard Earle, the man charged with running Wayne Enterprises. Cillian Murphy’s even stranger than Bale as Dr. Jonathan Crane, and the way his change into The Scarecrow is handled should give any NIGHTBREED fan a smile. I’d argue that the Scarecrow alone makes this a film that no child should see. This movie pushes the outer edge of the PG-13, and I think it’s just a matter of luck that they got the rating at all, something that definitely distinguishes this from any other BATMAN. Meanwhile, Katie Holmes has the most difficult role in the film, since it’s the one role that Goyer and Nolan didn’t crack. Rachel Dawes is the one district attorney that can’t be bribed or threatened, and she’s also supposed to be Bruce’s lifelong love interest. We already know he’s not going to end up with her, so the romantic subplot is a dud from the moment it’s introduced. If Dawes the district attorney had been replaced with Harvey Dent and the film had foregone the love interest altogether, I would have no complaints at all.
As it is, this film makes the exact same mistake regarding the love interest that Burton’s first film did: they let her into the Batcave and they reveal Bruce’s dual identity to her. It seems perfunctory, and it’s the one major narrative misstep. As useless as she is in the film, Michael Caine is absolutely indispensable as Alfred. His lifelong devotion to the Wayne family is touching and powerful because of the grace that Caine brings to it. He doesn’t have to say a word in some scenes. He just radiates a certain heartbroken strength when Wayne most needs it. Equally good is Liam Neeson as a slippery underworld figure who introduces Bruce to much of the methodology that he uses as Batman. It’s a pretty canny twist on the mentor character that Neeson normally plays, and he classes the joint up every time he’s onscreen. Morgan Freeman’s the same way. He doesn’t have a lot of screen time as Lucius Fox, the guy responsible for the development of much of the technology that Bruce uses, but he makes the most of every scene. It helps that he gets to be part of some of the most purely fun material in the film.
Finally, there’s Gary Oldman as Jim Gordon. Typically, Gordon’s been a nothing character in any of the films, but this one really lays the groundwork for Gordon as one of the key players in this franchise. I like the relationship that he has with Batman, starting with their first meeting when Gordon is the cop who comforts Bruce the night his parents are killed. This is one of the most normal roles that Oldman has ever played, the one good cop in Gotham. Gordon’s a bit of a nerd, honest to a fault, and he’s the only one Batman seems to trust. By the end of the film, they’ve reached the rapport that I’ve always pictured them having, and all the pieces are in place for what promises to be an outstanding second film.
One of the other things I love is the way all of Batman’s gadgets and vehicles and weapons and his hideout and his costumes and everything else are all grounded in a sort of reality. Sure, you’re still going to have to exercise your suspension of disbelief in order to buy into the concept of a guy in a bat suit fighting crime, but for the first time in any Batman movie, someone’s made the effort to make it seem plausible to me. I would imagine some comic book fans will be frustrated by the fact that this film invents its own continuity, sometimes in direct opposition to the way things have been written or drawn before, but that’ll always be the case. This is so smart and so densely entertaining that it seems preposterous to complain. I like the rules of this particular world. I believe in this Batsuit as something someone could wear that would allow them to kick ass while also protecting them and serving all sorts of practical functions. I believe in this Batmobile, and so will you after the incredible car chase scene that introduces the Tumbler to Gotham City, looking like something off a live news feed.
The score, an unusual collaboration by Hans Zimmer and James Newton Howard, doesn’t have a single theme as iconic as Elfman’s 1989 score, but that’s okay. It’s excellent mood music, and there’s a totally different character to each of the major settings. Just like the cinematography and design, this feels like a deliberate stylistic break from anything we’ve seen before in a Batman film. I don’t know if I’d call this heroic music, per se, but it all feels right for this story. There are some tricky tonal shifts that Nolan has to negotiate here, thanks to the fact that he gives screen time to all three of the faces of Bruce Wayne: traumatized son who is desperate for something to heal him, costumed vigilante looking for justice as revenge, and irresponsible playboy asshole in public. Bale seems to have particular fun with that third version of Wayne, and it’s nice that the film remembered to play with it. The film needs some humor from time to time because, as I said earlier, this film is scary, something I never would have expected from a Batman film. The first time he takes out a whole warehouse full of Falcone’s goons, it’s almost directed like a horror film with Batman as the monster, popping out of shadows and making people disappear. It makes it understandable later when The Scarecrow’s goons are afraid to fight Batman, afraid of the rumors they’ve heard. Even more unsettlings are the visions people have when under the influence of the Scarecrow’s gas. When Batman doses a corrupt cop and then interrogates him, we see Batman the way he does, as a screaming demon with ink black skin and a mouth full of fangs. When the whole city gets dosed later, we see Batman as a winged creature in the sky with glowing red eyes and mouth, a nightmare in flight, and people react in terror, exactly the way they should. It’s trippy, and it’s nothing you’d expect to see in a movie that’s got toys lining the shelves of Target.
I also think this is the first Batman film with genuinely good action scenes. The fights in the film are photographed close, high-impact, the opposite of the wire-work we’ve seen in so many films in the last six years or so. Nolan goes out of his way to make sure Batman doesn’t get off too easy. He makes him work for it every time, and Batman uses surprise and strategy to get the edge over his opponents since he’s not gifted with super-strength. These fights are cut quick, but don’t expect BOURNE SUPREMACY-style shaky cam. Nolan’s confident with his visuals, and he makes each of the action scenes clear and easy to understand, even as he keeps things kinetic and edgy.
If you read the script that leaked online, then you know how they close this film, with a direct sting into the sequel, and it tore the roof off the theater on Thursday night. I think people would have sat through the second film right then if it had been available. Goyer and Nolan say they’ve got a trilogy in mind, and based on this as a starting point, I hope they get to work on that second film as soon as possible. They’ve done one hell of a job convincing me that BATMAN BEGINS, and now I’m dying to see how he continues.
It’s been a rotten weekend for internet access at the Labs, but I should have things resolved sometime on Tuesday. When I’m back online, I’ll be back with our new spy and his look inside X-MEN 3’s turbulent production. You’ve no doubt seen by now that VARIETY confirmed out scoop about Brett Ratner. I can tell you that all of our script info you’ll read this week is just as accurate. For now, though, I’ve got to go to work on this week’s return of the DVD SHELF, complete with some DVD giveaways. Until then...

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Reader Talkback
rock by Shigeru | Jun 6th, 2005 10:30:51 AM | Let's pray for watchmen... by Sela5 | Jun 6th, 2005 10:31:01 AM | and/or roll. by Shigeru | Jun 6th, 2005 10:31:28 AM | or second.. by Sela5 | Jun 6th, 2005 10:31:58 AM | How much of the liquid
excrement (alias "goyer's
[anti]scrip by SalvatoreGravano | Jun 6th, 2005 10:34:21 AM | Great Stuff Mori!! I can't
wait by Josef K | Jun 6th, 2005 10:37:21 AM | Looks promising by just_hamish | Jun 6th, 2005 10:40:43 AM | I KNEW IT! I KNEW the stoopid
love story they shoehorned in
wou by Toxic Frog | Jun 6th, 2005 10:48:47 AM | Bout time by beefywhore | Jun 6th, 2005 10:49:23 AM | I may check this out in IMAX. by Barry Egan | Jun 6th, 2005 10:50:16 AM | excellent excellent - kudos to
WB for reenergizing BATMAN and
SU by Spacesheik | Jun 6th, 2005 10:51:30 AM | The Batman: DC's resident
badass. by bryce | Jun 6th, 2005 11:01:10 AM | Get out your BatKleenexes and
wipe up the mess. by Masht | Jun 6th, 2005 11:16:40 AM | Spacesheik by Darth Kong | Jun 6th, 2005 11:17:09 AM | Can't wait. by Christopher3 | Jun 6th, 2005 11:17:56 AM | Batman Baby by Zool | Jun 6th, 2005 11:18:05 AM | It's certainly beginning
to look as if Marvel have
finally r by workshed | Jun 6th, 2005 11:20:58 AM | Good news by D-Town | Jun 6th, 2005 11:21:17 AM | Hearing about those scarecrow
scenes etc really realy makes
me w by Johnno | Jun 6th, 2005 11:35:56 AM | but does it come in black? by Silver Shamrock | Jun 6th, 2005 11:45:07 AM | PLANT!! by Tal111 | Jun 6th, 2005 11:49:35 AM | Never doubted by tjrmusic | Jun 6th, 2005 11:50:14 AM | SPOILER WARNING, you fuck! by I Speak Jive | Jun 6th, 2005 11:55:00 AM | You can't trust Mori he
likes everything. Including
the horr by IndustryKiller | Jun 6th, 2005 11:57:53 AM | Alright baby..all the reviews,
except for Variety, are
good... by Lost Skeleton | Jun 6th, 2005 12:02:31 PM | thanx for writing real reviews
moriaty by josh_strapp | Jun 6th, 2005 12:05:20 PM | Batman by Mafu | Jun 6th, 2005 12:14:37 PM | Superstar Villains Are Over by Jervis Tetch | Jun 6th, 2005 12:20:26 PM | guys, don't make
IndustryKiller sad by aikimoe | Jun 6th, 2005 12:25:16 PM | He will be watching his Lars
Von Trier collection by JackRabbitSlim | Jun 6th, 2005 12:28:34 PM | Can't Wait by Saluki | Jun 6th, 2005 12:28:56 PM | Batman Begins by emeraldboy | Jun 6th, 2005 12:30:27 PM | 'tis true indeed... by Quintus_Arrius | Jun 6th, 2005 12:33:14 PM | i'm full of glee... by Quintus_Arrius | Jun 6th, 2005 12:33:32 PM | A question... by Ribbons | Jun 6th, 2005 12:35:47 PM | Wantanabe by shutterghost | Jun 6th, 2005 12:46:12 PM | Ah, now I can rest easy... by performingmonkey | Jun 6th, 2005 12:48:37 PM | Are you ready to begin? by Psycho_Kenshin | Jun 6th, 2005 12:59:28 PM | FUCK YOU Batcave spoiler JERK by all | Jun 6th, 2005 01:04:35 PM | AMEN, MORI!! by MasterWhedon | Jun 6th, 2005 01:12:18 PM | Ribbons by MasterWhedon | Jun 6th, 2005 01:15:55 PM | this movie is going to blow my
cunt right off. by andyrew | Jun 6th, 2005 01:16:57 PM | Here's to hoping by Chaka | Jun 6th, 2005 01:25:35 PM | Seeing it opening night on
IMAX by spectrebeeyatch | Jun 6th, 2005 01:32:48 PM | Ah, but Moriarty: What if
they included Harvey Dent in
place of by Nosferatu Jones | Jun 6th, 2005 01:42:00 PM | Wait wait wait... by rev_skarekroe | Jun 6th, 2005 01:43:21 PM | Holmes was just playing a High
School student... by BigTuna | Jun 6th, 2005 01:44:37 PM | She's an Assistant DA... by MasterWhedon | Jun 6th, 2005 01:48:59 PM | Mori's reviews are too
long..... by Fart_Master_Flex | Jun 6th, 2005 01:50:20 PM | repost from other thread.. by Thalya | Jun 6th, 2005 01:54:05 PM | Why thank you, Thalya... by MasterWhedon | Jun 6th, 2005 02:12:43 PM | Todd McCarthy's Variety
review... by FluffyUnbound | Jun 6th, 2005 02:15:52 PM | It's called a "SPOILER
WARNING" by The Heathen | Jun 6th, 2005 02:29:37 PM | "Spoiler Warnings" by ripper t. jones | Jun 6th, 2005 02:38:37 PM | Blade Runner as an influence?
Fuck this film then . . . by Harry Coin | Jun 6th, 2005 02:42:48 PM | BATMAN BEGINS will own EP3 by IAmLegolas | Jun 6th, 2005 02:43:16 PM | "Apologists" by ripper t. jones | Jun 6th, 2005 02:46:03 PM | Actually "FIRST" or "naysayer"
is more over-used. by The Heathen | Jun 6th, 2005 02:54:37 PM | YES. Y-E-S. YEEEESSSS! THX,
Mori. and another one:
http://www.bu by CurryIce | Jun 6th, 2005 03:00:12 PM | Ahhhhhh!!!!!! as of 6-6-05,
the next few days are going to
be th by IamNumber1 | Jun 6th, 2005 03:02:07 PM | Okay, you are my new bitch,
Ripper T. Jones by Harry Coin | Jun 6th, 2005 03:03:33 PM | Don't excuse the "spoiler
warning" on the homepage as
being by iamnicksaicnsn | Jun 6th, 2005 03:05:47 PM | my preparations for this
film... by IamNumber1 | Jun 6th, 2005 03:11:01 PM | Not to be a prude or anything
but... by Garbageman33 | Jun 6th, 2005 04:05:08 PM | Kiss my browneye, ripper t.
jones by I Speak Jive | Jun 6th, 2005 04:05:56 PM | Spoiler Warning Would Help by Saluki | Jun 6th, 2005 04:10:37 PM | By the way... by Saluki | Jun 6th, 2005 04:13:09 PM | Saluki by Garbageman33 | Jun 6th, 2005 04:17:59 PM | Master Whedon by Ribbons | Jun 6th, 2005 04:36:53 PM | Re: MasterWhedon by Thalya | Jun 6th, 2005 04:37:26 PM | Fantastic review Moriarty, BUT by Trancer | Jun 6th, 2005 04:39:40 PM | Thalya by MasterWhedon | Jun 6th, 2005 04:48:33 PM | Mori, what's up with
Watanbe? by Terry_1978 | Jun 6th, 2005 04:52:40 PM | "...directed like a horror
movie, with Batman as the
monster..." by zer0cool2k2 | Jun 6th, 2005 04:58:44 PM | Ohhh god the Batman credit
card! by Gheorghe Zamfir | Jun 6th, 2005 05:06:11 PM | arrrggh by angrykirby.tk | Jun 6th, 2005 05:07:13 PM | "SPOILER" ripper t. jones is by The Heathen | Jun 6th, 2005 05:07:58 PM | hehe... by Thalya | Jun 6th, 2005 05:11:12 PM | Hulk was the best comic movie
to date by zekmoe | Jun 6th, 2005 05:11:21 PM | Heh, I didn't know Gordons
first name is Jim.... by Archduke_Chocula | Jun 6th, 2005 05:12:27 PM | MasterWhedon by Thalya | Jun 6th, 2005 05:16:50 PM | Will this film make more $
than ROTS? by DARTH VOODOO | Jun 6th, 2005 05:22:57 PM | Commissioner Gordon Has A Beer
And Cheats On His Wife by godoffireinhell | Jun 6th, 2005 05:23:36 PM | Batman probably won't make
more money than ROTS by Gheorghe Zamfir | Jun 6th, 2005 05:28:02 PM | Cheets by Mark Twain | Jun 6th, 2005 05:50:50 PM | Batman credit card? Fuck that! by Johnno | Jun 6th, 2005 06:04:50 PM | Katie Holms is a piece of
digital art by karmicnic | Jun 6th, 2005 06:09:26 PM | seeing this tomrrow...
can't wait. And
Goyer's Script R by Russman | Jun 6th, 2005 06:09:48 PM | My God... by Thayden Ozma | Jun 6th, 2005 06:19:36 PM | Mark Twain you fucking idiot by Prophet Jeremiah | Jun 6th, 2005 06:29:02 PM | the trilogy will go down like
this... by tango fett | Jun 6th, 2005 06:33:38 PM | moviemack is dead by adambalm | Jun 6th, 2005 06:35:26 PM | The Zeitgeist Is Finally
Interesting Again... by ZombieSolutions | Jun 6th, 2005 06:40:33 PM | What About Bruce's "Ward"
Dick? by ZombieSolutions | Jun 6th, 2005 06:44:09 PM | IamNumber1 has a hell of a
point by Thayden Ozma | Jun 6th, 2005 06:48:59 PM | Someone say zeitgeist? by VastEjaculations | Jun 6th, 2005 06:55:12 PM | Hulk hogan as The riddler in
Batman: Beginnings by zer0cool2k2 | Jun 6th, 2005 07:03:49 PM | King Kong-trailer date is
announced!!! by Koola_Norway | Jun 6th, 2005 07:06:47 PM | "Zeitgeist..." by Ribbons | Jun 6th, 2005 07:31:17 PM | Umm... by Ribbons | Jun 6th, 2005 07:57:30 PM | Kaite Holmes is like 26 but
she plays a character in her
early 3 by Oski | Jun 6th, 2005 07:57:50 PM | Ribbons by adambalm | Jun 6th, 2005 08:14:46 PM | I didn't mean it that way by Ribbons | Jun 6th, 2005 08:18:27 PM | Good point by adambalm | Jun 6th, 2005 08:21:54 PM | "I expected that BATMAN BEGINS
was going to be an imitation
of a by Commando Cody | Jun 6th, 2005 08:27:24 PM | I think what Mori was saying by Gheorghe Zamfir | Jun 6th, 2005 08:37:10 PM | Elijah Wont: "Now (Morgan
Freeman) is saying that he is
followin by Commando Cody | Jun 6th, 2005 08:42:44 PM | In defense of Mori that could
be, Gheorghe. We'll have
to al by Commando Cody | Jun 6th, 2005 08:52:58 PM | sweet jesus by blackthought | Jun 6th, 2005 09:05:46 PM | Oldman as Gordon by The Pusher | Jun 6th, 2005 09:15:49 PM | ROBERT. POWER. AND MORIARTY by Knucklehead | Jun 6th, 2005 09:24:40 PM | "IF it has some sort of visual
effect going on within its
border by adambalm | Jun 6th, 2005 09:40:58 PM | yeah... Man-Thing came first
though by BurlIvesLeftNut | Jun 6th, 2005 09:53:12 PM | Just saw a preview
screening... by TopJack | Jun 6th, 2005 10:00:20 PM | "Spoiler Bitches" by ripper t. jones | Jun 6th, 2005 10:13:41 PM | "One of the other things I
love is the way all of Batman by kintar0 | Jun 6th, 2005 10:22:57 PM | mrs. miracle by whatyoufear | Jun 6th, 2005 10:34:12 PM | Morgan Freeman is gonna'
be sooooo rich by zer0cool2k2 | Jun 6th, 2005 10:59:47 PM | by Salsashark1 | Jun 6th, 2005 11:05:04 PM | Don't believe the hype,
whatyoufear... by kintar0 | Jun 6th, 2005 11:52:18 PM | Moviemack has a beer and
cheats on his wife... by kdog69 | Jun 6th, 2005 11:56:32 PM | to paraphrase kdog69's
retarded ass: by kintar0 | Jun 7th, 2005 12:08:18 AM | And you didn't even type
the "has a beer and cheets on
his w by kintar0 | Jun 7th, 2005 12:13:10 AM | Salsashark1 are you trolling
or serious? by Anla'shok | Jun 7th, 2005 12:17:13 AM | Hype? What Hype? by JUSTICE41 | Jun 7th, 2005 12:18:41 AM | Hardcoren*gger, I hope for
your sake that
Rabbisodomy/ForeverTJ/ by krullboy | Jun 7th, 2005 12:41:18 AM | Hardcorenigger is rabisodomy,
geniuses by adambalm | Jun 7th, 2005 12:48:27 AM | by Salsashark1 | Jun 7th, 2005 12:50:45 AM | RE: "I will stand up for my
race of people and make my
pride be by krullboy | Jun 7th, 2005 01:37:33 AM | But will there be neon and
Bat-ass shots? by Heckles | Jun 7th, 2005 01:38:05 AM | The logo thing is like...... by JUSTICE41 | Jun 7th, 2005 01:50:53 AM | In other news...Paramount
pulls the plug on Watchmen... by Dr_Boll | Jun 7th, 2005 01:53:59 AM | "Directed as a horror movie"
Sam Raimi should do that too
but... by chien_sale | Jun 7th, 2005 02:38:13 AM | Katie Holmes is 26 going on
27. by The Founder | Jun 7th, 2005 02:54:14 AM | Not as good as Batman
Forever... by DannyParker | Jun 7th, 2005 03:40:22 AM | U2 and Batman Forever by krullboy | Jun 7th, 2005 03:44:36 AM | You're kidding about U2,
right? by kintar0 | Jun 7th, 2005 03:49:27 AM | I'm assuming danny boy is
being sarcastic, cause batman
fore by IamNumber1 | Jun 7th, 2005 04:03:22 AM | Mr Miracle... by IamNumber1 | Jun 7th, 2005 04:06:19 AM | the leaked script is the real
script by buckaroo_banzai | Jun 7th, 2005 04:21:52 AM | PLANT! by Dolmes | Jun 7th, 2005 04:36:47 AM | Mr Miracle by Darth Kong | Jun 7th, 2005 05:14:41 AM | I agree with Moriarty's
comment about Rachel... by reignman79 | Jun 7th, 2005 07:39:59 AM | Hey, if you're sitting in
front of me during this film,
plea by www.valiens.com | Jun 7th, 2005 08:59:40 AM | As much as I worry... by Childe Roland | Jun 7th, 2005 10:19:53 AM | All your bases are belong to
us by NotFunny | Jun 7th, 2005 12:10:44 PM | Liam Neeson is Ra's Al
Ghul, Ken Watanabe is a decoy
! by NotFunny | Jun 7th, 2005 12:13:07 PM | Can't really argue with
the two thumbs way up by Doc_Strange | Jun 7th, 2005 12:32:19 PM | hmmmm..... by MattCG | Jun 7th, 2005 01:08:06 PM | i'm drooling by blackthought | Jun 7th, 2005 01:17:29 PM | We're seriously going to
have the U2 debate? by MasterWhedon | Jun 7th, 2005 02:09:34 PM | And where, o-where has my
moviemack gone? by MasterWhedon | Jun 7th, 2005 02:11:09 PM | How Gay is the New Yorker? by Anino | Jun 7th, 2005 03:49:25 PM | "U2 are without a doubt, the
biggest and *best* rock band
in the by Tinfang | Jun 7th, 2005 04:12:32 PM | "Darth Vader, it seems
Paramount's pulled the
plug on 'W by Ribbons | Jun 7th, 2005 04:27:22 PM | the watchmen by blackthought | Jun 7th, 2005 04:37:30 PM | Without Equilibrium, Bale
would've been an
afterthought. by Yellow Belly | Jun 7th, 2005 06:48:42 PM | yellow belly by whatyoufear | Jun 7th, 2005 07:06:15 PM | ms. miracle by whatyoufear | Jun 7th, 2005 07:07:48 PM | Newsies by Ribbons | Jun 7th, 2005 09:43:27 PM | Vigilante by RetroActive | Jun 7th, 2005 11:16:35 PM | My two cents... by Supermonkey321 | Jun 8th, 2005 02:07:13 AM | Did EVERYONE forget that
Batman is a detective!?!? by Supermonkey321 | Jun 8th, 2005 02:24:55 AM | "The Animated Series" will
always be the definitive
Batman for m by Mr. Anderson | Jun 8th, 2005 02:29:29 AM | moviemack and mr. miracle are
funny... by kdog69 | Jun 8th, 2005 04:44:51 AM | Gee Supermonkey321... by Anla'shok | Jun 8th, 2005 05:10:48 AM | batman animated series by blackthought | Jun 8th, 2005 10:04:07 AM | Mask ON by Kelibath | Jun 9th, 2005 12:06:05 AM | Powermetal... by IamNumber1 | Jun 9th, 2005 04:36:34 AM | Rutger Hauer! by Elwin | Jun 9th, 2005 01:53:35 PM | by Elwin | Jun 9th, 2005 01:55:01 PM | ahh yes, another round
Powermetal1? by IamNumber1 | Jun 10th, 2005 05:19:10 AM | Harrys review of Batman by snowpatrol101 | Jun 10th, 2005 05:32:17 AM | Review: Batman Begins by Dewtrell | Jun 10th, 2005 03:39:53 PM | Guess It Didn't Work by Dewtrell | Jun 10th, 2005 03:46:46 PM | Dewtrell... by IamNumber1 | Jun 11th, 2005 02:40:28 AM | POWERMETAL1 sucks and
swallows Joel Shoemaker's
cock and su by justlooking | Jun 11th, 2005 07:48:06 AM | Powermetal1 by Thayden Ozma | Jun 11th, 2005 07:52:44 AM | Batman Begins site by brinkeguthrie | Jun 11th, 2005 11:26:39 AM | Thayden ozma... by IamNumber1 | Jun 11th, 2005 01:42:03 PM | That cut like a knife. by Thayden Ozma | Jun 11th, 2005 09:37:55 PM | Thayden, were you talking to
me or to powermetal? by IamNumber1 | Jun 12th, 2005 02:02:05 AM | Ras was an eco freako and more by irishfella | Jun 13th, 2005 09:52:27 AM | Fucking awesome. Finally, a
movie tha makes a solid case
for "r by minderbinder | Jun 16th, 2005 10:15:31 AM | Call me a hater... by ANGELS-EGG | Jun 16th, 2005 12:24:14 PM | Sign the CRISPIN GLOVER as The
Joker Petition! by RIVERO | Jun 16th, 2005 01:40:32 PM | BEST Mr. Freeze would be... by GopherTrace | Jun 16th, 2005 02:24:36 PM | Interesting take on Batman
Begins by adamonkey | Jun 16th, 2005 09:07:23 PM | Jack Palance... by Rock Icon | Jun 17th, 2005 01:48:24 AM | Not that Dark by Black TARDIS | Jun 17th, 2005 02:44:40 AM | Finally, the Batman movie
fanboys have been waiting for by Thirteen 13 | Jun 17th, 2005 02:46:10 AM | FRANCHISE! FRANCHISE!
FRANCHISE! by HallowedBThyName | Jun 17th, 2005 10:25:43 PM | Is Batman kind of a Tard?
(major spoilers) by MrPants | Jun 18th, 2005 12:04:09 AM | Agree MrPants...Batman was a
brute, not a detective by Thunderballs | Jun 18th, 2005 12:22:57 AM | hopefully by blackthought | Jun 18th, 2005 12:46:26 AM | Yeah, I didn't like it
either. by Mista Mann | Jun 18th, 2005 12:57:15 AM | Thanks goodness... by ANGELS-EGG | Jun 18th, 2005 07:04:02 AM | MOVIE KICKED ASS! by blackthought | Jun 18th, 2005 10:18:45 AM | Finally, some people who
disliked it as much as I did by matthooper8 | Jun 18th, 2005 01:51:38 PM | Not Hating for Sake of Hating by MrPants | Jun 18th, 2005 02:30:40 PM | I also Think... by ANGELS-EGG | Jun 19th, 2005 04:44:26 AM | Batman Begins - on the WB -
instead of the theater by Ebullient | Jun 19th, 2005 12:13:13 PM | Rachel Dawes = R.I.P. by GEORGEFNLUCAS | Jun 19th, 2005 07:07:00 PM | 46 million = dissapointment by matthooper8 | Jun 19th, 2005 08:12:32 PM | R-ated sequel! ! ! ! ! ! ! by MikeyW | Jun 20th, 2005 05:17:51 AM | "But I don't have to save
you" by Ninja Nerd | Jun 20th, 2005 10:55:19 AM | Haters are Retarded by We'veGonePlaid | Jun 20th, 2005 11:07:06 AM | can't wait till the second
comes by blackthought | Jun 20th, 2005 03:02:36 PM | Coldplay owns all your asses! by thebearovingian | Jun 18th, 2008 12:24:15 AM |
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