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Ahoy, squirts! Quint here with an interesting change-up in the V FOR VENDETTA cast list. It appears James Purefoy has left the production and is being replaced by Hugo Weaving. Remember that the character Purefoy was playing always wears a mask, so it's quite possible they will not have to reshoot any of his stuff. God... it weirds me out that they're going for a November 4th release... I'm getting too used to geek movies taking years to make and release!
I love Weaving and am psyched to see what he does in this flick. Perfect voice, great presence... He's an actor's actor and I can't wait to see what he does with his body language! Weaving and Portman. Glory be!
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was the best thing in The Matrix trilogy by far. I'm going to hazard a guess that his face will be needed in a few places though.
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He has a great screen presence, but he also tends to give virtually the same performance in every role. It's not a bad performance, mind you, but it's unique enough that it feels like he's retreading [insert whatever movie you first saw Weaving in here] every time you see him in something else.
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Though I don't see the point in replacing him, the role must exist entirely in the dub anyway. Why not replace Purefoy after filming? Or something? I guess this is quicker, but they seem to have different builds. Might actually call for some reshoots and with what I'm figuring is a short schedule, it's going to be a sprint finish. Let's hope it don't suck ass.
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weaving was awsome in lord of the rings yo.the matrix is stupid.
"WE DO NOT HOLD THE BEACH SAY AGAIN,WE DO NOT HOLD THE BEACH."
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...and ME.
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...interpreted as good news. Weaving's a versatile actor, he can pull this off with ease.
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I hear he's quite a prick and tries to fuck everything with an orifice within 100 yards, but I was just curious if anyone knew what he did to merit his firing?
Anyway, who cares? ANYONE could play this role, as long as they're thin and know mime. It's all in the voice, because you never get to see V's face. I pray to fucking GOD they won't change that. I'll buy Agent Smith's voice as V, that's a good match.
Please, don't fuck it up. -
Dog One exit...RIGHT HERE
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if they don't have to reshoot old stuff. I guess they'll dub? I think it'd just be too weird
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THis movie is going to suck no matter who is in it. The comic is just not fit to be adapted into a movie.
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Seriously, have any of you seen Priscilla Queen of the Desert? You'll never look at Agent Smith the same way again, I assure you. Wonder if he gave Larry Wachowski any make-up tips?
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May 09, 2005 2:49:31 AM CDT
Forgot what Priscilla does to your impression of Agent Smith
by gheorghe zamfir
General Zod is the man who you'll never see in the same light.
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not fit to be adapted? how so? or are you just dying to be the first to shout "this sucks"
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May 09, 2005 4:28:06 AM CDT
Not seeing Purfoy is pointless, the dude is gorgeous, HE SHOULD
by chien_sale
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Fantastico.
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May 09, 2005 5:47:23 AM CDT
AeroB you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about
by monkey butler
See more of his work (not just Priscilla, Babe, Matrix and LOTR, each of which is a unique performance in its own right) before spouting such crap
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May 09, 2005 5:55:14 AM CDT
You'll see V's face within the first hour - anyone wanna take th
by angry chimp
Two words geeks - Judge Dredd. As piss poor as it was the fact is the guy never takes his helmet off in the comic. I know I know, it's Sly and all, but the there's just no way a star like weaving (he's a star now) will remain behind the mask- IT WILL COME OFF. Gawd this is gonna be shitty... as terrible terrible terrible as From Hell. Hopefully not as painfull as League. And now Watchman... they should do Halo Jones - Halo Jones anyone?
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As long as Natalie Portman is still in it
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The only problem I have with this is Weaving's voice. I really like him as an actor, but his voice is too distinctive. As soon as you hear it, it'll be "Oh, it's Elrond in a mask". V should have one of those 'everyman' voices, where it literally could be ANYONE behind the mask. Not that that matters if they do unmask him, though. Which they shouldn't. But probably will.
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No, do Zenith! The whole "we're superhuman and don't give a stuff about anyone else and just want to have fun and get smashed" is a refreshing antitode to all those do-gooder American superheros. That plus fighting Nazis from the 4th Dimension and the Old Ones from the Cthulhu mythos in between rock concerts? How could you lose? (For reference , Zenith and Halo Jones are both from the UK weekly comic 2000AD featuring Judge Dredd).
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'nuff said
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What with all the Watchmen hoopla as well, we should declare this national Alan Moore Day, we can celebrate by wearing false beards and creepy hand jewelley, drinking Bitter by the pint and writing letters to each other witout puctuation. Fantastic who is with me. May The Ninth 2006 lets book the village hall and order the beer and pork scratchings.
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May 09, 2005 8:05:00 AM CDT
Ra Ra Rasptuin: I am so there dude! Especially where pig snacks
by big_bubbaloola
Ah got nothing else!!
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May 09, 2005 8:31:27 AM CDT
I'm actually a bit concerned about The Voice, personally.
by fluffyunbound
Love Weaving, no problem with him as an actor. It's just that every line V has is part of a very bitter, very deep inside joke, told with great theatrical wit. Weaving just always sounds so ponderous to me, even as a border collie. That made him perfect to be Agent Smith or Elrond, but I don't know how good a fit it is here. If they were just going to do dub work anyway, they could have gone the Darth Vader route and gotten Peter O'Toole to dub some younger guy's screen work. He's got the kind of embittered stage voice that would have done quite well. I'll still see it, of course. It's still my most anticipated film of the year. And if Weaving pulls it off it should be a hell of a performance.
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people on here mention how important mime will be to the performance and then go on to say that we only have to worry about the voice.
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The hall is booked, any more?
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Pig Fat And Beers - A DREAM COME TRUE!!!
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May 09, 2005 8:50:08 AM CDT
I'm still not sure the Western world's ready for a terrorist ant
by rev_skarekroe
But hey, I've been wrong before.
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Naked around a bonfire please. We have three Moorites to watch so far. Now i am starting to think about making this a day of fancy dress and contests, apple noggin anyone?
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Oh yeah. Now THAT I would love. Although I'm not sure about how the idea of a shopping trip would go down with the big-wigs...
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It'll be fucking atrocious. Are you kidding me?
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May 09, 2005 9:54:41 AM CDT
another comic series that should not be translated to other medi
by gus nukem
just like Watchmen
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See? This guy gets it! Although, I think "V..." is a better fit for a movie then "Watchmen".
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he was absolutely hilarious in lord of the rings. totally hammed it up. actually,i do like a lot of his earlier aussie stuff, but you gotta admit he does like to over-do it every once in a while.
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Why do they have to fuck up every single Alan Moore property? Why won't these people learn? YOU NEVER EVEN SEE V'S FACE?! If you need to know this story then read the fucking comic and leave it alone!Damn.They're going to fuck it up. They're going to fuck up The Watchmen. If they ever make a movie based on Transmetropolitan they'll fuck it up. I'm sure they'll try to make The Invisibles into a feel good summer action flick.
Superman, Spider-Man,Batman, X-Men, and Wonder Woman are all fine to try to fuck up-there's so much comic backstory you can do anything with those including MAYBE making something good, But these Vertigo titles were meant to work in one medium-COMICS! And we LIKE it that way! Constantine anyone? League of Extraordinary Gentlemen anyone? From Hell?
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now if they'd only replace Natalie Portman...
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All my dreams have finally come true. The better question is is there any fantasy/comic/geek movie Weaving won't do?
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Weaving is just great in everything
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There are so many reason why this comic shouldn't be adapted and reading the comic will show you that. First off the pacing of the comic is all wrong for a movie, it just doesn't flow like a movie should. V is not a person but a concept and that will never be fully communicated. It just really makes no sense to make this into a movie, unless you can't come up with original ideas. I like Hugo Weaving, but i don't like when people just make things that people say are cool. They could make it like Sin City, but Sin City was nothing like the comics, it was a great movie, but read the comics and you will see it is completley different. The only thing that is worse than making this is making the Watchmen. If movie companies are desperate to make comic movies, they should make Kingdom Come.
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perfect choice
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hopefully he'll leave his fucking mask on, no one needs to see his grill.. i hope the matrix brothers understand that v's real identity doesnt matter, he could look like harry for all it matters, it's all about the idea. i dont want to see any bullet time shit either, and the costume needs to be like the comic, he needs to be an eery imposing figure, he needs to be physical and athletic, all this weaving can do. but i just hope they respect the material.. all the alan moore fans out there won't stand for dan goyer/spiderman sparkly outfit bullshit! V!V!V!V!V!
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...remember the ultimatum V gave the people of fascist-downtrodden England? That if they did not buck their ideas up about how they related and dealt with their masters, V himself would arrange a terrible fate for them in one year's time? Did he follow through on that threat? Because the good people of England sure didn't rise up against their cruel masters. Did Alan Moore neglect to work up a suitable payoff to that plot thread, because he was making it all up as he went along? I think so!_____________________________________
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Body language is important in a character that doesn't have the benefit of facial expressions. When George Lucas had to replace a sick Anthony Daniels in the C-3PO costume, he ended up having to go back and do it with Anthony, because the movements of the other actor didn't work that well with Anthony's voice.
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I am really looking forward to seeing both of them in this movie. This is one of the films I most anticipate in 2005.
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... will Weaving be attempting a British accent in this? He can't use his American accent (everyone thinks of Smith), or his natural accent because the thing's set in a parallel universe BRITAIN. He should get tips from Matrix co-star Keanu Reeves -- that guy knows how to do a British accent (just look as Dracula!) Heheh
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I think he is perfect for the role of judge dredd. If only they could make a new Judge Dredd movie, directed by Alejandro Jodorowski or
David Lynch. And to the person above that mentioned Zenith -what a bloody great idea, a movie about that would absolutely rock my socks off. Have the guy that did Hellboy direct. I'm still waiting for an ABC warriors movie, and a Warhammer 40.000 trilogy. Just imagine seeing the genestealers fighting a squad of the legion astartes on the big screen, in all it's ruthless and gory glory!! Long live the Emperor!! -
Like many talkbackers here, I dig Hugo Weaving's work. I never saw "Priscilla," which is unfortunate, but I've seen almost all of his other films. Surprisingly, one of my favorites was an Aussie film called "The Interview," an R-rated police drama in which Weaving plays a man who could be completely innocent of a certain crime -- the scapegoat of an internal Police investigation -- or he could be guilty as hell and a total psychopath. Weaving is a great addition to "V."
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To me is perfect for this part. V reminds me of some camp RADA actor with bombs, some kind of psycho Ian McKellen and Weaving can certainly ham it up like that. THE FIERY CHASM FROM WHENCE IT CAME - I love that shit. Plus, his accent in the Matrix movies isn't just him trying to do "American" and sounding weird.I believe he is on record as saying he was trying to capture that weird flat accentless thing that news anchors in North America do, specifically Canadian ones. I reckon he is more than capable of doing whatever accent is required.
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I think the Wachowski's will be pretty faithful to the source. Think about it - when they did the girl-on-girl stuff in Bound they got some lesbian porno chick to do those scenes to make them more authentic, they got proper kung fu people in for the Matrix, they seem to be pretty happy to defer to people they consider to be authorities on whichever subjects - from stuff I've seen with them they seem like they would consider Alan Moore an authority on his own story. Read their intro to the Doc Frankenstein comic - these guys know and love comics. I don't see the need to make this movie but I think if it is going to be made, they are the ones to do it.
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May 09, 2005 8:03:02 PM CDT
She actually went and did it NATALIE PORTMAN shaved bald! FIRST
by orionsangels
http://www.natalieportman.com/picstemp/portman%20(4).jpg
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Kingdom Come? Yeah, that'd be great. Let's make a movie with a BAZILLION characters. And I have read Sin City and it was the closest adaptation yet.
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What do you mean exactly? V for Vendetta was set in a fictional England where nuclear war ravaged the world and although in some ways is based on early 80's Thatcherite Britain it's a story, not relating to our 'universe' at all. You can use your imagination as to what happens next, better yet, write a fanfic. Why not ask the same about every piece or work. Not everything needs a piss poor sequel to explain what happens next, it stands on its own merit because it's just that damn good.
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... The Matrix, Hugo Weaving being in it and at one point Keanu Reeves saying ... well 'whoa' in it. Yes, Zenith would make a great film, especially since he's such an anit-hero. He may have superpowers but he's a complete hedonist and seems to only reluctantly save the world. Everyone with superpowers in that series has some kind of agenda ... not always good ones either.
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It's been seven hours and fifteen days
Since you shaved bald
I go out every night and sleep all day
Since you took your hair away
Since your hair's been gone I can do whatever I want
I see whatever wig I choose
I can cut my hair in a fancy barbershop
But nothing ...
I said nothing can take away these blues,
'Cause nothing compares ...
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...V promised a reckoning for the people of England if they did not pull themselves together. In fact, there was an entire chapter devoted to this speech that V felt it important enough to go to such great lengths to deliver. This happened just before the mid-point, so you would assume that this was pretty important to the story and that the writers should have had a payoff in mind - not to be delivered in a 'sequel' as per your misapprehension, but in the original book itself. I rather think Alan wrote himself into a corner with that idea, couldn't think of anything V could have done in response to non-compliance, so he just dropped the idea. Which was a waste of a chapter since the idea goes nowhere. You don't seem bothered about that, to say the least, so I don't understand why you even bothered to post. The apathetic 'couldn't give a shit' brigade do strange things, I suppose.
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...Hulk Hogan can! "Remember the 5th of November, BROTHER!"
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V threatens the people of England with retribution if they don't get rid of their government. Since the government does, in fact, fall, as a result of chaos and anarchy that spreads when V eliminates the surveillance system, there would be no need for V to undertake his retribution. It's not exactly a loose end. I don't see why you think it is one.
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So say we all
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but I DO know that I would like very much to rub parts of my body on Natalie's shaved head until they made a mess. That is all.
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They barely started filming and they have 6 months to finish everything? Most big-budget movies take about a year. Fingers crossed they're not making another boneheaded decision here.
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I agree with you kuryakin, his voice and his manner of speaking is really great, he has a unique sound. He's one of the actors whose voice I instantly recognize, like James Earl Jones.
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From Hell was a wafer-thin specter of the original, which was so wonderful that I still can't stop going over it in my quieter moments. The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen was just repugnant soulless bombast.
And now this. Hmm. If they cut the anarchism out of this...I'm sweating with rage just thinking about another anti-right-wing masterpiece turned into a lightshow for ignorant multiplex drones. This is a fantastic rant against everything that modern religious republican conservatism stands for.
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I'm not even a graphic novel fan, but my brother gave me that in January...
Beyond cool, makes Sin City look like what it is; kinetic nihilistic style-orgasm.
I'm a wordy man; the idea of a freelance journalist who shoots corrupt politicians with a bowel disruptor and then ices their careers live on air is heaven. -
I just this afternoon read an article (now useless) regarding 'V for Vendetta' in SFX Magazine in which James Purefoy talks about all the preparation he did for the role of V; he studied Japanese Noh dramas, kabuki theatre, and discussed the possibilities of using the mask to its fullest effect with designers and acting instructors. It sounded like he was really getting into it, and I admit I would have gotten excited over the things he must have had in mind for his own performance had I not already known that he's since withdrawn from the production. Hugo Weaving is a good actor and a suitable replacement, but barring a miracle, his preparation will probably not consist of the same in-depth research as Purefoy's and the performance will probably suffer for it.
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