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So, someone really, really didn't like HITCHHIKER'S GUIDE TO THE GALAXY...

Ahoy, squirts! Quint here... I just wanted to open up a discussion for that big HITCHHIKER'S GUIDE TO THE GALAXY evisceration written by MJ Simpson (who runs fansite Planet Magrathea that hit a day or two ago... Click here to read his Long Spoiler-filled Review or here for his short less spoilerific review. If you don't want to do either, I can tell you he really, really hated the movie.

Now I saw a test screening of THE HITCHHIKER'S GUIDE TO THE GALAXY and while I didn't think it was the greatest thing since sliced bread, I thought the spirit of Douglas Adams was captured well. There was about 10-15% of the movie I had any problem with and that was all in the (to me) forced romance between Arthur and Trillian.

I've become a recent fan of the books, but it seems I'm not on the same level as Mr. Simpson because he spotted things missing that I never even noticed. He goes into detail in his review, showing what is changed in the film, citing specific quoted examples of both the original text and the film version.

I respect Mr. Simpson's love for Adams' text a whole lot and I respect his opinion on the film, but I have to say... the overall feeling I get from reading his reviews is that he's not seeing the forest for the trees. He seems to be really caught up on single lines (sometimes single words!) missing that he may have missed the bigger picture.

But then again, who knows? The cut I saw is now over 2 months old and apparently the final cut has been changed... I wonder if the romance has been removed since Simpson doesn't mention it at all in his very specific critique. I know I had some debate with Moriarty over what I didn't like. He was firmly in the camp that believes that every version of HITCHHIKERS has been different than the one before it, be it the radio play, the stage play, the TV show, various editions of the books and now the film and to just accept those changes as part of the uniqueness of this outlet for telling Adams' story.

The cut I saw felt so very Adams that it overruled my disagreement over the Arthur/Trillian romance and the opening number "So Long and Thanks For All The Fish" is brilliant and a perfect opening to this picture. It sets the tone for the film. At least that's my opinion. I can't wait to see the final cut of the film and see what the filmmakers have come up with, for good or ill. In the meantime, what do you folks think of this whole thing?

Ahoy again, squirts... Shortly after I posted this article I got hit with another look at the film... consider it a kind of counter-point to the hatred of the above linked review:

Dear Quint

Having read the review that was posted about Hithchiker's, and given my inability to use the talk back feature, I would like to say: What a load of ****.

That review is so over the top, and I'm worried it'll put people off this really great film.

I went to the cast and crew screening in London on Sunday, and although it was an audience full of people who kind of HAVE to laugh, I can say that they loved it. I'm not a massive fan of the book, I read it in my youth, and didn't really notice the changes, but I can say this was funny, fresh, very British, and most of all, a film that regular people can enjoy. It's got good characters, funny dialogue, some great visual gags, and a really great feel of love and warmth towards the original material. It's also got a great scope, really making you feel that people laboured on it for a reason, and got the most out of their budget.

The romance is played down, but still there, and yes, it's a bit forced, but overall the narrative makes sense, although the ending's very diiferent and less bleak.

I think that MJ is clearly a huge fan, and I respect the fact that they're upset with the changes. All fans get upset over things like this, Star Wars, comic geeks, Trekkies, we all get in a tizz if things are changed. My best friend, who is a massive fan, saw these changes. And he understood them. And he liked the film for what it is: a film. Not a book on screen. Not a TV show updated. It's still a story that's been made for a different medium. No, not every version's going to be as you want it to be (Although from what I hear of Sin City this could change...), it can't have everything you liked about the book, TV or radio show, but I like the respect the film-makers had for it, the fun they had making it, and the fact that they could make this sci-fi geek still be amazed by the scope and vision the book had when I was a kid. I laughed, I marvelled, and I had a fun couple of hours.

Adams' widow sent a congratulatory letter about the film (I'd love to see Alan Moore do that...), so maybe I was swayed by this sentimentality, but I think Douglas would have been happy with it.

But it's just fanboy bitching, so I'll leave MJ to stew over it. It's not going to please everyone, but it certainly pleased me.

I hope it does well, and I look forward to Restaurant.

Hmmm. I need to have a clever pseudonym.

Pseudo Simon.

(that's shite...)


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  • April 12, 2005, 6:16 a.m. CST

    whatever...

    by kintar0

    I read the first two books, just to see what the hub-bub was all about, and I don't see the love. HHGTTG is certainly no Red Dwarf. I thought is was boring, long winded and dopey. I dunno, it'll be hard to get me to see anything in the theater this summer that isn't called "Revenge of the Sith."

  • April 12, 2005, 6:26 a.m. CST

    The words

    by RichJohnston

    Thing is Quint, MJ's got a damn fine point. HitchHikers isn't about plot. Or character. Or even emotion. It's about words. Douglas Adams was a wordsmith, and it was that he took his pains over. The cantor, the rhythym, the humour from one word placed next to another. There were lots and lots of fun ideas in HitchHikers, but it was the words that turned it from an amusing sci-fi radio sitcom/book/tv series into a work of literary genius, and one of the UK's favourite books ever. I hear Disney are spitting about the prominence of this review. MJ Simpson is Douglas Adams' biographer and has a reputation for knowing moe about Adams life than Adams. MJ has also been an evangelist for this movie, against a lot of criticism. This flip-flop after seeing the movie is really extreme.

  • April 12, 2005, 6:58 a.m. CST

    MJ Simpson's CV

    by RichJohnston

    http://planetmagrathea.com/mjsimpson.html http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1932112170/richjohnston-20/ http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1903047404/richjohnston-20/ http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1904048463/richjohnston-20/

  • April 12, 2005, 7:02 a.m. CST

    As a fellow DNA geek..

    by Karmakin

    Let me say one thing. A frame for frame remake of the original book/TV/Radio/Whatever, would be blasphamy. If they could put EVERYTHING they could in. It would be wrong. So wrong. It's weird. Usually in porting media, you want to keep much of what's in the original story. Here however, the story itself begs you to change it in order to fit the media you're in. It's truly multimedia like that. For Resturaunt, what they should do is comb all his other stuff for various themes, and include them in that. That would make something truly to live up to his legacy.

  • April 12, 2005, 7:07 a.m. CST

    Karmakin

    by RichJohnston

    Karmakin, the HHGTTG story *always* changes. MJ isn't making a case for not doing that - quite the opposite. But it's the unneccassary language changes he has a real problem with. He's not the only one. Adams was all about the correct choices of words...

  • April 12, 2005, 7:25 a.m. CST

    Shrink... Rich

    by Quint

    That 15% comes from my opinion of the test screening cut I saw 2 months ago. The headline refers to MJ Simpson's review. And Rich, while I agree that Simpson has a unique view being someone that knows Adams as intimately as Simpson seems to, how does that nulify my opinion of the film? Simpson was Adams' biographer, so that means his opinion is more important than mine or Moriarty's or the other review we got? My opinion isn't worth any more than his and vice versa. Words are important to capturing Adams' spirit, I agree with you, but HAVING SEEN THE MOVIE, I felt his spirit very much. When you see the film (if you haven't had your mind made up for you by MJ Simpson's review) you can argue its merits with me.

  • April 12, 2005, 7:40 a.m. CST

    Um...

    by RichJohnston

    It in no way nullifies your opinion of the film. Why would it nullify anybody's? Why would anyone suggest it would? It just gives valuable background to MJ's statements this is not just "a huge fan" spouting off (although it is that as well). But it's one who has made professional study of Douglas and his work. I thought that unique view was worth pointing out. Doesn't nullify anyone else's opinion. Nor should it. I'm sceptical that the film will reach the areas of genius that the original sitcom did, as neither the books or TV show were able to, but I look forward to seeing the film and having an opinion of my very own.

  • April 12, 2005, 7:41 a.m. CST

    Literary works....

    by ANGELS-EGG

    ...are different from making a self contained film that has to appeal to general audiences as well as the fans. Mj seems to be extremely Anal...my concerns though how much have they changed so much in 2 months? Has disney taken over and completely ballsed the movie up...because from the trailers alone it looks great to me. The director was a good choice to me...I cant see him doing a dumbed version the way MJ describes it as.

  • April 12, 2005, 7:50 a.m. CST

    Forget HITCHHIKER'S

    by Judge Doom

    EPISODE III will own our collective asses!

  • April 12, 2005, 8:04 a.m. CST

    Me? I like to think Adams knew better than Simpson

    by elab49

    Anal fansites really are annoying. It is one thing complaining that the sense of the story is lost, casting is hopeless - but this level of nit-picking puts the LOTR peeps in perspective. Adams was involved, and I like to think people like Fry wouldn't be involved unless they were content as well. Adams would probably think he was a bit odd too!

  • April 12, 2005, 8:09 a.m. CST

    Worried now

    by Steev

    Have to agree that I'm now worried. I was fearful that half of the fun in previous adaptations was the clunkiness, which sort of added to how British it all was - an overweening fear that out there in space it was still all formfilling and bureaucracy and dreadful bluescreen. I was looking forward to seeing Adams' vision fully realised on a proper budget - but I thought that the lack of boundaries actually might be the worrying factor. Having read Simpson's account of the jokes, they sound truly dreadful - let's hope Simpson's just a little overstressed.

  • April 12, 2005, 8:17 a.m. CST

    Cronenberg

    by Fortunesfool

    Cronenberg said the first thing he does when adapting a book is 'throw away the book'. Dont know about you but the hitchhikers trailer had me in stitches...especially the stuffed toy versions of everyone...its very brief but worth looking out for.

  • April 12, 2005, 8:24 a.m. CST

    Self-important?

    by CellarDoor

    Jesus, the nit-picking prevalent in the full review (soon to be available in pill-form, for those of us too content with our lives) was unreal. And for a pro-writer or whatever why did he do the lazy journo thing and compare it to The Phantom Menace? I smell aggrivated fan, and it's a choking, clawing odour. I think i'll make my own mind up.

  • April 12, 2005, 8:33 a.m. CST

    Simpson can't write for shit.

    by John Maddening

    His biography of Adams is boring and plodding and inane and... Ugh, just read Neil Gaiman's DON'T PANIC, which is great. Try to find an old copy, before Adams died, because it was expanded by Simpson (not Gaiman). I dunno, I have friends who hated LOTR because there was no Tom Bombadil and Aragorn looked too young. Oh well, it's not like the original versions won't still be there on the shelf.

  • April 12, 2005, 9:12 a.m. CST

    You're right, Judge Doom.

    by rev_skarekroe

    In fact, thanks to your posts, I've decided to forego seeing or even reading about all movies besides Episode III for the rest of the year!

  • April 12, 2005, 9:41 a.m. CST

    It's Good however they made a lot of changes

    by Russman

    Fans of the Book and the BBC productions will notice how fast the pacing is - esp. the beginning of it. Personally I don't think they needed to make up the whole "rescue Trillian subplot" and I thought that they didn't have enough of The Guide in it. However, I was laughing at the jokes - even though I knew what was coming next - "Well you see, Zaphod, he's just zis guy, you know?" (yes! They kept that in - as well as the opening theme music - with better titles, no strings holding up the title, however Zaphod never called Arthur a "semi-evolved simian"). You gotta remember that there was a lot of stuff in the books and it would be impossible to faithfully get it all in one movie. As a previous reviewer mentioned, the effects of the Improbablitiy Drive were great and a lot of fun to watch. As I was watching it I could see some of the abrupt cuts where I knew they had to cut things out. ***** I really hope the director will do a special edition and put those parts back in for the DVD. Anyway, I enjoyed it.

  • April 12, 2005, 10:16 a.m. CST

    I'm so glad I didn't read these dorky ass books.....

    by Fart_Master_Flex

    It sounds like I would have had my face punched in if I was caught reading this dork shit in highschool. Now I can sit back in the theater and relax and not worry that lines have been changed or if costumes are different. Fucking geeks.

  • April 12, 2005, 11:09 a.m. CST

    I believe it was a radio play first...

    by Phloton

    ...and the books came after. And there are many differences between the two. I remember listening to the NPR broadcasts back in the olden days and thinking it was the best thing ever. I haven't seen the film yet but I will. At the moment my only complaint is about accents. I'm not fond of the American accents in the film. Something about the absurd dialogue being said with a British accent sound funnier to me. It's a different kind of humor. For example, a Stephen Chow movie couldn't be made as an American film, because it would just seem stupid. But being in an alien tongue from our own makes it more acceptable. That's just my opinion.

  • April 12, 2005, 12:41 p.m. CST

    Hitch somewhere else.

    by HomerGator

    You know, I just finished the 816 page tome of all five of Adam's hitchhiker's books (and an additional short story about Zaphod), and I gotta say, I too do not see what all the fuss is about. Sure, there are a few clever exchanges, but the only ones that work read like Laurel and Hardy who's on first sketches (This reviewer didn't like seeing the bit taken out in the begining of the film about the basement room that the forms were in, ummm, that bit was written for RADIO. Snappy who's on first back and forth, OK on radio. In a movie? BAD). In any event, these books have no payoff for reading them, and get progressively more off track narrative wise. Half the complaints the reviewer gives of the movie, I would give right back to the books. Dropped plot lines, characters introduced for no reason...a massive set of coincidences and deus ex machina devices. Buddy, for being an adams worshipping dick licker, you need to read the books again. They've got massive problems. I for one am glad the movie is NOT like the books. I watched the BBC miniseries and it was awful, from the acting, to production design to everything. Unwatchable. People, read these books again, and then realize that they are failed monty python sketches that are written over 816 LONG thin small typed pages. With the exception of a few well placed jokes, God's message to his people, and a smattering of other items, the books need to be made into movies that make the books INTERESTING.

  • April 12, 2005, 12:49 p.m. CST

    I'm halfway through MJ Simpsons review

    by AlwaysThere

    And everything thing he is mentioning is valid or well thought out. I like MJ's systematic decimation of HGTG, the same way I liked D. Trull's defense of TPM. ---- http://www.lardbiscuit.com/lard/ilovetpm.html

  • April 12, 2005, 1:38 p.m. CST

    I love the books...

    by I Dunno

    ...but maybe that's because I read them as a kid. But even as a kid I knew that it'd be damned hard to make these into movies. There's too much narration and internal dialogue. But I'm willing to give it a chance and even if it sucks, I hope they try again with 'Restaurant'.

  • April 12, 2005, 2:10 p.m. CST

    Well better than Ep III, it will be

    by MinasTirithII

    There is just one movie not to see this summer and that's Ep III, Last of the Dimwits.

  • April 12, 2005, 2:40 p.m. CST

    yikes...

    by MiserableRainGod

    I've been looking forward to this as much as anybody. Hell, I name myself after a character from the 4th book. I, too, just finished the 816 page tome, in preparation for this film - alas that the story was never continued (concluded?). Anyway, this review has me worried. The guy sounds like he knows what he's talking about. This adaptation sounds worse than The Lost World, but at least that film kept the same tone as the book. From this review it sounds like they lost everything. I'll see it, but will my girlfriend know what the heck is going on? Will there be any laughs? Oh man this depresses me. Please Harry, Quint, Mori, Pyul, Herc, Capone, someone see a final version of this film and tell us if it's really this bad.

  • April 12, 2005, 2:52 p.m. CST

    Fuck you, MinasTirithII

    by I Dunno

    Congrats on being the obligatory asshole who has to bring Star Wars into every single Talkback. RoTS is going to kick ass BTW.

  • April 12, 2005, 3:05 p.m. CST

    Someone named fart_master_flex is worried about looking like a d

    by IAmJacksUserID

    Too late, fagface.

  • April 12, 2005, 3:30 p.m. CST

    IT'LL BEAT EPISODE 3'S ARSE OFF!

    by Fugazi32

    ...hopefully :)

  • April 12, 2005, 3:32 p.m. CST

    Jesus, you folks are EVIL

    by Russman

  • April 12, 2005, 3:47 p.m. CST

    EPIII To the Suck

    by MinasTirithII

    I did not bring up EP III, a few other posters did first. Just had to give them a dose of reality and remind them that Star Wars ain't what it used to be, not even to the Kids of this Generation, to which EP I and II were geared towards. But do have fun buying Lucas some more land for the Ranch. I will torrent the damn movie at best and most likely see it 4 days before you do.

  • April 12, 2005, 4:04 p.m. CST

    Ditto HomerGator.

    by Christopher3

    If this movie strikes out, it won't be because it wasn't faithful to the books or radio series. Reading snappy nonstop banter and pithy narration - OK. Listening to 30 minutes worth of snappy nonstop banter and pithy narration at a time - OK. Watching 2 hours worth of snappy nonstop banter and pithy narration compete for an audience's attention with what's onscreen - BAD.

  • April 12, 2005, 4:58 p.m. CST

    some ignorant chickenshit... move over.

    by mproust

    I haven't read the review because I don't want the spoilers. But if this guy hated the movie because of all the ways it was different from the books, then he knows nothing about Douglas Adams or The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. I've been reading these books since I was about 7 years old, and one thing I've learned (this is pretty much public knowledge) is that the stories (which started in the radio version, by the way, NOT the books) HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT IN EVERY SINGLE INCARNATION. The radio show, the novel, the old computer game... they all start more or less the same way but then go in pretty wildly different directions. Douglas Adams was very pleased about this (and in fact he said his favorite version was the video game). So any idiot who sees this movie and complains that it diverges from the plot of the book should be disqualified from all further discussion. What a jerk-off.

  • April 12, 2005, 5:09 p.m. CST

    Jesus, you think by now people would realize that Hitchhikers ch

    by Tall_Boy

    The radio play has that whole plot which goes sideways when Arthur lands on the planet with the Lintilla clones. Personally, I dig it. Anal fanboys are the death of fandom, I tells ya. The DEATH.

  • April 12, 2005, 5:25 p.m. CST

    Agree or disagree, MJ Simpson's review is well-thought and well

    by HanFiredFirst

    ...and less of Harry's references to his genitalia in every damn review he does.

  • April 12, 2005, 5:29 p.m. CST

    PS This film looks like a cross between THE FIFTH ELEMENT and SP

    by HanFiredFirst

  • April 12, 2005, 5:29 p.m. CST

    MiserableRainGod: not laurel and hardy, you mean abbot and cost

    by Bunger

    in your FACE!!! woofwoofwoof!!!

  • April 12, 2005, 5:32 p.m. CST

    er, I mean HomerGator....

    by Bunger

  • April 12, 2005, 7:16 p.m. CST

    Yeah, just like that total miserable bastard Peter Jackson screw

    by BrashHulk

    I'm just sayin', is all.

  • April 12, 2005, 8:08 p.m. CST

    No interest in this one...

    by ComputerGuy68

    Saw the BBC show on PBS as an early teenager and realy enjoyed it. But the trailer did nothing for me.

  • April 12, 2005, 10:22 p.m. CST

    Funny how Simpson has reviewed it...

    by ZeroCorpse

    But NOBODY- Not ONE critic on Rottentomatoes.com has seen this movie yet or reviewed it. Simpson may be special, but I find it dubious that his review is out there and someone like Ebert, Roeper, or any of the other real critics who do this for a living have had the opportunity to review the movie yet. I call bullshit on this one. I think Simpson read the script and looked at some production stills and made up a review.

  • April 12, 2005, 11:20 p.m. CST

    Have you seen the director's "resume"? ONE music video, ONE bit

    by FrankDrebin

    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1134029/

  • April 13, 2005, 12:46 a.m. CST

    Yeah, I've seen it

    by CerebralAssassin

    And Simpson has it wrong. The Vogon poetry scene isn't funny, that is true. But it's not because the word "surrealism" is deleted. It's not funny because IT'S NOT FUNNY. The CONCEPT isn't funny. It's a scene of a grotesque creature spouting off poetry to torture people. Frickin' Preston Sturges couldn't make it funny. The most charitable you can be about the scene is that it's "daffy." The same is true of many scenes in the film. Something that's silly and splendid on the page comes off as bizarre and odd on camera.

  • April 13, 2005, 10:59 a.m. CST

    Don't know if this has already been brought up, but...

    by criderman

    ...I think everyone keeps forgetting or is unaware that Douglas Adams has said that his painful divorce affected his mental state at the time he was writing the later HGTTG books and afterwards he regretted the negative tone--I had the impression that he wished he could go back and rewrite some of the series--myself, I did not like the way the saga ended and it would've been nice if there would've been something between Trillian and Arthur, if even a fond friendship, but I felt Trillian came off as a one-dimensional and ultimately unsympathetic character--I look forward to seeing the movie as I love the long trailer that spoofs movie trailers--veddy British--and when the hell are they going to release Bullshot on DVD?

  • April 13, 2005, 11:23 a.m. CST

    Anyone seen the new lame-ass trailer?

    by Dr. Sid Schaefer

    I caught it on TV last night. It's a short one that makes no mention of the fact that it's a comedy. They're selling it as some sort of sci-fi epic. No shit. I guess the studio's marketing geniuses are getting worried. That bodes well....NOT.

  • April 13, 2005, 12:11 p.m. CST

    Have you seen the 'tards who get their information from IMDb and

    by Calibos's Ginger JewFro

    The Director, Garth Jennings, has made over 15 music videos for artists such as Badly Drawn Boy, Fatboy Slim (Right Here, Right Now) Blur (Coffee & Tea), Supergrass, Beck and R.E.M (Imitaion of Life) as well as several highly succesful TV ad campigns plus the title's for Da Ali G Show and also 2 short films. This all told is probably more than twice the profesional experience than 80% of first time feature directors.

  • April 13, 2005, 5:25 p.m. CST

    Am I missing something?

    by Hamish

    Didn't Adams write most of it himself anyway? The screenplay I mean?

  • April 13, 2005, 8:04 p.m. CST

    Correction (maybe)...

    by criderman

  • April 13, 2005, 8:06 p.m. CST

    Oops! I'll start again, shall I?

    by criderman

    Accidentally posted the last--what I meant to say is I got that info from "The Salmon Of Doubt" and maybe I was wrong about the "divorce" part (I have the book boxed up so I can't re-read it to find the info, I was going on shaky middle-aged memory), but after researching the Net, Adams was planning to write another HGTTG book so the series wouldn't end on a "down note".