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Geek Reviews from Japan Premiere & Brazil Press Screening of BATMAN BEGINS - hold on to your drawers, this is the one!!
SPOILER ALERT !!
Hey folks, Harry here... Last night... or actually tomorrow night in Japan (international dateline) was the "world Premiere" of BATMAN BEGINS and ol Sanjuro was there for us! However, if you want to see what it was like to be in the audience watching the crew of BATMAN BEGINS present the film to their first audience.... Click Here - (thanks to Steve from Belgium for that link!) - there's some of the new BATMAN BEGINS music over some of it, plus all the introductions and actor and talent greetings to the Japanese audience!!! Very cool. I see this Monday and couldn't be more jazzed. Moriarty, cur that he is, sees it today! Fuckhead!
Hey Harry,
First-time reviewer here, just got back from the world premiere of Batman Begins in Tokyo
and it was AWESOME!!! The flatout verdict for this film is: MAGNIFICENT!
Basically, here's to Nolan and his crew - mission successful: franchise restart accomplished, sequels will be greenlit immediately (or at least they better be). I'm a Japanese guy studying film in the States and I'm one of those douchebags that will say Batman can kick Superman's ass with an array of kryptonite tools, sure Bats will die of radiation but not before killing Supes, right?
Anyway a quick premiere report before I get into the film. As usual, the red carpet brought in the token Japanese celebs first before the near-entire cast came including Bale, Neeson, Freeman, Holmes, Watanabe, with Nolan and his wife/producer Emma Thomas, and other producer Charles Roven. There was a surprise random appearance by Gerard Butler, who was in town promoting "Dear Frankie." The problem was nobody knew he was gonna be there and he started getting pissed off pretty quickly as everyone kept on giving him Batman flyers for autographs - duh, it is a batman premiere after all - and dude we didn't know you were comin'. Anyway, same old publicity deal: Neeson gave words of gratitude in Japanese, Katie felt honored and thanked us, Bale said it was futile to judge the movie before we had seen it so he decided to let the work speak for itself, also saying something along the lines of "Your excitement's catching up with me and now I'm getting an adrenalin rush, this time it's a completely different Batman that you've never seen before. For such a cultural and mythological icon, this is THE realistic version of Batman. So I hope you enjoy it!" Freeman quipped "Talk to this man, if you don't like it," pointing to Nolan, "if you do like it tell your friends." And finally, Watanabe felt honored representing Japan in Hollywood (GO KEN GO!)
Anyway, onto the film. The film starts off with a Marvel-rivaling DC Comics logo and it kicks ass. Followed by THE fall into the cave where Bruce Wayne (Christian Bale) wakes up (it was a nightmare), in a Chinese prison. Henri Ducard (Liam Neeson) representing Ra's Al-Ghul's (Ken Watanabe) League of Shadows finds him at the prison, recruits and trains him. Soon, Wayne leaves in an explosive exit and returns to Gotham, cracking down on crime, one step at a time.
As a Batman fan, I was very much satisfied as this successfully covers everything of his origin and character; as Bruce Wayne, there is the idealist and then there is the playboy, and Batman. It also gives definitive explanations into the gadgetry involved and sweeps you into the Batman universe. It had the obligatory "I'm BATMAN" scene (his introduction, in fact), which was marvelous. There were certain moments that reminded me of the first Batman movie, such as the antagonist spraying gas over the city and there was a fantastic sequel set-up for the Joker's entry into the franchise, which personally I cannot wait. Nolan MUST do the trilogy that he and Goyer have envisioned and I just hope they continue to cast acting greats as the bad guys.
As a Batman movie, all the right elements were there, the aforementioned obligatory line, the quips, even the obligatory kid idolization scene wasn't too mushy. When you think of such a dark character, you don't think of him as a kid's hero but in the scene where the boy looks up to him, it works because he is living in such a shithole that anybody that decides to clean up is a hero in his eyes, regardless of freaky costume.
Another great thing was how the villain did not steal the show it is, as stated by the makers, Wayne's show with Batman as a strong secondary character. The bumpy part with a sequel would be continuing this balance of having a strong Wayne-driven narrative but with a Batman ass-kicking every time crime had to be punished. Other do's and don'ts for the sequel would be definitely to bring a solid Joker, a scene with Lucius Fox (Morgan Freeman) introducing the Batwing - haha - and certain Scarecrow related items could come in handy for Joker (laughter/death instead of fear/death, perhaps)?
Nolan's true auteurism is apparent even in a comic book genre pic such as this. His trademark playing with the flashback, non-linear narrative works well when confronting Wayne's fall into the cave. The music sounded great with Zimmer's action pieces nicely complimenting Newton Howard's more psychological tones, although personally I'll have to go again to appreciate it fully (as well as buying the soundtrack, of course). The performances were stellar - Bale is THE definitive Batman, even though he sounds a little like a more hoarse version of Alec Baldwin as Batman, it is to good effect and the scene where he interrogates Scarecrow (Cillian Murphy), and even more so with Detective Flass, really captures the intimidating, feral nature of Batman from the comics. The two definitive identities clearly felt like the same person this time round, in past movies Wayne never came out clearly in Batman and vice versa. The big stuff about the movie, the action and the car chases are all top notch but the smaller nuanced performances from Freeman and Oldman are superb. Oldman is MONEY - many funny quips belong to Gordon and I hope they give him an even meatier role for the sequel. Tom Wilkinson as mob boss Falcone was solid and you gotta hand it to Michael Caine. In this movie, you finally feel the love between "father and son" and not that sugary crap they forced down our throats with "Batman & Robin." Gotham actually feels like a city, alive with people and an atmosphere even though it has succumbed to corruption. Combining the downtown areas featuring Wayne Tower (and monorail) with surrounding shanty towns, one can actually live at the Nolan-NY Gotham rather than the Burton-Gothic Gotham or Schumacher-Versace Gotham. Nitpicking flaws, I'll have to save for the second time I watch this. The only thing I can think of is maybe some of the action scenes (non-car related) had quick editing but then again I wasn't in the best of seats.
As a moviegoer, this is truly a summer spectacle rivaling Star Wars, which doesn't come out here until JULYYYYYYYY! (patience, yeah I know). The Japanese audience loved it although I'm sure many were disappointed with Watanabe's screen time as was I but he definitely played the pivotal role convincingly and enigmatically.
If Batman was like a mozzarella garlic bread, looks nice but tastes bland, then Batman Begins looks and tastes like a juicy steak from heaven filling your entire palate with deliciousness. It's gonna be the standard for Batman movies (and comic book movies) for years to come. I don't think they'll want to tinker with the origin ever again until Warner Bros feels the need to restart the franchise after they give Paul W. S. Anderson, Batman Beyond.
If you post this, I'm Sanjuro Kuwabatake.
And now... if you breathe... here's the Pope from Brazil with his look at BATMAN BEGINS!
Harry, I am a long time reader from Brazil.
Just left a special press screaning of Batman Begins and was blown away. I was almost crying in utter joy. This is everything we could ever hope for and maybe even more.
What makes this pic so mesmerizing is its epic scope. Unlike other super-hero movies (including spider-man) this is a dense and profound movie. It makes the spidey flicks soppy sentimentalism look like preppy garbage. Nolan's analysis of the Dark Knight's trajectory carries an emotional punch unlike any we have seen in blockbusters before. Unlike Hulk, it is however enjoyable and interesting. Despite not having Batman showing up for the first hour, the pic does not loose its pace.
Batman's origin is explained in a very interesting manner. The audience is absorbed by his fears and nightmares, ultimately sympathising with the character, and further enhancing the humanity of the tale. The theme of FEAR is prevalent throughout the movie. We all have fears, and fear is one thing we cannot control. Dealing with innate fears is what creates Batman's identity, but also threatens to destroy the city he has swore to save. It is a complex approach that leads to an overall well rounded movie where all loose ends and plot-lines are superbly connected around one simple premise.
Nolan's realistic approach is note perfect. Keep in mind, it is not as grounded in the real world as say "Batman Year One", but Nolan's and Goyers addition to the story add several layers that transform a by-the-numbers story into an epic tale that takes the audience back and forth from shady Gotham to the astounding hills of Iceland (Butan in the movie). We have astounding explosions, ninjas, preechy moralising.... but it all rises above any cliche we have ever had to endure, and becomes enjoyable.
The actors are all TOP NOTCH. Christian Bale IS Batman. He was born for this role. He is both sympathetic and dangerous. His gruff Batman voice is scary, and you can see his controlled anger in his eyes. Bruce Wayne is also the best yet. He is portrayed as a stupid billionaire that gets drunk and burns down his house. This emphasises the dualisty of Bruce/Batman persona and enhaces the dynamics of his realtionship with Rachel. Michael Caine carries the emotional part of the story. He is a father and partner to Bruce. Their loving relationship is depicted perfectly and brought tears to my eyes. Alfred has a much larger and more meaninful part than in the other movies. He is just not there for comic relief, despite having many excellent one-liners. Katie Holmes is also pretty good. She does what she can with the role and makes it truly sympathetic. We cheer for them to hook up. Morgan Freeman is spectacular as always as are the other good guys supporting actors.
SPOILERS
Now, to the bad guys. Liam Neeson is the ultimate Batman villain. He brings a level of reassunce to the role that we understand his motives despite acknowledging the horror behind them. He has a remarkable screen presence. For the first time in a Batman movie, I was terrified and angry at the villain and rooted for Batman to kick the shit out of him. Liam is such a bad ass. He IS RAS AL GHUL. Could not have been any better. I have never seen Liam bring such gravitas to any other movie he is in. Congrats to Nolan for bringing out such a strong performance from an actor we usually know what to expect of.
Ken Watanabe does what he can in MINIMAL screen time. Still, some good sword fighting here and there.
The Scarecrow, Jonathan Crane is SCARY. The Scarecrow outfit will bring nightmares to kids... Wait until hell brakes loose in Gotham and everyone starts having hallucinations. Ultimate Bad trip.
GOTHAM CITY is amazing. Not as stylized as in the Burton movies, but comes truly alive in this movie. We can feel the claustrophobia of a city run by corrupt oficials and crooked cops. It is such a mess one trule admires Bruce's will to save it. It just seems impenetrable. The action scenes are bigger and better than spiderman. Everythings seems more real and tangible. We feel it alot more.
Batmans COSTUME is also perfect. I hated it from pics, but in the movie it works just fine. We always see him in shadows. There is a large segment where Bruce builds the costume from sketch which is a delight to any geek. Even the pointed ears are explained, they come from China.
There is just so much to say about this movie I feel I have not even scratched its surface. From the portrayal of the mob, to drug dealing, gangsters, corporate misdealings... there are sooo many layers to it. So many outstanding characters. They all have a soul. But this movie belongs to Batman. And this is how it should have always been. Are you ready to begin? This is an instant classic, I really believe that in an ideal world, it should be Oscar calibre.
The Pope.
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I'm suprised at some of the choices Nolan has made with this Batman movie. Flock of seagulls? American Idol? This is not your daddy's Batman.
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Great review. I was hoping Christina Aguilera would get a good part
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...piss moviemack off.
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Jun 02, 2005 4:35:36 PM CDT
Moviemack and his Batman Begins bashing crew are gonna look stup
by jon_snow
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Q: Is there a chance the track could bend? A: Not on your life, my Hindu friend.
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There sure are a lot of question marks in those reviews? Anyways, sounds like this will be the geek movie of the summer?
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Do you mean "Liam Neeson playing Ra's Al-Ghul"?
"There was a fantastic sequel set-up for the Joker's entry into the franchise".
Do you mean the idiotic card scene?
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Sorry I just had to put that in?
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Jun 02, 2005 5:01:19 PM CDT
We have astounding explosions, ninjas, preechy moralising....
by slugworth
That part got me so pumped up I punched my Mom in the face.
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Jun 02, 2005 5:02:21 PM CDT
For the first time in movie history, we have a Batman movie and
by manos
With two established stars hopefully making the roles their own, we could have an incredible Batman/Superman blockbuster team up.
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The reason the Batman films had to be relaunched is that they suffered the typical pitfalls of franchise films, every sequel had to be bigger, louder and introduce a new character. For some reason the third film is the one that makes or breaks the franchise in most cases. It is generally the third where the series begins to lapse into self parody (Superman III, Batman Forever, Lethal Weapon III, ROTJ) and forgets the elements that made the earlier films popular. The Matrix didn't even wait for the 3rd film before it started winking at itself. Marvel seems to be moving into that direction with the first Fantastic Four film, judging by the trailers. Blade fell apart quickly, X2 showed some disturbing signs, so far Spiderman seems to be immune. If No;an does indeed stay for three films, perhaps a foundation will be laid in place for a Bond style franchise rather than having to re-invent the wheel each time. With a more intimate starting place, this series will have time to build slowly. It sounds like we're off to a great start. Pay attention Marvel, your 3rd films in 2 series are coming up and I wanna see 10.
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What if these guys are right, and the film is great?
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Jun 02, 2005 5:18:52 PM CDT
Sounds GREAT! I cant wait til the sequel with Ashton Kutcher as
by sydbarretsmydad
Actually, this movie looks good. Im ready. Lets go.
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for 328 Batman reviews. And where the hell is Chicken George or whatever that guy's name was?
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I dub thee *Mr. Mediocre*
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I'm just answering the easily answerable percieved errors or inconsistencies you think you have. If you simply think it sucks then that's subjective, I can't argue with that.
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No, really... I Can't Wait... I have four hours to live. =( GO BATS!
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I dub thee *Mr. Mediocre*
Disclaimer: *not to be taken internaly* -
No, really... I Can't Wait... I have four hours to live. =( GO BATS!
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Carpenter's THE THING was better than the original. So was Scorsese's version of CAPE FEAR, IMO. THE MALTESE FALCON was actually the THIRD film adaptation of Hammett's novel. Having said that, I'm still not thrilled with THE WICKER MAN being remade, but done smart and done right, it COULD work. Given LaBute's less than charitable view of human nature, I think he can be trusted not to compromise the story too much.
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Jun 02, 2005 5:43:02 PM CDT
You guys seem to have forgotten that "Sisterhood of the Travelin
by mr. waturi
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Jun 02, 2005 5:44:27 PM CDT
I was at the comic shop today, buying comics, looking at the lam
by kintar0
when I started looking around at all the covers to various Batman titles. In comparison, the Batman Begins costume is completely and embarrassingly awful. Nolan's "realistic approach," huh? I don't know, maybe it's just me, but I like Batman because he's not realistic. Maybe that's why I like superheroes and comic books, because they aren't concerned with realism. And being so familiar with all the different incarnations of Batman, from mood to suit color/material to Batmobile, the visual interpretation of Batman, his gadgets and the Batmobile in Batman Begins sticks out like a sore fucking thumb. What the fuck, the ears are from China? I looked at the cover to Superman/Batman #20 by Ed McGuinness and you know what? If Batman in Batman Begins looked like that rather than how he looks in the film, I'd probably be able to overlook a lot of the fucking bullshit that's going to be in the movie. As a diehard Batman fan, one who's familiar with all the different versions in the comics, having read the leaked script and having seen all the trailers, pictures and tv spots, this Batman film just looks crap.
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Jun 02, 2005 5:46:06 PM CDT
I was at the comic shop today, buying comics, looking at the lam
by kintar0
when I started looking around at all the covers to various Batman titles. In comparison, the Batman Begins costume is completely and embarrassingly awful. Nolan's "realistic approach," huh? I don't know, maybe it's just me, but I like Batman because he's not realistic. Maybe that's why I like superheroes and comic books, because they aren't concerned with realism. And being so familiar with all the different incarnations of Batman, from mood to suit color/material to Batmobile, the visual interpretation of Batman, his gadgets and the Batmobile in Batman Begins sticks out like a sore fucking thumb. What the fuck, the ears are from China? I looked at the cover to Superman/Batman #20 by Ed McGuinness and you know what? If Batman in Batman Begins looked like that rather than how he looks in the film, I'd probably be able to overlook a lot of the fucking bullshit that's going to be in the movie. As a diehard Batman fan, one who's familiar with all the different versions in the comics, having read the leaked script and having seen all the trailers, pictures and tv spots, this Batman film just looks crap.
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Jun 02, 2005 5:47:17 PM CDT
I was at the comic shop today, buying comics, looking at the lam
by kintar0
when I started looking around at all the covers to various Batman titles. In comparison, the Batman Begins costume is completely and embarrassingly awful. Nolan's "realistic approach," huh? I don't know, maybe it's just me, but I like Batman because he's not realistic. Maybe that's why I like superheroes and comic books, because they aren't concerned with realism. And being so familiar with all the different incarnations of Batman, from mood to suit color/material to Batmobile, the visual interpretation of Batman, his gadgets and the Batmobile in Batman Begins sticks out like a sore fucking thumb. What the fuck, the ears are from China? I looked at the cover to Superman/Batman #20 by Ed McGuinness and you know what? If Batman in Batman Begins looked like that rather than how he looks in the film, I'd probably be able to overlook a lot of the fucking bullshit that's going to be in the movie. As a diehard Batman fan, one who's familiar with all the different versions in the comics, having read the leaked script and having seen all the trailers, pictures and tv spots, this Batman film just looks crap.
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Jun 02, 2005 5:56:35 PM CDT
But Mr. Miracle, what if, by some act of god, Batman Begins is a
by jon_snow
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At the top of this TB. Bravo, chaps.
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ah, I see... "working for Lucasfilm" vs. "arrested for pirating"... clearly I got my memory wires WAY crossed on that one...
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for leaving out the nipples.
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From Pauline Kael's 1968 essay/review collection "Kiss Kiss Bang Bang": "A Note on the Title: The words 'Kiss Kiss Bang Bang,' which I saw on an Italian movie poster, are perhaps the briefest statement imaginable of the basic appeal of movies. This appeal is what attracts us, and ultimately what makes us despair when we begin to understand how seldom movies are more than this."
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... They pretty much gotta get rid of some characters. Every new movie that comes out, more people want new X-men introduced. There's just not enough screen time or budget to go around. I say get rid of Storm. Apparently Halle's been a pain in the producers' asses since pre-production on X2. Toss her out, that'll teach her. Death No. 2: Jean Grey. She dies, she comes back, she dies, she comes back. Do what the comics never could and kill her off for good. Death No. 3: probably someone more minor like Pyro or Collossus. If not that, then either Prof x or Magneto.
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Obviously this film is "truly a summer spectacle rivaling Star Wars" and "This is everything we could ever hope for and maybe even more." personally I was surprised to hear that "Katie Holmes is also pretty good. She does what she can with the role and makes it truly sympathetic. We cheer for them to hook up." I thought the suit was terrible but apparently "Batmans COSTUME is also perfect. I hated it from pics, but in the movie it works just fine. We always see him in shadows." hope they didn't spend too much cash on it if no one actually see's it. So rest easy, all is well, even the general public is in good hands, I heard that "The audience is absorbed by his fears and nightmares, ultimately sympathising with the character, and further enhancing the humanity of the tale." Man, that sounds great! As for realism, while I've never actually accepted the concept of a man dressed as a bat being the only salvation for an honest to goodness city as "realistic". It would appear that Nolan and Goyer have made this scenario, ahem...plausible.
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Jun 02, 2005 6:14:29 PM CDT
Space is right...get Mark Pellington if they can't get Singe
by johnny smith
Pellington rocks my socks. He's good with characters, too.
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at the top of this TB. Bravo, chaps!
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now that would be, as Kelly LeBrock says in the epic masterpiece Weird Science, "A mind scramblah."
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"truly a summer spectacle rivaling Star Wars" and "This is everything we could ever hope for and maybe even more." personally I was surprised to hear that "Katie Holmes is also pretty good. She does what she can with the role and makes it truly sympathetic. We cheer for them to hook up." I thought the suit was terrible, but apparently "Batmans COSTUME is also perfect. I hated it from pics, but in the movie it works just fine. We always see him in shadows." hope they didn't spend too much cash on it if no one actually see's it. So rest easy, all is well, even the general public is in good hands, I heard that "The audience is absorbed by his fears and nightmares, ultimately sympathising with the character, and further enhancing the humanity of the tale." Man, that sounds great! As for realism, while I've never actually accepted the concept of a man dressed as a bat being the only salvation for an honest to goodness city as "realistic". It would appear that Nolan and Goyer have made this scenario, ahem...plausible.
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I've been a tad unsure about this because of Goyers involvement but I'm not worried any more after reading those. They don't smell like plants to me.
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Either that or you haven't been paying attention. Yeah, sure, of fucking course I'm "man" enough to admit Batman Begins is "great," only if it is indeed "great." I've said that often, just like moviemack, in all the other Batman Begins. And you don't see us demanding that you admit you could be wrong about how "great" it will supposedly be. I've never pretended that my opinion on Batman Begins is based on anything besides the leaked script and all the info we've received via the internet. So far, it looks sucky.
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he should direct.
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Jun 02, 2005 6:31:11 PM CDT
How long until people start suggesting actors for The Joker
by john-locke
You know it to be true.
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Jun 02, 2005 6:32:05 PM CDT
How long until people start suggesting actors for The Joker
by john-locke
You know it to be true.
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Jun 02, 2005 6:32:58 PM CDT
How long until people start suggesting actors for The Joker
by john-locke
You know it to be true
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Guys, this is not a plant. I am the talkbacker from Brazil. Just watched the movie today. It is indeed awesome. You WILL enjoy it. Some will have quarrels, yes... but is is undeniably enjoyable.
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you have to post on the same page as the reviews.
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I'll move all of the "lost" posts to their proper homes.
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Apparently some of us geeks in Philly get the chance to attend a screening of this on Saturday based on our attendance to a DC comics panel discussion. Not too shabby.
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Jun 02, 2005 6:44:48 PM CDT
Message to Warner Suits - not even a hint of little, green PIXY
by rhett butler
And we'll keep the faith! Can't wait for this movie!
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So in the trailers, Neeson looks like a good guy, helping Bale out. In reality hes a BAD guy? Is this right?
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And in the movie, yes, he is a bad guy.
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Gravitas! Neeson being the bad guy is the twist - hence the spoiler alert. Though anyone who got a look at the leaked Goyer script would know.
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Didn't think it was much of a spoiler anymore since Neeson was going around in interviews talking playing a villain.
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Jun 02, 2005 7:47:05 PM CDT
Batman Begins will easily make more money than Fantastic Four
by thirteen 13
Tim Burtons dark vision of Batman was very well made and very successful. Batman didn't flop until Joel Schumacher took over and turned it into an over colored teenage masturbation fantasy. From the looks of Fantastic Four and its trailer, Joel Schumacher may as well have made it.
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The reviews have sucked - not in regard to the quality of the film but rather the qualit of the reviews - yet I will go onward. Bale and Nolan is all I needed to get me there. If it sucks I can shrug and go home. Hell, I've sat through Longest Yard and Kicking and Screaming (for young relatives who wanted to see it), so can it be as awful as those? Doubtful.
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fantastic foreskin will be snipped by the bat-scissors
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Jun 02, 2005 8:09:08 PM CDT
i wonder what the set-up will be for the joker like first review
by mcluvin
any ideas?
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Jun 02, 2005 8:43:21 PM CDT
I'll only pass judgement after I've seen it, unlike a lo
by performingmonkey
While I'm glad these reviews don't point out anything that's majorly wrong with Batman Begins, I'm still skeptical about it. Everything seems just too good to be true, especially the cast (best ensemble of the year?). I want to love this movie but am trying my best to be cautious because I know I could be disappointed after all the build-up, and I'm fucking sick of movies doing that to me. I hope the positives in the reviews are real and not just fabricated in a plant-like way. When reviews start giving excuses about the movie (like about how the suit looks shit in stills but works in the movie) there's a possibility of plant. And not 'plant' as in Poison Ivy from Batman & Robin played by Uma Therman.
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I saw the film Tuesday here in Norway, and I was blown away. This is the bat movie I have been waiting for since the Tim Burtons films witch I love. This is the first real adult bat film ever. Don
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The whole thing just felt dead. As a city, Gotham wasn't alive -- it felt like the soundstage it was, populated with too few extras for its scale. Also, Michael Keaton was far from convincing as the Dark Knight. Nicholson's Joker was half-baked, too. Batman Returns was the best one yet, and for all its flaws is actually a fairly decent film.
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I got my tickets for the midnight showing at the Navy Pier IMAX...I am so jazzed for this!
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Jun 02, 2005 9:51:43 PM CDT
Shut the fuck up with the Crispin Glover shit! Christ!
by xxmr_bojanglesxx
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-Keaton was unconvincing, and Nicholson was ridiculous- BUT the movie had a tremendous amount of visual flair. Seems like a superficial concern, but in fact it's a major point in a comic book movie. The main thing that worries me about this latest one is that it's not visually exciting or distinctive- at least that's how the trailer strikes me. Maybe it's not a dealbreaker- the whole thing may work anyway- but it's... kind of bland-looking.
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Marvel-ripping-off DC Comics logo, more like. It's so similar it's sad to look at. It's like when you see retards immitating adult behavior without understanding the reasoning behind it.
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Jun 02, 2005 10:02:41 PM CDT
I'm surprised no hardcore purists yet have shown up to compl
by thirteen 13
But just in case they decide to show up and complain about the batman costume, I would like for them to keep this in mind. There is a modern day invention we have now. They are called guns. They shoot supersonic projectiles that can rip through one millimeter of spandex and go on to punch clean through a human torso. Even the most agile Ninja can only dodge a hail of bullets for so long. Now it only makes sense to do what Tim Burton did and modernize the costume a little bit, because, Bruce Wayne would probably stop and think " You know. I'm good. I'm damn good. But I think it would make sense if I made a batman outfit that allows great flexibility and can also deflect supersonic projectiles being shot at me." So thus, the modern Batman costume was born. And it is a cool costume no matter what you spandex loving purists think.
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As far as the rubber goes, I don't care about the body armor. That was fine. But there's no reason they couldn't have some form fitting knit material over it, have it black, have it look like ashes, whatever turns you on. I just would've liked to have seen them try, because this looks live evolution rather than revolution, and it undercuts their intention of getting across to the audience that this is a reboot. -
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check the BMB site for the windows media player skin= coolest one i have ever seen.
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I can guarantee you that there are actually people on this board right now, who would blow their wad at the sight of this in the movie: http://i.somethingawful.com/inserts/articlepics/ photoshop/05-06-05-superman/eightcell.jpg (note, take the space out of the url and paste it. I'm not going to be the one to fuck up the talkback formatting)
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Sorry about double posting, but here's the avi version of the footage I posted above.
http://s20.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1OPQJQ6TZ3F233MEBSRA0I1DD2
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Liam Neeson is not playing the Ra's Al Ghul, you twat. He's playing Henri Ducard. Ken Watanabe is the Ra's Al Ghul.
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Watch what you say.
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read the reviews and some talk back.I hope the movie lives up to expectations.anyway,some of you losers out there defy any reason for existence other than take up space and air.To bitch about the material used for Batman costume!people ! u have too much fucking free time on your hands!Alas some things need to be addressed though like the exceess fag factor of superman,really supes has always rated high on the fag-o-meter and the the new look /movie gonna lay to rest any doubt of that.
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read the reviews and some talk back.I hope the movie lives up to expectations.anyway,some of you losers out there defy any reason for existence other than take up space and air.To bitch about the material used for Batman costume!people ! u have too much fucking free time on your hands!Alas some things need to be addressed though like the exceess fag factor of superman,really supes has always rated high on the fag-o-meter and the the new look /movie gonna lay to rest any doubt of that.
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you are sure gonna look stupid when the movie comes out.
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Opening night at the IMAX,Baby. Look for me front and center.
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As long as the batsuit isn
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I'm hopeful. After more than a year of utter tripe it's about time we got an OK movie again.
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Seriously, dude, when even talkbackers tell you to get a life you've got to know you have problems. Your incessant petition-flogging has got to be one of the saddest fanboy activities I've ever seen online. May favorite of yours has to be the petition to remove Darth Vader's "Noooo!" in ROTS. I'm pretty sure you don't drink or use drugs so it's got to be all those sugary breakfast cereals. Whatever toxic chemical infusion it is you indulge in, you do need to cut down on it.
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Rest easy talkbackers,saw Batman begins last night and it is quite well made.good story with good acting from all and good pacing.New take on the bat from a fresh angle and hell,it worked for me.Will definitely appeal to those who loved Frank Miller's YEAR ONE.As for ROTS;SW3.Definitely the best of the prequels,just wish dumbass money greedy lucasH! hadn't wasted so much time and material on SW1:TPM and concentrated more effort expanding the characters and storyline in ROTS.
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www.catwoman-copycat.com
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I think we should petition WB to hand the Batman franchise over to this dip shit. He's got a degree in Batman from Gotham University, and has a Batman tattoo on his ass (Mr_Miracle told me!), so that makes him the perfect choice to helm the next Batman movie. F**K it, if a former hairdresser and florist can have a crack at it, why not a whinny onanist like MovieMac?
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No link, but its coming up right after I start my petition to get people to give a fuck about petitions.
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Jun 03, 2005 8:07:56 AM CDT
FF is the butt of fanboy jokes... better than BB? I think not...
by jon_snow
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Why a form-fitting rubber suit?
Because Spandex...looks...stupid.
We all know it. Unfortunatly there are some of you who still have a hang up about this. You're the same group that got into a twist over The Hulk potentially not being green or wearing purple stretchy pants and just look how ridiculous that all turned out. Why should I care really? maybe it's because I think YOU people getting YOUR way makes for disasterous choices. I can only pray to the great adaptation gods that the movie industry feelers don't land anywhere near your terrible terrible words of advice because trust me, film executives are confused enough..
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Let's get this straight people. Neeson IS Ra's al Ghul playing Henry Ducard. The Japanese bloke is just a cover
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Jun 03, 2005 9:40:06 AM CDT
I'm not even a Bats fan, i want to see this moive, while my
by the founder
Wb is getting ready to pull the stops out and reclaim their thrown, while Marvel is heading to the tar pits of darkness, with one flaming spark that is still floating at the top known as spiderman.
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I don't understand why these guys go out of their way to bash Spiderman. Both Spidey movies put character ahead of the hero AND the villain, both were witty and both pushed the special effects envelope. Bats may be a great movie, but quit bashing the great ones around it.
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...that both I Dunno and moviemack felt the need to "respond" to me in this talkback, where I hadn't posted yet, while referring to posts in other talkbacks (neither of which were Batman talkbacks, I might add). I must really get to these guys. Not enough to make them engage in intelligent debate and certainly not enough to teach them anything (did you look up "mutant" yet, Dunno?), mind you, but it's amusing to know I haunt them so without trying. As for ALL of the reviews I've read of this film so far, they have boosted my optimisim level from cautious to full on looking forward. Again, I can't say, as these reviewers have, that the film is great. But I sure hope they're right. If for no other reason than 'mack's insane rants will become that much more entertaining.
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Really wanna see this one!
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Jun 03, 2005 10:44:23 AM CDT
"There were certain moments that reminded me of the first Batman
by cuervojones
nnnnnnnNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooo!!!
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That first posting is supposed to be from a Japanese guy studying film in the states? The posting reads far too cleanly for a foreigner. Before anyone jumps on me saying that's racist, think about it: Why would you go to the lengths of purposefully pointing out the fact you're not from this country in the first paragraph? Then go on and use perfectly phrased English and colloquialisms familiar to us? These Planty McPlansters need to come up with better gardening skills. The film probably will rock, but don't insult us.
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Jun 03, 2005 12:25:39 PM CDT
"The posting reads far too cleanly for a foreigner"
by salvatoregravano
Yes, that is absolutely correct. He should be writing of "L'as-ar-Ghur" and "flied lice" - how dare one of them darn dirty ferriners use yer decent Anglish, y'all!
In retrospect, he is probably sorry - oh, sorry: he's "solly" - that he did not pretend to be a gin-u-wine born USAmerican (as opposed to Canadians and Mexicans, who, too, are Americans). Then he could have emulated the vast applied linguistic skills of your typical US plankteen, writing, say: "wow i liek seen the nu batmn it wuz totally ql omg if u dont c it u r teh sux omg i liek americn idle n jackass but batmen was ev n better liek omg k im out yo peace".
Perhaps it should be the site's rule: if your mother's tongue is other than English, if you were not born in the USA or any Anglo-Saxon country, if you do not reside in one - you must not use proper English here. Though all three points apply to me, I would refuse to obey this rule, by the way.
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Go get a life you fucking loser. Get a girlfriend, stop masturbating to your fucking mother. If you are on this site, you should be here to discuss movies, not your morbid wet dreams. "Tears on the eyes" is merely an expression to emphasise this is a movie people have talked, complained, and all the struggles were worth while. Of course it is not literate you stupid fucking asshole typical ignorant white trash. Why dont you line up your ugly family and shoot them? Your mother should be the first one to die for raising such an aberation. You fucking cunt, you ferry. Now go back to your closet and shove that shotgun up your ass once again.
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Jun 03, 2005 1:11:07 PM CDT
I'm watching Fight Club right now and I'm starting to th
by xxmr_bojanglesxx
No, I have no petition to sign but I am honestly wondering what people have to say about that. Green hair, pale and has a deranged smile like tight wiring's streeching his mouth open. Ed Norton in that kind of make-up? Sounds like an awesome Joker to me.
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... is someone on the rag today or what?
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Jun 03, 2005 2:00:33 PM CDT
"The same people who think this batman looks good are the ones w
by curryice
Do you actually believe what you're writing there? I hope not.
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...that ForeverTJ is back in yet another guise. Same pathetic shtick, though. I take back everything I said about Rivero -- he's no longer the saddest talkbacker in history.
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judging from the sound of it it looks like batman has gotten his balls back.this is gonna rock.
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Jun 03, 2005 2:52:02 PM CDT
TNT868, you are everything that is wrong with the internet in ge
by i dunno
You'll grow up one day and understand that and feel like a total asshole.
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I don't know, you'd better stop wasting time online and get back to handing out towels. Sounds like you've a lot of child maintenance to pay.
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First of all, Mario Savio, this is a privatly owned message board so I don't think the freedom of speech thing applies but apparently no one's denying your right to be an asshole on here. But some of us still think this Talk Back IS about discussing movies, imagine that. So whoever it is in your real life that you're lashing out against by cursing out strangers behind the safety of your keyboard, make peace with them or go to an AOL chatroom to vent and let the adults talk about movies. Or don't. You just look like a jackass and I thought I'd try to help you out. Flame away.
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"Any man who has any kind of game would agree with everything I'm saying. If you've got game, you want to fuck as many chicks as possible, and not get tied down." You obviously know shit about women or having sex. Keep trying though, eventually you'll get some shit to stick, bro. You are just a rude cocksucker, aren't 'ya?
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I am a true batfan, but that does not make my opinion better than anyone else's. There are things they have changed that I don't like, little things, but overall, this movie seems way better than past attempts. My pet peeve is that they changed the Mark of Zorro to the opera, but I heard it works for the movie. How many Spidey fans went apeshit with the "organic webbing". But I found that it made it more believable than some high school kid inventing it in his bedroom. I like the Burton Batman, but it was not great and not what it should have been. It shold be praised since it helped usher in a new wave of comic book movies and helped Hollywood take them seriously. Until Spiderman, IMO, many of missed the mark.
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...TNT. There are always consequences or costs. Even if they aren't arbitrarily dictated by some governing body or disciplinary authority. It's the old cause/effect principle. You type stupid shit and, consequently, you are perceived as a stupid shit. The cost is any semblance of credibility you might have had if you'd chosen to express anything other than an idiotic sentiment. Any man who refers to the complicated social interrelations and deceptively simple mating habits of men and women (or men and men or women and women or TNT868 and any number of farm animals) as "game" really shouldn't even attempt to impregnate anyone, as the idea of the responsibility that accompanies fatherhood is likely more than your brainpan can process (here's a hint, dumbass, the money is the easy part). Fortunately for the species, Darwin was right. Losers like you usually aren't appealing enough to the opposite sex to be given the opportunity to pass your flawed genetic material to the next generation. Thus, we all win.
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Back to the film, the action and FX are obviously going to be better but I have to say I'm going to miss Burton's Gotham city design. Other than that it looks superior to the others. Just keep Robin out of it until the last 15 minutes of the last film in the series.
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Hey, Salvatore- Shut-up. You're exactly the type of idiot I was referring to when I mentioned the onslaught of posts accusing me of racism. (Fortunately yours seems to be the only one, dumb ass!) Read the review again. For someone who claims to be a younger (based on their prose and stating they're a film student), born foreigner, even if they were raised with english as a secondary language they wouldn't be as adept at using colloquialisms familiar to those born and residing here in the US. That's not racism, that's reality. Re-read the review keeping that in mind and notice how the poster makes sure we're aware of buying the soundtrack and other specific marketing points. I'm no racist. Just familiar with marketing campaigns. Thank you. (And when you're done re-reading the review, go make me some spaghetti and call dat guy we both know and see if he can do somethin' about the thing we need done?...Capiche, greaseball?)
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Look, I hate to do this but just shut the fuck up - if u want my brief bio - i went to school in the UK for most of my life and now I'm in the States- and I want to buy the soundtrack cos I liked the music, and if you like the music then you can buy it, I couldn't care less.
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End of discussion.
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For those who've seen it, what is the last scene that promises The Joker in the next movie? Just curious.
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Jun 04, 2005 9:28:45 AM CDT
JckNapier, here is how they "introduce" the Joker (Spoilers ahea
by shawn f.
It's during the scene where Gordon shows Batman the batsignal. He mentions a new criminal who leaves a calling card (no pun intended). Gordon shows him the card, which is face down in the evidence bag. Batman flips it over, the Joker is exposed, and ta da! We know who will be the villain in the sequel.
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Jun 04, 2005 9:33:12 AM CDT
Two thumbs up from Ebert and Roeper... with Ebert calling BB one
by jon_snow
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There's a really glowing review at Hollywood Reporter. http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr/ reviews/review_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000946415
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Uh oh. Todd McCarthy's not enthusiastic, and he's a pretty level-headed critic. He seems to have wanted more of a comic book movie, though; sounds like he walked in with some baggage. http://www.variety.com/review/ VE1117927300?categoryId=31&cs=1
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Jun 04, 2005 12:04:13 PM CDT
Heh... Variety didn't like it for the very reason I WILL lik
by jon_snow
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Two different last names? One from your review and one from your post? Go back to your desk and come up with something better, marketing hack. I can't believe those guys at Warner Bros. trusted this campaign to you. And if you wouldn't mind, could you please get me some more won ton and a pot of cold tea? Thanks!
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Yeah the last name didn't fit when I created the ID. Bummer, huh? You said it yourself if they wanted a good marketing job done they would have trusted it to someone else, hence my review technically can't be a plant, right? Anyway, you probably won't change your mind, I couldn't care less, I'm over it, later buddy.
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I'd never heard of this web site before, but Rotten Tomatoes linked to it. http://www.grouchoreviews.com/index.php?module=
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...or do you personally know any real nihonjin? It sure doesn't sound like it. I've lived in Japan for a few years now, and have worked as a writer/editor/proofreader for a number of large organizations. Believe me when I say that I personally know dozens of Japanese nationals who can write rings around most Talkbackers. In fact, even though English is mandatory in junior high school and high school here, most Japanese tend to be stronger in their written English than their spoken English. I'm constantly amazed that people here often have a better technical understanding of English grammar than many Americans. An American will instinctively know whether a sentence is grammatically correct or not. But I know many nihonjin who can tell you exactly WHY it's right or wrong. Ask the average guy on the street in Los Angeles to conjugate a verb and he'll probably think you wanna have sex. As it turns out, Sanjuro Yojimbo was raised in the UK, so that explains his English proficiency. But there's no absence of competent Japanese writers here. The premiere he attended at Roppongi Hills did happen. And I haven't heard any bad buzz from it yet. And FYI, wonton (one word) isn't Japanese. It's Chinese (derived from the Chinese "Guangdong").
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