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Published on Tuesday, May 17, 2005 - 1:13am |
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Quint on the set of WAR OF THE WORLDS Part 2! Spielberg talks WOTW, TINTIN, JAWS, ALICE IN WONDERLAND(!') and more!!
Ahoy, squirts! Quint here with part 2 of my set visit... Part one of this set report can be read by clicking here! To lead in to this second part I've included the last few sentences from the first one. Enjoy!
Deb found me and introduced me to a nice lady named Lee Anne De Vette. I had no earthly idea who she was at the time, but I later found out that she was Tom Cruise's sister and publicist.
We chatted a bit before she said, "He wants to meet you, so if you're ready..." I was thinking, "He? He who?" But my brain immediately answered back; "You know damn well he who..."
And so it was that she took me to meet Steven Spielberg.
Spielberg was standing on the slope of the hill, overlooking the valley I talked about in the first report, where the houses covered in the red weed are. There were at least 100 refugees scattered around the valley and up the slope of the hill. It reminded me quite a bit of the original NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD, actually. Single houses in the middle of nowhere, a mass of featureless (at that distance) bodies in ratty clothes... hills and a light mist... well, the mist might have been smoke from all the machine gun and tank firing, but it had the same effect.
Right before we got to Spielberg, Lee Anne De Vette turned to me and asked if I wanted to be introduced as Eric or Quint. Immediately I said, "Please, for the love of God... Introduce me as Eric!" I don't know if this situation has ever happened to someone at AICN... I got suddenly embarrassed that my AICN pseudonym was a character from the movie that made Steven Spielberg famous. How pathetic would that be, to be introduced as "Quint?"
So, of course, she delivers me unto Spielberg and says, "Steven, this is Quint from Ain't It Cool News." I horrified, but not for long. Steven Spielberg warmly shook my hand and said, "Quint! I'm pleased to meet you! I read your columns all the time."
My horror turned to shock. There have been a few occasions where I've met someone I really admire that knew of AICN or knew who I was and every time that happens it weirds me out. Considering how much of an impact JAWS, RAIDERS, TEMPLE OF DOOM, LAST CRUSADE, ET and CLOSE ENCOUNTERS had on me as a kid (not to mention POLTERGEIST, GREMLINS and AMAZING STORIES), this one ranked right up there.
Now, I know some will be disappointed that I didn't use this opportunity to grill the man on INDIANA JONES 4 or anything like that... To be honest, I had a few things I had planned on asking if I got the chance (there's a story I had heard about concerning a particular screening of ET that I wanted to run by him as well as reenforcing what an awesome project THE TALISMAN is and thanking him for not going forward with it in the state it was in last year), but it all just went out the window when we started talking. This wasn't an interview, but an informal chat and I just went along with the conversation.
"I've always liked the name 'Quint'," Spielberg said. "You know who didn't like that name? Robert Shaw." I was aghast.
"Really?" I said. I had never heard that before.
Spielberg went on to say that Shaw thought the name lacked finesse. Spielberg himself thought that Benchley naming the shark hunter "Quint" was perfect and kept trying to tell Shaw that the name is sharp... that it was one syllable and sharp and that he almost used his name to kill the shark, it was that powerful. Shaw apparently didn't fall for any of that and just said, "Steven. Listen to this..." (I was told to keep in mind Robert's "beautiful Welsh accent" for this part) "Listen to this...Quint. Or... McGrrrregor!" The rolling of the r's was what made that funny and I was just happy to get a Quint story that I'd never heard before from the man himself.
I mentioned that I was going to be attending Jawsfest in June, celebrating the 30th Anniversary of JAWS on Martha's Vineyard. He said he'd heard about that, but didn't think he could ever return to Martha's Vineyard, calling it his private Vietnam. To underline his point, he told me that the shoot was so tough that Universal crew members would beg him to be fired off the movie. You see, they couldn't quit because they were Universal contract workers, so they'd lose their pensions if they quit, so they begged to be fired off the project. And Spielberg did fire a few of them, those that were unraveling the most due to the production.
Spielberg knew I had just been in New Zealand, so he asked how KING KONG was coming along. I told him I loved what I had seen and this prompted him talking about how much he loved the original KING KONG and how you can see the craftsmanship for the original KONG. He especially loved that you could see Willis O'Brien's fingerprints on Kong that were put there during the stop-motion process.
He also mentioned having just recently talked to Peter Jackson and seeing a reel that Jackson acted in to showcase how Weta could bring Snowy (TinTin's faithful companion... who happens to be a dog) to life in the TINTIN film Spielberg's producing. He also talked a little bit about a film he's producing called ARGONAUTS, which is a quasi-remake of JASON AND THE ARGONAUTS, focusing on underwater archeology to be done next year.
We also talked about the set we were standing on. I mentioned just how much it reminded me of Wellington, New Zealand with the rolling green hills and he said that's exactly what Tom Cruise said when he saw the location for the first time. Cruise spent much time filming THE LAST SAMURAI on New Zealand's North Island.
A refugee extra, who couldn't have been more than a Junior in High School, nervously edged up to Spielberg while we were talking, his eyes wide... it was clear he had taken some time to bring up the nerve to approach Spielberg. Two PAs or body guards or security guards... I don't know who they were, only that I didn't realize they were around until this kid approached Spielberg and they went to intercept. Spielberg told them it was OK and shook the kid's hand. After talking with the kid for a few seconds, he politely told him that he was "in a meeting" and the extra went back to his spot with a huge grin on his face. That's class.
Spielberg told me a little bit about his approach to WAR OF THE WORLDS, how he's keeping it focused totally on the main characters. For example, he pointed to a hill in the distance. "Say a Tripod crests that hill and approaches our characters... The best shot would probably be a helicopter shot, showing the Tripod in it's full glory." He said that might be the best shot, but instead of doing that, he's keeping the camera low to the ground and not cutting to keep it more from the perspective of the characters on the ground.
I really like that, personally. It's really interesting to see him going for the emotion and fear of the moment than the spectacle of the event. That's certainly one way to avoid being in the INDEPENDENCE DAY realm and picking your moments to open up the spectacle is a Spielberg trait of old. DUEL, JAWS, ET and CLOSE ENCOUNTERS specifically were all very intimate films until Spielberg pulled the rug out from under you... That's why there's so many iconic scenes in those movies... The reveal of the shark as Brody is chumming in JAWS, the Mothership in CLOSE ENCOUNTERS... The evil truck showing its true colors in DUEL... Of course you were teased a lot beforehand in all those films, but all that was to really build to that really big moment. I think Spielberg's talent as a filmmaker is keeping an intimacy with such extraordinary films and it looks like he's doubling his efforts with WAR OF THE WORLDS to make it more in the vain of his earlier films.
The conversation went on a little while longer, mostly talk filled with Ray Harryhausen, but it wasn't long before Spielberg started to head back to towards the director's tent. "If I stand by the camera, they tend to work faster," he said. To my great surprise he dragged me along with him.
Spielberg ushered me into the director's tent (much to the amazement of the Paramount people I came with, I found out later... it's a rare honor, I was told) and introduced me to Janusz Kaminski, who was sitting by the monitors smoking a cigar. Now... I don't smoke. No cigarettes, no nothing. But every time I go to New Zealand, I pick up at least one Cuban cigar and smoke that sometime before I leave. Just sit, watch the country, absorb the environment... You know, relax. It's become tradition and I do it every time I find myself that beautiful country.
While I was in the tent, Janusz handed out a few cigars to some of the crew members (remember this was the last day of photography on the film) and I just had to laugh because the cigars he had were Romeo Y Julieta, the exact same kind I get when I go to New Zealand... Matter of fact, I had smoked my New Zealand cigar not a week earlier while watching one of my last Wellington sunsets. I just thought that coincidence was odd.
I was also introduced to Dakota Fanning. She scares me. I'm not afraid to say it. In person, she's a scary, scary little girl. Cute as a button, of course, but everything I'd heard about her was right. She's like a little adult in a child's body. I was reminded of my fear of midgets, but that's a whole different story... Her eyes were more adult than little girl and the way she was acting was so professional I was taken a bit by surprise.
For instance, Spielberg gave her a bit of direction in the tent, pointing at the stand ins for her and Cruise that were on the monitors as the lighting was in its final stages. The Cruise stand-in was facing the camera holding the Fanning stand-in in his arms. Spielberg noticed that Fanning's stand-in kept obscuring the Cruise stand-in's face as she did her action for the scene, which was reacting to something moving past them, so he pointed it out to her. Fanning immediately started thinking out loud, saying that in the shot before this one, she moved in a certain way, so she could just move in this other way, that way it'd be a continuation of what she did before, but not obscure Cruise's face.
Spielberg got playback of the shot that will be before this shot in the film to double check... The shot that played was a profile shot of Cruise with Fanning in his arms, walking up the hill as refugees were fleeing behind him. He's calling out "Robbie! Robbie!" Robbie is his son (played by Justin Chatwin) and Spielberg told me a little later that his character has run off towards the Army to see the action and Cruise is trying to get to him before he gets himself killed. Suddenly a humvee... on fire... drives erratically past Cruise.
The shot they were setting up was coverage of that scene, of Tom Cruise facing the camera, reacting to the humvee aflame as it rushes past him.
A lot happened in the next couple minutes... it seems like bits and pieces in my memory it all happened so fast... Spielberg introduced me to his daughter, then told me about a present Cruise had gotten him... a classic Mustang... not sure of the year, but I think it was '66, a car he had always wanted, but never indulged in. He was like a kid at Christmas when talking about this very impressive gift... Somehow that got to Dakota Fanning talking about the cigars Janusz was smoking and how Tony Scott (who she worked with on MAN ON FIRE) was a big cigar smoker, too... that even when he wasn't smoking... she pulled at her clothes and did the "airing out" gesture... he was still smoking...
And I was also told by Spielberg that he and Dakota were going to work together again next year on ALICE IN WONDERLAND! I hadn't heard about that one before, so that was a surprise. I'm assuming he means Dreamworks is producing the flick, not that he will be directing, but you never know.
Then Deb Wuliger showed up and started to lead me out of the tent, but Spielberg stopped her. "I want him to meet Tom." So, I was allowed to stay until Tom Cruise came back, which was maybe 2 or 3 minutes later.
When Cruise arrived at the tent, he immediately started joking around with Dakota, acting more like a big brother behind the scenes than the fatherly figure in front of the camera. Spielberg got his attention and introduced us. Cruise has a very unique persona. When he's giving you his attention it's like you're the only person he registers. It's like a weird form of tunnel vision. Of course that means when he's paying attention to someone else you feel like he doesn't register you at all. He was very nice to me, but seemed more interested in getting on with the scene than shaking hands with chubby geeks he doesn't know, which is totally understandable.
I was escorted out of the tent shortly after that. Surreal is a good word for that time. When I was talking with Spielberg it was always over some safe topic, some geek topic, like Ray Harryhausen and Willis O'Brien. It wasn't until the tent that the situation I was in really started to sink in and after I left the tent I was totally in a "did that really just happen?" mode. How I ever spent 25 minutes talking to Steven Spielberg without crumbling into a pile of shivering geek mess I'll never know.
After I rejoined the Paramount group we watched as they gooped up the Hummer, lit it on fire, and sent it driving by Tom Cruise and Dakota Fanning for the shot. My set visit was coming to an end and after they got that first take I was led down the hill where there was a big snack caravan set up. Each cart had its own cook and its own theme. There was the mexican food cart with nachos and quesadillas, the hot dog/corn dog cart, the mini-pizza cart, the fried food cart with onion rings and fries... It was the final night of shooting, so this was a gift to the crew... there were little posters up that had the WAR OF THE WORLDS image of the suction-cup tipped hand holding the earth... except here the alien hand was holding a martini glass with the earth floating in the martini like an olive. I wanted to steal one, but I chickened out.
In total, I spent less than 4 hours on the set, I saw 3 shots filmed and spent almost half an hour talking to a living legend... and I still don't know what the fuck happens in this movie! It's pretty intriguing that we have a huge summer film a month and a half from release that we know almost nothing about. How faithful will it be to the original material? How much action? How much suspense? How much drama? Don't know, don't know, don't know.
I'd like to thank the Paramount folks who helped set this up, including Karl Williams, Amy Powell and the Mystery Woman especially. The experience was amazing for a child of the '80s, much less a child of the '80s that grew up to take on the name Quint for his various internet misadventures. I'd also like to thank Deb Wuliger for putting up with me onset and Lee Anne De Vette for taking me over to the man and to Laurent Bouzereau for chatting JAWS with me.
And a very big thanks to Steven Spielberg for letting a big geek watch you work.
And thank you, folks, for following me on my very verbose and lengthy journey. It was an experience I will remember for the rest of my life and I hope it was a fun one to read along to. Now I just gotta figure out who to beg, bribe, kill or give a lap dance to in order to sneak on to the INDIANA JONES 4 set...

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Reader Talkback
Tintin is my hero. by Ole Gravy Leg | May 17th, 2005 01:53:37 AM | i signed up today so i could
say FIRST!!! by HTCrew | May 17th, 2005 01:53:37 AM | A tie!!! A FREAKIN TIE!!! WHAT
THE FUCK!!!!!! by HTCrew | May 17th, 2005 01:55:08 AM | Holy Shit by Ribbons | May 17th, 2005 01:59:02 AM | Funny. I just watched DUEL an
hour or so ago. by Cash Bailey | May 17th, 2005 02:02:20 AM | Alice in Wonderland?!
NOOOOOOO! by zikade zarathos | May 17th, 2005 02:18:13 AM | as crassly as he makes it, Sin
City kinda has a point... by iamnicksaicnsn | May 17th, 2005 02:52:49 AM | I loved it. by CoursinLarry | May 17th, 2005 02:58:33 AM | Missed Opportunities, Perhaps by jollysleeve | May 17th, 2005 03:05:43 AM | not much of a report though by Duncan_Idaho72 | May 17th, 2005 03:27:13 AM | An apologist? by jollysleeve | May 17th, 2005 03:29:24 AM | And the two parts thing
probably exacerbated things... by jollysleeve | May 17th, 2005 03:37:12 AM | Every time I go to New Zealand
I smoke a cigar by Vern | May 17th, 2005 04:24:16 AM | the story by MrBlue | May 17th, 2005 04:41:35 AM | AND WHERE'S THE FUCK IS THE
NEWS? by Wonderboys | May 17th, 2005 05:28:41 AM | I MEAN "WHERE THE FUCK ARE THE
NEWS?" by Wonderboys | May 17th, 2005 05:29:53 AM | Lol Vern by ScaryJim | May 17th, 2005 05:35:49 AM | No problem, Oilcan by jollysleeve | May 17th, 2005 05:48:53 AM | Quint, you rule man. by Windfola | May 17th, 2005 05:51:11 AM | Jackson pitched WETA to
Spielberg? by Gheorghe Zamfir | May 17th, 2005 06:14:16 AM | TinTin by pax256 | May 17th, 2005 06:42:01 AM | Quint's Spielberg Article-Well
Done by towerman | May 17th, 2005 06:55:12 AM | For Christ's sake, anyone
would think you're all forced
to visit by raw_bean | May 17th, 2005 07:12:40 AM | Hey Quint by John-Locke | May 17th, 2005 07:27:00 AM | Awesome report Quint. by Wee Willie | May 17th, 2005 09:05:21 AM | Staff Reporter by Darth Busey | May 17th, 2005 09:09:32 AM | Is it going to be AMERICAN
MCGEE'S ALICE IN WONDERLAND? by Squashua | May 17th, 2005 09:21:20 AM | WillieWanker & OilCanBoyd by rastar | May 17th, 2005 09:27:01 AM | And one day before this
meeting... by SalvatoreGravano | May 17th, 2005 09:33:51 AM | Dont let bloody Dakota Fanning
play Alice in the damn movie! by hiperaktiv | May 17th, 2005 09:35:49 AM | Tintin casting...for fans. by Rastapopolous | May 17th, 2005 09:42:02 AM | Casting by DocPazuzu | May 17th, 2005 11:00:06 AM | SinCity, Wanker and other
negative people... let go of
your frus by chains | May 17th, 2005 12:02:46 PM | Holy Crap by jollysleeve | May 17th, 2005 01:45:32 PM | chains.. by white owl | May 17th, 2005 01:50:57 PM | wasted chance by bluemancbrit | May 17th, 2005 02:17:04 PM | wasted chance by bluemancbrit | May 17th, 2005 02:17:06 PM | didnt mean to post twice!,
sorry folks by bluemancbrit | May 17th, 2005 02:18:23 PM | by foreignerbelt | May 17th, 2005 02:20:24 PM | Great WOTW bit but...... by Dick Fitzwell | May 17th, 2005 02:26:51 PM | Guess what... this site has no
obligation to deliver anything
to by chains | May 17th, 2005 02:30:32 PM | Speilberg wouldn't know what
to do with Alice. by HypeEndsHere | May 17th, 2005 02:39:47 PM | I guarantee if Quint had
started in with the hard
questions by Big Jim | May 17th, 2005 02:53:57 PM | True, Arch. And kids these
days are like, "WTF is a
walrus?" by HypeEndsHere | May 17th, 2005 03:07:55 PM | Tweedledum & Tweedledee by Big Jim | May 17th, 2005 03:13:51 PM | Spielberg is great but... by PlzBGentle | May 17th, 2005 03:16:56 PM | the tweedle twins by PlzBGentle | May 17th, 2005 03:18:24 PM | HypeEndsHere, no there's
thousands of child stars every
year by ETI | May 17th, 2005 03:23:45 PM | chains the muppet and his
lameass logic by osoccophiliax | May 17th, 2005 03:32:46 PM | raw bean & WillieWanker by Ribbons | May 17th, 2005 03:42:13 PM | raw bean & WillieWanker by Ribbons | May 17th, 2005 03:42:15 PM | aaand for some reason that
just posted twice by Ribbons | May 17th, 2005 03:43:16 PM | ooh, i was with you until Andy
Serkis as the Cheshire Cat by HypeEndsHere | May 17th, 2005 03:55:04 PM | Hey, you guys... by Koranabuse | May 17th, 2005 03:55:14 PM | Spielberg by stvnhthr | May 17th, 2005 04:31:54 PM | all these complaints by splbrg75 | May 17th, 2005 04:47:33 PM | I've been here since '96 by Darth Busey | May 17th, 2005 04:55:26 PM | Thanks Quint by hamo455 | May 17th, 2005 05:01:00 PM | by drjones | May 17th, 2005 05:55:30 PM | Dakota Fanning Could Be A Good
ALICE by ZombieSolutions | May 17th, 2005 05:59:20 PM | Great article! by Darth Thoth | May 17th, 2005 05:59:53 PM | Great report, Quint! by Rupee88 | May 17th, 2005 06:00:05 PM | Dakota Fanning by Rupee88 | May 17th, 2005 06:01:52 PM | Dakota and Alice by Darth Thoth | May 17th, 2005 06:01:52 PM | The Queen of Hearts needs a
flying guillotine on a chain. by HypeEndsHere | May 17th, 2005 06:05:10 PM | Fuck the naysayers! by Brundlefly | May 17th, 2005 07:16:43 PM | Arch, who do we get to direct
this? by HypeEndsHere | May 17th, 2005 08:08:14 PM | stop hating by respectablechum | May 17th, 2005 08:33:59 PM | Rastapopolous by Wee Willie | May 17th, 2005 10:38:50 PM | All You Hypocrites Giving
Quint A Hard Time... by Rebeck | May 17th, 2005 11:33:40 PM | About 'Alice in Wonderland' by Ribbons | May 17th, 2005 11:53:34 PM | Emily Browning by Ribbons | May 17th, 2005 11:58:01 PM | WillieWanker by Ribbons | May 18th, 2005 01:32:59 AM | Ribbons by Duncan_Idaho72 | May 18th, 2005 02:02:31 AM | just give it up, wanker. by team america | May 18th, 2005 02:08:00 AM | Duncan by Ribbons | May 18th, 2005 06:19:41 AM | Bunch of idiots on talkback by Darth Fart | May 18th, 2005 10:49:41 AM | "Dakota Fanning. She scares
me." by Right Bastard | May 18th, 2005 11:27:29 AM | The secretive nature of the
movie by performingmonkey | May 18th, 2005 12:09:41 PM | Some of you guys... by DocPazuzu | May 18th, 2005 12:26:40 PM | You Know If Robert Shaw Was In
That Tent... by embrypotzebra721 | May 18th, 2005 04:46:13 PM | obviously Alice in Wonderland
was intended to be a trilogy.
Car by HypeEndsHere | May 18th, 2005 08:07:28 PM | Don't wash that hand. by mrfan | May 18th, 2005 09:49:17 PM | So, let me say this again by Ribbons | May 18th, 2005 10:32:29 PM | Speilberg said "Tripod" by Ingeld | May 18th, 2005 10:32:54 PM | Spielberg's approach on this
movie by Ribbons | May 18th, 2005 10:41:31 PM | Pudknockers by Gruesome Wedgie | May 19th, 2005 06:57:13 AM | I have seen the new trailer by emeraldboy | May 19th, 2005 02:27:12 PM | Here's how it works kiddies by zigster | May 19th, 2005 06:51:13 PM | And another thing by zigster | May 19th, 2005 06:53:37 PM | Good Article by fiester | May 19th, 2005 08:36:04 PM | Archenemysis by Ribbons | May 19th, 2005 08:42:23 PM | Hard to top ID4 by Rupee88 | May 19th, 2005 10:48:16 PM | Archenemysis by Ribbons | May 20th, 2005 01:00:13 AM | "Hard to top ID4" by Shan | May 20th, 2005 07:42:21 AM | As for Alice in Hong Kong, I
think it's a terrible idea (if
it e by anchorite | May 21st, 2005 06:28:54 AM | Quint, I applaud you on your
piece. I disagree with the
guys on by anchorite | May 21st, 2005 06:35:57 AM | That's what makes this site... by eddiekaay2000 | May 21st, 2005 12:07:08 PM | I am in my right mind, and I
DON'T want to see that, thanks
very by anchorite | May 21st, 2005 12:43:54 PM | Another vote for the American
McGee version of 'Alice' by Hamtaro_Hentai | May 21st, 2005 01:29:00 PM | if you think Craven has the
wherewithall to make ANYTHING
good n by HypeEndsHere | May 21st, 2005 05:00:40 PM | on second thought...yeah by HypeEndsHere | May 21st, 2005 06:48:29 PM | Y'know... by Ribbons | May 22nd, 2005 03:34:43 AM | Cruise and Spileberg declare
war. by emeraldboy | May 22nd, 2005 03:53:23 PM | Spielberg's Private Ryan NO.1
in war film list by emeraldboy | May 22nd, 2005 04:27:59 PM | Jurassic 4? by Lefty Lefterson | May 23rd, 2005 02:27:23 AM | Living Neon Dreams by ophelia-fell | May 23rd, 2005 06:11:43 AM | Has anyone seen the worldwide
Box gross for Revenge of the
Sith by emeraldboy | May 23rd, 2005 08:46:55 AM | where is the news, guys? by emeraldboy | May 23rd, 2005 09:03:43 AM | spelling (as always) by First | May 23rd, 2005 10:41:16 AM | 'Vein' (like artery)? Is that
like 'mouth' (like anus)? by anchorite | May 23rd, 2005 10:58:46 AM | Dakota's PR people are
advising her to get the
emotion chip that by HypeEndsHere | May 23rd, 2005 04:31:38 PM | Funny thing. by Proman1984 | May 26th, 2005 06:45:59 PM | Toms War by emeraldboy | May 27th, 2005 05:25:20 AM | The missing review by Ingeld | May 27th, 2005 07:16:20 AM | It was completely false by jabolino | May 27th, 2005 02:40:30 PM | Spielberg is the ultimate
kid.... by Red Raider | May 29th, 2005 09:49:44 PM | for goodness sake... by beavis33 | May 30th, 2005 07:38:08 AM | Qs 4 Quint to Ask on WOTW
set... by BestOfLuck | May 31st, 2005 05:25:26 PM | Snowy??? by CuervoJones | Jun 1st, 2005 06:14:47 AM | My dream is Elijah Wood as
Tintin by Adiaphoron | Jun 1st, 2005 05:20:31 PM | Did Tom jump on the couch and
talk about Katie Holmes? by Cabron | Jun 2nd, 2005 05:14:18 PM | Tom's Crazy in Love or
maybe he crazy! by emeraldboy | Jun 3rd, 2005 07:24:02 AM | Umm, yeah.... by Jaka | Jun 4th, 2005 01:06:21 AM | And another thing.... by Jaka | Jun 4th, 2005 01:08:45 AM | Good work Quint by Shaw | Jun 5th, 2005 08:57:58 PM | INDY 4 connection by ScottNYC | Jun 7th, 2005 08:11:29 AM |
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