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Published at:  Mar 02, 2005 4:12:17 PM CST

SPOILER ALERT !!


I am – Hercules!!



There’s this guy named “Quills” on something called TrekBBS. Maybe you guys can speak to his spoiler track record.



If “Quills” is right, thar be major spoilers below. Don’t highlight the inviso-text if you don’t wanna know:



Oh F*** it...Trip dies at the end and the episode is a holographic program on the holodeck of the Enterprise-D (yes..."D" as in how DUMB can you get!)which Riker and Troi are observing. The series itself is not a hologram program, but the likelihood of bringing it back after this bullshit is practically zero. You may now commense your saber rattling.



It's a holographic recreation. They could always write that it was a different scenario being played out, but the bottom line is...that this will be the final episode if this is the final season (which is pretty certain, regardless of the hard work done by saveenterprise and united trek). I would say that is a pretty shitty way to go out...especially for a Star Trek series.”














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  • Mar 02, 2005 4:26:24 PM CST

    Awesome

    by flaparoo

    I never watch this show but that sounds pretty funny

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  • Mar 02, 2005 4:31:34 PM CST

    It would be the greatest gift

    by skywise

    That Manny Coto could have given the fans actually...

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  • Mar 02, 2005 4:34:44 PM CST

    The best way for Enterprise to go out

    by kdoc13

    Kill em all, excpet Hoshi, she's cute.

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  • Mar 02, 2005 4:39:13 PM CST

    Just another example...

    by mbeemer

    ...of complete contempt for the audience.

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  • Mar 02, 2005 4:47:37 PM CST

    Spoilers

    by clonesaga4life

    Archer has a beer and cheats on his wife. First! Bababooey!

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  • Mar 02, 2005 4:55:15 PM CST

    Like Bob Newhart?

    by abelman007

    That's what it reminds me of.

    Every series finally ever should end with all the main characters blowing up. ALL SERIES!

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  • Mar 02, 2005 4:56:44 PM CST

    Ending

    by ciardi

    Bob Newhart bolts awake and life-partner William Shatner comforts him,"It was all just a dream."

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  • Mar 02, 2005 4:58:22 PM CST

    Cosmic Reset

    by don lockwood

    I always expected something to do with the Temporal Cold War where they hit the giant Cosmic Reset button and none of Enterprise happened. Some story about how they have to destroy their own timeline in order for the universe to blah blah blah and then you see a bunch of frames from previous episodes all zooming by, swirling into a big boom and then you see Robert April (is he still canon?) or Captain Pike stepping onto the old school Enterprise....

    Either that or I hoped beyond hope for some kind of major war to start and bury the new tech so that everybody had to start over and that's why the tech in the original series seemed so behind compared to what showed in "the past" with Enterprise.

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  • Mar 02, 2005 4:58:46 PM CST

    Quills is legit

    by chrth

    Where's the announcement re: the $3 million, Herc?

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  • Mar 02, 2005 5:06:23 PM CST

    If it turns out that Riker and Troi...

    by childe roland

    ...were watching a holographic simulation for the whole series, that would be the second best way for the show to end. I still like my proposed ending where Riker travels back in time for some reason (pick a reason... it's Trek) and ends up on the old Enterprise, trying to warn Archer and crew about a dastardly plot by the Romulans to weaken the Federation by setting it at war with the Klingons. And it all starts with the destruction of Enterprise by a misinformed Klingon commander. But the Enterprise crew doesn't believe him (especially when he talks about the Klingons being part of the Federation in the future) and they think he might be a genetically modified Klingon spy. Finally, T'Pol offfers to mind meld with him to see if he's telling the truth. But as she's in his head poking around, Riker discovers she's a Romulan spy sent on a suicide mission to ensure the destruction of the ship and the blaming of the Klingons. Turns out she's been subtly manipulating the Enterprise crew into fuck-up after fuck-up for years, trying to set the pieces in place for this catastrophic event. And as the ship starts to blow up around them, Riker screams while T'Pol laughs a very emotional and indulgent laugh. Then Riker wakes up in bed next to Troi and tells her about the dream. But all she wants him to do is: "Tell me more about this sexy Vulcan woman." And it doesn't even have to be a Newhart ripoff "it's a dream" ending. Q could show up after Riker gets back to sleep and tell him: "I don't know what's more alarming, that you utilized a portion of the Q powers I gave you and then stripped away to unconsciously travel back in time and change history or that it almost worked." I'd forgive the whole series if we got an ending like this.

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  • Mar 02, 2005 5:10:24 PM CST

    Oh crap. Please let this be true just so I can laugh my ass off

    by mynamedoesn'tfit

    Unbelievable.

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  • Mar 02, 2005 5:47:28 PM CST

    The final FU to the fans

    by kraken

    Sure, why not. I only watched a few episodes of this series... it was not bad. I'm just not a fan of prequel anything to be honest. It feels like reading the end of a book, then going back to read the begining. Just can't be as interesting, at least to me. But even so... this show was not total crap, and the fans of it deserve a better ending than the good ole' "none of it was real" bullshit. Maybe this was a filmed ending that won't be used (like they did on Friends) to keep the actors from spoiling the last episode. One can only hope.

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  • HAHAHAHAHAA -- Rick Berman has chuhtzpah!

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  • Mar 02, 2005 5:53:34 PM CST

    Wow

    by lonesomerhodes

    After reading that lame ending, it makes me glad I'm not a Enterprise fan.

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  • Mar 02, 2005 5:57:26 PM CST

    Yep its true

    by falcon5768

    And even the fans of the show are ready to burn B&B at the stake.

    I personally think its a ruse, production members post on the BBS and I think they are doing their best to hide the real ending.

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  • Mar 02, 2005 6:27:09 PM CST

    I knew it!!!

    by purgatori

    I knew it would be some stupid shite like this. Trek series enders have been steadily going down hill since the awesome ending of Next Gen. I'm still torn at which sucked worse, DS9's or Voyager..but I think it would have to be DS9's. This might tie since this entire series has sucked balls (except for the arc with the Andorians. They actually did a good job for once) But it's too little too late. And if they think this is some kind of homage to the fans, that shows just how stupid the morons that have ran this show really are. Acting like we are idiots and will clap like seals at a token appearance by the better shows cast tied with a dumbass copout is fucking stupid.

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  • Mar 02, 2005 6:37:23 PM CST

    Even in its death throes, it gets no dignity ?

    by robinp

    Sad....I wasn't particularly a fan, but I watched the first 2 seasons in hopes of improvement. The final episode being a holodeck recreation is really pissing on the grave isn't it ? It wouldn't surprise me at all if the whole series were to be explained thus. Suddenly, the unseemly haste of Angel's departure with the Butch Cassidy ending doesn't seem so bad any more. To the fans of Enterprise - I feel your pain.

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  • Mar 02, 2005 6:38:47 PM CST

    Ensign Kirk

    by immortal-1

    They should have Archer move into an office job at Starfleet and end the show with a new Captain and crew taking over including a young Ensign Kirk.

    This was by far the best season, if they had started with this season they would have had an excellent jumping off point. This season provided backstory for what was the foundation of Trek. In previous seasons. they tried to create their own legacy-that's not a prequel. They did it backwards.

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  • Mar 02, 2005 6:43:02 PM CST

    The last words spoken on enterprise should be...

    by zer0cool2k2

    ...Denny Crane

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  • Mar 02, 2005 6:52:09 PM CST

    So where was Monday's big Trek announcement?

    by col. klink

    Wednesday and still waiting. Another rumor bites the dust.

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  • Mar 02, 2005 6:56:15 PM CST

    Or how about these for last words...

    by jeffv

    IMHO, the last words spoken should be "computer, end program" and then the screen goes black. :-)

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  • Mar 02, 2005 6:57:56 PM CST

    Monday's announcement

    by jeffv

    AFAIK, it was this: http://www2.cinescape.com/0/editorial.asp?aff_id=0&this_cat=Movies&action=page&type_id=&cat_id=270338&obj_id=43618

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  • Mar 02, 2005 7:01:02 PM CST

    is 'trip' the captain?

    by punto

    otherwise, why couldn't they go on after this? just put someone else on his post.. Or give it to the 'red shirt' of the week.. that way they'll address the complaints that these 'red shirt' guys are never important enough; they'll be on 'trip's position!! (don't get my ignorance the wrong way.. I don't watch enterprise, but I haven't seen any of the other trek series either)

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  • Mar 02, 2005 7:04:59 PM CST

    How Enterprise should end

    by mastershake

    Admiral Archer, now a very old man, attends the christening of Enterprise NCC-1701. His last words are "Now that's a Starship".

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  • Mar 02, 2005 7:23:40 PM CST

    "Wil, I'm sick of you making me watch all these bullshit holopro

    by theginger twit

  • Mar 02, 2005 7:29:04 PM CST

    The Big Announcement

    by mastershake

    They announced Star Trek XI is in developement. IMDB had this info:
    In this prequel to James T. Kirk's era, but set after the era of "Enterprise", the Romulans are close to beginning a war with Earth.
    Berman is involved, so it should be more of the same crap.

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  • Mar 02, 2005 7:33:58 PM CST

    Quills is legit, and it was Berman/Braga, not Manny Coto

    by nephandusny

    Quills has had good track record with the spoilerish info on TrekBBS.

    BTW - this was not a Manny Coto story. According to Quills, he had *nothing* to do with this.

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  • Mar 02, 2005 8:18:18 PM CST

    Enterprise should end with it being revealed as a "Quantum Leap"

    by iamjacksuserid

    Or Danny Glover, portraying the Star Trek Franchise, could step out and say, "I'm too old for this shit!"

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  • Mar 02, 2005 9:39:16 PM CST

    HAH! THEY TOOK MY IDEA! Sorta.

    by noriko takaya

    As I said in this post (http://www.aintitcool.com/tb_display.cgi?id=19403#845342), I think it should all end on the holodeck of the NCC-1701-F where Archer is the Captain and he and Riker have been reviewing T'Pol's messed-up holosimulation of the early days of Starfleet. Hey, there was nothing wrong with the *actors,* so provided that there *is* a new Trek series coming *and* Manny Coto (or JMS) in in charge *and* it is set after Next Gen/DS9/Voyager instead of in the past, why not use them in the next incarnation? Either way, removing Enterprise from Trek cannon is a good thing, IMOHO. Toppu o Nerae!

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  • Mar 02, 2005 10:16:20 PM CST

    Ya' know, with all the continuity problems that Enterprise has (

    by l.h.puttgrass

    ...I have always thought that the best final EP would be some sort of "cosmic reset" plot. Maybe something to do with the temporal cold war or some other "trek" plot device that cleans the slate or hits the reset button on the universe. There have been many trek EPs where the crew is stuck in a time loop or what ever. Everything keeps happening over and over like Groundhog Day until they figure out how to break the loop. Once they break out of it, maybe they remember or maybe they don't remember and act like nothing happened. It would be funny as hell if they use the "It was just a TV show" scenario. People have been arguing about the "Enterprise" plot problems since the show began. Ending it like this would be just like Shatner on that SNL skit telling the fans to "Get a life!" The only question that remains is this. Is this rumor true and Does Paramount have balls of this size?

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  • Mar 02, 2005 10:27:00 PM CST

    It just goes to show that Berman and Braga know they fucked up,

    by theginger twit

    Just remember that Star trek has always been remembered... and this will be the memory of when star trek got so bad they had to make it 'all a dream' conclusion. Git the fuck outta here!

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  • Mar 02, 2005 10:32:06 PM CST

    I REFUSE TO BELIEVE IT! Why?

    by warp11

    Ok, just the fact that they would go back to the Enterprise-D makes that rumor ending false. Why would Paramount want to kill a show and anger so many fans with such an ending. Remember these people want to make money, not make people angry. Well at least Warp 11's new album "Boldly Go Down On ME" comes out in 10 days! Here the new hit "She Make It So" that is getting a lot of radio play: http://www.warp11.com/MP3/Warp11_She_Make_It_So_clip.mp3
    and also here is their interview from Gen Con on Tech TV: http://s28.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=08DFJQTX4N0GH0KXI0DTCF02DL
    Warp 11 will save Star Trek!

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  • Mar 02, 2005 10:34:00 PM CST

    This rumour is a bunch of bullshit

    by grandocariissian

    Why go to all the trouble of explaining why TOS Klingons looked different if you're just going to erase it all in the end anyway? This rumour is total BS. I know this because I just so happen to know what REALLY happens in the last episode. !SPOILERS! ...
    T'Pol goes to see Phlox because she's been puking alot. Phlox does some tests and finds out she's pregnant with twins by Trip. T'Pol demands Phlox not tell anyone, and Phlox promises to keep it a secret, but as soon as she leaves, Phlox runs to the computer to send someone a message.
    Meanwhile, Trip has been briefing the new captain of the NX-02 Columbia in preparation for leaving spacedock. It turns out Starfleet caught on to Archer and that chick captain. When Starfleet found out they were doing a bit more than just rock-climbing together, they went looking for a new captain of the NX-02, and found one called... GRANDO SULU! There's a whole subplot set in motion when Grando's son, Hikaru, "borrows" the NX-02 to go to a party on some planet. Trip and Sulu are partying it up on Columbia's bridge when a message comes in. It's Phlox, and he tells them T'Pol's got a couple of buns in the oven... but he tells them that Archer is the father! Trip flies into a rage when he thinks Archer's been tapping his sweet Vulcan piece of ass while he was gone, so he jumps on a shuttlecraft and heads off for Enterprise.
    Back on Enterprise, Phlox cackles to himself, pulls a dark hood over his head, activates a holographic device, and appears as a fuzzed-out shape on the bridge of a Suliban ship, where he declares that their plan has finally been set in motion. Phlox is Future-Man! He planted himself on Enterprise to destroy the Federation before it ever forms, so that in the future the Denobulans, who are actually a vicious, war-like, yet extremely horny race, can colonize earth and make babies with all the earth women.
    Trip makes it to Enterprise, and tracks Archer down to the engine room. "How dare you knock up T'Pol! That pussy is MINE!" he screams and attacks Archer. They fight for several minutes before Archer gains an edge and sends Trip flying into a warp field conduit, which shatters and douses Trip with molten plasma, burning him over 90% of his body but not killing him. Archer is about to put Trip down when a black beam of energy shoots past his head, barely missing him and disintegrating the computer panel behind Archer's head. He turns to see Phlox, wielding a black phaser! Archer ducks and dodges Phlox's blasts, but he's nearing exhaustion, when suddenly a transporter beam flashes and in comes Shran. Phlox turns his phaser on Shran, who effortlessly dodges Phlox's attacks by rolling and jumping at the speed of light. "Your hatred makes you weaker, Denobulan WITCH!" yells Shran, and then he ignites himself, blinding Phlox and burning his skin. Phlox activates a remote transporter, beaming himself and Trip's melted body aboard the Suliban ship, which then speeds away.
    Phlox takes Trip to the Suliban sickbay and works on him for hours. Finally Phlox steps back from the table. "Seven of Eleven," he says. "Yes, Master?" Trip's voice sounds deeper and more mechanical. "Rise," Phlox cackles ominously. Slowly the gray slab Trip lays on turns upright, until we see him in a black vinyl suit with machinery covering his entire body and face... Trip is now a Borg!
    Phlox leads Trip to another room, where we see Trip transported 1000 years into the past, to a planet in the Delta Quadrant. A bunch of cavemen run screaming with fear as the Trip-Borg materializes outside their cave. One of the cavemen starts hooting and banging his chest, and comes up to Trip to check him out. Trip-Borg shoots out a couple of tubes from his wrist and assimilates the caveman, thus creating the Borg Collective.
    Back on Enterprise, T'Pol admits to Archer she is pregnant with Trip's twin son and daughter. Fearing Trip could return and try to kill the twins thinking they're Archer's kids instead of his, Archer takes the twins back to Earth to be raised in hiding. He drops the boy off in Iowa with his good friend, Joseph Claudius Kirk. Kirk decides to name his adopted son James. The girl is then given to a very rich Swahili king who gives his new daughter a name which means "freedom" in his language.... Uhura (turns out Trip had some recessive African genes... who knew?) ... which kinda puts a new spin on the Kirk-Uhura kiss in Plato's Stepchildren. And you thought it was controversial when it was just the first interracial kiss on TV! The episode ends with Archer walking off into the Tunisian desert, where he will live the next several decades as a crazy hermit.

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  • Mar 02, 2005 10:44:39 PM CST

    YES!!

    by spears777

    I love this ending! Since I heard Star Trek was cancelled, I figured it might turn out to all just be a holodeck simulation. That's a cool way to end it....but why make it the Enterprise D and not the Enterprise E?

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  • Mar 02, 2005 11:02:14 PM CST

    Let it all be a dream...

    by holly_wight

    Let's have it end with B&B waking up in bed together, after having dreamt of a really lame revision of Roddenberry's Trek.

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  • Mar 02, 2005 11:05:48 PM CST

    So what was the big Monday Announcement? And how fitting Berman

    by commando cody

    I heard about the new movie in development, but Herc said in his teaser the Paramount announcement he was referring to WASN'T about the movie. So what's up? As for ending the show this way, FUCK YOU Berman and Braga. Manny Coto should have written the finale since he resurrected the show this year, so you can bet the ending would have rocked. I loved someone's suggestion here about an older Archer showing up at the christening of Kirk's enterprise. Maybe they could have done a DS9/Tribbles episode bit and digitally lifted a young Kirk to have him a scene walking by Archer or something. But how fitting the show should end this way IF this rumor is true. Berman and Braga launched the show and produced shit...Coto saved the show...so now Berman and Braga will step back in to make sure the show comes full circle and ends every bit as shitty as they began it.

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  • Mar 02, 2005 11:31:52 PM CST

    It'd bee cool if Troi was riding Riker while they watch in the h

    by nicholaswolfwood

    That's what they probably do anyway- have sex in the middle of the bridge while they watch Archer's adventures.

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  • Mar 02, 2005 11:48:38 PM CST

    Sounds Like.......

    by real deal

    Bullshit! This sounds like a ruse.

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  • Mar 02, 2005 11:48:43 PM CST

    I like this ending...

    by holly_wight

    I can only hope that Riker and Troi were watching a FICTIONAL drama in the holodeck, and that none of this terrible series ever happened.

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  • If they do it that way, they can bring Trek back with much of the same "Enterprise" concept but just do a better job of it.

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  • Mar 03, 2005 12:22:07 AM CST

    The REAL Ending

    by mrstinger

    The Enterprise slowly recedes into the starry void...then the camera pulls back to reveal that the Enterprise is actually a Hallmark ornament on a Christmas tree, being watched intently by an autistic boy. The boy's father walks into frame. It's William Shatner, who delivers the last line of the series, "Get a life, Rick. Get a life!" Fade to black.

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  • Mar 03, 2005 1:34:17 AM CST

    The Bobby Ewing/Dick Louden "It's only a dream" scenario...

    by cknightshift

    Archer and crew are caught up in some wild adventure when the action pauses and camera cuts to Deanna and Riker on the Holodeck. "Oh so all of this was just an illusion?" "Yes my dear," Riker tells Deanna with a lustful look in his eye. So Superkirk... I mean Riker goes to bed her down (like he needs an excuse anyway). That's when Enterprise-D comes under attack from a Borg ship and everyone gets called to battle stations. Riker is at the helm when a well-timed blast from the Borg hits the bridge, sends Data's head flying off his torso and smack into Riker's forehead! Everything slows down as Riker starts slumping in his chair... Okay it's now a darkened crewmember's quarters aboard a ship and a distinctly male figure raises his head up from the bed, the sound of a shower in the next room. He opens the door and there's Spock standing naked under the showerhead: "Good morning, Captain." "Spock, I thought you were dead! And then I thought that it was the 24th century and I was this future Starfleet officer who got all the chicks and their Enterprise had this holo-thingy that made it look like the 22nd century and... WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING IN MY SHOWER SPOCK?!" "I regret to inform you that Starfleet Corps of Engineers exercised considerable haste in refitting the Enterprise and had no time to test the plumbing. Two hundred people are lined up outside your door waiting to use the bathroom." That's it, end of "Enterprise" and end of the post-TOS continuity. "The Next Generation" and "Deep Space Nine" and "Voyager" never happened. At all. Got it? They were all a dream that Kirk had while hung over on Romulan Ale. The boards are now cleared for Joe Straczynski to resurrect Treck as Paramount's prize cash cow.

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  • Mar 03, 2005 2:43:46 AM CST

    I actually feel bad for Bakula and crew...

    by big dumb ape

    I thought ENTERPRISE had a lot of potential, and this year under Manny Coto the show has been great. I mean I've genuinely enjoyed it, and I'd have to think that behind the scenes cast and crew recognized they were working on a vastly improved show, too. So they probably kept their fingers crossed that the newfound word of mouth would translate into better ratings OR at least UPN renewing them, but those hopes were dashed. But now -- like salt in the wound -- even when they might have turned to each other and said "Well, at least now we'll go out on a high night of better quality" along comes Berman and Braga to shit on that notion, TOO. So I feel bad for Bakula and cast and crew because this year in particular they set out to improve the show, they succeeded at that, and right at the end B&B have to step in and remind everyone what utterly clueless, fucked up, talentless hacks they are. Ideally, the poetic payback here is hopefully TREK will get reincarnated in a better form -- and meanwhile both Berman and Braga will be choking to death on all the comparisons and acclaim Ron Moore, who they pushed aside, is now getting from BATTLESTAR.

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  • Mar 03, 2005 2:45:46 AM CST

    Wait -- I take back what I said. I feel bad for Bakula and crew

    by big dumb ape

    ...simply because I saw the announcement that Paramount has a new Trek movie in development BUT Berman is still listed as executive producer and will have his hand in (yet again) shitting up the place. Which begs the question "Why even bother, Paramount? Haven't you learned ANYTHING from the Enterprise experience?"

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  • Mar 03, 2005 3:07:00 AM CST

    So, you all believe this? That's disturbing...

    by scrumdiddly

  • Mar 03, 2005 3:07:05 AM CST

    I don;t see the big deal...

    by sg7

    ...so chubby and "I feel anger" are viewing a bit of historical drama on the holo deck. Hell there was an entire episode of B5 viewed via historical records in the distant future. You people are a bunch of whining pussies.

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  • Mar 03, 2005 3:08:05 AM CST

    And after the holodeck on Enterprise D turns off...

    by heckles

    We see Bashir and O'Brien on Deep Space Nine watching Riker & Troi watch Archer and co. Then we see a close up of Rick Berman laughing with bags and bags of money.

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  • Mar 03, 2005 3:34:28 AM CST

    You people need to satop freakin out and use your brains

    by digger27

    Why is everyone so dense? Don't you people realize that maybe the whole series was not a simulation. But that maybe everything they are watching actually happened and that they are just rewatching it in a holodeck?

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  • Mar 03, 2005 4:53:23 AM CST

    "I woke up..."

    by dhigger

    "...and it was all a dream"

    Original ending.

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  • Mar 03, 2005 7:44:33 AM CST

    If you're gonna use the holodeck, screw Riker/Troi and go with t

    by triumph poops!

    A couple people have mentioned it and it would be the far coolest thing, and actually appropriate bridging Archer to the Original Trilogy. If you're going to use the Holodeck, fine, have your 2 hour finale and some people live, some die, big epic story. Final minutes is Archer turning off the Holodeck from having viewed the "final voyage" of his ship and we now see Bakula's OLD...and then someone says "Sorry, sir, I didn't know you were still in here" or some such sound bite you cobble together or line you extract from the original show delivered by Shatner. At which point we see the person Archer's talking to is a YOUNG ENSIGN KIRK, now working at Starfleet (which you do by digitally taking Shatner's head from the Old Series and putting it on a new Red Shirt or something). Bakula then says "Just finishing up" and turns off the holodeck in an appropriate lights out for the show and walks off side by side with young Kirk. Tell me that wouldn't rock! Who wouldn't get a far larger hard on seeing YOUNG KIRK inserted over Riker/Troi?

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  • Mar 03, 2005 8:05:13 AM CST

    ending

    by scaryjim

    No No No , it's all wrong - what really happens is Al turns up and says ' damn it took ages for Ziggy to beam my hologram to you sam - all you have to do is do the beast with two backs with t'pol and have the first human/ vulcan baby that will seal the friendship with the vulcans !' Sam Beckett/ captain Archer does the deed , leaps out and the whole of enterprise is revealed as Quantum Leap series ..whatever . Then they can just make more episodes of Quantum Leap ta very much .

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  • Mar 03, 2005 9:07:47 AM CST

    Ever ST series...

    by gleebo

    ....should have and should from now on end with the final line being delivered by






    ..
    .
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    Armin Shimerman

    No second thought lets make him have the final line in EVERY series finale on television. Even if he was no where near the show during its run. The world needs 53% more Shimerman.

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  • Mar 03, 2005 9:56:54 AM CST

    You realise this is the work of an evil genius -

    by scrumdiddly

    all they need to do now is keep making more Enterprise clones with "it was all just a dream..." endings, until they get it right! lol

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  • Mar 03, 2005 10:33:03 AM CST

    Doesn't Riker have his own ship now?

    by rev_skarekroe

    If he doesn't, why not?

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  • Mar 03, 2005 11:24:59 AM CST

    question:

    by spice-orange

    For all you Star trek fans out there: Were you a fan of this show, or are you a fan of star trek in general?
    I'm not a fan of either, but i tried to like enterprise. its just not very good. lame stories about space politics and aliances just seems gay to me. i guess thats why i have always been more of a star wars guy, if anything.
    still, its sad to see it go, but then again, they could have had a better show to start with and we wouldnt have this problem. Star Trek is so old and busted nowadays. even stargate looks good in comparison, and i hate stargate!

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  • Mar 03, 2005 11:28:21 AM CST

    Enterprise-D? So Berman & Braga are going to screw up their OWN

    by prof. pop-cult

    Why not it be on board the Titan and have "Enterprise" be Riker's holo-novel? The idea above that Riker is FutureGuy and was just role-playing in this holo simulation is disconcerting, but it would explain a lot. I really hope this is a red herring to hide the real finale. Otherwise, Berman and Braga really are the proverbial abusive spouse.

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  • Mar 03, 2005 11:31:56 AM CST

    Some strong medicine, but take it anyway.

    by ingeld

    Only Star Trek fans would get upset over the realization that the series was not real, but an illusion. Umm. Folks. None of it is real. None. Not one bit from the first classic trek to this miserable excuse. None, nada, nichts, nothing. Kirk out.

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  • Mar 03, 2005 12:02:29 PM CST

    Oooh... I like that Quantum Leap idea, too.

    by childe roland

    And he wouldn't know why he was there for so long because his brain would be all swiss cheesed. Bring back QUantum Leap... that and Lord of Illusions were really the only things Bakula's ever done worth a crap (and Lord of Illusions is debatable... it also felt like an episode of Quantum Leap).

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  • Mar 03, 2005 1:07:42 PM CST

    Have they ever explained how their technology devolves into 1960

    by pizza the hut

    Since they're going so far as to explain the Klingon head thing, just checking. I don't get Enterpoop where I live.

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  • Mar 03, 2005 1:14:43 PM CST

    Actually, that isn't god awful...

    by craiggers

    I mean, it would make sense. Why wouldn't they use the holodeck to recreate the history of the first enterprise? And, you also can question the authenticity of what the whole show was about. Plus, it'd be neat for Captain Archer to realize that this whole time he was only a hologram, a facimile of the real man and all of his adventures were just echoes of the past. It doesn't totally eradicate the future of the series. The thing about tv writers, like comic book writers, is that they usually know how to write their way out of box. It's called flotsum; just like that, the holodeck season (or series) finale could actuall[y be a trick devised by the future people (I don'pt know who they are, I haven't followed that storyline at all) to fuck with Archer's mind. Or maybe it is a time space anomaly that occurred which made Archer's time coincide with Next Gen's time in the form of the holodeck. Trust me, if they end it this way, it's not the end of the universe. Don't get all pissy when writers show they have balls to fuck with your head; that shows gutsy writing and promising storylines in the future.

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  • Mar 03, 2005 1:39:43 PM CST

    I sincerely hope they go with this!

    by performingmonkey

    I know this isn't really a full-blown 'it was all a dream' ending, but it's the closest thing to it so they should freaking go for it. One thing though, how the fuck can it be on Enterprise D when it's fucking destroyed? Are they completely and utterly insane?? (the answer to that is YES as we all know). Wait a minute......they're going to try and make us believe that the Riker and Troy we're gonna see are from 10 years ago on the D? Where's the fucking reasoning? It's time the whole fucking Trek franchise was reset. It would do best if both Voyager AND Enterprise were completely erased from the timeline and from our memories. Delete every copy of all 7 seasons of Voyager and all 4 seasons of the 'prise (I think it would have got more viewers if it had been called 'The Prise'...). Murder anyone who has the Voyager DVDs, steal the copies and burn them in a big fire. Next, produce a new series of Quantam Leap so Bakula won't be pissed off that every episode of a show he's starred in for 4 years has just been wiped. Bring back Riker and Troi for an all new series set 10 years after Generations. In fact, bring back the entire TNG crew and make another 7 series of pure quality Next Generation action. You know and I know that it would be ten times more watchable than the Prise. Bring back Picard!!

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  • Mar 03, 2005 1:44:30 PM CST

    This has to be false

    by electric_monk

    While I know both Berman and Braga have ruined Star Trek, I can't believe they would stoop this low and piss off the few hardcore fans of Enterprise. The show has had problems -it should've been character driven instead of plot driven and a horrible Scott Bakula -but if this is true, it seems like a stupid idea. What would be the point of killing off a main character, and why on Enterprise D? While we know that both Frakes and Sirtis will be in the finale, if Berman and Braga do this -who have been giving the middle finger to 90% of Trek fans for the last 10 years - are they really going to risk going after the last group of people who have loyally supported this show? This makes no sense.

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  • I know I castigated some here in a previous post, but I have an idea for the final episode. If the powers that be want to be very creative with this idea of illusion they should somehow link it up with the pilot episode of the Cage. Make the person watching this illusion Captain Pike. It would serve as the perfect "bookend" for the Star Trek universe. The show ends where it began, and we never know what series, what characters were real.

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  • Mar 03, 2005 2:23:19 PM CST

    Well, the "It was all a dream" ending has worked every OTHER tim

    by kauzi sezso

    St. Elsewhere? Dallas? Do they really think that the audience is so stupid that we'll forget that this is a trite device that never works? BTW, the only reason it worked in Newhart was because they were making fun of how stupid a device it is. Out.

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  • Mar 03, 2005 2:33:26 PM CST

    I'm on a roll.

    by ingeld

    It ends like this: strafield fades to black. A nerdy teenager, says "end program" The screen goes blank. And the last words we hear are "Maybe, I should get a life."

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  • Mar 03, 2005 3:35:58 PM CST

    Ingeld: Change "nerdy teenager" to "nerdy 30something" and it wo

    by jim jam bongs

    Sorry, guys, but we know it's true. No teen watches Enterprise. And FutureGuy has to be Russell Watson dammit!

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  • Mar 03, 2005 3:41:23 PM CST

    Star Wars and Star Trek

    by williammunny

    I am always amazed that Star Wars and Star Trek fans are able to come up with better and more interesting ideas than the people who are running the franchises.

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  • Mar 03, 2005 4:17:00 PM CST

    Cause I got Faith!! of the heart!! I'm fucking off before this f

    by performingmonkey

    You know the big dollop's right.

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  • Mar 03, 2005 4:22:52 PM CST

    Enterprise D: Troi and Ryker switch off the Holdeck program.

    by cookylamoo

    Ryker: Wow, that was almost as dull as "Finding Neverland".

    Troi: So this is it, Will, the END of Star Trek?

    Ryker: Yes, Deanna, but even though Trek is doomed I'm putting our son Will-El into this small rocket. We shall send him back through a temporal rift. When he arrives, he will change his name to Gene Roddenberry and Trek will start anew.

    (Deanna takes phaser and blows up the rocket)

    Troi: Let's not and say we did.

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  • Mar 03, 2005 5:06:24 PM CST

    RE: Jim Jam Bongs

    by ingeld

    How right you are, sir. Can you imagine as the Trek demographic gets older, we'll have a "Golden Girls" version of Trek. What am I thinking? The last original cast movie was that! "Captain, Captain! The federation has been hailing us for the past ten hours. They say our left directional has been on since Antares 5.

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  • Mar 03, 2005 5:44:56 PM CST

    I think I would pay some Dutchman

    by stallion_cornell

    to set fire to things.

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  • Mar 03, 2005 7:45:48 PM CST

    I'm With Scrumdiddly On This......

    by real deal

    I didn't think I'd say this but I think he's right. I can't believe how many of you sound like you buy this. I think it's just some little fan boy playing a prank. Getting in one last jab before he can't anymore. He probably heard some details and went with his own interpretation of them. I do know one thing. Jeffrey Combs is in the finale as Shran which makes it sound good in my book.

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  • Mar 03, 2005 8:33:59 PM CST

    DONT COUNT YOUR CHICKENS YET!!! o_O

    by falcon5768

    Apparently Paramount called Trek United today, there is going to be a big announcement tomorrow from them about the future of Enterprise

    is it a uncancilation, no one knows but the contact at Trek United said it does have him giddy.

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  • Mar 03, 2005 9:33:49 PM CST

    "The world needs 53% more Shimerman."

    by voice o. reason

  • Mar 03, 2005 9:44:05 PM CST

    I don't buy it .... about a hundred fans already thought of this

    by hanfiredfirst

  • Mar 03, 2005 9:46:16 PM CST

    "Apparently Paramount called Trek United today, there is going t

    by commando cody

    Thanks for the update, Falcon, those of us who like the show will keep our fingers crossed for some good news. On the flip side, I'm STILL waiting for Herc to tell us what the supposed "big" Trek announcement from Paramount LAST week was going to be, since they announced the new movie being in development, but Herc said the announcement WASN'T about the movie or TV show. So what the hell was it?

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  • Mar 03, 2005 10:11:44 PM CST

    The last words spoken on the Enterprise bridge should be

    by mascan

    Your mom's box.

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  • Mar 03, 2005 10:37:21 PM CST

    The last words of the last episode.

    by ingeld

    "It's dead, Jim." Fade to black.

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  • Mar 04, 2005 2:58:05 PM CST

    sorry to break it to you all...

    by satansteve

    but its true. imdb has this posted up under william frakes:
    "Enterprise" playing "Captain William Riker" (episode # 4.22) 13 May 2005

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  • Mar 04, 2005 7:59:01 PM CST

    Don't Worry

    by mr_furious

    If the whole series was really a holographic simulation Riker and Toi would have stopped watching it out of boredom like I did years ago.

    www.theletterd.blogspot.com

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  • Mar 05, 2005 12:07:20 AM CST

    that scenario sounds to me that the finale will be berman and br

    by atomheartbrother

    because that indeed sounds like shit. just when i say last week that your Trek DVD collections would have perfect continuity i hear that the retards who damned trek with voyager and enterprise (two excellent concepts with excellent and fresh pilots that immediately settled into that "same old star trek" shit after getting me jazzed for possible new star trek) are going to pull this crap?!? this obvious creative lethargy is an absolute disgrace.

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  • Mar 05, 2005 6:56:22 PM CST

    demise of enterprise

    by silverstorm

    would it not be more effective to have riker step out of the shower and troi tell him she had a dream?

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