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Fincher lines up a Sagittarius, an Aries and a Scorpio for ZODIAC!!!
Hey folks, Harry here... Variety announced today that David Fincher has cast 3 of his lead characters in ZODIAC - the serial killer investigation flick - which ultimately has no true ending, given the killer has never been caught or convicted - yet it is possible he is quite known. The Zodiac killings in San Francisco is one of the longest runs by a serial killer - and most notable by the fact that he's never been caught, though the killings have stopped. Jake Gyllenhaal has been cast as the newspaper cartoonist that was tracking and tracing the crimes - and who believed he'd found the man responsible - only to find his findings to be ignored. Robert Downey Junior will be playing a reporter covering the case and Mark Ruffalo the lead investigator on the Zodiac case... This case was the basis for the original SCORPIO killer in the original DIRTY HARRY that made all of our days.
This is all based upon Robert Graysmith's two novels: ZODIAC and ZODIAC UNMASKED: THE IDENTITY OF AMERICA'S MOST ELUSIVE SERIAL KILLER REVEALED. This is easily one of my most anticipated projects that I absolutely believe will be great. Hell, I'm just glad to see Fincher going at it again.
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HELL YEAH! It's been too long.
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Loser.
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meh. He sucks at acting.
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Sorry, accidently pressed enter before I could write in the text, but I heard this rumor a while back. This would be some sort of dream for me, because it was through Fight Club that I discovered Pixies in the first place
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This is disappointing. Fincher usually seems to attract more a interesting cast.
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I'd watch that Fincher direct traffic and all, but another serial killer-related movie is not exactly what I was hoping for as his next official project. Like the casting so far, though, save for Darko (I'm still kinda upset he's in Mendes's "Jarhead," too).
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Jake Gyllenhal should be playing Shinji Ikari. I don't care if he's "Too Old", but after seeing "Donnie Darko", he can pull it off.
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What is known, however, is that Arthur Leigh Allen, the "suspect" that the imbecile Graysmith has been trying to frame for years - going as far as producing false "evidence" and coming up with "theories" that would have been laughable even in comic books (Zodiac gave stamps and letters to his friends to lick them, and he wrote using a slide projector and epistoles he collected from other people's lockers) - has been ruled out three times, based on fingerprints, handwriting and DNA analysis.
It's disappointing to see Fincher associating himself with such a lying lunatic. What's next? Will he direct a "Hitler, the Nice Guy" biography based on David Irving's ramblings?
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I was never sold either on the Zodiac being Leigh Allen- Graysmith gives a list of like 30 something items in his follow-up book on why Leigh Allen is Zodiac and I still wasn't convinced... I thought that suspects from the first book were better matches...
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Just terrible. Maybe they should have got Rim Diesel or some equally great commercial BO chump.
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and Downey Jr. isn't a bad actor, he just get's crappy parts because of his retarded drug problems.
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Apr 19, 2005 9:01:00 AM CDT
"Personally this is easily one of my personally anticipated proj
by spamgelus
Well said, Shakespeare.
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I think the casting in this movie is amazing! Downey is a great actor and with Fincher directing I predict this will be huge!!!
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Apr 19, 2005 9:19:04 AM CDT
With Robert Downey in place, could this be the prequel to "NATUR
by jdanielp
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At the time of its release it was and still is, the greatest serial killer film of them all. Nothing has come along that can even touch it. If you want overrated then lets talk about "The Game".
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I hope Fincher will direct this one and do it completely different from what he did with Se7en. This man should make a movie every year or so - he has the talent for it. But he prefers to get himself attached to a new project every month that ends up being directed by a lesser God. Anyhow, I'd love to see this one. (Wasn't the Zodiac killer also the inspiration for the serial killer in Dirty Harry?)
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It is a very tight film, well paced and well acted and with a great concept (that's been ripped off a dozen times since). Anyone notice the AICN updates are coming a bit slow these days?
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And all is movies are as well. Perhaps Alien 3 is the exception, because everyone agrees that one's worth two shits.
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Se7en is the finest serial killer film of all time. Fight Club rocks. Let's ignore Alien 3. And Max Hardcore...well, you're wrong on a number of levels. lol. But it's your opinion, and you're entitled to it.
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You must be high.
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Fresh out of its wrapper, all the way from Singapore, guess who's sitting down tonight to watch Kung Fu Hussle....answers on a postcard to....
Oh, and look forward to Zodiac.. Fincher excellent... hopefully will be pretty good... but then its hollywood...happy endings all round? -
Silence of the Lambs is the best serial killer film of all time. Period. Seven is in the conversation but only because it's a pretty weak genre. I needn't go into a diatribe about why Fight Club is overrated. I think Fincher is certainly competent, but the 16-30 fanboy demographic needs to stop salivating over him.
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Please fellas ... go on a ramble some more. My belly already hurts from laughing. Well, we all will be surprised by this flick ... cause Fincher doesn't tend to repeat himself. My bet is that this more about the drama between these three characters, and not really about where`s the killer? There`s the killer! HUZZAH.
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Folks looking for an honest account of what happened will be seeing about the same similarity to real life events as was displayed in the Amittyville Horror flicks.
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Harry, do you know the differnce between fiction and non-fiction? Graysmith's books are NON-FICTION. Got that? Good.
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The only thing you should know about the film version of THE AMITYVILLE HORROR is, like the one before it, taken from the silly assumption none of what was told in the book happened. The problem with that is, it did. Pull up Ed and Lorraine Warren's website and see what they have to say about it, and why those who say it is false are completely full of shit.
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ALIEN3 was compromised by Fox execs, but its still a little better than its awful reputation.
SEVEN is near-perfect. A classic.
THE GAME is a good film, but under-whelming in repeat viewings.
FIGHT CLUB is also classic, yet slightly over-rated by drooling fanboys.
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It is a good movie, but it's not the deep, Oscar winning picture it's made out to be. It's still just a serial killer movie. I'd rate Seven and SOTL to be on the same level, along with Portrait of a Serial Killer which is also a good one.
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It's considered a classic, is one of only 3 films to sweep the oscars. I don't get the fuss at all. I didn't find it suspenseful and Hopkins performance seems hammier each time I see it. Seven is a lot more thrilling and entertaining the SOTL.
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Silence of the Lambs deserved all the awards and money it made. I watch it still. And it is still entertaining. OTOH, I fell asleep watching Se7en in the theater, and again on video. Nicely filmed, no good characters. Fincher has only made one "classic," which of course is Fight Club. I would say all of his other movies have been mediocre to bad (although every single one of them looks nice).
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alright, not only is this my first post ever on aintitcool. but i also have acquired tickets to episode 3... at 9 am on openining day. after 24 years of a normal life, i'm a nerd.
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How about the first Drity Harry movie, based (loosely) on the zodiac killer? What a time, when we had movies where cops indisciminantly (sorry, no spell checker) killed people in movies, and never had to answer for it. Anyway, I look forward to any new Fincher flick. Even Panic Room, which was a good way for him to clear the air and make a popcorn flick, after the intensity of Se7en and Fight Club.
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regardless of the version, Alien3 is a piece of flaming shit
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First, to Salvadore; there are victims who picked Allen in lineups, friends of Allen who felt he was, and the detectives on the case felt he was their guy, they just never had the needed evidence to charge him; so saying it was a frameup on Greysmith's part is a little unfair.
That said... I highly recommend the book by Greysmith. A friend in college who was interested in FBI Behavioral Sciences (this was just after Silence of the Lambs) recommended it. I picked it up, started it about midnight, as I was going to bed, and finished it at 6am. It freaked me out, and not many books have done that. The worst part was reading it while having this feeling "he knows I'm reading about him, and I know too much now!" I've always recommended the book to people who like scary books. -
They are FICTION. Beliee dat.
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... genius. Seriously. It hurts to think about the mess it's going through now. Thanks for making it hurt even more.
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why do you keep watching it then? j/w
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1. Psycho
2. Bad Lands
3. The Boston Strangler
4. At Close Range
5. Silence of the Lambs
6. Texas Chainsaw Massacre
7. Seven
8. Monster
9. Frenzy
10. Manhunter
Special Mention:The Honeymoon Killers -
Apr 19, 2005 3:47:51 PM CDT
I'm a Scorpio and when I get the flow I'm a doctor on the Go
by orionsangels
We're known as the perv sign, hehe
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great list (adding at close range and frenzy was genius), but i don't consider chainsaw as a serial killer movie. replace it with Kalifornia.
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Apr 19, 2005 4:01:12 PM CDT
Re: I'm a Scorpio and when I get the flow I'm a doctor on the Go
by lando griffin
so Q-tip what you on the mic for?
so about Zodiac I remember watching this ABC special a couple summers ago where they were trying to test the DNA from the Zodiacs letters and stamps. It was late at night, I was home alone and had all the lights off and this special scared the shit out of me. they did re-enactments of some of the murders, with that fuzzy, grainy quality film, the most disturbing one was when they showed him wearing his mask walking up to those teens at the lake in borad daylight. if you think things can't be freaky in the middle of the day, well you are wrong. then they would play this audio of some actor reading the Zodiac letter to the paper, with this deep, slowed down Satanic sounding voice, against the backdrop of that sketch of him with his hood on "THIS IS THE ZODIAC". I had a hard time sleeping that night. yes I know I'm a big puss. So I will defintely be in line for this out of my morbid fascination, plus boner for Fincher films. -
...what with the need to spell out "Robert Downey JUNIOR"? a simple "Jr" would have been sufficient
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Corporal Hicks.
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...was the greatest serial killer movie of all time obviously hasn't seen the original Hannibal Lecter movie, Manhunter (the Mann version, not the recent unnecessary Red Dragon remake). It isn't the best serial killer movie ever either, but it's better than Lambs and Brian Cox's Lecter is a more believable, more frightening and yet seemingly effortless take on the not-so-good Doctor than the self-important, overrated Hopkins could muster on his best day (his performance in Lambs seems funnier to me every time I think of his follow ups in Hannibal and Red Dragon). That said, both films are good. Se7en just happens to be superior. And May deserves an honorable mention on any list of serial killer movies.
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They're both great flicks. I dig Manhunter too but it has not aged well, and I'd take Hopkins turn in Silence over Cox's Lecter anyday, though I agree Hopkins turns in Hannibal and Red Dragon have diluted the character a ton, I don't let those poor sequels take away from Silence.
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what about "M" or "Peeping Tom"?
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Bartertown - if I could revoke your talkbacker geek status I would. Corporal Hicks just happens to be Michael Biehn's character from that little film you might have heard of called "Aliens." The character who David Fincher so egregiously killed off before Alien 3 even began!
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And I like it. But as G. Zamfir said, it hasn't aged particularly well. It's not as strong as Silence. Period. And Seven floats around beneath both of them. Does Seven even have protagonists? Are they not interchangeable with any other buddy cop pair ever? Oh, I forgot. Brad Pitt is the loose cannon with aggression and anger management issues. That's an original cop character.
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1. "M" 2. Henry:Portrait of a serial killer 3.Manhunter 4. Seven 5. Felicia's Journey 6. Freeway 7. The Boston Strangler 8. Kalifornia 9. Peeping Tom 10. Helter Skelter
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ok. you're right. we need a top 20 list. too many good ones. "M" is not one of them though. Freeway and Felicia's Journey are. good list.
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that the Zodia Killer is Wilfred Brumly.
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if i could find a print of "M" worth watching (i've seen it twice, both prints were horrible and I could only barely sit through them) i might change my mind.
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As far as the directing, acting, editing, cinematography and sound design are concerned, Se7en is a much better film than Silence of the Lambs. I just can't get beyond the acting in Silence, it's so over the top that it's more about enjoying watching Hopkins act than actually enjoying the movie. In addition, Jodie Foster was overly sensitive for an FBI Agent. Sure she was supposed to be a new agent but she had the emotional maturity of a 13 year old girl. She wouldn't have made it through training. At least in Se7en you had real characters. I believed them all as people and their motivations all made sense. Even the Kevin Spacey character had an evil logic that made some sense.
What was Hannibal Lecter's motivations? he was evil, that's about it. He liked messing with people and eating their livers. Please, anyone with some basic knowledge in psychology knows Lecter is merely a boogeyman, not a realistic portrait of a psychopath. He might as well twist his handlebar mustache in the film.
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Apr 19, 2005 6:52:40 PM CDT
Buffalo Bill was the only realistic crazy in the film but who re
by proevad
"It puts the lotion on it's skin or else it gets the hose again." Everyone remembers that line from him, and everyone remembers the "member" dance, and everyone remembers the final confrontation between Starling and himself. I think he is very well remembered. BTW, the film was about Starling. She was the center. Buffalo Bill was a secondary character.
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Don't forget 187, with Sam Jackson as the no-nonsense inner-city teacher with a moustache of gold.
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I was just ending the line you started
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1. Seven, 2. Everything else. No one has or ever will do it better. "Lambs" has not aged very well either. Great (if hammy) performances but the direction is very MOVIE OF THE WEEK. Seven is just dark perfection from start to finish. Like "Jaws", every time I see it I find some new gem of a shot or creepy detail - and the script by Walker is so tight.
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Apr 19, 2005 10:37:45 PM CDT
Manhunter is better than Silence and Ruffalo was great in Eterna
by george newman
Manhunter looks dated by the period sure, but all of the technique, the mystery, the characters and the acting as strong as ever. The only thing that looks dated is the dress, architecture and lighting. If you can get over that (I can) you can see that Petersen, Cox, and Noonan are all fantastic. The final confrontation with Iron Butterfly playing is spectacular. Blind Joan Allen, afraid and disoriented as the song pummels her senses is better, more intense and unseetling than Foster when she's trapped in the dark. That scene was great, too, but,,,,
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I wanted to rant and rail at your mistake, but your gentle reception of Dannychico's correction stayed my hand. But with that said,, Holy cow, man! Hicks is like the Han Solo of Aliens. You can't forget Han Solo!! I messed up one time when I was 13 and said 'Han Sulu' but that was a slip, and at least I remembered who he was.
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Fincher is too good to go wasting away doing nothing in between breaks.
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"The Game" is very poorly-paced; "Aliens 3" is a very poorly-directed, poorly-written piece of crap"; "Seven" is good but fails on repeat viewings d/t its over-reliance on shadows and low lighting; "The Fight Club" is very good. "Seven" is definitely not the best serial killer movie of all time-- my votes go to "Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer," "Manhunter" or "Rampage" (the last of which, unfortunately, turns into a stupid courtroom drama). Oh, and the Graysmith books were garbage, but there are some interesting websites devoted to the Zodiac Killer.
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If you are going to call Graysmith's books fiction, I think you better provide something to back it up.
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http://web.archive.org/web/20030801140858/www.zodiackiller.com/GraysmithUnmasked.html
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