IGN Sources: SciFi Channel Execs Find New DR. WHO
“Sci Fi Channel has already had a chance at the new [Dr. Who] series and passed after viewing some of the completed episodes. Some of the executives at the network found the series somewhat lacking and didn't think it would fit into the network's schedule,” a source tells the Internet Gaming Network.
The show bow in the United Kingdom in less than a month.
Read the whole IGN blurb here.
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March 3, 2005, 11:44 p.m. CST
Doesn't it stand for Imagine Gaming Network, since it was spawned by Imagine Publishing? Any case, I'll be watching Doctor Who on CBC, if I can only find some info on the air date and time. They picked it up, allegedly they'll air it the same day as in Britain, but I don't feel like taping 24 hours of CBC. BTW, is it just me or doesn't anyone else find this Quick Talkback text box really tiny?
March 3, 2005, 11:45 p.m. CST
March 4, 2005, 12:24 a.m. CST
On one hand, Sci Fi has worked hard for years building its reputation as the absolute dumbest network on television (narrowly beating out Fox). On the other hand, over the last year they've *started* to turn things around. Either way, this is another clear sign that they don't even know who their audience is. Anyone looking forward to more Stargate? Didn't think so.
March 4, 2005, 12:28 a.m. CST
gallifreyone.com just confirmed what we've all known for months, the show premieres in the UK (and on the internet) on March 26th (CBC is early April)
March 4, 2005, 12:37 a.m. CST
by Larry of Arabia
is that Sci-Fi won't end up cancelling it just as it's popularity spikes or cult starts to mainstream. The other good news is that Q Magazine, the British magazine that is the arbiter of mainstream hipster over there, positively loves it. "it's every bit as good as its mid-'70s heyday."
March 4, 2005, 12:41 a.m. CST
Damn. Same time as Gilmore Girls. Once again, I'm glad we get CBC on Seattle cable, even if there's no hockey this year.
March 4, 2005, 12:44 a.m. CST
by Frank Einstein
The following review of the new Doctor Who series appears in the new issue of British music magazine Q: Headline: The Man Who. Meet the all-new Timelord. Now with added rock'n'roll. Doctor Who. BBC1, time and date TBC.**** Q Recommends. HERE'S A PROMISE: as soon as the spooky electronic theme tune strikes up and the swirly new title sequence kicks off, with the TARDIS spinning merrily around in space like it's never been away, you are guaranteed to experience both the thrill of nostalgia and a shiver of genuine excitement. After a nine-year hiatus - Paul McGann played the lead in a forgettable special in 1996 - the much-hyped return of rickety sci-f
March 4, 2005, 12:45 a.m. CST
FUCKING IDIOTS!!! AAAAAAAAAAAARRRRGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!! Lacking?? Oh and Larva had depth? Or maybe Big Ass Snake Vs. Even Faker Looking Big Ass Snake had more depth. I hate these pricks, HATE them. And Braveheart was SO filled with Science Fiction wasn't it? GAH! (slams head into desk repeatedly) Now I have to pay for someone in the UK to get this for me. Thanks Sci-Fi you shit headed pricks, thank you from my soul.
March 4, 2005, 1:02 a.m. CST
by Logo Lou
I wonder how a a "castoffs channel" would do? Filled with new episodes of quality programs other networks don't like. It'd show Arrested Development, The Tick, Firefly, Murder One, etc etc...
March 4, 2005, 1:40 a.m. CST
by Hairy Nutsack
Come on people, the network that is about to bring us their new sci-fi classic "Mansquito" wouldn't pass on an even halfway good show except for one simple reason, MONEY. Obviously it was going to cost them way too much to bring the new Dr. Who overseas, there is no other explanation. This was just some lame excuse hiding the fact that Sci-Fi is a bunch of cheap bastards. So instead of Dr. Who we'll get more Dean Cain in Ripley's Believe It Or Not and some other giant ass snake movie, dear god help us. For the record, Stargate is a great comicbook show and I'd watch more of it, and with Ben Browder, Beau Bridges, and Lou Gossett Jr. joining the cast it is only going to get better, then Mitch Pillegi(sp?) joining the cast of Atlantis? Hell yeah I'll be watching more Stargate. R.I.P. Richard Dean Anderson, I'll miss you.
March 4, 2005, 1:47 a.m. CST
by Wyrdy the Gerbil
Their filming all over Cardiff at the moment,some of my friends got invited on to the set the other day and had a great time (unfortunately i could`nt persuade them to take a camera with them)
March 4, 2005, 1:49 a.m. CST
by Commando Cody
What would be the harm in doing a trial run? Isn't the whole POINT of having a "Sci-Fi Channel" to showcase GENRE SPECIFIC shows that cater to the sci-fi crowd? You know, shows LIKE a new and improved and bigger budgeted Dr. Who? But no, instead these programming lunkheads think more original movies like fucking MANSQUITO is what the fans want. Sadly, the success of GALACTICA has these goons thinking they know what's good, they know what we want to watch, when the truth is they have taste in their feet. Worse, their programming blocks are such utter shit and whoever schedules them should be tarred and fucking feathered. Who the fuck wants to watch 7 hours in a row of 30-year old, 1970's episodes of IN SEARCH OF? What, you think just because Leonard Nimoy narrated them THAT makes them sci-fi oriented? Raise your hands -- who wants to watch that as opposed to a new Who? Yeah, I thought so. Sci-Fi channel execs and programmers, what utter wastes of space...
March 4, 2005, 2:18 a.m. CST
Probably Money (and merchandising issues maybe).Doesn't matter,as a License fee payer(like a serf from medievil days,or like that tea hassle the U.S. had with us way back when)I say Americans and other people of the world download it if you want as it's not commercial money so don't worry about it,feel free to do a Robin Hood.Anyone for a jelly baby http://members.aol.com/hehehedc/twofingers.JPG
March 4, 2005, 3:10 a.m. CST
Oh yeah...class act all the way. What about the Chupacabra movie they did like right after the literal crapfest that was Larva? CLASS. Proper, that Baker pic made me hurt myself laughing.
March 4, 2005, 3:17 a.m. CST
Parker Lewis Vs The Mansquito?? I might actually watch it now just so I can laugh my ass off. When did Corin Nemec get old? http://www.scifi.com/mansquito/
March 4, 2005, 4:18 a.m. CST
I get a British version of SciFi channel on cable here in the UK. Lately it has been showing soft porn after 11:00pm with naff sci-fi themes, i.e. Emanuel in Space or some crap about a time traveller who goes in search of women to repopulate his species with sexy results etc, etc. Sometimes there isn't even a sci-fi connection. I wouldn't mind if it was even good porn but it isn't. If they are getting this desperate in the UK for viewers then they must be in trouble here.
March 4, 2005, 5:33 a.m. CST
When I first saw the commercial for this, I laughed so hard that milk shot out my nose! And I hadn't had any milk since breakfast! I can only imagine Harry's reaction. "MAN-IN-SUIT!! MAN-IN-SUIT!! MAN-IN-SUIT!! MAN-IN-SUIT!! MAN-IN-SUIT!! MAN-IN-FREAKING-CHEAP-ASS-"#$:@%!&*>$#"-RUBBER-SUIT-GAWDAMMITT!!! Good Lord!! Those Sci-Fi Channel Execs need to throttle back on that Absolut!!! "I see the liquor is strong with you, Obi-wan Kaboozey! Drinker!"
March 4, 2005, 6:18 a.m. CST
Please do that. Too bad about Sci-Fi Channel, it may have been a money thing since NBC Broadcasting came in 3rd or 4th in the 18-49 demo. for the month of February. Big bosses may not have let them buy it. Still sucks though.-----later-----m
March 4, 2005, 7:48 a.m. CST
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!!! As a Brit I take great offence at that utter utter utter bullshit. Q mag is the epitome of mainstream crap here in the UK and only bought by U2 fans scared about hitting their fourties. Fuck's sake, it had Britney Spear's as the cover story last year! Now if Uncut like it, I may give it a look. Q Magazine? - I fucking ask you!
March 4, 2005, 8:24 a.m. CST
...Maybe it's because DOCTOR WHO is too good for the SciFi Channel's crappy American tosh, i.e; QUANTUM LEAP, SWAMP THING, etc...
March 4, 2005, 8:27 a.m. CST
by Kid Z
... the new Doc Who didn't have enough bad-CGI giant snakes in it?
March 4, 2005, 9:03 a.m. CST
DOCTOR WHO would have been the perfect series to run between seasons of BATTLESTAR GALACTICA, but I suppose that made too much sense for the mentally-retarded douchebags ruining -- er, running the Sci Fi Channel. Yes, now we can look forward to such brilliant programming as PLATYPUS VS. GERBIL or ANACONDA: THE SERIES. Well, until we get to see that critically-acclaimed material, I suppose DOCTOR WHO fans here in the states will have to resort to internet downloads and bootleg DVDs unless BBC AMERICA picks up the series. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to write obscene things on Sci Fi's programming message board...
March 4, 2005, 9:23 a.m. CST
who the fuck are they trying to kid?? BBCAmerica better pick it up.
March 4, 2005, 9:33 a.m. CST
Is what the Sci-Fi channel would be called if there was a law mandating truth in advertising. Man, I can't believe I miss the good old days when the 40% Sci-Fi channel started the day with LOST IN SPACE, LAND OF THE GIANTS, and VOYAGE TO THE BOTTOM OF THE SEA. Hell, they even occasionally threw in episodes of the TIME TUNNEL. Will the 40% Sci-Fi Channel ever realize that their "original" (I use the term loosely) movies SUCK SUCK SUCK!!? Like others have posted, the 40% Sci-Fi Channel programmers wouldn't recognize true science-fiction if Larry Niven bit them on the ass! I want to see new shows like Doctor Who, not another "StarGate Vancouver".
March 4, 2005, 11:15 a.m. CST
It is by the (former?, possibly) editor of Heat magazine. If that doesn't tell the Brits about his journalistic integrity nothing will.
March 4, 2005, 11:38 a.m. CST
I agree COMPLETELY with count jerkula. I've managed to avoid SF almost entirely since the cancellation of Farscape, and BG isn't appealing enough to get me back. I simply wanted to add that fantastic John Edwards show to the list of "Science Fiction" that they've featured. Talk about misjudging your audience! Maybe it drew viewers, but they certainly weren't the same ones who watch science fiction. And how about that Punk'd ripoff show? What a waste. Someone should sue to prohibit them from using SciFi in their name.
March 4, 2005, 11:47 a.m. CST
March 4, 2005, 12:02 p.m. CST
I just checked the CBC tv Canada website, and the first date they have listed for Doctor Who is on Tuesday April 5th (8pm Eastern), continuing at that date/time throughout April. So if you can't download it, watch it on CBC!!!
March 4, 2005, 12:24 p.m. CST
And that gang are being squeezed by the new batch of execs who put on Farscape:Peacekeeper Wars because they were mid-level execs at NBC 10 years ago when the Henson Comp. did "Gulliver's Travels." Hammer and her gang are idiots. Please NBC-Universal just buy out their contracts.-----later-----m
March 4, 2005, 12:35 p.m. CST
The Sci Fi Execs in question are idiots, granted. But you have to blame the whole motter-trokkin' bunch, starting with their parent company NBC and work your way down. The USA network has enough programs scheduled that I watch them on a fairly regular basis. NBC itself, though, doesn't have a thing that I can honestly say I watch on a regular basis. As memtioned in some of the above entries, it's got to be a money issue, because if I'm already glued to my TV at eight o'clock for Enterprise, then over to Sci Fi for the three hours of the last decent Sci Fi on television, I'll schedule my time to watch Doctor Who. NBC is known for its poor judgement calls, and here it is again. And the victims of it will be us, and those whom the RIAA and the MPAA persecute because we go to the 'web and download the episodes.
March 4, 2005, 12:39 p.m. CST
That would make it rubbish then....
March 4, 2005, 1:04 p.m. CST
that's where they showed DW here in Chicago.
March 4, 2005, 1:20 p.m. CST
by Mockingbird Girl
No doubt they want to keep that hour free in their schedule for ANACONDA IV. Aaaarrrrghhh, I hate those fucking bastards!!!
March 4, 2005, 3:09 p.m. CST
...They don't think like normal folks. Stargate has jumped the shark quite spectacularly. Atlantis is so-so. BSG kicks ass and evertying else they do is CRAP. Their "exclusive" "movies"? CRAP. Direct to video SHIT, unless it's a killer import from the UK like Ultraviolet.
March 4, 2005, 5:42 p.m. CST
Besides as a negotiation treatment, keep in mind SciFi Channel's response might be a polite way of saying what they really think about the BBC, which inevitably cranked up its prices on Doctor Who in syndication over the years. Back when it was popular in the U.S. with the Tom Baker episodes, they realized a good thing and started putting in the screws and cranking up the price on all the stuff, and insisting folks buy all the episodes. That's great, but you couldn't hand out the black & white episodes, and the later Colin Baker and Sylvester McCoy ones weren't drawing in the ratings in American repeats either. And of course, as stations started dropping it, the BBC cranked up the price even more to make up the difference on the stations that still carried it. That more then anything is why there's only...3? 5? stations still carrying DW in the U.S. You can bet BBC probably wants an arm and a leg from SFC to air the new series, as well as (as noted above) probably a package deal to air the other stuff as well.
March 4, 2005, 6:53 p.m. CST
by Real Deal
Stargate and BSG ( which are making lots of money for SciFi and are both good shows ) try looking at the source. The progaramming morons SciFi almost passed on BSG ( possibly the best SF show to come along in 25 years ) because of money.
March 4, 2005, 7 p.m. CST
Oh yeah, it's on my cable up here in Seattle, so I'm good to go with the Doctor Who. Oh yeah. Fuck SciFi. They are probably the idiots that insisted that the title music for the new BSG need to be changed from the SkyOne version (which was a lot better than the music SciFi is using).
March 4, 2005, 7:18 p.m. CST
And these geniuses are working on a "Ringworld" miniseries... so I guess we're gonna find out (the hard way, as usual) just how literally true that statement is. Place your bets now, folks... will they do Speaker-to-Animals with: A) laughable, fourth-rate C.G.I., or B) Ron Perlman in a ratty red fur suit? Oh, and just to stay on topic: the BBC, NBC, and everyone haggling over money can KISS MY LEFT ASS CHEEK. Here's what you're to do, nitwits: put the new "Who" on in America, and get the classic in-color Pertwee and Baker era into rotation immediately. GIVING THE PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT causes RATINGS, and ratings cause PROFITS. Surely that's an equation even these jackasses can understand?
March 4, 2005, 10:26 p.m. CST
Retitle the series "Law & Order: Special Interdimensional Travel Unit" and Sci-Fi/NBC will slobber all over it.
March 4, 2005, 10:56 p.m. CST
the channel that brought us such trainwrecks as "legend of earthsea" (a complete misuse of material) and "6ix days to midnite" etc etc calls this "lacking"?? oy...
March 4, 2005, 10:56 p.m. CST
the channel that brought us such trainwrecks as "legend of earthsea" (a complete misuse of material) and "6ix days to midnite" etc etc calls this "lacking"?? oy...
March 5, 2005, 2:56 a.m. CST
Darkhorizons just posted that Stuart Townsend is going to be Kolchak. WTF??????? I'm going to kill myself now.
March 5, 2005, 9:09 a.m. CST
Townsend could do a Kolchak. It'd be a British Kolchak - a down-and-out English reporter which even the Fleet Street tabloids won't touch - drunk, dissolute, kind of Peter Fallow from Bonfires of the Vanity (played by an Englishman this time). It wouldn't be "pure" Kolchak" but the same general theme, and remakes that are too pure are accused of ripping the source material off. SciFi Movies - keep in mind with the SciFi movies like "Mansquito" or whatever the heck it's called is that...well, they make money. SciFi owns them, they can repeat them pretty cheaply, they can sell them direct to video, and it probably makes them a ton of movie in overseas sales. Plus, the things make money for SciFi because people, somewhere, for some reason, _watch_ the damn things.
March 5, 2005, 9:57 a.m. CST
so i aint suprised. so long as the good doctor is shown the bbc america i'll be happy.
March 5, 2005, 2:49 p.m. CST
I could handle that if it were the case. But I get the sick feeling they are trying to sex this up and make it some sort of pretty boy deal. I hope not...I like Townsend, and maybe he'll surprise me. If he can stretch out from the Lestat shadow that Queen and LXG's Dorian has put him under, yay. But I remember how ABC treats their genre shows, even when they are good. Like Miracles, which was awesome. I've been burned too many times. As for the people who watch the Sci-Fi pictures, where are they so we can fix them to keep them from breeding.
March 5, 2005, 3:11 p.m. CST
by Hairy Nutsack
Stargate has way too many viewers worldwide and has sold way to many DVDs for anyone to just dismiss it and call it "drek." There's even enough interest that they created a new show based on the concept that is also doing extremley well in the ratings. Farscape fans need to get over themselves already, hell I'm still pissed Fox cancelled Space: Above and Beyond but I'm not going to bash someone else's favorite shows because of it. Also, could we please stop pretending Farscape was so much more intelligent sci-fi than anything else that has ever been on TV? It was good, it wasn't the Second Coming.
March 5, 2005, 3:22 p.m. CST
by Real Deal
God you guys are something else! So one show gets slighted and you guys decide to try and pick apart what is clearly a really good show. And yes the Farscape crowd needs to get over themselves. Instead of bashing another good SF show you should be showing support. I also think The SciFi channel is very short sighted at times. That's no reason complain about a good show ( be it Stargate or any other that has clearly hit the mark ). That won't bring back Farscape. That won't bring Doctor Who to american television. All it will do is convince TV execs that SF fans don't know what they want or what they're talking about. This in turn will undermine the chances of future SF shows. Please do grow up and see this! We need to support any SF show that has good qualities. Clearly after 8 years Stargate has shown this. Unless of course you guys do like the prospect of a wastland full of reality shows. Get it?
March 5, 2005, 4:50 p.m. CST
Well, it's a very...odd project for Townsend. He hasn't done a lot of U.S. work, and no TV work. I'm trying to get hold of his agent to do a Kolchak-related interview (as I run a fairly popular core site), but one gets the impression it's a project he's personally interested in. Why the heck else would he relocate to America, go for the potential 22-episode-a-season grind, etc. And he's 33 now - he's getting a little old for "pretty boy" roles. And I've talked with Spotnitz, who seems pretty self-assured and a fan of the original. So I still retain high hopes on the Townsend casting. _I_ could make it work, but Spotnitz...eh, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for now.
March 5, 2005, 6:27 p.m. CST
is one of the reasons I've got hope for the show. Also, I think Charlize has something to do with him moving to America. That also goes along with him wanting steady work. He's a good actor (I thought he did a better Lestat than Cruise for sure.) I'm just protective of my Nightstalker. But Spotnitz is a good writer and I know he's a fan of the old school version. I'll keep my fingers crossed and hope for the best. I'd love to hear what he thinks about the show so good luck with the interview.
March 5, 2005, 7:23 p.m. CST
It's a well known fact that Hercules hates Doctor Who with a passion. He's made no secret of it in the past. He saw a couple of the crap McCoy stories and ignorantly has put a blanket of hate on the entire 26 years series and the new one. Maybe he thinks the new series of Who will someone threaten B.S.G. which is a load of B.S. Maybe it's because he's just an ass. Why else would he report about the twits at the sci-fi channel who bankroll shit like Manquisto finding Doctor Who lacking in rampant stupidity, mindless action and pathetic storytelling and not give any attention to the glowing 4 star report that Q Magazine made?
March 5, 2005, 7:38 p.m. CST
If ya know where to look.
March 5, 2005, 10:06 p.m. CST
I am suprised, also, at this move by NBC/Universal. It seems rather shortsighted, but then agian someone is watching those crappy Saturday night movies, as they are getting some fair ratings. I do believe we should support science fiction on TV, but I also believe it should be pointed out what is bad. Stargate and its spin-off is designed for absentee viewer, which means its plot driven, with a beginning, a middle and an end. That way, some can miss it from week to week, and not get lost. This corrupts the idea that we should support it because its science fiction. These type of programs, while fine in many terms, also destroys other, better shows because they are plot driven only. BSG is a more character driven show, which like Farscape, made it a better show to "support" than Sci Fi's movies or Stargate franchise. The irony here is that from all published reports, this new Doctor Who will still be character driven (as it was with the classic series), but with a higher budget for sets and effects. NBC/Universal seems to think that because it is this way, it will have limited appeal (which is why it took so long to get the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy made, as Disney balked at the original $90 million budget, saying the book and Tv series was a "cult" show. I still don't think Disney thinks it will make back its now reported $65 million budget). As fans of science fiction, we do need to support it, but we also must be cautious. Drek such as Sci Fi Pictures Saturday Night films is good for some, but it also damages potential shows Like Wonderfalls, Miracles and Firefly. Stargate: SG1 and Stargate: Atlantis and its deus ex machina is good for some, but it seems to have put the nail in the coffin for the new Doctor Who.
March 5, 2005, 11:05 p.m. CST
Having just seen "Rose", I can say I can see where Sci-Fi is coming from. The ep is enjoyable to a Who fan, but it's also fairly deeply flawed. I can see where it would be kind of a hard sell... and it would really be of limited appeal. There are some things that need to be addressed about the show before I think an American network would really think to carry it. First, the Music... it's awful. It's loud, obnoxious, and totally incongrous to what's on screen. At times, the mix is so bad the Dialogue is completely drowned out, making it hard to follow. The effects are OK, and fairly minimal... so their not really that much of a problem, but they really don't do much to sell the show. There are some things to like about it. Eccleston's Doctor is very likable, even when he's calling us "Stupid Apes." Rose has potential, but the ep is so rushed we can't really claim to know her yet. It bears keeping an eye on, but I see where an American network might balk at putting down solid green on this.
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