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Hi, everyone. "Moriarty" here with some Rumblings From The Lab...

I’d like to quote a certain “FrostySkywalker” from this Jedi Council meeting held well over a year ago:

FROSTY: Right. Well, I’ve heard many times that he’s contractually obligated, and we’ve talked about this, for a PG rating.

I heard much of the same talk from people who worked for companies that had licensing deals with Lucasfilm. Everyone said the same thing. “He’s obligated to turn in a PG rated film.” Yet for almost a year now, Rick McCallum and Lucas himself have been suggesting that the film might be too dark for that rating.

Now, the official decision has been handed down: REVENGE OF THE SITH is PG-13 for “sci-fi violence and some intense images.”

I’m happy to say that all of us who speculated that he’d either try to buy the PG or cut his film to avoid a higher rating were wrong. He seems to have embraced the PG-13, and to that, I have only one thing to say:

Bring it on, George. Bring it on.

"Moriarty" out.

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  • April 10, 2005, 4:37 a.m. CST

    Great News!

    by thedarkone

    Hope this means a better movie than the other prequels.

  • April 10, 2005, 4:38 a.m. CST

    Anyone read that script? If it's real...

    by MyNameDoesn'tFit's lameass. :(

  • April 10, 2005, 4:42 a.m. CST

    That's too bad, I wanted a hard R. Come on, you know you want Ma

    by Grabthars_Hammer

  • ....hmmmm

  • April 10, 2005, 4:51 a.m. CST

    The Script

    by topaz4206

    I saw that script online too, from what I read it could have easily been created from the reviews we've seen already from ShoWest and that other guy. But even IF IT IS REAL, i'm still not worried cause even the ESB script sounds shitty on paper until you see it brought to life. Star Wars has never really been about the written word.

  • April 10, 2005, 4:56 a.m. CST

    Anyone know where the soundtrack is at?

    by Rogue_Leader

    Supposedly the soundtrack is online. Been trying to find some good tracks of it. I love John Williams' music for these films.

  • April 10, 2005, 5 a.m. CST


    by Darth Thoth

    This is definitely great news. Very encouraging. May 19th couldn't get here sooner! I think the best aspect about this rating is not necessarily that we will "see more." But that George does not feel the need to limit himself and his vision to suit little kids. This is just my personal feeling but I think with the original trilogy, at least A New Hope and Empire, the vision was allowed to materialize. It just happened that the films were PG. With Phantom and a little bit with Clones, I felt that George was trying to make a kiddie movie. The PG-13 rating for ROTS shows me that George is not focussed on making a kiddie movie but is focussed on making his vision of a movie. It just happens that it gets a PG-13 rating. I hope this makes sense. Again, this is great news IMO.

  • April 10, 2005, 5 a.m. CST

    In a post PG-13 LOTR era, where ROTK becomes the second biggest

    by Sithlord_999

    and it also equals thankful fans, his real fans, GenX fans, not the 8 year olds for whom he was aiming TPM 6 years ago, or the 11 year olds he aimed AOTC for 3 years ago. Could you imagine a PG-rated LOTR? Audiences DEMAND more that a sugar-coated entertainment. Thank you PJ.

  • April 10, 2005, 5:09 a.m. CST

    The script alas is total ass......

    by Praetor

    But the film should still be a romp.

  • April 10, 2005, 5:23 a.m. CST

    Hey Jackasses

    by PsarevoOmorfia

    Both the comic adaptation and novel are out already. If you want to know if the script is real, go to the frigging bookstore. Durrr.

  • April 10, 2005, 5:42 a.m. CST

    Lucas is still tweaking the movie and it's already different fro

    by Lord_Soth

  • April 10, 2005, 6:05 a.m. CST

    Oh, PJ had a PG-13 rating! Scary talented! Whateva!

    by LordEnigma

    Sorry, but anyone who dislikes Attack have some serious SOLO issues. Any movie where Obi-Wan Kenobi kicks ass majoryly rules all. Then bringing up PJ and CANDYCOATED sort of aggrevates me. Since PJ did not even have the balls to make King worth a damn because all the scenes that would have mattered. Were deemed not "fun" enough. Yeah. Good call there knuckles. The main reason this film HAD to be Pg-13 let me count the ways; *** ***** head on a desk during a major scene. ***** in the foreground in an opening scene. That asshole who gets burnt, and so on. The amount of amputations and beheadings just goes off the charts. This will be the film that shuts the haters up. May 19 cannot get here soon enough.

  • April 10, 2005, 6:17 a.m. CST

    Umm, what?

    by Monkey Butler

    I didn't like "Attack" so I have "SOLO" issues? What does that even mean? And PJ/LOTR was only brought up as an example of a PG-13 film that made alot of money.

  • April 10, 2005, 6:37 a.m. CST

    apparently the link that was up in the talkback momentarily and

    by Trader Groucho 2

    And the folks running this site respect Lucas enough to pull that link quickly. Of course, I'm sure absolutely nobody would ever even THINK of sharing these files through peer-to-peer networking. And I'm only listening like I'd listen to a song on the radio to decide if I want to buy the CD. BTW the new Moby 2-disk set - which I bought at a retail store and paid a retail price for - is strong.

  • April 10, 2005, 6:47 a.m. CST

    Maybe, with PG, we see the gruesome torture and death of Jar Jar

    by moviemaniac-7

    Heh heh heh

  • April 10, 2005, 7:24 a.m. CST

    "I have only one thing to say: Bring it on, George. Bring it on.

    by dastickboy

    Well really, that's not one thing is it? That's several my friend.

  • April 10, 2005, 7:25 a.m. CST

    Heh, all you Star Wars fans...

    by fitzcarraldo2

    You've been booted in the nuts twice in a row and it hurt like hell but you're expecting the third time to be grrrreat!

  • April 10, 2005, 7:47 a.m. CST

    Grievous shoots frist!

    by Judge Doom

    Is it true that grievous is Vader

  • April 10, 2005, 7:57 a.m. CST

    Does this mean that the XXX padme/chewbaca love scene is staying

    by hiperaktiv

    lol he'd Peter North all over her face.

  • April 10, 2005, 8:09 a.m. CST

    You know, I really want this film to be great...

    by JackBurton

    And I really hope that third time's the charm, and Jabba The Neck really nails it this time, but I just utterly refuse to buy into any of the hype this time around. And is it just me or does this whole "pg-13" thing seem to anyone else like nothing more than the latest in a long line of attention grabbing gimmicks? Just the long talked about promise of the 'scary' pg-13 rating reeks to me more of some damn clever marketing and positive spin tactics to help proclaim for all to see and hear that "no matter what you thought of the first two, this one is going to be hardcore" than it does to actually underline anything more significant, like, say, this time around not only are there cool visuals (as expected), but there's far more depth of story and especially character, and it's the narative and the characters that really drive this latest Star Wars outing through and through. Maybe I'm just too cynical in my old age, but I had no doubt this was going to be pg-13, and the fact that it is just doesn't convince me at all that this film is now 'safe' and clearly destined to rock. I hope it is, and I hope it does, I truly, sincerely do, but screw the rating, I'll wait and see how the actual film plays out before I make my judgements or let my hopes get up too far. On the upside, the trailers did look pretty damn cool...I just hope this one truly has the story and character to back those images up and nail them the fuck against the wall this time round, letting the saga bow out on a really high note. Nothing would make me happier in fact. We shall see...

  • April 10, 2005, 8:18 a.m. CST

    It's not surprising and it doesn't matter anyway

    by Rodimus Ben

    The PG rating has been obsolete for quite some time. It seems the MPAA cannot sustain a rating system with five ratings-- three is about the number they can handle. by the end of the 1980s, PG had become the new G, meaning only the most innocent fluff with barely any *conflict* let alone violence, sex or language, would get a G rating. Then by the end of 1990s, the MPAA had become such a whore for parents' groups that they now give PG-13 ratings to many films that would previously have earned a PG. So the trend on severity of ratings swung one way, then the other, and in the process eliminated the middleman. The rating system is ridiculous and arcane, but now they're not even trying anymore. When Whale Rider and The Grudge fall within the same ratings category, you know there's little meaning to it anymore.

  • April 10, 2005, 8:21 a.m. CST

    Breaking News - RobinP has his "Sith" tickets.

    by RobinP

    Heh - no waiting in line at the wrong theater for ME, bucko !

  • April 10, 2005, 8:32 a.m. CST

    Where did you hear this, Moriarty?

    by Shawn F.

    I looked on the MPAA website and they had nothing listed there for the film. Just curious.

  • April 10, 2005, 8:38 a.m. CST


    by droids22

    I'm glad this is getting a PG-13 rating. We had to stomach Jar Jar Binks and robots yelling, "Roger! Roger!" and then that cheesy love story. AND alot of us waited in line for this stuff too! Time to give back to the fans!

  • April 10, 2005, 8:45 a.m. CST

    I've read the hard cover and the graphic novel

    by proevad

    The best story yet in my opinion (of course second to empire) It has more endings than return of the king though. That's not bad however. My only fear now is Hayden's terrible acting, and Lucas not being able to direct any of his actors worth a damn. I hope those Spielberg rumours are true. Plus, I'm sure the best parts of the novel will be cut out of the film, just like Lucas did with the phantom menace. Looking forward to it though. Oh, and by the way it's really short, maybe he'll fill it to two hours with alot of special effects and battles, but it's only about an hour's worth of story there.

  • April 10, 2005, 8:51 a.m. CST

    Nosferatu Jones

    by proevad

    Don't forget Palpatine getting maimed by Mace, and Anakin throwing Mace out of a fucking window. that's some tarantino shit boys.

  • April 10, 2005, 8:58 a.m. CST

    Mace shouldn't have massaged Padme's feet

    by proevad

    He deserved to get his black ass thrown through that window.

  • April 10, 2005, 9 a.m. CST

    Jack Burton

    by proevad

    you could be right of course, but the slaughtering of the young jedi trainees, and post lava anakin really does look messed up and pretty disturbing. but this is lucas we're talking about and he probably will tame it down.

  • April 10, 2005, 9:19 a.m. CST


    by HomerGator

    LOL Man, do you even read what you're writing? Aim it for the gen x fans, the real fans, not little kids? If you really are Gen X, what were the Original Trilogy aimed at? I still do not understand the pedestal that the original trilogy stands on in relation to the prequels. Have you guys watched these movies lately without nostalgia blinders? I love them, don't get me wrong, but they aren't well written, they aren't well acted (With the exceptions of Alec Guinness and Harrison Ford, who, in my oinion, is the single factor that ups the ante of the original trilogy over the prequels), and if Yoda, C3PO, and all of return of the Jedi aren't aimed at 11 year olds and younger, I don't know what is. I really liked the new flicks until I let some people talk them down and ruin my opinion. But then I sat down, watched them again with the original movies, and I love them all over again. Stop turning the original trilogy into the Godfather saga. These movies have ALWAYS been saturday matinee serials. Empire gets the closest to making it work on a higher level. But really, all that's missing in the new flicks that hurts them just a bit is Han Solo. There's no human character we can idtentify with. That, and his comic relief is sorely missed. They tried to make Obi Wan a bit SOlo-ish in attack of the clones, but they know Obi Wan can't be Solo. And they couldn't just sub in a character like him, because then the fans would scream "Oh, he's just a weak copy of Han Solo boo hoo hoo". My friend's 5 year old daughter is just now getting introduced to the Star Wars Universe. My friend showed her the original trilogy, and then the prequels. Her favorite character? Chewbacca, or what she called, "That shaggy monkey". WHen he showed her Phantom Menace, and Jake Lloyd came out, she said "Darth Vader!!!". Menace was her favorite one. Gee, I seem to remember my first, five year old viewing of a star wars movie in a theatre, RETURN OF THE JEDI. That christmas? Ewok pajamas. I even knew my favorite one's name was Wickett. You cynical fan boys who can't even just ENJOY anything need to take a time travel trip, to a time when you werne't so greedy and cynical about it all, and enjoy these flicks for what they are. And if for one second you think the target audiences of these movies are any different than the original ones, you're wrong my friends. Wrong as I was about this movie being rated PG.

  • April 10, 2005, 9:24 a.m. CST

    I read the novel, I thought it was pretty good.

    by I Dunno

    I don't see what everyone's bitching about. It does have a lot of endings but there's a lot to tie up. Anyway, they cut out the Yoda-goes-to-Dagobah scene.

  • April 10, 2005, 9:28 a.m. CST

    I Dunno

    by proevad

    oh dude. i wasn't bitching about the multiple endings. i loved them in return of the king. did he really cut the dagobah scene at the end? fucking figures.

  • April 10, 2005, 9:34 a.m. CST

    All of us..Yes,ALL of us are going to see this movie,

    by jonleeus

    The original came out thirty (almost) years ago, And u just can't front on that.Word to all Ya'lls mothers!!

  • April 10, 2005, 9:36 a.m. CST

    For those who have read the novel (big spoiler maybe)

    by proevad

    i'm confused on something. so anakin was NOT the chosen one to bring balance to the force? The council were all deceived? Qui Gon is actually the chosen one? Because he conquers death and becomes Yoda's and Obi Wan's master? Am i right on this? There's a long exposition in the book, but it's ambiguous at best. (and yes, the midochlorianes or whatever they are called or spelled are mentioned in passing)

  • April 10, 2005, 9:56 a.m. CST

    If you can't already see that.....

    by bigjeffrey

    ....Revenge of the Sith will suck as much as the previous two episodes, you're an idiot and Lucas has you right where he wants you. But the trailers right? What about the trailers? Well, those trailers do get some juices flowing but the trailers for Phantom and Clones did the same! And those films were excellent, weren't they? Weren't they? This one will be as soulless as the previous two, but this time George is going to try and distract you with the darkness (ooooooo the darkness) and the chopping of limbs (oooooooo chopping) and the PG-13 and, ofcourse, the return of you know who. But it'll still suck ass. And there'll be people like Harry and Moriarty who, due to the sudden realisation that this is Star Wars' last big screen outing, will clutch at the few little straws of non-suckiness in the film. But, as always happens, time will show that The Phantom Menace, Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith......S-U-C-K-E-D!

  • April 10, 2005, 10:25 a.m. CST

    So when did death and violence/gore = good Star Wars movie?

    by IAmLegolas

    Man, those first 2 prequels really screwed some of you up in the head.

  • April 10, 2005, 10:29 a.m. CST

    Ignore my post

    by IAmLegolas

    bigjeffrey wrote better what I was thinking.

  • April 10, 2005, 10:32 a.m. CST

    by Fernwick_

  • April 10, 2005, 10:33 a.m. CST

    Mace Windu

    by Fernwick_

    Sorry for the errant post, but I would love to see the following. " Mace, which lightsaber is yours?" The one that says bad motherfucker!"

  • April 10, 2005, 10:33 a.m. CST

    I like star wars.

    by cockknocker

  • April 10, 2005, 10:38 a.m. CST

    I like the way everyone thought he was "contractually obligated"

    by Voice O. Reason

    As if ANYONE has ANY say over a damn thing Lucas does. Who would he be contractually obligated to, exactly? The guy owns the property, and the studio only handles distribution. The toy companies? You mean the ones that make toys based on PG-13 and even R rated movies? This "contractually obligated" stuff was just one fanboy speculating and everyone taking him at his word with no proof.

  • April 10, 2005, 10:42 a.m. CST

    I read the script yesterday in the UK hardback 'Art of ROTS' boo

    by togmeister

    There's a smashing, relentless Act 1 that could top Saving Private Ryan in terms of sustained length of action right at the top of the movie, but most of what i would imagine the rest of the first half consists of more interminable Anakin/Padme claptrap and more endless Jedi Counicl deliberations (the movie stays put on Coruscant, and Palpatine and the Jedi keep trying to use Anakin to play off of one another). This has the potential to play VERY dry, talky and dull on screen, and don't be surprised if you spend the first half of the movie getting fidgety (even if a lot of the political stuff has been cut - i gether Mon Mothma scarcely appears in the finished film). But then, just as my heart was sinking, the movie picks up steam again just as soon as Obi-Wan is sent to hunt down Grevious and Palpatine snares Anakin. The second half should make this by far and away the best of the prequels, but the best of all the Star Wars movies? We'll have to see. Fingers very firmly crossed. Best line comes when Mace tells Palpatine that the senate will deal with him and he snaps back 'I AM the Senate!'

  • April 10, 2005, 10:44 a.m. CST

    Yep, bigjeffery and IAmLegolas are Right.

    by TheJon

    So it's rated PG-13 then? That by no means should make anyone draw to the conclusion that this will be a great film. It just will be more graphic. Shallow and graphic. Hmmmm... I stopped going to see movies in the theater over a year ago. I'm going to go see ROTS in the theater and if it does indeed suck, then I'll never go back to the theater for the rest of my life. I honestly can't stand going to the theater, let's see if ROTS seals the deal.

  • April 10, 2005, 10:59 a.m. CST

    bigjeffrey and IAmLegolas hate the SW prequels so much that they

    by Atticus Finch

    And they will be shelling out their $ to see Revenge of the Sith along with the rest of us, including brobdingnag. Seems to me like they're obsessed with the films so much that they have to talk about them all the time. Maybe they're confused...people say they should "hate" the prequels, yet they can't stop thinking about them. You know what? I thought the first Matrix was shit and...get ready for this...when the two sequels came out I didn't do see them, nor have I, nor will I. Maybe some of you people that "hate" the prequels should move on with your lives instead of obsessing so much that you feel this burning need to post every time there is a SW talkback. The prequels have been fun movies and a great ride for a lot of people. Unfortunately most of the mental giants here judge the feeling of the "majority" by what they read at AICN talkback.

  • April 10, 2005, 11:07 a.m. CST

    So, that'll be a 12A in the UK then...

    by Grando

    ... bah, still have to put up with kids in the audience. Go for a 15 George, keep the kids out!

  • April 10, 2005, 11:14 a.m. CST

    I hope they've used the rating to show how messed-up Anakin must

    by Funmazer

    I mean, that's what everyone's waiting for, right? Not to sound overtly geeky but if you slow mo it when he tosses the Emperor in "Return of the Jedi" you see that practically his whole body, save for portions of his head, neck and maybe bits of his torso, are robotic. I don't see how someone can sustain those severe of injuries in a PG (Ahem Robocop anyone?) and I guess they won't! I'll forgive all the mistakes in 1 & 2 if I get to see a barely human Anakin crawl out of the lava (c'mon, that can't be a spoiler right?) then get rebuilt via a montage of surgeries and roboticically operated machinery, cutting away dead skin and attaching robotic structures to what's left. How much of him can really be left? IE: He obviously has mechnical lungs (assuming these support his remaining organic matter) Regardless, we ALL want to see what Vader is like underneath, Lucas had better show it! Finally, have a shot of a robot doing something unseen (adding clothes, final layer) cut to black: "Lord Vader?" "Yes Master?" "RIIIISSSEEEEE!" then BOOM we see Vader. Fingers crossed!

  • April 10, 2005, 11:20 a.m. CST

    How is bigjeffery right at all?

    by Rapmaster C

    He just comes off as an idiotic "hater", on the already over-flowing bandwagon. If you hate Star Wars, then actually stay true to your word and stay out of Star Wars talkbacks, forums and such. By coming in here and spouting rubbish, it only makes you look like the tool. Is it so hard to believe that people actually liked the prequels? Given their success, I'd say no. As Atticus Finch said, a few people in talkbacks certainly isn't a majority. I for one am looking forward to Revenge of the Sith - 19th May can't get here soon enough. 5 lightsaber duels? Palpatine and Mace in action? The fight that fans have been waiting for, for almost 20 years? I'm there.

  • April 10, 2005, 11:21 a.m. CST


    by Rapmaster C

    Spelt Jeffrey wrong. Sorry.

  • April 10, 2005, 11:26 a.m. CST


    by smackfu

    you forgot Serenity, motherfucker!

  • April 10, 2005, 11:36 a.m. CST


    by screenplaywriter

    I knew they were going to give him the PG-13 rating because the book has so many mentions of decapitation, dismemberment, really dark images, and let's face it Lucas made this to be a epic tragedy. And if you've seen the spoiler pics of Anakin burnt to a crisp, the man ain't a pretty sight to see. He's completely scorched, his limbs are all gone, and his face is probably the only thing that is not charcoaled, or melting. And like somebody mentioned early the younglings are dead. I don't know if Lucas will show their deaths onscreen, or not, but they do die.

  • April 10, 2005, 11:46 a.m. CST

    I agree with whoever said they don't go to the theatre anymore..

    by Yossarian

    Who needs an uncomfortable seat, sticky floors, whites incessantly yammering on their cell phones, and blacks talking in a conversational tone throughout the film.**** Since I splurged and put in a kick ass home theatre, I rarely go to the theatre Anymore and I don't miss it. I stay my ass at home. Anyone else feel me?

  • April 10, 2005, 12:08 p.m. CST

    Damn, move out of the ghetto, guys.

    by I Dunno

    A digital theater in a proper neighborhood will kick ass. As for showing Anakin all fucked up, don't worry. I saw a pic of it and it freaked me out hardcore.

  • April 10, 2005, 12:12 p.m. CST

    Thanks to everyone that pointed out how much we ALL hated those

    by Lone Fox

    Could've sworn they rocked, though. Just means less pricks in the theatre opening night, right? No? Oh, right. See you May 19th fucktards.

  • April 10, 2005, 12:12 p.m. CST

    Keep in mind

    by WolfmanNards

    When the original star wars movies came out there was only G, PG, or R. They certainly weren't R material, so they were all given PG ratings. By todays standards, those films would most likely recieve PG-13 ratings. Modern PG movies are generally kids flicks. Movies intended for an audience of children. The last 2 Star Wars films of the new trilogy were childrens movies, if you ask me. With the PG-13 rating ROTS will be the first star wars film in this new trilogy with a rating that says otherwise. Perhaps this movie will be something close to as good as the original trilogy, which I will say again, today, would recieve PG-13's.

  • April 10, 2005, 12:18 p.m. CST

    What does Vader actually do in this movie?

    by jocutus

    You know, I had always imagined that the legendary Anakin/ Kenobi duel happened before all the jedi were killed. That way, we would get to see him as Darth Vader in full armor assasinating all the Jedi knights. I've been trying to avoid most spoilers but I get the impression from the trailers that he marches into the temple for the slaughter as Anakin and becomes Vader later. So I'm wondering if we get to see Vader (Anakin in armor, that is) actually do anything in the movie. I hope so. So far, it seems like he's just gonna stand there and look badass and say "Yes, Master." I hope not.

  • April 10, 2005, 12:39 p.m. CST

    PG-13 doesn't automatically equal 'good movie'

    by boomstick81

    I know a lot of PG-13 movies that suck also...

  • April 10, 2005, 12:43 p.m. CST

    parents will take their kids to see ep III as long as it doesn't

    by atomheartbrother

    and the grown up spazzes who have waited 6 years for their "adult" star wars film will see it multiple times just to get their undadulterated star wars rocks off. this means episode III will be one of the biggest blockbusters of all time.

  • April 10, 2005, 1:24 p.m. CST


    by TheJon

    Well, some of you have pointed out how others "hate" Star Wars (and question why they bother posting here). You're obviously missing the point, they don't hate Star Wars. I personally love Star Wars, I'll continue to watch the prequels again and again on DVD 'til the end of my days. Nonetheless, they are hollow. Empty. Cool special effects with a nifty overall story arc, nothing more. With that in mind, PG-13 DOES NOT EQUAL A GOOD MOVIE. I can't wait to see ROTS, but more than likely we won't care about the characters at all... yet again. I can't wait to see cool action sequences and Darth Vader in the suit. ...that's it. As for a movie with any emotional impact, ROTS probably will fall flat in that regard. And unlike some of you, I'm prepared for it this time around.

  • April 10, 2005, 1:29 p.m. CST


    by Razorback

    People are such ass hats. Why do these people, who say the prequels suck, still want to see ROTS? It makes no sense... unless you account for the fact that they are LYING. No one goes to see a third movie in a series of movies they hate.

  • April 10, 2005, 1:35 p.m. CST

    So after all the bitching that goes on here about the PG-13 rati

    by Barry Egan

    Fuck this nonsense.

  • April 10, 2005, 1:37 p.m. CST

    But still....

    by Rapmaster C

    Why mention over and over again that you don't like Star Wars? If someone genuinely doesn't like the prequels then thats fine. But as we've seen in other talkbacks, some people like to go on and on about their dislike of a certain film or TV series. I'm not a big fan of Doctor Who, yet I manage to stay out of the Dr Who talkbacks rather than go in and belittle the show. Its very easy to just assume that they're just here to rain on everyone else' parade, due to their behavior and the fact that they try to speak for all of us. And jocutus, I think you're pretty much right in regards to what the suited Vader does in the film.

  • April 10, 2005, 1:39 p.m. CST

    Lucas could film himself taking a shit, and his drones would eat

    by Barry Egan

  • April 10, 2005, 2:06 p.m. CST

    There's a lot of emotional moments in this film. "Jedi Cin" with

    by Orionsangels

    (SPOILERS AHEAD) Obi-Wan & Yoda arrive at the Jedi temple and see all the dead Jedi, including Jedi kids with missing limbs. Listen to the track, "Anakin's Betrayal" and match it to this scene. Obi-Wan telling Padme to stay alive as long as she can to see her twins. Stuff like that. It sounds heartwrenching. hopefully it will be in the movie. The sountrack is just amazing, best work William's has done in years, hopefully the visuals will live up to it.

  • April 10, 2005, 2:09 p.m. CST

    i was wondering the same thing, jocutus ...

    by Toe Jam

    and after having thought it over, i really don't think vader should do anything. the movie should close with a fadeaway shot of vader just as he's being "resurrected." just like in the trailer. i'm not sure why, but i think it'd be wrong to have him actually fight or do anything.

  • April 10, 2005, 2:09 p.m. CST

    VH1's what happened this week, said something stupid...

    by Orionsangels

    They talked about the M&M star wars ad campaign. The segment ends with one of the cynical assholes there saying, Maybe someone will actually go see this one. As if no one went to the last SW prequels, gee they each made over 300million, heck TPM made over 400million, now whether you hate them, think they're crap, worst thing ever, whatever, but to say that no one went to see them? Idiots!

  • April 10, 2005, 2:12 p.m. CST

    The Walrus Man / Ugnaught blowjob scene pushed it to PG-13

    by Baron Karza

    Chloes got nothing on the Ugnaughts suck job.

  • April 10, 2005, 2:21 p.m. CST

    "H8ers" and Talkbacks

    by PianoMonkey

    I disliked very much the first two prequels, and have many warm and fuzzy thoughts regarding the OT. Why does hating the last two films equate to hating the first three? I also don't go to Doctor Who talkbacks. I am not a fan of the good doctor. But I am a fan of star wars, so here I am. I have seen the prequels probably a dozen times each or so, not because I secretly like them, but because I feel that there are enough people who *do* enjoy them that maybe I've just been missing something. I want to like them. Similarly, OF COURSE I'm going to see ROTS in the theater. Nearly everyone here will see it in the theater. That doesn't mean they secretly think it's going to be good--it means they recognize they could be wrong about it being bad. Not everyone who "h8s" the prequels will be betraying an ethos when they shell out 8 bucks (or 11, for you LA types) to see ROTS. Anyway, in regards to the rating news, I can't see it making much difference in the quality of the movie, but it could make for a somewhat more entertaining one.

  • April 10, 2005, 2:22 p.m. CST

    It's not that hard to figure out.

    by one9deuce

    I don't understand all the people saying: "If you don't like how the series is going then don't watch, or post in a talkback". Honestly, if your a sports fan, and your team has a poor season, you don't just stop watching them ever again. Or stop discussing why they sucked last year and what they can do to get back on track. Anyone on this thread that dislikes the prequels (myself included), at least hopes that the next one will be better. And if it isn't, lets not forget that bad movies are pretty entertaining to watch. I personally feel that the Prequel Trilogy is more interesting as the failure it turned out to be than it ever would have been as a success. Watching how George Lucas progressed through his life has a direct parallel to how the Star Wars series ended up, and it has been fascinating to watch.

  • April 10, 2005, 2:29 p.m. CST

    F*ck you Lucas

    by Regenhund

    You can now come to my house and explain to my 7 year old why he can't see the last episode of Star Wars for another 5 or 6 years. What a jerk. I hope you think of all those upset younger kids as your rolling in whatever extra money you think your gonna make from this. <grrr>

  • April 10, 2005, 2:34 p.m. CST

    You can download the soundtrack at...

    by Red Raider _____________I'm not kidding!

  • April 10, 2005, 2:34 p.m. CST


    by PianoMonkey

    You won't take your kid to a movie just because of the rating? It's not Lucas who is keeping your kid from seeing ROTS, it's you.

  • April 10, 2005, 2:59 p.m. CST

    yeh PianoMonkey

    by jpdill

    i concur.

  • April 10, 2005, 3:06 p.m. CST

    We all know that no good movies were made before the MPAA system

    by HanFiredFirst

  • April 10, 2005, 3:16 p.m. CST

    What kind of pussy are you raising, Regenhund?

    by I Dunno

  • April 10, 2005, 3:26 p.m. CST


    by HavocZer0

    There's a difference btwn PG and PG-13? ...where the fuck have I been?

  • April 10, 2005, 3:39 p.m. CST

    Who cares about the rating?! Only one store in my city had Dart

    by Tall_Boy

    Stupid, stupid me. GODDAMNIT! I want my Darth Tater. And the soundtrack CD (want the DVD extras). And the comic. And the novel. That's it. Really. I mean. (ok, maybe a clone trooper action figure, but THAT'S IT!)

  • April 10, 2005, 3:54 p.m. CST

    F*ck you too

    by Regenhund

    I assume, rightly or wrongly, that you three are part of the chorus screaming "no censorship! It's the parent's respomsibility!" Well I'm a responsible parent and my kid does not need to see a bunch of younglings get hacked to bits by the same cute kid who won pod race. Kids grow up too fast as it is, I'm not interested in speeding up the process more. You're right, though, pianomonkey, it IS me keeping my kids from seeing. I hope other parents do the same thing. <woof>

  • April 10, 2005, 3:56 p.m. CST

    thejon speaks the truth

    by reni

    EpIII will be fine. Some of it may even be great. But it won't reach the heights of the originals. So no point worrying. This is probably the last time we'll see a new Star Wars film. And that's worth celebrating no matter what. Yer good health, chaps...

  • April 10, 2005, 4:02 p.m. CST

    Episode III Audio Book

    by HarrisonsDad

    My cousin gave me the Audio Book on CDs while I was in Florida this week. I popped them into the DVD system in my mini-van and listened to the story on the way home (I think it's a little over 12 hours worth of audio). Anyway, it's a great way to help a long car trip. Matthew Stover does a superb job of fleshing out motives and characters in a way we could never see on screen. Now, I've used Audio Books before, but this one rocks! It has 5.1 surround sound, sound FX, John Williams' score and the man who reads the book, Jonathan Davis, does a fine job of changing his voice just enough to sort of sound like the actual actors (his Yoda voice is hilarious). The way they use FX on Davis' voice to make him sound like C3-P0 or other mechanical characters was phenomenal. My 10 year old enjoyed it and my three year old was enthralled by the sound FX, but did doze off during some of the exposition (but when you have a three year old on a long trip, that's a BONUS). At any rate, I think listening to this might actully enhance the film when I see it. If you're not afraid of spoilers, check it out.

  • April 10, 2005, 4:09 p.m. CST

    Regenhund - I'm pretty sure you said that just to get a rise out

    by Trader Groucho 2

    How's that steady diet of Barney going?

  • April 10, 2005, 4:22 p.m. CST

    This is news?

    by The Founder

    I wonder what's more pathetic? Harry for posting this or me for clicking on the link and actually responding? I guess we both have nothing else better to do. back to the topic, who here didn't already know this? Now what would have been a shocker if it came up r-rated. Now that would be news.

  • April 10, 2005, 4:25 p.m. CST

    Star Wars ...

    by IncredibleYoda

    ... is awesome!!!

  • April 10, 2005, 4:32 p.m. CST

    It's not like it's an "R"

    by Rupee88

    I can't believe how people are saying it's so daring and bold to make a friggin' PG-13 the f**k up.

  • April 10, 2005, 4:34 p.m. CST

    Regenhund, what exactly is going to happen to your kid

    by I Dunno

    ...he'll develop a volcano phobia?

  • April 10, 2005, 4:42 p.m. CST

    Ok, I have to agree with all the others here to. How could your

    by screenplaywriter

    I saw a 10 year-old with his older brother when I went and saw "SIN CITY" and he wasn't traumatized by the violence. Yes, many kids are different when handling images of death, gore, violence, whatever, but I don't think and I'm sorry maybe this is my bad judgment or parenting, but I don't think any kid does not have a right to see a PG-13 movie. They're just the same as a PG only a little less tame. Big deal! And really do you ever see blood spewing out of somebody in "STAR WARS" when their head, or arm is cut off? Do you ever actually hear someone shout out, "OH FUCK!" or something? I mean come on now. Grow up and let your kid too. Quit being a sissy, or else one day your kid will become one and you'll be shitting yourself going, "Damn, if I only took my kid to the last 'STAR WARS.'"

  • April 10, 2005, 4:42 p.m. CST

    I have that footage of Lucas taking a shit

    by slone13

    Let me know if you want me to make you a copy

  • April 10, 2005, 4:47 p.m. CST

    The PG13 rating is for the sex scene.

    by Booty Fett

    The sex scene is all of you suckers that get fucked out of 8 bucks to see this proverbial shit fest. Fool me twice shame on me, Mr. Lucas you are not getting my money on this one. AOTC was supposed to have an N'SYNC cameo, since this one is PG13 you'll probably stick Snoop Dogg and 50 Cent in as Jedis. "Yo Mace, them Sith is cutting up the Jedizzles with deir light sizzles! Fo' shizzle, my nizzle!" Bitch Ass Lucas. Anakin building C3PO. R2D2 flying. Born of the force. Fuuuuuuuuuuuuck!!!

  • April 10, 2005, 5:04 p.m. CST

    What's wrong with Anakin building 3PO and R2 flying?

    by I Dunno

  • April 10, 2005, 5:07 p.m. CST


    by Rapmaster C

    I totally agree - nothing wrong with going to see Ep 3 despite not liking the prequels. If you want to discuss why you thought the prequels suck, then thats fine. But I don't see much discussion in "you're an idiot". My comments were directed more at people like that, rather than people who just don't like the prequels. By "Star Wasr",I was referring to the prequels, though I should have been clearer. Disliking the prequels in no way equates to hating the OT as well. BUt you have to admit, far too many talkbacks are riddled with people who come in and say "This is shit!" or some other random insult - not much effort at discussion in those cases.

  • April 10, 2005, 5:09 p.m. CST


    by Rapmaster C

    Another typo - "Star Wars" I meant. Also, I'm trying my best to stay away from looking at any more footage or new pictures of the film. I've spoilt it far too much already. I don't want to go in there recognising every scene.

  • April 10, 2005, 5:51 p.m. CST

    Any kid who went to see TPM at age 7 is NOW 13, so WHAT'S THE BI

    by BoyNamedSue

    My parents wouldn't let me see Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom for about five years after it first came out. And if your kids bitch and moan about not being able to see it.......IT

  • April 10, 2005, 5:52 p.m. CST


    by LandoSauce

    I probably shouldn't do this because it will crash the site, but I feel like I have a duty to share this...

  • April 10, 2005, 5:59 p.m. CST

    I've written a little review of the soundtrack for those of you

    by IAmJacksUserID

    Read it here, suckas!!

  • April 10, 2005, 6:03 p.m. CST

    I don't care what rating it gets

    by SexyBeast

    I just hope its good.

  • April 10, 2005, 6:04 p.m. CST

    Has the running time been announced?

    by Stanley Spector

    Now that it has a rating from the MPAA, wouldn't that mean that they've locked in a final cut?

  • April 10, 2005, 6:06 p.m. CST also has a new ROTS splash page

    by solowcx

    Just a heads up if you havn't seen it.

  • April 10, 2005, 6:29 p.m. CST

    The REAL rating for ROTS

    by Mr_Furious

    will be two out of four stars.

  • April 10, 2005, 6:49 p.m. CST

    Regenhund...don't blame Lucas

    by Roger Thornhill

    I'm sure your kid won't mind seeing TPM 50 more times since kids love watching the same crap over and over again. And yes I think censorship is wrong and it's the parents duty, not the governments, to take care of what kids are exposed to. Things have gone too far with a lot of movie theaters and the rating system. The other day I went to see Sin City with my girlfriend. I got up to buy a ticket and I get carded! I have a full beard and I'm 26 years old! I guess I might look 17. I laughed and asked the guy why he was carding me and he said his bosses wanted him to card everyone who looked under 30 because parent groups were hounding him. Goddamn stupid fucking parent groups. Bunch of whiny ass mother fuckers. I shouldn't complain that much, it wasn't a big deal to show him my ID and it was quite humorous at the same time. However, I think things have gone a little too far. I believe we should all just step back and go, "Are we going a little overboard with this?"

  • April 10, 2005, 6:49 p.m. CST

    The funny thing is that in Canada most PG-13 films in the U.S. a

    by Archduke_Chocula

    I like how our ratings system is more flexible with films, like instead of R, we have 14A and 18A, so light R goes in the 14A and heavy R goes in 18A. so you have to be either 14 or 18. Fuck ratings though, i'm 19 in a week, i'm well above ratings now.

  • April 10, 2005, 6:57 p.m. CST

    Damn Canadians and your weird ratings systems...

    by gil-galad12

    Just use ours. It's much easier.

  • April 10, 2005, 7:11 p.m. CST


    by Darth Melkor


  • April 10, 2005, 7:18 p.m. CST

    How ROTS Got a PG-13 Rating--The Words I Want To Hear...

    by MrStinger

    "Meesa decapitated!"

  • April 10, 2005, 7:58 p.m. CST

    Ratings and Censorship (And Why I'm F*cked)

    by PianoMonkey

    The ratings system != censorship. Enforcing and/or blindly following ratings is censorship. Ideally, you'd wait until detailed information about *why* it received a PG-13 rating was released before keeping your kids out of the theater, but whatever. They're your kids, after all. But my point was that blaming Lucas makes no sense at all. If you want them to see the movie, take them to the movie. If you don't take them to see it because (you assume) it's too violent, then that's your decision, not Lucas'.

  • April 10, 2005, 8:06 p.m. CST


    by PianoMonkey

    I try to stay away from most of that shite, and I understand what you're saying. Here's hoping we aren't disappointed in the new one, regardless what we think of the last two. Oh, and I meant to type "Enforcing restrictions and/or...." in the above post.

  • April 10, 2005, 8:22 p.m. CST

    Archduke_Chocula, Happy Birthday

    by HarrisonsDad

    19! WOW. I remember when I was 19 . . . at least I think I remember parts of it. 1974 was a very hazy year for me. But so was '75, '76, '77, '78, etc. Okay, I think I pressed the post button, but I got an error message, so if this is a double post, in the words of the immortal Jane Canary of Deadwood, "I apologize."

  • April 10, 2005, 9:12 p.m. CST

    I like the way the naysaying bitches threaten not to go, awww, l

    by Orionsangels

    Meanwhile the ones who like it have a blast and really that's what matters.

  • April 10, 2005, 9:19 p.m. CST

    OT = Fer Kids Fer Shur

    by andenu

    Everything Lucas has ever said about Star Wars is it was and is for kids. He wants everyone to be able to get into it, but the target audience has always been young men. Listen to the OT DVD commentary. He even talks about how he ran certain story points by some children "expert" or psychologist to see if it wouldn't be too much for the lil ones.

  • April 11, 2005, 12:42 a.m. CST

    Does anyone in their right mind think....

    by tensticks

    that a 9 year old boy who walks up to the ticket booth to see ROTS sans parental units is going to be carded and/or denied entry? Come on....

  • April 11, 2005, 12:43 a.m. CST

    ratings inflation

    by NNNOOO!!!

    If the original STAR WARS didn't carry a grandfathered PG rating from 1977, when Parental Guidance Suggested *meant* something, it'd be a 13 too. What's the big whoop?

  • April 11, 2005, 12:57 a.m. CST

    by myshkin77

    man you people are suckers.

  • April 11, 2005, 1:13 a.m. CST

    If anyone cares

    by Regenhund

    -which you might since a bunch of you took the time to bitch at me and worry that my kid will be a pussy- I do plan on buying a ticket myself and then deciding if it's appropriate for my kid. Mostly it's the constant marketing reminders that my kid will be buried under for the next 9 months that piss me off the most. But we're talking about 5 films designed for and marketed to little kids. You can have dark without being graphic, I don't have a problem with dark- hell my son and I both like ESB the best of the original trilogy. But everything I've read and heard about this film points to it being more like something Rob Zombie would put out, not Lucas. And BTW, I fucking HATE it when parents think it's okay to take little kids to R rated movies. That shit should be considered child abuse. I'll never forget when I went to see the first Jurasic Park, and some parent figured it would be okay to take his 6 year old to the dinosaur movie. Those kids screamed bloody murder when the T. rex attacked. They were bawling. Probably gave them nightmares for weeks. That's when I figured out that little kids do no belong in PG-13 movies. If ROTS has a PG-13 rating, it probably earned it from a lot of intense violence. (And Lucas probably begged for it too.) My kid doesn't need to see that, and I hope enough parents do the right thing and check it out for themselves before dropping little Billy and Susie off at the Mall Googolplex in May.<woof>

  • April 11, 2005, 1:40 a.m. CST

    Now maybe it'll be as good as LOTR

    by where_are_quints_hobbit_set_reports


  • April 11, 2005, 1:41 a.m. CST

    Kids in PG-13 movies...

    by ZeroCorpse

    Was Spider-Man 2 a PG-13 movie? I had a bad experience the second time seeing it- Some stupid woman brought her pack of children (all under 6) and they screamed like banshees when the Doc Ock hospital scene came up.

  • April 11, 2005, 1:41 a.m. CST

    But seriously, folks...

    by where_are_quints_hobbit_set_reports

    I'd only see another Star Wars movie if it was NC-17. And then only at a matinee, and only if I sneaked in.

  • April 11, 2005, 1:50 a.m. CST

    Lucas could show all manner of violence and mayhem for god knows

    by Noriko Takaya

    But a 1/2 - second flash of titty would earn him a friggin' "R." So I'm actually not impressed with the rating, what with the MPAA being on crack and all. Still I am looking forward to Revenge of the Sith. Every thing I've seen/heard thus far looks fantastic. Oh and speaking of heard, I'm listening to the soundtrack right now and dear god, it is IMOHO one of the best Star Wars soundtracks ever. Strangely, it also seems to work fine while one is reading Book One of Stephen King's Dark Tower series. Hmmmm. Anyway, look people: fact is if you didn't like the first two flicks you are probably not going to like this one either. Go ahead on and watch but don't be surprised if you are disappointed yet again. For myself, I HATED Phantom Menace. Hated it. The zombie "acting," the autopilot directing, pathetic Trade Federation robots, Jar-Jar. . .I realize Lucas was rusty and all when he made it, but *blech*! Bad Lucas, no doughnut! But then Attack of the Clones came out. I remember walking out of the theater thinking "now THAT'S what I'm talking about!" The story, Portman's acting (more alive here than in Ep. 1), the emotional undercurrent, the fight between Kenobi and Jango Fett, the final battle between the clone troopers and the TF armies and of course the SFX. That, my friends, was a Star Wars movie. Not perfect by any means, but a good entertaining couple of hours. And now there's Revenge of the Sith, soon to grace the theaters near you. The only reason I hold out hope for it, aside from what I've seen/heard so far, is because of the fact that I loved AOTC so much; "Sith" looks to be at least 50 times better. So I'll be there opening night. That said, this is my last Star Wars talkback (on *any* site) until the film comes out - I've done a pretty good job of avoiding spoilers thus far and I don't want to ruin it for myself in the home stretch. But just remember everyone: It's only a movie. Weather you love the prequels or hate them, it doesn't make you satan either way. Everyone has different taste in film. Toppu o Nerae!

  • April 11, 2005, 2:49 a.m. CST

    Tried to avoid posting this, but I'm weak-willed

    by PianoMonkey

    I don't have kids, and so I have no idea about the kind of responsibility that they entail, but I saw Pulp Fiction when I was, what, 11? 12? My brother saw Silence of the Lambs when he was 12. We turned out fine. He might have had a nightmare or two about Buffalo Bill, but that's it. If you ask him, I think he'd say it was worth it. I mean, if this manages to put the last two to shame, and finally regains Star Wars the critical acclaim it's lacked for the past few years, then I'd be saddened to think that a lot of kids missed the opportunity to see it in the theaters because their parents were worried about the PG-13 rating. It's one of those things that you really only get one chance at in a lifetime. Like hearing Ginsberg's first reading of Howl, or a chance to shake Willie Mays' hand. Even if you're too young to fully understand the significance, one day you can look back and say, "Wow. I was so lucky." And who knows, the way things are going, the original version of this film may only be in existence for a year or two before Lucas changes his mind again. Whatever, it's late, I'm rambling, and at the end of the day, I'm usually really tired.

  • April 11, 2005, 3:12 a.m. CST

    Well come on, the violence isn't going to be gory, no blood spra

    by Orionsangels

  • April 11, 2005, 4:01 a.m. CST

    i'm almost crying. get in george!

    by thegoldencalf

  • April 11, 2005, 4:03 a.m. CST

    My Fave PG-13 warning

    by Hal2814

    I saw the Lords of Dogtown trailer at a showing of Sin City and it had a great ratings advisory: "Rated PG-13 for drug and alcohol content, sexuality, violence, language and reckless behavior - all involving teens." Now if that doesn't pack 'em in the seats, what will? Oh yeah, Lucas will beat the Sith outta Spielberg at the box office this summer, bitches! Word.

  • April 11, 2005, 4:24 a.m. CST

    2 cock special??

    by Cpt Kirks 2pay

    Shit man - Although it wasn't in the novel (which i just finished and was fucking cool) - I WAS REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THE YODA/OBI WAN 2 COCK SPECIAL (padme was really frustrated after annie's cock and balls caught fire). shit man!!!

  • April 11, 2005, 6:21 a.m. CST

    Is it just me...

    by mbaker

    Or has the regular PG rating become more wussier than the G rating? In my day, the G rating use to cover a wider audience, but now it's limited to todlers. PG would alo go after a wide audience, but when PG-13 came along, it was the fine line between PG, and R. Now PG-13 is the new PG, and PG is now the new G. The times, they are a changing.

  • April 11, 2005, 6:28 a.m. CST

    2 cock special??

    by Cpt Kirks 2pay

    Shit man - Although it wasn't in the novel (which i just finished and was fucking cool) - I WAS REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THE YODA/OBI WAN 2 COCK SPECIAL (padme was really frustrated after annie's cock and balls caught fire). shit man!!!

  • April 11, 2005, 6:29 a.m. CST

    yeah i fucked up

    by Cpt Kirks 2pay

    sorry 'bout the double post - yeah im a mong, i know

  • April 11, 2005, 8:42 a.m. CST

    Spoilers for EPISODE II

    by boba_rob

    Those of you who want to remain spoiler-free stop reading. I went to Borders this weekend and read the MAKING OF REVENGE OF THE SITH, which pretty much tells the whole story and shows tons of pics we haven't seen before. Some surprised me, such as a spanking new Millenium Falcon with blue trim, kinda like racing stripes! George and his daughter in full costume for their cameos. The better stufff, and this is major spoiler stuff-the final scene in the movie is pictured. A hooded Obi-Wan delivering Luke to the Lars'. A description of Anakin/Vader's reaction to Padme's Death, and the Emporer telling him that he, Anikin, killed her. A scene of Vader standing on the bridge of a Star Destroyer overseeing the construction of the Death Star. Padme's Funeral. Mace's death at the hands of Palpatine via some bad-ass Sith lightning. A description of Yoda orbiting Dagoboah, searching the planet for a new home. They have lot's of script excerpts, complete w/ rewrites penciled in, and Im sorry to say the dialogue is just as bad as the other prequels, but damn, the movie looks cool! Oh, and they show burnt Anikin! He's really f***** up!, Missing limbs, etc. and they show the Emporer rescuing him, and taking him to be repaired. And theres a photo of medical droids assembling Vader! Awesome stuff! Of course, you can get the whole story reading the Novel, which is now out too. Can't wait until May 19!

  • April 11, 2005, 9:06 a.m. CST

    People are still into Star Wars?

    by MinasTirithII

    My, how absurd.

  • April 11, 2005, 9:06 a.m. CST

    Bout bloody time

    by DannyOcean01

    Not that a darker rating guarantees a better film, but if he needs a darker rating to tell his story then so be it. The amount of money fans have laid down for each new generation of toys, books, films etc, then yes, we deserve the best film he can produce.

  • April 11, 2005, 9:58 a.m. CST

    For Razorback, who said:

    by Childe Roland

    "No one goes to see a third movie in a series of movies they hate." That is, of course, unless it's the third movie in a series of six that were made out of order and for which the count now stands almost dead even after five movies at two-and-a-half good and two-and-a-half shit. Do you leave the ballpark on a three and two count in the bottom of the ninth during a tie game? I want to see if George can pull it out.

  • April 11, 2005, 11:02 a.m. CST


    by kwisatzhaderach

    Lord of the Rings were great films, but what have they got to do with Star Wars. Are you feeling threatened by making silly childish comments. I'm a massive fan of the Lord of the Rings books but the movies arent as good as theyre made out to be and some of the acting is terrible, hello orlando bloom. Yes they are great films but they're not flawless. And lets not forget Jackson going to Skywalker Ranch to see how to use digital technology :) Bring on Episode III, bring on space battles and lightsaber fights,betrayal and death and Palpatine Force-throwing senate pods at Yoda! Yee-haa! If you can't enoy that you're already dead.

  • April 11, 2005, 11:26 a.m. CST

    I knew it wouldn't be long before MinasTirithII showed up, seein

    by Atticus Finch

    Like a child in school who is mean to the one he loves to get attention...behold...MinasTirithII!

  • April 11, 2005, 11:28 a.m. CST

    when I went and saw Sin City

    by Shigeru

    2 Parents brought their BABY to it. It cried and made noise A LOT. That is all.

  • April 11, 2005, 11:28 a.m. CST


    by Cpt Kirks 2pay

    As i've said before, LOTR was a cool set of movies, (and I hate being drawn into SW vs LOTR shitty little petty arguments), BUT.... nothing annoys me more than twats jumping in on a SW TB and posting something like "star wars is shit and LOTR gives me a semi" while sitting there in his elf cloak wanking over his precious. We all know ep3 is gonna rock. End of story. Shamone Motherfucker (heee- heee).

  • April 11, 2005, 11:47 a.m. CST


    by Kentucky Colonel

    Don't leave your cheese out on the gets all hard. Also, do not drink milk that's been left out for more than a few gets all putrid.

  • April 11, 2005, 11:52 a.m. CST

    While reading this...I am thinking about the comment made by..

    by Lost Skeleton

    the villian in the Incredibles...but anyway, this IS great news because the adult fans will finally see an intense Star Wars movie and the end of trilogy calls for it!

  • April 11, 2005, 3:05 p.m. CST

    "Now maybe it'll be as good as LOTR -Daddylonghead" NEW RULE: I

    by Bill Maher

    Twelve hours of tedious, pretentious crap. Oh joy. Nothing better than movies that take themselves much more seriously than any movies with gay midgets ought to. Give me Star Wars with its tongue-in-cheek humor over Bored of the Rings with its tongue-in-midget cornhole seriousness anytime.

  • April 11, 2005, 3:20 p.m. CST

    Has anyone here ever read...

    by Childe Roland

    ...Flowers for Algernon? If you have, take a look back at Bill Maher's posts for the last month or so and I'm sure you'll notice right away how he seems to get stupider by degrees. Only with him it isn't sad, like in the book, so much as funny... like a clown getting beaten to death with a frozen water balloon animal.

  • April 11, 2005, 7:27 p.m. CST

    I'm glad I like both SW & LOTR

    by Orionsangels

    Bitter fatheads

  • April 11, 2005, 8:38 p.m. CST

    My favorite story about shithead parents taking their young chil

    by Barry Egan

    when I saw two piece of shit trailer trash assholes bring their kids younger than 5 to see Natural Born Killers. They were my nominees for the Joan Crawford Parent of the Year Award. I thought about calling DFS on the pricks.

  • April 11, 2005, 9:16 p.m. CST

    Too much time on the Tanning Bed...

    by REDD


  • April 12, 2005, 12:18 a.m. CST

    Lets look at the numbers...

    by Orionsangels

    Despite what the naysaying critics say, SW is as popular as ever according to these numbers --- TPM = $431,088,301 AOTC = $310,676,740 ANH = $460,998,007 TESB = $290,475,067 ROTJ = $309,306,177 --- Source Looking at it realistically I think ROTS will at least make $350 Million

  • April 12, 2005, 4:07 a.m. CST

    Soundtrack ROTS

    by TheBuffalo

    Anyone know what happened to the website They had several links to 15 tracks of the ROTS soundtrack. When you go to their website now, you're redirected to Are they taken over by Lucas?

  • April 12, 2005, 4:10 a.m. CST

    Another one bites the dust

    by TheBuffalo

    Ah, LandoSauce's is gone as well. George is all-powerful.

  • April 12, 2005, 4:32 a.m. CST

    How can one movie be "verses" another?

    by Lezbo Milk

    If one movie is really good, does the other movie become worse? If one movie is bad does the other get better? Please describe to me the physical change that occurs to a film once it is deemed that another film is better or worse? You guys are fucking rediculous. A movie is what it is. If your eating a hamburger, and you happen to glace over and see someone eating a piece of shit, your hamburger doesn't magically turn into a fucking steak. It's still a goddam hamburger. LOTR vs Star Wars is fucking dumb. You like 'em or you don't. Once has no effect on the other.

  • April 13, 2005, 12:29 a.m. CST


    by Robnhud