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SEVEN SOLDIERS: ZATANNA #1
SHANNA THE SHE-DEVIL #3
INVINCIBLE TPB VOL.4
POWER PACK #1
MNEMOVORE #1
GREAT LAKES AVENGERS #1
SUPERNATURAL FREAK MACHINE: A CAL MCDONALD MYSTERY #1
CHEAP SHOTS!

7 SOLDIERS: ZATANNA # 1

Written by Grant Morrison
Art by Ryan Sook
Published by DC
Reviewed by Zzub Kirevam



A long time ago, on a message board far, far away, someone once posted that Black Canary shouldn't wear fishnet stockings because they aren't practical for kung fu fighting. I couldn't figure out who could possibly object to a leggy blonde in fishnets.

Straight guys? Nope, we're down with it.

Gay guys? Can't speak for 'em, but I'm pretty sure that it would have some kind of icon status or camp appeal.

Lesbian guys? See answer for straight guys.

Straight chicks? Yeah, like they care about practicality in kung fu fights.

I blame the asexual, who really are responsible for all the ills in society.

Zatanna is the other DC heroine in fishnets stockings. She's the Magic Brunette, who wears the magician's assistant costume (you know those skimpy numbers designed to draw yer attention while the magician hides a wad of doves up his nose). I think she last appeared in a Paul Dini produced one-shot.

Writer Grant Morrison and talented artist Ryan Sook have grabbed her up for her own 7 SOLDIERS series. Aside from the cover, which features fishnet gloves (gloves can be a cool fetish) instead of the stockings, the babe cake art Zatanna is downplayed. In the flashbacks where she's helping her father Zatara perform magic on a TV talk show; she's played for laughs as the bumbling assistant. In fact, the framing device for this issue is Zatanna attending a support group meeting for superheroes with low self esteem.

Morrison ties this book closer to the stunning open 7 SOLDIERS O' VICTORY # 0 than he has done with the other entries SHINING KNIGHT and GUARDIAN so far. Gimmick, the fading beauty/fame junkie from 7 SOLDIERS is in Zatanna's support group. References are made to the pixie bug riders and the alien/demon queen, etc.

This superbly illustrated issue contains one of those trippy, comic-dimensional stories that guys like Alan Moore, Neil Gaiman, and Mr. Morrison excel in writing. They must either be fun or a pain in the ass to draw, with each panel representing a new reality. See almost any issue of PROMETHEA for example. Zatanna's current, incompatible boyfriend, a professional skeptic, says, "What did you slip into my latte, Zee?"

In a scene echoing Zatara's death in SWAMP THING, Zatanna is apparently responsible for incinerating her entire circle during a ritual. It seems that one lonely night, she summoned her ideal lover, who turned out to be a demon bent on destroying the universe. Didn't she do her Banishment rituals. Ya gotta do the Banishment rituals and ya can't skimp. Any of you ever been butt-probed by gray aliens? That happened because early in the 20th century, wizards were screwing up their Banishment rituals. Next time the things with the black eyes trot out the Probe device, say, "Thanks, Aleistir! Thanks, Jack!"

Zatanna has apparently lost her power to conjure through speaking backwards. Her new sidekick, on the other hand...

Morrison and Sook really move at a fast pace this issue, as they should. 7 SOLDIERS is going to be one fine achievement for Morrison, the artists, and DC. Next up, KLARION THE WITCH BOY, who'd better not be in fishnets.


SHANNA THE SHE-DEVIL #3

Writer/artist: Frank Cho
Publisher: Marvel Comics
Reviewer: Sleazy G



Wow, this book sure looks great.

That's pretty much all it's got goin' for it, though. It's a pretty lousy read. The weak plot, lame narration, and cheesy dialogue loom over every page like a brontosaurus' head. The Nazi scientists and the viral outbreak don't really add much.

This month we had a scene with a steak-head taking a piss mentioning that he got a "shiver." Not content with letting the people who knew what he meant groan at his tactlessness, Frank Cho then has to *explain* the concept of the "shiver" for us (those quotation marks are his, not mine, BTW). The more readers suffering the better, I suppose.

Admittedly, much of the problem is Marvel's fault. The mini is clearly set in The Savage Land – except they're not allowed to call it that. Oh, and Shanna isn't really Shanna – she’s just somebody the smarmy guys who litter the title as dino-fodder named after somebody they used to read about in comics when they were kids. It's not really self-referential, though, since it doesn't refer to itself – it’s just disappointing.

Marvel should have worried a lot less about a couple of nipples and a lot more about the fact they had what was a mediocre script at best and decided to hamstring it by stripping it of the handful of recognizable elements that would make a longtime Marvel reader give a crap.

But this book sure looks great though.


INVINCIBLE VOL. 4: HEAD OF THE CLASS

Robert Kirkman: Writer
Ryan Ottley: Artist
Image Comics: Publisher
Vroom Socko: Diff’rent Strokes.



I was first turned on to INVINCIBLE by these wise words of Dave “Stop Calling Me Cormorant” Farabee. Oh sure, I’d seen some of the promo stuff before then, but come on. His costume is the Image logo, for pity’s sake. But then I read the first trade collection. And then grabbed the next two. Even having heard from Dave where the story was going, I had a blast. This volume, however, was the first one I went into cold, with no idea of where the story would go.
Well, reading this fourth collection has brought me to an inescapable conclusion: INVINCIBLE is the most idyllic example of a superhero comic book currently being published.

For starters, each of the seven stories in this book is self-contained, as well as wildly different from each other. Here, Mark, aka Invincible fights off not only alien invaders, but extradimensional ones as well. He also takes a trip to Mars, brings down a crime lord, and gets betrothed to a fish woman. All this, and he also managed to graduate from high school. Just one of those events would be a six-issue story arc, plus an epilogue, from certain other creators. Here, these stories are stripped down, lean machines, which suits me just fine.

Then there are the multiple subplots that are cruising through this sucker. Well, strictly speaking they’re not actually subplots. That’s one of the beautiful things about TPB compared to monthlies. Separately, the main focus is on the action, but in this collection the aliens and fishpeople become the subplots. The main story becomes about Mark’s mother dealing with the truth about her husband, about his relationships with his classmates, about his growth as a person. That’s why I love comics. The same material, in two different formats, results in two totally different storytelling experiences. That’s just wonderous.

But what’s really great, what I really, really love about this book, is how it can shift tone so quickly and easily. Kirkman isn’t afraid to make his book seem ridiculous. In an era where the Big Two publishers are quickly turning into Graham Chapman characters from Monty Python, (“This has all gotten far to silly. Come on, you’ve got to do something else now…”) this is a blast and a half. Sure, there are some books that can shift tonally from drama to humor between issues. ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN does this quite often. But Kirkman, he can do it between panels, man! The last two pages of the Mars storyline are the perfect example of this. I’m looking at this one page, with the most perfect joke imaginable, then I turn it over and there’s an amazing “OH FUCK!” shit-hitting-the-fan moment. Just amazing.

Any of you out there dissatisfied with the serious, dramatic “event” storylines out there? Pick up this series. Hell, those of you who enjoy those sort of stories should get this book too. It’s wild fun, dramatic, suspenseful, and this volume also includes the funniest introduction I’ve ever read, courtesy of Mark Waid. This title is one of the great ones, folks.


POWER PACK #1

Writer: Marc Sumerak
Art: Gurihiru & Chris Eliopoulos
Publisher: Marvel
Reviewer: Ambush Bug



I have every issue of the old POWER PACK series and for the life of me I don’t know why. I never really liked the saccharinated adventures of the Power brood. I always found them to be a bit annoying and had no idea why they took part in crossover events such as the “Mutant Massacre” (possibly one of the darkest and one of my most favorite X-Crossovers) where every Morlock and his mother were slaughtered. A tale depicting a Holocaust-like murder of an entire population of mutants in the sewers of New York just didn’t seem to be the place for a quadruplet of tweens in skin-tight body suits. But I bought every issue, since back then I was the most mindless of Marvel Zombies. So mindless, I even bought all of the Marvel UK stuff. Man, am I embarrassed I just said that.

Since SHANNA, SLEEPWALKER, STRANGE, SQUADRON SUPREME, and everyone else is getting a reboot, nowadays, I guess it was just a matter of time before Alex, Julie, Jack, and Katie Power had a chance to shine again. I have to give writer, Marc Sumerak credit. The popular trend these days is to have a) the title character/s not appear in the book unitl the very last page, b) forget all continuity and start as if any issue featuring this/these character/s never existed, and c) retool the character in such an extreme way that said character/s are completely unrecognizable even to those who actually have been reading comics for years. Sumerak bucks all of these annoying trends at the House of Ideas. The Powers are there, front and center, on the first page. They haven’t aged a bit since the eighties, which makes me feel kind of icky, since a smokin’ hot, twenty-something Julie Powers has tits in the latest issue of RUNAWAYS and here she’s a bookish thirteen year old. And Sumerak even has the balls to shell out a recap of the Power’s origin and pretty much their entire 100 plus issue series in the first few pages of this book. It’s refreshing to see the lack of Nu Marvel-ization here.

But I have to say, though, that this isn’t really the type of book for me. The story is light and fitting for the POWER PACK U. I guess that’s okay. Had I a child of my own, this is a book I’d give him or her if he or she were interested in comics. A kid may be interested in seeing other kids his age flying around and beating up aliens. But the best children’s stories are interesting to adults too, and the simple plot of Katie Power wanting to write her “What I Did For Summer Vacation…” report left me cold. Plus plot-holes like the fact that the aliens weren’t able to track the Power kids when they used their powers in their home, but when Katie lets loose with a fire ball on the roof, her power signature is immediately detected from deep space don’t help sell this story for me. I wasn’t a big fan of the cartoony, manga-style art either. Too animation cell-like. Too cutesy. Like I said, I don’t want to be too harsh because there aren’t too many comics out there that would be good for kids, but this type of art just does nothing for me.

So why am I recommending this book, you may ask?

Well, the last five pages of this book were simply the most fun I had reading a comic in a very long time. Sumerak returns with Marvel Bullpen artist Chris Eliopoulos with a back-up story featuring FRANKLIN RICHARDS – SON OF A GENIUS. This tiny tale is just that: a work of genius. It’s worthy of its own series in itself. Like a super-powered CALVIN & HOBBES, Sumerak casts an ornery Franklin Richards as an ornery troublemaker. And if you’re dad had portals to the Negative Zone and the Ultimate Nullifier lying around the house, you’d probably have gotten into a bit of trouble as a youth as well. Sumerak characterizes Franklin not as the cooing, 4 _ shirt-wearin’, arm candy for Sue Storm that he is often depicted as. He’s headstrong, determined, and temperamental. He’s just like his stretchy pop, without the vast amount of know-how Reed picked up in his adult life. Complimenting Franklin’s ornery side is H.E.R.B.I.E. That’s right. This issue features the dramatic return of H.E.R.B.I.E., who here acts like Hobbes voiced by David Hyde Pierce. H.E.R.B.I.E. is high-strung and neurotic. He’s constantly trying to keep Franklin out of trouble and is being dragged into one misadventure after another by the little shit.

I simply loved this story and the concepts behind it. The reader gets to see a side of the Fantastic Four that we rarely see. Through the eyes of a child, the FF Universe can be a pretty amazing place. This is a concept that oozes potential and I hope Marvel is smart enough to give us more adventures with this truly dynamic duo. This issue features Franklin Richards trying to fake illness in order to stay home from school. But Reed’s complex innovations diagnose Franklin as germ-free. PO-ed all to hell, Franklin lifts a shrink machine from his father’s lab and quite literally has a tiny adventure under his father’s nose. Truly fun stuff.

If the rest of this book had this type of imagination and ingenuity, I’d be recommending the whole thing. But for the last five pages, this book is worth the cover price alone. Hey Marvel, more Franklin and H.E.R.B.I.E. please!


MNEMOVORE #1 (of 6)

Writers: Hans Rodionoff and Ray Fawkes
Artist: Mike Huddleston
Publisher: Vertigo/DC
Reviewer: Sleazy G



Vertigo is an imprint that has always been willing to take chances on new writers, stories, and artists. While still in its youth SWAMP THING and HELLBLZAER were there to anchor the imprint. One of those chances the editors took ended up being Neil Gaiman, though, and by the time his run on SANDMAN came to an end his work had left an indelible mark on Vertigo. People loved the world Gaiman had created so much that Vertigo kept publishing follow-ups and spin-offs, some of higher quality than others, that continue to this day. While that’s fine in and of itself, it has made it awfully hard for anyone else to introduce works of horror that aren’t overshadowed by the earliest, most influential Vertigo books. I admit to being partially responsible for this, as I still haven’t read the graphic novels about the paparazzi, Lovecraft, and Poe that I’ve heard such good things about. When I heard about MNEMOVORE I decided it was a good opportunity to give a shot at the kind of stuff I’ve been overlooking and see what else might be crawling around over at Vertigo.

MNEMOVORE follows Kaley Markowic, a 19 year old snowboarder. She wipes out in a tournament and ends up in the hospital. When she wakes up she has amnesia—and a strange little squiggle turning up on her brain scans. When she’s released from the hospital she begins the process of relearning who she is, who the people around her are, and what her life used to be. She decides to go back to the apartment she shares with her boyfriend despite not remembering him or anything about her life, and that’s when things get weird. Kaley and her boyfriend Scott don’t know it, but she’s a carrier for something…well, I don’t know for sure yet if it’s evil, but it sure is icky, and it’s already gotten a hold of Scott.

The one big reservation I had when I first heard about this series was the whole “competitive snowboarder” angle. I was worried it would end up being some lame-assed attempt to hip up her character by having her be all EXTREME! and spouting ridiculous youthspeak catchphrases. Thankfully, there’s none of that. Instead the snowboarding is used to contrast who and what Kaley once was with what’s going on in Kaley’s life since the accident. Near the end of this first issue, there’s a scene where something dark and ugly is invading Scott, and Kaley tries to intervene and finds herself attacked as well. The thing assaults Kaley’s mind and memories, and in a very effective sequence artist Mike Huddleston manages to depict the claustrophobic and horrifying assault while using Kaley’s memories of snowboarding as a counterpoint. The images of Kaley in midair above the trees are clearly meant to be taken both literally and metaphorically. They represent the joy, freedom and hope Kaley has lost, to be sure, but they are also reflections of the very real cost of the accident and what may yet be lost to the forces at work in its wake.

The sequence works even better thanks to the design Huddleston has come up with for the strange creature that appears to have taken root in Kaley’s head. The thing has a body similar to an octopus, if octopuses were made of slugs and had a cluster of eyes like a spider. Or, to put it another way, eeeewww. It’s slimy, it’s mysterious, and…yeah…a hint Lovecraftian. Which is fine—I mean, who doesn’t like creepy transspecies Lovecraftian ickmonsters, after all? I’m just really hoping Rodionoff, Fawkes, and Huddleston have something a little more interesting and thought-provoking up their sleeves than an H.P. riff. So far, though, they’re certainly off to a good start. The book looks good (check out that killer painted cover by Huddleston) and it’s already going in a slightly different direction than I was expecting. There are hints that there may be some metaphorical exploration of the human condition to come instead of just a straight-ahead, literal gorefest, and I’m pretty happy about that. I tend to prefer psychological horror anyway as it tends to lean more heavily on character development and tension. It looks like this might be a story that gives us some of the creepy late-night freakout stuff, some of the “am I going crazy?” paranoia we all dig, and a look at how we define who and what we are. All in all, a pretty good set of material to work with, and I’m looking forward to seeing what the rest of the miniseries holds.


GREAT LAKES AVENGERS #1 (of 4)

Dan Slott: Writer
Paul Pelletier: Artist
Marvel Comics: Publisher
Vroom Socko: Dying Over Here!



Man, have I been looking forward to this one. Dan Slott, the writer who’s brought the funny on books like SHE-HULK and SPIDER-MAN/HUMAN TORCH stepping up to take the piss out of the Disassembled event. What better way to do that than to have Marvel’s most beloved obscure goofball character, Squirrel Girl, handle the intro, with sidekick Monkey Joe providing a running commentary.

Much of the book lives up to the humorous tone set by the intro. The main focus of this issue is the secret origin of Mr. Immortal, and it’s damn hilarious. His first solo attempt as foiling crime is a blast, and a cameo from the real Avengers had me in stitches. There’s also a great gag similar to one of my favorite bits from the film ORGAZMO, where the team heads out on patrol in their Quin-Jetta.

But then, a strange thing happened…

The ending features a fatality among the team, one that surprised me. When Hawkeye was shot in the back and exploded, I went into immediate denial. (Hell, I’m still in denial. They didn’t find a body, after all. Besides, he’s Hawkeye fer fuck’s sake, the Colossus of the Avengers. You know he’s not gonna stay dead!) Then last week, when Blue Beetle bit it, I was just pissed at DC, nothing more. But here… here someone died and I actually gave a shit. Yes, I know. They’re the GLA, nobody sane gives a damn about any of them. (Well, maybe John Byrne, but like I said…) This, along with a bait and switch flashback sequence, had me absolutely enthralled.

Sure, this is a funny, funny book. But it’s also phenomenally dark. The story begins and ends with Mr. Immortal holding a gun to his own head, and his caption boxes are eerily shaped like shell casings. Sure, the grim ‘n gritty stuff’s not all perfect. Mr. Immortal’s childhood especially comes off as a little too After School Special for my tastes. But it works to make you involved with his character and history.

Slott is giving his all on this book, which should surprise no one. He’s the fastest rising writer currently at Marvel, and if he isn’t given his own Spidey book soon then there is no god. With this issue, however, my estimation of him has risen tenfold. Damnit, man! They’re the Great Lakes Avengers! Why are you making care about them?


SUPERNATURAL FREAK MACHINE: A CAL MCDONALD MYSTERY #1

Writer: Steve Niles
Artist: Kelley Jones
Publisher: IDW Publishing
Reviewer: Ambush Bug



There are two ways to mix comedy and horror.

There is horror with comedic elements. This is the type of horror that I love. The horror is often so intense that a funny line or situation is thrown in to ease its intensity. This type of horror knows just how much the audience can take before shocking them back into reality with a good laugh. It clears the air. It reminds the audience that no matter how intense the situation is on the page or on the screen, you are safe and able to laugh and breath a sigh of relief that it isn’t you in that dire situation.

Then there is a horror comedy, which is basically a comedy with horrific elements. These are the types of stories that I’m not so fond of. The horror comedy is often so ludicrous that you can’t take the film or story seriously enough to become invested in the characters or plot. The writer and you are too busy laughing at the characters to care. And when you don’t care about the characters, just what kind of kooky, spooky situation they can ludicrously and narrowly get into and escape from, it becomes more of a cartoon than a story.

I distinguish these two horror/comedy types because I find SUPERNATURAL FREAK MACHINE: A CAL MCDONALD MYSTERY to be walking along the fine line separating these two extremes. At times, as I read this book, there is a wonderful use of pacing exuding a tangible feeling of dread. I loved the scenes depicting the warden returning to the asylum only to find one of his inmates has been experimenting on the staff. These panels leading to an amazing double splash page was horrific and beautiful all at once. It features a return of a character that hasn’t been seen in the comic books, but one who has appeared in the superb Cal McDonald novellas; Dr. Ploynice, a modern day Dr. Frankenstein bent on revenge against Cal.

Then there’s a scene where Cal McDonald, down and out paranormal detective, pukes off the top of the Hollywood sign while talking about his new girlfriend with his ghoul friend, Mo’lock, who just happens to look just like Boris Karloff’s Frankenstein.

I’ve been reading Cal McDonald stories for quite a while now. From novellas like GUNS, DRUGS, AND MONSTERS to more recent comic book series like CRIMINAL MACABRE, Cal has always been a comedic character; always there to blow a puff of smoke and a snarky comment up the @$$ of whatever ghoulie or freaky-deek he stumbles into. It’s always been a part of his character to have moments where the reader laughs out loud at him. My problem is that recently, Niles has been writing McDonald as more of a joke than usual. He’s starting to become a caricature of the original version and I think this is why I am having an adverse reaction to one of my favorite characters in comics.

One of the reasons I’m feeling this way definitely has to do with the fact that the last few Cal miniseries have been drawn by artist Kelley Jones. I’ve been a big fan of Jones’ art. To me, in horror comics, first there was Bernie Wrightston, and then came Kelley Jones. These two guys can draw horror. Period. But Jones seems to amp up the catroonishness in his Cal stories and I find that very distracting. I’d rather be scared then laugh than look at the page, laugh, then maybe get scared as I read. But in the end, that immediate fright-filled reaction is gone because I first see a caricature instead of a character.

I guess what I’m trying to get at is that when I was first introduced to Cal and his wonderful world of monsters in CRIMINAL MACABRE, I was truly scared about what was happening. These creatures he was fighting were all-together ooky and Cal’s comments and actions put me at ease in that it brought me back from the darkness with a laugh. But lately, I’m just laughing at Cal and even the dark moments aren’t so scary anymore.

For me, this is simply a case of a great artist but ultimately the wrong artist for the material. Drawn in a darker tone, this would be a truly creepy read, but Jones toon style kept me from flitting through this story as if it were a Saturday morning cartoon.

It appears as if writer Steve Niles may be taking the character into lighter, more comedic territory. I’ll be sticking around because of my love for the character, but I don’t know how long that’ll be if Cal proceeds down this less horrific and more comedic path. This was an entertaining read, but those who have followed Cal McDonald throughout the years may not be satisfied at its overabundance of levity. If you’re looking for a dark tale like the ones depicted in the Cal McDonald novellas and CRIMINAL MACABRE, you’re not going to find it here. I got a kick out of the story, but that kick got me in the funny bone and not in the gut where the fear lies, and I’m not used to that in A Cal McDonald Mystery.


GREEN LANTERN: REBIRTH #5 - Writer Geoff Johns and uber-talented artist Ethan Van Sciver deliver another winner of an issue, this time featuring the climactic battle between Sinestro and a newly resurrected Hal Jordan. The scope is cosmic, the cast is large. This series is setting the stage for the GL Corps of the future. This issue is filled with fun moments like Hal meeting Kyle for the very first time. Van Sciver draws some great special effects shots depicting small lanterns streaking after the GLs in flight and tiny lanternettes gleaming from a powerful ring blast. Geoff Johns is making Hal Jordan cool for this reader for the very first time. - Bug

ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN #75 - Just when I think I'm starting to get sick of this book, Bendis and Bagley come up with a moment that has me running to my back issues with glee. That second issue of this story, the one that seemed extraneous at the time, pays off magnificently in the final scene of this one. And what a scene it is. The damn thing gave me goose bumps. And the rest of the book ain't to shabby either. - Vroom

DEADSHOT #5 (of 5) - Fun series showing a softer side of Deadshot without turning him into a complete panty-waste. In this issue, the mob has had enough and hires a handful of z-rate villains to rub Deadshot out. Lots of death and bad@$$ery ensues. - Bug

INCREDIBLE HULK #80 - In this issue, we see more of Bruce’s troubled teen years and are offered clues as to what the mule is going on. But it was the final page that really made the issue. “It’s all been a bad, bad dream.” In those seven words, spoken by a two eyed (!) Doc Sampson, writer Peter David summed up my thoughts on the entire Bruce Jones run perfectly and had me smiling so wide I could taste my ears. Great stuff. Those of you scared away from Bruce Jones’ convoluted run should do yourself a favor and check out how the Hulk should really be written. Oh yeah, Wolverine is in this one too. – Bug

WALKING DEAD #17 - Hey, I know some of you are getting sick of me repeating myself about this series being the best of the best. But it’s so true. Why the hell can’t Kirkman bring this type of writing power to MARVEL TEAM-UP? So much major shit happened in this issue that it got promoted to Commander in Chief of All Shits. The killer is revealed and dealt with. Alliances and relationships are damaged. Dastardly plots are being woven. A fragile society is being constructed in the prison with a growing mass of zombies gathering outside its fences. Each and every time I sit down with this issue it ends too soon. And now for my only complaint about this issue: I understand it’s thrilling to get your letter printed in a comic, but do we really need a ten page letter column?!?!!?! I’m sure I’m not the only one who wouldn’t be upset if a few reader letters were left unanswered to make room for a page or three more of pure zombie action. – Bug

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  • April 13, 2005, 7:43 p.m. CST

    FRIST

    by Judge Doom

    Oh, shana indeed looks great

  • April 13, 2005, 8:26 p.m. CST

    Minor rumblings...........

    by Fuzzyjefe

    I'm right there with you on WALKING DEAD. I have read the series thus far through 5 times already. It's like a favorite movie you can pop in anytime and enjoy. I'm REALLY looking forward to where that book is going.-----MNEMOVORE has me back for the next issue. I'm a little sad, since I didn't realize it was a limited series.-----ZATANNA was another great read in the 7 SOLDIERS line. The artwork for the dimensional hopping was one of the best representations for that kind of thing I've ever seen. Trippy as all hell, but easy to follow along. And there was a great little nod to classic Alan Moore SWAMP THING. As an adendum: if you like atomospheric horror comics, try Dark Horse's DAMN NATION and SEA OF RED from Image.-----ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN is a book that I have meant to quit so many times, but for some reason I just can't. Bendis pads the hell out of every story, but I enjoy it. What's wrong with me?-----Speaking of the Ultimate line, the new issue of ULTIMATES is hands down one of the best superhero throwdowns I've ever read. Thor and all the supers sent after him beat the trots out of each other for most of the book. It's brutal. I looooved it. I think I'll go read it again.

  • April 13, 2005, 8:51 p.m. CST

    Walking Dead is not all that

    by sideshowbob

    I got the first trade and wasn't interested enough to pick up the second. And I love zombie movies. Does the series just take a while to get going?

  • April 13, 2005, 9:28 p.m. CST

    POWER PACK?!?!

    by Drworm2002

    wow...havn't thought of them for a while...

  • April 13, 2005, 9:47 p.m. CST

    Hulk is not a dream, PAD is screwing with us.

    by Tall_Boy

    Great ending, anyway.

  • April 13, 2005, 11:20 p.m. CST

    Walking Dead rules, man

    by Phildogger

    It is VERY character driven, but yeah, it does pick up. Zombie Comics are friggin everywhere now, and I love it! Try Contamination, and Damn Nation, that one kicks serious ass so far, and with only 2 issues out, you can jump into it really easily.

  • April 13, 2005, 11:51 p.m. CST

    Buzz himself owns a pair of fishnet briefs.

    by cookylamoo

    He says they make him feel "net sexy". One time wearing them, he asked his date what she thought of the "catch of the day" and he was politely told to "throw it back."

  • April 14, 2005, 2:22 a.m. CST

    Lord knows I don't want to defend Bruce Jones' HULK run...

    by Dave_F

    ...but if Peter David's really pulling an "it was all a dream", I've gotta say...that's a total shit thing to do. I like my retcons done Silver Age style: don't go back and try to "fix" things you don't like - just ignore the shit stuff and press on with some good stories. Actually negating a writer's work, especially one whose work is so recent...I just can't get behind that, no matter my personal distaste for the negated work. Seems really unprofessional on David's part...IF he's actually doing what he appears to be doing. ****** Related dilemma: Peter David's been on my bad side regarding retcons ever since he fucked-over John Byrne's excellent issue of THE THING that revealed Lockjaw, the big Inhuman dog, had once been human before being exposed to the Terragen Mists. It was a bloody beautiful issue from Byrne, poignent and touching allegorically on entrenched traditions and parental issues as Crystal and Quicksilver fought over whether to expose their newborn son to the Mists as a rite of passage. The dilemma, however, is that I can see a case being made that Byrne himself overstepped his bounds with the Lockjaw revelation, everyone having assumed for ages that the big critter was just some mutant dog. On the other hand, Byrne's explanation required no cheesy contrivances, undid no scenes from the past, and honestly could've been ignored by those who didn't like it, so I think he comes out the winner on this one. What galls is that David's retcon of Lockjaw's dramatic and painful speech is so goddamn stupid. He made out that it was actually just a - BOING! - wacky, voice-throwing prank played by another Inhuman...right in the midst of one of the group's most emotionally volatile moments ever. Brilliant, huh?

  • April 14, 2005, 2:33 a.m. CST

    WTF?!?!?

    by kintar0

    Marvel Team Up had fucking MOON KNIGHT in it and it didn't require nary a Bendis. I think that's fucking great. Of all the "creators" who're salivating about using Moon Knight and they give it to Kirkman, who definitely deserves it. Unfortunately, that also means that Moon Knight is "in play" again, and it's only a matter of time before he joins the Avengers or starts fucking Jessica Jones or some bullshit. As a side note, in Waking Dead, the killer HASN'T been "dealt with." Sure, they're gonna hang the person, probably next issue, but you think that it'll just happen? You don't think something may happen with the two convicts? C'mon.

  • April 14, 2005, 3:30 a.m. CST

    Dave_F, I think the Bryne retcon was just David being a jerk.

    by Tall_Boy

    So feel free to be as pissed as you want. As for the Hulk "retcon", don't buy it for a second. The entire arc is about illusion and messing with Banner's head. Also, there was a mention in the previous letter col. that "we aren't going to undo what has happened to the Hulk." This is just David being a mindfuck and looking to push the buttons of people. Personally, I just thought it was a really funny joke.

  • April 14, 2005, 9:31 a.m. CST

    Julie Powers is in Runaways?

    by Squashua

    And she has tits? I must have it. I'm glad (but the inner-perv in me is not) that it's not Katie.

  • April 14, 2005, 9:40 a.m. CST

    Rev_Skarekroe on "The Pulse"

    by rev_skarekroe

    I know it has nothing to do with THIS column, but last week I told Dave_F that I'd give him my opinion of the first trade of "The Pulse." Well, as I recall, Dave liked the first issue with the setup for the series, but thought it fell apart after that as it turned out to be about something rather different. Thing is, I had the exact opposite opinion. Hated the first issue. It read like it was written by some sort of online Bendis-script-generator, the concept did nothing for me, I've never liked Bagley's art, and (although I know this isn't really a fair criticism)I was kind of still hoping for "Alias II". But then the next issue with the reporter and Norman Osborne - excellent, tense stuff. From that point on I loved it despite the art and the dialogue ("It's the Green Goblin?" "Yes." "You're serious?" "Yes." "The Green Goblin?" "Yes." "Seriously?" etc.). I have my doubts about the Secret War tie-in. "Secret War"'s an OK series, but I think I mostly like it because of the art. Anyway, there's me.

  • April 14, 2005, 9:59 a.m. CST

    You made me laugh, Bug.

    by CriticalBill

    The expression is panty waist. But panty waste might even work better as a description.

  • April 14, 2005, 11:30 a.m. CST

    In everyone's opinion, what's the verdict?

    by Shigeru

    Is Thor nuts or not?

  • April 14, 2005, 11:31 a.m. CST

    GLA was a GREAT read...

    by superhero

    I know it's a mini-series and I usually wait for the trade but when John Byrne launched the Great Lakes Avengers in West Coast Avengers all those years ago I instantly just loved the idea! They've not been used to their full potential for years (at least that I'm aware of) and I think this book is perfect. Plus Paul Pelletier's pencil's (who I loved on Negation)are a great fit since his style owes a LOT to early Byrne even if he has surpassed him. This was a SURPRIZINGLY good read. I'm on for the full ride and quite honestly, if they were able to keep the same team together, I'd be up for an ongoing series for sure. Just the fantastic lighthearted (yet serious tone) book that the comic industry needs right now. Hell, I'd even go so far as to say this looks like it could be the kind of book that the 80's Justice League was. It's better than what Justice League: Classified is doing, that's for sure! Byrne should have gotten credit for creating The Great Lakes Avengers, though. I know he and Marvel have a crappy relationship right now but still...the guy did create the team AND he certainly deserves a little respect for his past work even if his current work is sub-par. Byrne...BRING BACK THE NEXT MEN DAMMIT!

  • April 14, 2005, 11:37 a.m. CST

    Walking Dead is a great book but the "new "artist is awful...

    by superhero

    I only read it because of the great writing but the "new" artist is just awful. He's like the Erik Larsen of zombie books. The original artist's work was so clean and crisp and clear. The new guy's stuff is just a mess. You can hardly tell which character's which at times! His work is just so sloppy, man. Oh, how I long for the original artist's work! What kills me is that Kirkman seems to LOVE the guy's work...Oh, well, what do I know????

  • April 14, 2005, 11:40 a.m. CST

    On Thor

    by Fuck You Moses

    If Millar is clever enough - IF MILLAR IS CLEVER ENOUGH - he'll have his cake and eat it too, so that we have a divine Thor who's still crazy being manipulated by an evil Loki who's somehow shmacked him into being a human basket case. That said, I think the last page, with the Ultimates being sent Iraqwards, bodes well for Thor's version of events.

  • April 14, 2005, 11:47 a.m. CST

    Thanks fer the respondo, Rev-o.

    by Dave_F

    I still think it was...how to put this?...narratively disingenuous for Bendis to establish a premise in the first issue (Jessica Jones, investigative journalist!) only to break from it instantly. Would've been like establishing Jessica's P.I. service in the first issue of ALIAS...only to have her take some time off in the Bahamas in the second issue and get into a fight with a vacationing Rhino. Okay, not thaaaaaat bad, but if all Bendis wanted to do with THE PULSE was use the Daily Bugle as a generalized staging ground for stories, why go to such pains to describe Jessica's job and deal with JJJ in the first issue? I can only call that bad writing. It's also none too cool that she sometimes seems like a supporting character in her own book, with Spidey, Cage, and various Daily Bugle personalities often taking the stage from her. Here's a character who's already kind of fringe and marginalized (in the sense that many Marvel readers have no clue who she is) and Bendis shunts her into a lesser role in her own book?! Crazy, daddy-o. ***** Moving on to the Green Goblin arc...well, I ended up not liking that one either - thought it was weak to make the Goblin out to be such a threat and then have Power Man take him down with such ease - but I'll say this: that cliffhanger where the Goblin comes gliding out of the smoke on his glider was probably the creepiest presentation I've ever seen of the character. There, I've said something nice! I'll close on that.

  • April 14, 2005, 11:49 a.m. CST

    Dave_F...did David REALLY do that with Lockjaw???

    by superhero

    When was that revealed? Man, that sucks. That Byrne Thing story was one of J.B.'s greatest stories. What is it wit David and Byrne? Do those two guys just hate each other or what?

  • April 14, 2005, 11:49 a.m. CST

    by Shigeru

    a divine Thor who was somehow made (by Loki) so that his power only came from the Belt and Hammer. If he's just crazy: what happened to that super planet-destroying nuke when he teleported it during the alien invasion? Either way I sure as hell hope that this books stays more regular than last time because it looks like Millar has grand plans.

  • April 14, 2005, 11:55 a.m. CST

    Recommendation of the week: Image's THE ATHEIST.

    by Dave_F

    Very cool mystery/paranoia/supernatural yarn written by Phil Hester, the artist-cum-writer who penned last year's excellent miniseries, DEEP SLEEPER. Man, this Hester guy! You're always nervous when artists start writing, 'cause you're thinking, "Oh shit...YOUNGBLOOD!", but Hester's a better writer than 90% of the guys who ONLY write - punkasses, the lot of 'em! Seriously, check it out. When I interviewed Vaughan last year and he said the way to get a series read was to write a first issue that was so compelling that readers HAD to return for the next outing...ATHEIST was the kind of story he was talking about. I'll shoot for a full review for the next column. Only downside to the book is that artist John McRea, he of HITMAN fame, is merely "good" this time out.

  • April 14, 2005, 12:18 p.m. CST

    Fishnets

    by sinewave

    I think I made the post that Zzub is referring to about how stupid it is for Black Canary to fight in fishnets, which it is. Granted, she does look yummy in 'em, but damn it's impractical. Where's the protection?

  • April 14, 2005, 12:22 p.m. CST

    David did what to Lockjaw?

    by JonQuixote

    What? WHAT?? Not that I'm really comfortable defending John Byrne, but that's atrocious. That story was incredibly poignant and beautiful. David should have awful, jagged things shoved into his rectum if this is true. Shame on him.

  • April 14, 2005, 12:23 p.m. CST

    ZATANNA was the first SEVEN SOLDIERS outing that left me a bit l

    by Dave_F

    When Grant starts getting into the mystical mumbo-jumbo, I just start tuning out, and it's a bit of an Achilles Heel for him. Alan Moore seems wholly adept at writing such stuff lucidly and compellingly, but with Morrison it just feels sorta random, even self-indulgent. The issue still had some good moments, though, and pretty brilliant art (I can't believe Sook was once a Mignola clone), so I'm onboard, just not as jazzed as I was about SHINING KNIGHT and THE GUARDIAN.

  • And that's just lame. Put down the photos, you puss!

  • April 14, 2005, 12:54 p.m. CST

    testing

    by Gus Nukem

    testing

  • April 14, 2005, 12:56 p.m. CST

    Besides the Thor question.....

    by Fuzzyjefe

    who's the leak inside? Who outed Banner/Hulk? I gots to know. Also, just who is Loki working with to stir shit up? I don't know about anyone else, but as far as I'm concerned, Ultimates vol. 2 is shaping up to be one hell of a ride.

  • April 14, 2005, 1:14 p.m. CST

    And the supreme irony is...

    by Dave_F

    As much as I pushed INVINCIBLE early on (thanks for the plug, Vroom!), I ended up derailing from the book a few months back and haven't read it since. But that's me - I'm a real picky bastard and if I hit a storyline or two that don't click, I start planning my exit strategy. Folks have been telling me good things about recent issues, though, so maybe it's time for me to put aside my fickleness and give 'er a go again. It's definitely one of those series that, when it's on, it's ON.

  • April 14, 2005, 1:25 p.m. CST

    With you a Zatanna, Dave

    by sideshowbob

    Except the last page was a killer hook to keep reading. But...going into 7 Soldiers, I kinda wanted to not read one or two of the minis, to see how the story comes together without them (since it's supposed to work that way), then after the fact read the rest and complete the puzzle. Do I have the resolve to follow through on that plan? Probably not.

  • April 14, 2005, 1:29 p.m. CST

    But "The Pulse" ISN'T Jessica Jones' book, Dave.

    by rev_skarekroe

    That's like calling "The Avengers" Captain America's book.

  • April 14, 2005, 1:34 p.m. CST

    Shining Knight has been the best thus far

    by sideshowbob

    Next time I see Grant Morrison, I'll have to slip him $50 to try and bribe him into writing an ongoing fantasy series. C'mon, Grant, you know that'd be a lot more fun than JLA!

  • April 14, 2005, 1:43 p.m. CST

    Steve Dillon & ult X-men 58 ????

    by Gus Nukem

    Steve Dillon was announced to be the guest penciller / artist on ult. X-men 58. Is he ? marvel.com doesn't think so. Well, is he ? What can we be expecting from him next? thanks

  • April 14, 2005, 1:50 p.m. CST

    Hmm...some truth to that, Rev.

    by Dave_F

    But I would say she's the *central* character in an ensemble cast, and certainly the first issue set her up in lead status. She's the only character whose personal life we really get into. But, yeah, I'll grant I'm maybe mapping to much of an "ALIAS 2" notion onto the series. I still think Jessica should get more airtime in it because it needs the focus she could bring. I like Urich and Jonah and Bendis usually writes 'em pretty well, but the set-up lends itself to being viewed from the point of view of an outsider - Jessica. I know part of Bendis's goal with the series was to share with readers the vitality of an ailing medium - newspapers - and since fewer and fewer folks are reading 'em, why not play up newbie reporter aid Jones as the reader's POV? Why jump right into the Green Goblin action and then the SECRET WAR stuff before even allowing the newspaper angle to breathe?

  • April 14, 2005, 1:50 p.m. CST

    Dave, are you talking about that quick throwaway joke from X-Fac

    by Big Bad Clone

    Quicksilver is kind of a dick, who says he wasn't making a joke of his own.

  • April 14, 2005, 1:51 p.m. CST

    But more importantly Giant Sized Man-Thing coming on Sci Fi in a

    by Big Bad Clone

    Didn't they promise to make this into a theatrical run movie?

  • April 14, 2005, 1:55 p.m. CST

    X-Dillon

    by Dave_F

    Yep, Steve Dillon drew this week's ULTIMATE X-MEN, Gus. Did a right nice job, too, which seems odd because he's not a capes 'n' tights guy, but it's a done-in-one Professor X focus issue, so his style works. I'd stopped buying ULTIMATE X-MEN, but this issue, at least, I picked up just because it's such a cool Xavier story. Practically could've been set in the mainline Marvel Universe, even. In fact, I'm going to pretend it was.

  • April 14, 2005, 2:20 p.m. CST

    Insulting Bryan Hitch's art is like....

    by Shigeru

    um shit i can't think of a simile! But it's dumb nonetheless. The reason for the photo ref is a great one; so we can tell apart characters other than hair color/costume that they're wearing. Unlike some other lauded artists.....

  • April 14, 2005, 2:29 p.m. CST

    Oh, Hitch is very talented...

    by Dave_F

    More hardcore realistic than I care for, and YES, a little heavy on the photo-referencing (though better with the integration than Greg Land)...but he's good. Maybe even great. Mostly I just want him to bring some *imagination* to his characters after the initial photoreferencing. As an example, David Mazzuchelli modelled the young Bruce Wayne on a young Gregory Peck in BATMAN: YEAR ONE, but he wasn't so slavish to the inspiration that readers spent the whole miniseries thinking, "Bruce Wayne is Gregory Peck!" With Hitchy, some of his guys are so close to their models that it's distracting, the Fury/Sam Jackson connection being the most obvious. And really, who wants to be reading a superhero comic and suddenly they're looking at the pretty-boy mug of Tom Welling, not a skin pore out of place? Not me, man.

  • April 14, 2005, 2:32 p.m. CST

    well then maybe you should stop watching Smallville.

    by Shigeru

    Cause I didn't notice in the slightest that it was him. Plus, I heard it sucks.

  • April 14, 2005, 2:35 p.m. CST

    sorry

    by Shigeru

    feeling a bit argumentative today

  • April 14, 2005, 2:44 p.m. CST

    re: Steve Dillon

    by Gus Nukem

    thanks for the reply Dave. I ordered this issue because of mr. Dillon and it won't arrive for another 2-3 weeks. Since every review I read about it don't mention him, I was worried - only to find out marvel.com not mentioning him as well. oh well, i'm looking fwd to it. SOOO, anyone know what to expect from the prodigiously talented Mr. Dillon in the future ?

  • April 14, 2005, 2:46 p.m. CST

    doesn't mention him , mea culpa

    by Gus Nukem

  • April 14, 2005, 2:46 p.m. CST

    S'all good. Arguing's good.

    by Dave_F

    And I haven't watched SMALLVILLE since the first few episodes, but that damn thing just saturated pop culture for a while, so Welling's doe-eyed noggin stuck in my head. Personally I think Hitch should've modelled Loki after Chloe or Lana.

  • April 14, 2005, 2:49 p.m. CST

    Dillon 'n' Ennis

    by Dave_F

    Aren't they supposed to have some new project for Vertigo one of these days? 'Zat still on the books? Sleazy, you're the one who keep up with this stuff - make with the gossip!

  • April 14, 2005, 2:50 p.m. CST

    And Cap looks so much like Brad Pitt in some panels...

    by sideshowbob

    You'd think Hitch would have an unhealthy man-crush on the guy!

  • April 14, 2005, 2:54 p.m. CST

    slow weeks

    by sideshowbob

    Not much doing this week and last, helped along by a snowstorm in Denver that delayed my comics. I sure do hope Athiest and Mnenovore are worth it...I need my escape route from the Big 2 handy before the megacrossovers hit this summer.

  • April 14, 2005, 3:04 p.m. CST

    Hitch's art

    by bizarromark

    My biggest beef with Hitch's art, as I recall, is his tendency to give most of his characters slightly slanted eyes. Not a problem when the character is supposed to have Asian features (like the Wasp), but it's strange to see so many of Hitch's characters have that same cast to their eyes. Bizarre.

  • April 14, 2005, 3:20 p.m. CST

    sinewave - Fishnets

    by mbeemer

    "I think I made the post that Zzub is referring to about how stupid it is for Black Canary to fight in fishnets, which it is. Granted, she does look yummy in 'em, but damn it's impractical. Where's the protection?" ============================= I think you've answered your own question! The "protection" lies in distracting her mostly male opponents! They're too busy staring to duck away from the roundhouse kicks... <g>

  • April 14, 2005, 5:05 p.m. CST

    Ennis and Dillon's Vertigo project...

    by SleazyG.

    ...is something they've supposedly been developing for over a decade. It's supposed to be a straightforward story about relationships. No superpowers, no jaws blown off, no word of god, nuthin'. Just some guys trying to do the right thing in their daily lives (and probably screwing it up). It's supposed to be a pretty personal project. This is actually my dream project from Ennis, since I think what he actually does best are the quiet moments where a coupla guys sit down over beers and shoot the shit, gradually working their way around to what's really bothering them and why. Ennis is fantastic at those little moments that define our lives--I think it's actually what he does best. I've been looking forward to this rumored series for years. It was officially announced at Wizard World '03, though, so it's clearly being worked on behind the scenes while the two focus on higher visibility projects like Ennis' vastly-improved PUNISHER run. As much as I'd like to think the project (I forget the name, it's been so long--CITY STORIES maybe? I dunno) would show up this year, it's been so long coming that I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't hit the shelves til '06. Which makes me sad.

  • April 14, 2005, 6:27 p.m. CST

    I don't have the latest Ultimates yet.

    by rev_skarekroe

    But Loki sure didn't look like Tom Welling in the last issue. At least not to me.

  • April 14, 2005, 6:30 p.m. CST

    City Lights ... and 303 is a classic

    by Gus Nukem

    303 : excellent war comic

  • April 14, 2005, 6:40 p.m. CST

    Dillon not the UItimate Artist

    by Homer Sexual

    I was disappointed all around with the latest issue of Ultimate X-Men. I think Dillon is THE artist ever to draw Hellblazer, and he was perfect for Preacher. But I did not care for his art on UXM and I thought the story was sub-par as well. But I really wanted to echo Sideshow because, although I love Zatanna, this was the weakest of the Seven Soldiers stories, and I agree that it is due, as Dave F said, to the mystical mumbo jumbo that really is Morrison's Achilles heel. Regarding the fishnets debate, I guess they are ok on Zatanna, appropriate enough for the character, but not for Canary. And I think fishnets, in general, are very slutty. But I am homo, so what do I know? GLA: Good book, but I was very sad by the death of that character. Finalmente, I bought the $3.99 New Avengers 1-3 plus issue 4, and it was kind of good. It had Daredevil, but he didn't join. And I think Bendis does a good Spider-Man. However, I won't be picking up more issues because A. The first three collected seemed like one good issue, and B. Wolverine is coming on board with issue 5. However, I really love Luke Cage and Jessica Drew, they may be my all-time 2 favorite Marvel characters, so I guess I'll pick up the next threefer, if there is another one.

  • April 14, 2005, 6:49 p.m. CST

    Minorities In Comics

    by sakinnuso

    I just wanted to draw the crowd's attention to the newest Color Commentary over at PopCultureShock/Buzzscope.com. Mr. Hudlin was kind enough to comment on the message boards when we posted the first edition. Now we have our follow-up. I think that the meatiest part of the piece was in the message boards, however. This site gets a LOT of attention from Marvel and DC, so please offer feedback - good or ill. Voice your opinion. Please be active. http://buzzscope.com/features.php?id=926 --Shola Akinnuso

  • April 14, 2005, 7:16 p.m. CST

    i'm in a rush so i'll just say

    by Fantomex

    fishnets are silly. 100% of the time.

  • April 14, 2005, 7:25 p.m. CST

    RE: Fishnets

    by the G-man

    In the case of Canary I always assumed they were some sort of mesh body armor. Where I thought her costume was silly were the stilleto heels, dinner jacker and low cut bustier.

  • April 14, 2005, 7:41 p.m. CST

    See, and that's why I asked *you*, Sleazy.

    by Dave_F

    You know stuff.

  • April 14, 2005, 7:48 p.m. CST

    Okay

    by Ribbons

    So I'm prepared to be bombarded with waves of invective after this, including some from people who'll feel it incumbent upon themselves to be total assholes, but here goes: I'm pretty sure Brian Michael Bendis doesn't get a fair shake around these parts. I know that the @$$holes try to be pretty even-handed with most writers, even "heavies" like Grant Morrison, but he's the butt of most jokes on TalkBack at least, and probably most of them in this weekly as well. It's not my weekly, fair enough. I'm not trying to tell anybody what to do (directly), I just don't understand it. He's got some pretty glaring flaws as a writer, his dialogue can be extremely ostentatious and grating sometimes, but he's also undeniably talented. So why's he public enemy number one (okay, number two behind Chuck Austen)? You'd think the man was destroying comic books just because he writes "for" paperbacks. I don't even think it's a conscious decision on his part; now that might be naivete (or "idiocy" for the more sardonic among us) on my part, but in any case, I don't think it's something to be concerned with. Good old-fashioned, meat-and-potatoes storytelling will never die, nor will it probably ever be subsumed by writers who model themselves after Bendis. It veers towards the "raping my childhood" lunacy that dominates most of the 'Star Wars' TalkBacks. I will say something: if people start TRYing to write like Brian Michael Bendis, I'd be supremely pissed off as well. There's something to be said for a concise story that's easy on the word bubbles. But as Bendis is arguably the first of his ilk, I'm okay with it thus far. The comics industry just has to do a good job of discouraging copycay writers. Does that make sense? Whatever. There are my two cents.

  • April 14, 2005, 8:57 p.m. CST

    BigBadClone, about Peter David's BigBadLockjawFuckup...

    by Dave_F

    Eh, I wouldn't quite call it a "throwaway gag." It might've only been a one-page explanation, but it still rates as a retcon (albeit one that, yes, could be ignored...unless any *other* writer decides to follow up on it). For those interested, here's a page that has a fuller overview of the situation and relevant panels all around: http://www.ffplaza.com/commcenter/articles/Lockjaw.shtml What I'm curious to know - and my old-school FF knowledge is a bit shakey, so maybe Bizarromark can help? - is whether the Inhumans have indeed always treated Lockjaw like a dog. I mean, are they shown throwing him frisbees in old FF's? Do they say, "Here boy!" when they call him? Or is it just possible that when folks say, "They always treated him like a dog", they really mean, "Well *I* always assumed he was a dog and so I just *assumed* they treated him like one...even though I can't actually cite a scene where they notably did." In my hazy memory of the character's past appearances, I suppose I think of the FF and Inhumans as treating Lockjaw like a smart, Disney horse who understands English but doesn't speak it, which, given that Lockjaw's physical form pretty much requires certain animalistic behaviors, doesn't seem particularly out of order. Anyway, some hard evidence would be nice.

  • April 14, 2005, 9:01 p.m. CST

    BMB

    by JonQuixote

    Fair shake? I dunno, man. Vroom and Dave are both - to varying degrees - Bendis fans and give him reviews that vary widly depending on the issue at hand. Buzz was a Bendis-neophyte and went on a Bendisathon earlier this year where he decided that he liked most of the books and the most annoying thing about Bendis was actually the legions of yes-man fans that get rabid the moment somebody criticizes his work. And then there's guys like Bug and myself who just don't care for him and think he's drowning in McKee worship and his many, many other bad habits...but I haven't reviewed anything for the past six months (and my wrists feel great!). I think that's a pretty fair shake. 3 of our 4 most prolific reviewers give Bendis regular praise. Maybe it's just that the criticisms are loud and growing? As for me though, from recognizing that his inane dialogue is now officially self-parody; to the fact that his books all employ the same damned structure, tricks and feel; to getting glimpses of an (online?) personality that comes across as insecure repugnance (note the way he turned on Randy of the FourthRail the moment that the guy noted for his regular 10/10 Bendillingus gave him a crappy review for Disassembled, calling him crazy and making nasty personal insinuations. Yuck), to the fact that I was a monstrous momma-jamma Hawkeye fan (ha!)...yeah, it's fair to say that I don't really don't like the guy and what he's doing in the Marvel playground. *** And I'll still go on the record as saying that NEW AVENGERS ain't that bad. How much more fair do you want??

  • April 14, 2005, 9:03 p.m. CST

    Lockjaw

    by JonQuixote

    Didn't the Jenkins INHUMANS series pretty much treat Lockjaw as a dog?

  • B-Mark's right about Hitch's "Asianing up" characters on occasion, and the phenomenon occurs in the most recent issue ta boot....on the Tom Welling lookalike no less! And the best thing is, this discussion offers me the perfect opportunity to bring up one of the all time funniest comic book transformations. Witness the "Asianizing" of the man called...Dr. Droom! http://www.toonopedia.com/droom.htm

  • April 14, 2005, 9:10 p.m. CST

    Lockjaw & BMB

    by sideshowbob

    I always thought they treated Lockjaw as an equal, not as a dog. Though it's been a while since I read those things. I mean, I think they said "thank you," not "good boy!" when he teleported them around. *** I think only Ambush Bug is the official Bendis-hater around these parts. On my end I stated here a few weeks back that he can't write superheroes, and his unwillingness to adapt to different material is incredible, given his obvious talents. BUT...Daredevil is my favorite current Marvel book by a mile, at least until they give my man Dan Slott an A-list book. In fact, maybe they should give Dan Daredevil when Bendy's done. Yeah...Dan Slott and Cameron Stewart on DD. I gotta go write Marvel now!

  • No offense against TalkBacker Sinewave - fer real - but I can't stand it when folks get obsessive about superhero costumes being realistic. The end result of that line of thinking is the utterly forgetable costumes we're seeing in books like SUPREME POWER (and Gary Frank's a fine artist, but those costumes are for shit...boring even for a "realistic" setting). Me, I like superheroes in TIGHTS - characters who, through their skill (Batman, Black Canary) or special abilities (Spidey's spider-sense and agility, Cap's super-soldier speed) manage to stay out of the the way of guns 'n' knives 'n' shurikens and don't really need to *worry* about protection. Nobody in the real world is that good, but these guys and gals ARE. Now I won't throw a fit if Batman mentions something about his costume being made from ultra-flexible kevlar or nothin', but I know that the most "realistic" Batman I've ever seen was in BATMAN: YEAR ONE...the story where artist David Mazzuchelli drew him as, you guessed it...a guy in tights. Speaking of Mazzuchelli, this very week he contributes a terrific afterward to the new BATMAN: YEAR ONE hardcover. It's actually "written" in comic book form over the course of several pages, and even touches on his ambivalence toward the realism and grittiness the project ushered into the mainstream. A relevant passage: "Frank wrote THE DARK KNIGHT in a fortissimo, operatic mode. But he recognized that my strengths as an artist were more attuned to the mundane. So with YEAR ONE, we sought to craft a credible Batman, grounded in a world we recognize. But did we go too far? Once a depiction veers towards realism, each new detail releases a torrent of question that exposes the absurdity at the heart of the genre. The more 'realistic' superheroes become, the less believable they are." Tell 'em, Mazz! And I frickin' LOVE the conclusion he comes to after that, but I won't spoil it, opting instead to give a huge recommendation that everyone go out and buy this gorgeously-produced new hardcover right now! Even reprinting the text of what Mazzuchelli writes fails to do it justice, 'cause I can't reproduce his accompanying visuals. **** Bringing the whole thing back to fishnets, though...for Zatanna, it's obviously part of the sexy magician motif, so of course they stay. 'Sides, she's got magic and don't need no stinkin' kevlar! As for Black Canary...I don't mind dropping 'em on her if the feeling is that they're a little too T&A for the character as she continues to come into her own (I've liked just about every iteration of her non-fishnet BIRDS OF PREY costumes), but fer God's sake, never ditch 'em because they don't afford protection! I mean, y'all see what Robin used to wear (and wore even in DARK KNGIGHT)? A shirt, some green undies, and a pair of elf-boots. Know this: protection's for candy-ass wusses, not ass-kicking superheroes armed with jiu-jitsu and backflips and shit.

  • April 14, 2005, 9:46 p.m. CST

    Am I the only one who didn't like GREAT LAKES AVENGERS?

    by Dave_F

    And you know I like Slott, but I couldn't get into the snarkier, darker humor he had going on in GLA #1. The funny didn't give me the ha-has, the drama didn't make me go "aw, cool." Nice art, but I give this one a pass.

  • April 14, 2005, 10:31 p.m. CST

    Jon Quixote

    by Ribbons

    Thanks for laying things out, I guess. I can't tell whether or not you were offended by what I said, but you're certainly within your rights, although for the record, I didn't mean to be difficult. As far as the @$$hole go: uou'll notice I DID acknowledge that the impression of his persona non grata probably came more from the TalkBacks than the actual reviews themselves (although he is probably the butt of more jokes in both arenas than anyone else). I am pretty sure that one of you is pretty consistently critical of the man if only because I notice that he and that SeeThroughThis dude always get into arguments. As for the legion of "rabid" (as you oh-so-delicately put it) yes-men fans of his, I don't know if that was a swipe at me, but I'm not exactly what you'd call a "yes-man" fan. I think I tend to sympathize with him when after exposure to the online community because of a sort of underdog complex (hopefully you'll take that for what it means without misconstruing it; I know he has the keys to the proverbial kingdom) that I have, but the man's far from infallible. I agree that it can be a chore reading his comics at times ("New Avengers," I think, is a good fit for him because he basically selected characters that he gets), not only because of his overly-stylized ("realistic," he would tell you, although when Spider-Woman said "These are Entemann's donuts. They are awesome." to a prison full of super-psychos I think my soul died a little) dialogue but because some of his issues are frightfully dull (by the way, the only comics of his I read are "Powers," "Ult. Spider-Man" and "New Avengers," so I can't speak to anything else). As for the plot structure and moral fiber of the man, I'm ignorant to both of them, but it's not your responsibility to enumerate what about them irks you. I guess I don't see the big issue with his presence the way that you do (although I'm also pissed he killed the Hawk-man). But I do thank you for responding to me and I guess organizing everything into an informative response. Oh yeah, and it just occurred to me that I don't know where I was going with any of this. I guess he gets a fairer shake than I had figured before, but I'm still left wondering why people treat him like a weed in Marvel's garden. Maybe I should do some more web-based research on the man to see if I should be "not caring for" him as much as other people "don't care for" him, but I'm probably too lazy for all that crap.

  • April 14, 2005, 10:39 p.m. CST

    Eh

    by Ribbons

    Made a bunch of typos when I wrote that last post. Sorry.

  • April 14, 2005, 11:35 p.m. CST

    Savvy article on the popularity of angst-fests like IDENTITY CRI

    by Dave_F

    I'm jealous that I didn't write this... http://www.ninthart.com/display.php?article=1020

  • April 15, 2005, 12:13 a.m. CST

    my fishnet stories

    by Fantomex

    I feel compelled to point out that issue of Birds of Prey not that long ago where the character goes to a visit a father (whose daughter had just dieD) while wearing fishnet stockings. GRIEVING FATHER. FISHNET STOCKINGS.

  • April 15, 2005, 12:46 a.m. CST

    PETER DAVID'S RESPONSE TO AICN COMPLAINTS....

    by Col. Klink

    So if anyone who DOES have access to AICN wants to reprint this entry or refer people to this site, I just wanted to make things clear: For what it's worth, I didn't give a damn about the Byrne story one way or the other. I thought it wasn't bad; not great, but not bad. It did, however, frost the flakes of several writers and the "X-Factor" editor, basically because Byrne's story made the Inhumans look like assholes. John Byrne, foremost advocate of adhering to creator intent, ignored not only sequences where Stan and Jack had the Inhumans referring to, and treating, Lockjaw as their pet or dog, but the subsequent decades worth of continuity that did the same. So, since Quicksilver was going to be in "X-Factor," the writers--and the editor in particular--asked me to take the opportunity to undo that development as quickly and simply as I could. I shrugged, said, "Okay, boss," and did so. Now Rick Jones laughing off the Skrull involvement in the Hulk's origin during an issue of CAPTAIN MARVEL...that was all me. PAD

  • April 15, 2005, 12:49 a.m. CST

    Ribbons

    by JonQuixote

    I wasn't offended nor sniping at you. For example, while Bendis has many "yes-men" fans, your initial post made point of mentioning "glaring flaws". You seem pretty even-handed. Good post and I hoped to respond in kind, y'know?

  • April 15, 2005, 1:26 a.m. CST

    I liked ZATANNA more than most of you, I guess.

    by SleazyG.

    I found it very easy to follow, and Morrison's magickal stuff wasn't that hard to get my head around. Of course, the ideas aren't that new to me either, and I don't shy away from this stuff the way a lot of readers do. I thought it was pretty clear and straightforward, though, and filled with enough fictional elements not to feel like a primer the way PROMETHEA often did (not that I'm knocking it, since that was Moore's intent). Also, y'all should keep in mind that Morrison's been practicing this stuff a lot longer than Moore has, if memory serves, so it's not like he's a novice talking out his ass. No sir, he's an informed expert talking out his ass--but again, that's intentional on his part.

  • April 15, 2005, 2:04 a.m. CST

    I'm sorry...

    by JonQuixote

    ...for that whole jagged things rectum comment. I was being capricious, but that's the sort of internet raving that I should try to steer clear of. But I think - and again I find myself in the uncomfortable position of defending John Byrne (no, a John Byrne story. Yes, that's more palatable) - that there's a big difference between what Byrne did to Lockjaw, which may not have adhered exactly to "Stan & Jack's" original intent, whatever that is (I never got a copy of their Lockjaw bible) but is the sort of expanding that any writer needs - or at least wants. The FF and the Inhumans were Byrne's province at the time and there was nothing radical or disrespectful. (And for the record, my first exposure to the Inhumans other than maybe Marvel Universe Handbooks or Marvel Sagas was in that comic. They didn't come across as assholes. They came across as alien and interesting, but not assholes. Quicksilver was the asshole, not the strange race of superhumans that was reacting according to their customs. Jeez, I was 7 years old at the time and I could figure that out.) As far as I can tell, there's nothing really incongruous with the previous appearances of Lockjaw either, I seem to recall an explanation or later take that his transformation also included him adopting a dog-like demeanor. *** Anyway, what David did was piss on somebody else's story simply because he (or his Officers) didn't like it. In my opinion, playing the dumb helpless soldier here is a crummy way to pass the buck. I hope he's as "magnanimous" at praising the people responsible his editorially driven writings that were met with positive response

  • April 15, 2005, 2:38 a.m. CST

    I think they said "thank you," not "good boy!" when Lockjaw tele

    by vroom socko

    Actually, I do remember a "Good boy." being sent Lockjaw's way after a teleport. Of course, if I recall correctly it was Quicksilver that said it. Then again, it also happened in (dun dun DUNNNN!) an issue of Avengers West Coast written by John Byrne!

  • April 15, 2005, 2:55 a.m. CST

    as for @$$holes and Bendis...

    by vroom socko

    I actually talk to the guy in person from time to time, and I've told him to his face on occasion that he's made some mistakes. And you know what he did in response? No, he didn't rip me in half, he actually debated the story with me, and while he didn't change my mind he respected my opinion. And he LOVES talking about stuff like that. He LOVES debating comics! As for his "yes-men" fans... well, any popular creator's going to have some. And thanks to the internet...

  • April 15, 2005, 6:29 a.m. CST

    Jon Quixote

    by Ribbons

    Thanks for the complimento. So yeah, I'm glad things got cleared up a little. ********** Now if I may throw my hat into this Peter David debate, I think that writing over other people's work it pretty obnoxious as well. Especially with something like Lockjaw's original identity, which could have been ignored easily enough by people who didn't like it.

  • April 15, 2005, 9:01 a.m. CST

    I didn't like GLA either, Dave.

    by rev_skarekroe

    The squirrel got on my nerves, and I didn't think any of the rest of it was funny either. Immortal Man's origin was pretty cool though, and... Oh who am I kidding, I only read the online preview.

  • April 15, 2005, 9:05 a.m. CST

    There once was a time...

    by Shigeru

    When I thought Bendis could do no harm, really. For me, at least, he came onto the larger scene right around when I got seriously back into comics and was actually excited every wednesday to get new stuff. He had a bit of a midas touch back then, and we were amazed that he could write that many books and stay in top form. The kind of turning point with me would be when "Ultimate Six" was released, I viewed it as Joey Q getting over-excited with Bendis and trying to force him into things just for sales sake (Crossovers, anyone??). It all kinda slid downhill from there... I still read and love DD and Ult Spidey, but I was real turned off with the Avengers fiasco. Remember that Wizard article where they called him the next Stan Lee?? An interesting comics personality and talent to say the least...

  • April 15, 2005, 10:21 a.m. CST

    Inhuman treatment of Lockjaw

    by bizarromark

    Dave said: "What I'm curious to know - and my old-school FF knowledge is a bit shakey, so maybe Bizarromark can help? - is whether the Inhumans have indeed always treated Lockjaw like a dog."______I own, in some form or another, Fantastic Four #1 through #300....and nowhere in that vast span of issues did the Inhumans, the F.F. or anyone else in that crowd imply that Lockjaw was anything other than an animal. An incredibly powerful and intelligent animal (as well as humorously stubborn)....but still an animal. I find it hilarious that John "Do No Harm" Byrne bulldozed right over this reality with that "Lockjaw: Former human" business. Not exactly a story that was crying out to be told, was it?____Speaking of pets.....has anyone noticed the alarming absense of pets (with the exception of Lockjaw) throughout Marvel's long history? Other than Lockjaw....who do we got? DC, on the other hand, has a virtual petting zoo of dogs, cats, horses and primates throughout their history. Are there obscure examples of Marvel pets I'm overlooking....or is Marvel "anti-pet"? Just when you thought the comics biz didn't have ENOUGH controversy!

  • April 15, 2005, 10:26 a.m. CST

    My biggest complaint with Ultimate Spidey...

    by Fuzzyjefe

    is that villains don't just "show up" and wreak havoc, leaving Spider-man to wonder what the hell just happened and what exactly was that dude's beef, anyway. Bendis seems to want every villain (excepting the throw-away, one-pagers like Shocker and Killer Shrike) to know who is behind Spidey's mask and vice-versa. I know he thinks the concept of secret identities is dumb, but it's part of the superhero mythos. Can we not have a villain or two who hate Spider-man because he beat the beejesus out of them, and not because Peter Parker "killed my daddy, stole my girlfriend, and took first place at the science fair..AGAIN!!!"? I mean, even Kraven (who was just after a little fame to start with) now knows who Spider-man is (I could be mistaken; been a while since I read Ultimate Six). And I realize angst and self-doubt are Spidey's forte, but it would be okay if he took some joy out of being able to swing around and kick criminal ass. That's part of it too. Okay, end of rant.

  • April 15, 2005, 10:27 a.m. CST

    Nowhere did they imply Lockjaw was anything but an animal

    by JonQuixote

    Yeah, umm...isn't that what made the ending of THING #3 so powerful?? Isn't that kind of the point?

  • April 15, 2005, 10:29 a.m. CST

    Marvel has one of my favorite comic pets bizarromark:

    by Fuzzyjefe

    Lockheed. Although he's almost a team member.

  • April 15, 2005, 10:32 a.m. CST

    Also, Ultimate Professor X has a cat.

    by Fuzzyjefe

    Though I honestly think Millar may have been planning to have that cat be Mystique, what with that curious, diamond-shaped spot on its head. I don't know if anyone else has done anything about ultimate Mystique, as I stopped reading Ultimate X after Rogue took off with Gambit. It was a little too much of "how fast can we cram all these characters into this universe" for me.

  • April 15, 2005, 10:37 a.m. CST

    I don't care if it made the Inhumans look like assholes

    by Fuck You Moses

    1. It was a cool story, and made Lockjaw a little something more than a big dog, and 2. the Inhumans are - duh - INHUMAN. They don't act like us, and it might be perfectly normal from their perspective - if pretty nasty and cruel from ours - to treat Lockjaw as a pet once his "condition" set in. Retconning shouldn't be done lightly, and I don't think it was done lightly by Byrne. Yes, the Inhumans ended up more alien in the end, but for fuck's sake, they're *supposed* to be. ------- As to David himself, I think he often has interesting ideas, but 1. his sense of humor is way too cutesy, and 2. he's waaaaay too fond of Rick Jones. I'm ambivalent on his return to the Hulk, simply because he was on that book for so damn long that it deserves to get a good writer that *isn't* him. I mean, what more does he have to do and say on the Hulk that he hasn't said before? The one advantage to the big company scheme whereby different artists and writers are swapped out on different books is that you get to see different takes on the same characters. I want to see a new take on the Hulk that isn't crap.

  • April 15, 2005, 10:49 a.m. CST

    Not to defend the Byrne Lockjaw thing...

    by superhero

    But who is to say that even most of the Inhumans didn't know that Lockjaw had been "human" at one point or another? Has Lockjaw's age ever been explored? Is he older than Blackbolt and Medusa? What I'm saying is, couldn't Lockjaw have been exposed to the mists long before any of the current cast of Inhumans were born so even they wouldn't know that he wasn't an animal? I'm not an Inhumans expert so can someone else tackle this? Is Lockjaw one of the older Inhumans?

  • April 15, 2005, 10:59 a.m. CST

    RE: Ultimate Professor X's Cat

    by Ravenwing263

    Xavier actually referred to it as "Mystique" in Millar's last issue, and I don't think the cat has been seen since then. No Ultimate Mystique has ever appeared except that cat, although she was actually going to be an X-Man in the original conception of the series.

  • April 15, 2005, 11:01 a.m. CST

    Peter David's second response

    by Ravenwing263

    Following up on AICN, quoted merely in part: "Anyway, what David did was piss on somebody else's story simply because he (or his Officers) didn't like it. In my opinion, playing the dumb helpless soldier here is a crummy way to pass the buck. I hope he's as "magnanimous" at praising the people [who were] responsible [for] his editorially driven writings that were met with positive response. "Well, I was neither dumb nor helpless, and didn't present myself as such. I'd say "indifferent" would be more appropriate. If I'd been a fan of the story, I'd have refused to write the stetcon and no one could have pushed me into it. But I wasn't, so in this instance, I accommodated those who asked me to address it. I'm not passing any buck. My name is on the story. It was my responsibility. I was simply explaining the background behind this particular stetcon. And yes, absolutely--although I know the poster was merely being snide--I've never taken credit for something people praised that originated from someone other than me. When people ask about particular story elements that were either suggested by the editor or put in by the artist, I am 100% consistent with indicating who came up with it. I'm interested in telling people how things came to be, not snagging credit for what they liked and assigning blame elsewhere for what they didn't.PAD

  • April 15, 2005, 11:16 a.m. CST

    OK, Dave, I just read the article on Lockjaw that you posted...

    by superhero

    That Peter David explanation really leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Not to mention it's really bad writing. You're trying to tell me that at a time where a very important debate is raging as to whether to subject Quicksilver's child to the Terran mists someone's going to pull a PRANK to resolve the situation???? And even if they DID pull a prank why would they do so to PREVENT an Inhuman child/decendant being exposed to the mists as had been Inhuman custom for gosh knows how many years? Doesn't the fact that the some of the Inhumans would pull a prank at such a time make them seem MORE like pricks? Of course I don't have the full issue of X-Force to look at so I'm looking at those panels out of context but if that's it then that is some really dreadful nonsensical writing on David's part. Of course a lot of stuff in comics makes no sense but that just really looks like one writer stepping on another's story. And if that was really Peter David responding above...c'mon, blaming your editor even though you say you didn't give a damn about Byrne's story? That's a bit lame don't you think? I still think that the argument could stand that a lot of the Inhumans didn't even know that Lockjaw was "human" at one point. Maybe Lockjaw is several generations older than a lot of his comrades? Maybe when he was exposed to the mists the procedure hadn't been perfected yet and he was an unfortunate "accident" of the early procedure? Maybe the only reason he stepped in with Quicksilver and Crystal's child was because he sided more with Crystal and was concerned with how the process would affect a human Inhuman/Mutant hybrid. I mean does the only explanations that are possible HAVE to be "No, Lockjaw's a dog!", "If he isn't a dog than the Inhumans are scum!" C'mon, let's read between the lines people!

  • April 15, 2005, 11:35 a.m. CST

    Never in my wildest dreams.....

    by bizarromark

    ....did I think there would ever be a fanboy foodfight over a character like Lockjaw. What I *really* want to know is why Lockjaw and Blackbolt had that same little "tuning fork" stuck to their forehead. THAT'S what we need to know RIGHT NOW!

  • April 15, 2005, 11:50 a.m. CST

    They have those "tuning forks"

    by Fuzzyjefe

    'cause they love them some "Car Talk". Those Tappert brothers are whips!

  • April 15, 2005, noon CST

    The Tuning Forks...

    by JonQuixote

    Obviously they have the exact same tuning forks because Lockjaw is Black Bolt's dog. *** Uproar over Lockjaw? I dunno. I really really liked that story. As an introduction (or therabouts) to the Inhumans, it was a grabber - poignant and fascinating. But I think that the greater 'foodfight' comes from something a little higher, a situation where a writer uses their story to trample somebody else's, and - kinda sorta - swipe the investment many of the readers made in it.

  • April 15, 2005, 12:12 p.m. CST

    In all seriousness

    by Fuzzyjefe

    isn't the tuning fork how Lockjaw focuses his teleportation power? I'll throw my hat in the ring by saying I feel ret-conning is a lazy way to make a change or "build on a character". Instead of using what's come before, some like to say -insert event here- happened between these events (see Identity Crisis); or just bulldoze over something else with a "different perspective". Tweaks to history don't bother me as much as complete changes to an established character's identity/origins/motivations.

  • April 15, 2005, 12:32 p.m. CST

    Character Investment Counseling

    by bizarromark

    "But I think that the greater 'foodfight' comes from something a little higher, a situation where a writer uses their story to trample somebody else's, and - kinda sorta - swipe the investment many of the readers made in it. "____Somehow, I think I'll still be able to sleep knowing my "investment" in Lockjaw was "swiped". It's statements like this that make me realize how much of a hermetically-sealed universe many of us fanboys live in.

  • April 15, 2005, 1:14 p.m. CST

    You're right BM

    by JonQuixote

    I should probably save my rabid frothing at the mouth for instances where characters speak fondly of the French. I'll try to do better.

  • April 15, 2005, 1:19 p.m. CST

    Whoops...quick to post

    by JonQuixote

    I liked that story. It hit me in the place that we hope good stories do. I cared about it and its characters and I'm not gonna apologize for that nor made to feel inferior. I'm sorry for responding to your condescension with a shot of my own, but I'll take being me - a guy who can actually invest emotionally in a story - over being you, a guy who apparently lacks the capacity.

  • April 15, 2005, 1:26 p.m. CST

    Well, I don't think ANYBODY'S going to lose slepp over Lockjaw,

    by superhero

    Just because some people took the time to post some little missive about how stories/characters affected them doesn't mean that it's the end all be all to their personal existence. Yeesh. If we post stuff here it doesn't mean that all we think about is Lockjaw or comics. We just had something to say about a certain subject. Now get off your high horse and be nice to people please. :O)

  • April 15, 2005, 1:27 p.m. CST

    I meant sleep, what the heck is slepp?Gosh my typing skills suck

    by superhero

  • April 15, 2005, 1:29 p.m. CST

    I haven't slept since 1994

    by JonQuixote

    The bags under my eyes bounce off my knees when I shuffle around the office. CURSE YOU PETER DAVID!

  • April 15, 2005, 1:46 p.m. CST

    Man, no love for the Bug...

    by Ambush Bug

    "But then again, whenever the Bug is criticized here, he tends to either throw a tantrum or duck out of the argument entirely." Yeesh. Just because I don't participate in the TBs regularly doesn't mean that I'm ducking out of an argument. Just a bit busy, folks. And I think tantrums are the unfortunate fallout of the ambiguity of tone in communicating in text over the internet. As for the Bendis thing. Yes, I've been hard on Bendis in the past, but I also gave him a positive review of DD #50. And I've been quite kind to his NEW AVENGRS story, which I find to be self-indulgent, but entertaining. I think the pro- and con- Bendis reviews are pretty even here. I just don't like the guy's writing style and think that it is better suited for other titles than the ones he is on right now. "I think only Ambush Bug is the official Bendis-hater around these parts." Not a Bendis hater. I don't hate the guy. When I se him at this year's WIZARD WORLD, I plan to say hi. I just dislike some of his work. Some people have trouble distinguishing the two. And as for the Lockheed debate. Stories are reworked all of the time. What was a touching story for some, may be drivel to others. I agree that completely erasing Byrne's Lockheed Former Human story is a bit wrong. But Byrne has practically done the same thing with DOOM PATROL over at DC with nary an explanation. Or care by the public if you look at sales.

  • April 15, 2005, 5:41 p.m. CST

    Oops, I meant Lockjaw...

    by Ambush Bug

    Well, I did.

  • April 15, 2005, 9:39 p.m. CST

    I know this is the comic forum....

    by Fuzzyjefe

    but I feel it is my duty to warn any of you guys what likes the horror movies----the new Amityville Horror is not good. Oh, there are good performances. Ryan Reynolds (who was in Blade 3, and wants to be the Flash--there's your comic connection) was really good as a man slowly losing his mind. The movie just was..not..scary. That's my opinion. Alan Moore wrote more frightening stuff in Swamp Thing. Chuck Austen wrote more frightening X-men stories. This movie was all jump scares. No building tension, no sense of dread. Just a bunch of "OH SHIT! HERE'S A GHOST!" Save your money. Go rent The Changeling.

  • April 16, 2005, 2:50 a.m. CST

    Thanks, Fuzz.

    by Dave_F

    I'm a sometimes horror geek myself, and the new AMITYVILLE was setting off all my warning bells. Always good to have some other poor bastard on the frontline to scope out the enemy =) And I'd also like to take this post to declare that, contrary to popular opinion, the remake of HOUSE ON HAUNTED HILL was a case of good, campy fun.

  • April 16, 2005, 3:19 a.m. CST

    re: Year One *NO SPOILERS*

    by Gus Nukem

    Anybody got the deluxe Year One HC ? 20$, right ? Anybody from Europe got it - how many euros ? Sooo, without giving away any spoilers, do list the extras. Worth buying, if you have the softcover edition ? thanks

  • April 16, 2005, 4:50 a.m. CST

    Gus

    by Dave_F

    I'm planning to review the YEAR ONE hardcover next week, covering all the extras. Keep yer eyes peeled.

  • April 16, 2005, 10:04 a.m. CST

    ok dave, but NO spoilers please

    by Gus Nukem

  • April 16, 2005, 10:24 a.m. CST

    Hey Dave...

    by Fuzzyjefe

    the scariest thing about House on Haunted Hill was the thought that Chris Kattan could actually come back as a ghost. We can't be rid of him even in death...