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The Last ARRESTED DEVELOPMENT''

Published at:  Apr 17, 2005 1:08:26 AM CDT

I am – Hercules!!



“Arrested Development” gets no respect.



* By giving “Desperate Housewives” its Golden Globe for best TV comedy this year, the Hollywood Foreign Press Association effectively declared the bland, insipid “Housewives” funnier than “Arrested.”



* Fox cut back its second-season “Arrested Development” order to make room for great new shows like “American Dad,” so the Bluths' second season ends tonight, well before both May sweeps and the end of the season proper.



* When E! Online ran its “save our show” poll last month, UPN’s “Veronica Mars” got 56 percent of the vote. “Arrested Development” got 9 percent. “Veronica” subsequently got an early renewal, even though “Arrested,” with “The Simpsons” as its lead-in, enjoys a bigger audience.



The networks don’t announce their fall slates for another month, but USA Today on Wednesday indicated that “Arrested” is in the meantime “on the bubble,” neither renewed nor axed.



My advice to “Arrested Development” fans? Click here to vote in USA Today’s “Save Our Show” poll. If memory serves, “Angel” won this poll two years ago and got a fifth season. “Enterprise” won last year and got a fourth season.



“Veronica Mars” isn’t a candidate this year because it’s already been saved, so maybe “Arrested” now stands a chance! What are you waiting for? Tick tock. TICK TOCK!!!



8:30 p.m. Sunday. Fox.











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  • Apr 17, 2005 1:17:43 AM CDT

    Please!

    by stargirl

    I love this show. I know it's not for everyone, but it IS worth keeping! Let the arbitrary insanity go on!

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  • Apr 17, 2005 1:21:26 AM CDT

    i had low self esteem in newport beach.

    by joestokowski

    fox is fucking retarded if they're thinking about canceling this show.

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  • Apr 17, 2005 1:21:52 AM CDT

    So the E! Online poll saved "Veronica Mars"?

    by smarkjobber

    Herc, stick your head out so I can slap you.

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  • Apr 17, 2005 1:28:58 AM CDT

    Herc didn't say the E! Online poll saved "Veronica Mars."

    by hercules

    You infered that with your tiny little brain. I'm guessing because YOU believe the E! Online poll saved "Veronica Mars." Don't you? Now I want you to go buy a dictionary and look up the words "subsequently" and "consequently."

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  • Apr 17, 2005 1:32:16 AM CDT

    I hope Fox can do the smart thing for Once!!!!

    by cyberbeavis1326

    And that would be...... Cancel this lamentable peice of shit show. I've heard people praise this show left and right, why???? The characters are fucking stupid, it's not even that funny, and worse of all it deserves to be beaten up by "Desperate Housewives." At least "Desperate Housewives" is cleaver for the right reasons. And it doesn't have lame characters that wear shorts cause their afraid of nudity or that fucking loopy bitch Liza Minelli. Fox be smart can this show, who cares if these stupid fans get pissed. If they have real lives, they'll get over it, if not, well who cares, not I or the rest of the people who hate this show.

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  • Apr 17, 2005 1:54:38 AM CDT

    Don't let tonight's episode be its last!

    by pomattovich

    It just boggles my mind. Isn't it worth it to Fox to keep a show that doesn't get incredible ratings in order to be hailed by virtually every critic of having one of the best shows (or the best) on TV? For the first time in years Fox is being hailed as a Network with some class and taste. That's not going to happen if they scrap this for more American Dad (shudder) episodes.

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  • Apr 17, 2005 2:10:51 AM CDT

    Oh? So what are these two sentences doing next to each other?

    by smarkjobber

    You wrote: "When E! Online ran its

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  • Apr 17, 2005 2:13:02 AM CDT

    Articles about the return of Family Guy said that networks now f

    by frankdrebin

    So pick up the Season 1 box. Unfortunately, there aren't any AD toys you can buy (like a "Bluth Family Stair-Mobile", a "Flaming Money-Lined Banana Stand", or a "Blue Man David Cross").

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  • Apr 17, 2005 2:34:43 AM CDT

    "Subsequently"

    by darkzero

  • Apr 17, 2005 2:54:41 AM CDT

    Nice Heads Up, Herc

    by liquid_daze

    I was SO tempted to "keep" Life On A Stick, also. I'd never seen it, so I decided not to. But does Fox have a replacement lined-up for Arrested? Being that I'm HUGE fan of MacFarlane & Co. I expect them to kick ass on Sunday nights. Does Fox feel so strongly about its animated shows, that it thinks it can just stick ANY show in to that two hour block?

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  • Apr 17, 2005 3:17:09 AM CDT

    E Online said that there wasn't a voting limit

    by chorleyfm

    So the Veronica Mars fans could have voted hundreds of times, while like the Bluth family (bar Michael) AD fans just couldn'tbe bothered. I am sorry Herc, usually agree with you but that was a poorly written article, AD getting more viewers than VM is irrelevant when you consider networks and timeslots.

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  • Apr 17, 2005 3:42:35 AM CDT

    So here's my question.

    by hercules

    Do you think "Arrested Development" fans shouldn't bother to vote in the USA Today poll as well?

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  • Apr 17, 2005 4:45:39 AM CDT

    Maybe all of sunday night will blow itself back to the stone age

    by chickengeorgevii

    So...let's see...cancel Arrested Development.....then cancel all the good HBO stuff on the bubble...then cancel the Simpsons after all these years....everyone fall down and bow to the gods of all the girls on the dover of us and people...have the fine folks at ET tell us all the latest news and hot happenings of the shows stars....and then, when they are ready to film season two of housewives, all the girls refuse to show up because they are still in their spat over who gets the better hairdresser and where they sit or stand in the photo of the cover of soap digest.....and then housewives gets cancelled...and BLAMMO!!!! WE HAVE NO SHOWS LEFT FOR SUNDAY NIGHT!!!!! AND NOW WE ARE BACK TO WATCHING HERBIE RIDES AGAIN ON ABC!!!!! CAUSE AS WE ALL KNOW....THEM HEADS OF THE NETWORKS...THEMS IS SOME GENIUSES...YA KNOW!!!!...And thus, "Joey" runs for 12 seasons! - - - George, The 7th Chicken!!!!

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  • Apr 17, 2005 4:51:34 AM CDT

    they can only blame themselves

    by chickengeorgevii

    The problem with Arrested Development was that they had a lack of cleavage and not a single chimpanzee in sight....they DID have a pole though in one episode...but too much clothing...and family TV night just can't have that....And thus, wholesome TV! - - - George, The 7th Chicken!!!!

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  • Apr 17, 2005 6:11:06 AM CDT

    It can't survive

    by coolhive

    This show has no chance. Americans like their sitcom families all warm and friendly and likable. This show is way too clever and quirky to catch on. Move on folks, even if this show lasts one more (abbreviated) season, that will be it. Game over.

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  • You stupid whore.

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  • Apr 17, 2005 8:19:52 AM CDT

    ...or Roseanne, The Simpsons and Malcom In The Middle?

    by aust1n

    You stupid douche bag.

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  • Apr 17, 2005 8:34:26 AM CDT

    Don't Forget to Give USA Today a fake e-mail address

    by cookylamoo

    or they'll send you their crap newspaper materials and sell your e-mail to everyone and their uncle. Not checking the little boxes means nothing.

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  • Apr 17, 2005 9:58:18 AM CDT

    Absolutely the last show on network TV I watch

    by mr. smegma

    If the nets have nothing to offer middle-aged, married guys like me, they are truly doomed.

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  • Apr 17, 2005 9:59:59 AM CDT

    Arrested Development

    by danielkurland

    Let's just hope that the insanely literal doctor will be on tonight's episode. He is one of the best recurring jokes.

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  • Apr 17, 2005 11:10:37 AM CDT

    Am I the only one who doesn't like Arrested Development...

    by jimmy_009

    Sorry, but I like my comedy funny, not smarmy. Even watching the shows 'stars' when they're on talk shows, they come off as so unlikeable and full of themselves, like they're the smartest, funniest damn thing since the birth of television. And that's the same smarmy vibe that I get watching the show. No one I know that's seen it once has ever watched it again and it's NOT because we like dumbed down humor or crap like American Dad, it's just that Arrested Develoment isn't very -likable-.

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  • Apr 17, 2005 11:32:22 AM CDT

    This week on ACCORDING TO JIM...

    by uncle stan

    "Confident Jim is crushed when he loses a hot-dog-eating contest to a petite woman, and Andy compounds Jim's sorrow by deciding to date the winner."

    Do you see why Arrested Development is on the block??? It could never compete with the innovative, sassy, finger-on-the-pulse-of-America style of writing that class-act shows like "According to Jim" delivers week after week!

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  • Apr 17, 2005 11:57:16 AM CDT

    C'mon Herc...

    by filmcritic3000

    How about actually watching "Desperate Housewives"? It's well-written and quite enjoyable. I *LOVE* "Arrested Development also but your venom-filled diatribes against "DH" are pretty lame.

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  • Apr 17, 2005 12:40:07 PM CDT

    arrested development = not funny

    by mcflytrap

    no matter which way you slice it. i tried watching it a few times and i just rolled my eyes constantly. can it.

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  • Apr 17, 2005 12:47:39 PM CDT

    buy the DVDs and make sure they're at your local video store for

    by inwosuxred

    Making sure they're at the local video store might get people to check out the show who otherwise feel that they missed out on the beginning and can't catch up on the plot. Get them hooked so they buy the Season 2 DVD. I'm guessing this will be a drawn out wait and FOX will wait for Season 2 DVD sales to make a final decision.

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  • Apr 17, 2005 12:50:56 PM CDT

    Can the Simpsons, not Arrested Development

    by neovsmatrix

    Arrested Development is the funniest show on network TV right now.

    It may be inconsistent, but it provides some of the most hilarious episodes on TV.


    Simpsons on the other hand, is very stale and is long overdue to be cancelled.

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  • Apr 17, 2005 1:18:35 PM CDT

    uncle stan

    by hattori_hanzo

    wins the thread. arrested has the best "sitcom" writing in years. and jimmy_009, that swarmy feeling is what makes it awesome. the family is a study in dysfunction. plus AD has carl fucking weathers. that alone makes it the best sitcom on tv. ;)

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  • Apr 17, 2005 1:52:48 PM CDT

    I agree that All in the Family could not get made today.

    by barry egan

    The Archie and Meathead characters are too strident and unlikable. The humor is too political. The show doesn't offer simple solutions to complext problems. It's astounding that All in the Family was the #1 show on TV 30 years ago and is too edgy for TV today. Look at how far we've come.

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  • Apr 17, 2005 2:23:59 PM CDT

    i hate to say it, but if ad can't make it after the simpsons the

    by atomheartbrother

    and to a certain extent fox tried selling it but at the end of the day it couldn't find an audience. a shame, but a sad fact too.

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  • Apr 17, 2005 2:32:02 PM CDT

    fx channel

    by hattori_hanzo

    if fox can't support it, then they should give it to their cable alternative. AD would fit nicely with nip/tuck and the shield.

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  • Apr 17, 2005 2:36:03 PM CDT

    what the fuck is wrong with fox?

    by miltonwaddams

    the only live action sitcom they've had that's lasted has been malcom in the middle, and before that 'married with children'. keep moving shit around, like anybody watches your shit channel on any day but sunday anyways.

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  • Apr 17, 2005 2:42:03 PM CDT

    Drop this show

    by zekmoe

    It's not funny. It's outrageous without meaning. It's winkwink clever. It's due to be cancelled.
    Fox sucked cancelling firefly, but 3 months from now, no one will remember, let alone miss, A.D.

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  • Apr 17, 2005 3:31:26 PM CDT

    Fuck FOX

    by spumpkin

    Everything FOX touches turns to lead, with only a few rare exceptions.
    I miss Oliver Bean.
    Fuck you FOX.

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  • Um, I think that's exactly what we're doing and exactly why it's getting canceled.

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  • Apr 17, 2005 6:09:06 PM CDT

    Debralee Scott

    by harrisonsdad

    Yes, I know this is off topic, however . . . I don't know how many of you remember the comedy soap opera "Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman", but Debralee Scott who played Mary Hartman's little sister died this month at the age of 52. Some may remember her as Hotsy Totsy on "welcome Back Kotter", or as one of the smaller roles on a couple of "Police Academy" movies. They say she died of natural causes. What I want to know is . . . who in the world dies of "Natural Causes" at the age of 52. I'm of course curious seeing as how I just rounded the half-century mark myself. Oh well, I do remember Debralee fondly from her time on Mary Hartman. As a young stoner at the time, I found her hot in a slutty kind of way. Now back to our scheduled topic.

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  • Although, Andy Richter should take over as the title character.

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  • I mean, why?

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  • Apr 17, 2005 6:58:34 PM CDT

    I think it's ridiculous that people will expend their energy her

    by drakeavenue

    You jerkoffs, stop raining on peoples' parades about a tv show that they may enjoy (like me - I happen to love ARRESTED DEVELOPMENT and it is the ONLY show on tv that I watch) Though I would love to, I'm not going to bash According to Jim here. What I will say is keep the funniest, most original, well written and developed show that is on television now and since a long while.

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  • This is simply another way of saying if a show doesn't get huge ratings it's not good, or good enough, to be on TV. Now there might not be as many people who casually tune into The Apprentice or CSI: Special Victims Unit as AD, but clearly this show has connected strongly with a select group of people who are really invested in the characters, writing and story. Now if any of you nerds actually ever get around to creating anything more substantial than those fart stains on your computer chair, which reaction would you rather have? Casual acceptance, or impassioned devotion? I'd certainly rather be the guy behind Angel than the guy behind Will & Grace....and for that matter, which do you think is gonna still be around in 20 years?

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  • Apr 17, 2005 7:28:57 PM CDT

    HarrisonsDad, that's very sad news...

    by techtite

    Off topic or not I'd say Debralee Scott deserves her own topic anyway so thanks for bringing it up here. What's really sad is: she passed away back on April 5th and not one entertainment news source I frequent even mentioned it. I always thought she was a much larger staple of 1970's Hollywood than most people give her credit for. She'll be missed.

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  • Apr 17, 2005 8:03:46 PM CDT

    Debralee Scott=natural causes

    by the g-man

    Unfortunately, a lot of people die of natural causes in their 50s, typically heart disease.

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  • Apr 17, 2005 8:58:08 PM CDT

    right, the guy in the $5000 suit is gonna hold the lift for the

    by slappy jones

    COME ON!!

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  • Sitcoms are a dime a dozen because the characters are way too cute, and likable for my taste! "Married with Children" is the kind of show that does nothing for civilization and has no moral value...yet I got some of the biggest laughs in TV history from this show, and the Bundys are way more likable than the so called 'likable' characters in your average sitcom. tried to do what almost every other sitcom didn't. Be nasty and break taboos. But since it's cancelation many years ago, sitcoms don't try har enough to actually be funny anymore. It's as if the networks think were like 'wow, now that that nasty show is gone, we can get back to business as usual' I.E., 'we don't have to go out, and make the funniest show we possibly can. Just paint by the numbers, and we'll do just fine. Wussies.

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  • Apr 17, 2005 9:52:31 PM CDT

    Off topic but..."Stacked"?

    by jack burton

    "Stacked" is on and I have to say it is really atrocious. How do some of these shows get greenlit? And can we finally kill laugh tracks? My God, I want to turn it off but it's some kind of endurance test now. Not one laugh, it's kind of impressive for a pilot to fail this badly. I'm sure it will be a smash hit.

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  • Apr 17, 2005 9:56:09 PM CDT

    Fox sucks for a different reason....

    by metsrulein2k

    The main reason I hate Fox is for the way it treated Married With Children in its final days. Ed O'Nielle got the shows creators (I think their names are roye and levitt, but not sure) to agree to come back and do a one hour final episode send off. Fox never returned their calls. I suppose its for the best that we'll never know what happened to the Bundys. Maybe its fitting, the way the characters are portrayed, that they have no real ending. We just didn't get to see what they were up to anymore. Damn shame....FUCK U FOX!!!!

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  • Apr 17, 2005 10:55:48 PM CDT

    Arrested Development Finale

    by danielkurland

    Wow, I am surprised there have been no comments so far on the actual finale. What a wonderful episode. So well written, it'd really be tough if that was the last episode ever, because so much stuff was left in the air. What I really respect about this show is that they constantly change so much, like complete changes, rather than doing the same old thing and following a routine.

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  • Apr 17, 2005 11:07:25 PM CDT

    Dad will be crushed!

    by new in ny

    Sweet Mary and Joseph, how can you not just f*cking love that show? F*ck you very much, F*X, for cancelling another cutting edge sitcom so that you can pack the hour with more tired "hip" cartoons and maybe some more of those wwwwwacky teenager doin' crazy sh!t, oooh-oh, look out!

    My God, how often do you honestly laugh at a sitcom? Honestly, once a season on a half-decent show? That's why they have that God-forsaken "laugh track," so that the experience isn't entirely painful.

    AD is the first show I've seen since Futurama or Seinfeld that could actually get laughs from the audience!

    ... sigh ...

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  • Apr 17, 2005 11:11:23 PM CDT

    If the Fox suits are shortsighted and stupid enough to cancel t

    by diskatopia

    CAW KEYCAW KEYCAW KEYCAW (flaps arms)... make a new cheaper deal with Hurwitz Company and all involved to lightning rerun seasons 1 and 2 all summer (say, for just whatever fees unions require), or better yet, license just season one to Comedy Central- depending on how the DVD income is sliced, all involved will clearly be in the gravy if they can keep it going a couple more years (Season 1 DVD set is stil in the top 70 selling DVDs on Amazon, which is superb sales for a DVD released 6months ago), and new viewers will be lured in by the getting them up to speed (so they know why a wolf howl, or Buster's red hand chair, or Barry's (Henry Winkler) wink, or myriad other seemingly simple things bring gut laughs to folks following the show. Plus they just can't cancel what must be the first network show to use the word "F**K" (non-beeped, just split into two parts) in Prime Time.

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  • Apr 17, 2005 11:22:44 PM CDT

    I said "cot."

    by uga

    No way was that the last episode.

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  • Apr 17, 2005 11:24:29 PM CDT

    vote at getarrested.com

    by lagusmo

    Everyone who loves Arrested Development should go vote at Fox's own web site to save the show. It's been up for weeks and only had about 51,000 people signed up at last check. Go vote!

    http://getarrested.com/

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  • Apr 17, 2005 11:47:39 PM CDT

    More ACCORDING TO JIM"!

    by uncle stan

  • Apr 17, 2005 11:48:30 PM CDT

    More REBA!

    by uncle stan

  • Apr 17, 2005 11:49:53 PM CDT

    More EVERY BODY LOVES RAYMOND!

    by uncle stan

  • Apr 17, 2005 11:50:44 PM CDT

    More KING OF QUEENS!

    by uncle stan

  • Apr 17, 2005 11:51:36 PM CDT

    More STACKED!

    by uncle stan

  • Apr 17, 2005 11:53:44 PM CDT

    More PUNKY BREWSTER!

    by uncle stan

  • Apr 18, 2005 12:03:29 AM CDT

    why did they say "on the next season"?

    by warp11

    If the show was going to be cancelled?

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  • Apr 18, 2005 12:18:40 AM CDT

    They Said "On The Next Episode" In The Pilot...

    by el fuego

    before it had been picked up. It's just another of the running gags. I've gotta say though, I watched a couple Season 1 episodes last night, and the writing was tighter last year. This season is still the funniest stuff on network TV, but I hope they pick it up if they get picked back up.

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  • Apr 18, 2005 12:20:34 AM CDT

    "On the Next Season..."

    by danielkurland

    They said the same thing at the end of season one and they didn't know if they'd be renewed then either. The DVD commentary reveals that it's just done as wishful thinking and ways of adding closure.

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  • Apr 18, 2005 12:30:54 AM CDT

    RE: why did they say "on the next season"?

    by frankdrebin

    Wishful thinking, or maybe an ironic ending to the series. Also, the "On the next AD" clip sometimes has no connection to the next episode or anything else. It's just an extra funny scene added for no reason.

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  • Apr 18, 2005 12:38:28 AM CDT

    Love This Show!!

    by bitchnig

    The girl who plays MAybe is smokn'. Can't believe they actually went there with the kiss. What's this about them not being cousins though? That kinda ruins the joke.

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  • Apr 18, 2005 1:03:20 AM CDT

    They aren't biological cousins.

    by pomattovich

    It was implied in season one that she was a test tube baby and not made with any Bluth ingredients. This could be the start of something wonderful... would the show be renewed.

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  • Apr 18, 2005 1:10:36 AM CDT

    Wow, what a great ep

    by iamnicksaicnsn

    It may not always be hilarious, but it's a fun show to watch, consistantly, and the acting is so fantastic from everyone. And what a great twist at the end, with the Oscar and whatnot. Everyone vote at www.getarrested.com and if you recommend someone to watch the show they'll give you free shipping and an extra $3 off (so about 8.50 in all) for the Season 1 boxset... and they only claim $5 off!

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  • Apr 18, 2005 1:28:31 AM CDT

    finale

    by ashfett

    Arrested rules. I hope it's coming back. Yes, they established Maebe might not be Tobias and Lindsay's biological daughter in season one. But they also were making fun of themselves and how you can't go too far on US tv: the awkward remark about them maybe not being real cousins was set up early in the episode when we learned that the American remake of the cousins in love movie had akwardly mentioned they weren't biological cousins to make it okay for US audiences. Oh and Herc, Desperate Housewives isn't as great as Arrested, but it's still pretty damn good. And it was pretty awesome for Marc Cherry, the creator of Housewives, to cameo on Arrested tonight.

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  • Apr 18, 2005 3:42:23 AM CDT

    Heh, Marc Cherry's cameo even funnier in light of Herc's article

    by gheorghe zamfir

    Herc's mind, along with its oddly placed hatred for DH, must have had a moment of confused frustration seeing Arrested Development actually make a nod towards Desperate Housewives.

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  • Apr 18, 2005 3:42:39 AM CDT

    Why?

    by bluebottle

    I understand that it costs millions of dollars to produce a season of a show, but they're going to piss that away on a bunch of flops anyway. AD will probably have a huge following in five years. It's ahead of it's time. The audience will catch up. Please, FOX, don't cancel this show. What if they had cancelled Seinfeld after two years? Give it one more year... It's one of the reasons to own a television these days.

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  • Apr 18, 2005 4:48:04 AM CDT

    Here's my idea for a 'Bundy' reunion

    by mbaker

    Al's sitting on his couch, and Kelly steps in to watch her new favorite show, 'American Pop Star'. She learns about upcoming auditions, and decides to enter. Al puts his foot down, but changes his mind when Kelly tells him about the cash prize. In a matter od days, Kelly enters the 'American Pop Star' contest, and wins. Soon, The Bundys are rolling the dough. Just as Kelly's popularity continues to rise, she soon get's her own reality show, 'Life With Kelly' and the network that pick it up (F*X) decides to cancle 'Phsyco Dad'. This infuriates Al to the point of beating up the producers of Kelly's new reality show just to get his beloved show back. As you can tell, this episode idea was basically a big 'FU' to F*X for treating 'Married With Children', and other scriped shows in favor of reality crap.

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  • Marge and Krusty the Clown? Man, that's DARK. Only funny bit was Smither's "straight" shot.

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  • Apr 18, 2005 8:25:34 AM CDT

    angel won the year after that too...

    by jamawalk

    and didn't make it back for another season.

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  • The world would be a much better place without Paris Hilton, and Simon Corwell

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  • Apr 18, 2005 9:11:20 AM CDT

    In the UK...

    by s3rv0

    AD would be a HUGE hit. American sensibilities (or lack thereof) toward comedy are not the same here. We've been almost conditioned that we NEED a laugh track to know when to laugh or not. It's sad, really.

    That's why The Office will fail here, too. It isnt the UK version, but it still has more bite than Joey does. But no laugh track means, I'd wager, people tuning in and going "how come there ain't no laughing?"

    I hope AD stays around. I work most Sunday nights, so I miss here and there, but I have the first season DVDs and when I watch an ep-even lost to the overall story-I get more laughs than just about anything on TV beyond Adult Swim.

    And BTW-Stacked DOES suck huge amounts of ass. But with Pam on it, I see two seasons at least.

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  • Apr 18, 2005 9:20:18 AM CDT

    I'm asking you, Herc: have you even seen DH?

    by minderbinder

    I really want to know, how many episodes have you seen (if any)? Because your comments make you sound like you've never seen it and have zero clue what it's about.

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  • Apr 18, 2005 9:36:21 AM CDT

    Season finale

    by godric

    I really hate to say it, but the season finale felt like a series finale to me. They brought up jokes and brought full-circle storylines that had been there since the very beginning or for a long while--Buster figures out about his dad, the cousins kiss, the falling-apart house...brilliant way to go out, if that's what happens.

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  • Apr 18, 2005 9:50:49 AM CDT

    A glorious end to a brilliant season

    by dijonase24

    I'm going to hold out hope that there will be another season, but I have to agree with godric that if they don't get picked back up this was a great way to end things. When I first heard that the season had been shortened I was worried that it would just end with no closure. All the stories I heard made it sound like the plug was pulled with no notice. It seems now that they were given fair warning and were allowed to wrap things up properly. I'll be sad if we don't ever see the Bluths again, but if we don't, then it was great while it lasted. "Dad'll be crushed." Brilliant.

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  • Apr 18, 2005 10:08:12 AM CDT

    Favorite AD Ep Ever

    by symphy

    Ya know, I didn't understand the whole Arrested Development thing -- saw bits and pieces of Season One and just didn't get it. But so many people I respected kept telling me I had to watch it that I finally started ReplayTVing it, and I understand why I didn't like it before -- it's not the kind of show you can just watch a bit of and laugh, like Friends. All the jokes require paying close attention not only to the full episode, but the whole season, to understand the characters. I hope it comes back for another season, NOW that I'm hooked!

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  • Apr 18, 2005 10:08:12 AM CDT

    Favorite AD Ep Ever

    by symphy

    Ya know, I didn't understand the whole Arrested Development thing -- saw bits and pieces of Season One and just didn't get it. But so many people I respected kept telling me I had to watch it that I finally started ReplayTVing it, and I understand why I didn't like it before -- it's not the kind of show you can just watch a bit of and laugh, like Friends. All the jokes require paying close attention not only to the full episode, but the whole season, to understand the characters. I hope it comes back for another season, NOW that I'm hooked!

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  • Apr 18, 2005 10:29:32 AM CDT

    Angel

    by gob

    "My advice to

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  • As far as I can tell, it was AD he was praising, not According to Jim. It seemed to me he just thought it was not cool for others to vilify someone else's favourite show in defence of one's own. Anyway, I really enjoyed the (season) finale of Arrested Development. I hope it is back next season. As for the "Next on.." bits, I don't remember them ever being scenes actually on the next episode, but rather quick bits of filler between the current episode and the next one. Or, in this case, to answer a couple of questions that would otherwise linger. We now know that Tobias does not get to join Blue Man Group after all, and we see where George Sr. ends up hiding out. And in defence of Desperate Housewives, I'm glad it does not take itself too seriously. After the first episode I posted that no matter what was buried in the pool would be a anti-climactic because in this day-and-age we have pretty much seen it all on TV (most of it on Twin Peaks). But they have handled it well by slowly revealing clues and by using subterfuge to keep us guessing. Now we know who was buried there, but not really why. And that kid telling the Reverand his plan to emotionally destroy his mother was very well done. I think Hercules did see the first episode before declaring that he hated it. But I suspect he went into the show either expecting to hate it or wanting to hate it. And I doubt he has seen an episode since. It's not a perfect show, and not the best show on TV, but it is a good show and I think Hercules should give it a second chance. Maybe someone should send him the DVD when it comes out. Oh, and one last thing: When, oh when, will we be able to post in paragraph form? Rants like this would be easier to read if thoughts could be seperated into paragraphs. Or I guess I could just post three or four times.

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  • Apr 18, 2005 11:05:41 AM CDT

    The amount of "AD" hate on this TB is kinda surprising...

    by smarkjobber

    Curious to know what these people consider good comedy. "Family Guy"? Personally, I'd rather waste 30 minutes emptying bed pans in a retirement home than watch that drivel.

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  • Apr 18, 2005 11:30:04 AM CDT

    Thank you Big Jim for clarifying that for me. I was putting dow

    by drakeavenue

    which by the way, what are those award thingies it won in it's first season? Oh yeah, EMMIES! It won what, for writing, directing, AND original comedy. That to me is reason enough that the show should remain alive.

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  • Apr 18, 2005 11:57:20 AM CDT

    It would be a crying-fucking-shame...

    by childe roland

    ...if this show got cancelled. It's one of the few on non-cable TV I still watch and it consistently makes me laugh. The episode where Ron Howard was taking shots at narration was fantastic. I'm saving this season finale on my DVR and will only watch it after I know for sure if the show's coming back or not (so I know whether to treat it as a season or series finale). I've said before and maintain here that this is the most stupidly funny show on the air for smart people (as opposed to all the stupidly unfunny comedy available for idiots) today. Family Guy is a close second. The Simpsons is old and tired and needs to be put down and what I've seen of American Dad leads me to believe it's where Seth's unfunny goes to die. Fox will out-and-out lose a lot of households if AD gets shitcanned.

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  • Apr 18, 2005 12:17:14 PM CDT

    Send "AD" it to FX or Better Yet, HBO

    by jervis tetch

    It's not like there is a surplus of well-written, well-acted TV comedy out there. "AD" draws low network numbers, but intelligent viewers, I'd suppose. There is room for it somewhere even if not on Fox. Leave it to the lawyers and the agents to figure out where.

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  • Apr 18, 2005 12:22:03 PM CDT

    Somehow people think American Dad is funny...

    by slone13

    ...it is not.

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  • Apr 18, 2005 12:31:27 PM CDT

    Okay, let's face it, some people need comfort shows

    by harrisonsdad

    Comfort shows are shows that follow the same general plot and use canned laughter. Examples would be "According to Jim", "Everybody Loves Raymond", "The King of Queens", etc. These types cannot appreciate genuine humor that goes for the grey area instead of the gut. Although I haven't seen that many episodes of "Arrested Development" (I'm usually not home and don't have enough invested in the show to DVR it), that doesn't mean I think it should die. If you really love this show, show your support by visiting "Save our Show" sites, or write letters to FOX. From what I understand, the show is on the bubble and as long as the bubble hasn't popped, you have some hope. Take that hope, embrace it, and do what you can to save your show. And if you don't like AD, for heaven's sake, quit yappin' and watch something else!

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  • This is how it works: TV only exists because companies believe that TV commercials help sell product. Ratings only serve to show networks how much they can charge companies to show their ads. If the ratings are down, that means they can't charge as much for the airtime. BUT, if you write a letter to to Burger King or Chevy or Swiffer WetJet and say how much you enjoy their product, and how much you enjoyed SEEING THE COMMERICAL for their product on last night's Arrested Development, it'll get them thinking. It might get them buying more airtime for that show, which just might get FOX thinking that maybe they should support it more. I call it reverse boycotting. Try it. I have. Let's hope it works.

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  • Apr 18, 2005 1:59:59 PM CDT

    In the UK...

    by grando

    AD was dumped from it's 9pm Wednesday night timeslot to the 'slot of death' 11pm Sunday. Coincedentaly the same slot that the BBC used to hide Seinfeld and Larry Sanders. What do I care, I get them from BT anyway.....

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  • Apr 18, 2005 2:10:53 PM CDT

    Writing to the advertisers wouldn't be a bad idea...

    by mbaker

    If commercials didn't suck as much as they do now! That's kinda like encouraging the advertising industry to continue making more crap that drives more people like myself away from the breaks.

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  • Apr 18, 2005 2:15:48 PM CDT

    arrested development

    by thekinginyellow

    IS TOTALLY AWESOME. american dad sucks. i love family and was all about american dad but when i saw that test episode back in february i almost puked. it's horrible. arrested development is really funny so...fox...don't fuck this up. you cancelled family when it did bad but was good so don't do this to arrested development. give american dad the ax so arrested development can survive.

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  • Apr 18, 2005 4:34:50 PM CDT

    Bateman, Poehler in new "Heartbreak Kid"

    by jervis tetch

    "Arrested Development" has already paid off for Jason Bateman, evidently. He's supposed to star in a remake of Neil Simon's nasty comedy "The Heartbreak Kid" (1972), in which Charles Grodin played a smarmy young guy who dumps his slobby wife on their honeymoon to pursue vapid beauty Cybill Shepard. Bateman has the Grodin part -- but it should have gone to Will Arnett (aka GOB), who is the friggin' master of smarm. Amy Poehler has the role of the slobby wife who is dumped, and in real life, she's Arnett's wife. Wonder if Paris Hilton will get the Cybill Shepard part, they're certainly two peas in a pod.

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  • Apr 18, 2005 4:53:14 PM CDT

    AD suffers from bad casting.

    by sgt. blueberry

    Great writing, well shot and edited, however the casting is all wrong. With the exception of Jeffrey Tambor and maybe David Cross, the cast is bland, stiff, smarmy has no charm. It's no suprise really. Producers are generally only interested in hiring big names, or one of their friends. But I guess it's the same thing everywhere you go. Hell, most of us got our jobs because we either knew somebody or scored a good recommendation. Still though, I have to agree with jimmy_009 and say that the smarmy cast appear to be a bunch of jerks, on and off the show, and that's one of the reasons I think the mainstream isn't connecting.

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  • Apr 18, 2005 5:23:27 PM CDT

    Fox.... Don't you know, theres always money in the banana stand(

    by cornstalkwalker

    Just give the show some time and it can become another seinfeld.

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  • Jason Bateman's character dislikes his son's girlfriend because she's supposedly a "Plain Jane" but I don't think she's so bad (for a 15-year-old girl I mean)! She dresses like a "Plain Jane" on the show, but I see a potential hottie in about five years' time. Better looking than Maybe (spelling???)

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  • Apr 18, 2005 7:56:32 PM CDT

    No, I'm pretty sure she's vomit inducing.

    by iamnicksaicnsn

    But it might just be part of the character... and she's fat...

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  • Apr 18, 2005 9:32:47 PM CDT

    bad cast?

    by inwosuxred

    Didn't they win an award for casting? Not that is "proof", but I think the casting is amazing. The core cast are all funny, and do what they need to do. They play their characters perfectly. The semi regular, and guest spots are also always amazing. Casting Carl Weathers as Carl Weathers is so good. His character is hilarious. I don't think Winkler has ever been on and not made me laugh. Most or the random characters are funny. Sitwell is funny. Ice is hilarious. I forget the detective's name, but he is hilarious. The doctors are always funny. James Lipton as the warden was funny. I never would have thought Liza Manelli could be good in anything, but when she does her vertigo thing, it always cracks me up. EVERYONE ON THIS SHOW IS FUNNY! I hope the season 2 set has more commentaries

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  • Apr 18, 2005 9:51:47 PM CDT

    F*ck...really??

    by skimn

    Did anyone else catch last weeks ep with George Michael and Maebe? I swear he said "f*ck", then replaying it, it could be "pluck"...but its too damn close to tell....

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  • Apr 18, 2005 11:23:55 PM CDT

    RETURNS THIS SUMMER!!

    by dcbasil

    OMG! WHAT!?
    Check out the header image on
    http://www.fox.com/arresteddev/
    YES!!!!!!!!!!

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  • Apr 18, 2005 11:48:44 PM CDT

    Arrested Development over the summer? Fuck yeah!!!

    by johngalt2005

    They better not just mean re-runs...this better not be like the doctor who comes in and says "Buster's going to be all right." They better mean ORIGINAL fucking episodes over the summer! If so, this has just made my day, week, month, summer! God, I love this show and I am going on a personal crusade to get everyone in America watching. Yeah, I like 'Desperate Housewives' (God, that little Andrew is a fucker) but 'AR' is the best show on TV...one of the best shows ever period! P.S. Maeby (which is how you spell it) is unbelievably hot. Just, wow. I can't even get over it. In the "Meet the Veals" episode where she asks "Who's the hottie?" I was screaming at the TV "You!" Ok, that's enough for now. Looks like 'AR' will live to die another day....whew.

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  • Apr 18, 2005 11:57:53 PM CDT

    And by the way....

    by johngalt2005

    What in the hell happened to Annyong?

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  • Apr 18, 2005 11:59:00 PM CDT

    This is great news

    by bitchnig

    I too hope that they mean there will be original eps over the summer, but I don't know. And the poster who said Ann has the potential to be hotter than maebe must be a homo... those two chicks are not even in the same league!

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  • Apr 19, 2005 12:28:28 AM CDT

    Little help here, please?

    by tall_boy

    hey y'all. I'm a recent convert. Very recently. Like, 2 weeks ago recently. Love it, but I'm such a noob, I know workin my way through season 1 now. Now that Season 2 is over I'm looking for one of those MASSIVE giggatorrents of the entire season. I'm talkin, like, 3-5 gigs, all of Season 2. I could either A) wait till the second season DVD set or B) try to DL all the episodes indivdually. But, A) fuck THAT! I want it now. B) older torrents from the beginning of Season 2 are all dead. So, yeah, BIG TORRENT! ALL OF SEASON 2!! NEED LINK! K? Cool.

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  • Apr 19, 2005 12:42:22 AM CDT

    "Are those balls? Because the last time they were balls."

    by lou c.

    "God, I wish they were balls."

    Henry Winkler = The underrated MVP of Arrested Development.

    Best show on TV, bar none.

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  • Besides what 'godric' mentioned, the show also ends with Bateman now running the company solo without the 'help' of the family, and has Cross leaving Derossi just as Derossi decides she wants to get back together with Cross.

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  • Apr 19, 2005 8:42:05 AM CDT

    "Take a good look at these, cause it's the LAST time!"

    by johngalt2005

    Of course, whether it's Kitty or Lucille, it's NEVER the last time. Here's hoping...

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  • Apr 19, 2005 11:47:32 AM CDT

    The American Dad short that played before Fever Pitch was horrid

    by barry egan

  • Apr 19, 2005 12:12:40 PM CDT

    I agree with people who dislike this show!

    by cyberbeavis1326

    I said it in my first post. The show is crap. Whoever said it was the kind of humor that winkwink but not cleaver and outrageous without merit. Was dead on. This show is not funny, for the same reason "Malcolm in the Middle" isn't funny. Stupid Characters, stupid stories, and unfunny premises. Fox hasn't had many great live action sitcoms since the 90's. "Married with Children" is one. "Get A Life" was another. "Herman's head" was yet another. "Arrested Development" is just a bad show that is getting praised by people who have no idea what is really funny. "AD" fans would laugh at crap like a Banana Stand, where normal people would think "what the fuck??? This isn't funny."

    Why is there so much hate on "AD?" It's simple cause the is not funny at all. Jason Bateman is fucking tool and always will be. Portia DeRossi is an ugly dike. David Cross is an unfunny prick. Liza Minelli is a horrible mess. And last but not least, Jeffrey Tambor is a guy who best is side character, not a main star. He may be talented, but this show drags him down into a pit of shame. Fox should wash their hands clean of this sloppy show, tell you fans to "fuck off and get real lives" if you don't like it. In fact to piss you morons off more, say screw it, we won't give you a season 2 DVD, and we won't sell the rights for others to make a DVD either.

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  • Apr 19, 2005 12:34:13 PM CDT

    good

    by darth_chingow

    the show sucked anyways.

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  • Apr 19, 2005 3:32:31 PM CDT

    If youre using "Hermans Head"...

    by monkeygod464

    as a watermark for good FOX comedy, you're opinion just shouldnt count. I mean Hermans Head!?!? Come ON!

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  • Apr 19, 2005 8:40:25 PM CDT

    AD is funny

    by avant retard

    I'm starting to get the distinct feeling that funny isn't easily defined and that different people have different tastes. That being said I think it's important for people to support TV shows that go beyond the norm and stretch the definition of what is fair play for TV writers. Wheither you like the show or not it's hard to debate that this show isn't some new and that it isn't opening doors. Take a band like the Grateful Dead for example, I can't stand their music but I can appreciate that their culture was benificial to the world of music. Would you rather have some lame fat guy + hot wife + nutty neighbor show?

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  • Apr 19, 2005 11:32:55 PM CDT

    Arrested Development

    by djj

    I like offbeat original shows but I am bit tired of critics and so-call hip people thinking that if a show has incest, dysfunction, extreme sexual content and Europe is doing it that makes it a great show. (Scrubs is a great show)

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  • Apr 20, 2005 2:40:55 PM CDT

    AD Haters

    by hamtaro_hentai

    What I do understand is that some people simply just don't 'get it.' What I don't understand is all the hate. Maybe Fox should just dump all scripted shows in favor of an all American Idol prime-time lineup? Also, AD WILL get a third season, but it will probably be the last one.

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  • Apr 20, 2005 6:54:45 PM CDT

    "I said 'cot', Mom"

    by jonquixote

    I'm still laughing.

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  • Apr 22, 2005 10:26:29 PM CDT

    the last arrested development?

    by pearlie

    At the end, who was the blue man who they said was a natural?

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