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WillHunting on THE ISLAND, TRANSFORMERS & MEN IN BLACK 3
SPOILER ALERT !!
Hey folks, Harry here... Well it's looking like a fun summer for us... the turds seem to be the obvious ones at this point, and thankfully this doesn't seem like one of them. Word is coming in that George Clooney is going to be the voice of Optimus Prime - but at the bottom of this review, while Michael Bay says that it will not be the original voices in his TRANSFORMERS... he also says the script isn't done yet. So the 'rumors' on Clooney as Optimus Prime may be a bit early. Here's WillHunting with his look at THE ISLAND! The film is an early cut that isn't quite finished yet. Will seems to have taken a "this is silly" take, which seems to be counter to what most people that have seen the first 45 minutes feel. So we'll have to wait and see what others think. Here ya go...
Hello, Harry, first time poster, long time visitor to your awesome website.
I just got back from the very first test screening of The Island, at the Long Beach Town Center and all of the bigwigs from Dreamworks were there, Katzenberg, Geffen, Parkes, you name it.
Also in attendance, Michael Bay himself, who had some great news about Transformers, first the review:
The Island, as everyone knows is primarily about cloning.
Ewan McGregor plays Lincoln Six Echo, which is codeword for his host, a scot named Tom Lincoln who needs Lincoln Six Echo's liver to survive.
Scarlett Johansson plays Jordan Six Echo, Lincoln's best friend and co-worker.
The film is basically about these two "clones" who work in a sterilized enviornment wear the foods you eat and your daily contact are monitored lightly.
The believability of this film is narrow at best, one of Scarlett's beginnign scenes is smooth talking one of the cafeteria staff to give old Lincoln some bacon even though he's not allowed to have it.
These people think that they have been rescued from some sort of natural disaster, and they are the only ones still alive.
Lincoln starts having nightmares about going to see and drowning, he visits the head of the cloning facility, (Can't remember his name) but, it's played by Sean Bean, otherwise known as Boromir, Yeah, Obi-Wan and Boromir in the same room, can't go wrong there, (chuckle)
Anyways, we find out that the cloning facilty is really a harvest facility where clones are produced to harvest babies, and other vital organs for their "hosts"
The clones think that they are going to "The Island" when they are really going to get their organs harvested for their hosts.
Michael Clarke Duncun, who plays a small part is overjoyed to think he is leaving the faciility when he's really getting his liver removed.
Lincoln, after leaving his work detail witnesses this operation, and gets his "friend" Jordan, who has also won a trip to "The Island" out of there.
Once the pair leave the harvesting facilty, it's all one big chase scene, with all sorts of unbelieveable, as in nonsense action sequences, including hanging from a hotel sign logo. The two make it to L.A. but not before Lincoln's friend, played by Steve Buscemi, is killed at a train station.
The highlight of the film of course, was the freeway chase, where Lincoln and Jordan stop an entourage of large cars with dumbbells, yes, dumbells. afterwards these futurisitic flying mototcycles provide some energy.
The two finally meet Lincoln's host, Tom Lincoln, played again by Ewan McGregor, this time with a Scottish accent. His one liner about Lincoln Six Echo not "doing" Jordan had the audience in stiches.
In any case, Tom Lincoln is killed and Lincoln Six Echo and Jordan Six Echo, decide to return to the harvesting facility to "rescue" the other clones.
I won't give away the ending, but silly would be a good word to desribe it.
This is a departture for Bay, but it's still his usual blow them up escapate, although on a larger level. McGregor is flat as both Lincolns and it's obvious that Johansson is out of her league in her first big budget action film.
The only two memorable performances were Sean Bean, as the villian of the piece, and Dimon Hussou, (can't spell his name right, he's the guy from Gladiator)
You could tell the film wasn't quite finished as there were still some unfinished shots, and the ending had Hans Zimmer's Gladiator Score attached, as well as the theme from Heat during the freeway chase.
All in all, I would only mildly recommend this. After a great summer with Revenge of the Sith, Batman Begins, War of the Worlds, and Fantastic Four, I would say wait for it on video.
At the end the crowd gave a somewhat polite applause, afterwards, I shook Bay's hand in the theater lobby and asked him about Transformers, he said that the studio (Dreamworks) was still working on the script but that he was indeed involved. He hopes to start shooting early next year, and that the voices, won't be the original cast, from the old cartoon, but different voices, bummer. He wants a fresh approach to the Transformers.
Also, I shook the hand of the main man, composer, Hans Zimmer who told me that the Batman Begins score was definitely one of his best and that the film was definitely his favorite out of all of the Batman films so far, I'm stoked.
I also spoke with Walter Parkes (Producer of The Island) who told me that a third Men In Black project was in the "planning phase" and they hope to have both Will Smith and Tommy Lee Jones to return for a third time. Right now the project is still in development phase, so go figure.
In any case, youre website rocks, and if you use this information, (I hope you will) Please call me WillHunting, Thanks, and keep up the great work!
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My work here is done
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Is it just me or is the link that brought me here is pointing to the wrong place?
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WTF is up with this reviewer using the alternate spelling to every word? Was it like a joke? Where becomes "wear" Sea becomes "see". Why don't they fix these things?
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Kinda sucks about not using the voices ... while going a fresh approach is all well and good, some nostalgia is also appreciated for the long time fans
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The first one had so much heart! So much soul... 2 was terrible. It was a gimmick, a money-making machine... Let's hope 3 is the movie we all hoped 2 was going to be... even though I guess that's now impossible since Tommy Lee Jones already got his memory back, oh well
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when will this site consistently flag spoilers??? This story told us of the death of 2 characters and had no spoiler warnings. But a Dr Who story says that a particular villain may return in a future episode, and that gets a spoiler warning? Pull your finger out Harry, or get someone else to act as overall site editor and let's have some consistency...
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You know, I can't be pleased. It is not worth me getting more upset at the shitty ideas being thrown around Hollywood..George Clooney as Optimus Prime??? WTF!!! Dude... use the original Optimus Prime voice, his name is Peter Cullen, and he is still alive and kicking. And he was fantastic! My little niece and nephew watch and love the original Transformers series..FUCK!!! Let's see, how a fresh perspective? Is that why your new movie seems so much like "Logan's Run"? This Blows!!
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Making the credibility of the reviewers taste and ability to judge dross somewhat suspect in the first place!
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Jun 03, 2005 3:31:59 AM CDT
Sean Bean has been in some great stuff - someone make a SHARPE f
by scrumdiddly
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Yes indeedy, my cheese toastie shirt is a stunner.
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Jun 03, 2005 3:46:11 AM CDT
Elab49: "Making the credibility of the reviewers taste and abili
by triumph poops!
OH-PULEEZE. Give it a rest. SITH was fucking amazing movie and a great way to kick off the summer, not to mention it's one of the best SW and best genre flicks EVER. If you want to say his opinion is suspect, at least pick a legitimate reason such as him saying "After a great summer with Revenge of the Sith, Batman Begins, War of the Worlds, and Fantastic Four, I would say wait for it on video." Last time I checked my local cinema listings, neither BATMAN, WOTW or FF has even opened and I sincerely doubt this guys seen any of them, so why should they get a high ranking and pass over the Island BEFORE he's seem them? THAT'S what would make his taste suspect. Truth be told, THE ISLAND is going to be Bay doing what Bay does best, namely making a loud, noisy, fast-moving summer popcorn movie. So if you liked his stuff before...congrats, you'll likely like this one, too. On the flip side, out of all the movies he rattled off, let's face it, the FANTASTIC FOUR is likely the be the utter shitfest of the summer that people should wait for video on. But as a longtime FF fan, I'll keep fingers and toes crossed they really didn't fuck it up as badly as I suspect they did...
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"SITH was fucking amazing movie and a great way to kick off the summer, not to mention it's one of the best SW and best genre flicks EVER."
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Fresh approach to TF? What a stupid idea............. Generation One is the only reason to have this movie in the first place..........And a big part of that original magic of G1 was the voice cast.........its also a big reason this grown man (me) just shelled out a lot of money for the entire original G1 series' on DVD.............stick to the source Mr Bay, and with so many of the original cast still alive, its such a waste to not give them their proper due..............shit, lets be honest, 99% of audiences dont care about celebrity voices........sure, it might get some extra mainstream media attention for a flick, but lets put it in perspective - the most memorable voice in The Incredibles was the directors............the others, while adequate, are replaceable due to their plainness............the original cast were chosen for balance and character........this Clooney rumour better be wrong........so should the other rumour about the theme of the script (imagine if YOUR CAR was a transformer).........Fuck that..........those Autobots and Decepticons better come from Cybertron, and they better not be played in the film for a one note joke............stick to the source Mr Bay........I'm hearing to many things that point to you not caring about the themes of G1...............they transform for disguise in a war............not so teenagers can drive around in them....(unless its Spike, Chip or Daniel, or someone else helping the Autobots FIGHT THE WAR)..............stick to the source Mr Bay - G1 cartoons and Marvel comics - simple
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I love AICN talkbacks.
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Jun 03, 2005 4:12:33 AM CDT
Argghhh, damned spoilerific reviews!!! A little warning!!
by big_bubbaloola
Sounds good though....ticks all my boxes. As for SW:ROTS, well...i'm a long time SW fan....went in with a very open mind and all I can say is I thought it was....meh! Yep..just meh!! Goods effects but old Georgie boy canny write for shit!!
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sorry, that was a little hard to read, I'm just fucking angry about this. Don Murphy made so many promises to the fanbase that seem to have been thrown out the window since Bay was linked. This whole film is suddenly sounding so wrong.
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first of all,kudos to the rabbi!Awesome work dude!And to Michael Braindead,lost his touch post badboys 1,so if anyones out there is hoping for anything good to come from him should get sodomized by the rabbi!As for Transformers....blah blah blah,wish the studio fuckos/sellouts at hollywood start paying good money to writers to spin out some original ideas instead of re-re-re-redoing every fucking thing that was.Kudos to Nolan on his take on the BAT.saw the movie last night and it rocked.Good story,good acting all around well made.Now i'll sip my martini and wait for the mind fuck FF4 gonna give me.
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Jun 03, 2005 4:26:21 AM CDT
We can take a piece of liver from a donor and leave them alive e
by shan
Even today, we can take half of a liver from a donor, put it into a donor and they both survive - well most of the time. Also, if you don't know how to spell someone's name, in the time it takes to write that you don't know how to spell it, you can look it up - remember www.imdb.com is your friend!
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The Island sounds a hell of a lot like Logan's Run to me. I might see it, I might not. I'm a bit "meh" about the Transformers movie but I'll probably see it for the nostalgia. Not even getting into the ROTS thing! That potato is just too hot.
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http://www.blogtelevision.net/p/Watch-Video-2CV-commercial___1,2,,32966.html
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Did you know that if you leave a Liver out on the kitchen floor and a saucer of milk a few feet away, the following morning the liver will have moved closer. FACT.
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Did you know that if you leave a liver out on the kitchen floor a few feet away from a saucer of milk, the following morning the liver will have moved closer.
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... after you have half a liver transplanted into you, or half taken out, that half remaining will grow back to full size in a number of weeks. Amazing powers of regeneration, that organ - which gives you an idea of how much of a poison alcohol is in being able to kill off the liver even in spite of its powers of regeneration.
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Bad acting, no script (who many I Love you, no I Love you more's can you take? Fess up - your cinema was sniggering at how bad it was as well, yes? Oh - and how many times can Kenobia accidentally walk in on baddies with 'plot' points?
SO, IMO, if he is saying Sith is good, I have no benchmark for his qualification as an arbiter of even half decent films.
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Has anyone noticed that this movie is nearly an identical remake of the film "Parts: The Clonus Horror". I saw it on MST3K a really long time ago. I haven't noticed any mention of this in previous talkbacks.
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They can change any other voice in the entire line-up, and I won't care at all. But Optimus Prime's voice was the SOUL of that show. Without that voice, there is no Transformers for me. I've tried the new cartoons, but they don't have the heart of the old show, mostly because of the lack of the Optimus voice. I'm not interested in this film without it.
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A book called 'spares' By michael marshall smith AKA Michael marshall who wrote 'The straw man' but his sci fi is way better than that . Transformers sounds bad , i bet it turns out like Thunderbirds- some kid and his robot friend will have to rescue the other transformers from the decepticons . woo ...
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Not sure how to interpret his taste.
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And the "dreams of drowning" means that we can add The Truman Show to the list of movies The Island was cloned from (Coma, Logan's Run, The Clonus Horror, Capricorn One, The Lottery, etc.).
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And I really wanted to be the one who brought up that this sounds much like "Parts: the Clonus Horror", one of my favorite MST3K episodes... "Tonight... on... biography... "
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There is no other, I can give or take any of the other voice cast, but there is no changing Peter Cullen! And when did studios get so f-ing concerned with celebrity voices, does the chance to HEAR your favorite celebrity really make any kind of difference at the box office? Seriously, George Clooney as Optimus? Michael Bay didn't wait too long to come out on this film as the tool he is. For Christ's sake.
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I am a long time transformers fan and love your site. However, once Peter Cullen was no longer doing Prime's voice I never watched another episode. I love all the old episodes and the movie. I remember going to the theater and seeing the movie and being disappointed when I first heard Judd Nelson's voice has Hot Rod. Even at 10 I thought it was crazy to bring in celebrity voices. However, once Optimus came onto screen I was relieved and I got goose bumps once I heard Peter's voice. When I first heard that there was a life action movie being made I got really excited. I also think Michael Bay will do a great job. I was dreaming of the day when I frist see the new trailer and here Prime say "Autobots Tramsform." Hell Dreamworks doesnt have to show any part of the movie, just a black screen and Peter saying "Autobots Transform", and then coming soon. I will send them my 10.00 the same day. However, I have heard that Michael Bay does not want any of the original cast, no one. I also heard some crap about George Clooney doing Prime. Tell you the truth I dont care about any other voice from the original cast. But you have to keep Prime. This isnt a Welling for Superman or some other fanboy request. Peter Cullen is OPTIMUS PRIME. He is who we all remember. The fans all associate his voice with Prime. Just the voice alone could excite many transformers fans. If you have any pull, any at all, we have to keep Prime. Look at all the campaigns for Enterprise, Angel, and many others. We have to get things started now. Guys this is a huge movie. A fanboy's dream. Dreamworks is shelling out a lot of money. The production value is going to be huge!!!! If Peter Cullen is not going to be Prime I will not see this movie. NEVER!!!
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"People" who abuse "quotation marks" really annoy me. Especially when "they" don't even seem to understand the "point" of putting things in "quotation marks" in the first "place". It makes me want to "harvest their organs".
I'm also not sure why the clones in the facility would "wear the foods you eat". Does he just mean pelts\skins, or are we talking meatloaf jogging suits? Because I have a jacket and a pair of shoes that are both made out of "the foods you eat." -
Jun 03, 2005 7:58:37 AM CDT
Ummm...Wasn't The Transformers a goddamned cartoon back in t
by cutest_of_borg
Who gives a shit?
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Why should anyone care about any adaptation then? Especially comic book movies.
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michael bay is right. there needs to be a fresh approach. lots of camera panning, zany comic relief, and a plot that doesn't involve me having to pay attention in increments greater than five seconds.
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Hollywood has always been desperate to adapt anything that could potentially make them some quick cash, and 9 times out of 10, I would say they fuck it up. Yeah? So why care anymore, since they're gonna do things their way anyhow? Why get worked up about who's voicing Optimus Prime? Sure it was a great show, and it's exciting that their making a movie, but ultimately, it's a story about cars and planes from outer space that turn into robots... pretty ridiculous concept... what's gonna draw in more new fans? Authenticity, or George Clooney's throaty rasp? I actually think he'd be great. And either way, who the fuck cares? It's Michael Bay. All you need to know is that things will blow up.
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Welker: Megatron - Cullen:Prime!
Why not?
Too bad that Chris Latta has passed, or we'd have ol' Starscream back, too.
Why not at least TRY and stick with some of the more iconic voices. Okay, so what if Justin Timberlake is the voice of Cliffjumper? Throw in some awful cameos, if it will sell some tickets, but try and keep the main characters as traditional as possible. -
Jun 03, 2005 9:12:17 AM CDT
While Clooney could do a good Cullen impersonation, it doesn'
by terry_1978
Especially since Peter Cullen and Frank Welker are alive and still employed in the craft. They'd have no problem reprising their roles. And didn't Murphy say he wanted the originals back anyway?
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Crap! He's going to take my favorite half hour toy commercial that I haven't watched for 20 years and make it really shitty! My life as I know it is sure to be over. Instead of walking outside and looking for a woman who will give me the time of day, I'm going to spend the next 2 years complaining on the Internet about how bad this is going to be without having read a single word off the script or having seen a single second of footage from the film.
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If Bay wants to use different voices than those from the commercia...err, I mean cartoons, it's hardly sacrilige.
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How can anyone ever take anything on this site seriously if not ONE review is EVER written well or even contains proper spelling? Please!!!!
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Jun 03, 2005 9:51:00 AM CDT
"Not including the two necessary key voice talents - it's no
by god's brother
Right. Because the original title of the show was "Optimus Prime's Voice".
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Jun 03, 2005 9:51:41 AM CDT
A much anticipated movie being fucked up? Big SURPRISE!!!
by ironthorman
Look we haven't had the perfect adaptation of basically any of my favorite characters/stories, from comics, cartoons, video games, whatever. I suppose there are a few exceptions, that have come close, But I'm not surprised that yet another beloved property will be made into a film, that I see but am disappointed in. And by the way, whats with the constant attack on SW:ROTS. The movie had me an emotional wreck. It was so easy to look past the flaws with all the great parts.
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"We need your liver to keep your clone alive!" RIP MST3K. Anyway, this sounds like another movie with a high concept sci-fi premise used as an excuse for one big chase scene. As for Transformers, it might have worked if they did it ten years ago when they might have still used conventional effects but I bet you when the CGI Transformers transform, it's going to look too fluid, like a morphing. We'll see. And enough with the Star Wars slagging in every TalkBack, it's getting sad.
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this movie could be an awesome 80's period piece - shot like ET with that realistic 80's suburbia look. Long hair, jean jackets, giant mac trucks leaping into the air and pulling out a gun to defend people. Even though they came from Japan, Prime was always a cool symbol of blue colar america. They should have exhaust and dirty and lookg like real cars with some dings and stuff. of course it will look like the fast and the furious instead. The biggest problem wiht live action is scale - how do you get megatron and some of the otehr scale shifting robots to work as well.
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Jun 03, 2005 10:08:03 AM CDT
Fresh Approach = taking something great and figuring out how to
by right bastard
Transforms is a classic. It was one of the few cartoons made specifically to sell toys, while at the same time providing an entertaining an enjoyable story. It was actually quite an engaging show. Thanks, Bay, for turning another great thing from my youth into a suckfest.
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Jun 03, 2005 10:08:12 AM CDT
Right. Because the original title of the show was "Optimus Prime
by fried gold
No, it was called Transformers. Keep up.
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Jun 03, 2005 10:11:55 AM CDT
"Harry Please save my movie" are you fucking kidding me!
by akira'scrow
As if Harry has any, i mean any pull in Hollywood or the film industry. He runs a fucking fan/geek site, and poorly half the time. Transformers is a bad idea as a live action movie. Bay is a bad idea no matter what. I wouldn't give him a Wheat-Thins comercial. If you have to make a movie of a beloved cartoon like this, make it CG. Otherwise, no matter how many cool robots or set pieces, it's still going to end up like Scooby-Do or The Flintstones. And as far as this argument over the voices of the characters, grow up.
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Jun 03, 2005 10:15:52 AM CDT
Fucking celebrity voice fad. Didn't Shark Tale and Robots pr
by big bad clone
Oh, and Bay shouldn't give clones a bad name, that's my job.
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good one.
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I can't tell if I'm excited for "The Island," or just indifferent. Michael Bay's movies generally make me gag, so I think I'm indifferent. But I can't honestly say I'm indifferent to Scarlett Johansson, despite her meteoric rise from indie to mainstream, so if I see this film, it'll be in large part because of her. As far as the "Transformers" movie, I hope they add new voices, new plots, new characters, new robotic sex scenes, anything to replace the braindead silliness of the 1980s cartoon. Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzmann, two of the best writers on "Alias" and "Lost," are writing the screenplay, so maybe there's hope.
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......the fact that you missed the glowering sarcasm in God's Brother's post, or the fact that you then proceeded to exhibit this by trying to correct an originally sarcastic blas
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Skurge2005, you're a white person, right? All right. You wrote, "Normally I wouldn't say "urban" but I don't want to upset the niggers." Making this statement is fine if you're joking around, a la Dave Chappelle, but in my opinion you need to make it resonate less seriously. If you think it necessary, instead of writing "niggers," write "niggaz" or something a bit less serious, more slapstick hip-hop. On a talkback like this, you don't want to incite a racial argument. That said, though, I'm not down with the new "Honeymooners" either.
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Plant?
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I hope they remain true to the spirit that Starscream was a flamer...and what did Soundwave do with all those little transformers inside of him...yeah I'm thinking he was a robopedafile..? Personally I think Joel Schumaker (spelling) should direct it...Can you imagine nipples on Optimus Prime!!!!
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The Parts: The Clonus horror connections has been mentioned before and it is dead on. It's fitting Bay doing a MST3K film remake. The Island will suck, and not make much money. Transformers will make money because of the name but it will be horrible (sadly). I predict a Resident Evil movie reaction: Dorks will convince themselves it wasn't horrible for a while, defending it as a "popcorn movie" in ways that suggest popcorn movies shouldn't be good, start to admit it kinda sucks but "it hadda cool couple parts," buy the DVD and add money to the crapmakers accounts (but never watch it more than once), then finally, a year after DVD release agree all along with all the others trashing it.
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I really can't believe there are SW fans who actually liked this piece of derivative shit. The opening space "battle" was so boring and incomprehensible!! Lucas changed the voices of Nute Gunray and the other trade rep, bowing to PC pressure. How can fans accept the fact that Lucas completely changed the character of Obi Wan? You're telling me this is the same guy we see 20 years later in A New Hope? Gimme a break. Hayden wasn't bad considering the crap dialogue and forced situations. His conversion to the dark side was so unbelievable. You simply cannot give such a detailed backstory to a villain like Vader. It simply does not work. The mystery of Vader is where his power lies, which is why Jedi sucked. Why can;t fanboys see this shit for what it is, Lucas making a buck and making some more toys?
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Fans will not accept a Transformer film if the original voices, especially Peter Cullen, are not involved.
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Aren't most prequels by nature predictable?
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Jun 03, 2005 12:05:40 PM CDT
R.C.'s opinion: Clooney, Sutherland, or Hanks as Optimus Pr
by r.c. the "wise"
If your going to use a celebrity to V.O. prime, it MUST be one of those three. Clooney is a terrific choice.
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makes us africans proud
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I care that Bay couldn't direct traffic, much less a movie. Besides, Hong Kong Fooey is dead, so there's no Jazz. I now think of optimous prime as "that voice on car commercials". If they keep any voices, then they need Soundwave and Starscream/Cobra Commander.
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Now I know who dies.
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Jun 03, 2005 12:33:54 PM CDT
Sam Elliott for Optimus and Frank Langella for Megatron.
by declan_swartz
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Seriously, either that or he failed 6th grade. Could somebody edit these things before they get posted?
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Cullen is Transformers. Dont shit on your franchise.
Dont even try and give me the excuse that Cullen is charging too much. Dont even try and tell me its an artistic decision.
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BTW, Don Murphy is denying all of this on his forum and says AICN is full of sh*t, so this really doesn't matter.
At the last BotCon in Los Angeles, 500+ fans waited hours to see Peter Cullen talk and close to thousand waited in line for his autograph. When Peter came out, the cheering and applause was deafening.
The level of devotion to Peter Cullen and Frank Welker by TF fans is at a Firefly fanatic level. Yes, I realize you morons on AICN hate the Firefly fans too. But that's what I'd compare it to.
To most of you, TF was some stupid toy you played with as kids. But to fans, it's about the characters and that means the voice actors. Fans have so much respect and love for Peter especially, since he's come to conventions and is such a humble and gracious guy.
Peter Cullen is not some Hollywood actor. Yes, he's done a lot of voice over work. He's made all of our childhood's better by doing some great voices (Prime, Venger in D&D, many voices in Voltron including the announcer saying "Voltron, Defender of the Universe" and more recently Eeyore in Winnie the Pooh).
But if you meet Peter, he's just a very humble guy who has a ranch east of Los Angeles and always wears a cowboy hat and can't figure out why all of us think he's our hero.
Does it really matter if Prime is played by Peter or some celebrity? If Justin Timberlake plays Prime, would teenage girls go see Transformers? God no. But the least Bay can do is show some respect to TF fans and the G1, classic cartoon and have the original voice actors reprise their roles.
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Jun 03, 2005 1:14:06 PM CDT
Aslong as they keep StarScream a shrieking coniving Cobra Comman
by industrykiller
Oh Starscream you loveable headcase you. Theya bsoultely must keep that voice or find soemthign similar, it being the same guy who voiced Cobra Commander and all. Oh and btw if you think Retrun of the Sith was a good film you are a pathetic excuse for a Star Wars fan. I'm so sick of hearing it was good. But then again these are probably the same people who think the Fantastic Four trailers look good.
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That's just crazy. See all the work he's done on IMDB!
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Jun 03, 2005 1:29:23 PM CDT
TOM CULLEN as Optimus Prime. Y'know, Bill Fagerbakke from "C
by chickychow
M O O N - That spells Budweiser commercial-styled visuals with Cars turning into Robots... Wait a second... That sounds totally fuckin retarded! Anybody else think this movie will be utterly absurd?
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Ok, now that you have divulged your plan to harvest my organs, (I'll assume it is me you are refering to as you follow up with a comment on wearing food) would you please enlighten us all as to the proper use of quotation marks. I am lead to believe that they are used to enclose direct quotations. Mine was a direct quotation from the review. Whilst quotation marks should not be used to mark slang or justify an attempt at humour, I feel my direct quotation is the correct use. Am I wrong??
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Chris Latta, who voiced Starscream and Cobra Commander in GI Joe, died of a drug overdose in 1994.
Several other TF voice artists have also passed on: Scatman Crothers who played Blaster, Don Messick (Gears & Ratchet), and Edmund Gilbert (several misc TF characters, best known as Hawk in GI Joe). So there are some characters that could be replaced by celebrity voices without fans getting too upset (just as long as Gilbert Gottfried doesn't play Starscream) -
Jun 03, 2005 1:46:58 PM CDT
What Bay needs to do is hire Ted Schwartz as Tailgate and Greg B
by lilogre
I could take or leave Cullen but those two are dealbreakers.
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Maybe everyone should post their feelings up on his official message board about not using the original voice actors. Trust me, I will not see Transformers if they do not use the voice actors, because like someone pointed out, it was the heart and soul of the orginal cartoon. And the only way to get things done is to let Bay know about it.
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first off, unless this is a recent addition, it clearly says spoiler for this article on the main page so stop whining. as for the transformers, gotta be a fanboy for a second and say that scatman crothers voiced Jazz and not Blaster. oh and clooney shouldn't voice Prime, he should be Ratchet because it makes more sense. and to the star wars people, take a pill and move on. some people loved it, some didnt and that's all there is to it. getting your panties in a wad because others didn't share your opinion of the movie is pretty darn sad kids.
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Creating a movie or television show that really resonates is rare. The Transformers cartoon did, and if they are going to adapt it for live action, they had better use as many elements as they can from the original show. It should be Generation 1, that is a no-brainer. Optimus Prime should be voiced by Peter Cullen, and Megatron and Soundwave should be voiced by Frank Welker. Celebrity voices are not a path to box office gold. How many examples do producers need before they realise this? I guarantee that no kid knows who Albert Brooks or Craig T. Nelson are, but that sure didn't hurt Finding Nemo's or The Incredibles box office. Good Lord, it's like I'm playing cards with my brothers kids.
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as much as i loved the transformers, i was never stupid enough to believe any of the actors from the show would be involved. i've known since the 80's that if a live action movie were ever made, they'd use other people. sure it would be nice and even better to use some or all of them but thats very, very unlikely. but either way i dont care, if the movie looks good then i'll see it. not having the original voices didnt stop me from seeing the ninja turtles. i just wanna thank some of you for making me feel better about myself though. just when i think i'm overly obsessed with a show or movie, i see posts here that make me seem like a god of normality in comparaison. :)
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Yes, they are marketing to mainstream America, but pissing off the loyal fan base will kill this project. If Cullen and Welker don't voice OP and Megatron, respectively, I'll badmouth this project until its released. Sure, I'm just one guy, but if all of fandom did this, the message will be heard.
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I loved the eighties, it was a great time to grow up. But any time that I defend the decade as not being brainless, all anyone has to do to make me shut my mouth is to bring up the Transformers. As a kid, I watched my share of stupid shit, and thought that it was the coolest thing ever, but as I matured and realized that it was really dumb, I just let it go. I even look back on some of it fondly, but that doesn't mean that it should be revisited in the form of a big budget crapstravaganza. It doesn't matter if George Clooney or Sissy Spacek does the voice of Optimus Prime, it's one of the stupidest ideas ever to come down the pike. As far as the poor spelling of the reviewer goes, I can see having a couple of mistakes, but when it's so bad that the reader has to reread everything to figure out what the hell the writer is attempting to convey then it simply shouldn't be posted, or it should be fixed prior to being posted.
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That's a damn shame. The guy who does his voice on Robochicken is a pretty good replacement.
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I happen to be a huge transformers fan... hell I have tattoos of the things, a pretty big collection of the toys... its one of my favorite things in the world. However, crying because they arent going to use the voices from the original cartoons? Thats pretty stupid.
yes peter cullen has an awesome voice, but besides the kids that know who he is, the rest of the world will care less. As long as its someone good, Im happy. Though I dont think this movie will be very good.
Will you not happy unless they revive the dead body of Scatman Corruthers to do Jazz?
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If Peter Cullen doesnt voice Prime I will never (pay to) watch the movie. Fuck you Bay.
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roger me! wilco me! anything, hello hello earth!
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you heard me, i said, "hmmm".
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Im sure that sooner or later some retard is going to say they wont go see it unless stan bush does the soundtrack...
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WOW, you're a brave one to admit that. I would think that any self-respecting tattoo artist would have kicked your ass before they would actually brand you with the Transformers. Do they change into trucks and airplanes and stuff? If they do, then they're cool.
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Transform, and roll out, Brother!
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Hulk Hogan would sound ten times better than George Clooney as Prime.
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stop giving will smith roles
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can anyone really put a lot of faith into someone who mispells words and doesn't use grammar correctly? and it's not just once, i don't think he even knows how to spell half the words in the english language. i still think the movie is gonna be awesome and anybody who says so is an elitist "oh it's just a michael bay movie" asshole.......good day
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Sorry, I had to put in another two cents about all you Bay haters. The Rock was a damn fine film (to name just one of several), with a well written story and amazing acting (Ed Fucking Harris!!!). Oh shit did I just say that, how can this be? Am I delusional? Didn't Michael Bay direct it? I thought he only did car chases!! GASP!! I guess the only explanation for that is that he truly DOES have talent and that everybody who says he sucks just wishes they had taht kind of talent too.
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It is a distraction from the fantasy. It immediately takes you out of the film and is often times annoyingly cute. I don't want to think of Clooney when I hear Prime talk.
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Are the Autobots going to be anti-war pacifists with pet pigs?
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I could maybe get a job working for a telemarketing firm. Sweet! Aemageddon - sucks. Bad Boys - sucks. Pearl Harbor - sucks big sweaty balls. The Rock -saved by connery and harris but the directing sucks. I don't blame him completely, though. Where there's Bay, Suck-heimer is usually close behind.
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What is he going to be, an iPod? If so, he definitly can't get away with that bad ass voice. He'll have to be voiced by Harvey Fierstein. And I don't see a CD transforming into anything.
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I have a fever and the only cure is more COWBELL! Christopher Walken as MEGATRON!!!!!!!!!
GFY -
I love dorks with their silly boycotts.
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gotta agree with doc strange hulk hogan is optimus prime.
will smiths next film should be what the public is crying out for wild wild west 2 his best unmade fucking film -
...it HAS to have at least one scene with a Ballchinean. That was the funniest part of the last one.
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...and I'd rather have the original voices than celebrity voices.
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on MST3K when it was called "Parts: The Clonus Horror". Unless this movie has Servo and Crow, I'm not going anywhere near it again.
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I obviously don't plan to watch that crap, but I think if the movie is about talking cars then it is pretty much the most perfect movie that could ever exist for Michael Bay to direct. He has the heart and soul of a car, so it will probaly be his most personal project ever. I have one question. Are they expensive cars. Also are they yellow. If so this is right up that fucker's culdesac.
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That made me laugh.
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but ..but ..
not as stupid as getting a transformers tatoo surely ? Sorry couldn't resist :0) -
Megatron, Soundwave, Lazerbeak, etc etc etc etc etc
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Just click on Cool News at the top of the screen. Don't know why they are disappearing from time to time at the main board. Peace.
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Men in Black always had great sequel potential, they just fucked it up. Make Men in Black 3, sure. Just don't give it to Barry fucking Sonnenfeld again.
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It's all new fuckers
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I've been a fan of the Transformers since G1 and Prime's voice should be the same. As for Megatron, David Key owns that role. He gives Megatron that sadistic edge that was always missing from G1. Even fan boys have to admit he made Beast Wars worth watching. Yessssss.
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Sith was entertaining.....not a great movie. I don't care what site has it listed as 3rd best, those sites are voted on by moronic fans who don't know any better. If you think Sith was "awesome" or "great" then you must really like that flavor of Kool-aide. Don't get me wrong, I liked the movie but it was severely flawed.
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Jun 04, 2005 5:08:55 PM CDT
"THE ISLAND" is nothing more than the tremake of the 1978 TV Mov
by redbeard_nv
It starred Keenan Wynn, Peter Graves & Dick Sargent and was about an isolated retreat where clones of V.I.P.s, politicians and millionaireslived out their lives until they were sent to "America", or to be exact, harvested for their organs for their originals who became sick. This is so freaking un-original a rip off as to make me gag. Run a Google or IMDb search on it!
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Under his supurb direction, michael bay will make one of the greatest films ever!!
Lmao... that'll happen when there is snowflakes in HELL!! -
"meh"
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I rather liked Maddox's review of what he called "A steaming pile of Sith"
People really need to stop comparing todays movies to the movies of decades ago as far as numbers of people watching and gross take of monies.
We have 6 billion people on the planet right now. We only had 2 billion 60 years ago. There are so many more consumers being targeted now than in the 70's.
This is also why I'm not impressed with a bang getting a platinum album now compared to back then. It took some effort when only a few people would buy a couple albums a year. Now we have hordes of people scarfing up albums like candy in malls all over the world.
I'm looking forward to the Fantastic 4 movie. I know there are going to be aspects of it I will think could have been done better. Everyb ody has their own opinion on that in every movie. I wanted Chris Benoit from WWE to play Woverine and I didn't get that. I'm still going to enjoy seeing something I loved growing up brought to life on the big screen. I mean, good gravy, they could have given the Hulk somebody real to fight other than a dog or two.
Since Marvel is building its universe within the movie industry, maybe they can do another Hulk movie where the government calls on The Thing to come help them contain the Hulk. Then we could see a classic Marvel battle.
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I use dee force and claim jihad on all transformer!!!
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Uhmmmm.... are you dumb? Why would he be an Ipod? You can still buy boom boxes w/ tape decks and everything. Why (other than as product placement) would they change that?
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Hans Zimmer had said something about "one of his best scores" about some of the previous movies he worked on. I am glad that his talent is increasing from movie to movie. But I can't understand wy does he need to put the same theme (however slightly altered) in EVERY SINGLE score he produces or writes.
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(as posted on themovieblog)
I want to see a MIB III, I want to see a MIB III, I want to see a MIB III.
Good to hear fairly recent news that it's still in the development stages.
Here's one fan's opinion how to do it. Posted to the MIB II forum on imdb.
Keep the romance going between agent J and Laura (that means Rosario Dawson comes back and top billed w/Smith and Jones). I started writing such a story that can be found on the mibfanfiction group on Yahoo, and on fanfiction.net. I may register and submit a treatment but even if the idea gets "stolen", I just want the ball to get rolling on a sequel. I disagree with many detractors that there is no chemistry between Will Smith/Rosario Dawson. Hitch proved that Smith can be romantic and funny and I'm sure there are other examples.
- Make MIB III a little more serious in tone (less slapstick, more straight drama with some comic relief) and up the romance (I want a steamy love scene with Jay/Laura), up the weird metaphysical "wonder" and "awe" factor, up the tension, up the level of dialogue.
- Elevate this movie to the level of a Lord of the Rings or SW, in terms of developing major, deep fantasy backstory that is hinted at little by little. My idea, as posted, makes Agent J an alien with a royal bloodline from Laura's planet.
- Get Gina Torres as a supporting cast member. In my story she's Agent J's mother and the queen of Zartha.
- Do not let Sonnenfeld direct. He seems too slapstick and comedy oriented and the tone of these films need to grow up a little bit. I would like to see a Cameron or Spielberg protege direct. I would even like to see Tommy Lee Jones or even Will Smith himself direct. (These ideas may sound stupid but I'm just a fan. I only go to about 2-3 movies a year max and catch the rest as they come out on cable or DVD.)
- Have a "dream team" committee to write the story and get an "executive editor' to pull it all together. I am not a writer, just a fan.
Get a noted SF author (Octavia Butler, Orson Scott Card, etc.,) to team with Lowell Cunningham and a noted romance author (Nora Roberts?) to write the script. Base it on the previous 2 MIB's but evolve it and give it depth. Don't be afraid to be serious! Assume the audience is intelligent and geeky! A deep script is good! Gravitas is good! Gravitas will get Jones interested as he likes serious stuff, as he just won in Cannes for his own film.
Rosario Dawson is slowly moving towards being a great actress, she needs to stop being cast as eye candy/sex symbol so damn much. That's Halle Berry's problem (to me).
MIB III can easily solidify Dawson as the next Halle Berry and even better, if it's done right. Few women of color are big in sci-fi with the exception of Torres.
In writing my story, I noticed the critics roundly panned MIB II. Well, MIB can be resurrected and become a sci-fi franchise worthy of Star Wars or at least the Star Trek movies - if they write it right and surround Smith/Jones/Dawson with A-list support.
They need to shoot for Oscars on this one, to make up for the disappointment of MIB II. Quality, quality, quality.
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