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I am – Hercules!!

Yes, this is the best sitcom NBC is airing at the moment, and something that could easily evolve into the next “NewsRadio”! The Steve Carrell character is a monster (“monster” in the bad way) and I hope it’s revealed soon that he is the owner’s son or son-in-law or nephew. Otherwise it makes little sense that someone as horrifyingly and chillingly incompetent could ever rise to middle-management.

Carrell achieved god-like status in Herc’s eyes for his work in the feature “Anchorman,” but what’s to love about this show is the supporting cast. I am in love with the insecure receptionist, played by Jenna Fischer, who is a cross between Maura Tierney and Mary Lynn Rajskub. And I am completely invested in the John Krasinski character’s pursuit of her. And Rainn Wilson may be the new Fred Willard.

But what matters Herc’s opinion? The Hollywood Reporter says:

… captures the universally dispiriting experience of office life … Carrell is nothing short of superb in crafting his own version of a boss who is utterly unaware of how he is perceived by others. Given the limited reach of "The Office" on BBC America, Carrell will set the American standard for administrative pomposity and pretension. … He is surrounded by a versatile cast chosen, in part, for their skill at improvisation. Jenna Fischer is delightful as the sweet but frustrated receptionist, Pam. John Krasinski smartly portrays Jim, the bored practical joker of the office. Rainn Wilson is hilarious as Dwight, the tightly wound office geek and toady and the character most altered from the BBC show. … It is ironic that this series, though an adaptation, is one of the most unique and creative new comedies on NBC in years.

Variety says:

… The well-traveled Carell is a very talented guy, from "The Daily Show" to "Anchorman," but understatement and restraint are hardly his forte. As a consequence, he plays Michael bigger, and therefore harder to endure, than Gervais did -- a fine line that's significant in such a delicately balanced comedy. … On the plus side, the remainder of the cast refreshingly looks like real people, and some moments in the second and third episodes are extremely funny. … doesn't ascend to the heights of a water-cooler show. …

Entertainment Weekly gives it a “B” and says:

… painfully genuine … the new sitcom is clever and insular, capturing all the drudgery, awkwardness, and rivalry of cubicle living. … NBC could have ruined the delicate dynamic of The Office by over-Americanizing it. Some exec, at some point, must have floated the idea of morphing Pam into an Andersonian chesty blond babe. Instead, played by the sweet-faced Fischer with an air of humor and neglect, Pam's the kind of woman who doesn't bother to finish brushing her hair because, really, who notices? Fischer and Krasinski have a gentle chemistry that should be fun to watch as Jim and Pam's attraction develops. Meanwhile, Rainn Wilson, in the easy-to-overdo role of sycophant Dwight, reins in his nerd vibe just short of Urkel territory. …

USA Today gives it two and a half stars and says:

… in defense of the Americanized version, most people haven't seen the original, and, as copies go, this Office at least is not the clear-the-hall disaster that was NBC's remake of the lesser Brit hit Coupling. … at its best in a later episode, as one of Michael's racist jokes leads the company to hold a diversity day. The outing is filled with moments that make you cringe in discomfort and recognition, as when Michael blithely asks a Mexican employee, "Is there a term besides Mexican that you prefer? Something less offensive?" …

9:30 p.m. Thursday. NBC.







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  • March 24, 2005, 12:44 a.m. CST

    So it rivals the BBC original?

    by Terry_1978

    I may check it out, mostly for Carrell.

  • March 24, 2005, 12:50 a.m. CST

    WOW

    by a_guy

    I LOVED THE BBC Series!!! SOOO I was SCARED SO much that this is the first time i have posted here in a year, BUT I cannot wait until tomorrow night, I am going in there with a GOOD attitude, because Grieves himself (in the Entertainment Weekly Article) Sounded off and gave it a BIG THUMBS UP... when asked if he had any input.. to paraphrase: NO, that would be like someone covering a David Bowie song and then David showing up and listening, and sharing his likes of the new version, then telling them "but i didn't use a flute there it was a crash cymbal" really a great read.... LONG LIVE THE OFFICE!!! HOWEVER... i cannot love another like i loved Dawn Tinsley ("AS I LIVE AND BREATHE!")

  • March 24, 2005, 12:59 a.m. CST

    Amazing. Did Joss Whedon dip his balls in it or something?

    by ZeroCorpse

    Because that's one of the only ways Herc will like something. That or if it's about teenaged girls sharing their feelings and discussing their angst in one way or another.

  • March 24, 2005, 1:06 a.m. CST

    Quirky. British. Well reviewed. I give it about four weeks.

    by Tall_Boy

    Nooch.

  • March 24, 2005, 1:13 a.m. CST

    i wanna dip my balls in it.

    by JoeStokowski

    i love the state.

  • March 24, 2005, 1:23 a.m. CST

    Can we get confirmation...

    by reversemigraine

    ...that Herc has ever seen the BBC series? I'll believe this show works when I see it, but I'm going to be wary of any positive reviews from people who don't know the source material.

  • March 24, 2005, 1:24 a.m. CST

    of course...

    by luckylindy

    it wont be as good as the brit version...but goddammit if steve carrell one of the funniest people alive. Cant wait to watch it

  • March 24, 2005, 1:25 a.m. CST

    woops

    by luckylindy

    i meant goddammit if steve carrell isnt one of the...you get the idea...nevermind im going to sleep

  • March 24, 2005, 1:34 a.m. CST

    It is bad, trust me. The comedy impaired need only apply.

    by Vicconius

    I've seen the premiere episode and it is truly bad. There is no subtlety at all. All joke have to spelled out for the audience and hit you over the head. David Brent is likable even when he's being a total idiot. Steve Carrell's character is unlikable by any standard.

  • March 24, 2005, 1:36 a.m. CST

    AICN should put advertisements on their site!

    by Heckles

    Oh wait... they did. Like my pappy said, I never disliked something I got paid to like. And Three's Company was a Brit import, too, that fared alright. And the British Coupling was just a rip of Friends, anyway. Too bad that NBC had to rip-off the rip-off with jokes that were 5 years old.

  • March 24, 2005, 1:37 a.m. CST

    Obviously, Herc hasn't seen the original BBC version....

    by cornstalkwalker

    ... Because the American version is the exact same but the pop culture references are changed to an American viewpoint. Sure it was funny, but why bother if it's exactly the same with different people.

  • March 24, 2005, 2 a.m. CST

    There's adverts on AICN?

    by Grando

    Man, I love Firefox.......

  • March 24, 2005, 2:25 a.m. CST

    Hate to say it-

    by bluebottle

    but it's terrible. it's like the actors are all screaming, "look how subtle we're acting!!!!"

  • March 24, 2005, 3:06 a.m. CST

    Great, maybe us Brits should make a UK friends...

    by Andy Dufresne

    ...except that would be a dumb idea. Get Carter, Italian Job, Coupling (though crap to start too), and now the holy Office: haven't you done enough damage already? Just screen the original!!!!!

  • March 24, 2005, 3:40 a.m. CST

    wait, Firefox..

    by Don Lockwood

    ...shows the ads. I'm looking right at them, unfortunately. Hmm, maybe I need to change some settings... ObOffice: I tried to watch the Brit version once and squirmed so much I had to turn it off. I know I should give it another chance. As for the Americanized one, I like Steve Carrell, but another workplace comedy is clearly not needed as long as Less Than Perfect is still on the air.

  • March 24, 2005, 4:10 a.m. CST

    Did anyone notice...

    by kintar0

    Both Lucy Davis and Martin Freeman were in Shaun of the Dead? And c'mon, there's no fucking way this American version will be any good. Maybe if Herc had seen the original he may have liked the American version less?

  • March 24, 2005, 4:19 a.m. CST

    The UK Office has more than a limited reach.

    by Archduke_Chocula

    It's not like it's locked away only in the U.K. so only the bit torrented can find it..........like Spaced...which I can buy in a month. I think american audiences are familiar with the UK faux doc, it won an emmy too, it's not a low profile thing.

  • March 24, 2005, 4:20 a.m. CST

    Tim = Jim

    by Archduke_Chocula

    Damn.

  • March 24, 2005, 4:22 a.m. CST

    Will watch it for Carrell though

    by Archduke_Chocula

    I'm not usually for triple posting but the last two were negative so wanted to just say I hope it's good.

  • March 24, 2005, 4:53 a.m. CST

    Rival "Newsradio"? Never!!

    by viola123

    That's very high praise, Herc, but I can't imagine this, or any office-setting show rivaling "Newsradio". Never. That show had it all and the thing is, is you liked every single character. It's disappointing to see Joe Rogan now so identified with that "Fear Factor", but ah well. I'll remember him as Joe, the guy who fixes things and believes in conspiracy theories. And as far as "Newsradio", I'm so glad it's going to be on DVD in May. Yay! Finally. It's about time. That being said, I plan on watching "The Office". :)

  • March 24, 2005, 5:21 a.m. CST

    As a Brit who watched the first airing on BBC2 of the original

    by ChorleyFM

    After seeing the pilot I can honestly say this is a very very good show. Not quite up there with Arrested and Curb, shows which in my opinion are superceeded by the original, but not far off. Carrell is Brilliant, he is more likable than Gervais, but he is at the same time less detatched but more of a dick. Many of my mates have seen it and we all think that it is a great show, if not as good as the Masterpiece that is the Office UK. Also, I read that the first show is almost the only one copied almost verbatim, after that they withdraw elements but they are generally original scripts.

  • March 24, 2005, 5:33 a.m. CST

    * pronounced rice-cube

    by Napoleon Park

    Wow, the best sit-com on NBC? Aren't the only other sit-coms they have "Will & Grace", which jumped the shark years ago by turning Jack and Karen into two dimensional stereotypes, and got even worse by becoming "name guest star of the week", and "Joey" which is so bad it makes me cringe. (But, yeah, I watch every third episode or so anyway because any show with Drea DeTomato, Jennifer "Stifler's mom" Coolidge and Lucy Liu on it can't be entirely worthless.) Oh wait, NBC also has that 'What if ER was a sit-com' show, too. Never mind. ***** And the "cute, likable girl" here is a cross between Moira "the lesbian from ER" Tierney and the very funny Mary Lynn Rajskub* from "the Downer Channel II", who between them are embodiments of the cooly antiseptic modern white woman with negative sex appeal. ***** Importing a British hit isn't always a bad idea. Sometimes it is. All in the Family and Stepford and Son worked. Voyager, the American version of Red Dwarf, lasted seven years. But the American version of "Men Behaving Badly" sucked without Blind Cop and Mallory, Payne (the American "Fawlty Towers" failed, "Coupling" was laughable in a bad way, and "The Office" stank the place up based on some incredibly unfunny promo ads... wait, that last one is the show we were discussing. Oh well, the commercials suck - and so do the internet web site ads. ***** Not that AICN should bite the hands that feed Harry. After all, that Napoleon Dynamite picture that advertised here for a month turned out to be the thrill ride of the summer, and "I (fart) Hucklebees" was the feel good picture of the year. If we can't trust corporations who pay money to make us believe their products are of acceptable quality, who can we trust?

  • March 24, 2005, 6:56 a.m. CST

    "someone as horrifyingly and chillingly incompetent could ever r

    by BurlIvesLeftNut

    Ah, Herc, perhaps you should get a job or something sometime. You would realize that mediocrity and incompetence is the STANDARD, not the exception.

  • March 24, 2005, 7:42 a.m. CST

    Voyager, the American version of Red Dwarf, lasted seven years-

    by RenoNevada2000

    Brilliant! Also, PAYNE wasn't the first attempt to adapt FAWLTY TOWERS, anyone else remember the version with Bea Arthur called, IIRC, AMANDA'S?

  • March 24, 2005, 7:56 a.m. CST

    "It makes little sense that someone as horrifyingly and chilling

    by Roguewriter

    Obviously, Quint, you have never worked in America! I have worked in private industry, in commercial and retail offices, and for contract and government agencies, and it's the same everywhere... People somehow always manage to rise to their level of incompetence and then hover there. It's the nature of our working society, man. To quote the grandfather from SHE'S HAVING A BABY: "People don't mature anymore. They just stay jackasses all their lives!" Especially in the workplace.

  • March 24, 2005, 8:02 a.m. CST

    middle management is full of David Brents

    by ScaryJim

    thats why the office was so funny. Jesus how many crappy acronyms has the company i work for come up with .. they choose letters because they make up some stupid word and when it comes down to it it doesn't mean shit . And these people are in charge of you . Middle management is just a blag .

  • March 24, 2005, 8:16 a.m. CST

    Best Sitcom?

    by sheared

    Not unless Scrubs has already been removed from their lineup.

  • March 24, 2005, 8:24 a.m. CST

    No Way

    by DivideByZero

    There is no way NBC will be able to do the things the BBC series did, i.e. the extreme profanity and sexual jokes. Plus how do you change Garreth's character? "I was wondering if a boy would ever be born who can swim faster than a shark?" Why don't they just show the originals on a cable network channel?

  • March 24, 2005, 8:35 a.m. CST

    Even if it IS the next "NewsRadio", "NewsRadio" never got good r

    by FrankDrebin

    So was the Fred Savage NBC sitcom "Working", which was also quirky, with an evil yet incompetant boss.

  • March 24, 2005, 8:48 a.m. CST

    Stupid middlemanagers are the reason traffic is so high on the w

    by Big Bad Clone

    I do my shit with the least amount of effort because I know it will be lost on these assclowns. Hell, the VP of my dept. disappears for several hours at a time with for no reason. Every time the guy in the office next to mine speaks, I just want to strangle him.--- Hell, my dad refuses to watch the original Office because it reminds him too much of people he's worked for his entire career.

  • March 24, 2005, 9:04 a.m. CST

    Napoleon Park

    by HomerGator

    Well, obviously your tirade should not be ignored. I mean, this comes from someone who knows good comedy when they see it. Oh wait, you're a Napoleon Dynamite fan...the overly long played out one gag SNL skit of a movie with no plot and complete contempt for the characters it supposedly applauds. I might have been interested in your rant had you A) Seen the show or B) Showed any sort of comedic understanding. I for one will give the show a chance. Steve Carrell is a very gifted comedian and an improvisational one at that. Also, he was HAND PICKED by Gervais as the only guy who could carry the role. If the supporting cast delivers how they should (and it sound slike already they've done a great job with the "Dawn" character) then the show might deliver. I agree it's going to have problems keeping an audience (No major star for plebians to latch on to, small cast, quirky situations)...but who knows. As for the poster who said, "Somehow I doubt the guy from Bruce Almighty can compare to Ricky Gervais"...umm, what had Gervais done before The Office? Some radio work? A bit of stand up? What a stupid comment. Kind like, "SOmehow I doubt the guy from Booty Call can compare to Clint Eastwood"...Oh, woops! Oh and seriously spaced comes out in a month???? I bought bootlegs on Ebay...the show is the closest to a live action Fmaily Guy in tone and execution as I've ever seen. FUnnier than The Office...like 12 mini half hour films with my sense of humor as their target. LOVE IT!

  • March 24, 2005, 9:42 a.m. CST

    WHOA WHOA WHOA! How come a few months ago the reviews on the pil

    by Grabthars_Hammer

  • March 24, 2005, 9:43 a.m. CST

    Best Sitcom on NBC...so the best of 5 shows

    by Big Bad Clone

    and the other 4 are Will & Grace, Committed, Joey, and Scrubs. Of those, I only like Scrubs. The reat are good awful with some hot chicks in it. Seriously, the chick from Committed is could raise a circus tent but then she has to say some fucking annoying bit of dialog.

  • March 24, 2005, 9:56 a.m. CST

    Herules should change his name to

    by Olsen Twins_Fan

    WHOREcules. Geddit? Geddit!?!?!?!

  • March 24, 2005, 9:58 a.m. CST

    Herc, seriously, are you Harry's nephew? Because only a little k

    by Grabthars_Hammer

  • March 24, 2005, 10:35 a.m. CST

    The Damage is Done...

    by amrcanpoet

    Get over it. I loved the original Office, and there's nothing you can do to stop this remake from happening; so, stop bitching about how NBC remade it. All we can do, now, is hope that it's somewhat decent, and doesn't dreadfully besmearch the name "The Office." I'm taping it tonight, will watch it tomorrow, and hope that it's at least half-as-good as the original. If it's that, then it is easily in the Top 3 sitcoms on TV (directly behind the amazing Scrubs, and the first-place, god's gift Arrested Development).

  • March 24, 2005, 11:02 a.m. CST

    The Office is an extremely British show

    by performingmonkey

    I can't even begin to imagine how it could be adapted for an American audience. I won't be surprised if they have the Brent character just unlikeable rather than with some depth. In American shows you have to either love a character or hate them, there's no in between. But British comedy does best when the characters aren't one-dimensional, like Brent, Alan Partridge and Basil Fawlty to name a few. I find that if you put a more real character in a comedy it's much funnier than someone that's basically a gag machine reeling off one-liners written by a commitee.

  • March 24, 2005, 11:11 a.m. CST

    Only the pilot is and exact copy

    by Gheorghe Zamfir

    After the pilot episode they start using their own scripts, don't know if that'll make it better or worse, just an FYI.

  • March 24, 2005, 11:23 a.m. CST

    Is there a Chris Finch in this version?

    by Big Bad Clone

    I'd love to see Carell trying to be as "cool" as Finch. BTW - I swear that guy is just like one of my uncles. He refer to all his nephews as "Hey, Fruity" and make some comment about my female cousin's breasts.

  • March 24, 2005, 11:26 a.m. CST

    "I'm Brick Tamland. People seem to like me. I am polite and I am

    by Orionsangels

    From the ads. he's kind of playing a slightly less stupid version of Brick Tamland. Which is a good thing. Since I think Anchorman is the funniest movie made in the last ten years.

  • March 24, 2005, 11:42 a.m. CST

    british vs american

    by JackDonkey

    The Office UK style was an awesome show and like everyone else said, it had a nice run and wrapped up the series perfectly. I would like to see more Office but the UK style would only make things worse if they continued it, like adding more bling to a car that already looks perfect. So I'm glad they made an American Office so that I can get that same kind of comedy without it detracting from the great run the British version had.

  • March 24, 2005, 11:44 a.m. CST

    free love on the free love freeway :P

    by JackDonkey

    just wanted to say that

  • March 24, 2005, 11:57 a.m. CST

    Was anyone looking for a new Fred Williard?

    by SexyBeast

    Its not like he's dead. Fred Williard is is Fred Williard, why do we need another one?

  • March 24, 2005, 12:46 p.m. CST

    PRODUCE PEET is to Ricky Jervais what crack is to cocaine.

    by Liquid_Daze

    Steve Carell is funny and talented -no question; but isn't this just NBC pretending it doesn't have a chip the size of Daniel Baldwin on its shoulder? It couldn't translate Coupling. Couldn't make the Weakest Link stick around. How many ppl are the networks losing to Digital Cable & Direct TV that they feel the need to bastardize these shows. NBC you are the ass-crack of tv land. "We don't need reality tv..." Enter Millionaire, American Idol, (American) Survivor... and it's welcome Fear Factor! Is it getting too expensive to produce your Seinfeld clones?? Is WILL & GRACE too controversial because of all the gay... conversation? All the hot ass-pounding... quips? All iconoclastic society-challenging... mugging? Fuck you Peacock Network. Baby I hear the blues calling... TOSSED SALADS & SCRAMBLED EGGS!!!

  • March 24, 2005, 1:52 p.m. CST

    performingmonkey

    by HomerGator

    I love how you, and many others, talk about depth of David Brent. Have you WATCHED the second season? A lot of my friends didn't like the second season because Brent was meaner. I agree, in the first season, there is almost a child like innosense in his stupidity and ignorance. A, "he doesn't know any better" quality. However, what happens to a person like that under pressure? They become what he becomes in season 2. A complete and utter prick. WHo cares if he's fired, or anything, he's a jerk to all the people who work with him, but he's funny. So, enough pedastal pushing in having Brent as god's gift to three dimensional character study. He's not. But he's damn funny and so is Carrell. Just because Gervais boss was less of an American one note character, he was still just a one not shlub. A guy who thinks he's funnier and more popular than himself, and when cornered, will take down everyone but himself in order to make himself look better.

  • March 24, 2005, 1:59 p.m. CST

    it makes little sense that someone as horrifyingly and chillingl

    by cookylamoo

    Fifty million lower echelon employees say you're wrong.

  • Because that's about as interesting as your opinion of Anchorman.

  • March 24, 2005, 2:34 p.m. CST

    I dunno if I can stomach this...

    by mbeemer

    ... but I am rooting for Carrell. Daem, dat boy is funny!

  • March 24, 2005, 2:39 p.m. CST

    Those Burger King commercials were good until they got "guest st

    by Big Bad Clone

    Like that ugly woman from that show in which Donald Trump speaks in a monotone voice and the contestants bug the shit out of me. If, and I mean IF, this show goes anywhere, I hope to hell they stay away from guest stars. Or at the least treats them like Arrested Development does.

  • Only unlike lawyers, there are no exceptions. Seriously, was that supposed to be sarcasm that I just didn't get? I cannot imagine someone being naive about such an issue here at AICN!

  • March 24, 2005, 2:58 p.m. CST

    Pilot's been floating on the web for months

    by Hoke Mosley

    And it is just TERRIBLE! I don't know if Herc ever saw the original, but I assure you all the the subtle humour, the superb acting and great style of the original are ALL GONE!!! Beware!! They made The Office into a slapstick sit-com, with obvious jokes and punchlines. everything the original walked away from. The only thing that makes me glad is that Gervais is probably rich by now, and he fucking deserves it! The (original) Office is pure gold! The american version is a shitty on-your-face-jokes conversion. DON'T WATCH THIS!

  • March 24, 2005, 3:48 p.m. CST

    Good or not, it'll bomb quickly

    by MaxCalifornia.

    Given the track record of this kind of thing; most Americans aren't into "office humor". Dilbert was cancelled after a whole month, Office Space was a box office flop (despite success on video later) and let's face it, if it doesn't have fart jokes and a fat likeable slob as the main character, a network sitcom is going to struggle. Most potential NBC sitcom viewers who work in a depressing office 9 to 5 all day aren't going to want to come home and watch a show about a depressing office. Plus no laugh track, no stars, and the 'uncomfortable' humor vibe, I give it 6 weeks tops. And for everyone touting Ricky Gervais' involvement in this, let's face it, the only reason Ricky is playing ball here is to play nice with the networks, so they'll carry his future projects like that 'Extras' show. He's probably laughing all the way to the bank with this piss poor remake.

  • March 24, 2005, 4:25 p.m. CST

    now, now

    by symphy

    Dilbert had two seasons, not one month. And it was funny as hell. :)

  • March 24, 2005, 4:25 p.m. CST

    STEPFORD and Son?

    by Seepgood

    What's that, the sitcom about an aspirational rag-and-bone man who replaces his disreputable father with a robot?

  • March 24, 2005, 5:51 p.m. CST

    I hate remakes as much as the next guy, but some of the ads have

    by minderbinder

    Specifically the ones that are new material, the stuff lifted from the british version is strange, having seen the original. Steve Carrell looks pretty funny, and yes he was hilarious in Anchorman. The thing that looks promising about this show is that they didn't stick too close to the original, it looks to be a show on the same topic instead of a direct lift. And I'm glad to see Scrubs getting some respect on this site, except the one asswipe who likely hasn't even seen it...

  • March 24, 2005, 5:53 p.m. CST

    According to IMDB

    by amrcanpoet

    Gervais and Merchant both wrote the pilot... http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0386676/fullcredits#writers Not sure how legit that is, but just found it interesting.

  • March 24, 2005, 5:57 p.m. CST

    Whateva bitch! you're fuckin' "wash"

    by Orionsangels

    If you don't like what I post don't read, you little cunt. I don't read the pointless crap you post. So it's mutual, now get outta my face scumbag!

  • March 24, 2005, 6:20 p.m. CST

    Homer Gator "Somehow I doubt the guy from Booty Call can compare

    by Trader Groucho 2

    hahahahahahahahahahahaha. Effin' gold.

  • March 24, 2005, 6:25 p.m. CST

    Sexy Beast - the new Fred Willard thing was just Herc's opinion

    by Trader Groucho 2

    Check out Rainn Wilson in Badaaassssssss. There ain't no Fred Willard whatsoever there.

  • March 24, 2005, 7:11 p.m. CST

    I think it was "Steptoe and Son"

    by Mr_Furious

    But your point is well taken. All in the Famaly was the other show. Looking forward the The (American) Office. www.theletterd.blogspot.com

  • March 24, 2005, 8:14 p.m. CST

    You dir'y old mayyyn!

    by Seepgood

    I was just wondering whether you were wittily synthesising "Steptoe" and "Sanford" in a manner combining brevity, an allusion to the derivation of one from the other and a reference to that creaky old feminist parable, or whether you had just made a mistake. Case solved.

  • March 24, 2005, 8:26 p.m. CST

    honestly herc

    by jonastheangel

    i agree with the guys who say you must not have worked in the private sector. moronic bosses who dont deserve the position they have are what make up most company management teams. if you cant believe that idiots who have no idea how to run a business are infact running them, then herc i think you spend too much time watching movies and not enough living in the real world. i think the real reasons shows like this or movies like office space dont do well at first are A)either theyre complete shit, or B) they are brilliant, but hit so close to home that its hard to watch em

  • March 24, 2005, 8:28 p.m. CST

    Why don't they just show the originals on a cable network channe

    by cornstalkwalker

    Actually, The Office UK is shown on BBC America. But, just rent or buy the DVDs and then you don't have to worry about commericals.

  • March 24, 2005, 8:31 p.m. CST

    David Brent as your boss....

    by cornstalkwalker

    ... would be great because all you would have to do is laugh at his jokes and go drink a pint every once in a while.

  • March 24, 2005, 10 p.m. CST

    Yeah...

    by howlingdervish

    ...that really sucked.

  • March 24, 2005, 10:05 p.m. CST

    It's a bit unstable and just when it's going to get away from t

    by Orionsangels

    His expressions are priceless, he never looks like he's trying too hard. his comedy comes off flawlessly. This show looks too good to last

  • March 24, 2005, 10:11 p.m. CST

    Just watched it. The receptionist is HOT!

    by cookylamoo

  • March 24, 2005, 10:15 p.m. CST

    Very difficult to watch...

    by Arch_Stanton

    ... just like, IMO, the British version. I laughed, but it's a very uncomfortable laugh. I was hoping they'd reel in Gervais' idiocy just a wee bit, but they didn't at all.

  • March 24, 2005, 10:36 p.m. CST

    if this show fails it would be because 1) americans sadly are re

    by atomheartbrother

    because that shit is PAINFULLY... achingly true... now that i compare that jerk to the jerks i work for and cry. actually now that i read that subhect back one actually could say that once again the networks are behind the times considering that white collar workplace comedy might be passe, much like the white collar workplace itself. here's hoping to american intelligence! and to an american workforce!

  • March 24, 2005, 10:53 p.m. CST

    "i agree with the guys who say you must not have worked in the p

    by Hercules

    is Ain't It Cool not the private sector? I get mixed up. ***** For the record, NBC sent over three episodes together, so it felt like a big commercial-free hour that picked up as it went along. ***** The funniest sitcoms ever are "Fawlty Towers," "Cheers," "The Simpsons" (1.x -7.x) and "The Larry Sanders Show."

  • March 24, 2005, 11:01 p.m. CST

    That Blew

    by donnysan

    I TIVO'd it and stopped the recording before it ended. A pale copy of the Brit version, not funny in any way.

  • March 24, 2005, 11:06 p.m. CST

    well, come on guys....

    by symphy

    Look at it this way -- yeah, the British version is better, but if you HADN'T SEEN the British original, if this was a brand new show to you, with nothing to compare it to other than the rest of the sucky sitcoms out there, you'd be singing its praises, calling it the next Arrested Devlopment, etc. Remember that 99% of Americans haven't seen the original show, so to them, it's fresh and funny. Just don't compare it to the original and you'll enjoy it far more.

  • March 24, 2005, 11:15 p.m. CST

    Painful - I loved it!

    by theBigE

    Ok, I'm uncultured as I don't have BBC America (or cable for that matter) and I've never seen the original "Office." But that show was painful to watch - and hilarious! Yes, I was saying, as the producer want me to, "I work with someone like that!" But this show will bomb, big time, in the ratings. I give it six episodes, max. Meanwhile, "Yes Dear" is now in its fifth season.

  • March 24, 2005, 11:19 p.m. CST

    and GODDAMN! i just read this entire talkback and boy can you te

    by atomheartbrother

    because that shit was hilariously TRUE. the managers who are 1) blissfully unaware, 2) incompetent (and unaware of that too), and 3) pretend to be everybody's friend when everybody knows their not: all true. the downsizing meeting with the upset black people (always the most practical and always the first to GET IT), the deer in the headlights white people, and managers jerking everybody off: true. the existential despair: true. and for the record JACKOFFS: that guy IS gareth- gareth the sociopathic synchophant (or did you think gareth was all funny haircuts, "oggy oggy oggzy" and codpieces?). yes, that show was brilliant, a perfect translation of the british version into a magnificently real us version, with the akward dead silences, and the reactions being as big a part of the joke as the "joke" such as it was, and the universal character types that americans who worked in offices and saw it identified with immediately- also perfectly translated. and anybody who says otherwise just don't know what they fuck they are talking about. period. because they work in retail, or at a custard stand.

  • March 24, 2005, 11:20 p.m. CST

    Shoot me if you want, I dug it

    by HomerGator

    Ok, so it wasn't perfect by ANY means. But, you can see why, and if you watched bits from upcoming episodes and watched the things they changed here...there's a reason it will be funny and work. The points in tonight's episode that failed were the bits that were word for word and idea for idea a remake of the british pilot. It has been said this is the only episode to do that. The rest, go their own way (Loved the preview of them playing basketball...and, I'm sorry, but the social awareness and diversity day with everyone having to treat everyone like the ethnicity on their forehead bit had me cracking up, it's VERY David Brent). Yes, the show is different. Yes, Carrell's bos sis NOT David Brent. But there's a reason for that. Unlike in Britain, U.S. shows run longer than 6 episodes a season and longer than a 2 season run. Gervais and Merchant said it themselves, David Brent could not be stretched any further than those episodes because he would become too unlikable with his true colors exposed. This was evident in a lot of fans dislike of the second season Brent VS. the first season Brent. That hidden fear and sadness and aloof quality can't be sustained. It doesn't ring true. Carrell's boss...you may think is over the top, but I've WORKED for this guy, in a huge law firm no less. The American Gareth version is PERFECT. Snotty. Annoying. Tied to perfection. Attempting to fit in. Butt of jokes. He's fantastic. The Jim character, the one I was most worried about, fared very well in my opinion. He looks how he should...a not quite handsome lower management worker in a job for a couple years longer than he should have been. He plays it well, and doesn't attempt to ape Martin Freeman's amazing facial expressions. ANd the Dawn character, again, a very AMERICAN ersion of the real thing. I feel when these characters get to grow out of their british counterpart's shells and evolve, we'll see something great. Just remember, if a series works, you want more. And to make it work and to provde more, things have to be doled out. They don't worry about that on british TV...one of it's selling points AND shortcomings. Sometimes a small amount is just right, but me for me, I'm ACHING for more seasons of the amazing SPACED. In the U.S., when a show is a hit...you have time to enjoy it.

  • March 25, 2005, 12:44 a.m. CST

    Give me a break.

    by reversemigraine

    It's been almost a year since I last watched the first episode of the REAL series, and I still felt like I had heard those jokes a million times. They even regurgitated the "Whaaazaaaap?" scene. I knew they were sticking with plot points, but I assumed there'd be a little more originality than this. Maybe I should go back and see which Angel vet worked on this episode, because I don't understand the love. Herc can continue his Blu-Ray/HD-DVD obsession and hold off on seeing the real deal, but I own the DVDs and will stick with them.

  • March 25, 2005, 1:30 a.m. CST

    It was AWFUL!

    by MaxCalifornia.

    My God, they managed to suck everything funny and endearing out of the British version. Ricky's David Brent was obnoxious, arrogant, yet funny. The American guy has nailed exactly two out of three of those qualities. The 'Tim' looked like an Abercrombie and Fitch model, and the 'Gareth' was just bland and uninteresting. Kill this show now.

  • March 25, 2005, 1:51 a.m. CST

    he outing is filled with moments that make you cringe in discomf

    by John Anderton

    Hilarity!!1!one!!

  • March 25, 2005, 1:56 a.m. CST

    if you've seen the bbc one

    by jmc8y

    you'll probably hate it. because it's the first episode of merchant and gervais' the office, except not as good. if you haven't seen the bbc one, you'll probably like it.

  • March 25, 2005, 3:02 a.m. CST

    O.K. If it sucked so bad...what's better out there?

    by jtp972

    You know...everything gets slammed on these message boards. Do you people ever enjoy anything? It must suck to hate everything. Why do all of you even own TVs?? It seems like you don't like anything on it. It was amusing and, at least as far as AMERICAN sitcoms go (which, as others have pointed out, is what it needs to be compared to since most haven't seen the British version) it was unique in several ways: structure, pacing, the documentary style, the uncomfortable yet funny humor, etc. It didn't suck. It was alright...borderline good and IT WAS A FIRST EPISODE. That's another thing about posters here. They want to bury a show after one episode. It takes even the best shows 1 or 2 full seasons to get their legs. Relax. Stop griping. If you don't like it, don't watch it. It may or may not get better...but it's still not bad. I'd rather see it than "Will and Grace" or "Joey" any day. And Jenna Fisher...wow!! Why isn't she a star? Just couldn't take my eyes off her when she was on camera. Her character could easily become the kind of 'awkward girl that makes your heart melt' that Willow was on Buffy.

  • March 25, 2005, 5:58 a.m. CST

    SUCK SUCK SUCK SUCKITY SUCKED!!!

    by Napoleon Park

    I watched "The Office" and it sucked. I have never seen the original British version, so I have nothing to compare it to, but this sucked. There is a lot of televison that I do enjoy, but this sucked. Sit-coms I like include Arrested Development, The Simpsons, Will & Grace, Less Than Perfect, That tired old '70s Show and Desperate Housewives, but The Office totally sucked. If "Dilbert" only ran two years I don't know who thought giving the pointy haired boss a spin-off was a good idea, but this sucked. You COULD pay me enough to say I liked this - in the words of Lou Reed I'd "eat shit and say it tasted good" if someone would pay my hospital bill, but this really, really sucked. SUCKED. And don't get me wrong, I love getting sucked, but this sucked and not in that good way.

  • March 25, 2005, 6:09 a.m. CST

    Was bad. Definitely not good. Only worth watching for like.. the

    by krims0nknite

    The hitler joke was funny, and the "you're fired" joke was funny. This is not even comparable to the original office. Especially what's his name... The geeky guy with glasses. The person they have acting as that guy just sucks ass.

  • March 25, 2005, 6:29 a.m. CST

    Ok just re-watched it. It's not horrible, it's ok

    by krims0nknite

    Funny jokes: "my favorite people are someone someone bono, and probably god.. They've done the most for this world". Hitler joke. And the "prank". They really should have done more testing though and fired some of these people.... The assistant, she's ok but not great... The regional assistant really sucks as said before, the jellow joke was way funnier in the brit series because of the actor's reaction which is played poorly here. We'll see how it does, but I really don't think it'll work over time with that non funny douchebag playing the assistant to regional manager, the jokes with that guy were a huge part of liking the office.

  • March 25, 2005, 7:40 a.m. CST

    Napoleon Park

    by HomerGator

    Well, obviously you KNOW good television. WIll & Grace and Desperate Housewives. How could ANY show hope to compare to those two OH so witty and original programs. Good Lorad, between those and Napoleon Dynamite, I may actually start paying more attention to your reviews so that I can watch the exact opossite of what you reccomend. Will & Grace lost any decency after the second season when it became a cartoon parody of the characters with a special scooby doo guest star every week. And Desperate Housewives? Any show that Pamela Anderson TURNED DOWN before it picked up has been Hatcher just doesn't strike me as gold. Sure, the public is in love. But the public also loves "The SImple Life" and watching fat people sweat over "Donuts VS Jogging". Also, what's with the hatred towards the Gareth character in The America Office??? If you read or listened to the Gervais/Merchant commentaries on the Office, this is how the Gareth character was originally written. Tim and Gareth were supposed to physically resemble Laurel and Hardy. And Gareth was an uber nerd, fat, glasses, etc. So, they went back to this version when making the new series in order to give it it's own legs. No matter what, fans of the original will nitpick anything. If all the characters acted exactly the same as the original series, and were faithful, we'd have complaints about that too. So, give it more than ONE episode and see what happens. YOu might surprise yourself. Instead of saying "Oh my god, watched 1 second of the show, it SUCKED. What a waste of my one second. I could have been watching a second of Housewives"

  • March 25, 2005, 8:07 a.m. CST

    It was OK

    by MinasTirithII

    The original BBC version is far superior in every way.

  • March 25, 2005, 8:09 a.m. CST

    Where my Battlestar Review???

    by MinasTirithII

    That's why I'm here harry, post that sucker. OH, and Napoleon Dymnamite, good stuff.

  • March 25, 2005, 8:30 a.m. CST

    As someone who lives near Scranton, I can honestly say...

    by RenoNevada2000

    That the buildings shown in the opener and establishing shots are in Scranton. Wonder if this will help the tourist trade?

  • March 25, 2005, 9:29 a.m. CST

    "They're not going to mess with my chillin's"

    by Big Bad Clone

    I laughed my ass off at that joke. I'd like to see eps 2 & 3 when they use their own scripts before I pass judgement. The New Dawn is hot and I like how the new Jennifer had an even shorter skirt.

  • March 25, 2005, 9:51 a.m. CST

    Thanks to the American version, I finally figured out why I don'

    by ejcarter9

    This isn't a Situational Comedy. It's an Uncomfortable Situation Comedy. It's an Embarassing Moment Comedy. It's an Oh-my-that-was-awkward-wasn't-it Comedy. I've seen two episodes of the original and last night's American version, so I feel I've given it a chance. I understand why it's well received - it's not like the other comedies out there. You believe these people could really exist and you recognize the traits in other people you know. I get it. I just don't find it funny... like laughing during a funeral. Normally I love British comedy but this particular show rubs me the wrong way. Of course Carrell is a great choice to play the Gervais character. Chevy Chase might have done it more subtly, but Carrell is a good choice.

  • March 25, 2005, 11:50 a.m. CST

    The Docu thing only works on the BBC version

    by MinasTirithII

    The US version just makes it very odd. It won't be able to lick the balls of the english version, please.

  • March 25, 2005, 12:29 p.m. CST

    It sucked.

    by PwnedByStallone

    Hey Ancient Lights? How about Scrubs? An actual hysterical and original comedy. Not recycled garbage like this. Even Committed feels fresher than this crap. I'm a huge fan of the original and I tried to keep an open mind on this American version but it blew. I'm sorry. It's the lead guy. You just hate him. The original guy you hated but also pittied in a way. It doesn't work without the pitty.

  • March 25, 2005, 12:39 p.m. CST

    I liked it!

    by SeanMiller

    I am a huge fan of the original Brit version and I liked the first episode of the Amercan version. As a huge fan of the original I am happy to be getting an American version. Only because I think this premise can be extended longer than 12 episodes!! (not including the Christmas Special) I liked the first episode a lot. First, I thought Carrell did a very good job. He changed the character just enough not to make it a complete copy. I enjoyed his Six Million dollar man and hitler impersonation and also thought his comments about his idols was very funny. Bono came before God! I also feel the Carrell's version of the boss is not as stupid as Ricky's version, who was a complete dumb ass. I hope Carrell incorporates some good "office speak"! The actor who portrayed Jim was good and I believe will only get better in time. He doesn't have the same expressions as Tim, but he brings a sort of American charm to the role. The guy playing the Americanized version of "Garth" was good, but I still think he is really creepy. I can't get his character from Six Feet Under out of my head. I really liked the girl playing the "Dawn" character. She is also a thousand times better looking than the original Dawn. Anyways, this show will only get better in time. Unfortunately, there is no way this show is getting past six episodes. Most Americans don't know when to laugh unless there is a laugh track in place to guide them.

  • March 25, 2005, 12:42 p.m. CST

    Unconditionally awful...

    by spikeandjezebel

    I have never before posted to say how bad something is, as I try to be a positive person on these talkbacks. I tried to watch this show with an open mind, having loved the BBC version, and I'm afraid I had to turn it off after 10 minutes. Not one laugh - not one! The original version had a realism to every character, and was believable in it's humor. This was a bunch of actors trying and failing to imitate them. Just sad and awful. And my fiance, who has never seen the BBC version, did not laugh once. (Herc, you'll be happy to know that once we turned it off, we watched Angel on DVD...)

  • March 25, 2005, 12:43 p.m. CST

    Rent the original

    by muckfire

    The orginal BBC version is head and shoulders above this version. The four main characters on the Brit show, Brent,Time,Dawn, and Gareth are so much more real than the American ones. I like Carell, just not here, he lacks the constant giggle and manic searching that Gervais gave his character. I probably would have thought it was passable if I hadn't watched the 14 episodes of BBC's The Office. But, those are probably 14 of the greatest episodes in comedic TV history- everyone owes it to themselves to watch them.

  • March 25, 2005, 1:12 p.m. CST

    I LOVED IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    by J-Dizzle

    And I'm a Brit too!

  • March 25, 2005, 1:19 p.m. CST

    That the buildings shown in the opener and establishing shots ar

    by cookylamoo

    Well, I was there last year and if the big local attraction is a recreation of a ninteenth century coal mine, then no.

  • March 25, 2005, 3:29 p.m. CST

    Hermans Head...

    by REDD

    Yes, but will any show ever rival "Hermans Head". I submit that none will ever rival it.

  • March 25, 2005, 3:42 p.m. CST

    As a HUGE fan of the real Office

    by vekt0r

    ...this just didnt work for me. Maybe people that havent seen the Brits will find this one funny?

  • March 25, 2005, 3:44 p.m. CST

    Pretty Damn Funny

    by Itchy

    Okay - I admit it. I never bothered to watch the British original. I generally like British comedy but frankly, I don't have enough time to watch the TV I already get, let alone hunt down stuff from other countries. That being said, I though the show has real promise. Maybe it's because I work in an office, but every one of those characters is a slight (very slight) exaggeration of someone I've worked with throughout the years. I'll give this a chance, for sure ... and as for the chick who plays Pam the receptionist (Jenna Fischer?!?) - she gave me a stiffy. She's exactly the type of chick I zeroed in on at the office: Potentially very hot, a little unsure of herself, and so beaten down from being around a bunch of idiots all day that you could be the shining sun in her sky with little effort. If I was in that office, I'd have her bent over a copier by episode 4. And RenoNevada2000 - as for your question, no - the show will do nothing to improve tourism to Scranton. I've been to Scranton and, if I hadn't needed to fill up the tank, I wouldn't have stopped to take a leak in Scranton.

  • March 25, 2005, 3:53 p.m. CST

    Give it a chance

    by Mechakong

    I've seen the pilot and the "diversity day" ep and I laughed hard at both. No,it will never replace the Beeb version in my heart, but what could? And yes,I will always see the ghostly shadows of Martin Freeman and Ricky Gervais, Mckenzie Crook et, al lingering in the background, but so what? Almost all the beloved movies on this site like Spiderman,Lotr,Hellboy, Sin City etc, are adaptations of adored works,that differ in some way from the original. Hell even the precious Buffy series is a remake. If you get past seeing what came before, you can see the quality of the work being done here. John Krasinski is subtly clever as Jim, Jenna Fischer's Pam is almost more girlsh shy and appealing than Dawn, and Rainn Wilson's Dwight is simply genius. Nobody does pathetic and creepy better. And yeah Carell's Michel Scott is goofier and denser than Brent, but I think it's just as valid a take on the Middle management asshole. It's also easier to sustain dumb, than Brent's relentless, sleazy neediness. It's already a show I will make an effort to catch each week and given time NBC's show version may be pretty special.

  • March 25, 2005, 5:38 p.m. CST

    didn't AICN already say NBC was going to cancel this like a year

    by PlantBoy!

    I could have sworn I read on this site last summer that NBC's version of the Office was over before it started because it sucked. I watched it last night, and I have mixed thoughts. The guy who plays the Tim character (cleverly changed to "Jim" :| ) has Tim's mannerisms down pat, which is good for the comic delivery aspect, but it's sort of annoying that he's a carbon copy. Thankfully the Gareth replacement has been more significantly modified. I can see him being the bright spot of the show. The receptionist can't pull off the reactions as well as her English counterpart, and her "fiance" is a horrible actor. It seems like he's trying too hard to be a laid back asshole--a role the original guy played convincingly. And as good as Steve Carrell is, he is no Ricky Gervais when it comes to playing the boss. David Brent is pitiful in an endearing way; the American version of his character is like a hyperactive David Brent on crack and completely devoid of charm.

  • March 25, 2005, 6 p.m. CST

    As most of the people on this board have noted...

    by slone13

    ...it is quite apparent that Herc has never seen the original. What kind of idiot 'reviewer' doesn't even make himself familiar with the source material, especially when it's available on DVD and everyone and their mother has talked about how good the BBC verison is?

  • March 25, 2005, 6:08 p.m. CST

    Too obnoxious for 30 minutes

    by zekmoe

    It was like, Ok, I get it, he's a tool. Move on. I doubt this show will make it past the 3rd of 4th episode. 30 minutes of watching characters you don't like. I get enough forced socialization at my own office.

  • March 25, 2005, 6:20 p.m. CST

    "I don't have enough time to watch the TV I already get, let alo

    by howlingdervish

    http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-form/104-9876840-6348721 So much time. Go buy now.

  • March 25, 2005, 7:09 p.m. CST

    Astro Gator Master Baiter.

    by Napoleon Park

    Hi. Me again. I posted on this once before I saw it, and once afterwards. I didn't like it. A Homer Gator posted replies to my comments twice using my pseudoym as a subject line. His taste in comedy differs from mine, and I have no problem with that. ***** He erroneously identified me as a "Napoleon Dynamite fan" because apparently I wasn't being sarcastic enough when I called that film 'the thrill ride of the summer' in reference to how long the ads for it appeared here at AICN. That was intended as sarcasm. I never saw the movie and do not know what season it came out during. My nom de post "Napoleon Park" has no reference to that film. It my "porn star formula" name: your first pet plus the street you grew up on. And I named my cat Napoleon after The Man From U.N.C.L.E. ***** Someone said people who don't like "the Office" probably don't like any sit-coms, so I listed a few I do like. Mr. Gator critiqued "Will & Grace", which I enjoy, but I can't argue with his points since I said nearly exactly the same things about the show up in the post entitled "pronounced rice-cube". He also objected to my enjoying Desperate Housewives, which I mentioned becasue some people still think it's an hour drama and don't realize that not all sit-coms are thirty minute shows, and partly just because it bugs Herc that people remember he predicted it would be off the air by Thanksgiving. Gator spent half of his second diatribe telling me not to compare the American Office to the British original even though I clearly stated I had never seen the original and was judging what aired - and sucked - Thursday night entirely on its own merits. He also suggested I judged the episode based on watching one second of it - an obvious exagerration for humorous effect, but still a false implication, since my impression was based on watching the whole episode plus several different promos and coming attractions. ***** I prefer discussing shows I like over trashing shows I don't like but sometimes the AICN style of talkback is just too much fun to resist joining in. As for NBC's "The Office", based solely on the merits of having seen one episode and some promos, as Lt. Commander Data said after tasting alien liquor for the first time after having his emotion chip installed, "I HATE THIS. IT IS DISGUSTING! I REALLY HATE IT!!!" This obviously applies only to the one episode I have seen: if "the Office" lasts seven years and four feature films, has extensive cast substituions and is repeatedly reformatted it may have time to improve.

  • March 25, 2005, 7:53 p.m. CST

    well, that was awful, like i expected

    by Jarek

    Doesn't do justice to the original. It's dead and everything seems forced. Won't be watching another episode.

  • March 25, 2005, 8:38 p.m. CST

    spot-on satire

    by Trader Groucho 2

    Anyone tuning in expecting standard sitcom comedic structure would of course walk away from this thinking it sucked. Structurally and tonally, The Office is an anti-sitcom. It effectively satirizes office life. And yeah, there was too much Steve Carrell mugging in the opener, but almost everything we did see of the other characters is painfully true-to-life. This show can fail one of two ways - either the showrunners don't adequately develop the supporting characters and morph this into much more of an ensemble (Carrell's a great mugger, but mugging alone does not a series build), or the American target audience chooses to watch fantasy instead of this show because The Office hits a little too close to home. Aside from Rainn Wilson's Dwight, the supporting cast hit those notes of quiet desperation so well it could be disquieting to people who can identify closely with them but would rather identify with Spiderman. Dwight more effectively subliminates his desperation by power-tripping as effectively as he can (which isn't very), while Carrell's boss character shows the rare flash of awareness that he's in a deep rut, but what he doesn't seem to realize (yet) is that he truly doesn't have the skills to rise above the level he has somehow managed to reach.

  • March 25, 2005, 9:11 p.m. CST

    At best it's a Scrubs want-a-be..

    by Kelvington

    After watching Scrubs 4 camera episode where they parodied sit-coms so perfectly, it

  • March 26, 2005, 1:06 a.m. CST

    DIVERSITY DAY ONLINE

    by topaz4206

    Dunno why no one's mentioned this, but you can see a full 15 minutes (more than half) of the diversity day episode over at: http://www.myspace.com/theoffice ....... the chris rock bit had me in TEARS. Ill tune in every week just for steve carrell.... he is THE TRUTH!

  • March 26, 2005, 10:59 a.m. CST

    Wow! You either love it or hate it.

    by ejcarter9

    Okay, let me make a little analogy here. All of you people loving this show on this talkback, listen up. You're going to find yourselves on MY side of the Enterprise problem very soon. You love the Office and many here don't. You have your reasons for loving it and to YOU they're valid and the reasons for hating it by others are equally valid. When this show gets cancelled before too long how will you feel as you read the continuing negativity get heaped upon the Office? Will you get as angry as I did as Enterprise was villainized on these boards week after week? Paybacks a bitch.

  • March 26, 2005, 11:34 a.m. CST

    All New OFFICE

    by topaz4206

    So apparently, he Pilot is the only episode that uses the exact same script as the British show. From then on, they branch out will completely original scripts. I think this is a FANTASTIC idea. Someone go watch the diversity day clip (i posted the link above). It is 1000% funnier than the pilot! If this show lasts just the 6 episodes, i'll be thankful for every minute of it.