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L.D.K.A. takes in SIN CITY and is reduced to a sticky geeky amorphous throbbing mass of well pleasured flesh!
Hey folks, Harry here... I'm dying to see this film. Dying. All my doubts are officially gone. First off - I got a review - the type of reviews I despise that are literal step by step, shot for shot - that just spoils everything. I've chosen not to post it after talking with Moriarty & Quint - as there are going to be tons of reviews coming in on this movie - and they'll be all over the net. It sounds like Rodriguez and Miller nailed this one with railroad spikes. Beyond this - I've heard from a couple of folks that have seen it, as has Moriarty and the people we know... say it kicks unholy ass. Rodriguez? He's so happy with it that he's compulsively watching it over and over and over, unlike any film he's ever made, cuz he's so happy with it. Before I get to the main review - here's the opening of that spoiler review I was talking about - just so you can see how excited this comics professional (aka Killgore) got about the film:
I’m going to try to get through this without resorting to hyperbole or exaggeration and without resorting to comparing it to its source material. That said, Sin City is a remarkable film, burning high contrast images on the backs of your retinas (if I stare at a blank white surface, Marv jumps out at me, though I’d rather it be Alba), and the hard boiled Chandleresque characters are permanently burnt into the back of my skull. This is not an adaptation. Rodriguez has translated verbatim Frank Miller’s graphic novel into a bombastic, hyper-stylized, modern art movie. Miller’s comic has not only served as a basis for the film, but the panels themselves have transcended the page and are emblazed on the silver screen. And is it ever silver.
The titular city is a corrupt, hedonistic city that exists somewhere between the Chicago of Scarface and the sensational (first person that uses the adjective sin-sational to describe it gets his nuts ripped off) universe of Kill Bill. The Bride could easily hack her way through these tittie bars and brothels. The seedy characters here drive 1930’s era Studebakers and speak in film noir lingo.
Ok - and now for the star attraction... A warning though... this review may in fact create such a fanatical lusting for this film that you will be rendered utterly useless till April 1st - and for the subsequent weeks after you too have been made drooly by this flick. Here ya go...
harry, you haven't used any of my previous early reviews, but maybe now you might, if only because now the early review in question is for SIN CITY.
a little background--i'm a college student in boston, and my girlfriend got us tickets to a 2:30 PM sneak preview screening of SIN CITY at the Loews down the street; what's even cooler is the theater brought in a digital projector to show it. i don't know how she got 'em, i don't wanna know, but after seeing this film, i'm cool with whatever method of persuasion my little vixen of a gal used to score two tickets.
because this movie rocks.
hard.
you really have no idea. the previews rock, but the movie is so much more than any of them, with or without the music by the servants (the music in the movie is fine, but john debney, rodriguez, and graeme revell did it, not the servants). and best of all, i got to see it early. you all now have to sweat it out until April 1. well, maybe not you, harry, if only because you and rodriguez are tight. but hey, it sucks for me too, because the only thing i wanna do now is see SIN CITY again.
for those of you who don't know the plot, here's a brief summary:
story 1: the hard goodbye. initally called just sin city, the hard goodbye follows marv on his quest for vengeance after goldie, the one good thing in his life, is murdered next to him.
story 2: the big fat kill. this story follows dwight, a murderer with a new face, as he teams up with the prostitutes of Old Town to deal with the potentially fatal repercussions of killing dirty cop Jack Rafferty.
story 3: that yellow bastard. hardigan, the only decent cop in Sin City, squares off against Senator Roark as well as Roark's vicious, child molesting son Junior in an attempt to protect young Nancy Callahan.
additionally, these three stories are bookended with some short scenes dealing with Josh Hartnett's hitman character. the first one a lot of you have seen, i'm sure, when the comicon footage premiered online months ago, but the last one is new and a great way to end the movie.
this movie is almost a fuckin' masterpiece. even though i'm still jazzed by the whole experience, i can safely say it's the most visceral movie experience i've had in a long while, as well as maybe my new favorite comic book movie of all time (beating out superman 1 and 2, X2, and spiderman 2). i've only a few minor qualms, which i'll get to in a second, but they keep the movie at a 9, maybe only 9 and a half, than the perfect 10 it could be.
as much as i love what michael mann did with his high-def camera on collateral, rodriguez tops him on SIN CITY. harry, remember when you worried that the HD wouldn't look as good as film stock shot bu guillermo navarro? well, don't panic. the HD is positively lush, with great, rich blacks, greys, and whites. this looks like the bastard son of all the great '40s noir films ever made. and i mean that in the best way possible, i mean it as a compliment.
not only does rodriguez top mann, he also tops kerry conran and his digital work on sky captain. all the sets in this movie are CGI'ed in as well, but they feel real. the characters interact with them, rather than around them (my biggest sky captain qualm). best yet, this movie just feels like rodriguez simply filmed miller's comics. in a way, that's the best thing i could say about this movie. visually, it IS the comics, with the white characters on black backgrounds being particularily striking (josh hartnett and marley shelton kissing, or clive owen sinking to his doom in tar). i've always been a fan of rodriguez's directing style, but here, it truly seems like he gave the camera to frank miller and said "you know this world, you direct it." and miller hit a homerun. i know, going into the movie, i was jazzed about QT's guest contribution and picking it out, but i got so enrapped in the movie that i forgot all about it. no scene screams "tarantino" or "rodriguez," but it all screams "miller." great work, frank.
and what a work it is. it looks great, sounds great, and is ably supported by a great team of actors. the standouts, for me, are mickey rourke as marv and bruce willis as hartigan. frank miller proclaimed that "rourke is Marv," and he's dead on in his assessment. but more than simply being faithful to the look and sound of marv (which, admittedly, any big guy could do a serviceable job), rourke captures the man's soul. and it's wounded, man. we feel his pain in the loss of goldie, his worries that he might be losing his sanity, and all his primal anger. but, under it all, rourke makes us see the essential good in marv. in a way, it's almost like rourke's harry angel; a hard, scarred, tough as nails SOB, but with a good soul nothing (and i mean NOTHING) can touch. rourke is back with a vengeance, and his performance should garner more acclaim than it probably will. and willis, for the first time since Unbreakable, seems really alive in his work. he's magnetic, restrained rather than bored, and so intense in his pursuit of justice (so much so that what he does, like much in this movie, might make you squeam) that you can take your eyes of him. he's weary, broken-down, and almost dead, but he knows what's right and will stop at nothing to do so. following his beyond-phoned it in work in Hostage, Willis's hartigan is one of his best roles ever, and hopefully he will start taking on more challenging roles. do not worry, any of you naysayers, because he is better than clint eastwood could have ever been.
but really no one in the cast is a slacker. clive owen's american accent is a little dodgy, but he captures dwight's righteous fury like a pro and is aces reading miller's hard-boiled voice overs. james king and carla gugino are badass as well, and are extremely hot and naked in this movie (especially gugino---damn!!! this gal needs to do us all a favor and pose for playboy because she is a goddess). devon aoki is the darth maul of this movie, and her swordwork might steal away the movie from everybody else if the rest of the movie wasn't so good. michael clarke duncan always fares best in bad guy roles, and scores here as well. rosario dawson is obviously having a blast as gail, relishing the chance to kill lots of people, dress like the hottest bondage girl you've ever seen, and make out with clive owen (in a non-sex scene that was as hot as any full nudity sexual romp i've ever seen). she seems happy to be having fun rather than languishing in Alexander.
josh hartnettespecially hauer, who's magentic in his three minutes of screentime. plus, elijah wood, benicio del toro, and nick stahl are three of the sleaziest villians i've ever seen in the movies. del toro has the least screentime of the three, but his work is reminisent of young brando. really creepy, over-the-top, and loving every minute of it. the fact that he gives his all in a small role like this and blows a leading role in The Hunted really shows the faith he had in this project. between this and Bully, stahl is cornering the market on playing twisted young men, and it's a tribute to his skill that Junior is just as hideous before his "change" as he is after (although he's much much much more attractive before). and wood? i'm gonna say the least about him and leave it as a surprise for you to discover. all i'll say is that frodo baggins is dead, with this one performance, and wood IS simply terrifying and disturbing as kevin. hell, people in the audience were so unnerrved by him that they gasped EVERY TIME he came on screen.
before i get to the negatives, lemme assure you of two things.
1) the narration in the comics is still in the movie. i would say that probably 80% of it was kept, and it is terrific. owen, willis, and rourke all do a great job with it, and it enhances, rather than detracts from, the film. great stuff.
2) this movie is violent as hell. you have no idea unless you've read the comics, and even then you'll probably be surprised at how much rodriguez and miller have gotten away with. sure, they use some tricks like making blood yellow or white instead of red (at times; other times it's red as ever), but it's still one of the most graphically violent films i've ever seen. there are no clean wounds or slick violence in this film; it's all ragged and bloody and spurting and unclean and downright mean looking. the two grisly piece-de-resistances? hartigan's final confrontation with junior and marv's "little chat" with kevin. gore hounds are gonna cream themselves.
now the negatives. michael madsen is kinda wasted. after his work in Kill Bill, which is better than his Mr. Blonde, his work as Bob (hartigan's partner) is disappointing. sure, he has less to work with, but he just seems listless and bored (especially when acting alongside Willis). additionally, jessica alba's choice to keep her clothes on hurts the film rather than helps it. i'll admit, she's fine (acting-wise) as nancy, a lot better than i had thought and probably the best she's ever been in a movie, but when the rest of the female cast is so willing to be either naked or semi-nude (as is bruce willis), her refusal to do so stands out.
still, this is a movie to see, again and again, on its release date on april 1st. provided the MPAA doesn't cut it to shreds (and it might; the version we saw was unrated), this is the most faithful adaptation of a comic ever made. god bless frank miller, god bless robert rodriguez, and god bless the entire cast for getting behind this film.
if you choose to use this, call me Lloyd Dobler Kicks Ass
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Good review, cant wait.....
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Cool, Im hearing good things all over from these test screenings.
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There was a really cool NASCAR commercial with CG characters in the Sin City high contrast style. I always thought that technique would be a perfect way to capture the Sin City saga, but I must admit that I'm eagerly awaiting my shot at seeing this. Rodriguez gets major points for involving Miller in such an organic fashion. Would that we could get the same type of collabo with Moore for a Watchmen project. A guy can dream can't he?
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if you aren't willing to do them. Give the job to someone else. I am seriously looking forward to this film regardless.
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For the unedited article, check out http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5273557
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Mar 16, 2005 7:46:58 PM CST
Jessica Alba can be seen stark naked in the current GQ
by maxcalifornia.
Hand lotion sold separately.
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April 1st can't come fast enough for me.
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I've been hard for this movie since I heard they were making it. That would explain the fainting and general dizziness. My friends and I have already made plans to bum rush the theater when this comes out...then maybe turn around and see it again! I agree about the lack of naked Jessica Alba, I've a couple of buddies who are insane about her who'll be crushed.
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But I couldn't stop typing dammit!!! I tried not to over inflate it, but it's only been a day and I already wear Sin City like a X shaped scar on my mug!!!
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Mar 16, 2005 8:34:11 PM CST
OH SHIT, I think I just crapped my pants!! ERgh can't fucking WA
by iamjacksuserid
Goddamn! Anyway, don't worry about unrated cut, I am sure it will be on DVD if not the theatrical cut.
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i am so down with this movie ever since i bought That Yellow Bastard to read on the flight home from San Fran back in 1999.
I'm not the biggest comic freak, but i thoroughly enjoyed The Dark Knight while trying to make friends in college so long ago. when i saw Frank had done a noir detective story based in gritty reality, i forked over my $4.50 and read TYB on the way home and was stunned.
the fact that Rodriguez had taken the source material and made something in loving homage to one of my all time faves - i was both anxious and hopeful.
every trailer i've seen so far makes me feel more confident and happy that this excellent story got its due on film.
this is an exciting time to be a movie fan. i'm in line on the first day for this. i hope the reviewers aren't plants, and that this can truly be, not only one of the great comic hero movies that's been so trendy in the last few years, but one of the great noir films of this century.
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I tingle!
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A SIM CITY movie? Geez, is there any computer game they won't make a movie out of? I'll bet that they'll way overemphasize the tornadoes, the monster attacks, and the nuclear meltdowns, and they won't explore some of the more intruiging aspects of the plot of the game, like how if you replace streets with railroad tracks around a zone, the property value will actually go up! And, if they mention the Laffer curve at all, it will be as an in-joke regarding the boring lecture that Ben Stein, as the teacher, gave in FERRIS BUELLER'S DAY OFF, as though the exciting subplot of determining the best tax rate for your city to maximize revenue while encouraging economic growth isn't enthralling enough in and of its own and needs to be reduced to a cheap punchline.------------------------ Oh, pardon me, there's no M in the title? Oops. Carry on, then. :P
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Plants don't post in TBs.
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i saw that on entertainment weekly or something and I am starting to believe.
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that "Cells" by The Servant (the song in the trailers) isn't in the movie. It's like if "Battle Without Honor or Humanity" hadn't been in Kill Bill Vol. 1 or "Let Go" hadn't been in Garden State.
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In the state of Kentucky that could be considered a threat. But I mean it, you old fucking catholic fucks can be offended by all the marionette sex you want, but that dosn't give you a goddamn right to unfairly rate movies. If a single second of Sin City gets cut because of you motherfucking godless cocksuckers, I will hunt you down give it back like whats I done to that priest fellow... -Marv
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Mar 16, 2005 10:40:20 PM CST
Holy God check this pic of Alba out. *Warning- may cause intense
by iamjacksuserid
http://men.style.com/slideshows/mens/standalone/gq/feature/031505ALBA/00006m.jpg
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Mar 16, 2005 11:26:43 PM CST
I'm glad this movie appears to rock, but fuck jessica alba up he
by anlashok
Uhm, hmmm, that didn't quite have the punch I thought it would.
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I hate it when films are already a pre-determined 'great' film purely on the basis that fan-boy favourites are creating it. Much like Kill Bill was. Before it came out people were already saying it's the best QT film ever. QT did it so it must be perfect. Back to Sin City...It was genius for them to have Frank Miller direct this (co-direct my ass, he designed the shots, wrote the script - all Rodriguez and QT are doing is facilitate the translation and do a great job of casting) because now we have Frank Miller (who apparently does no wrong as well) and QT on one movie. Hell this should just about be the perfect movie.
Now the trailers look cool. The whole HD/CGI backgrounds is still a bit dodgy to me. Sky Captain looked like a Command & conquer intro movie with the characters not believably mixing with the backgrounds. Though it also had poor performances and a poor storyline. Hopefully Sin City doesn't have the same problems and is indeed as cool as it looks. Fingers crossed. -
Mar 17, 2005 12:40:47 AM CST
There's no "Sim City" movie, but there's a "7 Deadly Sims" site
by frankdrebin
http://www.7deadlysims.com/
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Mar 17, 2005 12:47:24 AM CST
Just saw a trailer for a war movie (can't recall the name) where
by frankdrebin
Because the MPAA doesn't care about violence, only the color red (which is how movies like "The Mummy" get away murder...literally).
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Sim City is not a violent game. Why is it these HollyWood hacks always have to trash up a perfectly good suburban story with all these elements? Just based on that review, I'll skip this one and rent the game instead/.
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SIN CITY doesn't even have a release date here in Austria. The same goes for many other European countries. It goes without saying that that sucks dog anus in many, many ways. Usually, when a film doesn't get a release here I just download it but I don't want to watch something as cinematic as SIN CITY obviously is and one of my most anticipated films of 2005 (alongside DEVIL'S REJECTS and LAND OF THE DEAD) in a crappy, cropped, shaky cam version. My last hope is that SIN CITY makes a ton of money in the US because that's what usually convinces distributors here to release a movie.
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it happened to sky captain
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Mar 17, 2005 2:04:16 AM CST
"He also tops conran and Sky Captain. All the sets in this movie
by triumph poops!
I sure hope so because between the Yahoo photos I saw (comparing blank set to finished shot) and the current TV ads, the backgrounds look as fake as shit and like a tagged on element that the actors are definitely not a part of. Very Sky Captainish where some shots just scream CGI faked background. They just look "off" and your eye can naturally detect it, based on our daily living IN a real world. Still, I'm very much rooting for the movie and will see it opening weekend, so here's keeping fingers crossed it all looks better projected in a theater...
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I've been familiar with FM's work since the early 1980s. I read the Robocop2 script long before the film was made. I read his Hard Boiled but never picked up on Sin City. The film is an anthology film and is approachable by people like myself unfamiliar with the characters. That said, it doesn't add up to a whole lot (just as the Bob Crane bio-pic rang hollow). I kept being reminded of equally brutal moments in classic film noir crime dramas (like Mickey Spillane nailing a man's hand to the floor in The Girl Hunters). The violence here seems overpowering and at times the visual styling detracts from the film as a whole. Watching that opening scene your eyes may be drawn to the red dress looking for any flickering grey rather than paying attention the whole composition of the scene. As the film proceeds, the bizarre composite techniques are more easily digested but they still reminded me of former cartoon hybrids especially Liquid Television's adaptation of Charles Burns' Dog Boy (and had me wondering "if only if, Black Hole???..."). Getting back to the violence, have to wonder what point it serves other than numbing the senses. Ichi the Killer was more graphic in the sadism (no sliced nipples in Sin City, although there are spectacular tits and ass) but Ichi made ultraviolence work as it combined elements of A Clockwork Orange and Taxi Driver. Sin City didn't suck and it brings you into a unique world but it ain't so original as to make other films irrelevant. I think it will hold up under repeated viewings and maybe it will grow on me.
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The CGI backgrounds/animations work here much better than in Sky Captain in part because the story(ies) is/are much better. Whereas in Sky Capt. the animation tried to sell you a "false reality" of dinosaurs/robots/hydroplanes, Sin City uses the graphics to convey an artificial "comic book" story in a dark "alternate reality". It can be dreamlike or low budget, take your pick, but the artifice does not invalidate the story. Sky Captain only had effects and visuals while leaving out the plot and character development. Make me wonder how good a film could have been made from American Splendor if it had been an anthology film instead of a biopic about a guy who writes comics about his life (who gets cancer and is cured in 15 minutes). I just hope that I don't see more reviews like I saw for Constantine claiming "it is good despite its comic book origins". Comic adaptations from Alan Moore and Frank Miller (with nods to Will Eisner and Hugo Pratt) need no such excuse.
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Anyone who rights in with that handle deserves to be trusted above all others. This movie is going to kick so much ass. I manage a theatre, and I took down our Batman Begins poster and replaced the final Sin City poster after watching the new preview over and over and over... Dissapointing there's no servants in it, and yea... naked alba would be a plus. but who cares? i'm stoked.
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I'm sure the staff keep journals along the lines of... EASYBAKEOVEN goes to "The Laundromat" and gets his drawers washed!" Madd4PhreakBeats visits his grandma AND GETS KISSED! TooEmbarassedToRentPornWhenTheresAFemaleCashier reaffirms his handle. Montgomery Clift's Table sees "DUST" And F&#!@n' Vacuumz It!!!
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Mar 17, 2005 6:02:43 AM CST
This film looks cool and different - (and to all you retards, yo
by lezbo milk
CGI is not the root of all evil. It either works or not. Bad CGI can be lived with if the movie is well done and entertaining. Great CGI can leave a bad taste in your mouth if it is in a bad film. Sometimes you assholes can't tell the difference. Shit, I still love Mary Poppin's, and that mixes live action and animation, and it looks like shit...but the movie is still good. Sky Captain was a shitty movie, but a bunch of you scream and whine like little school girls about the sucky CGI, it didn't suck, the movie did. There were some beautiful shot there, probably equall in quality to anything you will see in Sin City, but because the movie will probably rule, you will say "oh the CGI is wayyyyy better". Well it fucking isn't. It's just in a cooler movie. Hell, TPM had better effects than the Matrix, but the Matrix won the best SFX Oscar, for bullet time...which by the way was being done in a fucking Subaru commercial with Jude Nelson 8 months prior to the filming of the Matrix. Go figure.
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April 1st can't come soon enough. This is the most faithful comic adaptation ever filmed, and its based on the slickest comic saga of them all.
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I'll tell you what. A 15 minute, well lit totally nude lesbo orgy with Jessica Alba, Alexiz Bledl, Brittany Murphy, Carla Gugino and Rosario Dawson. I mean, damn ... whoever did the casting on this thing definately had an eye for the ladies. As for Jessica Alba, trust me girl - the only thing keeping you away from superstardom is your shirt - lose it.
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This is Sin City, not Risque City.
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"or clive owen sinking to his doom in tar..."
thanks for that, can't wait to see Sin City. Wonder what happens to Clive Owen in the film?
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So she hooks up with Hartigan before she gets 'em out. A deviation from the book that works, and anyway in the original series it was like 5 or 6 pages of gratuitous (yeah, even for Sin City) full page shots of Nancy's lil's, and movie-wise would've taken up what? 15 seconds of film time? I'm pretty sure this won't ruin the movie.
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...and i couldn't be more delighted. one of those perfect meetings of actor and role, even better, it would seem, than der mick's cameo in _animal factory_ (no joke, that was brilliant!). here's to mr. rourke career resuscitation...oh, and, yeah, the film looks good to. BUT! isn't this a co-direction by rodriguez & miller? i believe it is, and commentary from autuerist fanboys should reflect this fact, no?
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Don't worry about that little tidbit. It's not really a spoiler. No one said it's easy to do the right thing in Sin City.
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. . . but have to add that Harry already loves it; could have written his graphic, bodily fluid dripping review of it the second Rodriguez got the job.
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This guy rules! "You must chill! You must chill! I have hidden your keys!"
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Mar 17, 2005 11:37:53 AM CST
you know the shit is fine when the negatives are certified chick
by atomheartbrother
now all i need from my comic book shop is MY ticket for a sin city sneak peak and i'll be in business because sin city looks and sounds like it is the shit. the shit!
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Once again, they have a (hopefully) great movie on their hands, and the marketing idiots don't know what to do with it. This movie opens in two weeks, and I've seen no advertisement other than on this site.
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it's only a threat if you use zombies in your post!
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1. i dunno a single thing about the Sin City stories, but the trailers make this look HOT!
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And dirtay? Rory!
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it just goes to show you how shitty of an actress she is. She has no dedication to her craft whatsoever. I ask you, WHO signs on a movie called "Sin City" to play a motherfucking STRIPPER and then objects to the actual STRIPPING part of her role? A fucking moron that's who. While the movie is still going to kick all kinds of ass, I'm disappointed that Robert Rodriguez, of Rebel without a Crew fame, who has always struck me as a maverick filmmaker, would bend over and let Alba fuck him with this nonsense. Had I been Robert, and I had be faced with Alba's refusal to actually play the role she signed to play because she has insecurities with her body being put on display, I would've told her to walk. Fuck her. Find a better calibur actress. I imagine the studio must have insisted that he have Alba regardless of her willingness to play ball. I find it absurd, also,, if the only reason Alba wouldn't get nude is because she is against the objectification of women in movies, yet she has no problem poledancing.
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is the TRUTH!
Hot damn! here's another one from GQ: http://www.thesuperficial.com/archives/ja14.jpg ---- Alexis Bledel you're still my girlfriend though, i only see jessica when you're out of town ;p -
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It's not about some kind of liberal Hollywood agenda. Therefore, no Oscar.
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a) I FINALLY saw a Sin City ad today on TV...E! I think or maybe Sci-Fi, can't remember exactly I was half asleep but woke up fast!...and b) does Jessica Alba even know what is means to be against the objectification of women in movies...is she THAT smart or did some exec or agent convince her that she didn't need to get naked
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Mar 17, 2005 3:27:00 PM CST
I think Sin City looks like great, exciting cinema. I wonder if
by barry egan
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"now the negatives. michael madsen is kinda wasted." Everything about this review is way too positive. It reads like an overly enthusiastic teachers pet vying for attention and licking ass.
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Sorry to disappoint, but I attended a screening last week. I also suspect plantage here because: "i don't know how she got 'em, i don't wanna know, but after seeing this film, i'm cool with whatever method of persuasion my little vixen of a gal used to score two tickets." Sorry, I don't believe that. First of all, you'd have asked how she got 'em; give me a break. Second, screenings like this generally don't issue 'tickets'. If passes are handed out to the public they are 'admit-two'. Try again.
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Does that mean he showed up on set one day and just wouldn't fucking leave?
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...news indeed. I've been quietly anticipating this one for a while now (largely bvecause I'm afraid if my wife finds out how badly I want to see it, she won't want to go), and the preliminary reports are all encouraging. Oh... and Lloyd Dobler is just an unhappy ending away from being Martin Blank. Think about it. "I gave her my heart, she gave me a pen." - Lloyd. "Thanks for the pen." - Martin. There are many more parallels that seem to indicate that Grosse Pointe Blank is some sort of alternate reality sequel to Say Anything in which Lloyd didn't get the girl, joined the army as his father intended and became a professional killer. There are other worlds than these.
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Mar 17, 2005 6:28:35 PM CST
The marketing campaign is such a bust, I can't imagine this open
by charles grady
That's too bad; I mean, this is pretty much THE best cast assembled in the last few years, and the ads/trailers barely sell the unbelievable amount of cool actors on hand; Without punching up the presence of Owen or Del Toro or Murphy or Willis, etc, etc, all we're left with is footage that may look cool to US on a comic book-movie web site, but is TOTALLY alienating to date-night couples in Middle America; Honestly, do you think the MISS CONGENIALITY 2/THE PACIFIER audience knows what to make of a CGI-looking stylized graphic novel? Think generic couples who listen to John Mayer are gonna go see something with a guy called "Yellow Bastard"? Even the KILL BILL movies bottomed out at a certain point and couldn't really crossover past the core QT/hipster audience, and that had the advantage of not being mostly animated; I'm not saying that it doesn't look very "COOL" to geeks, but to the Joe Schmo crowd who lines up for PACIFIER, this is a mega-bomb in the making that will make SKY CAPTAIN'S b.o. failure look dignified.
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It was amazing. I've never read the comics before and was floored. I'm not usually a fan of the too literal comic book look but it sure did work here. Saw it projected digitally and it was gorgeous. Few nitpicks, the Clive Owen section wasn't as good as the rest of the movie and I felt some of the female cast members were a bit weak but still great anyway. Mickey Rourke was terrific. I really want to see this again.
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Same as a "special guest star" in a theatrical movie I guess.
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Mar 17, 2005 7:27:04 PM CST
Holy stray dogs sweating in the hot afternoon of gun smoke steam
by neosamurai85
I never needed a review to jazz me about this. I
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Nice review... very nice. Peace.
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Mar 17, 2005 9:44:32 PM CST
"I got a review - the type of reviews I despise that are literal
by archduke_chocula
Worst still is someone released three books ruining the whole thing for viewers :P
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Mickey Rourke and Powers Boothe in the same movie? Hot damn, they should have gotten Walter Hill as "special guest director"!!!
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The success of a film is not weighed by how many people see it, but how many people remember it and love it after the hype fades out. A good film is also one that has an influence on future generations of filmmakers. Independence Day was a blockbuster and thus a masterpiece where Jimi Hendrix was just a one-hit wonder and thus, by suc logic, a lesser artist than the Backstreet Boys. As long as they at least break even I couldn
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Good word, did you make it yourself?
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"I'm totally and completely serious." Never read the comics, but I love noir, therefore am very excited.
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I think this looks like it will be a very good movie; personally, I can't wait to see it. However, I think it will probably bomb at the box office. I think the fact that it's largely in black and white is a plus (there should be more contemporary b&w films)but the average moviegoer probably will stay away because of it. The teenagers who ruin the movigoing experience will say it looks "stupid" ("stylized" = "stupid" to them) and fight each other for tickets to to see Ring 2.
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Fair enough it could be a very "successful" movie without being financially successful, but I know that I for one would still prefer it to make alot of money, just to prove Rodriguez/Miller etc. right. And I thought Jessica Alba just used a body double, because otherwise that's just stupid. And to whoever said that Jessica Alba is only in films BECAUSE of the objectification of women - damn straight. Somebody really needs to tell her that her acting talents aren't as upfront as her other talents.
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I am sitting in the UK, at my desk working on some dull computer testing. The Sun is shining outside and all I can think about is Sin City and the lack of a UK fucking release date!
I must have watched the trailer about 60 times. It's near perfect. But I have a bad feeling that because of the 'tards who made pacifier go to number one in the charts, this will never appear on screen in the UK. If they don't go to the cinema in numbers, it'll never see the light of day on good ole blighty.
Looks like the brothers Winestain have fucked me again. Those fat lazy good for nothing fucks should have been promoting this from the outset. As it has been pointed out, the cast alone is enough to make most people get off their asses and to the cinema. My only hope is that word of mouth knocks this baby off the Planet. It's unlikely to do Passion of the Christ numbers cos hey, there probably isn't enough sadism in it.
So I implore you all, get your friends, relatives and casual acquaintances into the cinema. It's not exactly a hard sell. We have Sex, Violence and Big name actors/Actresses. Tell everyone about it. It'd be better if they all went and hated it rather than for it to die an undignified death at the box office.
Don't underestimate the power of this site. It might not be able to make or break films like it used to, but WE CAN. People power is the name of the game.
Oh and for those curious about real bad ass graphic novels and comic books. Check out the entire Sin City series and The Watchman by Frank Miller and Alan Moore. I spent two weekends immersing myself in those fabulous worlds. I only wish it had been sooner.
SO just to recap, I implore you guys in the States to see this multiple times and get every guy and his gal to the cinema to catch this flick. I need my SIN CITY on the big screen, in the UK.
Do it today, for the geek from the UK. :) -
However, I couldn't care less if the 'general public' don't get it. Fuck them up their Bridget Jones Diary asses. As long as it's faithful (Miller co-directed for the love of fuck) nothing will change how much it kicks right off
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Mar 18, 2005 12:39:55 PM CST
Can someone here make the 11 minute Sin City Featurette Download
by orionsangels
I don't think anyone here has the skill to do it - http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hv&cf=mf_frame&id=1808560210&mspid=&mfurl=http://mediaframe.yahoo.com/launch?lid=wmv-700-p.1350400-145981,wmv-100-p.1350398-145981,wmv-300-p.1350399-145981,wmv-56-p.1350397-145981&p=movies&f=1808560210&.spid=1808663232&.dist=Dimension%20Films&type=m%22,737,503);
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No, financial success does not mean a movie is any good. The reason I want the public to support movies like Sin City and give this movie lots of money is because a large box office will make studios more inclined to fund risky films. The reason we keep getting assaulted with a massive ammount of crappy movies is that people spend a lot of money on them, so the studios keep making them.
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Mickey Roarke? (Wracking brain trying to think of anything I ever liked him in... nope.) That girl from that Dark angel show that tanked? The bass player from Josie and the Pussycats. Wow, what a cast. And it's based on a comic I got bored with after the second mini-series? And it needed three directors? Hey, that worked for Casino Royale. Sounds great. Wake me when it's on TBS next year.
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Nice. Good line.
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"...and God help you if you use voice-over in your work, my friends. God fucking help you!" ...other than that, i have no hopes for this film. i just want to see some flaccid, sloppy translation from book to screen.
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I agree with you on the general publics taste. For over thirty years I've been a witness to what the masses adore; and as always I've found their collective taste...less than stellar.
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Has anyone seen Henry Rollins' movie show on IFC? There's one episode/month, and in the most recent he had a great rant on not supporting crap with you money. If anyone gets IFC, you have to TIVO his show.
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Mar 19, 2005 12:44:01 AM CST
Of course the mainstream audience will have a different taste th
by dented helmet
Just like you will probably have different taste in cars than a car buff, or different taste in wine than a wine conoisseur (sp). People that have a hobby in a certain area, tend to have more refined taste in that area. So us film fans here on the AICN talk backs are most likely going to have hire standards/be more likely to go see an experimental film.
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But I don't think Sin City would become tainted by sequelitis. If I remember correctly, Rodriguez and Miller (or maybe just Rodriguez) mainly funded this film. And I know after Miller's corporate cock shafting by the studios in the whole Robocop script writing debacle, he is likely to make sure he still has tight control on the rights to Sin City. Like I said, I don't really care about box office success. I do care about seeing this in the UK on the big screen. And that depends on bums on seats in the US of A. Simple. It's the 'Napoleon Park' attitude that worries me. But I believe he is a classic example of why this film may not have any widespread appeal. It is at the end of the day, a Black and White experimental film. And because of it's ensemble nature, all the major stars only really have small roles. But fuck it. Who really cares. As long as it is out UnRated on region one DVD, I'll just watch it on my mates 42" Hitachi Plasma. He says I don't come and see him enough anyway. Oh and in response to Das Janke, you may want to ask your screen writing teacher about Film Noir. Or maybe u just slep through that class.
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All of Film Noir was a commercial knock off of Citizen Kane's experimental technique (maybe mixed with some German silent era avant garde...).
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Casino Royale wouldn't have sucked if the studio hadn't bent over to Orson Welles and fired Peter Sellers. What at hack that fat fuck turned out to be. Nat'l Lampoon had it right with their paper model of Orson doing a magic trick on the Tonight Show. From Kane to this???
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